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- T - (bear)2 Wrote: Nov 21, 2014 2:52 AM
Spick Semper Tyrannis , Sic Semper Tyrannis ?
NonuGraz Wrote: Nov 18, 2014 11:42 AM
Finally a comment from a liberal professor I kinda agree with, but how about going just a little farther and talking about the unconstitutional power grab over the years that the federal government has taken from the states? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm!
Thomas233 Wrote: Nov 18, 2014 8:30 AM
THE QUESTION IS WILL THE NEW ELECTORATE DO THE RIGHT THING OR DO WE HAVE MASSIVE RECALL ELECTIOND TO GRT THE RIGHT PEOIPLE IN OFFICE TO DO THE RIGHT THING WE CANNOT BACK DOWN NOW
Jim Oakland Wrote: Nov 17, 2014 3:36 PM
Every single constitutional violation must be punished or they will continue to violate it. It is very serious to allow violations of the constitution to go unchecked. It does not matter who did what in the past, it matters today who is violating it. No more violations. Not even one tiny one for a "good reason."
WJF Wrote: Nov 17, 2014 3:42 PM
"Every single constitutional violation must be punished or they will continue to violate it."

THEY = Barack Obama
Jim Oakland Wrote: Nov 17, 2014 3:20 PM
Remember that Obama stopped WW2 veterans from entering their memorial during the shutdown, but then let illegals in to the mall to protest for "equal rights."
JL36 Wrote: Nov 18, 2014 7:31 AM
That was an "in your face", for sure. As long as he gets away with it, he will continue until we are no more.
psydoc Wrote: Nov 17, 2014 3:20 PM
cleric77 Wrote:13 mins ago (3:04 PM)
Yes, it appears that Mr. Obama has the complusive lying disorder....should his wife seek professional help for this disorder for him ASAP?????
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Many mental health specialists think that individuals with low self-esteem who are looking, whether knowingly or unknowingly, for some sort of attention, or to cover up a failure are prone to the disorder.

I think it is important to note that habitual lying is a symptom of a larger personality disorder including borderline personality disorder and antisocial personality disorder.

There are treatment options; however, they will only be effective if the liar agrees to treatment. If family and/or friends push the liar into treatment it is likely to fail.

Treatment should probably be centered around the addictive aspect of the disorder. Also, helping the liar understand how their behavior affects others. It is a difficult disorder to treat as it requires the liar to change their way of thinking, not only about themselves, but the world around them.
oldshortfatboy Wrote: Nov 18, 2014 1:42 AM
There are 2 simpler treatments, doc. First is jail, the second is a .45 Hydra-Shok between the eyes.
WJF Wrote: Nov 17, 2014 3:20 PM
Barack Obama lying and obfuscating the Truth to the American Citizens is vile and despicable.

Barack Obama has proven beyond any reasonable doubt that he is a 'Pathological Liar'.

What is difficult to determine - are the boundaries of Barack Obama's 'Pretend World' and whether or not he can separate reality from his fantasies.

In Barack Obama's 'Pretend World' he sees himself as omniscient (knowing everything) and yet feigns ignorance of any event that casts dispersions on him.

Obama's excuse is usually that he has the Ability to know everything - he just has not heard about the 'Event' in question until he heard or read about it in the news.

Barack Obama is doing two things at once here - verifying the "News" is accurate and tells all (actually News Organizations cover and lie for him) and 'Planting' the lie of deniability that 'IF' he had known about this 'Event' - he would have stopped the 'Event'.

This is Obama's pattern of behavior in everything from 'Fast and Furious' to Benghazi or the IRS etc.

Since Barack Obama holds the safety of the United States of America and each one of us in the balance of his judgment and decision making process - this is a serious situation.

Can Barack Obama distinguish 'Reality' from his make believe 'Pretend World'?

Is Barack Obama delusional or psychotic?
Raytus Wrote: Nov 17, 2014 3:04 PM
We can't the military remove him from office?
Birdman III Wrote: Nov 17, 2014 3:13 PM
DO you mean as a military coup?
Arby Wrote: Nov 17, 2014 2:36 PM
Barack Obama is a scumbag with no respect for America, for Americans and for the Constitution. He adores illegals, Muslims, rioting and thieving blacks, and Chinese with visas. Wait until he leaves office…and we find out for sure that he is a Muslim, he was not born in the U.S. and he doesn't have half the education he has led people to believe.

Stupid stupid stupid people voted for this black clown. They are as bad as he is.
cleric77 Wrote: Nov 17, 2014 1:34 PM
In psychiatry, pathological lying (also called compulsive lying, pseudologia fantastica and mythomania) is a behavior of habitual or compulsive lying.[ Does Mr. Obama have this behavioral health problem???
psydoc Wrote: Nov 17, 2014 2:06 PM
Cleric, people with compulsive lying disorder are unable to control their lies and feel no guilt about their lies, regardless of how it affects themselves and/or others. Lack of guilt is frequently the result of the individual becoming so caught up in the lie they are telling that they begin to believe it themselves. If confronted with a lie they have told in the past or one that they are presently telling, they will be insistent that they are speaking the truth.

Does that sound like someone we know?
cleric77 Wrote: Nov 17, 2014 3:04 PM
Yes, it appears that Mr. Obama has the complusive lying disorder....should his wife seek professional help for this disorder for him ASAP?????
Stan Wrote: Nov 17, 2014 1:13 PM
Face it guys--Obama is a muslim and is out to destroy our constitution whatever way he can.And no one will stop him. Note who all his hand picked people are, who he put in position of power.
americathebeautiful Wrote: Nov 17, 2014 1:27 PM
Yes indeed Stan and obama along with all of those dozen muslims who are conspiring with him want desperately to install Sharia Law here in our beloved USA.
Steve18 Wrote: Nov 17, 2014 3:02 PM
They couldn't do it with 911..so they stuck in a 'ringer". And FOOLS voted him into office..along with a few million fraudulent votes..
Dave1722 Wrote: Nov 17, 2014 12:49 PM
How does Obama reconcile his executive amnesty with what he said in his book?

http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/16/shock-flashback-obama-says-illegal-immigration-hurts-blue-collar-americans-strains-welfare-video/

JL36 Wrote: Nov 18, 2014 7:43 AM
Well, see Dave, he doesn't have to. He can change his mind on a dime, and he can lie to us at will, without any explanation at all. See, us peons don't deserve any consideration from the great hussein, as he IS the great one, grabbing all the power he can and he will lord it over us until we cry "uncle" and convert to his cult.

I don't know when (I pray it is soon), but he will plant his foot over the "red line", and he will find out what pushing real Americans will get him.
M30 Wrote: Nov 17, 2014 12:40 PM
Texyankee, He would not be taken out. He and his band of thieves have installed the most unethical, immoral, and illegal bunch of chicago thugs in every clime and place in the government. His despicable agenda will be administered for about 25 more years as that is how long it will take to purge people installed wholesale accross the government employee rolls. States like NY and IL have done this for years. It is hard to stomp them out. That is how he pays back big union bosses....jobs at high levels (not appointees) Administrators of programs - GS 11- GS 15 and some SES. THey will never leave - just keep the agenda going
texasyankee Wrote: Nov 17, 2014 12:25 PM
Obama doesn't care about the Constitution, and he doesn't believe in the Constitution, Jonathan. If he were impeached, he would probably refuse to leave office, and have to be carried out, kicking and screaming, by US Marshalls.
oldshortfatboy Wrote: Nov 18, 2014 1:45 AM
Impeachment is not removal from office. Clinton got impeached and finished his term. It's not anything more than a slap on the wrist or a note from the principal.
Jack3626 Wrote: Nov 17, 2014 12:17 PM
Don't forget the will of the people.
Jeff2422 Wrote: Nov 17, 2014 11:52 AM
Jonathan, just admit that the Progressive/Liberal agenda of bureaucratic control through the executive branch is a complete breach of the Constitution. The Supremes got it right the first time when they found the New Deal legislation an unconstitutional delegation of legislative authority to the executive. FDR threatened to pack the court and it has been down hill ever since. Obama is only putting the finishing touches on the executive branch takeover that has been in the making for 80 years.
860137 Wrote: Nov 17, 2014 11:32 AM
Hillary Clinton may not be much at administering the State Department, but she’s certainly a pro when it comes to expressing outrage at her own persecution. For the woman who is supposedly the world’s most powerful feminist, her sense of victimhood remains surprisingly strong. That’s never been more true than in her new book, Hard Choices, which points out that she – not the four men who died in Benghazi, Libya, on the night of September 11, 2012 – is the victim.
Kirk Mac Wrote: Nov 17, 2014 11:15 AM
We'll then Prof Turley, maybe you and the rest of your Marxist democrat friends can talk to Obama, kinda like the conversation Goldwater had with Nixon.
Tinsldr2 Wrote: Nov 17, 2014 11:10 AM
Henry VIII Wrote: 25 mins ago (10:36 AM)
Amnesty will immediately legalize 5 million illegal immigrants, and that will mean they can vote,......................

No it does not mean they can vote. A legal immigrant is still NOT a citizen and therefore can NOT legally vote. They would get a type of "green card" but not be citizens.

My wife is a legal immigrant and is not a US Citizen, she has had a green card forever and while she talks about applying for US citizenship so she can vote, she keeps procrastinating.

Just getting Amnesty does not make them eligible to vote.

And to be VERY CLEAR, I AM AGAINST AMENESTY!! That above is not a defense of Amnesty nor an attack on Henry. Just pointing out that Amnesty does NOT let the immigrants vote.
Birdman III Wrote: Nov 17, 2014 11:23 AM
There already illegals voting. What do you think motor/voter was all about? You register to get a driver's license and you register to vote. It is that simple.
Tinsldr2 Wrote: Nov 17, 2014 11:25 AM
So you agree giving them legal status does not change their voting ability. My wife has a legal drivers license but can not legally vote.
Birdman III Wrote: Nov 17, 2014 11:34 AM
They are already voting. As long as they have a driver's license under motor/voter, they are voting.
Birdman III Wrote: Nov 17, 2014 11:39 AM
Oregon already figured it out. That is why Oregon is no longer issuing driver's licenses to illegals.
Tinsldr2 Wrote: Nov 17, 2014 12:11 PM
Motor voter does not mean you can vote just because you have a driver license

Look it up or I will post link explaining motor voter to bird after lunch
clidke frawley Wrote: Nov 17, 2014 12:32 PM
I was also married to a foreign national and I can tell you that while it may not be legal, lots of illegals do vote. When my husband got his driver's license, he was mailed a voter registration card. I assume this is a problem with the 'motor-voter' program. Apart form my anecdotal evidence, there are reports form all over the country that where voter registration is tied to the issuance of driver's licenses, people whoa re not eligible to vote are being registered and getting voter registration cards. Without voter ID laws, these people can and do vote.
oscar77 Wrote: Nov 17, 2014 12:32 PM
And yet there are many states that don't even ask for the driver's license - only an address, or not even that. Bird's point is correct - there are already illegals voting, illegally. And the Dems want that to keep on going.
Tinsldr2 Wrote: Nov 17, 2014 12:57 PM
And my point to OScar and cldke is that if they are voting illegally now, the amnesty does not change that. Again I am against Amnesty

however, it is just s illegal for them to vote now as it would be if they were legal.

Motor voter gives them the application to vote, they still must fraudulently fill it out in order to vote. Many people do commit voter fraud now and Amnesty will not change that

Birdman III Wrote: Nov 17, 2014 3:16 PM
The point in reality is that illegals are voting... they care not that they are voting illegally.
Archer77 Wrote: Nov 17, 2014 11:24 AM
Although I appreciate your clarification, have you been paying attention to Pres O?
If these 5 million gain amnesty do you really think they will not be voting if O wants them to? Just because we believe he abuses his position, someone has to stop him.
Tinsldr2 Wrote: Nov 17, 2014 11:28 AM
Actually I have been paying attention which is why I know they will not be voting

Again I am against the Amnesty but I wish people would be more accurate about it
Archer77 Wrote: Nov 17, 2014 11:32 AM
Tin: I hope your take on the future is correct. You have more faith in
O than I do.
Jeff2422 Wrote: Nov 17, 2014 11:49 AM
What one should expect is a number of state legislative acts (states decide electors) to allow them to vote and an equal number of legal suits. If a judge can find that a vagrant with no legal address can vote, don't hold your breath about folks with newly minted ID cards and Social Security numbers not being allowed to vote. What is even better, the law suits will be paid for by our tax dollars. It is a great country that we live in.
William6382 Wrote: Nov 17, 2014 12:57 PM
I'm absolutely certain that no illegal aliens are voting. They can't because it's against the law. There is no way that they would violate the law, because they made an oath in writing when they registered to vote that they were US citizens. That oath is subject to verification and I'm sure that we spend billions of taxpayer dollars to ensure that no illegals are voting. The system must work very well, because more and more states are finding it unnecessary to ask for ID at the polls.
Tinsldr2 Wrote: Nov 17, 2014 2:19 PM
I'm absolutely certain that no illegal aliens are voting.

I am absolutely certain that you can not understand the point I made.

Not sure of your ability to comprehend. Illegal Immigrants and people ineligible to vote are doing that now if they want. Amnesty does not change that.

What WOULD change that is changing the law at the federal level mandating voter registration be done with proof of citizenship, and voter ID Laws.

But again William's attempt at sarcasm shows he does not understand my point AND PROBABLY NEVER WILL (NOT THAT HE DISAGREES WITH IT, BUT THAT HE DOES NOT COMPREHEND IT)
Birdman III Wrote: Nov 17, 2014 3:30 PM
Tin is not supposed to corrode. But tinsldr must be coated with an inferior product because his brand of tin is corroded thru and thru with holes.

Just because he makes a claim does not make that claim true. Just because it is illegal for an illegal to vote does not mean that illegals do not vote. But giving them amnesty WILL exasperate the issue. The only way to combat this problem is to kick the illegals out of the country. The only way to keep them out is to secure the border.
William6382 Wrote: Nov 17, 2014 3:46 PM
Tinsldr2: You seem to have an ego as big as Obama's. Where did you get the idea that I was responding to anything you posted?

But since you brought the subject up, what point did you make that I did not comprehend?
JL36 Wrote: Nov 18, 2014 8:09 AM
I asked this question to my House Rep. during a town hall meeting. He, unfortunately, pointed out that as long as the illegals are issued driving licenses, they will be able to vote. It sounds to me, that because your wife entered the country and did things the legal way, she is being punished in comparison to the illegals. (I hope that came out right -- my head is a little foggy this AM -- too cold).
Obama_dogeater Wrote: Nov 17, 2014 11:10 AM
Rue the day indeed! Just wait til we have a Republican in the White House in 2017!
oscar77 Wrote: Nov 17, 2014 12:33 PM
I don't want a Republican to do this stuff, either.
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