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Wednesday, November 01, 2006
William F. Buckley :: Townhall.com Columnist
Who is being smuttier?
by William F. Buckley
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The charge by assorted gentry that James Webb is not qualified to serve as a U.S. senator from Virginia because there are lewdnesses in his published fiction rattles one's faith in democracy. A few questions need to be examined, beginning with the primary charge: smutty passages in Webb's fiction.

I have no plans to run for senator from Connecticut, but if I did I suppose my opponent could make such charges as James Webb is confronting, citing passages from my 18 novels. Both of us dwell in high church elevation: Webb, because he wishes a seat in the Senate; I, because I have been the editor of a conservative journal of opinion that speaks out on moral questions.

James Webb's principal defense -- made on his behalf by independent observers -- has been that in his novels he writes about war and the military. And he saw these at first hand. One former naval officer wrote in to say: "Anyone who writes sex-free military fiction either doesn't know what he's talking about or doesn't have the guts to write the truth. These passages prove nothing except that Webb writes the military as he knew it, warts and all. It doesn't mean he approves of all the things he writes about (whether or not he ever did); he's certainly not the same guy now that he was when a midshipman or a second lieutenant."

Another commentator wrote: "I hate to break it to you folks, but the military -- especially the Marine Corps, the service that Webb knows best -- is largely composed of macho young men with foul mouths and an unhealthy obsession with all things sexual. It's a giant locker room. No one who's been in the naval service beyond boot camp ... hasn't heard a story or two about a Filipino stripper dicing a banana with her vagina. ... If I wrote a book that involved some junior Marine officers deployed to Spain, and if I were as brutally honest as Webb is, I might write a scene in which the characters watch a live sex show. More than once. Because that's what my fellow lieutenants and I did when we were deployed to Spain. Am I proud of it? Not especially. But it happened -- and it was by no means unusual."

More generally, the novelist writes to explore the human being. One did not need to await Freud to discern that the sexual drive is, if not the dominant impulse in human nature, at least a subdominant, making way for love, family, political allegiances, vocations, patriotism and treachery. In order to illustrate these human drives it is required that authors explore manifestations of sexual interest, and these involve scenes and thoughts that inform us, whether we are reading "Romeo and Juliet" or "The Merchant of Venice."

Now these disclaimers do not excuse violations of taste. But critics are there as full-time posses to hunt down aggressors in fiction. In politics, aggression at every conceivable level is positively workaday. No sex scene begins to rival dank exposes of human behavior when tempted to debauch not at brothels, but at polling places.

Sen. George Allen, who has subscribed to the criticism of the fiction of his opponent, Mr. Webb, has to know these truths. To begin with, he knows that to have written a sex scene in a piece of fiction is not as dangerous to a person's character as is competing for public office. A month ago John Grisham co-hosted, along with Stephen King, a fund-raiser for Webb in Charlottesville. Last Friday Grisham said, on the question of Webb's fiction, "This is a clear sign of a desperate campaign, if they plow through novels trying to find evidence of character."

At a practical level, Sen. John McCain, than whom no one is better qualified to judge war and writers who describe war, commented about one of Webb's novels: "It captures well the lingering scars of the war. A novel of revenge and redemption that tells us much about both where Vietnam is headed and where it has been."

Some say that the mere publication of smutty, erotic, realistic passages from Webb's fiction will undermine his claim to credentials to serve in the Senate. There are many reasons to vote for the Republican incumbent, but anyone who votes for him in protest against Webb's fiction needs to -- grow up.

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William F. Buckley, Jr. is editor-at-large of National Review, the prolific author of Miles Gone By: A Literary Autobiography.

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I'll take you at your word
You find the slightest hint that there might be another side on the question of nudity in art absolutely unimaginable. I'm willing to bet that the majority of conservative political philosophers of the past 2 centuries had no objection to that large part of the Western artistic tradition that includes nudity in sculpture and painting. I'll take you at your word; you see no difference between Hustler and Michelangelo, and you think anyone who does is depraved. So be it.

Since I know you ,must surely have direct access to the Book of Life and know whose names are inscribed in it, you probably already know that I'm a depraved pseudo-Christian who twists Holy
Scripture for my (doubtless, the devil's) purposes.

Tell me, did you teach your children to hate so much Western art? I suppose there never will be enough Republican voter...




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Lydia

You seem unable to follow what is really a very simple analogy I tried to draw between your views on depictions of nudity and human sexuality in the arts and the Nazi views on “decadent” Jewish art. I know perfectly well that the Nazis did not simply hate the Jews for reasoning having to with sex.

[However, on a closer reading, you might really be saying that the reasons the Nazis hated the Jews was because of theirs—the Jews’—sexual mores, art and influence. Now we have a whole new problem—what were those terrible Jewish sexual mores? And did Jewish art have too much nudity? And then what about their influence? ]

One more time: while you do make clear what you think pornography is, you do not qualify either your position on the arts or what you really think ought to be done. My contention is that themes of human sexuality are one of the major dimensions of the Western tradition of art and literature. Of course, this is not the only dimension, but its presence cannot be denied. You are opposed to this and that you wish it did not exist.

I can’t really imagine classical, Renaissance, and Baroque art without the representation of the nude human body. Remove all those sculptures and paintings and you have destroyed the tradition of Western art. I don’t see how your can “tweak” this in any prudent way. [I suppose you could just have some Republicans paint over what the Brits call the “naughty bits.” Again, this destroys the art and would be the act of a self-righteous totalitarian.]

I’m quite familiar with Edmund Burke and don’t need Jonah Goldberg to paraphrase him. Of course conservatives should take a moderate, Burkean approach to bringing about change. However, Burke’s views apply to ends as well as means. For example, Burke was not simply opposed to the methods of the French revolutionaries; he was opposed to their goals as well.

For example, no amount of “tweaking” can save the revolutionary goal of bringing about an end to social hierarchies from being a bad goal, from Burke’s standpoint. For Burke the extremism of the end and extremism of means go together. So, you can’t remove all inequalities (or, for Burke, really any inequalities) in part because the goal is morally wrong and in part because the attempt to do so requires killing lots of people.

I say that your goal cannot possibly be pursued by prudent tweaking, and even if it could—even if you became the founder of a growing social movement to rid museums of the smut you find there that eventually succeeds—the goal is, again, that of a self-righteous totalitarian. What do you think Burke would say about a person who would get rid of all that Vatican art?

You might not be the sort of person who would smash musical instruments, but that is only because you did not choose to agree with those Protestants who did just that. If you had agreed with them about the harmful effects of the playing of instruments and singing in church, I see no reason to suppose you would not have started a movement with the slogan “Let’s get all that disgusting playing and singing out of God’s house.”

As for Chesterton, no, he was not a Nazi, and the force—such as it is—of your comment depends on a total misreading of my various remarks, because you imagine I’m saying that the Nazis were sexual prudes. Of course they were not. Nor were they conservatives, and so I can’t possibly be implying that euthanasia and abortion are conservative values.

As for Chesteron’s specific opinion you cited, it’s hardly unique to conservatives. Most conservatives—because they only believe what their ideologues tell them—haven’t read Freud, so they don’t know that he was by no means an advocate of uninhibited sex. In fact (look it up; I’ll find you a good website), he made sublimation of sexuality crucial for the preservation of civilization.

It’s clear that you believe that, on the basis of my views, that I’m some sort of radical hippie leftist dope-smoking, blaspheming subversive, out to pollute our republic by circulating photos of the Sistine Chapel. For you that’s true because you know you’re right and I’m wrong. Again, do I need to remind you about self-righteousness?

Anyway, here are some websites where Christians discuss the dispute you and I have. Hey, I’ll be you would never guess that just maybe I’m a Christian—of course that doesn’t count because I belong to one of those devil’s dens otherwise known as mainstream Protestant churches. We moral bottom-feeders are clearly agents of the Dark Side.

Be that as it may, here goes:

The first site is one of the Christian Travelers Guides, this one on “A Christian Perspective on Nudity in European Art.” It’s brief and reasonably clear.

http://www.christian-travelers-guides.com/culture/cpnea.html

The next is the Art Renewal Center, with a longer and more detailed piece on “Nudity in Art” by Brian K. Yoder. It takes a Christian perspective, but doesn’t reach what you regard as the right conclusion. Still, maybe you might learn something.


http://www.artrenewal.org/articles/2003/best_of_arc/best1.asp?msg=655&forumID=27

This has a very clear discussion, from a Christian perspective, on the differences between nudity in art and pornography. If you follow the links at the bottom of this piece, you’ll a take on pornography that should be conservative enough for you. Note that knowing the difference between nudity in art and pornography is important in helping people deal with pornography.

http://www.rbc.org/bible_study/answers_to_tough_questions/answers/30971.aspx

Then comes a Wikipedia article on “Social Nudity and Christianity,” which examines Christian naturism (or nudism). This practice has an extensive history among Christians, and this article covers that history, takes a look at some biblical passages that do not condemn nudity, discusses Protestant and Catholic varieties of naturism, and even finds favorable citations from various prominent Christians, such as Pope John Paul II and C.S. Lewis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_naturism

Finally, a wide-ranging 4-part discussion on Christianity Today’s website on making Christian movies that has a lot of interesting comments on the potentials and problems inherent in artistic creative work by Christians. Part 4 bears directly on our disagreements.

http://www.christianitytoday.com/movies/commentaries/goodchristianmovie.html

Now for your comments on the plaque representing Kamasutra statues: I sincerely hope you sent an angry message to that museum. While I don’t find such statues particularly appealing, I don’t have a problem with other people seeing them. You do. You also have a dirty mind and a nasty way of putting things. Do you imagine that I would put the plaque on the wall and then discuss Kamasutra positions over the turkey, or perhaps the dessert? Or did you suppose that my “darling family”—were you sneering when you wrote this?-- would adjourn to the living room to act them out?

A passage from Galatians (5.22-23) came to mind.

“The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control.”

As a sinner, I have some idea which of these I’ve ignored in my replies to you. Do you know which ones you’ve ignored?

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