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Thursday, June 07, 2007
Victor Davis Hanson :: Townhall.com Columnist
The Other D-Day
by Victor Davis Hanson
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Disturbing reports spread about the simultaneous advance and brutality of Stalin's Red Army on the Eastern Front. Some in the American government began to worry that a war started over freedom for Eastern Europe might end up guaranteeing its enslavement - Stalin's storm troopers merely replacing Hitler's.

While we were ground up in the hedgerows, in the Pacific theater thousands of American amphibious troops were lost during the Marianas campaign. True, we kept winning gruesome amphibious assaults, but we didn't seem to learn much from them.

Instead, far worse carnage lay in store at places named Peleliu, Iwo Jima and Okinawa. All these bloodbaths near the end of the war were characterized by the sheer heroism of the American soldier - who suffered terribly from intelligence failures and poor leadership of his superiors.

What can we learn, then, on this anniversary of the Normandy campaign?

By any historical measure, our forefathers committed as many strategic and tactical blunders as we have in Afghanistan and Iraq - but lost tens of thousands more Americans as a result of such errors. We worry about emboldening Iran by going into Iraq; the Normandy generation fretted about empowering a colossal Soviet Union.

Of course, World War II was an all-out fight for our very existence in a way many believe the war against terror that began on 9/11 is not. Even more would doubt that al-Qaida jihadists in Iraq pose the same threat to civilization as the Wehrmacht did in Europe.

Nevertheless, the Normandy campaign reminds us that war is by nature horrific, fraught with foolish error - and only won by the side that commits the least number of mistakes. Our grandfathers knew that. So they pressed on as best they could, convinced that they needn't be perfect, only good enough, to win.

The American lesson of D-Day and its aftermath was how to overcome occasional abject stupidity while never giving up in the face of an utterly savage enemy. We need to remember that now more than ever.

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Victor Davis Hanson is a classicist and historian at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University, and a recipient of the 2007 National Humanities Medal.

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Ba'athists, Nazis, and Other Fascists
"Iraq was and is no Nazi Germany"?

Do you know what year the Ba'athist party was created, kassandrasduplex?

1944.

The Ba'athist party of Iraq and Syria was clearly and deliberately based on and fashioned after one of the parties that was then in power in Europe. Can you guess which one?

(Hint: It was not Britain's Labour or Conservative parties.)

If the Ba'athists act(ed) so much like the Nazis, kassandrasduplex, in Syria as well as in Iraq, it was because they were based on the same root ideology. Thus I am sorry to have to inform you that the answer to the rhetorical (and filled-with-irony) question in your title ("NOW IRAQ IS NAZI GERMANY?!") is nothing if not "Jawohl!"

As for "the current efforts to privatize Iraq's major industries, foremost of course the oil industry, with the so-called sharing agreements the Bush Administration is pushing on an entirely unwilling Iraqi people", would you be kind enough to tell us in which way the Iraqi people was enjoying the country's oil profits while Saddam Hussein was building dozens of palaces, collecting hundreds of luxury cars, and stockpiling millions of dollars in cash (all the while imprisoning, torturing and murdering the country's citizens)?

"No the invasion of Iraq … is a bold-faced rape of a sovereign nation's resources not unlike the Japanese Rape of Nanking."

That must be why the streets of Baghdad are filled with shoppers, businessmen, and the sounds of intense traffic (the very people primarily targeted by the so-called "insurgents"). If anybody is mixing their history lessons up, kassandrasduplex, it is you. The rape of Nanking had little to do with a city's resources and everything to do with terrorizing (and murdering) vast swathes of the city's population.

Again, if American troops take so many casualties, it is precisely because they act carefully, humanely, and with caution; i.e, it is because they do *not* act the way the Imperial Army did in the 1930s. If (insurgent) bombs kill dozens of Iraqis in city markets and squares, it's because the population feels relatively secure, secure enough at least to circulate in town (something that was far from true in the Japanese-occupied cities of China).

"The estimated three-quarters of a million dead Iraqis probably would agree with me on that."

Sure, kassandrasduplex, anything you say. (And anything that the "many people around the world" say, i.e., "that of the two nations, the United States appears to be behaving more like a fascist aggressor than Iraq".) Strange that those dead Iraqis' relatives should not (agree with you on that), though. Unlike you, and unlike those oh-so-intelligent-sages-around-the-world-
who-never-had-to-experience-the-Ba'athist-
terror-firsthand, the Iraqis know that most of the dead have been deliberately targeted by members of the (now-defunct) Ba'ath party and people sympathetic to their odious cause, just as they know that those fascists caused most of the dead when they were in power during the years of their overlord, Saddam Hussein.

Same people, same methods. Only difference: much harder to do now that they are no longer in power and now that American firepower is in the way.

Wow, such hubris from a leftie
I saw the pictures.

Have you heard of non-alcoholic beer? I think it has what?? .5% alcohol if that?

A fake beer, while not a good idea for an alcoholic, is hardly what you claim i.e. that he is off the wagon.

Just be honest with yourself, it doesn't matter if he farted in public. He would have done it wrong or offended the flatulently challenged as far as your concerned.

If Bush came out tomorrow and declared the sky was blue you would find fault with it. It frankly doesn't matter what he says or does to someone as set in their ways as you, it is going to be wrong.

Oh and your rape of Nanking comparison....care to flesh that one out a bit?? This invasion resembles that attempt at genocide about as much as your rantings resemble an intelligent response.

I know it's a waste of time to try and converse on an intellectual level with you , but it's worth a try.
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