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Thursday, November 05, 2009
Senate blocks census citizenship question
By ANDREW TAYLOR
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Senate Democrats Thursday blocked a GOP attempt to require next year's census forms to ask people whether they are U.S. citizens.

The proposal by Louisiana Republican Sen. David Vitter was aimed at excluding non-citizens from the population totals that are used to figure the number of congressional representatives for each state.

Critics said Vitter's plan would discourage immigrants from responding to the census and would be hugely expensive. They also said that it's long been settled law that the apportionment of congressional seats is determined by the number of people living in each state, regardless of whether they are citizens. A separate survey already collects citizenship data.

Census data is also used to distribute billions of dollars in federal aid.

"The current plan is to reapportion House seats using that overall number, citizens and non-citizens," Vitter said. "I think that's wrong. I think that's contrary to the whole intent of the Constitution and the establishment of Congress as a democratic institution to represent citizens."

If Vitter were successful _ and if non-citizens were excluded from the census count for congressional apportionment _ states with fewer immigrants would fare significantly better in the upcoming allocation of House seats.

States such as California and Texas would fare worse than they would under the current way of allocating seats, which under the Constitution is based on the "whole number of persons" residing in a state.

Louisiana stands to lose one of its seven House seats in the upcoming round of reapportionment. Vitter says that if non-citizens were excluded, Louisiana and eight other states would keep or gain congressional seats that would go to California, Texas, Illinois and New York. Vitter said the other eight states were: North Carolina, South Carolina, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Mississippi, Michigan, Iowa and Indiana.

Vitter's amendment, however, would not have changed the way the congressional seats are allocated by counting citizens and non-citizens alike.

Census Director Robert Groves opposes the proposal and recently told lawmakers that it would greatly delay the decennial count. Continued...

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Is it fair that if a state has 7 million people living there but only 4 million are citizens it is allocated more seats than a state with 5 million citizens? The elected officials are elected to represent the citizens of this country no to look after the special interests of those who illegally by pass those waiting for legal entry into this country. Of course, the democrats would not know that unless someone told them - they don't read the bills they sign so why would they read the Constitution? It is unconstitutional to allocate seats based on anything other than legal citizens eligible to vote.

Oh dem hypocrites
This proposal makes absolute sense if you are educated and an honest citizen. The allocation of seats truly should only be based on Legal Citizens. The dems can use word games and say but that is not what the Constitution requires but it is of course just their deceptive way of gaining seats. I think it is unconstitutional to allocate the seats this way since non citizens are not eligible to vote (but able to with Acorn and SEIU help). Perhaps that is something that can be taken up for discussion if congress decides to do some real work rather than using their proposed healthcare control bill as a smokescreen.
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