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The Real Root of Atheists' Anti-Christmas Rage

08hayabusa Wrote: Dec 02, 2012 2:05 PM
McCargar Wrote: 7 minutes ago (1:56 PM) It cannot be moral to burden a newborn with a debt it did not incur. ____________________________________________________ If there is no sin, then how come only one man in the entire history of the world could live up to and fulfill the law of Moses? No matter how much the Jews wanted to, they could not live of to the Law. (Galatians 3:24-25) . . .Consequently the Law has become our tutor leading to Christ, that we might be declared righteous due to faith. 25 But now that the faith has arrived, we are no longer under a tutor.
Colonialgirl Wrote: Dec 02, 2012 2:47 PM
The only "SIN" a newborn has is that caused by Adam and Eve ; God said "For this thou shalt surely die"; So, if the newborn and/or a young child below the age of consent and knowledge dies, he's PAID for that sin. He doesn't need some idiot child molester in robes to sprinkle water on him.
McCargar Wrote: Dec 02, 2012 2:37 PM
Your argument presumes too much.

It presumes that there is sin as described by bronze-age texts, rather than just actions by people at odds with their own good, and the good of others.

It presumes that there was "only one man in the entire history of the world" who did anything, and that it needed being done.

The bible is true, because the bibles says it is so, is circular reasoning, and is rejected by anyone with an ounce of logic.
08hayabusa Wrote: Dec 02, 2012 2:07 PM
The Law's purpose was to manifest sin, prove it existed and that mankind needed salvation.
McCargar Wrote: Dec 02, 2012 2:39 PM
Egregious actions were noted as such long before ten commandments.

Do you believe that people didn't know that murder was wrong before the commandments?

Do you believe that people didn't know that stealing was wrong before the commandments?

It's absurd. Bronze-age men cobbled the religion together in order to control their people.

Archeologists have proved there was no Exodus event from Egypt. The religion is a myth.
Why do some atheists embarrass themselves year after year trying to eradicate Christmas from American culture? Why do they make themselves societal hemorrhoids during this hallowed season? Is it because they are crusaders for equality, secularism’s saviors and humanism’s heroes? I’m sure that’s what they tell themselves when they’re pouting on their couches all alone on Christmas Eve after every single one of their friends has dumped them for being a rabid jackass.

I believe, however—and I could be wrong—that the reason some rage against the machine is that they hate God and love their sin, and bringing up Jesus in...

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