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Wednesday, July 11, 2007
Tony Blankley :: Townhall.com Columnist
The Senate: Chamber of Shame
by Tony Blankley
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The Senate is emitting an embarrassing level of emotional policy twitching on the topic of Iraq. Sen. Harry Reid can't take the war anymore. He "knows" it is lost. Sen. Olympia Snowe has just about had it with the Iraqi government. If they don't meet her benchmarks -- that's it. Sen. Mitch McConnell thinks "that the handwriting is on the wall that we are going in a different direction in the fall, and I expect the president to lead it." Who authored that wall graffiti, he doesn't say. After talking with grieving family members of one of our fallen warriors, Sen. Pete Domenici "wants a new strategy for Iraq."

I haven't seen such uncritical thinking since I hid under my bedsheets to get away from the monsters back when I was 3 years old.

Whether they are talking about war weariness, grief over casualties, fear of their upcoming elections, disappointment with the current Iraqi government or general irritation with the incumbent president: What in the world do such misgivings of U.S. senators have to do with whether we should continue to advance our vital national security interests?

None of these senators have even addressed the question of whether the United States is safer if we leave Iraq than if we stay. Isn't that the key question? The question is not whether the Iraqi government deserves American sacrifice on their behalf. Our sons and daughters are not fighting, being grievously wounded and dying for Iraq -- but for American vital interests. If this were just about Iraqi democracy, I might join the screaming for a quick exit.

But if al Qaeda can plausibly claim they drove America out of Iraq (just as they drove the Soviet Union out of Afghanistan), they will gain literally millions of new adherents in their struggle to destroy America and the West. We will then pay in blood, treasure and future wars vastly more than we are paying today to manage and eventually win our struggle in Iraq.

Our staying power, unflinching persistence in the face of adversity, muscular capacity to impose order on chaos and eventual slaughtering of terrorists who are trying to drive us out will do more to win the "hearts and minds" of potentially radical Islamists around the world than all the little sermons about our belief in Islam as the religion of peace. As bin Laden once famously observed -- people follow the strong horse.

We have two choices: Use our vast resources to prove we are the strong horse or get ready to be taken to the glue factory.

Even Bush's war critics who specialize in Middle East affairs (such as the Brookings Institute) believe that the immediate chaos in the Middle East that will follow our premature departure would likely involve not only regional war there, a new base for al Qaeda, but also a nuclear arms race that would quickly result in the world's most unstable region -- which possesses the world's oil supply -- armed with nuclear weapons on a hair trigger.

But the debate today in Washington is about none of these strategic concerns. It is exclusively about Washington's political timetable and when the president will bend to such political necessity. For self-admitted politics -- rather than national security -- to be driving decision making in wartime Washington is not only an unpatriotic disgrace -- it is a national menace.

Imagine the following fanciful discussion in April 1943:

FDR: "Ike, you're going to have to get the Normandy Invasion completed by June this year."

Ike: "But I need at least another year to assemble troops and materiel, establish logistics and strategy and train the men for the battle."

FDR: "Sorry. Several senators are feeling very uncomfortable with the war. Frankly, they have just had it. And several of them are worried about their re-election."

Ike: "My men are fighting and dying for yards in Italy right now -- and even so, they can't wait to take the war to Hitler next year in France. Tell those pantywaisted senators to unloosen their girdles, take an aspirin and go to bed -- and leave the fighting to my men."

FDR: "But we could lose the Senate."

Ike:" Better to lose the Senate than the war."

FDR: "I'm with you, Ike. You beat Hitler, and let me beat the Senate."

Ike:" My men thank you, Mr. President."

Of course, it is an absurdity to imagine such a conversation would have been possible during WWII. And it is a tragedy and disgrace that we are, in fact, having precisely such a conversation today.

But the worm will surely turn. And senators who today proudly call for retreat will then be hiding their faces in shame. And deservedly so. And the public will remember.

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Pitiful
The inability or choice of Congress to demonstrate long-range thinking about our engagement in Iraq and its role in protecting our national interest is appalling. The necessity for rallying in unity against enemies that have made their intentions clear has never been more desperate. Al Qaeda and the Iranian terrorist infiltrators in Iraq are patiently betting on their strong horse while our nation's representatives are short-sightedly focused on their next horse race of incumbency. Pitiful!

Yes, Mr. Blankley,
You are absolutely right. I have tried saying some of these things myself, but you say it so much better.

You are a man of courage and clear-thinking about the BIG picture.

If we think we have it bad now, if we should wimp out -- in disgrace -- and allow the enemy the fuel of victory, we will in the future be praying that the sky rain down mountains to cover our shame, regret, and horror.

This is a hope, not a certainty.
"But the worm will surely turn. And senators who today proudly call for retreat will then be hiding their faces in shame. And deservedly so. And the public will remember."

There are powerful forces at work striving to prevent the public from remembering, or caring much. They're visible all around us. We like to think that the Internet will save us from the defeatists who control the Old Media, but it's a race against time. If public sentiment isn't galvanized in favor of completing the mission quite soon -- my estimate is before the Iowa caucuses -- the Old Media and the Left will gain an unopposable edge. They'll have the most potent of all allies working on their side: time.

The Left knows how to persist. We on the pro-freedom, pro-American Right have either forgotten, or never learned it.

conservative delusions
Too many of my fellow conservatives seem unable to grasp the following realities:

1. In an open, democratic society like the U.S., it is impossible for the leader to maintain a facade of "staying power and unflinching persistence" when the public has openly given up.

These terrorists are clearly media-savvy. They can watch CNN along with everybody else. They know how our political system works. And they can see that no matter what noises Bush makes about continuing the war, the American public doesn't want to and it's only a matter of time before they get to vote for a new President to succeed Bush and give them what they want.

2. Bush cannot reverse that dynamic any longer. He has no "bully pulpit" left. He is simply not going to be believed by anyone who is not a loyal Republican (and even some 40% of them don't believe him anymore).

Therefore as of Election Day, November 2008, the American people will have proven that they don't have the "staying power and unflinching persistence" that the terrorists do.

Well, duh. So what else is new.
These terrorists are religious FANATICS. There is no way that civilized Western men and women can match in willpower and resolve, a bunch of religious fanatics who are actually eager to die and go to Paradise for their cause. If we had the right strategy, we wouldn't need to.

Tony Blankley and other conservatives keep bringing up World War II. But they only draw the lessons from it they choose to draw. Here's a lesson they haven't drawn: We faced mystical fanatics then too: the suicidal Japanese kamikaze pilots. But we didn't win the war by becoming as fanatical as they. We played to our strengths: flexibility, adaptability, technology and productive capacity. We used our strengths to shorten the war as much as possible, because it was understood even THEN that Americans would start to grumble "why haven't we won yet?"

If Bush's strategy depends on us winning a long, long contest of willpower with fanatics, then it's inherently flawed and won't work anyway.

There are other ways to win the War on Terror.

Well said Radlad
Bush speaks at mosques, when they are our enemies. He is a ignoramus when it comes to Islam and muslims as was Clinton and his defense of the killer muslims in Bosnia. These politicians today only want the troops to have courage while they kill and maim them through their pc conflicts to keep their power
Bring the men home now, or win.

Democratic Party Now Terrorist Party
If I were a Terrorist I would certainly join the Democrat Party.

The Democrat Party is now a party of AIDS disease spreadng Gays, Muslim Terror apologists, Baby killing, eugenic practicing, suicide supporting,elderly killing, military hating,free speech to porn graphics, de-listers of God, destroyers of the family i.e. everything this country was built on they are destroying.

The Democrat Senators are but Lemmings following these liberal special interest groups(terror) of total moral corruption.

hal0
"And al-Q never boasted of driving the Soviets out of Afghanistan" huh? That's one of Bin Ladens selling points. He talks of being there when they drove out the soviets. Even though he was more of a money man than fighter. I agree with others that this could have been fought better (Al sader should have been killed 2 yrs ago). But if you think Saddam should still be there with his 2 nitwit sons please make that case.

Democrats Afraid Surge is working
The most devastating thing to happen to the Democrats is for the Iraq surge to be successful. Thusfar they are really taking the terrorist side of everything.

The surge is working. Read it here

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110010320

And the new strategy IS...
One that's been bandied about by Mrs Clinton and others is to draw down the troop level and change their mandate to "only fighting AlQaeda".

My question for them:
How will that actually operationalize? Is AlQ carrying ID cards? Or can our guys just assume that anyone with a bomb strapped to them is a bad guy? If that's the case, how is it different from now (except having less backup to help you).

OR, is this just a way of saying " Things would have to stay the same as they are now, but we'd CALL it something different, and then it wouldn't be a war."

The real strategy is: keep George Bush from succeeding. Never mind how.

Paul
"Democratic Party Now Terrorist Party
If I were a Terrorist I would certainly join the Democrat Party."

Not true at all. This president and the Republicans have been the terrorists best allies to date. But now that Bush is done, stripped of his last bit of support by his own talk radio propaganda machine look out....

"The Democrat Party is now a party of AIDS disease spreadng Gays, Muslim Terror apologists, Baby killing, eugenic practicing, suicide supporting,elderly killing, military hating,free speech to porn graphics, de-listers of God, destroyers of the family i.e. everything this country was built on they are destroying."

and yet we will try and make you comfortable in what is obviously your declining years Paul. LOL

"The Democrat Senators are but Lemmings following these liberal special interest groups(terror) of total moral corruption."

Really? Yet you disarm our military and abandon them in the desert?

I'll tell ya how to win
Round up all the women. Put them in an American shopping mall with $1k each for clothes and accessories. Ship them to a vacation spot. Treat them like queens. Put in on a CNN reality show. The bad guys would just go bonkers. If my guess is right they'll come out for open confrontation which will be their undoing.

SteveL Please enlighten us
I keep hearing from the left that they have a plan to win the war on terror, yet no plan has ever been vocalized other than "redeployment" (an absurd euphemism for running away). I admit that Bush's conduct of the WOT has been inept to say the least, but I have yet to hear an alternate, workable strategy from the left. And no, "just shoot the bad guys" isn't a strategy.

Please, SteveL, enlighten us, please explain how to win the war on terror.

p.s. how to win
Imagine, all those men having to feed and diaper all the kids by themselves. Cook for themselves. And we've taken up the crusade of the poor plight of Muslim women so why not put our money where our mouth is?
I know I wrote this as a half crackpot idea but, really the men would come out fighting mad and we could just plink them off and this thing would be over.

Bob
"I admit that Bush's conduct of the WOT has been inept to say the least, but I have yet to hear an alternate, workable strategy from the left."

Yet you conntinue to let him tear our military apart?

"And no, "just shoot the bad guys" isn't a strategy."

Yes it is

The Iraqi Future
23% of the American people believe the President is doing a good job in Iraq. Which means that almost 1/2 the republicans no longer trust his strategy or execution. And this includes many conservatives.

I have no doubt that the surge will knock down some of the violence, but what it cannot do is ensure either peace, prosperity or a functional government allied with our own interests in the region.

Petraeus talks of a 10 year war. The reason we'll have such a war, is that the Shia clerics and tribal leaders used the vote to sieze control and then imposed a form of government that virtually guaranteed that a civil war would continue for many years. Their interest in power caused them to ignore our recommendations for the political structure necessary to ensure equal protection and to build a modern economy. Instead, the Shia's have imposed a dysfunctional system that includes an executive that has virtually no power, established the Koran as the basis of civil law, and handed the power to interpret the Koran back to unelected clerics whose decisions will supercede the courts, the executive, the parliaments, and the written constitution. Further, the interpretation will be imposed by Shia's. This marginalizes the Sunni's, Christians, any other religious group, and women - guaranteeing a continuation of one level or another of a civil war. In addition, it imposes economic rules, such as the fact that one cannot charge interest (a middle aged prejudice) that will hamstring the society, and created a traditional African/Middle Eastern spoils system in which the government's departments and it's revenues are divided up among the various Shia religious parties and tribes.

The Sunni's believe in centralized secular government, and have repeatedly stated this fact. The Shia's, however, have given much of the power to unelected clerics, whose knowledge of government and economics is non-existent.

American's, in turn, are increasingly confronted with the fact that we will be forced to stay in Iraq to provide security for perhaps a generation or longer. This security means that we will be enforcing the rule of the Shia's and their clerics at the expense of all other groups.

There is currently, as such, no structural basis to ensure a rapid movement to a peaceful society, let alone to one that can build a modern and prosperous state.

Even as we fight to knock down Al Queida and provide some level of security to the existing government, we are confronted with the fact that this country will be a thorn in our side for several generations.

Those, as such, that believe the surge is an end in itself will find that it is only the beginning of a very long road. And that the road that we are on was built not by America, which has the experience to understand what a modern society must have, but by a group that had no idea of how to build a modern society, but that instead, rejected this concept and decided to build a society based upon concepts and systems based in the middle ages.







Steve L, You say ....
... "There are other ways to win the War on Terror."

Such as?

This is a forum of ideas, not punch lines.

the Key answer to the Key question
Mr. Blankley ask:

"None of these senators have even addressed the question of whether the United States is safer if we leave Iraq than if we stay. Isn't that the key question?"

What Mr. Blankely and people that think like him continue to ignore is the will of the vast majority of american people. it is more than clear that they think the answer to his question in clearly NO. The senators who are in opposition are merely reflecting the will of their constituents.

Steve L. stated above:

"No matter what noises Bush makes about continuing the war, the American public doesn't want to and it's only a matter of time before they get to vote for a new President to succeed Bush and give them what they want."

which is to get out of Iraq and let the Iraq government, police force and military be responsible for the security of THEIR country.

Why is it so hard for people like Blankely to understand this?

I wish
The Republicans would start running commercials that simply ask the question "If you were a terrorist would you be voting Republican or Democratic?"

The Democrats love their party more than their country. They do not want to win this war. They forget that Saddam is dead, their have been elections in Iraq and Afghanistan. They want to bring the troops home, let the Middle East fall into anarchy and blame Bush.

Zell Miller was right!

Halo
You're right. Iraq never attacked us. We attacked them first. Funny, same goes for the Germans in WW2. We were attacked first, but instead decided to attack a party which didn't attack us.

How about other instances of the U.S. fighting countries which didn't strike it first? Such as:

Iraq (Gulf I)
Yugoslavia (Kosovo War)
Korea (Korean War)
Confederate States of America (Civil War)
Spain (Spanish-American War)

Why don't we hear more protest about these evil wars then? If you're really a non-interventionist, please condemn these as well.

America's Honor vs. Betrayal by Reid
America's honor vs. betrayal by Reid, Pelosi, Hillary, et al:

Does your word mean anything. When you give your word, is your word your bond. Do politicians' words mean anything?

Now, that we are committed in Iraq, a proposed withdrawal and a timetable for it, without achieving our goal of establishing a permanent, peaceful democracy in Iraq, free from tyrants, sounds like surrender and a letting down of those who made the ultimate sacrifice.

If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, it's waving the white flag of surrender.

Do you remember America's betrayal of the people of South Vietnam, abandoning and surrendering them to subjugation by the Viet Cong and the NVA, and how they were in terror and tried to escape from impending bondage. It was monumental human tragedy and a nightmare.

It's a message not lost on the people of Iraq as well as other allies of ours, sticking their necks out on our behalf. Are they thinking when will America betray us, too. How can they not?

If America betrays the people of Iraq, how can the word of America be trusted, have honor, value, and meaning in any part of the world, ever.


To Hal Donahue
I don't "conntinue to let him tear our military apart" at all. I didn't vote for Bush (or Long Face either) and I have nothing to say about how thw war is conducted.

I repeat: "And no, "just shoot the bad guys" isn't a strategy." Al Qaeda is not the problem, just a weapon. Islam is the problem and until the West comes to that realization we are in deep $&!%.





Bob
Islam is no more a problem than the other religions with the possible exception of Buddhaism

Other ways to win
SteveL writes, "We faced mystical fanatics then too: the suicidal Japanese kamikaze pilots. But we didn't win the war by becoming as fanatical as they. We played to our strengths: flexibility, adaptability, technology and productive capacity. We used our strengths to shorten the war as much as possible, because it was understood even THEN that Americans would start to grumble "why haven't we won yet?"

If Bush's strategy depends on us winning a long, long contest of willpower with fanatics, then it's inherently flawed and won't work anyway.

There are other ways to win the War on Terror."

In short, as soon as we got the Bomb, we dropped it on Hiroshima & Nagasaki. So are you saying that on 9/12/2001, Mecca, Baghdad, Tehran, etc. should have been radioactive pools of glass?

I agree wih Tony
We are all suffering from some "war fatigue" to one extent or the other; it is almost inevitable to feel like we want this thing wrapped up.

What we have to do is take a long look at the bigger picture and decide if we really want to bug out of Iraq and let the al-Quaeda/Iran nexus be the center of power in that entire region. Because that is what is almost sure to follow in the region if we decide to declare victory and come slinking home.

Bob
"And no, "just shoot the bad guys" isn't a strategy."

Funny, it's been the primary strategy of every war since the beginning of mankind. I suggest you spend some time at the Strategic Studies Institue at the Army War College before attempting to spin your way out of this ignorant position.

Flagwaver
"if we really want to bug out of Iraq and let the al-Quaeda/Iran nexus be the center of power in that entire region. Because that is what is almost sure to follow in the region if we decide "

Was not the Bush Regime warned of exactly this happening?

Hal Donahue, Religious History expert
"Islam is no more a problem than the other religions with the possible exception of Buddhaism"

Thus does HD reveal his utter ignorance of the entire history of Islam. To be fair, though, in the mass-murder category, the Religion of Peace (TM) is minor-league compared to the atheist-socialist cult.

nice job
of breaking Iraq and destabilizing the Middle east Mr Bush.

HalO, Steve L.
You are really misinformed or just plain stupid. You think the Jihadists won't follow us home, are you nuts? Maybe you haven't been reading the news lately, these guys are all over the place, like Fort Dix, & JFK Airport to name just two places here. Also if you think they will sell us oil, you are really out there. They know quite well that oil is the lifeblood of western society, and they will turn off the spigot as soon as they can to try to bring down western civilization. They do not care a whit for the fate of the Iraqi people, money is not their goal.

You are correct however that the North Vietnamese didn't recruit millions. They simply slaughtered them!

And you obviously don't understand George Washington, who did advise us to stay out of international entanglements, but he was never a quitter once the battle began. In fact, he suffered quite a few defeats and the cause certainly looked hopeless at times. Cut and run however, was never part of his thinking.

Of course, you liberals still do not accept any blame in the VN debacle resulting from your cut and run policy at the time. That was even a more shameful action because we were actually out of VN, but your guys decided to cut off all aid anyway. Is that what you are planning now? Cut and run, and as the Iraqis struggle to build a nation and create a government, we will cut off aid to them and leave 'em hanging?

Oh I forgot, we are going to follow Hillary's plan and leave troops in isolated bases to go fight AQ. I guess we just wait for a group of fighters to show up someplace and then ask them to show their AQ I.D. cards. If they don't have one, we let them go on their merry way to slaughter some innocent people. You really haven't a clue, do you?

Also, to Steve L., I agree with the others here, exactly what is your plan, how would it be implemented and made to work. And in case your strategy fails (that won't happen of course), what would you then do?

For anyone interested, I have two articles on on Iraq on my website, JOEOLIVAFORPRESIDENT.ORG. Check it out. Thanks, Joe

DocNoleCat
Perhaps you should take a course and maybe live among them a bit?

how I would fight the War on Terror
"Please, SteveL, enlighten us, please explain how to win the war on terror."

I'll be happy to answer that. Here's my plan:

1. For starters, name the enemy. The enemy is political Islam--the idea that governments should be run according to the ancient, barbaric law of Sharia. And the caliphate the Muslims dream of restoring along those lines. I'm sick and tired of gassy abstractions like "axis of evil" and "war on terror." We're should put our enemies on the moral defensive. The President should give a speech in which he compares excerpts from the U.S. Constitution and the Islamic law of sharia, and demonstrates that the two are fundamentally incompatible. And the next time HAMAS uses Mickey Mouse to teach kids suicide-bombing, let's put that video right on the White House website on a page entitled "Why We Fight." Every time a woman is stoned for adultery in a Muslim country, every honor killing, it goes on the White House website. When the President gives a speech to the nation, he can play some of those videos for the public's edification.

2. Impose a flat ban on importing any more oil from any OPEC nation anywhere (this includes Venezuela). We will tighten our belts, car pool, use mass transit, provide emergency aid to the poor and elderly, institute crash programs on alternative energy, do whatever it takes. But we will no longer fund Saudi Arabia with petrodollars that they can recycle into fomenting Islamic radicalism around the world. We will show the rest of the West it can be done and encourage them to follow suit.

3. Announce publicly that we are no longer going to come to the defense of Saudi Arabia if they are attacked. The only exception being if they are attacked with nuclear weapons. Otherwise, they're on their own.

4. Direct the FBI to find out once and for all the extent of Saudi lobbying and subversion in America. Politicians and businesses who have taken campaign money from Saudi fronts are going to be identified and held up to public ridicule.

5. Impose a total naval blockade on Iran. NOTHING gets in or out. They don't ship one drop of oil through a supertanker and they don't import one thing from the seas. Now Iran will certainly retaliate; as our troops go after al-Qaeda in Iraq they are vulnerable to being attacked from the rear by Iran. The loyalty of many Iraqi Shiites will also be questionable. That's another reason to disengage from Iraq. Once Iran retaliates, our strategic position in Iraq could become untenable.

6. Seal America's borders tight.

7. Tell Musharraf that he has exactly one year to close down the Taliban/al-Qaeda bases in Waziristan, after which the U.S. will consider itself free to conduct whatever cross-border attacks are necessary to put those bases out of business.

I think if we did all that, we would be in MUCH better shape.

And by the way, you have probably realized by now, that my views don't fit neatly into either Left-Wing or Right-Wing categories. Pragmatist that I am, I'm pretty eclectic.

Paul
EXCELLENT!

STAMPEDES
If The Lead Animal in a Herd is Stupid and/or Gutless, it is EXPONENTIALLY easier to Stampede that herd.

I give you Harry Reid!

SteveL
Please provide proof of your statement that as far as "continuing the war, the American public doesn't want to" There are no polls to my knowledge that say we don't want to fight. Every poll that I read says the people want to fight to win or not fight at all. I think you are correct about the need to treat these guys like we treated the Japanese kamikazes. Some tactical nukes well placed within Iran and/or Syria might give them pause. The reason they fight on with more and more ferocity is they know if they do our lilly-livered Senate moves closer to forcing us to withdraw is.

I would disagree with your statement about the Soviets being driven from Afghanistan. No matter the name they went under Osama bin Laden was there and he saw who the strong horse was. I am afraid he is seeing the same thing again.

Georgetwin
"If The Lead Animal in a Herd is Stupid and/or Gutless, it is EXPONENTIALLY easier to Stampede that herd."

It certainly describes the Bush Regime. Reid could do no worse

My Two Cents
First Cent: What the hell is a "neo-con?" An earlier poster used that term in a derogatory way to apparently describe conservatives. I suppose it's meant to insult anybody who doesn't agree with the lib-tards point of view. The word itself means "new conservative," but I have mostly voted for conservatives for over 30 years. How does that make them, or even me for that matter, a neo-con?

Second Cent: Libs talk about Bush's war like they have no stake in it, even though it involves all of us. Instead of identifying their strategy for American Military Forces to win, they tell us it's the will of the people to get out of Viet Nam...oops, I mean Iraq (they used that same argument then too). I suppose the "neo-libs" (remember you saw that term here first) forgot Social Studies 101, this is a representative republic and not a popular vote democracy. Poll-driven popularity contests are exactly how we got into this "get-out-now" debate in the first place. Every "neo-lib" politician in Washington, and yes, Repubs are doing it too, checks polling data on an hourly basis before deciding to go number 1 or number 2. Here's a strategy for you lib-tards to chew on--unleash the military and let the war dogs kick the crap out of anyone who sticks their head out of a cave or a hovel. I give it 6 months and al-Quaida will be running like a metro-sexual to a manbag sale.

That's my two cents!

What a load of . . .
Mr. Blankley predicates his entire argument on Iraq being vital to American interests, yet he doesn't cite any.

Funny how the US lived without Iraq before the war and how now it is VITAL to our interests.

Al Qaeda. Mr. Blankley talks about us defeating al Qaeda in Iraq. Gee, I thought that al Qaeda was in Pakistan. So what would have a bigger affect on al Qaeda, continued fighting of them in Iraq, or taking them out significantly in Pakistan?

Finally, us leaving Iraq totally. First of all as has been said numerous times, you can't for Iraq to become a Democratic country. They are currently proving that. They have no inclination to move forward. WE CAN'T FORCE THEM. Secondly, Saudia Arabia and other countries in the area are culturally, and financially more able to fight in that area and have a bigger stake in the area than we do. Work with our allies to solve the problem.

So this great neo-con dream has turned into a disaster and now we're supposed to continue to go along with the disaster because these same fools are telling us that the situation will be worse. Sorry Tony you've already lost any little credibility you might have had at one time.

Hal Donahue
I have been off these threads for a while, but upon my return, I'm happy to see that you have maintained the balance of the universe... you are still a giant jackass.

Are you sure your first name isn't "Phil"?

Steve's Plan
My comments on SteveL's plan:

1. Agree with naming the enemy, but my video would be of an atomic bomb test.

2. Reenactment of the Great Depression. No Thanks.

3. Refer to number 2

4. Agree

5. Agree with the blockade

6. Agree

7. Agree

What Hillary Will Do in 2009
We will still have 85-90 thousand soldiers in Iraq at the very least. Iran, will continue to use Iraq as a proxie to fight the US, and as long as there are foregin born lunatics willing to die for The Cause, some type of low intensity warfare will exist no matter what politcal solutions are found. Iran cannot tolerate 2 free nations on its borders.

Hillary, I suspect will follow what her advisors will perscribe. Even though her instincts are to cut and run, geopolitical realities will hold sway. The price of oil, further violence in Iraq possibly spreading to Kuwait and Saudi will force her to put on hold a complete withdrawl. The DOD will patiently explain that it can continue to conduct counter insurgency ops, or withdraw from the region, but it cannot do both. Seeing a geopolitcal disaster in the making, Hillary opts for "Stay The Course."

The net-roots will go ballistic, but most of Dems, especially in the Senate will suddenly wake up and BANGO!, will declare that we face serious geopolitical challanges which we must solve. RHINOS, who just a year earlier ran for politcal cover vis-a-vis Iraq will suddenly say in thier most urbane voices that the US is the only nation that can fight the WOT on a global scale, and will rush to the mics giving Hillary thier full support. Lindsay Gramm and Chuck Hegel will lead the way in a new spirit of bi-partisanship. Joe Liberman will be the new toast of the town, and Chucky and Harry will greet thier prodigal son with a new fondness.

By 2010, we will still have 80,000 soldiers in Iraq, and Hillary will have found a new bellicosity -this time it will be directed at Iran and not the RNC. With the Moderate Dems and almost all of the GOP behind her, Hillary openly talks of an approaching conflict with Iran. Sen(s) Schummer, Kerry, and Durbin lead the way as they catalogue the human rights abuses Iran has committed, and the threat that Iran's nukes are to the world.

Hillary will have been mugged by reality.

HalO
Man your naivete is astounding. I guess the "O" stands for "Obtuse"? Let’s go over this point by point:

“Iraq never threatened us”
DUH. ARE YOU NOW SAYING THAT SADDAM HAD NO INTENTION OF DEVELOPING NUKES DESPITE THE STATEMENTS TO THAT EFFECT DELIVERED BY NUMEROUS LIBDROOL LEADERS BEFORE GWB EVEN TOOK OFFICE?

“and if we quit meddling with the ME the jihadis wouldn't "follow us back home"; they'd fight among themselves and sell us oil.”
WOW. HOW IGNORANT IS THAT? FIRST OF ALL WE DON’T NEED MANY TO FOLLOW US HOME ANYMORE. ONCE THEY HAVE NUKES IT’LL ONLY TAKE A FEW TO REALLY HURT US. IF YOU THINK THEY WON’T – I DON’T KNOW WHAT PLANET YOU ARE LIVING ON.YOUR POSITION IS SO 1980 – WAKE UP THINGS HAVE CHANGED. AND WHY WOULD THEY NEED TO FIGHT TO SELL US OIL SINCE WE HAVE TO HAVE IT AND WITH THE DIMS ASSISTING THEM WE SHOW NO INCLINATION TO GET ANY ON OUR OWN.

“And al-Q never boasted of driving the Soviets out of Afghanistan. That was done by an uneasy combine of northern warlords, drug barons and the Taliban”
WHATEVER THEY CALLED THEMSELVES THEN BIN LADEN WAS THERE AND HE SAW THE BIG DOG RUN. I SUPPOSE YOU’D LIKE HIM TO SEE THAT AGAIN? DO YOU REALLY THINK THERE’D BE NO REPURCUSSIONS?

”Don't you get it, Tony? Americans don't buy your bogeyman talk any longer. We think Mexican and Haitian illegals are a far worse danger to our peace of mind than a handful of Keystone Kop suicide bombers.”
WHY IS IT THAT YOU LIBDOLTS CANNOT THINK ON TWO PLANES AT THE SAME TIME AND ALWAYS OVERSIMPLIFY EVERYTHING? THE PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS PART OF THE SAME PROBLEM – THE FACT THAT WE DON’T KNOW WHOSE COMING IN AND THAT THEY COULD BE TERRORISTS CARRYING WMD’S. AS FOR THE “KEYSTONE KOP” BOMBERS – SEE MY POINT ABOVE REGARDING NUKES.

“All this "hide your faces in shame" waffle suggests that Blankley is living in Neocon BubbleWorld. It's the last-ditch Fighting Keyboarders who tried to make America go on fighting a lost war that will be shamed”
MAN TALK ABOUT CLUELESS. LIKE A TYPICAL LIB YOU SEE NO PROBLEM WITH CUTTING AND RUNNING AND ACTING AS IF WE LOST TO A RAG-TAG BUNCH OF “KEYSTONE KOP SUICIDE BOMBERS”. YOU CAN’T SEE THE SHAME IN THAT EH? TO YOU THE WAR IS THE SHAME.IF WE RAN EVERY RAGTAG GROUP IN THE WORLD WITH A GRIEVANCE WOULD FEEL FREE TO ATTACK US - DO YOU GET THAT? I PERSONALLY LIKE TAKING IT TO THE TERRORISTS WHERE THEY ARE AND IF YOU WANT TO TELL ME THEY’RE NOT IN IRAQ AFTER ALL OF THE WHINING THAT WE ARE CREATING TERRORISTS IN IRAQ – I JUST DON’T KNOW WHAT TO SAY ABOUT YOUR HYPOCRISY. THE PROBLEM ISN’T THAT WE ARE LOSING – IT’S THAT WE ARE NOT WINNING – MUCH LIKE VIETNAM. THERE IS NO WAY ON EARTH THAT THE “INSURGENTS” CAN BEAT US MILITARILY, IT’S JUST THAT WE WON’T USE THE POWER OF THE UNITED STATES MILITARY TO KICK SOME SERIOUS @ZZ. THE ONLY WAY TO WIN A WAR IS TO REMOVE THE ENEMY’S WILL TO FIGHT AND WITH ALL OF THE WHINING AND POSTURING IN DC COMBINED WITH THE RESTRICTIVE ROE’S WE HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO DO THAT.

“Most Muslims are quite able to distinguish between dislike of US government policies and a mild appreciation of some (not all) aspects of the way ordinary Americans live.”
HA. ONCE AGAIN THE LIBDOLT WANTS TO BLAME THE TERRORIST HATRED OF AMERICA OF OUR POLICIES. WAKE UP – IT IS OUR WAY OF LIFE THEY HATE. IT IS OUR DECADENT SOCIETY THEY HATE. IT IS OUR AFFLUENCE THEY HATE. IT IS OUR FAILURE TO BE MUSLIMS THAT THEY HATE. IT IS THEIR BELIEF THAT THEY CANNOT REST UNTIL WE ARE EITHER KILLED OR CONVERTED. WHY CAN’T YOU LIBDOLTS HEAR WHAT THEY ARE SAYING? I DON'T SEE ANY "MODERATE" MUSLIMS STANDING UP AND DECRYING THEIR ACTIONS - DO YOU?

WE KEEP HAVING THIS SAME DISCUSSION AND YOU GUYS WOULD PREFER TO FORGET ABOUT HISTORY AND IGNORE WHAT THE ISLAMOFACISTS ARE TELLING YOU AND BLAME IT ALL ON GWB. YOU WILL NEVER GET IT AND WHEN THEY COME HERE AND START KILING AMERICANS YOU’LL BLAME BUSH FOR THAT TOO. YOU GUYS ARE PATHETIC!!!!!!!



SteveL
Sorry I attributed the remark about Afghanistan to you rather than HalO.

Kevin
If you read deep enough into the comments of those using Neo-con as an epithet you will find a nice strain of anti-Semitism. It's used by Buchanan-type conservatives and Solidarity-with-the-Palestinian-type progressive libs.

DogJudge
You need to at least read the New York Times. Al Qaida has been fighting the US in Iraq since 2003. The Anbar Province was full of them until the Shieks and the US forced them out in May. Baccuba, in which fighting still rages was a haven for Al Qaida fighters.

In case you do not know, the following nations have Al Qaida soldiers conducting terror ops:

The Philipines
Thailand
Somalia
Sudan
Jordan
Kurdistan
Chechnya
India
Pakistan
Afghanistan
Great Britain
France
Morroco
Germany
Kosovo

Iraq is not a Free Society
Iraq will not be a free society, regardless of our actions, unless the Shia's throw out the Shia islamic courts and the Koran as the basis of law. And they're not going to do that.

This is the issue that drives a long term civil war. The Koran does not enable people to have equal protection nor equal freedom's. Further, Sunni's will never peacefully agree to live under the rules of Shia clerics. We can knock down Al Queida, but the only road to peace, which is entirely unrelated to prosperity, will be to crush all resistence to the central government. And since the Sunni's will form the basis for that resistence, we will be choosing to reinforce a Shia Theocracy at the expense of the Sunni's.

Bush's dream of a secular democratic society died when the Shia Clerics and tribal leaders hijacked the vote by directing the people to vote strictly along sectarian lines.

The Shia Theocracy, in turn, has far more in common with the Theocracy in Iran than it will ever have with us.

The militia's, the clerics, and many of those you see in their government spent years in Iran under it's protection waiting for Saddam to fall.

This idea of a free society, let alone a properous one, is an illusion. It will be "free" to Shia's - as long as they live according to the rulings of the Shia clerics, but it will not be free to Sunni's, Christians, other religions, nor women.




JPK
I agree with your list of where Islamic fighters are. If you say that they are al Qaeda, great.

That only demonstrates how fighting these folks in Iraq is more counter productive. All we're doing there is fighting a small amount of fighters. We are still caught primarily in a civil war. If we get out, it will go it's own course. Something that would have happened some time ago had Saddam been killed before.

Anti-terrorism and al Qaeda are worldwide problems and need to be addressed on that level. If you're going to go after them, you go after the head, not some of the foot soldiers. It's much more effective.

JPK
Re: "What Hillary Will Do in 2009"

I think you've really done a great job predicting the future here, vis-a-vis, the geo-political realities she will face.

Where we might disagree is her reaction. Hillary has shown a most stubborn refusal to listen to her advisors in the past. I'm not so sure "reality" is going to wake her up after she has achieved her loftiest ambition of returning to the White House... this time as President.


dogjudge opines:
"Anti-terrorism and al Qaeda are worldwide problems and need to be addressed on that level. If you're going to go after them, you go after the head, not some of the foot soldiers. It's much more effective..."

You assume our DoD and intelligence communities are incapable of walking and chewing gum at the same time. The media and most of the political class is focused (obsessed) with Iraq, leaving little space or airtime for reports on other fronts. That doesn't mean there aren't any.

JPK
Are you talking about Al Q in Iraq or Osama's Al Q?

Eben
Nice that you can define what freedom is for everybody else in the entire world.

My question to Hillary
So if you want to draw down the troops and just fight Al Qaida...What are you going to do when the entire country is a wholly owned subsiderary of Al Qaida?

Why?
Bring them home!!!!! Know one can tell the American people WHY we are there. Hussein was Not a threat to the U. S. There was no WMD and if even there was it wasn't aimed at us. We have no stratigic interest there. the argument that they will follow us here is the most ludicrous arguement I have ever heard. If you were them would you rather blow up a building and kill hundreds of Americans or take pot shots at a few soldiers in Iraq? If and when they can get us here they will irregardless of what happens there!
After 9-11 we we told that we were going to get those responsible. Well we were all down for getting them. Afghanistan made sense but then all of a sudden we had it in for Saddam. And Why? Bin Laden was still on the loose and still is today! What happened to our Supreme Leaders pledge to get those responsible and bring them to justice? What he meant was we would get him unless he fled somewhere where our interests dictated we do otherwise.
Strategically our interests were in keeping a weakened Saddamm in power as a hedge against the Islamasists that were our real enemies. But NO! we had to let the cat out of the bag and are now reaping the inevitable results of a failed policy sculped by a group of pie in the sky rubes! Our soldiers are dying for no reason and if we care for them we would bring them home and pray that we will think three ways before we vote in another idiot like Bush again!

Hal Donahue
Hal’s Three Answers
Liberals are Rubber, Bush is Glue, Anything Bush says/does bounces off Liberals and sticks to Bush.
It is Bush’s fault.
Ollie North is a Crook.

Lolo
Nice to know that you think that unelected Shia Clerical Courts that impose their interpretation of the Koran on the 40% of the population that don't agree with it, to include Sunni's, Christains, and Secularists, as well as on women in general, promotes Freedom. This is a dictatorship of the majority over the minority, who have no rights of appeal and no equal protection. I would also suggest that conservative clerics are no friend of yours or of the US, and that the reason that Petraeus talks of a 10 year war has nothing to do with Al Queida, but because of this issue.

Perhaps if you dwell on this, you'll understand why you can fight Al Queida in Iraq, but are you also going to support enforcing the dictatorship of the majority on the minority? Even if it means crushing the minority at the point of a gun? And how about the Christians? 1/2 have fled, the other 1/2 are likely to go. NO - that's not freedom. That's theocracy.



Hal Donahue, Religious History expert 2
Hal types, "Perhaps you should take a course and maybe live among them a bit?"

You mean like Daniel Pearl?

Or perhaps you could back up your amazingly ignorant statement with facts. Such as what "religion" conquered its territory with blood and fire from Algeria to India. What "religion" STARTED the "Crusades" with the sack of Jerusalem. What "religion" was barely stopped at Tours from immersing the whole world in a permanent Dark Ages. What "religion" murdered 3500 US civilians in a single day.



DocNoleCat
"Hal types, "Perhaps you should take a course and maybe live among them a bit?"

You mean like Daniel Pearl?"

Actually yes but hopefully you might not meet his fate. Why this hatred of Islam?

Attempt to delay deployment
of troops as easily (Webbs proposal) was just successfully blocked by the Senate. In spite of democrats desire to lose, maybe the surge will be given a chance. Democrats own defeat and that will be remembered for years to come. Great article Mr. Blankley. We have a congress only interested in reelection and they should be ashamed. Perhaps this recent move will show there is more backbone then thought.

loco
Maybe we would all have a little more backbone if someone could tell us Why we are there. The pres hasn't made a case for it and until he does we need real backbone and tell the pres to bring them home now!

Disgraceful
What we are NOT fighting for is more power for Dingy Harry, and Queen Nancy. I can't believe all these dimwits can think about is getting mroe and more power. Tehy are not even smart enough to realize that if we lose the war on terrorism, all their power is going to mean is how fast the terrorists can behead them. We are fighting for our very existance, it shouldn't take a genius to realize that.

loco
"Attempt to delay deployment
of troops as easily (Webbs proposal) was just successfully blocked by the Senate."

Actually that was a bill to guarantee the troops were adequately rested and trained but why should you guys care. Go shop.

I suspect that vote may well give the Senate a veto proof majority in 08 elections

Simple Question
Given the state of Iraq before the war and the relationships that the US had before the war, what are the VITAL INTERESTS that we have there that we need to protect?

Oil - The amount that we were getting hasn't changed significantly.
Terrorists - Different name maybe, but our presence isn't reducing the number.
Peace in the Middle East - Well it appears that we screwed that up royally.
Democracy in the Middle East (not that it should have been a goal of ours) - doesn't appear that the Iraqis are really interested by their lack of participation in the process.
Security of the US - Doesn't appear that it's made any difference. Can't prove anything one way or another.

So what are our vital interests?

Bring the troops home!
So many here seem to have thrown in the towel by speculating what President Hillary Clinton may or may not do, in other words its a given that she will become President in 08
Another thing, should the American people have thier way, and the all the troops are pulled out of Iraq what will we have them do one they're back in US of A? Can't have em go to Afghanistan can we, that would be putting them in harms way again wouldn't it? Here are some things that they could possibly used for to keep this country safe and secure:

Probably the best would be to put em to work on the border, building fences, manning traffic control points, digging latrines for the illegals and civilians to use, picking up trash, ect. While there, they should be instructed that if any drug runner,coyote and or illegal alien looks cross-eyed at em, they should immediately withdraw by all means available so as not to create any situation which could jeopardize good Mexican/american relations.

Another would be to strategically position these troops around the country in case they're needed to help all those State Governors whining and crying snot like Schwartzenegger and Sibelious, with Weather caused disasters, fighting forest fires, riot control, and oh yes, have em available to pick up corpses and the likes as did Jimmy Carter during the Jonestown mass suicide disaster. Cheaper to have the military do it than having civilians.

Finally with enough of them, they could be used to create a complete line of defense around Washington D.C. to protect the spineless turncoats we call our elected officials.

Yeah, I know what I have written may be silly, but civilians still control the military, and if you think I'm kidding bring em home under the circumstances so many in this Country are advocating, and you'll see. Been there, seen it, experienced it, done that!

A Democrat who supports the war

I am not the kind of Democrat who thinks it's a good idea to send our boys to war and then, when it gets hard, make them retreat to a defeat. The fighting men know what they are doing is important...and I agree with them. Why are our politicians so spineless?

Congress' approval ratings are already in the toilet. After this Amnesty fiasco, we don't have alot of confidence in their wisdom in anymore.


How low do they want their poll numbers to go? They will find out if there is another attack on our soil after they pull our troops from Iraq!

We either stay on the OFFENSE or we become a target of terrorism...AGAIN.

We don't need to pull our troops from Iraq. We just need to fight smarter and more unmercifully against this barbaric enemy.


Hal Donahue
Even the dems have said that Webbs proposal and ones like it will be presented regularily to slow down the conduct of the war and to emonstrate to the left that they are trying to do something to end the war, get real!!!!

Reading Impaired?
val34 - Did you read the article? At all?
I think Tony states our situation succinctly.
We MUST show our enemies that we will not back down. Otherwise, we allow them to get stronger and braver.
To answer your WHY question:
We are there killing terrorists who use cruelty and brutality to control populations. They are anxious to add our country to their domminion as well.
WAKE UP! Read about what is going on in Somalia, Pakistan, Philippines, Afghanistan, Thailand, Egypt, Britain, France, ...
Muslim extremists, led by fanatical clerics, are trying to place the globe under Islamic rule, as specified in the Koran. And we are the ONLY country capable of resisting. If we pull out the troops, add another country to Islamic rule. And val, just so it's understood: They have no use for non-Islamic nations, like ours. Get it now?

Val
The original vision was to get rid of Saddam and then establish a secular democracy in Irag as an example to the region. The second part got lost when we let Sistani & company ramrod early elections which they used to get power for themselves and the Shia's by electing religious parties, implenting the koran as the basis for civil law, and getting themselves appointed as the sole interpreters with the power to over-ride the judiciary, parliament, and the executive. At that point the violence ratcheted up another notch, as the Sunni's weren't too excited about living under a Shia theocracy ruled by Shia clerics in a system in which they had no oil and few rights. That ended the idea that Iraq would be a secular democratic model for the middle east, and now we seem to be left with the much worse situation of having actually established a Shia theocracy in Iraq - which is the last model I imagine we every imagined we would be left with. Indeed, given that the Shia cleric's in S. Lebanon and Iran are our enemies, we may be doing little more than creating another such state in Iraq.

It should be no surprise that no one wants to talk about this very much. How could you ever explain it? How can we say that the conservative clerics throughout the middle east in our war on terror are our enemies, but give a pass to the same clerics in Iraq?

I don't know if we're creating a future enemy - or a future friend - and I'll bet no one else is too confident in that either.

There was a short time when we claimed that Khomeini in Iran wasn't really such a bad guy, and you know what happened there. Now, we're saying this about Sistani.

You know the old fool me once and fool me twice routine.


None of you
have any idea if the war is going well, if Bush handled it ineptly or what the relative risks to leaving Iraq versus staying would be.

Paul
You are so right (07:36 post)!

No wonder they're the party of "moral equivalancies."

How could it be otherwise? They, of necessity, cling to moral relativism to rationalize their moral degeneration.

By and large, Democrats have metamorphosed into "the pagan party."

THer democrat Joyce is an exception.

And we'll remind them
"But the worm will surely turn. And senators who today proudly call for retreat will then be hiding their faces in shame. And deservedly so. And the public will remember. "

Best way to remind them is to vote them out in 2008. Most of them are in trouble because of their support, or failure to fight, the amnesty bill, not because of any public clamor to surrender in Iraq. The public wants to WIN in Iraq.

SteveL your right!
And it's called a nuclear explosion over Iran and Syria. The rest will fall in line!

Don C

loco
"Hal Donahue Even the dems have said that Webbs proposal and ones like it will be presented regularily to slow down the conduct of the war and to emonstrate to the left that they are trying to do something to end the war, get real!!!!"

Yes to stop Bush from disarming the country. Bush can do what he should have done - say this is a national emergency and mobilise rather than tell folks toi go shopping. That is the real option that the chickenhawks run in fear of. It is all John Wayne and no real heroes

Pasadena Phil
"Best way to remind them is to vote them out in 2008. Most of them are in trouble because of their support, or failure to fight, the amnesty bill, not because of any public clamor to surrender in Iraq. The public wants to WIN in Iraq."

Not at any price and they even more want a win against terrorism. My wager veto proof D senate coming up

THAT LAST PARAGRAPH TELLS ALL
"But the worm will surely turn. And senators who today proudly call for retreat will then be hiding their faces in shame. And deservedly so. And the public will remember."

Not very bloody likely.

If you look around you and think that this once great country still has the fight within it to do what's necessary to defend itself against the jihadists, you are surely smoking something.

Yes, I'm pessimistic. The MSM has been a very effective teacher for the past half century and the American public now believes as traitor Durbin says that our military is full of Nazis, etc. and that we can't fight our way out of a wet paper bag.

How totally tragic.

Shameful Senate
When are these looters and thugs going to be
delt with.

When there are enough of us that know that "True joy comes from crushing your enemies
and hearing the lamentations of thier women.

What Congress?
People such as Harry Reid, Charles Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, John Murtha, Hillary Clinton, Pat Leahy, Joe Bieden, Barak Obama and that Stenny guy, along with many of their colleagues in the Congress have made the United States Senate and United States House of Representatives less relevent by far than Paris Hilton, Geraldo Rivera, George Hamilton, Michael Moore, Rosie O'Donnell and their ilk. This nation, because of these people, have become the laughing stock of the world.

Maybe I am getting too old, but I remember when I was proud to be an American, when The United States of America was a free and democratic nation. With government intruding on every little aspect of our lives, with the blessing of an activist Supreme Court, we are not free, and with the Congress meeting insecret sessions, with no hearings on proposed legislation, and even voting on legislation that had not yet been written, we are no longer democratic. I am surprised that the Congressmen and women have not gone to Senator Harry Byrd to borrow some of the white KKK sheets and hoods he must have in his storage bin somewhere so that they could wear them to their sessions in which they debate useless, non-binding resolutions, conduct hearings into meaningless issues, and re-name post offices, bridges and government buildings, while perpetuating their own positions.

With respect to Iraq, we should pull out instantly and allow the Iraqis to slaughter each other, just like we did when we left Saigon, and not go back in there even if the country became an ocean of Iraqi blood.

07/16/44 Normandy Surge Failed. Withdraw
July 16, 1944


Dear President Roosevelt:

As you know, I voted for War in December 1941, have always supported the troops, and have stood with you over 2 ½ years during which our treasury’s been drained, the environment savaged, about 1/3 million of our fine soldiers killed, and double that amount injured.

But now that the D-Day surge is more than a month old and the Army is still in Normandy due to long standing HEDGEROWS, while progress in the Pacific is at a snails pace and high cost, it is time to publicly admit the inability of our incompetenent military (itemized below) to win without further horrendous losses, and set timetables for withdraw.

Pearl Harbor and Hickam Field Attack:
- At Hickam airplanes were concentrated rather than dispersed.
- Washington’s warnings took hours and were too late.
- Word of sinking a nearby 1 man sub did not reach those in charge.
- Radar detected the attack, but word did not reach those in charge.
The Atlantic:
- Germans sank numerous ships within miles of our coast.
- We’ve lost over 3,000 ships and 25,000 merchant marines.
The Pacific:
- We’ve failed to sink numerous ships due to faulty torpedoes.
- It took 6 months just to take Guadalcanal.
- We lost thousands at Tarawa for virtually nothing.
- We’ve only just taken control of the Philippine Sea.
- The new B-29 is over budget, behind schedule, and a lemon’s lemon.
Africa:
- It started with the French firing on our troops.
- There were a plethora of disasters before we turned it around.
Europe:
- Our Navy shot down numerous paratrooper loaded C-47’s near Sicily.
- Churchill called Italy the “Soft Under Belly of Europe”, but we’ve suffered huge losses and slow progress.
- Air raids on the likes of Ploesti were unmitigated disasters.
- Germany has a new “jet” plane 100 mph faster than our planes.
- Intelligence claims a new “V-2” rocket will attack England soon.
The Normandy Surge:
- Our best general, Patton, was sidelined for SLAPPING A SOLDIER.
- Eisenhower made unauthorized promises to de Gaulle for his support.
- Our bombers and naval guns were of very little help at the beaches, but killed plenty of the French.
- Brave Rangers died taking out log “guns” at Pointe Du Hoc.
- Many troops were unloaded hundreds of yards from planned points.
- Many troops were unloaded too far out to sea and drowned.
- Most of our “floating” tanks sank.
- Many gliders and paratroopers came down far from planned locations.
- We lost over 6,000 dead on D-Day alone.
- It would have been far worse were it not for Rommel being away for his wife’s birthday, and Hitler being asleep.
- Our Sherman tank gets blown to bits by German Tiger I tanks, and an even better Tiger II tank is being introduced.
Boondoggles:
- Extreme money’s being wasted on a farfetched wonder bomb, even though the Germans are years behind us on their version.
- We’re still paying Howard Hughes millions to build an unneeded 300’ wide unflyable airplane to supply Europe.
Civil Rights:
- German infiltrators were tried by the Military and hung in 2 months.
- Tens of thousands of Japanese-Americans are interred in California.
- Press Reports and Letters from fronts are highly censored.

Since we were attacked by JAPAN, political support for this war has steadily declined. If we continue our arrogant, unrealistic course of “unconditional surrender” it is quite reasonable to expect 1 ½ to 2 million additional U. S. casualties. And given the long standing cultures of the Germans and Japanese, we would probably need to occupy both countries for 5 to 10 years afterwards, and they would likely revert to their former ways soon after our departure. The time to stop the carnage is now.


Most Humbly and Sincerely,


Sinator Benedict Judas Fonda Bombast

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