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Can it be un-American to be a Christian?

0_BAMANATION Wrote: Jul 30, 2012 3:24 PM
Becca in TX... But 10% of human genes have yet to be purposed. Some 50% are believed to be relic ones that do not express (which is why, hopefully, you do not look like a Neanderthal). Once the other 90% of genes are purposed those that compel homosexualism will only then be discovered.
Becca in TX Wrote: Jul 30, 2012 3:27 PM
Harvard completed a very comprehensive study recently-they did not reach the same conclusion you espouse. Since I don't know who you are I've no reason to think that you know better than them.
mulbery Wrote: Jul 30, 2012 3:30 PM
I don't know better than them. The casue of homosexuality hasn't been determined with any degree of certainty. However, in contrast to what many heterosexual christians will say, I can assure you it is not a choice.
0_BAMANATION Wrote: Jul 30, 2012 3:31 PM
I am at Harvard and no conclusive result has yet been determined. It is factual that but 10% of human genes have been purposed to date.
byeBarry Wrote: Jul 30, 2012 3:35 PM
Whirlybirds, send out the whirlybirds harv!
Patriot155 Wrote: Jul 30, 2012 3:35 PM
Curious.

When did you "discover" you were a homosexual?
DCM in FL Wrote: Jul 30, 2012 3:36 PM
Willis_8: I agree that it's not a simple choice, but I also have no reason to believe it's simply genetic either. Why does everyone seem to think those are the only options?

I wouldn't claim that there's one simple cause, but there do seem to be a number of experiential and environmental factors that can be pointed to as common factors. "Gays" themselves seem to deny these, or simply fail to recognize them; but then some I've know have been more honest and/or insightful.
mulbery Wrote: Jul 30, 2012 3:42 PM
age 12. Just woke up one day and that was my thing. Not girls. Boys. Just as simple as any adolescent awakening. And before you start with the stereotypes, I had a very nice, normal childhood. No one molested me. My dad is my best friend, there was no distance in that relationship. My mom was not domineering. My parents had one gay friend who I remember meeting once. That's it.
mulbery Wrote: Jul 30, 2012 3:43 PM
You're going to tell me where my sexual urges come from? You don't even know me. You can stay out of my psyche, thak you. I have NOTHING in common with any explanattion I've seen here about how homsexuality happens. I don't fit Frued's neat little explanation either.
DCM in FL Wrote: Jul 30, 2012 3:47 PM
Actually, I've never heard of "domineering mom" being a contributing factor to homosexuality, though it does figure into certain other sexual addictions.

Can't say anything about your claims since I don't actually know anything about you. But I'm used to pretty much every gay person claiming to be an exception to all the rules, as if the exception *were* the rule -- including ones where I *did* know enough about them to see thru their claims.
Patriot155 Wrote: Jul 30, 2012 3:52 PM
For someone who's so secure in what you believe and your "psyche", you sure are defensive about it. I just asked, man.
mulbery Wrote: Jul 30, 2012 4:15 PM
Its just that one question like that usually leads to assumptions. Just in case you were making them like so many others.
mulbery Wrote: Jul 30, 2012 3:27 PM
I can't wait to find out which gene caused my "homosexualism" but I disagree that it will cause the end of homosexuals. Some people like us and respect us, and want us around. Where's the guy who calls my "lifestyle choice" a "paraphelia" The ignorance here is astounding.
byeBarry Wrote: Jul 30, 2012 3:29 PM
Glad to hear you have friends in the bathhouse.
Buck O Wrote: Jul 30, 2012 3:29 PM
No, I think it's a lot more likely that when/if such a gene is discovered, most of those "fetuses" will be aborted.
DCM in FL Wrote: Jul 30, 2012 3:33 PM
I wouldn't call homosexuality a "lifestyle choice," but I would call it paraphilia.

Ignorance? Sure, I'm so ignorant that I've spent many years working to get to the bottom of what homosexuality is about, learning about it mostly from homosexuals themselves. That's *so* much more ignorant than just accepting the Hollywood-based conventional wisdom, isn't it? (NOT!)
mulbery Wrote: Jul 30, 2012 3:33 PM
That's up to the parents/ mother. Not our choice. I could care less if future abortions are of heterosexuals or homosexuals. Its not like it'll kill off my people. I'm jewish and I'm American and I don't want to see either of those groups killed off.
0_BAMANATION Wrote: Jul 30, 2012 3:33 PM
Will... what will you say when one day the genetic roots of homosexualism are confirmed?

Secondly, the issue is not whether homosexuals can be good people or good neighbors but whether they should at all be around and near impressionable children and do so with concealed intent.
mulbery Wrote: Jul 30, 2012 3:34 PM
That comment doesn't contribute to the conversation. How would you know about bathhouses? Are you one of the married men who tells his wife he's off on business and then goes there?
mulbery Wrote: Jul 30, 2012 3:38 PM
I don't know how you feel about children, but I'm just as itnerested in having all adults keep their hands off of them. I know there are some ignorant people out there who think all homosexuals are child molesters. That's a horrible thing to think. I happen to volunteer for a charity that has the largest child abuse prevention program in my region. And can I add that I don't have a single gay friend who's interested in Children. that's disgusting.
Buck O Wrote: Jul 30, 2012 3:38 PM
Why, willis? Do you think you recognize him?
mulbery Wrote: Jul 30, 2012 3:40 PM
I wouldn't know how to find a bathouse.
DCM in FL Wrote: Jul 30, 2012 3:42 PM
No, not all homosexuals are child molesters. But if one does the math involving same-sex molestations vs. the proportion of gay-identified men, the result implies that a gay-identified man is 60 times more likely to molest than others. This is somewhat misleading in that not all same-sex molestations are by gay-identified men, but even accounting for that, one ends up with a strong assocation between the two paraphilias. The connection can be denied all you want, but it's still there.

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