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Thursday, March 13, 2008
Victor Davis Hanson :: Townhall.com Columnist
The Tired Gaza Two-Step
by Victor Davis Hanson
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Gaza erupted in celebration last week to the news that a Palestinian had murdered Jewish religious students in Jerusalem. And almost daily terrorists send rockets from Gaza into nearby Israeli cities, hoping to kill civilians and provoke Israeli counter-responses -- and perhaps start another Middle East war.

This is not the way some imagined Gaza two and half years after the Israelis withdrew both civilians and soldiers from the territory in September 2005. At the time, the Palestinian Authority controlled Gaza, but in early 2007, Hamas took over in a violent civil war, claiming legitimacy after once winning a popular election.

Gaza has plenty of natural advantages. It enjoys a picturesque coastline on the Mediterranean with sandy beaches and a rich classical history. There is a contiguous border with Egypt, the Arab world's largest country and spiritual home of pan-Arabic solidarity.

The Palestinians are a favorite cause of the oil-rich Middle East, and would seem to be in store for at least a few billions that accrue from $100 a barrel oil. In short, an autonomous Gaza might have been a test case in which the Palestinians could have crafted their own Singapore, Hong Kong or Dubai.

Instead, despite Palestinian rule of Gaza, Hamas has continued its civil war with the Palestinian Authority, and looters have ruined infrastructure that was left by the United Nations and the Israelis. Mobs crashed the border crossing with Egypt. Hamas-led terrorists have launched over 2,500 mortar rounds into Israel, as well as over 2,000 Qassam rockets.

We all now know the familiar Gaza two-step. The Israeli Defense Forces respond to Hamas rockets with targeted air strikes against terrorist leaders or small-rocket factories. Hamas makes certain both these targets are intermingled with civilians in the hopes of televised collateral damage.

Hamas counts on the usual sympathetic European and Middle Eastern media coverage and commentary. Terrorists deliberately trying to murder Israeli civilians are seen as the moral equivalents of Israeli soldiers trying to target combatants who use civilians as shields. To the extent that the IDF kills more of the terrorists than Hamas kills Israeli civilians, sympathy goes to the "refugees" of Gaza.

This tragic charade continues because Hamas wants it to continue. Its purpose is to make life so unsure and frightening for nearby affluent Israelis that they will grant continual concessions, hopefully leading to such wide-scale demoralization that the Jewish state itself will collapse and disappear. In that regard, the last thing Hamas wants is calm and prosperity in Gaza, which would turn the population's attention toward living rather than killing and dying.

Hamas in Gaza also feels that the war is not static -- and that it is already winning on all fronts. As Europeans, Middle Easterners and the United Nations lecture Israel about "inordinate" or "disproportionate" responses, the terrorists' smuggled missiles increase in range, payload and frequency of attack.

Hamas has gained powerful patrons in Iran and the Lebanese Hezbollah. Both provide terrorist training and weapons as long as Gaza serves as a useful proxy in their own existential struggles against Israel.

On the world front, we've reached a new threshold in which evoking the destruction of Israel and the killing of Jews has become commonplace and almost acceptable. Hezbollah's leader, Hassan Nasrallah, publicly brags about hoarding the body parts of captured Israelis. Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad openly talks of Israelis in Hitlerian terms as "filthy bacteria" that should be wiped off the map.

Palestinians in Gaza can enshrine mass murderers and praise terrorist killers without much worry that the world will be appalled at their grotesque spectacles -- much less cease its sympathy and subsidies.

And what a world it is that enables Gaza! The Russians have fought a dirty war against Muslim separatists in Chechnya. The Chinese have been hunting down Muslim

separatist Uighurs who claim Xinjiang Province as their own. India wages bloody periodic wars against Muslim terrorists who claim Kashmir.

Imagine tomorrow that all of the above nations told the Gazans that their dispute is no more or less important to the world than similar land quarrels in Cyprus or Azerbaijan; that they are no more or less deserving of international money and sympathy than are the Chechnyans or Uighurs or the Muslims of Kashmir; or that the Israelis have as much right as the Chinese, Indians or Russians to retaliate and put down neighboring Islamist attacks. Then the crisis would shortly recede from the world's attention.

And Hamas in Gaza would either begin negotiating and building Palestinians' own civil society -- or face the sort of typical Chinese, Russian or Indian retaliation that Israel is quite able to unleash.

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Victor Davis Hanson is a classicist and historian at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University, and a recipient of the 2007 National Humanities Medal.

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Tired Gaza Two-Step
For those of you dimwitted do-gooders like shelfdesigner, who have simplistic hair-brained solutions to this Two-Step disaster, I have the Right fix: Put the UN on notice that the USA is withdrawing its membership and support for this ineffective and useless sham of an organization within 90-days. And, that the UN building will be completely demolished and torn down within one year. Further, any item abandoned, left on the premises after the 90-day notice, will be confiscated and contributed to the Palestinians who sorely need anything of value for their corrupt cause.
There isn't a solution to the Gaza terror problem other than our complete elimination of ties to the UN and their corruption and pandering to the Arab block. It's bad enough that we're purchasing 20% of their crude oil let alone allowing the Two-Step to continue. They just might get the Right Message.

Palos are village idiots
Let’s face facts – ordinary Palestinians are sacrificial pawns in a game controlled by the Arab & Persian Muslim leadership / mafia (including western liberals) And their too dumb to know it.

They’re a hopeless stone age people who couldn’t organise a round of drinks in a pub. Everyone’s going on about Hamas, but is Fatah any different? Same old stink, just different name.

The Palos need to realise they are the laughing stock of the world – even among Arabs. I’ve seen Palos taunted by other Arabs as coming from ‘no-man’s land’. The only reason they are feted by anyone is when they are a tool for someone else’s agenda. Have they ever thought about getting some self-esteem & building up their country for a better future for their children? That thought is too complex for them to grasp. Death is all they know – what a bunch of pathetic losers.

In 1967,
when the Israelis fought a defensive war against their Arab neighbors' invasions, they should have immediately annexed the territories they captured. They captured Gaza, Judea and Samaria (the 'west bank' in the current vernacular) and the Golan Heights. They should then have given the Arabs living there a choice, integrate or emigrate. Either become a law abiding Israeli Arabs (of which there are many today) or get out. They still should do that. The surrounding Arab countries should be pressured by the U.N. and the civilized world to accept the refugees, especially those who left during the war, who have been treated horribly in the intervening 40+ years.

To be fair about it, Bob;
Canada being a Crown colony in 1812, the invasion was a military offensive action into enemy territory.

Not that I think that fact validates Paolo's larger point...

The Facts.
Any money given to Israel is matched by money given to Egypt. US likes to give Israel aid so we can tell them how to fight their wars. Israel should refuse all aid from the US. They don't need it. They have more brainpower in that small population than we do in the whole US. Without the State Dept meddling in their affairs they would be free to blast the Palestinians to smithereens.

Paolo writes:
LMFAO, get real. Jefferson sent the marines into Tripoli to nail the Barbary Pirates because they kidnapped Americans, and interfered with U.S. trade, you know the almighty $. Our founders would have probably been far more hawkish than many of todays neocons considering our dependence on oil and global trade.

paolo
The founders were non interventionalists? Funny, I have been told that many times. I wonder if the founders got the message before we invaded Canada in the war of 1812?

That's right, the United States invaded Canada, something completely unnecessary from a non interventionalist point of view. So I do not need to tell you that "things are different in the 21st centuty". I need only point to the early years of the nineteenth century to disprove your assertion about the founding fathers.

What would the Founders have said?
Quick Answer: AVOID ENTANGLING ALLIANCES!

Why should America choose sides in a complex conflict in which both sides have a lot to answer for?

What bloody business is it of ours?

If V. D. Hanson wants to support the Israelis by donning a uniform and fighting the Palestinians, I say, have at it! Just don't make me pay for it; and don't make American soldiers pay for it in blood.

Conservatives need to discover the concept of non-interventionism in foreign policy. It is, after all, the original foreign policy of Washington and Jefferson. And please don't give me any neo-con drivel about how "that won't work in the twenty-first century."

Balderdash! The Founder's wisdom of non-interventionism is just as true (actually, if anything, more true) today than it was two centuries ago.

V. D. Hanson and other Neo-Cons are leading America down the primrose path to the everlastin' bonfire.

Why does this surprise anyone?
Let's see, anti-Israeli Arabs launching attacks against Israel from Gaza. Which decade are we talking about?

a. the sixties
b. the seventies
c. the eighties
d. the nineties
e. the first decade of the 21st century
f. all of the above

If you answered "f" you got it right. How many decades have to pass with so-called "Palestinians" breaking promises of peace for land before the world realizes the truth; that there is no such thing as a "Palestinian". The so-called "Palestinians" never claimed to be a nation, ever claimed there was a nation called "Palestine" until they began objecting to the presence on Israel, created in 1948 as Europe's "final solution" to the Jewish problem.

"Palestine" exists only as an excuse for Arabs to make war against Israel.

What is remarkable is how Jew-hating Arabs aim their hatred at the US when the Jews that were tranplanted onto the disputed land now called Israel were sent there by Europeans who were unwilling and unable to deal humanely with their own "Jewish problem".

Das Boutte
This would all go away if Arab governments didn't find it all so useful to wave the "martyrdom" of their "brother Arabs" (good enough to back in a fight, but not good enough to become naturalized citizens of any of the score of so of Muslim states) in order to distract their own otherwise restless people.

Any American who takes the *other* side (i.e., against besieged democratic Israel and for the murderous barbarians) should be subject to prosecution.

Hanson has written extensively on the subject of the Mexican invasion. Peruse his archive, or visit your local library for examples.

And there were ten plagues, not seven. Maybe prideful ignorance is #11, and you're parading yours for us today.

Palestine /Israel
Gaza is not the little piece of heaven you make it out to be. It is 25 miles long and has 2 million people crammed into it. That 2 million were forced out of Isreal when it became a nation. They retreated to refugee camps in Gaza which was then part of Egypt but was turned over to Israel after one of the wars. To live in Gaza is to be dead, is a quote from a Palestinian exchange student here.

Israel on the other hand has 6 million people and yearly receives aid to the tune of 4 billion a year from the US. Except last year Bush gave them an extra added bonus of 20 million additional. Yes that is your tax dollars being turned over to them. All the airforce jets, the tanks, and the Israeli military are bought and paid for with your dollars and that also includes the Security wall. We can't afford to build a wall between us and Mexico but we can finance Isreals'. And you wonder why the Arabs aren't happy with us. Enough anger that some of them learned to fly airplanes and crash them into the world trade center.

Sure they have oil rich Arab neighbors but their corrupt rulers are snatching all the money away and are not even investing in their own people much less providing aid to Palestine.

Makes you want to think about who the US should choose as friends and how heavily you really want to subsidize them, doesn't it.


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U.S. has the answer!
Not blaming Israel-- but the barriers and restrictions paralyzing trade and economics have resulted in a catastrophic unemployment rate in Gaza-- and the West Bank too.

Meanwhile, there's another catastrophe in California and Australia-- $Bil. bushfires (but here, to be polite, we refer to them as wildfires). We need a labor force to pick up trillions of dead branches and cart them away to be turned into ethanol or methanol to run cars.

If we can spend a trillion dollars to invade and police Iraq and Afghanistan, can't we spend a few billion hiring away, say, a half-million young Gazans and Westbankers to work in mobile labor units controlling biofuels in drought-stricken zones? They could work in the US from May to September, in Australia from November to March, spend the travel months making scrap lumber carpentry on boared slow cheap Hemigration vessels, and send some money to their mother in Gaza etc.

Note that this gives young men something useful to do who would otherwise be recruited into Suicide Bomber batallions. But we could also bring in the mothers wsith their young children. Halliburton can provide camp residence, nutrition, on-line English instruction and other known benefits. Within a few years the mid-east can be crawling with U.S.-educated technocrats and entrepreneurs developing sustainable economies.

Please, Mr. Hansen, this is a conservative idea. Sign on and lend your knowledge of Arabic to developing a positive program to secure Israeli survival and US federal budget solvency.

Islamofascism
Must comment Hansen for about as lucid and unflinching description of the realities surrounding Gaza, and the Arab-Israeli conflict.

All the nonsense which emanates from the Arab propaganda machines (and their cloying Euro "peace activists") can't obscure the simple facts of the situation: The area's Islamic Arabs have never accepted Israel's sovereignty, or for that matter even right to exist, and essentially haven't stopped attacking them since Israel declared independence in 1948.

All the wars fought there are resultants of that unremitting Arab hostility. And to expect Israel not to do what it has to do, or to return land won following defensive wars against Arab aggression, is holding them to a standard different from any other country, and patently absurd.

And the sad postscript to all this is to ask the question about why anyone doubts these obvious realities, or questions the well-documented cause of Middle East hostilities, i.e. Islamofascism, or tries to impose concessions on Israel which wouldn't be asked of other countries-- I believe the sad but incontrovertible truth lies in an age-old societal disease called anti-
Semitism (as in "I really have nothing against Jews, it's just Israel....")

Oh
I had no idea this would happen!

Hammas still hates Israel?!!!
It can't be. It just can't be.

As sung by Condi Rice.
_______________________________________

I still like Ron Paul's stance on this. Let's get out of Israel's way & let them do what they need to do to protect their country. How arrogant can we be to demand they make continual peace with a terrorist state? Its maximum liberalism to force Isreal to just lie down & take it when the rockets come over the wall.

Just like any other entitlement program, our fed gov will give you something (military technology) - in exchange, you give up your sovergeinty and freedom and you bow to our demands. That way our president gets to have a Nobel Peace Prize, which is, of course, the entire goal of politics.

Leftist Sympathizers
probably lost a goodly number of followers on 9-11 but, there are still plenty. The Ward Churchhills only say what many of their kind are thinking. Poor deluded souls.

Apollospeaks, wtf are you talking about. Bush is tossing that potatoe to the next guy or gal. What you suggest may become necessary though. Our credibility 'over there' is probably better than it ever has been by those that count. I don't count the terrorists. Our credibility with them is exactly the same as Israel's. They would love to wipe us off the map as well.

If It Were Americans that Were Murdered.
Gaza would be a craterscape.

Georgetwin
Ditto!

This is an easy fix
BOOM!

Back to life!

It's not just the Jews who can get a dead man to get up

Check this video of the "dead" Palestinians reaction after he was dropped.

http://server12.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?format=wm&s=9E84C40 A5DF511D6B9CE000629396D69

How many more have be revived?


Good point David
Singapore is a great place to live. Gaza was on the path of tourism until Arafat called for an intifada. They were prospering but that isn't what they want. Hamas hates Israel pure and simple. To say it is poverty's fault is a lie. the Arabs can live in a desert, its us Americans who hate poverty. Most poor don't even see themselves as such. Hamas just goes with the party line. If Hamas sympathizers say poverty's the reason and blame Israel then Hamas will toe that party line

I Blame The Israelis
The Israelis need to blast the Palis into oblivion. They are too timid to do that but that is what needs to be done. Their timidity is what encourages the Arabs. One needs to understand the Arab mentality. They are barbarians and only understand force.

Peace in Gaza
If the Israelis laid down their arms, there would be no Israel. If the 'Palestinians' laid down theirs, there would be peace.

Neither will happen until one side is destroyed.
Completely.

Wonder
Wonder when the Palestinians are going to wake up and realize that they are nothing more than a patsy and proxy for their rich cousins in Saudi Arabia?

There is no peace in Gaza because the only one interested in peace are the Israelis.

Vampiric
Trace the blood-line of the P's. Seek out what rightful claim they have to Israeli lands. Re-write the P's constitution to remove the articles (13, 16) which mandate the destruction of the state of Israel. Take case to World, (is that worst?) Court in Hague. Is there a valid claim by P's? If, after adjudication, no valid claim finding-wipe them OUT!!!!!!!!

Israel is still...
suffering the effects of the holocast and the Jew haters in Europe are still seeking the final solution of A. Hitler.

The rest of the world has been beaten into silence by the politically correct words of a few Jew haters.

I say the world should turn its back on the Jews and let them do what the old testament told them to do when they moved into Canaana. Wipe it clean and leave not an animal or human to live. This long festering wound of Palestinians vs Jews can be stopped but not by appeasement.

For Jean and aspacia
A detail most oft forgotten by the LSM is the blood-covenant signed between then "leader" of "Palestinians" Haj-amin Husseini (FYI, the same one who appointed Arafat as his "successor") and Adolf Hitler in 1936--which all Pali groups hold as sacred.

More apt comparisons (than Uighurs, Kashmiris, ...) which Hansen could have used:
(1) Sudeten Germans, post WW-2
(2) Silesian Germans, post WW-2
(3) Biharis (aka "East mohajir"), post 1971

All of which, like Palis, have historical record of collaboration with evil governments (first two, just like Palis, with Nazis).

Palestinians celebrate
I remember pictures of Palestinians dancing in the street to celebrate the tragedy that struck our country on 9/11. Before that, I felt compassion for the Israelis and the Palestinians equally. Now, all my compassion is reserved for Israel.

Even IF

Even IF Bush "fireD' Fallon,even if Hillary is elected and fires 1/2 the Pentagon,

what is it about "Commander in Chief" that is so hard to understand?

You tell your boss "with all due respect, that is the stupidest $^$^$&^$^$ idea I ever heard" and the CIC says "Do it!", unless it is illegal, you do it.

It's all the same mentality...
I was in Jerusalem last week and can testify that it's still probably as safe to be a tourist in Israel as in Los Angeles or Miami. You just have to avoid the wrong places and times. On only one of my ten days there did we stay away from the inner city out of prudence as Israeli F-16's streaked overhead, bound for Gaza.

Armed soldiers and police are everywhere. But it's kind of comforting because as a tourist you know that all those weapons are loaded and each bearer has been in the army. If something happens nearby just assume a low profile and they'll quickly take care of it!

The Jews came to Israel from all over the world. They came with vastly different cultures, habits, ways of worshiping. Being surrounded by a common ruthless enemy has united them, one positive result of intense adversity.

It's not the ordinary "Palestinian" Arabs that are the enemy of Israel. It's a small population of people with twisted minds who can't wait to shed human blood and descend to their grossly distorted image of "heaven".

We know them today as "terrorists", they've all got the same mentality.

America is preparing to choose a president. The options seem clear. Our choice is a president who will stand up and fight the enemy, as the Israelis do each day, and unite the country. Or a president who will take away the weapons our warriors need and throw smiles and olive leaves as the enemy rushes upon our cities, villages, women and children...

http://mittromney.townhall.com



Gaza
Hansen's claim is on target. There never will be peace until one side eradicates the other. The whole purpose of the military response is to destroy the enemy, and force unconditional surrender. This is what we did with the Nazis and Japanese, this is what Israel needs to do with her Arab neighbors.

Apollo
How is your claim on topic. What have you been smoking?

You have zero credibility!

Apollospeaks
Fallon was leaving in May ANYWAY! So what's your point? BTW, why was an Admiral running Centcom ANYWAY? That's a ground war not a naval war.

Liberals are simply too stupid to think past the title.

They *ARE* just beggin' for it...
--
...ain't they?

So what material force - forget about any sort of "moral suasion" that might accrue to Hamas and the population of the Gaza strip, 'cause they've long since pissed it away - bars the Israelis from lining up a brigade of Rome Plows, tread-to-tread, and just bulldozing the northern end of that territory as far back as necessary to leave Hamas with no cover from which to launch missiles?

And every time Hamas proves its got missiles of longer range (from their friends in Iran and/or Red China), just leveling the playing field further still.

The northern part of the Gaza Strip could wind up pretty much completely paved.

Which would leave the Palestinians plenty of unencumbered room for all that "dancing in the street" they like to do.










---------------
Niven's Law Nr. 1:

"Never throw sh!t at an armed man.

Niven's Law Nr. 1a:

"Never stand next to someone who is throwing sh!t at an armed man."

-- Larry Niven
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