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Friday, January 19, 2007
Mary Katharine Ham :: Townhall.com Columnist
Big Orange CEOs Under Fire in Congress
by Mary Katharine Ham
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An unseasonable freeze wiped out 75 percent of California’s orange crop this week, but Congress is planning to wipe out any “price gouging” Big Orange executives have in mind.

Some experts predict that produce prices could double or triple in the coming months, but senators are making sure Big Orange answers for the squeeze it’s putting on American orange buyers. Some have suggested a windfall profits tax, with revenues distributed to lower-income juice-drinkers to help them get through their winter breakfasts.

At a hearing called by Republican Bill Frist, Big Orange CEOs found little sympathy from senators, who said their constituents are suffering from high citrus prices while Big Orange makes big profits.

Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., cited huge bonuses — atop huge salaries and stock options — the executives are getting while “working people struggle” to pay for orange push-pops and face the specter of soaring Juicy-Juice bills.

"To my constituents, today's hearing is about shared sacrifices in tough times versus orange company greed," Boxer said. "Working people struggle with high juice prices and your sacrifices appear to be nothing."

CEOs at the hearing defended their pricing and profits. Several executives noted that the industry faces costs of $1 billion to recuperate from damages caused by the recent natural disaster. One orange industry analyst predicted the problem for consumers shortly after the freeze hit, attributing it to a sharp decline in supply instead of “price gouging” on the part of orange moguls.

"We shut down all kinds of everything. This is the big one," said the analyst. "This is unmitigated, bad news for consumers."

One CEO, questioned about reports of a one-day doubling in the wholesale price of gasoline by Tropicana after the freeze, said he couldn't comment on that instance but denied the company was price gouging.

He said the company's pricing policy post-freeze was "to minimize the increase in price while at the same time recognizing that if we kept the price too low, we would quickly run out of oranges and have shortages of everything from creamsicles to orange-scented Pledge. Orange Julius would be out of business. Do you want that? It's a tough balancing act."

Senators shot back, saying they were facing pressure from orange-craving constituents to figure out who was “rigging” the prices.

“The orange companies' witnesses owe the company an explanation, and they owe it to us as those who represent the people,'' said Sen. Pete Domenici (R.—N.M.). “I expect the witnesses to answer whether you think your current profits are excessive and to talk about what they intend to do with the reserves and the profit accumulations that they have.''

“The price is set on the world market by willing buyers and sellers, as to what willing sellers are willing to sell oranges for and willing buyers are willing to pay for them,'' the Minute Maid CEO explained.

The President is expected to address this hot issue in his State of the Union speech Tuesday. According to a high-ranking administration official, Bush will admit that “America is addicted to oranges,” and suggest millions in new funding to develop “cleaner, cheaper, and more reliable alternative orange sources.”

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I can't believe it
Good job Mary Katharine I guess we should repeal the law of supply and demand.

I second that emulsion
For once,someone here at Townhall has spoken the truth about Big Orange and its wide ranging tentacles into breakfast tables everywhere.

How many times have YOU been shocked at the price of your half couralf of OJ at the local IHOP when in reality,your thirst was barely quenched ? This oppression by Big Orange cannot be allowed to exist and further divide us along the line of with,or without,high vitamin C content beverage enjoyers.And furthermore,what about Big Peach and Big Asperagous ? Don't think they won't be looking to keep us down under their jackbooted heels once they see how BO is putting the screws to us with their low pulp,high filtration shell game that keeps us guessing what is in fact THE best source of tasty liquid refreshment.

I say NO! These capitalist purveyers of death will not have me jumping around like their little b*tch on a string,waiting as THEY decide what it is that I will choke my pancakes down with and at what elavated prices so as to satisfy a pernicious greed that serves only to keep us all in breakfast pergatory.

Unite thirsty America! And push back the bonds of freshly squeezed indoctrination, into THEIR image of the bourgeois class, they would have us all lapping up.No more,now is your time,oh great and scurby ridden proliteriate! Storm the groves! Raid the Orange Julious stands! Steal this post! Let them know that they can have your OJ but they will have to pry your (enriched with 10 vitamins and iron)Kool-Aid from your cold,frosty mug before they will ever achieve pure orangification of the masses!

I think Stalin put it best when he said,"Well,if we can't conquer them,at least vote democrat.It'll all (squeeze) out in the end."

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Global warming
I suppose was the cause of all this. Freezing oranges and other citrus spoiled by the effects of the climate change. Where's Al Gore when you need him out front and center?

Go after the manufacturers!
What we need here is more efficient OJ consumers! For far too many years we've been forced to have huge OJ guzzlers at our breakfast tables. It's time to start having kids with less OPB (oranges per breakfast). Maybe one of those nice hybrid models. I hear you can give them apple juice and they cant tell the difference!

Long live Duane Allman!
He was getting too close,so Big Peach took care of him. Be careful out there people.If you be vigilant there be an enormous gourd, with your name on it,floating somewhere in the ominous skies,from the bottom of a black helicopter.

FREE THE AGAVE SEVEN !!!

Hmmm
Mary Katherine, did you have Loyal Democrat ghost write your cloumn today?

I love it
Mary Katharine Ham for president, lets start a draft Mary movement. The answer to shrilary.

Again not making themselves subject
It sounds like our legislators are not making themselves subject to the same laws as the rest of us.

How about a windfall profits tax on the money left in their war chests when they leave office for whatever reason. It's theirs to do with as they please. Some older congressmen and senators from safe districts have a couple of milion stashed away; their golden parachute.

Some get it here
Some utterly humorless dinks there.
Or do I not get those last two folks comedic brilliance ?

More liberal nonsense
It is not the job of Congress to make sure Orange producers don't make too much money.

If consumers don't like the price they can buy something else.

The Senate ought to be giving judges an up-or-down vote (now that the Dems have the majority they should be able to reject all the conservative nominees, so what's the excuse now?).

They ought to be making tax cuts permanent since it is obvious these cuts have worked and helped the economy. Or, if they have a "better" set of taxes, get them enacted.

They ought to be working on a way to keep SS solvent.

They ought to be figuring out ways to balance the federal budget and reduce the national debt.

They ought to be figuring out the best way to work with the President to resolve their differences over Iraq and proceed with winning the war on terror.

Instead they stand around like a bunch of old hens cackling about the price of orange juice as if it's any of their business.

I haven't been this disgusted since they decided Mark McGuire hit too many home runs and demanded that he admit he did it by taking steroids.

An entire industry is devastated by a natural disaster. So what does our Congress do? Crawl up their butts with a microscope to make sure they don't earn any money.

We voters ought to fire the whole lot of them - on both sides of the aisle.

Heh heh
My SUV is finally having an effect. Now the mall rats will have to shell out $20 for an Orange Julius. Ha ha.

PLEASE DONT RUIN THIS
Some of the stupids are ruining an otherwise funny article.

Funny article!
This is just what happened to "Big Oil" when events converged to drive up oil prices and profits...so when are the guyss from Tropicana and Kraft getting called on the carpet?

Just one thing though, maybe Big Citrus would be better. When you say Big Orange many of us in the South think about the University of Tennessee football program!

Now is the Time for Action
I suggest that we immediately initiate a federal program of OJV (Orange Juice Vouchers) for the "less fortunate" among us who can no longer afford the higher-priced OJ that is sure to come.

We also need to overcome the right-wing objection to additional orange grove planting in Florida. Those acres that have been set aside for housing need to be converted to orange-growing asap.

The announcement by the federal government that they will immediately begin buying OJ in order to increase the emergency OJ reserve in Kansas is welcome news, but probably too little, too late.

Unfortunately the Sierra Club has come out in opposition to the orange growers plan to build new juice-producing plants in Nevada. Their opposition is due to the adverse environmental effect of pulp-disposal.

In a final desperate move, the State of California has turned toward Valencia, Spain and the Jaffa producers in Israel for new sources of the vital juice.

Demand continues to rise, making United States' prospects for the future very un-appeeling.

Let the Free Market adjust on its own
Corporate, agricultrial, and industrial welfare has got to end, for the simple fact its a threat to our national survivial.
Companies have got to learn to run their businesses more soundly, instead of government bailing them out every bad winter or bad decisions they make along the way.
They should prepare for the "rainy days" in their operating budgets and not with "taxpayer bail outs".
If they feel raising their prices is the way to do it, the consumer will decide on something else rather than oranges if the price is too high.

However with oil, its a little different. The energy industry is monopolized by oil so its hard for consumers to decide on or access other energy resources. They have no other choice but to get shafted.

We should be doing everything we can to make sure consumers have more choices in energy and food.

"Taxpayer bail-outs" for companies is criminal in my opinion, as well as keeping monopolies in place on energy sources.


Congressional Tax Gouging
Conveniently Congress is demonetizing the free market and CEO's. But has any one looked at Congress and it's oppressively smothering taxation?
When Congress jacks up CEOs and corporations who pays.....? We do, the cost of doing business gets passed to the consumer. Just another thinly disguised tax increase by hammering the private sector, and the private sector sticking it to us. Taxation light if you will.

Come to think about it do we really need Congress or the White House, because everyone knows the judicial system is running the country anyway.

but nobodys mentioning the real issue...
we need to end this illegal war!!! everyone knows we are only there because of Bush's conspiracy to use stolen oil to truck oranges from Florida to help prop up big orange exec's in his BROTHER's state!!!!!!


no blood for oil for citrus!!!!

Bob Ney (R) Ohio gets 2 1/2 years......
Very good to see Bob Ney (R) Ohio get sentenced today.

HEY, he broke the "public trust" according to the judge-------WHOA......wait just a minute.

How about Sandy Berger stealing government "CLASSIFIED" documents from a Federal Government facility. Did he not break the public trust as a former high official within the government? I thought removing such documents was against the law. Hmmmmm...... Nothing from the press on this issue. Hmmmmm......Nothing from the Democrats on this issue. Hmmmmm..... a simple slap on the wrist from the courts.

WOW! Classified documents removed and methodically discarded. How many of us would have received such a slap for such behavior? See ya later Bob Ney. Hey, Sandy Berger, No Harm, No Foul. Oh yeah......Scooter Libby, let's see what fate awaits you. Boy oh boy, this is fascinating. Come to think of it, Harry Reid has not been made to account for his illegal/unethical reporting of over $1,000,000 in profits from his shady real estate deal.

A disaster of epic proportions
Not being independently wealthy or able to raise your taxes to increase my income, I'll have to start having Bloody Marys in the morning instead of screwdrivers. Oh the agony! And what happens when the tomato crop freezes? I might have to drink (GASP!!!!) coffee!!!!

Minute Maid Wages
Everybody knows Minute Maid comes into town with their low wage, no medical benefit workers, and Chinese oranges to undercut and destroy the local orange producers. The only answer is forced unionization!

One question Big Oil *should* answer...
In the 1950s it was decided that oil had a national defense aspect. So the government offered financial incentives to the oil companies to diversify the infrastructure so that an enemy (i.e. Russia) couldn't knock it all out with one strike.

Esso, now Exxon, built a refinery in Everett Massachusetts under the auspices of this program. And then they closed it in the early 1960s.

They didn't have to take the government money (or tax breaks or whatever) but they did and the promise was that they wouldn't have all their refineries in the same place because the nation would be more secure if they weren't.

And if they didn't have such a concentration of infrastructure in such a small area, well, they wouldn't all be harmed by the same storm.

TO THEIR CREDIT, big oil did quite well with no major spills and in getting things back on line quickly and I agree with MKH on the Big Orange analogy, BUT there still is the issue of if Eisenhower's diversity had been maintained, we wouldn't have had quite the problem we did.

Bluntly, we need a refinery on the east coast.

Citris ethanol
Mary forgot one thing, there are viable alternatives to oranges if only the greedy SOBs who pull the strings of their lackeys in the Bush administration would only stand down. The technology for converting corn to orange juice has existed for years, but Minute Maid bought up all of their patents and deep-sixed them all. Brave whistleblowers who tried to tell the public about the connections between the orange growers and the Bush family now sleep with the fishes. Do you think it is a coincidence that every time an orange appears in the Godfather trilogy, a murder occurs? Wake up America, break your addiction to the poison citrus and go back to Ovaltine!!!

Saving Grace
Hugo Chavez has agreed to send up over 2 tons of oranges to the poor in Knoxville, Tennessee. This has prompted Charlie Rangel to cry, “Hey, buddy, how ‘bout me!”

It has also prompted a rarely heard outcry in Knoxville of, “DAMN Bid Orange!!” Riots broke out around the city between University of Tennessee football supporters and victims of the price gouging. They were quickly stopped, however, when UT President John Peterson and UT football coach Phillip Fulmer drove through the crowd with megaphones shouting, “You idiots, it’s about citrus fruit!”


The sad thing is...
I wouldn't put it past our wonderful Senators. Afterall, with Ried and Pelosi in charge, I doubt anything meaningful will be done in two years. After all, didn't Pelosi and Reid promise endless investigations, hearings, and impeachment proceedings?

No blood for blood oranges
This is absolutely the most fun I have had on a discussion on TH! Congrats MKH on a wickedly funny satire. Now everyone will think that you are the one behind Loyal Democrat!

The Elites
The Socialist-Democrats are confident that they, and they alone, can actually micro-manage the most complex and successful economy on the planet.

The S-D's feel that the messy and complicated free-market capitalism we've come to know and love needs to go and instead, we'll all prosper under Pelosi-ism. (God knows, I've been so deprived all these years under capitalism).

Really, lefties, do you truly think that the Socialist-Democrats under Reid and Pelosi are so incredibly intelligent that they can run a multi-trillion dollar global economy?

If you do, I've got beach-front property to sell you in Oklahoma.

pirate
The reason big oil has not built new refineries in decades can be summed up in 3 letters, EPA.

How about a Strategic Orange Reserve?
Congress must pass a law immediately authorizing and funding this important guarantor of U.S. citrus independence.

Alternative sources
Congress must immediately fund a bill to research alternative sources. Water, sugar, and synthetic vitamin C will serve as an adequate alternative drink.

I smell a conspiracy.
If you ask me, the whole thing stinks to high heaven! It's a co-conspiracy by "the man" and the tooth fairy to start a scurvy epidemic among the people who are too poor to afford citrus beverages and quality dental care.

bones and
danmcn61 writes: Friday, January, 19, 2007 1:34 PM (that's right,"we're" hep to what BOTH of you are doing)
"Citris ethanol
Mary forgot one thing, there are viable alternatives to oranges if only the greedy SOBs who pull the strings of their lackeys in the Bush administration would only stand down. The technology for converting corn to orange juice has existed for years,"

So you guys want to play hard ball huh? Wait until we get a democrat back as POTUS.What happened to Alrich Ames(his real name BTW,google it sometime)will seem like a wlk(correct spelling,but google has had it wiped from the records) in the park compared to what you guys are about to experience IF YOU DON'T SHUT THE H UP!!!

Now get on your little keypads and let everyone know it was all a part of MKH's "parody".Ya got it!?! Good,now get back to trading endless, minutia based, drivel about whatever with whoever so things can be more townhallish again.

Jeez,they keep writin' stuff like that and pretty soon there'll be links to Mark Steyn or even Iwoa(original indian spelling)hawk.com goin' on 'round here!

Red Herring
Don't you fools know where in the USA juice oranges come from? Florida! California grows navel oranges for eating, not drinking. So, there is no real reason to raise the price of orange juice -- except to gouge stupid shoppers. Last time I heard, Florida was warm and freeze-free this winter. So the US juice crop has not been effected. The scam is on and you all are falling for it! Supply and demand is not determining the price of OJ, propaganda is!

Fortunately, there is a silver lining to the "dark cloud" freezing California. Without crops to pick, all the "undocumented" migrant farm workers can migrate right out of California and over to Florida to pick crops. Praise the Lord! Relief at last! Now, California growers won't need a "guest-worker" scheme to pick their crops -- they don't have that many to pick. And, we California taxpayers won't be on the hook, picking up the tab for subsidies for the growers' under-paid pickers and their families.

Cold and loving it in chilly California.












Hey Ubtib Udijo
That's "Tasha Tchin" in backwords "2001:A Space Odyssey" code lingo. The "Get a clue Express" just wizzed by(and left a paper meche something on your lawn),the next one should be due pretty soon.

Or you could read the column with just a hint of a sense of humor.She's yankin' your funny bone man! Lighten up and enjoy.Some of the responses aint half bad either.

Man,you THers,I don't know.I just don't know...

Price Gouging Criminals!
We now know that capital punishment is more expensive. I want congress (which is the oposite of progress) to call all the (other) crooks to Washington, D.C. (District of Corruption) and demand to know why it's more expensive to execute them now than it used to be.
I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore!!!!!

Not All is Lost!
At least the grape crop was not affected!
Slurp...

1 question
Has anyone out there EVER been FORCED to buy OJ?

RE: Long live Duane Allman!
Excellent bit of historical perspective, 2spothipshot! I never realized this conspiracy reached as far as it does. Eat a peach, indeed. If we don't quiet down here, we will all be forced to 'eat an orange'.
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