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Obama--The Black Man's Burden

1647 Wrote: Jul 16, 2012 12:12 PM
The only reason Romney spoke was to prove to his racist base that he was ok with that. Listen to those boos those people hate me, so you can trust me me now.
jimmylynn Wrote: Jul 16, 2012 2:36 PM
No....it was to show the black community that despite an expectation of rude behavior and the presumption that they would not open their minds to his message.....he was still willing to reach out to them in the hope that perhaps now or at some future date an ember might ignite, some small flame might appear. Only by addressing these black leaders is there any hope. Not doing so only feeds the liberal contention that conservatives are their enemies.
jimmylynn Wrote: Jul 16, 2012 2:42 PM
George Bush addressed them for the same reason. I think it's the right thing to do. If you are not willing to address them directly and discuss their issues with them, then that is a validation of the lies with which liberals indoctrinate African Americans. If one party wrote you off....wouldn't you feel you had no alternative but to support their opponents. Conservatives owe it to the country and to African Americans, regardless of their behavior to address black issues and give them an alternative. We may have low expectations in achieving converts, but we owe them a choice.
nhurston Wrote: Jul 16, 2012 2:47 PM
If he really wanted to hold out an olive branch, he would discuss health care reform plainly and honestly, not just state that he wants to repeal the ACA, which is hugely popular with the NAACP.
nhurston Wrote: Jul 16, 2012 2:52 PM
Romney also failed to mention reducing taxes for the rich and heaping more tax burden on the lower and middle classes.
ACinNC Wrote: Jul 16, 2012 4:21 PM
You have absolutely NO UNDERSTANDING of how economics works, and tax revenues to the govt.

Like I said: GROUPTHINK. Try reading some Thomas Sowell. You might learn something.
nhurston Wrote: Jul 16, 2012 4:49 PM
I have a much better understanding than you would think. I also can read the statistics showing greater concentration of wealth over the last few years in the top-1%. I understand that capital is not infinite and can be hoarded. I further understand that, despite policies that have allowed such hoarding, we still haven't see appreciable job growth. I understand that the argument for giving the rich even more money is undercut by those figures. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/23/americans-support-wealth-redistribution_n_736132.html
ACinNC Wrote: Jul 16, 2012 4:59 PM
Huffington Post.....You just lost me right there.

Still haven't seen appreciable job growth?.......LOL. WE WON'T see appreciable job growth until President Obama is voted out of office (along with nutballs like Nancy Pelosi) to change course away from his big govt, high taxation, anti-private sector and anti-business policies.

Again, go read some Thomas Sowell.
nhurston Wrote: Jul 16, 2012 5:20 PM
Sure, just keep that head in the sand, it seems to be working very well for you. But seriously, get outside your bubble and learn from all sources. Don't disregard a source based on ad hominem preconceived notions.

I really like how you refuse to actually address the point I made, and just go on to change the subject. I should be used to it from conservatives, but it never ceases to amaze me.

So you think that businesses will being spending all of their hoarded cash once Obama's gone. Seems rather un-Patriotic of them to not hire now, don't you think? Which taxes are too high, btw? How about we go back to Reagan's tax rates? http://www.politicususa.com/reagan-tax-rates.html
AlDavis2011 Wrote: Jul 16, 2012 2:19 PM
No doubt your brother nhurston will agree!
Snarkasterous1 Wrote: Jul 16, 2012 12:48 PM
Thanks for sharing with others the psychic reading you obtained.

You may now doff your tinfoil cap.

- Snark
nhurston Wrote: Jul 16, 2012 12:53 PM
Tinfoil is reserved for conspiracy theorists, like birthers and truthers. Get to know your meme's better. What 1647 wrote wasn't a conspiracy theory, rather it was a reasonable inference to make based on the context and results of the matter.
ACinNC Wrote: Jul 16, 2012 1:19 PM
No, it's an inference based on his BIAS. Looking for racism everywhere, and expecting to find racism everywhere.

Reasonable? On what "reasonable" basis does he 'know' that Romney is playing to his "racist base". My support for Romney has nothing to do with racism, and everthing to do with a completely different belief on how to deal with the economy, healthcare, foreign policy and national security. I find his comment and yours offensive, baseless and insulting.
nhurston Wrote: Jul 16, 2012 1:29 PM
You can be offended and insulted (duplicative much?), but you're 100% wrong that it's baseless. Maybe you aren't racist, but you can rest assured that you are in the minority of your camp.

BTW, I said "inference," which is not the same thing as "knowing." If you took a moment to think, as opposed to kneejerking, you might have realized that. The reasonableness of the inference was based on the fact that Romney would have to be an idiot to think that he would not be booed for making some of his statements to that group. He wanted to gain sympathy from the redneck racists.
ACinNC Wrote: Jul 16, 2012 1:43 PM
You did say 'inference', my apology. But I still find YOUR statement baseless. YOUR statement that the majority of Romney's supporters are racist with no facts to back that up. I know many Romney supporters, none to be even slightly racist, that I can see. Romney would have been castigated by many in the black community had he NOT gone to the NAACP. I made a comment further up the thread about GROUPTHINK...Romney is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't, in addressing the black comment to show respect as fellow Americans, and not taking them for granted as a lost cause.

BTW: Try looking up offensive and insulting in the dictionary. They have different connotations. Offensive is in the general sense, insulting is personal.
ACinNC Wrote: Jul 16, 2012 1:49 PM
Grammar mistake: Meant to say "black community to show respect.....", not 'black comment'.
nhurston Wrote: Jul 16, 2012 2:22 PM
I suppose the numerous racist tea-party signs during the 2008 race and since were all just isolated incidents. Tell you what, when your party stops pandering to the racists, we'll stop assuming that you condone their speech.

And yes I know that there are racists who vote democrat, although the conservative definition of racism has been broadened ad absurdum to the point that even pointing out racism is in itself racism. Those who truly are racists and vote democrat are not lofted as ideals, as the conservatives do with racist tea partiers.
nhurston Wrote: Jul 16, 2012 2:33 PM
There are some definitions that state "insulting" is to have been "given offense," but it would appear for the most part you are correct that "offensive" and "insulting" are not wholly synonyms.
ACinNC Wrote: Jul 16, 2012 3:44 PM
The Tea Party did not exist in 2008........LOL.

Show me PROOF of numerous racist Tea Party signs, PERIOD. And note, I said numerous. If you find ONE, don't bother wasting any of our time extrapolating that into a blanket ad hominem attack on Tea Party followers, who disagree with our President on FISCAL grounds of reigning in govt spending on entitlements that our system cannot sustain.
nhurston Wrote: Jul 16, 2012 4:00 PM
You're right. I should not have included the 2008 election, it was a mishap.
However, their non-existence in 2008 undercuts their argument that they did not coalesce into existence solely because of Obama's election, which certainly connotes a certain amount racism.

You mean to tell me that you've never seen the racist signs? What kind of rock do you live under? Simple GIS, here you go--> https://www.google.com/search?q=racist+tea+party+signs&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=y3IEUImyHKnk0QHWweDSBw&biw=1102&bih=474&sei=znIEUNHqEInz0gGp_bWpBw
ACinNC Wrote: Jul 16, 2012 4:15 PM
@nhurston: You really are amusing.

1) A handful of those signs are racist. There you go extrapolating.

2) Several of the pics are of AFRICAN-AMERICANS, showing their dissatisfaction with Obama's FISCAL policies and record.

3) Most of the pics could have been taken at any kind of rally, not Tea Party.

4) Most of those pics make my case: People are unhappy with Obama's hard-Left FISCAL policies and his support of Chris Dodd & Barney Frank regarding the Fannie Mae/Freddic Mac fiasco.

5) You want to know what started off the Tea Party? Try some REAL history, in the REAL WORLD. It started off from this TV rant by Rick Santelli on our WASTEFUL govt spending:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEZB4taSEoA
nhurston Wrote: Jul 16, 2012 4:41 PM
1) OK, so there are racist signs. Extrapolation is the process of expanding data using known data points.
2) I saw two pics in that list, one of whom worked for Fox News. As I stated above, there are racists in both parties, and not everyone in the tea party is racist (I did say that, didn't I - if not, I meant to). We don't pander or look the other way when confronted with our racists.
3) Uh huh, right... because there were all sorts of non-tea party conservative rallies going on with racist signs.
4) You can be unhappy with fiscal policy without mixing racism into it.
5) Interesting video. Santelli is up in arms about the homeowner bailouts, but he doesn't mention bank bailouts until his follow up here: http://www.cnbc.com/id/294710
Snarkasterous1 Wrote: Jul 16, 2012 4:43 PM
nhurston-

Among the many, many ignorant and mistaken comments you've made, I'll point out this one.

Thanks for your (utterly incorrect) identification of tinfoil as "...reserved for conspiracy theorists."

From Wikipedia: "A tin foil hat is a piece of headgear made from one or more sheets of aluminium foil or similar material....One may wear the hat in the belief that it shields the brain from electromagnetic fields; to prevent mind control and/or mind reading; or to limit the transmission of voices directly into the brain....has become a popular stereotype and term of derision; the phrase serves as a byword for paranoia and persecutory delusions and is associated with conspiracy theorists."
Thus, your "correction" is in error.
Snarkasterous1 Wrote: Jul 16, 2012 4:45 PM
nhurston-

I've pointed out below how your "reserved for conspiracy theorists..." comment evidences your ignorance.

On the topic of your ignorance, we can add the rules pertaining to the use of apostrophes. "meme's" is incorrect - it's simply plural - no apostrophe required.

Once you've removed the errors from the CONTENT of your postings, you can then work on the FORMAT of your postings.

Soon, with some real dedication, you'll likely be accepted as an adult poster.
nhurston Wrote: Jul 16, 2012 4:52 PM
LOL, but the people who thought that there were electromagnetic fields and mind reading are conspiracy theorists. It's all a big coverup!

nhurston Wrote: Jul 16, 2012 4:53 PM
Care to point out how anything truly substantive I have stated is wrong? Sorry about my apostrophe.

Let's start with the fact that unemployment is better for African Americans now than it was two years ago, and by Lurita's logic, Obama must be doing something right.
ACinNC Wrote: Jul 16, 2012 4:55 PM
Well enjoy life in your Leftist ideological bubble.

I have to go. A job to wrap up, family to love, daughters to raise, a God to worship, and a President to vote out of office for the good of America. :-)
nhurston Wrote: Jul 16, 2012 5:15 PM
I hope your job doesn't involve the crafting of cohesive arguments, because I would like to think you are competent at said job and aren't a risk of adding to Obama's unemployment numbers.
Snarkasterous1 Wrote: Jul 16, 2012 7:26 PM
OK, nhurston, by your logic, if in 2013 unemployment for African Americans is reduced by an additional miniscule amount, say, 0.1%, will that, too, be cause for celebratory congratulation of the clearly-failed policies of Obozo?

No matter - he'll be out of office by then. Never mind.
nhurston Wrote: Jul 17, 2012 12:16 PM
If conservatives want to hang unemployment rates solely around Obama's neck, then they have to acknowledge and give him credit when the rates reduce. I am aware that a certain amount of the unemployment rate reduction is due to a reduction in the overall workforce. I found this FoxNews article to state it fairly, particularly that some of the reductions would be due to early retirement of baby boomers and workers going back to school. The article also noted that the trend in workforce reduction began well before Obama took office. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/05/10/jobless-rate-could-be-as-high-as-111-percent/

Barack Obama was a no-show at the recent 103rd NAACP conference, but, clearly, he is being given a pass by the NAACP leadership. Checking the president's schedule, apparently there was nothing so pressing that he should have been unable to attend the meeting in Texas, but instead, he relegated responsibilities of the annual NAACP meeting to the vice president.

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