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Monday, February 05, 2007
Harry R. Jackson, Jr. :: Townhall.com Columnist
Change or Die: Fighting Radical Islam
by Harry R. Jackson, Jr.
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I left the U.S. on my way to sunny South Africa for a conference a week ago. During my day long stopover in London, I read the most shocking headline, Young British Muslims Get More Radical. This article made three amazing pronouncements based a study done by a UK-based think tank:

• 1 out of 8 young British Muslims admire Al-Qaeda

• 40% want Sharia law in Britain

• 75% want women to wear veils.

The article was of special interest to me because I had just attended a briefing concerning "the threat" of modern Islam. The summit leaders emphasized that the conflict between Islam and the West would increase in intensity over the next few years. The advance of Islamic political influence in the West must be fought aggressively because of its close association with terrorism.

The article’s concluded that younger Muslim Britons are becoming more radical, but also that many second generation UK citizens do not see England as a secular “promised land” for their people. In fact, radical young Muslims want to set up self-ruling enclaves where Sharia law would supercede the laws of England.

If Sharia law were allowed to reign in a Muslim "ghetto" within London, grizzly practices of amputations, beheadings, and other unthinkable atrocities would be carried out in the name of justice. Radicals would attempt to take over the nation - one community at a time. They would use bully politics and intimidation to push their agenda. For example, we marveled at the threats against the Pope last year because he alluded to Islam's irrational, violent behavior. Widespread acceptance of Sharia law within the UK would simply fuel this conflict. The UK must resist this kind of vigilante justice. It would be worse than allowing the KKK to set up an alternative court system in downtown Atlanta or Los Angeles.

Many are willing to give into "cultural differences" because they fear the consequences of denying radical Islamic requests. In addition, UK leaders are fearful of appearing prejudiced. Despite the timid responses of both local and national government, a showdown has already begun. Just two days after this article appeared, police uncovered an alleged plot to behead a British soldier who happens to be Muslim.

During the skirmish, the suspect is reported to have described a young soldier as a “traitor,” adding that "he should have his head chopped off." After authorities questioned the nine men who were arrested, detectives discovered computer files that are said to contain images of western hostages being executed by Al-Qaeda sympathizers. Some of the material seems to be linked to extremist Islamic websites which call British Muslims in the military "collaborators" and that they should be "punished for fighting their Muslim brothers."

Four of the detainees are reported to have visited Islamic extremists at a Pakistan terrorist training camp. It is thought that the plot to kidnap and then film the torture and execution of a Muslim soldier was contrived at that camp.

The average westerner has not fully understood the either the violence or complexity of the Islamic worldview. Politics and faith are inextricably connected in the mind of an Islamic radical.

In Christianity, governments are charged with waging wars, while individuals are called to a lifestyle of personal peace and nonviolence. Conversely, many Muslims have taken up the call to personal violence as art of their faith. Therefore, suicide bombings, rioting, persecution of non-believers, and other atrocities are all part of their personal choices.

This clash of worldviews is further complicated for most Britons because they believe in the same melting pot concept that Americans believe - that all cultures can be mixed together to form something beautiful, something new. The problem with multi-culturalism is that it ignores the fact that every nation needs its own unifying set of values, principles, and corporate "soul."

There is a widespread disconnect between the current cultural reality and way the UK would like to treat people. At a recent conference on World Civilization-Clash of Civilizations, the problem of traditional, English thinking was exposed. Several of the participants wrongly described Islamic terror attacks as "reprisal events." In their thinking, these violent outbursts need to be understood rather than condemned. Even the mayor of London has become a proponent of this theory. He has gone as far as to host receptions for radical Islamic theologians like Yusuf al-Qardawi. (A cleric who believes Muslims must not hesitate to use their children as human bombs).No other minority in England would be allowed to spout off such incendiary rhetoric.

Here are some of the factors that complicate the inclusive posture of the UK:

• 1 in 20 Londoners are of mixed race.

• Over 300 languages are spoken in London.

• 62 % of today's Londoners are not UK-born - this implies that immigrants do not have a lot of English history to draw upon as they learn the strange new ways of the British world headquarters.

In this context, how can anyone single out one group and call them evil? Conversely, one immigrant group should not dominate the entire nation. Radical Islam is a unique threat to the freedoms that the average Briton has come to accept.

It's time for America to learn from the problems we see exhibited in the UK. The U.S. must be more vigilant than ever before to inform our citizens of the threat that radical Islam holds to our entire way of life. I am thankful that FOX and other cable networks are producing specials which give hard facts about the world in which we live. The social climate in America appears to be only five or six years behind the UK. Let's change now! Let's resist the advance of radical Islam by speaking truth about its motives.

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Bishop Harry Jackson is chairman of the High Impact Leadership Coalition and senior pastor of Hope Christian Church in Beltsville, MD, and co-authored, Personal Faith, Public Policy [FrontLine; March 2008] with Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council.

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Keep running the race
Mr Jackson

I just want to encourage you to keep it coming!! Don't look at their faces, just keep speaking what you have been told.

Sawgunner's phoney phacts
Sawgunner writes: Monday, February, 05, 2007 1:25 PM
Misterfact - a misnomer
Disarmed Iraqi cilivians eh? The "fact" is that Iraqi civilians are allowed to own multiple AK-47 fully automatic assault rifles to use for their self-defense.

misterfact replies:
AK-47s;Big deal! A handgun is a lot better defensive weapon at small range. Innocent Iraqis can't even carry them on the street for self protection when they have to go to the store!

The weapons are not supposed to be toted outside of the residence, though indiscreet useage by neighborhood militias that patrol their own streets is tolerated. Handguns on the other hand, are easy to conceal, and have been used to kill many soldiers in crowded street conditions. Thus, your argument against Americans et al was based on a fallacy.

misterfact:I think you are a liar! Name me ONE American troop killed by a small calibre handgun! The weapons of choice by terrorists are i.e.d.s and rifles! Maybe ONE US troop has been killed or wounded with a lucky shot that missed the flak jacket and helmet. Never saw anything on the news that said small calibre handguns are a threat to US forces. Nice try!

Perhaps your true complaint with America is its total economic and social dominance over whatever lickspittle country it is that you happen to infest.

misterfact:If any American troop came to my littlespittle country and tried to take my handgun from me- I'de shoot the son-of-a-bittch! I think Iraqis have the right to do the same. Dis-arming innocent people with their best means of defense is DESPICABLE!

A final word for "Misterfact"; it is best to keep your mouth closed and make others wonder if you are a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

misterfactFools have to make up facts. You don't know crap about what our "wonderful" troops are doing over there! Find me an Iraq vet who went around knocking ON doors and knocking DOWN doors of innocent Iraqis in order to confiscate their handguns- and have HIM explain his actions to us!

If US troops dis-arm the innocent over there- how long before they come to YOUR FRONT DOOR and do the same?!

gunny g
From your name you suggest that you either a retired Marine Gunnery Sgt. or still active. Which is it? Where were you? What did you do?

gunny g
sure sounds like you got your knickers in a twist tonite

perhaps if you step outside, fart at least twice and then say "poop" a few times into the frigid east coast air you will be refreshed with you step back into the room and resume your battle

my work here is done

afn&tt

Radical Islam
Through out American history when out government has failed us individual groups have sprung up to address the failures of our government?

The San Francisco Vigilantes 's comes to mind. Our government was unable to control the lawlessness, corruption and violence so the citizens formed a vigilante group to take care of the problem.

While doing so they also eliminated the corrupt politicians.


Maybe it is prophetic that it was Nancy P.'s district that gave birth to vigilantes.

Perhaps it is time for new Vigilantes.

KC

Not change
As I have mentioned before, the word islam is correctly translated as: surrender to the will of Allah (as defined by us)...

LD=Kimberly
Please NO!!!!!

I think you've just offended them both...

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Misterfact and others
Misterfact, you're head is as empty as your blog.

Hey BMT, quit trying so hard to hold back on how you feel about girlofpearl.

GunnyG - good articles in your blog.

LD, another good one. Like others, it took me a couple of times making an idiot of myself responding to your excellent satirical writings.

Y'all have a good week.

Taproot, freezing my a$$ off up here in Cheesehead country.


JP
Good theory, but Kimberly's posts have a zeal to them that LD lacks. Also, LD's posts are varied, whereas Kimberly's contain the same words over and over (projected, shrill, chimp, etc.). Either way, I agree with you; it's better to let people discover the brilliance of LD on their own.

Radical Islam
Jackson's article is correct.
We need people in congress that have big BALLS (sorry Hillary & Nancy).
We are being governed by a bunch of "girliemen" and if nothing changes, we'll pay down the road.

JP
I agree. It's better to discover the truth about LD on your own.
Just a few weeks ago I was one of the duped.
I finally realized that he stated things a little too clearly to be a real lib.
I was so proud of myself!

ADOLF " GirlofPearl " HITLER
YOU PATHETIC, PSYCHOTIC, IGNORANT, JEW HATING SEWER RAT!

PLEASE Let Loyal Democrat Write W/O.....
Please Don't Expose LD as a satirist. It's more fun fooling the gullible..

I truly believe that LD has an alter ego now. My Theory is that LD and Kimberly are one in the same,compensating to OVERCOME being exposed as a satirist. Think about it!!!

ch47 jockey
Amigo, they lack a set of balls. Hence their inability to deport these vermin.

I say, it's high time for some "cowboys and muslims."

head em up! move em out!

if they like sharia so much
If the Muslims in London like sharia so much why don't the brits who like english law help them out and deport them to a country where sharia is practiced, same for the jokers here in the USA who want it, I would venture a bet that a lot of the people who advocate sharia law in england are there for asylum from a repressive muslim country. WAKE UP western world better DEAD than DHIMMI

Howie, Howie, ease up...
As I said a few minutes ago in a previous post, LD is the resident satirist.

Reread his post and see if you don't 'get it'.

Look to history
http://www.opinionjournal.com/federation/feature/?id=110009312

This link takes you to a great editorial. We have faced a similar threat before, however the big question is whether or not we have the guts to do what needs doing.

To liberalgoodman
Your post made even less sense than it normally does, and that is saying a lot. When the IRA was setting off bombs in London people certainly were saying bad things about the IRA. People were not saying bad things about Catholics because blowing up places in London really had nothing to do with being Catholic in the religious sense. It had to do with political actions going back centuries between the Irish and the English and you of all people should know this. If the Catholic Bible advocated killing all non-Catholics by cutting their head off, and it advocated proselytizing by the sword, and it made provision for Catholitude, AND people were actually following these strictures, then sure we could all commence a common denunciation of Catholicism and initiate war where needed on Catholic countries.

Gregdn
"Taskwazen:
If Islam is the problem, why are we trying to help the Iraqis?"

Because our national leaders are nothing but politicians. They still refuse (or maybe they are too stupid) to understand that we are at war with a religion. We are at war with an army. We are at war with a religion that is also an army. We are at war with the Army of Islam. And that army is 1 Billion strong.

Taskwazen
Loyal Democrat is the Resident Satirist. We all enjoy his tongue-in-cheek posts to the issue.

It takes a couple of his posts sometime before you 'get it'.

All
There have been some great posts today. Others I really wonder about.. To be christian is to be Christ-like. So what would Jesus do? He walked this earth in human form, doing God-things,
healing the sick, raising the dead, calling out demons. But he still called a spade-a-spade. There are Anti-Christs working amongst us. There has always been haters of God.
Might I suggest this website.
http://www.ellisskolfield.com
Very interesting observations on Islam past and present.
Everyone be Blessed!

Loyal Democrat should take a hike
The first blog regard this article is why Lenin called Western liberals 'useful idiots'. His or her blatherings is frightening coming from fellow Americans.

Personally, I believe our nation would be better off if all Muslims were expelled from our shores and each took 10 liberals with them. If loyal dem is not happy with the status quo in our nation then that person should go where they can find happiness,even if it is under the Fertile Crescent worshipping the moon god Hubal AKA Satan.

Hey, call me bigoted. I most certainly am against those that mean us harm. Islam is Islam is Islam. There is no degrees of Islamic faith or the intensity in which the religion is observed and practiced.

Islamic jihadists are nothing more than the military arm of Islam. The reason you don't hear condemnation coming from so called mainstream Islam is that all Muslims practice the religion as written and practiced by Muhammad.

A short trip through the Quran and Haditha reveals the true nature of Muhammad's so called visitation, commands from Allah and resultant atrocities committed against non-Muslims in the name of their cosmic deith.

As for me give me liberty or give me death if I have to take up arms for the cause of American freedom for future generations.

So, loyal democrat martyr yourself if you want, as for me I have not yet begun to fight.

Change or Die
Thank you again for a wake up call for this nation. We must wake up and smell the coffee. Islam whether you want to call it radical or not, is marching across this world and taking over. We must stop bowing down and giving up territory in the name of political correctness.
Politicians are supposed to be well versed in history. Are you studying the way Hitler marched across Europe in the name of Communism and annhilated the Jews while the whole world sat idly by and did nothing until it was too late for so many?
The same thing is happening now and it is going to be up to the Christians to denounce what is a an all out attack against Christianity. Are we going to change or die?

"Moderate" Islam
I agree with other posters that "radical" Islam is a misonmer; all Islam is radical. The only place where "moderate" Islam can be found is in areas where they have not yet gained control--their so-called moderation is in fact lies, as directed by the Koran. Where Islam rules, there is only savagery and brutality. Do you relish the idea of being whipped and imprisoned for drinking or dancing with the opposite sex, as happened to foreigners in Saudi Arabia over the weekend? Then by all means celebrate the cultural diversity of this barbaric death cult and allow them a foothold here.

Foehammer______That is a GREAT site!
Mr. Jackson's wakeup call was long overdue.

I wonder if Islam is compatible with Democracy?
Their religious belief conflicts with our laws.
If their God orders them to disobey our laws then they do not belong on any land governed by our laws.

liberalgoodman wrote:
" Certainly politics and faith are inextricably connected in the mind of a Christian conservative."

Yes. My faith informs my politics. So now the question is to what end. Biblically fundamental Christians are the reason we have freedom of religion and conscience in the US. It was the blood of Baptists and other dissenting biblical fundamentalists against the extra-biblical church state union that brought about the toleration acts in Britain.

So the more "fundamental" and true to the Bible a Christian is, the more likely they are to treasure freedom, secure peace, and individual rights... even if others don't agree with them. The more a "Christian" sect draws from extra-biblical authorities and concepts, the more likely they are to be oppressive. Catholics and other "mainstream" protestant denominations have a history of forced conversion and religious oppression. The fundamentalists condemned by the left in America... have no such history.

OTOH, the more fundamental a Muslim is, the more likely they are to believe that violence is a legitimate way of advancing Islamic jihad. It takes a revisionist who separates Islam from many of its scriptures and from Muhammad himself that teach peace and tolerance.

So yes LG. Because I am a Christian, I would die to defend your right to say no when I exercise my free speech rights in trying to convince you of the truth of the gospel. My Muslim counterpart would accept that you must die or live as a second class citizen with few if any rights since you wouldn't accept the "truth" of Islam.



Bravo!
Harry, I cheered at the end of your article when you clearly defined the threat as only being a few years away. It's great to hear and read more straight thinking on the subject of the Islamic threat, and thankfully there seems to be a rise in the awareness levels of the average American in recent months.

Keep up the great work.

Foehammer
http://foehammer.net

antisemitism
I would like to say that I deplore some of the comments posted here; much of it is based on propaganda that can be shown to be of questionable origin, and incidentally, is often spread by Arab sources. A Lebanese friend once showed me a much-copied and dogeared Protocols.... and didn't like my telling him that it is a notorious forgery.

warrior
Actually, the Hashemite dynasty in Jordan are descentants of the prophet, as is the king of Morocco, but they are not Shi'ia.
But Saddam and the Sauds both tried to squish the Shi'ia, and the Saud Wahhabism is if anything more intolerant than Shi'ism. Just this weekend, the Saudi religious police arrested several hundred foreigners for "partying" and drinking and dancing in mixed couples.

Lebanon is offically governed by a National Compact that includes Maronite Catholics, Sunni, Druze, Shi'ia, Orthodox. Nasrullah's power is through intimidation.

I know many Christian Lebanese who point out that the danger of large expatriate Islamic communities is that one basic principle is that it is not legitimate for Muslims to be ruled by infidels. In the early days of the Islamic expansion, they didn't forcibly convert subjects, because there is no limit to the taxes that can be imposed on dhimmis (which probably encouraged prople to convert!). Think about the implications...

Misterfact - a misnomer
Disarmed Iraqi cilivians eh? The "fact" is that Iraqi civilians are allowed to own multiple AK-47 fully automatic assault rifles to use for their self-defense. The weapons are not supposed to be toted outside of the residence, though indiscreet useage by neighborhood militias that patrol their own streets is tolerated. Handguns on the other hand, are easy to conceal, and have been used to kill many soldiers in crowded street conditions. Thus, your argument against Americans et al was based on a fallacy.

Perhaps your true complaint with America is its total economic and social dominance over whatever lickspittle country it is that you happen to infest.

A final word for "Misterfact"; it is best to keep your mouth closed and make others wonder if you are a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

itcanbedone asked
> So how do we communicate Jesus as God's Son to a
> huge segmnet of this world's population that
> denies the Deity of Christ?

The technical answer is called "apologetics". And no it doesn't mean to apologize, it comes from the greek apologia and means "a defense". The schools of apologetics provide all the ammo you need -- for anyone who is really open to hearing you. And for those who are not -- they are not.

Abu Daboo Doo al Bedrocki
2003 Estimates for literacy rates for total population. Keep in mind that rate for FEMALES in Muslim countries is approx HALF of the overall.

Iran, 74%

Israel, 95%

Egypt, 57%

Paki, 48%

Afghanistan, 36% (1999)

Saudi Arabia, 75%

Somalia, 38% (2001)

Yemen, 50%

CIA World fact book.

Thank GOD, Islam ain't ruling the world, I can think of about ten thousand inventions that would never have been and we'd all still be livng in tents and herding goats.

Why Iraqi civilians don't fight terroris
Why Iraqi civilians don't fight terrorists

why 40,000,000 Iraqi civilians don't fight the 20,000 terrorists!


They have been dis-armed by American troops who fight their battles FOR THEM!

YOUR idiot commander-in-chief and his Generals order their troops to confiscate SMALL CALIBRE HANDGUNS from innocent, non violent Iraqi citizens.

The small calibre handgun is the most effective defensive weapon in the home and on the street (at close range)- especially in a war zone. These guns are hardly a threat to soldiers in flak jackets and helmets!

After dis-arming innocent civilians- the military sheds crocodile tears when those civilians end up in mass graves with their throats slit.

Dis-arming the innocent of an effective means of self-defense is a dastardly deed and the US military should be ashamed of themselves!

You Americans, your government and your military are DEPICABLE!

misterfact@yahoo.com



LD was a half step off
For




For real peace we should all convert to Islam. That would shut them up. We can pay them the taxes that go to Washington. And we can practice the religion the same as we do as a supposedly Christian nation, which is to do what we are doing. Buy hey, you get a pretty new rug and you even get to use it.

Liberalgoodman
OK, I stayed at a B&B in Leeds run by Pakistanis. (It was right when the police decided the London terrorists had come from Leeds, but that is another story.) Yes, they were very friendly, even to us Americans, but afterwards it occurred to me that I hadn't seen a single Pakistani woman there. All the workers we saw were men. But when we called up to make the reservation, a woman had answered the phone.

Obviously, the women were kept hidden away. So, how many women were working in this laundry you were at?

Eon
Eon wrote:"Yes, every culture is special, and deserves to be respected. Except for the culture that has brought nothing but misery, oppression, death, and destruction wherever it touched the other, greater cultures of our world.

"Namely, Western culture."

You base this upon what? If you do even the tiniest bit of research, you will see that western cultures tend to have the most educated populations, the highest standard of living and the most modern lifestyle in the world. Most third world countries would love to have our standard, but they are restrained by overwhelming problems like bribery, ethnic/tribal conflicts and associated violence. A perfect example is Israel. Israel is thoroughly western in its liberal thought and culture, it produces more patents in fields of medicine and information technology than any other country. It comprises .01 % of the middle east. Look at the rest of the middle east. It hasn't produced anything worthwhile in 2000 years. Currently, it is doubtful if the Islamic middle-east could produce a bicycle. The sole export is violent, intolerant and hegemonic Islam.

Your argument rests on shifting sands.

Warrior
No, you are exactly correct concerning Commie Jews.

Hillary's hero, Saul Aulinsky is a prime example.


Multiculturalism and Tolerance

.....Rev Jackson...

.....the following are excerpts from two other posts but they are applicable here also ...

....."to promote tolerance for all lifestyles and behaviors is to relinquish all standards and the very concept of good and evil ...and that is what we end up with ...a society (government) that has no standards ..."

....."without standards we have chaos ...there is no reward for good behavior (because who is to say what is good?) ...and there is no punishment for bad behavior (for who is to say what is bad?) ...thus we allow children to grow up without (traditional) families ...and reward criminals (illegal aliens) with citizenship ..."

....."look to Europe to see where we are headed ...is there any wonder why their culture is dying while Muslims are gaining in prominence? ...say what you will about Islam but they adhere to their standards and their families remain intact ..."

....."America is no longer willing to defend Christian standards and that is our problem in a nut shell." .....COLOSSUS

Wipe them off the map
It is to the point that al followers of Islam should be executed. It is a fanatical religion that preaches hate and murder. The world would be a better place if Islam was not a part of it.

GirlofPearl
Your facts are pretty good; your presentation of the facts is not so good. You are more right than wrong about the Jews and why they have been persecuted--it is not because of their religion--they hide that most of the time and even change their names--it is because of their politics. Most Americans hate political correctness and even wonder where it came from--who started it? Hate crimes, why do we need them? Who is responsible for such convoluted thinking? What do Sean Penn, Jane Fonda, Barbara Streisand, Barney Franks, Chuck Schumer, Walter Cronkite, and Russ Feingold all have in common? Why are they so front and center and protected in our society? Why do you recognize the names so easily?
Who promotes these people?

LOYAL DEMOCRAT
Western civilization respect human life and human rights. Many other (if not most) do not. You have no rights to speak your opinion in other cultures and you have no right to your own opinion.

Secular humanism is an artifact of western civilization. So are feminism, tolerance of others, respect for religious freedom, etc. Does it ever bother you that these values have their origins in Christianity?

Campfire stories
This column is like a scary campfire story. Every dark rustling leaf is a ghost waiting for clouds to cover the moon so they can kill unprotected children and eat their smores.

"The average westerner has not fully understood the either the violence or complexity of the Islamic worldview. Politics and faith are inextricably connected in the mind of an Islamic radical." -- Maybe not, but we can see the violence tendencies of some TH writers ("Is there an innocent Palestinian child?") Certainly politics and faith are inextricably connected in the mind of a Christian conservative.

So far, the IRA has blown up way more stuff in London than "radical Islamicists", but you don't go around saying Catholics are a threat to world peace and western lifestyle.

By chance I spent some time working in a "pakie" (derogaroty term used for immigrants from Pakistan or, out of ignorance, India) laundry in London some years ago. They worked hard and liked me because I was not English and also worked hard. There was a mutual disrespect between them and their English hosts. But without them, London could not function.


For Vic
Unfortunately, the UK will certainly not limit (or eliminate) immigration of any group--as it has signed into a "multiculturalism" program akin to Canada's (devised by Trudeau as a divide-and-continue-misrule strategy, and never dropped).

(I am a Canadian-American of visible-minority group, and actually SAW the damage to the nation caused by--and worsening due to--the Canadian "multiculturalism".)

GunnyG
Most often I agree with you but today our roads have split. There is an element of our society that are Radical Communist Jews. They do not worship a religious document, they kneel at the altar of a secularist document, "The Communist Manifesto", written by two of their own Marx and Engels. They are part of the lineage of the Marx worshippers dating back to the early part of the 20th century. Most of their lineage immigrated here from Europe and Russia during the early years of fascination with the works of Marx, which was not accepted by most Europeans. Marxist Jews led the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia (Trotsky, et al), Hungary (Bela Kun), Munich (Karl Eisner) which failed, Berlin (Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht) which failed, etc. You will have to do your own research to verify my accuracy. During the rise and consolidation of Communism 40-60 million people were killed. The Jews cannot absolve themselves of their first hand involvement. Today, these secularist-progressive (Communist)Jews are attacking our basic institutions right here in America--the whole story is long and disparate but these Jews can be found in Hollywood, the MSM, the ACLU and in our Congress. They are insidious and they hide their religious affiliation because Communism is a secularist movement.

Taskwazen:
If Islam is the problem, why are we trying to help the Iraqis?

Elephant in the room
Everyone is complaining about the cockroaches and ignoring the 6000 pound elephant sitting on the couch. The problem exhibited in England is the same problem we have over here with the Hispanics and other immigrant groups that are here in large numbers. Anytime you have immigrant groups come in at a rate that can not be assimilated, you begin to build enclaves (sometimes called ghettos) in the big cities. When that begins to happen it is time to look at the rate of immigration for that particular group. If you have large enclaves that continue to grow after a few years. A place where the people essentially speak their home language and are not progressing in learning English then it is time to halt ALL immigration of that group. This halt should remain in effect until these enclaves disappear. The problem with the Middle Eastern Muslim enclaves is that, not only are there too many there for assimilation, but given their violent nature, they should never been allowed in to begin with.

Jane
And they give out NON-CUSTODIAL sentences for Armed Robbers, murder, rape, etc, but JAIL old people for defending their homes.

Not to mention their latest craze, confiscating people's cars forever, for talking on the cell while driving!

Check it on my blog!

Great Briton
Just think, Great Briton has taken away peoples guns and with this growing islamic menace! Might want to reconsider giving folks back their guns!

Struggle against Islamic imperialism
Lots of people talk about the war against terror, but I prefer the phrase "the struggle against Islamic imperialism." Part of this struggle is an actual war (in Afghanistan and Iraq), but part is a generally peaceful struggle to keep control of our own societies. Occasionally, that peaceful struggle breaks out into violence, as when Theo van Gogh was murdered or Scandinavian women are raped by Muslim immigrants.

It's important for those of us who aren't in the "blame America first" crowd to mention such things whenever debating with leftists, because they are generally ignorant of them or else don't want to think about them. Getting leftists to talk about Theo van Gogh is generally an ordeal, because they prefer to talk about Iraq.

Keep in mind that we could win in Iraq and lose at home. Or we could win at home, but lose in Iraq. The latter is vastly preferable to the former, but right now it looks as though we could lose in both places.

Huge disconnect Dark Messiah
Someone is being played here. It's the person in your mirror. I'll agree that there are many similarities to the bigotry and hatred of the 30's and 40's in Europe. The parallels between Islam and the Nazi's are eerie. Give your head a shake man.

To Be Heard
Iraq is complicated, but it is simple. Most do not understand the problem, most cannot be heard, not on this board.
Facts: Sunnis will accept a chosen leader and the government acceptable to that leader. Shia will accept only the descendants of Muhammad and they want Sharia Law. The descendants of Muhammad wear Black Turbans. Iraq will be ruled by Shia, they are 80% of the country; they will NOT accept democracy. Sistani and Sadr wear Black Turbans--they are the only acceptable rulers.
Solution: Kill all the Black Turbans-Sistani, Sadr, Nasrallah (Hezbollah in Lebanon), and Kameini in Iran. Eliminate all the descendants of Muhammad and the dynamics will change.
Jordan has a King--Jordan is Sunni
Saudi Arabia has a King--SA is Sunni
Egypt is ruled by an elected official--Egypt is Sunni
Sadaam ruled in Iraq--He used the Sunni to inforce his rule.
Iran is ruled by Kameini--Black Turban Shia
Lebanon ruled by an elected official--Nasrallah, Black Turban Shia(Hezbollah) is trying to over throw him.
Rid the Shia of potential rulers(Black Turbans) and let's see how that plays out.

All
You can see the Peace that Islam offers on my site today.

Story straight out of the wahhabi paradise of Saudi Arabia.

Dark Messiah,

Yeah, being the number one nation on the face of the earth really sucks don't it. maybe you can emigrate to Froganistan, they're always looking for suckers to buy into their socialist nightmare and they're nearly a third world nation, you'll fit right in with the other Jew haters.

Tea With Terrorists ...
I hate to keep beating that drum, but it should be required reading of every living soul. Muslims are excluded because I don't believe their souls are alive. Sorry if that offends, but hey, accept the truth. While the story itself is fiction, many truths are woven into its fabrice. Read "Tea With Terrorists" free online at http://www.teawithterrorists.com.

Francis Porretto & L.D. make good points
The proverbial "elephant in the room", which almost all are desperately trying to ignore, possibly can be illustrated by this question: "Is Islam a peaceful religion, and to what extent do the radicals represent the essence of the religion?"

Melanie Phillips(who wrote "Londonistan")contends that the embrace of secularism and abandonment of traditional Christianity by indigenous Europeans(including the English), has created a void or vacuum which is rapidly filled by an Islam that's been imported for over 30 years by muslim immigrants.

In addition, a pernicious and faddish mindset that disparages and denigrates Europe's Judeo-Christian tradition has infected governmental, educational, and cultural elites, resulting in outright hostility to Europe's heritage.

In other words, it is not worth saving. Such is the malaise affecting European elites.

While only a few(pitifully few), there have been some "moderate" muslims who spoke out against the violence advocated by radicals, only to be admonished by British authorities for not displaying "sensitivity" to the concept that all views must be respected in England's multicultural "paradise".

I just don't believe Islam, in its current form, is compatible with Western notions of tolerance and respect for dissent.

Some will cite U.S. muslims as an example of that supposed "compatibility". But, as more muslims emigrate to this nation, I fear the European model, not the American one, will come to predominate.

It is the essence of Islam, and not the host nation, that governs the behavior of muslims.





The problem
Islam IS the problem. Loyal Democrat obviously knows nothing about the history of Islamic expansion ever since it was invented by a mass-murder, rapist, and slave trader named Muhammad in Arabia about 1,400 years ago.

Loyal Democrat
Your satiric comment was almost perfect. But you forgot the three sentences it needed;

"Yes, every culture is special, and deserves to be respected. Except for the culture that has brought nothing but misery, oppression, death, and destruction wherever it touched the other, greater cultures of our world.

"Namely, Western culture."


cheers

eon

Islam & E.D. Hill
E.D. Hill's very brief interview with a so-called moderate Muslim Sunday night showed how good they are at a song and dance, not answering directly. This guy was unable to keep the scorn from his eyes.

Radical Islam
Once again Harry Jackson, delivers us something to ponder. I agree with Francis. Our only hope from this evil has always been Truth, and imparting that truth to the world. Let us not forget that on the Dome of Rock is a statement which reads "God forbid that he should have a son". This denies Jesus the Savior of the world.
So how do we communicate Jesus as God's Son to a huge segmnet of this world's population that denies the Deity of Christ?

Widen the focus!
Though nothing Mr. Jackson says is factually incorrect, his thesis is too limited. It's not "radical Islam" that's the problem; it's Islam itself. Islam has incorporated both a demand for violent conquest of the world and a totalitarian political system demanded by God since it was first proclaimed.

Robert Spencer has noted several times that the demands of Islam's core documents are far more congruent with the behavior of the militants than they are with the behavior of the not-yet-violent majority of Muslims. The probability is high that Islam cannot be saved from the militants for that very reason. Rather, we should look for ways of saving the bulk of Muslims from Islam itself.

LD
Another good piece of satire.

The only bad thing is if we don't all start to open our eyes we will be having the same problems as the UK.
It's time to crush PC. It's long past due to rid ourselves of that evil and start living in reality again.

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Better to die than offend.
To condemn any part of the Muslim faith is totally racists and should be outlawed as a hate crime. Just because we in the West eschew such things as beheading bound enemies, selling adolescent girls as chattel, and terminating the lives of those of different faiths, we have absolutely no right whatsoever to criticize the Muslims for the content of their unique culture.

Every cuture is special, and each has characteristics that memebrs of other cultures find appalling. For instance, in some cultures, it is impolite to not belch after a meal, whereas in most Western societies, such an action would be considered rude. Likewise, just because a Muslim slits the throat of a feckless wife, we in the West have no right to think him as being improper. We must recognize that our way isn't the only way, and rather than condemn his action, the man should be commended for adhering to the principles of his faith.

We in the West need to come to terms with the fact that we cannot push our sensitivities upon others. As long as we condemn Muslim suicide bombers for driving carloads of C-4 into crowded marketplaces full of people that hold rival beliefs, as long as we think less of men that treat woman akin to livestock, and as long as we complain about thousands of gallons of flaming jet fuel being rammed into our skyscapers by persons expressing their different beliefs, we are always going to carry the yoke of racism. We must thrust off this negative load and learn to embrace our Muslim brothers. To do otherwise is insensitive and racists, and no national security is worth that price. It is better to die than to offend.
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