WASHINGTON (AP) — Texas Gov. Rick Perry is trying to turn his debate gaffe into a talking point about a supersized government.Perry acknowledges in an NBC "Today" interview that his forgetfulness in a Michigan debate was not a shining moment.But he also cited "so many agencies of government that I'd like to forget." Perry appeared a day after he declared three governmental agencies should be eliminated, but could only cite two — Commerce and Education. He has stated previously he'd close the Energy Department.But in Thursday's interview, he sought to turn his lapse in thinking to his advantage. Perry said the slip-up helps him make his major campaign point. Perry said, "It just surely gets to the core of the line — that we've got so much government out there."