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Sunday, July 15, 2007
George Will :: Townhall.com Columnist
Farewell, Antioch
by George Will
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WASHINGTON -- During the campus convulsions of the late 1960s, when rebellion against any authority was considered obedience to every virtue, the film "To Die in Madrid," a documentary about the Spanish Civil War, was shown at a small liberal arts college famous for, and vain about, its dedication to all things progressive. When the film's narrator intoned, "The rebels advanced on Madrid," the students, who adored rebels and were innocent of information, cheered. Antioch College in Yellow Springs, Ohio, had been so busy turning undergraduates into vessels of liberalism and apostles of social improvement that it had not found time for the tiresome task of teaching them tedious facts, such as that the rebels in Spain were Franco's fascists.

That illustrates why it is heartening that Antioch will close after the 2007-08 academic year. Its board of trustees says the decision is to "suspend operations" and it talks dottily about reviving the institution in 2012. There is, however, a minuscule market for what Antioch sells for a tuition, room and board of $35,221 -- repressive liberalism unleavened by learning.

Founded in 1852 -- its first president was Horace Mann -- Antioch was, for a while, admirable. One of the first colleges to enroll women and blacks, it was a destination for escaped slaves. Its alumni include Stephen Jay Gould, Coretta Scott King and Rod Serling, whose "Twilight Zone" never imagined anything weirder than what Antioch became when its liberalism curdled.

In 1972-73, Antioch had 2,470 students. In 1973, a protracted and embittering student and employee strike left the campus physically decrepit and intellectually toxic. By 1985, enrollment was down 80 percent. This fall there may be 300 students served by a faculty of 40.

In 1993, Antioch became an international punch line when it wrote rules to insure that all sexual conduct would be consensual, step by minute step: "If the level of sexual intimacy increases during an interaction ... the people involved need to express their clear verbal consent before moving to that new level." Does consent to a touch cover a caress? Is there consent regarding all the buttons?

Although laughable, Antioch was not funny. Former public radio correspondent Michael Goldfarb matriculated at what he calls the "sociological petri dish" in 1968. In his first week, he twice had guns drawn on him, once "in fun" and once by a couple of drunken ex-cons "whom one of my classmates, in the interest of breaking down class barriers, had invited to live with her." A true Antiochian still, Goldfarb says: "I do think I was made stronger for having to deal with these experiences."

Steven Lawry -- Antioch's fifth president in 13 years -- came to the college 18 months ago. He told Scott Carlson of The Chronicle of Higher Education about a student who left after being assaulted because he wore Nike shoes, symbols of globalization. Another left because, she told Lawry, the political climate was suffocating: "They all think they are so different, but they are just a bunch of conformists."

Carlson reports that Lawry stopped the student newspaper's practice of printing "announcements containing anonymous, menacing threats against other students for their political views." Antioch likes to dabble in menace: It invited Mumia Abu-Jamal to deliver its 2000 commencement speech, which he recorded on death row in a Pennsylvania prison, where he lives because 26 years ago he shot a Philadelphia police officer first in the back, then three times in the face. Antioch's invitation was its way of saying ... what?

In an essay in the Chronicle, Cary Nelson, Antioch class of 1967 and now a professor of English at the University of Illinois, waxes nostalgic about the fun he had spending, as Antioch students did, much time away from campus, receiving academic credits. What Nelson calls "my employee resistance to injustice" got him "released from almost every job I had until I became a faculty member." But "my little expenditure was never noticed" when "I used some of Lyndon Johnson's anti-poverty money" to bus anti-Vietnam war protesters from Harlem to Washington.

Given that such was Antioch's idea of "work experience" in the "real world," it is unsurprising that the college never produced an alumni cohort capable of enlarging the college's risible $36 million endowment. Besides, the college seems always to have considered raising money beneath its dignity, given its nobility.

"Ben & Jerry could have named a new flavor for us," says John Feinberg, class of 1970 and president of the alumni board, with a melancholy sense of unfulfilled destiny. His lament for a forfeited glory is a suitable epitaph for Antioch.

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Antioch going away
Great news. Maybe Oberlin is next!

Antioch College
My alma mater, Westmar College, Le Mars, Iowa, died of the same "cancer" on Dec. 31, 1996, as is Antioch College.

Westmar was once considered the bastion of Evangelicalism for the Evangelical United Brethren Denomination (now United Methodist).

At the time of my graduation (1963), it was already suffering from the onslaughts of Neo-Orthodoxy and Liberalism in theology. I was amazed that it took another 33 years to die.

Neo-Orthodoxy/Liberalism,Socialism,cannot bring life to any organization.

I DO NOT say the above with ANY sense of joy.

Capitalism again trumps socialism...
...yet again. In the marketplace of ideas, Antioch failed the consumer and paid the price. Its's refreshing to see that extremism - of any idea or philosophy - will not be supported by consumers. There will always be a place for small, liberal arts colleges (I hope) who offer a balanced cirriculum and excellence of instruction. However, when indoctrination replaces education, I wish all such institutions a fate such as Antioch's.

Cheers,

Ron Albright

http://www.ronalbright.com

All I remember about
Antioch College is a band called Mad River, which released one album in 1968, which had a cut called "Amphetamine Gazelle".

Maybe Duke is next
I know. That's probably just a fantasy of mine. But in both cases you have faculty on the left who refuse to acknowledge mistakes. It sounds like no one on the Antioch faculty ever acknowledged that those dating rules were a big mistake. Instead, they just whine about how they have been betrayed by the administration. But if your enrollments are falling, you have to do something. And I understand that Duke's are down as well, but this hasn't inspired those 88 professors to give an apology.

By the way, Will neglected to mention the Asian gay guy who transferred to Antioch thinking he'd find a more accepting place, but transferred out again very quickly. Pretty pathetic.

The Passing of Antioch
Hopefully, the products of this institution and others like it will eventually lose their hold on our media and educational system. Sanity needs a revival in the US - soon!

Where Was Michael Moore?
If it ever needed a friend, where were they? Soros, Moore, Striesand, Reid, Pelosi, Jorge Bush, U.S. Department of Education, teacher unions? What are we as a nation coming to? This is sickening. It is good that the Antioch message has gotten out to the thousands of colleges and elementary and secondary schools.

my 2 cents
There Is a God. He works in His own way and in His own time but

There Is a God.

Rich - Nice post.

JFP - Wishful thinking, but I'm afraid we'll have to settle for their losing basketball games at the last second. Which we DON'T have to watch on TV. Their coach, coach K, should have resigned when those kids got shafted, but he didn't.

Don't forget the bible story of the one good man left in a city which God was going to destroy.

There Is a God and we Will get through this.

On our knees.

Back in the Seventies
when I was a law enforcement student at Hocking Technical College (now Hocking College) in Nelsonville, OH, our campus was routinely invaded by protestors of the type P.J. O'Rourke has referred to as the PIAE crowd- Perennially Indignant About Everything. We law enforcement students were an especial source of irritation for this lot- after all, we were, in their vernacular, "P.I.T.s"- Pigs In Training (also rendered as "Baby Pigs"). It was quite common for anywhere up to two or three hundred of these "enlightened ones" to invade our quiet little campus on a weekly basis (in good weather) to vent their ire re their latest "crusade-of-the-week".

I still remember the time in May of 1977 when about that many staged a "sit-in" in every stairwell in the building, waving (and "accidentally" hitting people with) signs mounted on pieces of steel pipe. Their reason? They were protesting.... the B-1 bomber, that Jimmy Carter was about to cancel. I am unable to forget them singing "Stopp The B-1 Bommber, Wee Shall Nott Bee Moovedd!"- just a flattened fifth off-key. (Although for the sake of my musical appreciation ability, I've certainly tried.)

Most of a typical crowd of the PIAE lot consisted of "students' from OU- Athens, about 25 miles down U.S. 33 from us. But there was usually at least a few from the PoliSci department from OSU up in Columbus- and invariably about 10% of the "intellectuals" there were from Antioch. Which is a H**l of a long way from Nelsonville, by Central Ohio standards.

The reason we never got to run them off our campus?

1. The school administration were afraid of lawsuits, and not only prohibited Campus Police from even doing crowd control, wouldn't call the Hocking County Sheriff's Department either.

2. The OU and Antioch elements were always accompanied by faculty members from their schools- who organized and led these little "field trips".


Don't go away mad, Antioch. (You've been mad- in both senses of the word- for at least forty-five years.)

Just go away.


cheers

eon

eon
Good post. Thanks.

Remember S.W.I.N.E.? (Students Wildly Indignant About Nearly Everything?)

Remember Hyideelisport?

Al Capp - where are you when we need you?

Oh. You died. Sorry.

But you are fondly remembered.



One more thing: "The school administration were afraid of lawsuits." They and a lot of others but if at one point someone were to say enough is enough and called their bluff what do you (and everyone else out there) think might happen?

Farewell Antioch
I think it could easily be shown that what has happened at Antioch is symptomatic of a large number of colleges and universities in America today.
These colleges put out students who have no idea of what the "work ethic" is and therefore often fail at life itself.
The reason; Liberal Leftists, Socialists, etc. have taken over our education system from grammar school through college. The result is that they have created a "gimmee" society who is self-centered, government dependent and in many cases, worthless louts.

Antioch will not be missed.
The far left has much to much influence in higher education. After several decades in a University it seems to me the left has been destructive of standards of all sorts, including overall university standards.

The is too much Antioch in too many institutions.

Bill
One of the points to be made here is that sooner or later the left will turn on itself and self-destruct, as happened at Antioch. It will take time but it will happen.

That clown in Colorado, Churchill - how many of his one time students do you think respect him anymore?

It's known as the real world.

Goldfarb's Guns
Michael Goldfarb had guns pulled on him "in fun" by excons? Of course if someone had pulled a gun on his excon friends in self defense there'd be calls for that persons head. Great University, NOT.

College Protest
Of course, none of the S.W.I.N.E. or P.I.A.E. college students protesting had to face anything as tiresome as actual schoolwork during all of those protests. Beyond the ability to generate a near constant sense of self-righteous indignation, the college student at a protest has very few demands placed upon them. It is almost a carnival atmosphere -- the only thing you need is someone selling cotton candy and sno-cones. If, as the Antioch board member wished, Ben and Jerry were to dedicate a new flavor in their honor, how about lacing bubblegum-flavored ice cream with ipecac -- an emetic given to poisoning victims to produce full-scale vomiting -- named, of course, "Syrup of Antioch."

Hal0 -- Antioch Grad?

How many times have we seen the liberal crowd throw the word "fascist" at any and every political point with which they disagree? And the best comment you can offer in rebuttal to Mr. Will is that he was imprecise in his use of the word "fascist"? Pretty lame.

The point is that these Antioch-educated students could not discern the political leanings of the rebels in the Spanish Civil War. Literally every one of the sub-groups you've identified -- Catholic nationalists, royalists (Alfonsine and Carlist), right-wing pro-capitalists from CEDA, etc. -- represent views antithetical to the "progressive" mold.

Will's leading point concerning the lack of education at Antioch stands intact. Your "rebuttal" only punctuates it.

Brilliant column by Will
:: One more thing: "The school administration were afraid of lawsuits." They and a lot of others but if at one point someone were to say enough is enough and called their bluff, what do you (and everyone else out there) think might happen? ::

The ACLU or someone similar would sue. What I don't understand is why some university doesn't **countersue**? For private property damage, trespassing, creating a "threatening environment", and anything else they can think of. Threatening to take *their* money is the only way to get the ACLU's attention.


HalO:
You're an idiot, plain and simple. Franco was clearly a fascist. Not least of at because anyone that stays as "king" (aka dictator) for LIFE is certainly not a democratic nor republican (*little* d and r) leader.

Yellow Springs heritage--Antioch College
I have been waiting for the first shoe to drop in the college crowded educational game. Now that we have the heritage of the 60's beginning to disassemble in bankruptcy we can expect numerous more educational experiments to flounder badly.

The political correctness of this debacle from the post WWII refugees and kids from those happy sexuality days filtered thru even the high and mighty eastern universities are ending.

They have been turning out PC wrong headed ideas and poor leadership bureaucrats for industry and governments alike since then. In the end the chickens end up in the frying pan or head for the woods to survive the hawks and wild hunters needing feed to nourish their own chicks in a different era. You see, we are now in the final stages of Political Correctness in our domestic and international political games. After the 2008 elections, the war with Islam, etc they will begin fade into the dwindling social security checks to an early demise from the exhuberant drug and anxiety days of their youth. Its over!

HalO / Re: Clarification, please...
HalO writes: "...Francisco Franco, the greatest national leader of the 20th century."


Just out of curiosity, are you suggesting that Franco was the "greatest national leader" of SPAIN during the 20th century, or do you mean to declare that he was the greatest national leader in ALL THE WORLD during the 20th century?


Antioch College
In response to George Will’s column of 7/15/07 concerning the demise of Antioch College:





Dear Mr. Will,



I read with interest your article in The New York Post expressing your satisfaction at the imminent closing of Antioch College. As the parent of a fourth-year Antioch Student, I would like to comment.



Antioch’s demise is not occurring because of its so-called liberal focus. Instead, it is closing because of blatant mis-management by a board of trustees who never once indicated that there was a serious financial problem until the very day of the announcement that the campus will shut down on July 1, 2008.



I am a card-carrying member of the establishment, working as a staffer for one of the nation’s largest banks. I do this to support myself and my daughter, for whom I have been a single parent since she was in kindergarten.



Along the way, I managed to raise a typical American teenager. Although she went to one of the best high schools in the United States, she drifted through her teenage years, making only barely adequate grades, and getting into more trouble than I would have liked.



That high school did manage to give her a passion for the backstage aspects of theater, however. Perhaps following me around as I followed my avocation as a singer in the chorus of a major American symphony orchestra, was a partial inspiration, as well. At any rate, a career in the arts became her goal.



When the time came to apply for college, she somehow managed to be a sought-after candidate by several colleges with great theater programs. One college in Chicago accepted only 6 applicants, and she was one of them.



But she turned them all down, and chose Antioch because “I want to get an education, not just do theater.” And she has. Antioch’s program, which runs year-round, requires 5 co-op semesters and 7 intense academic semesters.



The college was run (well, except for the fact that the trustees weren’t forthcoming about the finances) by the Antioch Community, consisting of students, staff and faculty. All had a voice at the regular campus meetings. This was a valuable lesson in American democracy from a school which was the first to pay female professors the same as male ones (and this prior to the Civil War), the first to offer the identical educational program to women that was offered to men (other “first” co-ed colleges offered more ladylike programs) and one of the first to give full equality to African-American students.



Classes at Antioch, except for math and science classes, are not lecture classes. Instead, these small sessions (average class size is 12) are discussion-based. There are no grades. Instead, each student receives a thoughtful one- or two-page written evaluation from their professor, which I consider to be much more valuable for the student than a letter grade.



Antioch has produced an impressive number of winners of the MacArthur “genius” awards, with only perhaps Harvard and Yale having more alumni in that group. In the last 20 years, something like 90% of Antioch grads who have applied to medical schools have been accepted, and 100% of those who applied to veterinary colleges made the grade. The number of Antiochians who go on to PhD degrees is one of the highest in the nation.



My daughter has turned into a scholar and a thinker in her life at Antioch. She managed to take heavier-than usual course loads and will finish a semester early, graduating in April as part of what we hope will not be the last graduating class at Antioch. To date, she has an impressive professional resume, having worked for at least five professional theater companies in Yellow Springs, Cincinnati, Chicago and San Francisco.



Antioch has given her knowledge, learning and professional direction. She has learned to care for her fellow man and for the planet. Her horizons have been expanded so much more widely than would have been possible at the typical American college, where curricula have been “dumbed down” to accommodate larger student bodies, and more than in the larger American colleges (such as the one I attended, Syracuse), where the focus is on career training to the exclusion of scholarship and thought.



One final note, concerning the sexual behavior policy at Antioch, which seems to be taken as a big joke by the media: it was, to my understanding, developed by students, not by the college, and seems to me to be a sensible way to deal with the problem of sexual harassment and date rape which seems to plague many other college campuses these days. It’s not a joke. It’s a serious reaction to a serious problem, and it seems to have worked.



Antioch College may not have produced a lot of alumni who make a lot of money. Instead, it produced graduates who make a difference.



In addition to the large checks I write to the college for my daughter’s education, I’ve also written a large check to the alumni group who is attempting to save the school. I suggest that you might want to do a little more homework about Antioch so that you might be inclined to do the same.



Sincerely,



Christine Wands

Cincinnati, Ohio

cmwands
While I understand your allegiance to Antioch you most certainly missed the point of the column. It isn't about mismanaging funds. It's about serious lack of enrollment due to an insane campus and curriculum. Without the enrollment there is no funds despite your checks.

HalO
What is scary is that you actually believe your comment about Franco. Only someone who never lived in that kind of bloodbath would say something that ridiculous or ignorant. Furthermore only someone who lives in America can stay out of jail with comments such as those. I imagine there are few Spainairds that would take exception to your comments.

Good Riddence
Antioch is the pit of pits.

I lived in Dayton (about 20 miles away) during the 1970s. During the Vietnam War, students were wearing blankets, sheets, tablecloths.

Why any parent would spend $35k annually so their child would haste four years of his/her life is beyond me.

Response to Anitioch Parent
I'm sure you are sincere in believing you sent your daughter to a fine college. But as an Ohioan who is familiar with Antioch, I know that the college hasn't had any "real world" relevance in many, many decades. I'm glad your daughter is doing well with her career in theater, but she succeeded in spite of her college education and not because of it.

Now let's hope that Oberlin, Bard and Evergreen are next on the indoctrination camp extinction list.

cmwands
Dear Ms. Wands:
Enrollment at Antioch was declining. Whenever enrollment at a college is declining, things aren't good. Try placing the blame on someone other than the administrators, ok? Anyway, who were the administrators? Weren't they just as progressive as everyone else? Weren't most of them promoted from within? It's funny how even at a left-wing college, the administrators are, in the eyes of everyone else there, on the right and therefore evil.

As for the dating rules, no matter who made them up they were a bad idea, from the college's point of view. They showed to prospective male students that men were facing an even more hostile environment at Antioch than anywhere else, and they showed to women interested in meeting a man that it wasn't likely to happen at Antioch. As far as I can tell, enrollment took a hit after those rules were instituted and they never recovered.

Even more deeply, those rules showed the limitations of progressive thought. For who were those rules aimed at? Men. Why was that? Because men have a certain role in courtship. But I thought feminists wanted to eliminate all roles, so why are those roles still around? I've never gotten a satisfactory answer to that one, one that doesn't make feminists look terrible.

I'm sure your daughter believes that she has learned to care about her fellow man and our planet. What this translates into is, "I want to promote social justice and to stop global warming." Regarding the first, what they didn't teach her about social justice is that different political perspectives define this differently. For libertarians, social injustice is the government stealing your money and giving it to someone else. For conservative Christians, it is (for example) the fact that hate speech does not apply to hate speech directed at Christians. For reactionary Muslims, it is the fact that shari'a, which they see as God's rules and as opposed to democracy, which is merely man's rules, is not instituted everywhere. There is no commonly held view of social injustice, so why choose one over another?

As for global warming and environmentalism generally, she was never taught anything about this except a certain perspective, a perspective in which environmentalists are good and anyone who opposes them is bad. It never has occurred to anyone taking this perspective that they impose costs willy nilly on people and that they don't care where those costs fall. If they impose a huge hardship on a poor person (as annual vehicle inspections once did for me when I was poor), well that is tough. They don't care.

It might be years before your daughter figures these things out, if ever, and she will be all the poorer for it.

Antioch going bye-bye
I grew up near Yellow Springs. For those who know the area, I still like to walk the paths of John Bryan and Clifton Gorge. But Antioch NEEDED to die a peaceful death. Its an example of what happens when a good college goes bad, and it will happen to others--its unavoidable.

I guess the only thing Yellow Springs can claim now is that comedian Dave Chappelle is a part-time resident there.

By the way, cmwands
Suppose your daughter was up for a job, and another woman like her was also being considered. Suppose the major difference between the two women was that the other woman came from a poor background and couldn't afford to go to high-priced Antioch. She went to the cheapest place she could find.

Who deserves the job more?

I know many people like your daughter, and in spite of their progressive credentials, they believe that they deserve the job more, because they went to the better school. Never mind that one needs to be rich to go to the better school and that this is just a way of spitting on the poor, they still think they deserve the job more. How is that caring for her fellow man?

Of course, your daughter might be one of the rare ones who is truly progressive and who would be willing to say that the other woman deserves it more or that it should be settled by a coin toss. But then the money spent on Antioch could have been spent in a better way, right?

The free market rules!
Let this be a lesson to all of you Socialists out there!

Antioch failed to provide its customers with a product of value, and it goes out of business.

Or maybe you can wheedle a "Fairness Doctrine for Academia" and argue that the government should pay to keep that hole open, "to present alternate viewpoints."

When will you clowns learn? This story is of a piece with the history of commercial Leftist talk radio, like Air America. Your foolish ideas cannot survive on their own, they need government force to maintain them. Without it, people can exercise their own good sense, and you wither and die.

Good riddance!

Hillary delenda est.

A leftist bashes Antioch
I just got the latest Chronicle of Higher Education, and it contains a scathing account of the demise of Antioch by one of its alums, Ralph Keyes. He graduated in 1967 and went back there two decades later with his wife, also an alum, to help the college out. They were appalled by the experience. Some highlights:

"By the early 1990s, its once-packed library was nearly deserted. The campus itself was beyond seedy. Some buildings were crumbling, others vandalized...."

"Antioch's president at the time told me that nearly half of its students smoked, twice the national rate."

When he was a student there, Keyes notes that "I felt constantly challenged to justify my points of view. But I didn't assume that reassessing those views would move me to the left. It might move me to the right, or toward the center, or nowhere at all.
The Antioch [my wife] and I returned to did not emphasize that kind of open inquiry. The assumed endpoint was always to one's left."

"When a longtime history professor reminded colleagues that Antioch was a college and not a boot camp for the revolution, students began wearing Boot Camp for the Revolution T-shirts."

"A highly critical accreditation report was put under lock and key with only a scrubbed precis being circulated on campus."

"Turnover was constant at all levels of Antioch's administration."

"Even in the midst of routine discussion, students interrupted each other with angry outbursts. Presumably this was part of 'calling each other out,' a popular campus pastime ('I'm calling you out as a product of privilege,' 'I'm calling you out for wearing Nikes,' etc.)"

In its late-60s-early-70s heyday, the college's enrollment rose to nearly 2,500. By 2007, even as enrollments soared at comparable liberal arts colleges, Antioch's had fallen to about 300 students."

"Eventually I came to feel that donating to my alma mater was a form of enabling."

Malcontent U.
Horace Mann was the first president of Antioch College. His and other abolitionists' passions led to 600,000 American deaths, while Antioch was a Syrian city garrisoned by Alexander's troops, who kept order in a den of commercial iniquity.

That college's cornerstone might well have read: Founded by juxtaposing incongruous elements, 1852.

Civil War loomed but Mann was a pacifist with an impressive resume. He'd introduced the Prussian educational system to Massachusetts, and kids there did learn to obey orders and show papers; however, the protocol upset Ohio stomachs, and it took a century for Antioch students to decide that coke and meth calmed more tummies than Tums.

When later in life Mann championed progressive education, critis said they preferred Prussian style -- painful learning is better than none.
I recall a victim of Mann's methods who saved a college career with a calculator; however, there are no calculators for punctuation, so he used a comma, period, whatever, every fourth word. Then he sensibly chose The Law as his profession.

Shifting gears: I admire Mr. Will but I must take issue with his use of "fascist." Reexamining the structure of the paragraph, I feel he was being deliberately ambivalent in order to placate his critics, who call him a (horrors!) Red-Stater.

In those years Catholics waged a propaganda war, siding with "rebels" who were fighting "godless communism." Spain's allegedly Popular Front was an axis of evil -- socialists, communists and anarchists. Memory tells me that Mussolini's fascism was state socialism, while the "national socialism" of Hitler's was an Il Duce variant. Many times communists use terms like "fascist" to prove their bona fides...but George Will?

Our liberals (AKA Popular Front) still whine about the Spanish Civil War, and they'll never forget the ousting of Allende, that "popularly elected" Chilean leader, who garnered a mere 30 percent of the vote. That fact is glossed over by liberals, who are more devoted to their cause than Muslims. Their leaders were (are) Norman Mailer, Hannah Ahrens and others, and they call their unit, "The Church." They've made you forget your own religion, but they will never forsake theirs. Think of them as latter-day zealots.

In conclusion> I have some sad news to report: Antioch supporters promise the college will rise from the ashes by 2012. Shall we test the power of prayer by asking for an earthquake in Yellow Springs, OH? Standing or kneeling, let us pray.

Malcontent U.
Horace Mann was the first president of Antioch College. His and other abolitionists' passions led to 600,000 American deaths, while Antioch was a Syrian city garrisoned by Alexander's troops, who kept order in a den of commercial iniquity.

That college's cornerstone might well have read: Founded by juxtaposing incongruous elements, 1852.

Civil War loomed but Mann was a pacifist with an impressive resume. He'd introduced the Prussian educational system to Massachusetts, and kids there did learn to obey orders and show papers; however, the protocol upset Ohio stomachs, and it took a century for Antioch students to decide that coke and meth calmed more tummies than Tums.

When later in life Mann championed progressive education, critis said they preferred Prussian style -- painful learning is better than none.
I recall a victim of Mann's methods who saved a college career with a calculator; however, there are no calculators for punctuation, so he used a comma, period, whatever, every fourth word. Then he sensibly chose The Law as his profession.

Shifting gears: I admire Mr. Will but I must take issue with his use of "fascist." Reexamining the structure of the paragraph, I feel he was being deliberately ambivalent in order to placate his critics, who call him a (horrors!) Red-Stater.

In those years Catholics waged a propaganda war, siding with "rebels" who were fighting "godless communism." Spain's allegedly Popular Front was an axis of evil -- socialists, communists and anarchists. Memory tells me that Mussolini's fascism was state socialism, while the "national socialism" of Hitler's was an Il Duce variant. Many times communists use terms like "fascist" to prove their bona fides...but George Will?

Our liberals (AKA Popular Front) still whine about the Spanish Civil War, and they'll never forget the ousting of Allende, that "popularly elected" Chilean leader, who garnered a mere 30 percent of the vote. That fact is glossed over by liberals, who are more devoted to their cause than Muslims. Their leaders were (are) Norman Mailer, Hannah Ahrens and others, and they call their unit, "The Church." They've made you forget your own religion, but they will never forsake theirs. Think of them as latter-day zealots.

In conclusion> I have some sad news to report: Antioch supporters promise the college will rise from the ashes by 2012. Shall we test the power of prayer by asking for an earthquake in Yellow Springs, OH? Standing or kneeling, let us pray.

A simple question
Let's have a show of hands. How many of you who posted on Will's column knew anything specific about Antioch College before you read his piece?
How many of you are denouncing it and celebraating its demise soley because of what Will told you?

How many other topics do you deal with in this same way?

Closing of Antioch College
In 1962 or -63 I was doing business with a small but successful buisiness-to-business ad agency in Yellow Springs, Ohio, home of Antioch College. One day several from the ad agency and I went to the Antioch student union for lunch. We were surrounded with the great unwashed with lots of ban-the-bomb t-shirts in evidence. I slipped out for a moment to my car, slipped on a sweatshirt then replaced my suit jacket. I then returned to the lunch table, and while still standing slowly rmoved my suit jacket exposing my Goldwater sweatshirt. The ensuing boos and catcalls were deafening.

A bit of irony: seated at another table nearby with some older gentlemen was none other than Charles Kettering, that powerful capitalist and retired General Motors executive, an exemplar of all the students held in low esteem. Kettering lived in nearby Dayton.

Robert N. Sillars

Antioch lost
I was enrolled briefly at Antioch in 1984-'85 in a "self-generated" MFA program, where--and you think they the school wasn't interested in money--I paid $1500 every three months while I "wrote" my curriculum. I wanted to research how short stories and novels in the horror genre are adapted for film (video). My "adviser" never accepted any proposal I made, disparaged readings such as Poe's The Grotesque and Arabesque, and constantly told me the best thing I could do was enroll in courses at Rutgers in my home state of NJ that Antioch would accept as transfers. If I wanted to attend RU, I would've enrolled at RU. My "life experience" in teaching on the secondary- and college-levels for 15 years, including film and video classwork, local stage work in such shows as Dracula--were never approved for credits. I invested nine months and $4500 (plus two plane trips to Ohio) in Antioch for nothing. In 1987, I was contacted by the Antioch board to write a history of my association with the college, as part of a required evaluation being made by its accrediting committee (here it's MidAtlantic Accredidation). I was not flattering and am more than mildly surprised that the institution lasted another 20 years.

Antioch College-Be Ashamed to Let It Die
I'm a 1963 Antioch College alum, proud of my college despite George Will (July 15). Will says Antioch sells "repressive liberalism unleavened by learning." Antioch produced Coretta Scott King and scientist Stephen Jay Gould. I was a classmate of Gould's; Antioch was scorned for its liberalism back then too.

Antioch's cooperative (work-study program) started in 1921. It rotates on-campus study with jobs off, enriching classroom learning with work experience. Will calls the small endowment proof co-op education has failed -- it didn’t turn out CEOs who can give millions.

But Antioch students have been inspired by founder Horace Mann's words, "Be ashamed to die until you have won some victory for humanity." Alumni have been drawn to community service, not the corporate ladder.

The big mistake was establishing Antioch University in the '70s, adding satellite campuses around the U.S. Many college alumni, myself included, feel the satellite system was a financial drain. Compounding this, the University Board of Trustees was given jurisdiction over all branches -- including that of Antioch College itself. It is the University Board that voted to close the college.

Will says students feel coerced into political correctness. That's regrettable, though not unusual at campuses today. Yet I've met many intelligent, well-spoken students in D.C. on "co-op." One stayed with my husband and myself while working as an intern.

Alumni are not ready to write Antioch's epitaph. We’re organizing to raise funds earmarked for the college alone, and to negotiate the establishment of an independent college Board of Trustees.

Our slogan is, "Be ashamed to let it die!" George Will should be ashamed for rejoicing in the closure of this historic and idealistic school.

Rochelle Hollander Schwab
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