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Thursday, June 19, 2008
Victor Davis Hanson :: Townhall.com Columnist
Obama Promises Change - But What Kind?
by Victor Davis Hanson
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By this point in the presidential campaign, the public knows that a charismatic Barack Obama wants sweeping "change." While the national media have often fallen hard for the Illinois senator's rhetoric -- MSNBC's Chris Matthews said he felt a "thrill going up my leg" during an Obama speech -- exactly what kind of change can Obama bring if he's elected in November?

FOREIGN POLICY

Take Obama's foreign-policy pronouncements, which promise a break with the unhappy past. Two doctrines are most prominent. One is to engage our enemies and be nicer to our allies. The other calls for leaving Iraq on a set timetable.

The problem with the first is that key allies like the conservative French, German and Italian governments -- unlike the days of rage in 2003 -- now embrace pretty much the same policies that we do. Britain and the European Union just called for imposing tougher sanctions on Iran, while both France and Britain promise to send more troops to Afghanistan.

In Feb. 2007, Sen. Obama called for American troops out of Iraq by March 2008. But in the last four months since that proposed final departure, violence is way down as the U.S. military and Iraqi army have stabilized much of the country.

The world in January 2009 will not be the same as it was in February 2007. So would a President Obama really engage Iranian President Ahmadinejad just as the Europeans are isolating him, or give up on Iraq when the American military may well gradually draw down in victory, not defeat?

ENERGY

Gas prices are soaring. Americans are frustrated (and a bit ashamed) that we continue to beg the Saudis to pump another half-million barrels a day on their soil and off their shores to ease global tight supplies, when we could pump much more than that in Alaska, off our coasts and on the continental shelf -- and thus save hundreds of billions of dollars.

Yet Sen. Obama's change probably wouldn't include more drilling; more nuclear power plants; or fuel extraction from tar sands, shale or coal. Instead, his strategy emphasizes more conservation; mass transit; and wind, solar and alternate green energy. All that is certainly wise and could be a winning combination by 2030, but right now it won't fill our tanks.

TAXES

Sen. Obama also wishes to raise trillions in new taxes by upping the capital gains margins, restoring inheritance taxes, raising the income rates on the upper brackets and lifting the income caps on Social Security payroll taxes. Such an old-fashioned soak-the-rich plan will please a strapped public tired of overpaid CEOs and Wall Street jet setting.

Yet forcing the affluent to pay even more won't necessarily reduce annual deficits of the last eight years or pay down the huge national debt -- not when Obama promises more vast entitlements in health care, education and housing and current aggregate federal revenues were increased by past tax cuts that spurred economic growth.

Sen. Obama promises a new style of politics that is issue-based, rather than attack-dog. But so far, he has campaigned in conventional fashion: He's tough on his opponents and as prone to overstatements and mischaracterizations as any other candidate.

The take-no-prisoners Moveon.org, which gave us the "General Betray Us" ads, is now an ally running third-party hit pieces on John McCain. Such outside help is customary in an election but seems inconsistent with Obama's disavowals of the hardball politics of the past.

Sen. Obama has promised a new dialogue on race and tolerance. His own impressive personal journey may make that possible. But his 20-year intimate relationship with the racist Rev. Jeremiah Wright suggests that for years he was heavily invested in the rather tired and predictable identity politics of grievance rather than a vocal advocate of novel racial transcendence.

Overall, Obama's announced policies are sounding pretty much the same old, same old once promised by candidates like George McGovern, Mike Dukakis, Walter Mondale, Al Gore and John Kerry. Of course, a return to the standard big-government nostrums of the past may well be what the angry voters want after 20 years of the Bushes and Clintons. But it is not a novel agenda, much less championed by a post-racial, post-political emissary.

So what are the Democrats thinking? That a mesmerizing, path-breaking African-American candidate -- coupled with Bush exhaustion -- will overcome past public skepticism of Northern presidential Democratic candidates, traditional liberal agendas and Obama's own relative lack of experience.

In other words, we should count on hope rather than change.

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Victor Davis Hanson is a classicist and historian at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University, and a recipient of the 2007 National Humanities Medal.

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CHANGE ???
Obama's proposal of CHANGE requires sound judgement to determine which things should change, and which things should be kept, cherished and embraced. Unfortunately Obama and his left wing supporters want to throw out the baby with the dirty bath water. They have no appreciation of U.S. history, or the blood, sweat, and sacrifice it's taken to make America the greatest country in the world. They seem to believe that before you can create change, first you must discredit, or destroy everything that's come before. Obama relies on young voters apathy and ignorance of American history and tradition, which makes it easier for them to buy into CHANGE, without any sense of what kind of change is needed. Evidence of this, is Obama supporters embracing his disrespectful alteration of the Presidential seal, to further his personal ambition. Or, Obama's black liberation church discrediting Thomas Jefferson, because of an alleged affair with a black slave. If Obama is elected President, I predict that American history will be gradually revised, and America as we know it will become barely recognizable.

The mindless pursuit of change
Two key symptoms of a decadent society are "boredom" and the mindless pursuit of "change" for its own sake." Decadence, boredom and the lust for change are interrelated. This from a chapter about Russell Kirk's thoughts in, "The American Conservative Movement---The Philosophical Founders," by John P. East.

It seems a good deal of what Obama was promoting at the outset was mindless change. He is now being required by the other-than-brain-dead among us, to infuse the "ghost" with some viable substance. Retrofitting can get ugly. Doc Cleaver

HEY TC
He is also a well rehersed actor.

A front man for the american "marxist" party.

eddie...spring hill...fl

A Most Practical and Structured Article
June 18, 2008

In my view as a freelance writer, Mr. Hanson's article above is cohesive and stimulating and fully captures what could be in my opinion the disastrous consequences based on the ability of Barack Obama to win the Presidency propelled by his innocuous and unexplainable "change" catch phrase, his evangelical powers, fitness, youth,and good looks. All of these are positively bogus reasons to vote for him for President. He simply cannot change much at all. He cannot fire most Federal workers or elected officials or judges. He will have to be briefed and directed on most subjects anyway. And so it goes. His supporters may have to hold their breath and hope that some controversy or misstatement does not ironically allow him to even run. Anyway the real problem in this country is no credibility on the part of voters to properly evaluate our candidates mostly due to lack of education and sound knowledge of global events and national issues affecting all of us. Recently, a 21 year old kid told me that he is voting for Obama because he saw him walking down the street in D.C. wearing a trench coat with a black berry hanging out a pocket.

commonsenseunlimited

Mountain Rose is correct : see msg #39
CHANGE is a great word for a politician to use, because it functions as a fantasy 'wildcard'. As in "insert your crazy idea here".

There are enough people who are gullible enough to visualize any wild fantasy they may choose and assume that their charismatic candidate will cause CHANGE, and make it happen.

Here is a partial list of crazy ideas - feel free to add your own!

* FREE high-quality health care
* FREE energy
* FREE high-quality education
* Having a rational dialog with crazy terrorists who want to kill us
* Making the oceans stop rising

REDEEMING QUALITY ?????
Subject: REDEEMING QUALITY ???
"No Man is an Island!" and I am socially very active with many political friends to which I request this simple question seeking a pausible response:

Name one - just 1 - redeeming quality relative to Barack Barry Hussain bin Obama?

Otherwise would I allow my children in an automobile with this man driving and if so the answer is affirmative, WHY?

Doc

Obama would make a great T.V. anchor man.

I think he'd be an excellent CEO of a Fortune 500 company.

If the USA created a position titled, "Person In Charge Of Race Relations For America", I would have no problem if he got the job.

He might even become a skilled, powerful and SENIOR senator one day. Again, no problem for me.

However, when it comes to POTUS, I think he is what he is. A highly unqualified JUNIOR senator and as you, myself and others have said many times in many ways, all style and no substance.

At this stage in America's history (right on the brink of disaster?) to elect such a person to the highest office in the land seems close to insanity.

That's how I see it.

Agreed?









The Reagan democrats....
I really hope and pray the middle of the country makes this guy's November a real bummer. The left coast and the eastern establishment are in love with this socialist (near Marxist) sheep in wolves clothes. Those areas of the country are steeped in fantasy and utopianism. The old Reagan dems are the only hope we have. The "bitter" people are the ones who work hard, struggle and have their feet firmly on planet earth. With their basic values I pray they see through this cloud of smoke and mirrors and vote for McCain. McCain certainly doesn't excite me, but I really believe he beats this deeply flawed and dangerous man. Go Reagan dems- give us victory in November!

You don't suppose
that B Hussein O is the 12th imam here to destroy the world, do you? He certainly acts that way.

Change

As in "buddy, can ya spare a dime?"

A virtually LIMITLESS supply....

Too bad we can't harness the energy from all the hot air rising from capitol hill!

Obamamania
It's incredible how much attention charisma can warrant. Our nation has really taken a dive when it comes to appearance over substance. This will be another defining moment in our precipitous plunge into the morass of the welfare state.

Brujo
You say we need to listen to what he says from here on out and compare it with what he's said before.
You're right. I know it will be different. He will be spending the next months backing away from previous far left stances in order to get elected. To me this translates to: everything he says from here on out is a lie.

b hussein
it is readily apparent that all we have in b hussein is just another dim promoting recycled ideas from past failed dim candidates and just more enhanced failed dim policies and programs.

B hussein obviously believes he can tax america into prosperity. But the idea of increasing taxes for people already having troubles meeting the added expense of increeased food and gas prices, explains someone with no concept of economics.

We have an infrastructure that needs attention yetr b hussein wants to send billions to the UN as though it is america's obligation to finance the end of world poverty. The UN has proven they are both a corrupt and useless organization that is currently the private club of tinpot dictators bought off by the oil sheiks and mad mullahs.

But in the final analysis all that makes b hussein unique is his skin color. That in itself is neither an advantage nor a disadvantage but that is all the coastal elitist have based his canidacy on. His lack of resume and lack of experience and his naive view of the world makes him a horrible choice for america at this point in time.

The dims could have done better in promoting him as a candidate and america deserves better than him as the next president. We don't need recycled dim failures repackaged with a bright smile but empty ideas and empty rhetoric


Ghosts of failures past
VDH is correct. The changes Obama touts (to the extent he actually gives specifics) are the same failed policies of the past. His economic policies are a toxic mix of FDR and Jimmy Carter.

FDR was able to take a downturn in the stock market and turn it into the Great Depression. He did this by massive increases in government spending and by crippling the free market with crushing taxes and regulation. Exactly what Obama wants.

Carter's economic policies gave us the sickest economy since FDR's Great Depression. His Windfall Profit Tax insured a shortage of energy supplies and gas lines. Energy is the lifeblood of a growing economy, and Carter took a knife to the veins.

His programs were so destructive they actually produced the paradoxical combination of sky-high unemployment and high inflation in a shrinking economy. The word 'stagflation' had to be invented to describe Carter's economy. It was a miserable time, yet Obama advocates the same policies that created it.

Obama is either not very bright, or he believes widespread deprivation is a good thing.

Nellie
If you are vehemently against abortion you would do well to do some research on your guy Obama. He not only supports abortion, but went to bat for late term abortion, and not only that, took a leadership role on legislation that would ensure that it would be legal to allow a baby who accidentally lives through the abortion to be allowed to exsanguinate. He argued that if that clause were not added, the baby could be declared a "person" and would thus have legal rights.


scottK
Given McCain's class warfare rhetoric opposing the Bush tax cuts and his comments that oil companies should not be allowed to keep "excess" profits, no one can say with any real confidence what McCain will do about taxes. He's as likely to sign a tax increase by the Democrat Congress as he is to veto it. But we know for certain that McCain favors forcing our country to reduce CO2 emissions by 70% in the next few decades. That alone will destroy our economy.

I will also guarantee you that if McCain gets the blame for many of the same policies Obama would have supported, the Democrats will have another 40-year majority in Congress and more than their usual share of presidents. People already equate Bush with conservatism. How much worse will their perceptions be after a McCain administration? Since most Americans are still - despite public school and MSM propaganda - more conservative than leftist on most issues, McCain will turn them off to the Republican Party.

And if McCain is president, the Senate Republicans will not filibuster anything McCain proposes or supports.

The good news this year is that we can maintain a cloture-proof Republican minority in the Senate to stop Obama's policies. But we have to work hard to elect or re-elect the good Senators. DO NOT STAY HOME OUT OF DISGUST.

How much stock??
How much Major OIL CO. Stock do the Most ILLUSTRIOUS Dems in the Senate and House Own??!! The oil speculators and chief execs. LOVE the present senario! I will bet my life that the "No Drill Dems" own lots of oil stock in thier Portfolios. Why don't we ask the Magical Mystical [NON?]- Muslim Candidate, Barack Hussein Obama, and his Minions Pelosi/Reid/Boxer/Schumer et al. to disclose how many Shares they have in Exxon/Shell/B.P.--- and, what is the amount of WINDFALL Dividends, they are being PAID!! FOLLOW THE MONEY, No -Body [especially crooked, devious politicians], gives a RAT'S BEHIND [really] about the BOGUS AL GORE Global Warming Hoax!! There's Mega-Bux to be made, playing both ends against the Middle. [The "Middle" being the Taxpayers/Citizens of this Country.

He obviously hasn't thought it through
Obama supports oil from tar sands and oil shales, but not from offshore drilling? He's obviously more concerned about sounding trendy than he is about the environment.

Offshore drilling has not caused environmental disasters for a long time. The Norwegians have been drilling offshore for years without any negative impact. Opposing offshore drilling is a knee-jerk anachronism from mindless environmentalist religion.

Meanwhile, he expresses support for oil extraction from shale and tar sands. These processes involve something similar to strip mining whole mountains, followed by a steaming process that requires oceans of water from western rivers that are already grossly overtaxed for irrigation.

The man simply has no clue at all. If he were a REAL environmentalist, not just the "look at how righteous I am" kind, he'd demand the lifting of restrictions on offshore drilling and make sure any oil shale schemes pay for their water use.

One more illustration of just how completely unfit Obama is to run even his own Senatorial staff, let alone the greatest country in the world. He's not remotely ready for Prime Time.

(Unrelated to this topic, please visit my political blog, "Plumb Bob Blog: Squaring the Culture," at http://www.plumbbobblog.com. Click on my nickname and follow the links on my townhall blog. Thanks.)

Jerry...invested!!
Shaka bra.....
The dumbacrats are so invested in losing this was.....just to spite GWB, that are willing to sacrifice our troops, our nation's name, much like what happened in Viet Nam. It is so obvious just in their words and actions (or sometimes lack of). If we win there, that's a defeat for them. Some lib Senators have even admitted that it would REAL bad if we won. Can you believe that? The defeat of our troops (which is a defeat for GWB) is the only way they can defeat a Repub candidate. And continuous berating of Bush and the war is their only chance of getting Barry in.....even though we are winning. Have you seen the latest TV add by the commie group, moveon.org? It's a very sad & pathetic attempt to shove their propaganda down the throats of those that are UNinformed.

Iraq
I sure wish someone, anyone, would ask Obama a very simple question. Does he believe that success in Iraq is important, or does he feel that success in Iraq is not important. If he does not believe that success in iraq is important, why does he believe that success is not important.

Nellie #15
I hope that you are ready to pay your share of the 47 TRILLION DOLLARS+ IN NEW TAXES that B Hussein O will bring with him: $1 per gallon gas tax increase plus 845 BILLION DOLLARS TO THE UN plus Rangel's new ONE TRILLION DOLLAR TAX plus the 45 TRILLION TAX properly called the ALGORE ENRICHMENT TAX.

sdeakins #17: Change is what Obama will leave in our pockets after he takes everything else out.

A WORD TO THE WISE TO NANCY PELOSI, ET AL AND HARRY REID, ET AL:

WHEN KING GEORGE III AND PARLIAMENT CAUSED THE FIRST AMERICAN REVOLUTION, THEY HAD 3000 MILES OF OCEAN AND A LARGE NAVY BETWEEN THEM AND THE PEOPLE THEY WERE SCREWING. THAT IS WHY THE AMERICAN PATRIOTS DIRECTED THEIR DISPLEASURE AT A SHIP LOAD OF TEA.

NOW, WHEN CONGRESS IS CAUSING THE SECOND AMERICAN REVOLUTION, THEY ARE WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF THE AMERICAN PATRIOTS THAT THEY ARE SCREWING. THESE PATRIOTS WILL NOT BE THROWING CASES OF TEA OVERBOARD TO SINK OR FLOAT OUT TO SEA

Ignorance is strength!
"So what are the Democrats thinking?" asks Dr. Hanson.
They are probably thinking that you are not thinking. They are thinking that the public is profoundly ignorant about economics and history.
They are thinking you will vote emotionally for rhetoric without substance. They are thinking that Orwell ("1984") had it corrent:
"Ignorance is strength!"

Pitiful, NOT Presidentail
This guy has whined about his ears being made fun of 40 years ago and various other things. Affirmative Action has so insulated him that being challenged or ridiculed is COMPLETEY foreign to him. The same goes for his wife who lives in a country SO racist that she & Messiah had to pay back her student loans while both were earning a MEASLY 6 figure income. What a pair of dopes.

ratus
like your plan. have to try it sometime

Here's another example of..............
just how much we don't really know who the REAL BarryBarrackObama is. Is the U.S., or the free world really ready for this guy?

http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=67410

Obama the Luddite
http://www.israpundit.com/2008/?p=1325

B Hussein O says:
America is the greatest nation in the world. I need your help to change that.

We are in a recession. People need jobs/money/food/ energy.
His solution: Raise taxes and give an extra 845 BILLION DOLLARS to the UN.

We are in a recession. Unemployment is higher than it’s been in years.
His solution: Amnesty for 20 million illegal alien lawbreakers.
.
Gasoline costs $4.10 per gallon. His solutions: A new tax, on the oil companies, which will be passed on to us-the-people-who-pay-all-taxes, thereby increasing the price to $5.10 per gallon.

Nothing has changed since the 1970’s
Taxes have greatly increased in number and in rates.

Oil companies have high profits.
The cost of gasoline:
Federal pump tax: 18.4 cents per gallon
PA state pump tax: 32 cents per gallon
All federal, state, county, municipal, and school TAXES of all other kinds = 1/3 of the price.
Speculators’ add-0ns: Most of the rest of the price
Foreign nations’ prices: Much of the rest of the price
Oil-tanker ship charges and oil-spill insurance
The cost of the alcohol used to dilute the gasoline
The oil companies’ cost to process oil into gasoline = less than 25 cents per gallon.
The oil companies’ profit: 9 CENTS PER GALLON (2.2%). The oil companies get the large majority of their profit from outside the country, not from the American People.

Barack is accusing the oil companies of price-gouging. BARACK REPRESENTS ALL TAXATION, WHICH IS A FULL 45% OF THE TOTAL PRICE BEFORE HIS NEW TAX INCREASE.

The price could be greatly reduced by hiring the oil companies to drill, pump, refine, and deliver OUR offshore oil to us. There would be no speculators’ add-ons, no foreign nations’ price, no oil-tanker charges and oil spills. No dilution-with-alcohol cost would give us a full gallon of gasoline.


Examples of Change
http://husaria.wordpress.com/2008/05/29/barack-and-michelle -obamas-black-nationalism-in-their-own-words/

It contradicted the morality my mother had taught me, a morality of subtle distinctions–between individuals of goodwill and those who wished me ill, between active malice and ignorance or indifference. I had a personal stake in that moral framework; I’d discovered that I couldn’t escape it if I tried. And yet perhaps it was a framework that blacks in this country could no longer afford; perhaps it weakened black resolve, encouraged confusion within the ranks. Desperate times called for desperate measures, and for many blacks, times were chronically desperate. If nationalism could create a strong and effective insularity, deliver on its promise of self-respect, then the hurt it might cause well-meaning whites, or the inner turmoil it caused people like me, would be of little consequence. If nationalism could deliver. As it turned out, questions of effectiveness, and not sentiment, caused most of my quarrels with Rafiq. [Rafiq al-Shabazz, a “self-professed [Black] nationalist”]

–Barack Obama, “Dreams From My Father

http://husaria.wordpress.com/2008/04/17/obama-supports-tota l-handgun-ban/

American Hunters and Shooters Association (AHSA, a front for anti-Second Amendment entities) is running an ad in Pennsylvania that says Obama supports the rights of hunters and shooters. “The Democrats and Gun Control” from the Wall Street Journal exposes Obama for the liar he is.

As a state senate candidate in 1996, Mr. Obama endorsed a complete ban on all handguns in a questionnaire. The Obama campaign has claimed he “never saw or approved the questionnaire,” and that an aide filled it out incorrectly. But a few weeks ago, Politico.com found an amended version of the questionnaire. It included material added in Mr. Obama’s handwriting.

NO MORE BABY STEPS

.....Up until now the Democrats (Socialist/Marxists) have been content to nudge us gently toward Socialism, the boiled frog theory, one day we wake up under a Socialist Government without knowing how we got there ...

....Apparenty no more, ...in response to our energy crunch, which they created, some Democrats are now calling for outright Nationalization of American Oil and Energy companies ...the scary part is that these announcements were met with stoney silence instead of the panic in the streets they deserved ...

.....This is one giant step into Socialism and the death of our Representative Republic and our free market Capitalist Economy ...this is Nanny State Big Brother Government where a small cadre of elitists control the proletariat who are all equally poor ...

.....This is the change Obama is talking about and there should be panic in the streets .....COLOSSUS

We need to listen to Obama...
regarding what he has said in the past and what he is saying now. He is a leftist. His programs to save us will cost a great deal of money and this money will not come from the super rich. It will come from us. He has demonstrated that he will not tolerate criticism. He has stated specifically that he is going to terminate the development of military combat systems. If elected we will surrender our treasury and well being to the world.

more...change for the worse
While finally admonishing many black men in America for abandoning their children and asking them to be better fathers and engage in their children’s lives. Yet at the same time he fully supports and promotes the failed government policies that have encouraged and promoted such behavior. How is that going to bring about a needed change of behavior of many black men or all men for that matter, towards their own children? How can a man who put his own children in a pulpit subjecting them to listen to the rants of a racist minister actually lecture anyone black or white for that matter on being a parent?

I don’t know about the rest of you folks, but this is not the “change” I’m signing up for.



more change for the worse
Or maybe he will continue the disastrous failed policies of Carter, Clinton…in their non-confrontational policies of dealing or mainly NOT dealing with radical islamofascism and the terror it has wrought upon the earth? Maybe Barack Hussein Obama wants to open more madrasses here in the US in an effort of his diplomacy? Or maybe he meant because he supports giving enemy combatants (during the time of war) the same rights as US citizens? A disastrous decision and something that has NEVER happened in our 232 years of existence as a nation.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/06/13/mccain-condemns-su preme-court-guantanamo-ruling/

Or maybe it’s the change to allow abortionist to abandon birthed babies on shelves to die. Or the ones that partially birth them, then crush their little skulls and suck their brains out? You know like he and his wife have supported in the past.

“The truth about Obama is that he is not a good man.

He is a bad man.

Good men don't turn a blind eye to unrepentant ex-terrorists; support vile, anti-American bigots; lie about their core beliefs; and look down on traditional Americans. Most significantly, good men don't allow beautiful babies -- the least among us -- to be discarded like refuse and die miserable, lonely deaths in dark utility rooms. In fact, if we cannot call Obama a bad man, there is no such thing as a bad man. And calling him a good man doesn't just strain credulity, it puts it in the hospital in traction.

Ah, yes, hope, change, unity, infanticide, bigotry, terrorism, Obama . . . good? We all know what is wrong with this picture.”

http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.am ericanthinker.com/2008/04/when_will_we_admit_the_truth_a.ht ml

more...change for the worse
Change? Then why the need to continually associate with left-wing radicals from the 60’s, i.e. Ayers, Dorn…et al? Why does he have so many extremist supporters? Why the need to continually associate and spend 20 years with known hate-filled preachers? Preachers who show more condemnation and bigotry of the US and particularly its residents of Caucasian descent? Why continue to promote disharmony and divide people based on race? What really matters more content of character or race? We need to have someone who can unite all Americans instead of speaking to segments and allowing the separatism between races to continue and to encourage it.

Or maybe it’s the change that allows him to associate and get money from the likes of Tony Rezko, Moveon.org,
Or maybe the change he continues to speak of is to neuter our military, leave us extremely vulnerable to China, Russia, rogue states that have and continue to seek nuclear weaponry, while dismantling ours?
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=2976456964 65868

“Barack has promised change. And as indicated by the public support that his candidacy has received by accused terrorist fundraiser Hatem El-Hady, Obama’s version of change that terrorist and their US supporters can believe in.”
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=6203178 D-C782-42E2-8D56-765A3D7EDCD7

change for the worse...
Change? Then why 3 of the same old same “old” Clinton national security advisors?
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D91CD2TO0&show_art icle=1&catnum=3

Change? Then why the need for former Clinton VP, hypocritical “Java the Hut,” don’t do as I do, do as I say, energy Hog , Al Bore, err I mean Gore endorsement? Even though Gore’s personal electricity consumption is up 10%.
http://tennesseepolicy.org/main/article.php?article_id=764

Change? Then why the continued need to denigrate our current President who is not running again and will be leaving office shortly? Isn’t this what all democrats and the media have been doing for nearly 10 years already? Talk about the SOS.

Change? Then why the same energy plan that has gotten us into this energy “crisis” we are currently in? We are already pursing alternative sources in many forms and fashion. We have reduced. We have recycled. However, that is not reducing the price of oil and gas. Obama doesn’t seemed worried about that, he evidently is more concerned about how the price of gas got so high so “quickly.” Talk about the “same” continued and misguided policies… A policy that is currently allowing the Chinese to drill just a few feet from our protected areas, yet we can’t? Australia known for its pristine beaches somehow manages to drill hundreds of offshore rigs a year yet it’s beaches remain beautiful? Even in the aftermath of multiple Gulf of Mexico hurricanes, there has been NO appreciable damage to the environment from the rigs there. Where’s the change in keeping to these same misguided policies?

Nellie in NY writes :
Poor Nellie . She being a Typical Far left of Teddy Kennedy only speaks of Emotions , Feeling and never Economics or Facts .
She discounted Oboma Hate America Nut Minister as we ''real term Whites "don't understand . So I guess only Blacks understand hate ?B/S !
You make no mention of the great article and are no more than WE NEED THE BROTHER who will create the first Socialist Marxist President in America ever .
He is staight out of KARL MAIX TEACHING .
ROB THE RICH AND REDISTRIBUTE OU WEALTH .....THAT IS OBOMA CHANGE FOR AMERICA SADLY .

Where's Monkey Girl?
Monkey Girl doesn't come here because she cannot defend against the facts and she would have to wear triple strength rose-colored glasses so that her Messiah changes are seen as all good! No surprise. The hypocrits of Bush, McCain, Huck, Romney and the like will never see the truth for what it it...racism and socialism at it's best. No experieince required: Black and beautiful and the use of the words Change you can believe in for PResident.

Democrats on Hell
Dick Durbin said: "...the hottest ring in Hell is reserved for those in politics who attack their opponents' families..."
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Move over Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot and those who have killed over 100,000,000 and counting - Democrats have identified the 'real' villains in all of history.

Democrats believe that "Obama-Messiah" (notice the hyphenation) and "Messiah-Wife" should not be criticized for saying things like:

"There is no doubt in my mind that as a member of the black community, I am obligated to this community and will utilize all of my present and future resources to benefit the black community first and foremost". Michelle Obama
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According to Democrats this is not 'racism' but the duty of all blacks.

Democrats say to critize such statements by Michelle Obama will reserve you the "the hottest ring in Hell".

*Free tinfoil hat fitting for all Obama voters.

: Sen. Obama & the North American Union
Barack Obama YOU HAVE SAID NOTHING about the N A U (SPP.GOV). You MUST know this “business deal” was done by Pres. Bush with his friend, confidant & past Pres. of Mexico, V. Fox. This quietly done "deal" was ORALLY solidified at the Bush ranch. It was never debated by the legislature or told to American citizens. We now see plans for a Super Highway, where thousands of acres of tax payer property will be confiscated through (the Kelo vs New London Court rule) eminent domain process. PRIVATE PROPERTY IS CENTRAL TO THE FREEDOM AMERICANS ENJOY. The N A U- “NAFTA Super Highway” deal negates this basic, American right to own, retain, safeguard and preserve property owned by families, in many cases, for generations. The NAU, surreptitiously done by President Bush in 2005, with NO debate or vetting by the legislature, completely disenfranchised Americans of any knowledge of or say in the matter. It is the equal of a virtual coup in surrendering U.S. sovereignty to a trilateral entity that, in the form of a N A U, could equal the European Union that dictates to the citizens of 27 European states. Senator, you need to tell American your position on preserving U.S. Sovereignty. The N.A.U., if actively denounced in your campaign, could win you the presidency. Your opponents have never talked of this vital issue - - meanwhile the Bush admin. is proceeding as thought this private scheme is a “done deal”. America is watching, listening & waiting to see how you stand on this critical matter. P.S. House Concurrent Resolution 40 states Congressional DISAPPROVAL of the NAFTA Highway & N A U. You are NOT among the 48 COSPONSORS of the bill. Why? Ron Paul introduced H.R. 5191, prohibiting use of federal funds for N A U highway projects. Back this bill & show you support the sovereignty, independence & freedom of America.

why is Hanson taken seriously?
Obama has suggested pulling out of Iraq in a timely fashion. Hanson tries to pretend this will be unpopular with our allies because two of them have sent more troops to Afghanistan. Now I can understand confusing Iraq and Iran, they differ by only one letter, but how does one confuse Iraq and Afghanistan? France and Britain will not be sending troops to Iraq any time soon. Obama is not advocating pulling out of Afghanistan. So why would our allies be upset that their policies agree with Obama's?

Similarly, applying sanctions and engaging (in the form of talking as Obama has suggested) are not inconsistent policies. The idea of talking with our enemies is not to pretend they are our friends. Is Hanson just an idiot?

Again with energy policy, the pluses may outweight the minuses with additional drilling. But any effect of opening new fields will be in the future. One doesn't simply tap and have oil this driving season. So Hanson's argument that drilling fixes problems now while Obama's proposals help in the future is simply nonsense. They are both future oriented proposals. Obviously Hanson is entitled to his opinions, but he seems to misrepresent the basic facts too often.

Djinna: Seduction by a Demagogue
You have verbalized my concerns/fears EXACTLY!
I see in Obama all the 'underpinnings' of a master demagogue! He is fooling SO MANY people
in particular those in the MSM and some of his
'lofty' pronouncements smack of totalitarian
impulses(i.e. "we can't eat as much as we want...etc.) Power corrupts - and with him - power will corrupt completely. I am normally an optimistic person, but he gives me some really bad vibes!

Lestat, 1:46 AM post.

Even though I wish that it was not so... I believe that you are so right about Iran.

The Democrats and their hopelessly corrupt and willing accomplices in the MSM may indeed have poisoned the atmosphere and sown the seeds of an unspeakable future horror... a smuggled nuke incinerating one of our cities.

If that ever happened, the sheer hysteria and the retaliatory aftermath would be beyond words.

But nothing that we did as a payback would ever bring back any of our loved ones. Nor would it save any of those doomed with a slow but agonizing death by radiation poisoning.

But then again... maybe you are wrong about Iran, and all we would loose with Obama is a chunk of our money and a few meaningless jobs.

Besides, when all those creditors come calling... good ol' Barry will be there for us.

Right?

Individual Interpretation
It is interesting to me that the Moslems who were herded out of camera range at a recent Oblahblah rally commented that they thought Barak stood for "hope and change."

"Hope" and "Change" are political Roarshock Tests. Whatever is important to you, this is what you will imagine the Obamster will give you when he gets power.

I remember listening to a radio talk show where a black caller with a hostile attitude said in a threatening manner, essentially, "just wait" until "everything changes," as if the changes Obama would make would stick it to Whitie.

It was bizarre to me, because this host gives plenty of air time to black people to express their opinions.

Sometimes it comes across as a kind of mental illness, this projection that Lefties make on the vague words of Oblahblah.

on overcoming a huge hurdle.
VDH is simply wrong when he claims the "conservative", post-2003 governments in France, Germany and Italy pretty much endorse the same policies Bush administration does, if he throws Iraq into the mix.

I notice he conveniently left Iraq out of it.

But Iraq was, and is, fundamentally intertwined with this administration. It will(or already has)defined this administration.

And on Iraq, the French, Germans and Italians do not support Bush.

And I think it fair to say France, Germany and Italy disagree with Bush fundamentally on energy policy, greenhouse gasses, etc.

Don't get me wrong here.

While I think the Europeans are right, and the administration is wrong, on Iraq, I think Bush is right, and the Europeans are wrong, on energy policy.

Kyoto is a sham. We were right to reject it.

VDH is probably right in that too many Obama supporters mindlessly embrace "change", with no regard to what it means.

But let's be clear.

By overwhelming numbers the American people not only think Iraq was a blunder(and that assessment will not change for it now has devolved into whether the effort was worth the horrendous cost), but also think our nation is on the wrong track.

Given astronomically high gas prices, reduction in American's purchasing power and living standards resulting from devaluation of U.S. dollar and shrinking equity in American homes, rising food prices, hugely unpopular war in Iraq, the appeal for "change", in and of itself, must not be minimized.

The horrible Bush legacy just might be of such magnitude as to propel Obama to victory.

I am not supportive of Obama.

I favor McCain, actually.

And McCain is right on taxes.

Obama favors taxing Americans to deal with global poverty.

That is plain nuts.

But the legacy of the current adminstration is a huge hurdle for McCain to overcome this November.

Change we don't need!
If you like socialized medicine, income redistribution, social engineering, paying more taxes for less, an even more bloated, inefficient federal government, un-fettered abortions and the rape of the Second Ammendment, than Obama is your man.

Obama and Hillary
I still want to know what Obama promised Hillary to play nice. The media seem to be ignoring this.

Change....
This is what Obama will take from your pocket to give to other folks. Obama has pretended to be above the average political shenanigans but has been repeatedly caught in the same old act. Of course he responds that he is being smeared and there is absolutely nothing to more to be gained by talking about his problems. Obama is like the kid who gets caught and confronted for his transgressions and when it comes time to explain; he points his finger over the shoulder of his questioner and hollers "Look!". When the questioner turns to away momentarily to look, Obama slithers away quickly and silently out of sight.

MRC

I am happy to see you are now posting legible things.

Trust me, you WILL find that more people will read them.

I do suspect that was part of your 'Master Plan'.


1. Draw attention.

2. Slowly lighten up on my pretended illiteracy.

3. Wait until I am 'outed' by some fool conservative.

4. Gradually, improve my posts.

5. Slowly sneak in things to antagonize the conservatives.

6. Cause outrage, and confusion when they cannot understand my locus of reason.

7. sit bak n suk down meny slugs of jerk danials, cuz it klod hear in minnie soda.
"eny whey, Ratzazz, yu du be a jerk tu!!!
smok dat in yi bung !!!!!

~~~

You are the best! Cool, guy.
I would love to know your TRUE life story.

You are without a doubt, the VERY best satirist, I have ever seen.

I am tempted to get a 'Yahoo', throwaway account, to converse with you via email.

Are you interested? (pls lemme no on several columns, ah don vizit all...)

yer fren,
da rat

Rats
(and mice)

What the other 5 candidates
could not bring to the American political table is a strong spiritual base which will be Obama's grounded force forward. He will be able to lean on that foundation, not laid in sand, as others have attempted to do.

This, you mark my words, will carry his presidency so long as he does not sway from it. America did not understand the terminology of the church he attended. But that does not make its message (which was for the good of this nation) lose its position in God's eyes.
Nor does our need to break our own mesmorizm 'that we can go on for eternity wasting this earth's resources, selfishly and irresponsibly'.

I sure as Hell, don't feel I should have to pay for millions of Americans who DID thoughtlessly and recklessly waste what I carefully and respectfully saved by sacrificing. But I know, despite my business sense, that we are our brother's keepers. You waste. I must pay.

He is not the sinner. Those who belief themselves above the realm of sacrifice and in the realm of me-me-me. Jet-setting daily. They are the sinners. Hit them with your arguments. Let them pay for their sins.

Obama hopefully, will balance the load we each must absolutely wake up and face. He's got a good head on his shoulders and as close to a clean record as one in this post can have. His advisors will be utilized to the fullest
capasity, because he is smart; and because he loves this country.

God Bless Him.

We'd be smart to support him in prayer and in deed. We owe that to our country, to our next generation (for which, thus far we display little hope) and to ourselves.

I am vehemently against abortion. I am vehemntly against drug use and abuse in this land (and particularly its targets via television and magazine ads). Will he address my concerns? Maybe. Probably not. But I feel it is my duty to address them. And I will.


THE NEW ROBERT!

CRMCRM! MRCMRC! Does it matter?

We have another poor soul for certain. This sad individual with the weird name might even eclipse Robert. Hard to imagine, I know. Robert at least had more intelligence than Mr. Fifth Grade Education. I'd suggest "Fifth Grader" as a new name for MRCMRC but it would insult fifth graders.

It would even insult (I'm not kidding one bit) my four-year-old grandson.


Redneck Rowly...

Vic D Hanson ~ Great column.

I have a different change in mind, but...

OK, another time.

~~~

Off topic :

Yu RedNeck Rowly, I left a couple hoomer comments fer ya on Paul Greenberg's columun.

(enjoy)

conservatives dont get change
sometime (often?)you consrrvatives dont get it. itold you when this whole thing started that the dems were going to run against bush not m=ccain. obamn and change are doing ezxctly thet. the assumption , and i think a valid one is that anything will do after bush . anything thasy even remotely tastes like change is welcome. this is what he means , you keep looking for specific items specific things he is going to promise the american people as a part of this change. the only change he is promising is a change from bush. think on this what he does will make a lot more sense

Excellent Column!

Hanson cited The BIG L Club:

Mondale, McGovern, Dukakis, Gore and Kerry.

Let's HOPE Obama's name is added to the membership role in 2008.

Sweatshirts with a huge "L" on the front is worn by club members. Mr. Empty Suit would look great in a medium. It's a perfect fit!

Why CHANGE that?

Banana Republic
Looks like we are well on our way to become a bona fide "Banana Republic". California, Michigan, Ohio are a bit ahead of the rest, thanks to liberal Democrat "leadership"...Obama's proposals can be equated with "keep them bare-foot, pregnant and behind the stove" philosophy.
I am looking for a candidate who is NOT a lawyer or even having a College "education", they tend to be thoroughly brainwashed into Marxist principles.

Kennedy vs.
Clinton politics this election.

To be honest...
... I would much rather see him lose because Americans dusted off their 'racist' past and voted against him on that basis, than to see him win because Americans are so stupid as to buy the snake oil he is selling.

Who is the party of "Big Business"
Not only have the dems made certain that the supply of oil remains tight by strangling the supply side, once Obama (and maybe even McCain) is in the White House, they will take care of the demand side, adding forty million new Americans, all of whom will need oil as they clothe, shelter and transport themselves into the American Dream.

THere won't just be heavy demand for gasoline (oil) (which is necessary to bring most products to market), but these forty million won't be sending money home to Mexico any longer, they'll be buying toasters and toyotas and anything else they can afford, guaranteeing American businesses growth forever - or at least growth until this nation becomes a bankrupt third world socialist state.

Obama & Keats
John Keats in Ode on a Grecian Urn, wrote the lines
"Beauty is truth... Truth beauty."

It sounds good but it doesn't mean anything. Sort of like "Hope and Change."

I wonder if Dr. VDH could provide an analogous figure from the classical world for Sen. Obama. Perhaps Marcus Aurelius, the philosopher Roman emperor. He is revered at least in part because of his philosophical writings. The only problem is that they are close to unintelligible.

Ahem
"Take Obama's foreign-policy pronouncements... One is to engage our enemies and be nicer to our allies."

Actually, Obama said we should unilaterally invade our ally Pakistan to look for bin Laden. But I'm sure he changed that position somewhere along the way. He's absolutely incoherent.


But don't worry too much about Obama. Neither he nor McCain will do anything to stop Iran from building nuclear weapons. That's the most frightening scenario in this war and the MSM and Democrats have poisoned the atmosphere so much that we're powerless to stop it. We have to hope the Israelis will somehow stop Iran's program. Otherwise, it's only a matter of time before terrorists or Iranian agents smuggle an Iranian nuke (or several) into the U.S.

Then the mullahs will dance in the streets proclaiming the imminent return of the 12th imam.

Then after we nuke Iran out of existence, we'll have to deal with the screeching from the rest of the world because we dared to retaliate.

Seduction by a Demagogue
The thing that is distressing is the number of truly intelligent people who are seduced by the words "hope" and "change" as the writer of the article says, without any apparent awareness that he has actually said nothing. And he does precisely what the Webster dictionary speaks of,appealing to prejudices and making claims he cannot possibly fulfill to get elected. At some level every politician does that. This is what is frightening. Here it is reminiscent of other times in history, when people were hypnotized and whole societies fell. I worry about that now, more and more. And there is an additional fear, that the time is coming when there will be no allowance for disagreement with Mr. Obama. There are lots of red flags right now, and it may be too late already. I fear.

NOBAMA. NO CHAINS.
Chain, chain, chain ..... chain of fools. No one I've spoken to can give me one good reason to vote for this man.

The wrong way
Yobama proposes nothing new. Even his speeches are recycled lib garbage with the intellectual rigor of what a old theology prof of mine called "A cloud of gas with a halo". Thanks, but my B-hole is big enough right now.

Qualifications of Obama
Senator Barack Hussein Obama isn't qualified to be the deputy assistant undersecretary of the smallest federal agency, but we're about to elect him president? What madness is this?! He's never served in the armed forces (vs. Sen. McCain's 20+ years ending as a senior officer), he's 3 years out of the part-time Illinois senate, he was an ACORN rabble-rouser and an adjunct lecturer at University. That would be a mighty slim resume for a minor cabinet official, much less chief executive of the world's only superpower! Yes, I know: "Hope and Change." Vice President Dan Quayle was MUCH more experienced and qualified, and I don't see a rush to make him president!!
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