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Tuesday, November 13, 2007
William F. Buckley :: Townhall.com Columnist
Norman Mailer, RIP
by William F. Buckley
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How to deal with Norman Mailer? I begin by acknowledging the truth of much that is being said about him, that he was a towering figure in American literary life for 60 years, almost unique in his search for notoriety and absolutely unrivaled in his co-existence with it. Roger Kimball of The New Criterion has written that Mailer "epitomized a certain species of macho, adolescent radicalism that helped to inure the wider public to displays of violence, anti-American tirades, and sexual braggadocio."

But to delve into one's own little portfolio, Mailer's career intersected with my own when in September 1962 two entrepreneurs rented the Medinah Temple in Chicago, which held over 4,000 people, and engaged Mailer and me to debate on the nature of the right wing in American politics. It pleased Mailer, who was complaining widely about his poverty, that Playboy magazine immediately contracted to publish his and my opening statements in its next issue.

A few years later I had Mailer as a guest on "Firing Line," and one critic was deeply inquisitive about the meaning of the engagement. "Seeing Buckley and Mailer on the tube yesterday I can't get over it," Mel Lyman wrote in the New York Avatar. "The greatest representation of the two extremes I've seen in a long time. Conservative meets liberal, right meets left, before meets after. Buckley didn't know what the f--- Mailer was talking about, it just jammed his computer, he even had to resort to childish insults to try and keep up his end." ("Norman Mailer decocts matters of the first philosophical magnitude from an examination of his own ordure, and I am not talking about his books," I had said.)

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"Buckley is a computer," Lyman went on, "Mailer is a man. A man can only be categorized and computerized to a certain extent, the greater part of him lies out of definition. Greatness can be recognized only. That is why Buckley went all to pieces when Mailer spoke of the 'greatness' he saw in Castro. Buckley could only see the un-American activities accredited to the man, Castro. He could only see him as far as he could define his actions. Mailer could look right at him, like a child, and see a great force, an inner strength, a fearlessness that had nothing to do with right or wrong.

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"I love Buckley," this disciple of Mailer wrote, "but he makes me very sad, he's completely mastered the art of living in prison but Mailer's mastered the art of what you do after you get out, and Buckley doesn't even know there is an out."

Mailer took two practical steps that bounced off our Chicago exchange. The first was to sue Playboy -- on the grounds that, manifestly, his essay was worth more than the $5,000 paid to us. That done, he said he wished to explore with me a string of Buckley-Mailer debates throughout the country, "beginning in Carnegie Hall."

This initiative brought him and his wife to our house in Stamford, Conn., and I took him out on my 36-foot sailboat. He could not believe it when I turned the wheel over to him, pointing out a course to the end of the harbor. It was very cold by the time we had finished dinner, but he ordered his wife, Jeannie, to the back of his motorcycle, and they zoomed off to Brooklyn.

There were other episodes. There was the night in New York when, after dinner, I said I needed to file a column, but he wasn't ready to go home, pursuing us to our apartment nearby. Wobbling up the steps, his then current wife passed out and was placed by my wife in a spare bedroom. Norman climbed upstairs with me to my study and spoke disparagingly of the column as, paragraph after paragraph, I gave it to him to read.

Finally he said it was time to go home, and we walked down the stairs to where his wife had been taken. But rousing her from that sleep defied any resource we were willing to deploy, so Norman announced fatalistically that, never mind, she would eventually rise, go out the street door and get a cab. "Me, I'm going home, Slugger," as he called my wife. I helped him find a cab.

But Norman Mailer is a towering writer! So why this small talk? Perhaps because it no longer seems so very small. I said about Mailer a few years ago that he created the most beautiful metaphors in the language. I reiterate that judgment. But I go further, wondering out loud whether the obituaries are, finally, drawing attention to the phenomenon of Norman Mailer from the appropriate perspective. The newspaper of record says of him, as though such a profile were routine, that he was married six times, that he nearly killed one wife with a penknife, and that he had nine children. What if he had had seven wives, the seventh of them abandoned there in somebody's bedroom, waiting for a taxi to take her home, any home? Would that have claimed the obituarist's attention?

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About The Author

William F. Buckley, Jr. is editor-at-large of National Review, the prolific author of Miles Gone By: A Literary Autobiography.

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MR. BUCKLEY'S GENEROSITY

We are all honored to learn these little pieces of the lives of the truly significant, truly unique people who have observed life, reported life, commented on the vagaries of life, and, best of all, lived it. This applies to both Norman Mailer and William F. Buckley.

Thank you, Mr. Buckley, for sharing some of those events with the rest of us.

A Good Line
Let's remember Norman Mailer for this very good line from "The Deer Park". I don't have a copy at hand so am quoting from memory, but this is pretty much what he said: "Again and again in life, we either find the courage to move forward or pay the price for staying where we are".

Thanks Mr. Buckley
Thanks for filling in some of the blanks. There has always been something about Norman Mailer I did not particularly like.

don't always agree with buckley
but as the lion of conservatism he is always a good read as was norman mailer.

BILL:You are THE Man!
I KNOW you can do this for at least another 10-20 years!...you are the best that there is!!! and EVER WAS! Many years from now people will STILL be asking...what did he REALLY mean by that! So obvious and then again not so... to some...When you stop writing ... I stop reading...and the guilt will be on your head!

Great article
As my lack of posts would suggest, I'm relatively new to TH. However, I've been reading Mr. Buckley's work for some time now. I've also had the pleasure of reading Mr. Mailer's work over the years. I never knew that their paths had crossed before reading this, but it realy doesn't surprise me. They both have the ability to clearly think things through before it came flying out of their mouths or they put pen to paper. Some of what they said may have been like cianide to people of the opposing ideologies, but it didn't seem to stop them from listening or reading. I only wish that people like Franken or Coulter could do the same thing. Even when I agree with them I want them to shut up. Until then, they will continue to appeal only to the wingnuts, while Buckley and Mailer will be read and appreciated by many long after Franken and Coulter have been forgotten. Thank you Mr. Buckley for this great peek into the lives of two great minds.

interesting anecdotage
Thanks Mr Buckley. Norman, RIP (I hope)

Larger than life
is generally one of the tag lines that liberals reserve for: decadent, obnoxious, profligates that have left multiple failed relationships in their wake. Those who try to surf in such a wake will similarly become ship wreck. There is no rest for the wicked, as the saying goes. Well, I'm sure Mr. Buckley has some honest admiration for Mr. Mailer's gift for writing, and he stands taller for bringing a "wish you well" for the recently deceased. Certainly, our culture has been "Norman Mailered" (Paul Simon)

Two funerals
There should be two funerals-one for Norman and one for his bloated ego.

If you don't recognize it,
Buckley is saying Mailer was a pig. I agree, only phrase it as idiot.

Allow me to share, again, this:

http://forgottenprophets.blogspot.com/2007/11/norman-mailer .html

Not all intelligence, we do understand, is about a facility with words.

J

My 2 cents
This is a touching tribute and a good, classy way to say goodby to someone whom one respects and who is one's ideological opposite.

I will keep this tribute in our records and compare it to what the left has to say about Mr. Buckley when his time comes.


whoops
Amend that to MY records. Sorry

Not sorry
that Mailer is taking his eternal dirt-nap. He was a whiner and an enabler of the "gimme-gimme" generation.

BTW, want to read something from a surprising conservative?

Check my blog.

BOOOOOOORRRRRIINNG!!!!
I forced myself to read Mailer's The Naked and the Dead in its entirety. It was one of the most boring, incoherent, meaningless tomes I have ever read. Apparently an author is considered "great" if he uses big words and no one can figure out (and more significantly admit to this fact) the author's random meanderings.

Epitaph for a Thug
The difference between William F. Buckley and Norman Mailer; Buckley is an erudite gentleman from the old school; Mailer was an immoral thug, both in his life and his fiction.

reading material
GUNNY G WRITES:

BTW, WANT TO READ SOMETHING FROM A SURPRISING CONSERVATIVE? (written all in caps to distinguish from my question, not to indicate shouting or anything else)

Gunny, what book or article are you referring to? I looked at your blog, but I am not sure if you are referring to a specific post or one of the banners that announce a specific book.


RIP Norman
I will not and cannot weep for such a guy as this. The praise may be earned, but not from my hand.

good riddance
goodbye leftist idiot. you won't be missed

How will they be remembered?
Fifty years from now, any sane person will remember both Buckley and Mailer as towering intellects and gifted writers.

But Buckley loved his wife (R.I.P. Mrs. Buckley), his only wife, and his family. Mailer married like a polygamist, and loved his women like a Wahabbist.

That's quite the legacy.

I think Mailer was Buckley's lab project
I cannot fathom another reason why Buckley would cultivate a relationship with this barbarian other than as a means of studying a raging unrepentant anarchist up close and personal.

Lilly
You quoted:
"Again and again in life, we either find the courage to move forward or pay the price for staying where we are".

The problem is too many people think they're moving forward when in reality they are moving backward. The clue is in the word"courage". There is absolutely no courage required to be a liberal (according to its common usage) today.

On the contrary, it is those bucking the current liberal status quo who most need to exercise that particular virtue.

Thanks Bill
WFB:
"What if he had had seven wives, the seventh of them abandoned there in somebody's bedroom, waiting for a taxi to take her home, any home? Would that have claimed the obituarist's attention?"

I assume the woman in Mr. Buckley's guest-bed was one of the six, and she eventually found her way back to the Mailer residence, where she & Norman probably had a big fight about it. (Maybe he stabbed her.)

It occurs to me that many of the past authors whose work we study and revere behaved like Norman Mailer, yet he's so unique these days. Will the future look back on us, today, as a particularly wimpy age?
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