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Friday, October 06, 2006
Chris Stovall :: Townhall.com Columnist
The attack on marriage amendments, in 3-D
by Chris Stovall
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Same-sex "marriage" advocates have taken a drubbing in court this summer. Their bid to redefine marriage has been rejected in 20 states by constitutional amendments passed by overwhelming margins. Not surprisingly, their camp is desperate to score at least one victory – and soon – by defeating one of the eight additional state marriage amendments on the ballot this November.

These special-interest activists have a dilemma, though. Their best efforts to appeal to the courts and the public with claims for "marriage equality" have failed; most Americans just don’t believe that society will benefit from the government's promotion of relationships between two men or two women – at least, in the same way or to the same degree that society benefits from encouraging men and women to marry.

In other words, most Americans are still convinced that political special interests shouldn’t trump what’s in the best interest of families and children.

So what's a desperate marriage re-definer to do? Hand out 3-D glasses to the voters, and hope that Distraction, Distortion, and Disinformation will blur the issue.

Distraction: One of the principal tactics employed by opponents of this November's marriage amendments is the publicizing of how these amendments will allegedly harm heterosexual couples who choose not to marry. In Arizona, for instance, marriage opponents are targeting loving retired couples who cohabitate but don't marry, because marrying would mean the loss of valuable economic benefits tied to their status as a single widow or widower. (Funny: these morally preachy groups have few qualms about encouraging seniors to defraud their dead spouses' employers.)

By emphasizing this line of argument (and similar scare tactics touting "unintended consequences" to unmarried opposite-sex couples), marriage opponents clearly hope to distract voters from the reality that redefining marriage is a campaign driven by the radical homosexual agenda. Put a "straight" face on the supposed ill effects of the amendment, and more heterosexuals might reject it out of self-interest. (Which raises the question: how it is in anyone's self interest to undermine the fundamental building block of ordered democratic society?)

Distortion: Another favorite technique of marriage amendment opponents is to distort the language of proposed amendments through crafty paraphrasing. Opponents of these marriage amendments tell the public that these initiatives will "prohibit domestic partners from receiving benefits." In fact, that would only be true for public entities that are too stingy (or too worried about making a politically-correct "statement") to provide benefits to adult dependents who are not the sex partners of their unmarried employees.

Opponents assert that such amendments will prevent a person from designating their unmarried, cohabitating, sexual partner as the beneficiary of a government benefit. In truth, what these amendments do is require the government to provide benefits on a broader basis, rather than favor one particularly vocal special interest group over another – in this case: unmarried people over other unmarried people with equally or more compelling needs for dependent benefits.

Instead of weakening the institution of marriage by producing a legal status that treats cohabitating sexual partners like the spouses of married persons, governments can allow benefits to be assigned on a fairer, more neutral basis. For instance: a policy could be created to allow someone entitled to a benefit (say, an employee with health insurance) to extend that benefit to a financially interdependent adult living in the same household – i.e., a disabled adult sibling, or an elderly parent living in the employee's home.

Disinformation: Perhaps the boldest – and most insulting – tool in the marriage amendment opposition's kit is the lie that assumes the public is too ignorant to know any better: "We don't need a constitutional amendment because same-sex marriage is already prohibited by statute in this state."

Anyone who has been through an eighth grade civics class should know that constitutions trump statutes, and that a court can invalidate a statute if it decides that statute violates a constitutional provision. This line of disinformation, then, is a Trojan horse smuggling a SWAT team of attorneys for Lambda Legal Defense Fund and the ACLU.

When opponents of marriage amendments say there’s “no need” for a constitutional amendment, what they’re really thinking is, "Please don't figure out that only a marriage amendment can prevent activist judges from discovering a ‘right’ to same-sex ‘marriage’ in the state constitution and striking down that pesky statute as unconstitutional."

It is roughly one month until Election Day, when the voters in eight more states will have the opportunity to protect and preserve our most important social institution, marriage, from those who want to redefine it in the courts and legislatures, and from those who want to undermine its unique status as the best legal protection for children and society.

Here's hoping that voters do away with the 3-D glasses, and open their eyes to how important these amendments are for America.

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Chris Stovall serves as Senior Legal Counsel for the Alliance Defense Fund.

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In Arizona its for real
I have never see the attack on the marriage as being between a man and a woman so attacked by out of state $$ as with any other issue. They are also playing a victim issue (poor those who cannot live in sin [ my distortion]) like I have not seen on this issue. All guns to try and defeat the 1st Marriage Definition as ... state admenment.

to ProfGene---NO we don't believe
a Marriage Amendment (which SHOULD be called a "CHILD Protection Amendment") is going to solve all the problems.

I agree with much of what you said about the materialism in our society, and families. Please see what I wrote to Nanarae above about parents having low expectations of their children. I agree also, to some extent, with your statement:

"Marriage has been redefined long ago and not by homosexuals but by lack of respect for marriage vows or any kind of vows or giving of one's word." But I would substitute "weakened" for "redefined."

But, Re your: "And if you think some ammendment forbidding Gay Marriage is going to fix the problems in the American family then the chances to fix the problems are too far gone and things will only get worse."

NO!!! Of COURSE we don't believe that a Marriage Protection Amendment (note the DIFFERENCE from "forbidding Gay Marriage") is going to fix all the problems currently extant in our nation's family life. That will be a never ending process, and must be done family by family---BUT, IF the same-sex 'marriage' advocates have THEIR WAY, THEN, in your words: "The chances to fix the problems are too far gone and things will only get worse."

You and many others don't seem to make the connection with the thought policing, and loss of freedoms of speech and of religion, that accompany the "h*m*-normativity" doctrine. These connections are manifested very clearly to those of us who live in Massachusetts and Connecticut, through implementing Same-sex 'marriage,' or even Civil Unions legislation. (See massresistance.org and ctfamily.org blog if you are not aware of the instances of loss of these other rights.)

One final example---the citizens of California (and really nation-wide, as the text-book publishers tend to not publish separate editions for one state) just narrowly escaped having their public school children PREVENTED from reading the words HUSBAND, WIFE, FATHER, MOTHER in any school text books. Fortunately, in response to huge e-mail and call volume (I'm sure), their Governor vetoed the bill passed in the Calif. legislature which would have required the terms describing GENDER and traditional marriage roles to be censored from all textbooks. Instead, the textbooks would have lauded the specific contributions of various gays and lesbians.

Who's attacking what?
"I have remained married to my wife, though the marriage could now be considered "gay". So, just how does that interfere with any of YOU busybodies?

Answer: Not at all!"

Fairly bizarre statement I don't know if I fully understand, but no matter, the principle is the same.

Those who use this argument (how does a change in the definition of marriage hurt YOUR marriage?) is rank narcissism. Nothing matters to those that make this point except THEMSELVES. Those who want to protect marriage are looking at the impact on SOCIETY and successive generations. We know that children raised in any other arrangement are generally less well-off (the number one indicator of child poverty is...survey says...children being raised without a father!) than those raised by their own married mother and father. The evidence is so overwhelming that people who argue against this truth care more about a radical political agenda than care of children. This, OF COURSE, is not to say that EVERY married couple will be good parents, but the evidence is clear -- the BEST environment for children is obvious and the state shouldn't encourage any other relationship or behavior, particularly "lifestyles" KNOWN to be generally disadvantageous to children.

The union between one man and one woman is unique like NO OTHER relationship because of what this AND ONLY THIS relationship can produce -- children. This goes to why the state recognizes marriage in the first place and why the state has NO INTEREST in promoting ANY other relationship as marriage -- because the state benefits when the rearing of children is channeled into a legal relationship where BOTH PARENTS are legally bound to raise those children so the state doesn't have to.

Not only that -- marriage laws are completely NON-DISCRIMINATORY -- each and every person is subject to IDENTICAL restrictions in respect to whom one may or may not marry. This is why the comparison of anti-miscegenation laws and today's attack on marriage is completely invalid. Those old, sick and racist laws created a situation where not everyone was treated equally under the law. Not so with marriage law as exists today.

Nanarae, why such LOW STANDARDS?
You said that you (in effect) "want" your "grandson to try homosexual relations," just not "until after he has tried heterosexual."

For a grandmother, I'm dismayed that you have such LOW EXPECTATIONS for your grandchildren. IMO, these low expectations in today's society, and acceptance by too many parents of the LOWEST COMMON DENOMINATOR type of behavior are at the root of many, if not most, of the societal and family problems we have today.

It used to be that when a child said "Well, everybody else is doing it!" parents would respond with something like: "We don't care what they do, it's not acceptable behavior, and we EXPECT BETTER of you."

Good parents today still say those things. In fact, they are actively teaching their children good moral values (usually with the help of church involvement). Because of that active teaching and involvement, in many instances the son or daughter is not even going to want to do some of the things they see peers doing, such as substance abuse and sexual experimentation. They KNOW what's RIGHT AND WRONG, and that those wrong activities are not congruent with their ultimate happiness and best good.

Are gays made?
nanarae,

Actually, I think the post has been remarkably on-topic. As for your comments:

"That first sexual experience is so powerful it effects how you relate to sex for the rest of your life." So, if a person's first sexual experience is lousy (which it is for a lot of people), then they'll avoid sex from then on?

"Since I think most gays are made, Not all, most, not born..." Well, the science seems to disagree with you on that, although it's nowhere near conclusive.

But We Don't Want Religion In Government
I don't understand, can someone explain that seculars want us to recognize Gay marriage when marriage is a religious union. However, we don't want religion in government. Isn't there a contradition in that the Gay community wants to be recognized ... by our government ... and be able to be married as defined by a government that has its roots in Christianity? Huh? What am I missing?

Marriage in America
Marriage in society is defined by the realities of how marriage works in the society. And in American society the state of marriage is dreadful. People go into marriage with little or no idea what they are getting into and they do not through their actions show that sacred vows are either sacred or meant to be kept. The long lines at the return counter at Walmart after Christmas is a perfect picture of what marriage has become. Try it you might like it but if it isn't what you expected just get a divorce and try again. There is no repsect for children in this country who are shuttled around like cattle from one divorced spouse to another and the children play one parent against another to get cool material goods which is about the height of most of their ambitions, to be cool and have cool things. Parents most often each have a job if they are together and have little time with their children. If they would rent instead of buying a dwelling, have only one car and a used on, and not have to have every gaget on the market they most likely could get by with one parent staying home with the kids, but things and lifestyle have become more important than kids. I come from an old fashion family where the mother was a real mother and kids could not get their every whim and I believe that parents giving in to the peer pressure of their children does not mean times have changed but they refuse to give children proper discipline and are shirking their responsibilies as parents. There are no longer decent family values in America and the term family values is a lie made up by politicans to get reelected. The real values are having a lot of expensive toys not matter what the cost to the family. Families used to live in neighborhoods where the whole extended family was nearby. Now extended families are scattered all over the country. Marriage has been redefined long ago and not by homosexuals but by lack of respect for marriage vows or any kind of vows or giving of one's word. The desire to acquire wealth quickly without really earning it, the desire for instant satisfaction has replaced the work ethic that made America great. And if you think some ammendment forbidding Gay Marriage is going to fix the problems in the the American family then the chances to fix the problems are too far gone and things will only get worse.

This post
has badly deteriorated. I have forgotten what the column was about... But to you people for gay marriage, it's about the children. I don't care how you live your life but I do care when my 12 year old grandson flips through channels and sees two men making love on the logo channel. If I don't protest, he thinks it is normal. Since I think most gays are made, Not all, most, not born, I need to keep this kind of visual out of my house. Little boys that age are just discovering their sexuality, and I think it adds to their raised libido. At that age, everything does. Procreation is an instinct in humans second only to survival. That first sexual experience is so powerful it effects how you relate to sex for the rest of your life. I know horny little boys will try a lot. I don't want my grandson to try homosexual relations until after he has tried heterosexual.

Are peopletoo sinful to Protect Children
When people have alot of sin, their children learn to grin and bear it. Are people really that sinful,? that they look away when it comes to the childhood, innocence that every adult needs to be reminded that the children's innocent laughter is the best medicine. Our children are without a doubt be denied their childhood, their protection, the natural love of parents, man and woman, mother and father. That is the natural family of mankind. What are we thinking, what is in that pea size brain of the liberated sinful sexual adult? God have mercy on the souls of the deviants that prey on children. For they will be punished. Amen!!!!!!!

Cetlic
I don't think it's a gay marriage.

Donaldd
What do you think that Jesus meant by that statement?

I'm certain it meant that those who mistreat or fail to listen to His church do so to Him, and that those who doo good to and listen to His church do also to Him.

The gays are in trouble
If the number of states that pass constitutional marriage amendments gets up to or over 37, the federal constitution is next.

Defining Minority
"In other words, most Americans are still convinced that political special interests shouldn’t trump what’s in the best interest of families and children."

Which only goes to show how smart the founding fathers were, and by corallary...

Why do we have representative democracy? Because direct democracy won't work. Why? Well one important reason (among many) is outlined in Federalist Paper no. 10. In that paper Madison states it clearly: in a direct democracy the majority will aways vote to oppress the minority.

The history of this country is that a miriad of religious minority factions, immigrant minority factions were seeking refuge in these here United States.

To our shame we have forgotten our own minority heritage. California passes frequently passes direct democracy ballot measures that affirms the majority position and discriminates against minorities. Thus the Marriage ballot measure and the Affirmative action ballot measure.

And this is a supposed progressive state, California, that is lost in the woods compared to what the founders understood.

The smallest minority is a minority of 1. That minority is enshrined in the Bill of Rights.

Why are Individual Rights and minority rights so important?

Answer, everyone is part of some minority. Meaning everyone in the majority has certain things about them like their religion or race which is not in the majority. So by protecting the minority factions one is in reality protecting the majority.

This country is lost. Because Chris Stovall makes no attempt to frame oppressing gays as just with respect to this country'shistory of minority and individual rights, he's guilty of being un-democratic. Direct Democracy eventually devolves to anarchy because everyone is part of a minority faction and everyone being persecuted is what the founders were trying to avoid.

It is not reason enough to persecute a minority just because the majority wishes it in this country. In fact the Bill of Rights guarantees that the Individual has rights the collective country cannot compromise. Thus O.J. Simpson is a free man even though we all know he is guilty.






Ain't Gonna be a Marxist Revolution
celtic-dragon writes: "Mountain Rose: There are more serious things to worry about than the handful of ageing, hippie Maxists still dreaming of revoloution. Ain't gonna happen."

Yep, that's right Mountain Rose, because as dragon says: a Marxist revolution Ain't gonna happen. The good ol' USA will just surrender when the right time comes, which ain't very far away.

Stovall talked about Disinformation in today's opinion. The Marxists are masters of disinformation. People will better understand why American citizens are becoming so divided and unpatriotic if they would learn a little more about the Marxist long range plan to take over America.

Of course I know most people believe only what they want to believe, but they sure should oughta believe this: America did NOT win the Cold War. The collapse of the USSR was planned -- by the Communist hierarchy.

To learn a little bit about what I'm saying, I'd suggest starting with Anatoliy Golitsyn's book New Lies For Old. Golitsyn correctly predicted the tearing down of the Berlin Wall. Sorry, President Reagan, although I did love your presidency.

One Author wrote that Golitsyn's predictions has a 94% accuracy rate. Ckeck out this URL first:
http://www.shout.net/~bigred/NewLies.html

And then for "The proof is in the pudding" be sure and read this one:
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=19793

At least start reading "The proof is in the pudding." All you old-timers that keep up with the political scene will recognize the truth because you'll see most things mentioned in these articles have already come to past, and more of Golitsyn's predictions are coming true every year.

I think what most of us need is to become more like Kathy -- A strong Jesus Christ Believer.

Donaldd must think
that all Republicans are Conservatives are Religous Rightists are evil and are searching for people to oppress. That is far from the truth or reality. Try to remember it is the majority of conservatives who want to be left alone by their government Donaldd.

Donaldd's last paragraph had the "conservative" ideal pretty much dead-on. Keep marriage what it has always been and give the other "unions" or financial relationships a different name, even if they get similar "rights".

Conservatives actually are the ones under attack by the homosexual, transgendered, sex-changed and polygamists and/or trans-species "marriage" activists because conservatives refuse to change the definition of MARRIAGE.

I agree that there is a faction of conservative-leaning folks who think that their god demands they instruct and determine what goes on in some or all of your life. To take it that far makes them FANATICS, just exactly as it makes the gay folks wanting to change marriage FANATICS.

And it is that general public opinion that drives some homosexuals nuts. They insist that they are mainstream middle-of-the-road citizens. That being their belief does not make a minority into a majority, which is what the "mainstream" is.

Now if some of you want to come back at me in this forum and insist that the Religous Right is far worse than the Gay Left then let us talk about NAMBLA and see how far that argument gets you.

The last point is about why does Government want to control marriage? Get a clue here. Government is not some separate entity living in Washington or the State capitols. Government does not "make" any tangable goods or products. For instance many refer to Welfare as being paid for by Government, those folks are ignorant.

Our government consists of hundreds of thousands of employees either elected or hired, directly or indirectly by the cumulative voting of the general population. Government is people, controling other people. Those folks in government got there because they want to be in control and they often work very hard to get that control. And then they work even harder to keep that control. To do that they garner support (money,votes,endorsements) from interest groups. "Special Interest" groups get singled out as being particularly evil depending on whois making the point and what group(s) they are members of. Even an individual can be a member of a Special Interest group, say if they are asking for a building permit.

It is all those "interest groups" and accompanying politicans that control government and our lives. So if you want to know why "government" wants to control marriage then ask the guy next to you. It's his fault you sometimes don't get your way and it is his fault when you do get your way. You just need to be in the biggest group to get your way, which is why we have Parties.





You bigots make me laugh
What's it to you if gay people can get legally married? So you don't like gay people--so what? How do their private arrangements affect you? And who cares if it is "redefining marriage"? I'm straight and married. I think allowing gays the same rights as straight people is the only fair solution. It cracks me up to see these beefy, earnest, manly-men deep in prayer begging God to validate their prejudice. It's as if their spiritual awareness begins and ends in the conviction that God is a superhero who will vindicate their petty fears and frustrations if they only grovel enough.

Deja Vu
A lot of the arguments I've heard against same-sex marriage in this article and forum sound eerily similar to the old arguments against different-race marriage. Is that the Alliance Defence Fund's next battleground, Mr. Stovall?

re: Donaldd
Yeah, Adolf, yeah! Hitler Hitler Hitler! Just like the war on poverty - we're all Hitlers! Same song third verse!

What constitutional "right" do you perceive as being destroyed? I mean a real, enumerated constitutional "right" not a "privilege" or "presumed" right like the "right" to talk on a telephone or the "right" to kill your own offspring.

The marriage right (privilege) of gays ARE the same as everyone else's. I'm male so I have to marry a woman just like any other male. This is no different than the government benefit of being treated in a veteran's hospital. If you want the benefit you have to qualify for it. Saying that someone else gets something you don't is not a civil rights violation and does not qualify you to receive benefits.

It doesn't matter what the Right or the Left claims is the basis for legal, State recognized marriage, it matters what the Government claims and they use the same criteria that has been in place for thousands of years. Whether the marriage is performed by a priest, ship's captain or a JP is a matter of process administration as far as the government is concerned. Governments encourage the natural gender-pairing of couples to help facilitate the possible production of new little taxpayers and soldiers, among other things, and to promote social stability and harmony. They must be onto something because I've noticed a whole lot of instability and disharmony over this subject. Maybe we should leave it the way it is - which by the way is not "taking away" anyone's rights (privileges) because you cannot take away something that does not exist.

FYI To All
I have remained married to my wife, though the marriage could now be considered "gay". So, just how does that interfere with any of YOU busybodies?

Answer: Not at all!

Young'uns
Young straight men seldom say they want to get married. It's a sell-out, a social stereotype or they don't want the responsibilities and restrictions imposed by marriage. I was the same way in my early years and I believe it's a common and natural. When we're young we need to venture into the jungle to assert our relativeness and prove we're in charge of our lives. Some of my young male relatives are at this stage now. But ask them what they think of gay marriage and you'll get an argument like you would not believe! It's a dire moral necessity! It's "fair." It's a "right" denied and anyone who disagrees is a bigot, homophobe or religious zealot. Kids nowadays, where do they get these silly notions?

Mountain Rose
There are more serious things to worry about than the handful of ageing, hippie Maxists still dreaming of revoloution. Ain't gonna happen.

I was
in California in the 80's when Disneyland had a "gay and lesbian day". They didn't inform the public. The park was full of families with children when a gay couple started doing the nasty right out in full view of everyone. It was reported on the news, no one was arrested. It is beyond enough when they rub, hug, french kiss, all that in front of our children, but to actually have sex in public was more than even the most tolerant among us could stand. This is what happens in a politically correct society. My Dad always said, "if you believe something, stand your ground. Because if you give an inch they will take a mile."
We gave that inch, now we are trying to stop the mile.

Not In God's Kingdom!!!!!!
Not In God's Kingdom!!!!!!!!!!

New Political Language
May I present the President and the Frist Gentleman????????????????????????????????????

Spitzer in NYS
seems interested in promoting same sex marriage. Ugh!

Nice try, blasterboy
"Attacking homosexuals"? That would be the distraction tactic. For the history of this country, homosexual relationships have not been considered to qualify for matrimony. Homosexuals want that changed. Those who want things to remain as they have been are "attacking"? A person who decides to eat lunch in the middle of a freeway is not attacked by the traffic.

marriage amendments
i am so sick and tired of various groups trying to manipulate my opinion and my vote. as for blasterboy: not everybody is "attacking homosexuals. Homosexuality is not yet, and never will be, accepted as the 'norm' in any society, I don't care how much they scream and yell for equal rights. If two people share a home, and they each want to provide for the other in case of death or illness, there should be no problem. Just fill in the box that's marked "Name of Beneficiary". But, to demand that homosexuals be entitled to equal rights because they are homosexuals, hmm, no, not going to happen. Is that considered an attack on homosexuals? So be it. This homosexual whining sounds exactly like what the Islamists sound like if they even hear the name of Mohammed whispered by anyone other than a Muslim.

hmmm.....
If the statements about wanting benificiary rights for unmarried dependant individuals is correct shouldn't you be pressing for such legislation instead of focusing all your energy on attacking homosexuals?
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