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Monday, July 14, 2008
Tim Walberg :: Townhall.com Columnist
Rush, Sean: We Need Your Help to Bring Down Gas Prices
by Tim Walberg
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Over the past few weekends, I’ve held multiple events in my largely rural south-central Michigan district to hear firsthand how high gas prices are affecting my constituents. One single mother offered remarks which I found particularly memorable.

She shared how she drives an hour, from Adrian to Ann Arbor, each way to the hospital where she works. Because of high gas prices, she recently requested and received permission to begin working back to back 8 hour shifts, two days per week, so she doesn’t have to make the hour long commute each day.

This remarkable woman then shared something that really struck me. She said that in a couple years, when her daughter turns 16, handing her daughter the keys to the family car will be an extremely stressful experience. But unlike when she was a teenager and her father was worried about her driving abilities and the car’s safety, this mother is worried she won’t be able to afford to pay for the gas her daughter will use to take the family car out and have a good time.

This is just one example of how real Americans outside the D.C. beltway are struggling to pay for gas. All across our great country and especially in rural areas, Americans can barely afford prices over $4 a gallon.

Meanwhile, Democrats in Congress will not allow any legislative action to increase American energy production. Instead they continue to push for tax increases on energy and offer silly proposals like having trial lawyers sue OPEC and requiring oil companies to drill on land where oil likely does not exist. The Democrat plan to tax, sue and mandate the Jed Clampett oil exploration method (no scientific research, just drill on the ground you have) will surely fail.

Republicans in the House are working daily to push for more American energy production. We have introduced, fought for and demanded votes on legislation to immediately drill in places like the Gulf of Mexico, ANWR and the Outer Continental Shelf and to increase our refinery capacity.

By passing Republican energy legislation, we could bring more American-produced gasoline to the market and lower gas prices. In my district, I’ve held numerous events related to energy policy to try and loudly proclaimed to my constituents my efforts to increase American energy production. House Republicans across the country are doing the same while the Democrat Leadership stands in the way.

So you can imagine my frustration when conservative radio host Sean Hannity recently criticized Congressional Republicans for failing to act on energy policy. Mr. Hannity, have you been paying no attention? House Republicans need your help to galvanize the American people behind our legislation to increase American energy production. The American people look at you and Rush Limbaugh, the king of talk radio, as leaders of the conservative movement, and we need you to highlight our efforts.

Last week, Rush said, “Frankly, I'm a little tired of hearing Republicans tell us that they can't win. I'm tired of Republicans telling us how many seats they expect to lose in the Senate, how many they expect to lose in the House of Representatives, that this isn't their year. BS. This year has been served up on a silver platter. People vote with their pocketbooks, and Democrats are wrong on the biggest issue since 9/11.”

Rush is exactly right. Republicans can and should win the upcoming election, but to achieve victory, we need the American people to know that House Republicans are fighting daily for more energy exploration, more refineries and more nuclear energy to move American toward energy independence, while the Democrats stand in the way of American production.

We need conservative leaders to talk about bills like Rep. Mac Thornberry’s No More Excuses Energy Act (H.R. 3089), which would increase the supply of energy produced in America. Or Rep. Joe Pitts’ bill (H.R.2279) to build new oil refineries on closed military bases. The list of Republican pro-production initiatives goes on and on.

As a first-term Congressman, I have a target on my back and will likely face a well-funded, anti-production Democrat this fall. Many of my colleagues are in the same situation. The only way Democrats win this fall is if those who talk with tens of millions of Americans each day fail to share Republican efforts to increase American energy production, and Americans cannot afford the consequences of that silence from the right.

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Tim Walberg is currently in his first term in the U.S. House of Representatives, serving Michigan’s Seventh District, which includes Branch, Eaton, Hillsdale, Jackson and Lenawee counties and parts of Calhoun and Washtenaw counties.

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I've never been the first to comment...
but I am in COMPLETE AGREEMENT with you, Congressman Walberg. The American people WANT ACTION, WANT DRILLING, AND WANT IT NOW. I've emailed both Sean and Rush, and a host of other talk shows, and really hope they get the message that we the American people NEED THEM TO GET THE WORD OUT. If only ONE syndicated radio talk show host gets behind this effort in a big way, mountains CAN be moved. Look what happened with the Scamnesty bill(s)last year. We stopped that one! We can do it again!
There's a new petition started by an average Joe, not a politician. It's FREE and you can add comments to it: http://www.drillforoilhere.com. Sign it and pass it on!

Mom in Wisconsin
P.S. Congressman, I was born in Tecumseh, MI. I think that's in your district!

ExxonMobil
Congressman, you need to review the testimony of the XOM spokeman who said that the country has all the refineries we need. This from a company whose oil production revenue has risen substantially without spending a dime. Their costs to lift a barrel of oil discovered in ,say 2002, haven't changed at all. Their profit from that barrel, however, has increased by rather a lot, don't you think.
Also, do you have the seismic data from all of the millions of acres the oil companies have under lease but won't drill?
Where was the Republican Congress from 1994 to 2006 in passing the legislation that the Democrats in the last 18 months have stopped? Part of the reason ANWR wasn't drilled earlier is that the costs of exploration made it uneconomic when oil was $10/bbl or the $20/bbl when GwB took office.
My how things change; you didn't do it and now you blame Democrats for not doing what you didn't do.

I agree with them both
Rush is right that this is a great issue for the GOP; however, Sean is also right that there are many, many in the GOP camp that act more like Dems that Republicans, inlcuding the GOP nominee for President who serves us up the disgrace of cap and trade and refuses to allow the American people to develop our own resouces in Alaska.

We must recognize the total absence of conservative leadership by these RINOs, whether it is the Snowes, Collins or Colemans voting against drilling or its Warner doing his best to go "Back to the Future" in regulating an insane 55 mph speed limit, or even our current President who has bought into the biofuels lie and has not even (until today we are told) dropped the executive order to prohibit offshore drilling that his father (another RINO)
put in place.

I won't even mention the fiasco of the California Governor who blames global warming for starting fires and wants to work as energy czar for a president Obama.

I support Sean in every way.

explain this
Over the past four years, the Bureau of Land Management has issued 28,776 permits to drill on public land - 18,954 wells were actually drilled. That means companies have stockpiled nearly 10,000 extra permits. The Feds have made 47.5 million acres of on-shore federal lands available to developers - about 13 million acres are in production. Similar trends are evident offshore where only 10.5 million of the 44 million available acres are currently producing oil or gas.

Combined, oil and gas companies hold leases to nearly 68 million acres of federal land and waters that they are not producing oil and gas. Oil and gas companies would not buy leases if they didn't believe oil and gas could be produced there, yet they are not producing oil or gas from these areas already under their control.

Current inactive leases could produce an additional 4.8 million barrels of oil and 44.7 billion cubic feet of natural gas each day.

That would nearly double total U.S. oil production, and increase natural gas production by 75%. It would also cut U.S. oil imports by more than a third, and be more than six times the estimated peak production from the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR).



Proponents of opening additional lands to oil and gas leasing assert that vast quantities of oil and gas are closed to energy development. In fact, according to the Minerals Management Service, of all the oil and gas believed to exist on the Outer Continental Shelf, 82% of the natural gas and 79% of the oil is located in areas that are currently open for leasing.


Seven simple suggestions
1) Drill in ANWR. The caribou will adapt.

2) Drill off FL, CA & anywhere else there's oil. The fish -- not to mention the tourists -- will adapt.

3) Build more refineries. The last new one is 25+ years old. That means, from a governmental level, strike down the inane "environmental" regulations and dismiss the frivolous "green" lawsuits that make building anything in the US less pleasant than extensive root canal treatment. (While we're deregulating, stop requiring different fuel mixes for every region and season.)

4) Implement the technology to make coal-to-diesel a cornerstone of our supply. The Germans developed the technology before WW II.
Diesel comprises @20% of our oil consumption. And, if coal were oil, the US would be Saudi Arabia in terms of supply. You do the math.

5) Continue to develop & implement the technology to make currently impractical sources, such as "shale oil," economical. If that means tax breaks for companies who do so, fine. Taxes should come down anyway.

6) France currently gets @75% of its electricity from nuclear plants. The US should commit in a "space race" fashion to achieving the same goal by 2020.

7) Finally, in addition to all this, continue to explore "alternative" energy sources. I honestly wouldn't mind using an "electric car" for my five mile commute to work, if I can be assured of a real car for real travel.



Welcome To TownHall, Congressman
We look forward to more of your writings and I completely agree with your sentiments expressed in your article.
You need to understand the exasperation that we conservatives feel about our elected officials. We know and understand that the democrats are basically socialists who want to control our lives from birth to grave with their good intentions.
What we don't understand is how our supposedly conservative officials turn into democrat-lite when they get to washington. We don't understand why the vast majority of our elected officials don't seem to want to secure our borders, drill for oil, or take a look at the looming social security catastrophe that our children are probably going to have to fix. We don't understand how republican's could have controlled both houses of congress for eight years and earned the reputation as the party of the "bridge to nowhere".
We wanted to see our republican leader's stand up to the democrats and tell them to sit down and shut up like they have been doing to you since they retook both houses. We want republican's to get out every day and spread the word everywhere about what you want to do to fix this country and how the democrats are strangling us. We want republican's to stand up and act like they should be the party of the majority, not the party of the ineffective minority.
You want Rush's and Cean's help. We want your help. RNC leadership needs a collective kick in the kister if they expect any of us to get back on board with them. Please tell them that we're waiting for them to lead us, if only they would go out there and do it. Please write more in TownHall letting us know what their response is.

Congressman, its up to you not Rush
Both Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh have been speaking regularly and passionately on the need to drill domestically for oil for the last two to three years.

While they do enjoy very large audiences, talk radio hosts do not legislate. I agree, the more people who are informed on this issue the greater the chances for moving congress to act but we didn't elect Rush or Sean congressman, we elected you.

However, because I too am so frustrated with the impenetrable barrier to domestic oil that the Democrats have erected, I am going to tell you how Republicans in congress can both sell this requirement and probably win seats as well.

"Its the national security stupid." We can be cut off from a significant supply of oil from either the Middle East or from Venezuela in an instant! What is do damn hard to understand about that.

If the Dems refuse to ensure our national security, economic infrastructure and the very substance that keeps it running, then I think that traitorous position can be exploited. The rest is up to you and you fellow members in congress. Lead or get the hell out of the way.

Qeustions
If 82% of the gas and 79% of the oil is in areas already open for leasing, then what we're talking about is adding the remaining 18% and 21%. Which brings up an interesting question, which is, why aren't these areas already being drilled? And, remember, the reason Americans haven't built refineries is that our US production has falled. We don't, as a result, need refineries to process what we are producing. Oil produced elesewhere is refined elsewhere, because it's more cost effective to ship a finished product than a bulk product.

As a final question. Of what good is it to open up more drilling if the oil industry isn't currently willing to drill in the 80% of the lands holding oil and gas that are already available? Someone is going to be very disappointed. They can force other areas to be opened up. But that doesn't mean anyone is going to drill there, if there not already willing to drill where they very clearly can. You must admit, its a very curious situation.

Drilling offshore and in Anwar

may not have much of an affect on oil prices. It will however, make the U.S.A. more energy independent. If we can increase national production by 7 million barrels a day, we would be independent of needing oil from non-allied nations.

We ought to drill in ANWR


It's a good idea; drill in ANWR; and on the coastlines.

However; any appeal to Rush Limbaugh and/or Hannity is a departure from the real political process. I've noted that these characters on talk radio actually have a bad effect on this country's political trajectory. THEY POLARIZE everything to a worse condition than what we already have.

WHY?

It's so easy to see; the radio talk show is mostly conservative-to-far right stroking and vitriol. There is no meeting of any minds; only confrontation.

It's well worth having this; however for the solutions to our fuel difficulties here in this country;

We must have the other side onboard. What about the other side? Has it enough clout today, to tell Rush, Sean, Lee Rogers, Laura Ingraham, et al:

"SHOVE IT." ---? Or do those opponents just CAVE, because we have the support of Rush Limbaugh and (ugh) Hannity? (Hannity, I'm afraid, is a caricature; not an influential commentator.) Rush is influential; but he really DRIVES AWAY a consensus. Notice everyday:

My way or the highway," says the wonderful Rushbeau. Turning off every liberal and moderate in the land --those who HAVE considerable say & influence.

Keep those radio guys OUT of the overall public food fights. Let them fire up our own people.

Let the political heavies work this thing out TOGETHER. Don't drive them farther apart!

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Sean and Rush should shut up...

Some people plan their day around getting in their car and running errands or doing business in order to listen to Rush and Sean on their car radios. That is six hours of consuming $4/gallon fuel just to listen to Rush and Sean tell them the reasons that the fuel they're burning is so expensive.

We could conserve a lot of fuel if Rush and Sean would just shut up so people would stop driving six hours a day during their respective shows. Or maybe those listeners just need to turn on their home stereos instead of their cars.

I don't imagine Rush and Sean will shut up. And I don't imagine any reasonable person would want them to shut up...

Stupid Stupid Stupid
For every problem there is a solution that is simple, elegant, and wrong. So, once more.

Oil from coastal drilling or ANWR will not cut costs to Americans. That oil will be funneled into the world market and will be sold at the price of the day. If it does change the supply demand curves and lower costs, the change will be momentary. Lower costs will simply drive demand even higher. Prices will go right back to where they were. Oil supply is not the issue!

As long as demand is high (China and India assure that) and the Middle East is unstable (Iraq and Iran drive that), then oil prices will not drop.

We should have a highly developed conservation mentality when it comes to energy. (No more tax breaks for huge vehicles) We should be exploring internally so we have the infrastructure in place should an emergency arise. We should be adding to our nuclear and alternative fuel capacity. And we should be stressign innovation.

The drill here, drill now mentality is stupid. It's a simple minded slogan that will ultimately prevent us from developing a comprehensive plan.


The perfect gambit
And, in the end, opening up the final 20% while the industry is not exploiting the 80% where they can drill, will not have an impact either.

The other part of this argument that is lacking, of course, is what the production costs in those new fields are, and whether or not the industry feels the pricing we now experience will sustain itself in the long term.

Obviously, there's a real disconnect here. The industry told Congress there was no reason, other than the weak dollar and speculation, for oil to have doubled over the last year. They are saying that we have enough oil to supply the current demand. And, if it believes that, then it's drilling strategy will be to supply the demand cureve as it rises - not produces excess fuel that will drive the prices down. When people say drill - we should remember that Congress isn't doing the drilling. The oil industry is - and it has no interest in political realities. Rather, it reacts solely to economics and supply and demand.

In a practicl sense, if oil wants Anwar opened, then what is transpiring today is the perfect gambit. They'll manipulate supplies and let the public pay $4 per gallon until they get their permits.

One and Done
Like so many others on the "right." This congressman doesn't do his job worth a dime and then asks his "BASE" the talking radio heads to come help him and his party out. News flash for Mr. Walberg..... Radio hosts are not accountable, DUH !!!!!! You on the other hand are accountable. Based on your blog and based on your stupid idea to move the masses via these two and other blowhards just indicates to me that you'll be back in the private sector or "spending time with your family" after you get soundly rejected come November. Yo, idiot ........... you are a congressman, do your job. What a twit

Politician,
Heal thyself!
You all know what you are elected to do and when you get to Washington you wimp out in order to get along and be re-elected.
Do not pass the buck along to radio personalities and citizens who have made our wishes known for years only to be betrayed by the likes of John McCain and other Democrats.
MAN UP and get the Republicans who have lost their minds and morals to do the right thing!

hey mod mark
how are you doing?

i love your daily posts that speak of common sense and libertarian leanings.

here is the real question.

so our multi-national oil companies start drilling but find that china is willing to pay substantially more than the U.S. for oil.

will they forsake profits to do right by the country.

have not seen that patriotism out of them yet.

ModMark and simple economics
""So this new Drill Drill Drill Now campaign will deliver domestic oil to us thirsty Americans at prices far below the international market?
The price of oil is set by the international market, not the domestic market. Increasing supply while ignoring demand may mean, lots more oil to sell at $140/barrel.""


It's painfully obvious that you know diddly squat about Supply and Demand.

Anyone with even a basic grasp of economics can tell you that More supply means Lower prices.

Gold isn't expensive because it's petty, it's expensive because it's Rare.

If a Mountain of diamonds was discovered tomorrow, diamonds would be dirt cheap.

Are you trying to convince us that increasing the world's supply of oil wouldn't lower the prices?

Just announcing that we are beginning to open new oil reserves would have an instantaneous effect on world oil prices.

Of course the dems Want high prices, and it's not for the high minded reasons of "envioromentalism", it's because they know that high oil prices will case spiraling inflation,and cripple our economy. Then they, and their willing accomplices in the MSM will point fingers at Bush, and say "It's all his fault", ushering in a complete dem takover.

Then watch how expensive things get.

Careful what you wish for mark, you may just get it, then regret it later.


Rep Walberg
Keep up the good fight in the house, we need more like you there to offset the evil being perpetrated by the leftists in the majority.

I wish you were my representative, but unfortunately, I'm "represented" by Lefty Bart Stupak. Of course, since our governor has crippled the MI economy, and most of my neighbors are on welfare, they want to keep the gravy train running.

Oil isn't the only place we need your help, we need you to convince the other republicans in DC to stop acting like democrats. The republican party didn't lose their majority because America is tilting left, they lost because the Republicans were tilting left.

Want to get the majority back?
Stop acting like democrats, and start acting like Republicans again! We don't want more "compassionate conservatism", we want the party to return to the Ronald Reagan model.

Or, you can continue to be "socialist-lite" and be a permanent minority.


christianlib an Redlac
Either of you two ever play the lotto? Did you ever get any guarantees that the ticket you bought would hit the jackpot? How about for just getting you anything back?

Oil and gas leases are just like that. They represent a chance, just a chance to either score big, get a little something back, or strike out.

Don't get fooled by the rhetoric going around that the oil is just there for the taking. When you spend a $ one million or $ 100 million to drill a well, you increase the odds by drilling in the best places. New leases in promising places are the best odds around.

I wish the Chuck Schumers in the would put their own money up in drilling in existing areas if they think it so great for the oil companies; otherwise, just shut up.

A simple solution

There's a lot of money to be made in the oil business right now. The government is regulating the industry to the point that only large multinationals are able to navigate the ponderous, tyrannical red tape.

The remedy for high oil prices is simple. Deregulate and offer incentives that will encourage entrepreneurs and small, nimble, creative companies to do what they do best; innovate and produce and get the product to the consumers. If they are given the opportunity, these small startups will do what small businesses always do; produce-produce-produce and force prices back down.

Probably won't happen with McCain... will NEVER happen with NObama...

How ironic
it is that the Republicans controlled both houses of Congress for six years with a Republican President, and yet it appears this issue was not addressed in any meaningful fashion. I agree with the earlier post that stated something to the effect that if this issue continues to fester, it will BECOME a national security issue at some point. We need leadership now, not more finger-pointing. If the Democrats are indeed blocking what you say they are, then you have an opportunity as a Congressman in the U.S. House to start IMPEACHMENT or CENSURE proceedings against any obstructionist who would stand in the way of securing our energy independence. It's that simple.

Federal leases are fine.
Sure the feds are leasing the land, but when the oil companies apply for permits to drill on the leased land, the environmentalists tie them up in court...i.e., a recent ruling by a federal judge denying an oil company the right to drill in Michigan on land it has leased for that purpose from the feds, due to the fact that a warbler lives nearby; the permit was applied for in 2005 and the feds have been collecting lease payments that whole time. So, talk all you want about the leased land...the feds are happy to take the lease payments...just try getting permits on that land!

J. Savage
You write:

"It's painfully obvious that you know diddly squat about Supply and Demand."

It's also obvious you know just exactly diddly squat and no more.

"Anyone with even a basic grasp of economics can tell you that more supply means Lower prices."

And anyone with something more than a basic grasp can tell you that lower prices will mean increased demand until a point of equilibrium is reached.

"If a Mountain of diamonds was discovered tomorrow, diamonds would be dirt cheap."

Except that there is no shortage of diamonds. If you read "Blood Diamonds" by Tim Campbell you will realize that a confluence of multi-national companies, cartels, and governments have conspired to create an artifical shortage of diamonds and keep prices far above the natural supply demand point.

"Are you trying to convince us that increasing the world's supply of oil wouldn't lower the prices?

Just announcing that we are beginning to open new oil reserves would have an instantaneous effect on world oil prices."

No it wouldn't. The Saudi announcement to increase production did nothing to lower prices. Increasing supply will merely increase demand and we will be right back where we started. We have to have a comprehensive solution, and "drill here, drill now" is not that solution.



I think demand will exceed

supply for the forseeable future. A technological advancement may change that future. At the present time however, we (the world) is dependent upon oil for its economic growth. Even increasing the amount of oil produced may not keep up with demand, it may keep prices from continuing to accelerate at their present pace.

Regardless of its effect on prices, drilling is worth it if we can reduce our dependence on oil from nations that are not our friends.

ModMark writes:
"The price of oil is set by the international market, not the domestic market. Increasing supply while ignoring demand may mean, lots more oil to sell at $140/barrel."
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Proving, as you do on EVERY column that supports increased drilling, that you STILL do not understand the principle of supply and demand on "futures" prices.

My God... and to think you actually VOTE!

Leaders LEAD
Congressman Walberg...First, I applaud your stances on the social issues and fiscal responsibility issues...both areas of neglect by too many Republicans in Congress. As for your appeal in this column, with all due respect, just do your job. You are an elected representative of the people and a leader. Real leaders LEAD. They don't look for help from unelected blowhards like Rush and Hannity. We are not looking to them for leadership. We are looking to YOU. If you are not up to the challenge, give way to someone who is up to it.

Yes drilling but what about our nation's
other problems?

I am talking about outsourcing of jobs.

If I had a regular job, I would be able to absorb higher gas prices.

My industry has been almost dead for the better part of the 21st Century. I tried starting a small service business, but as the economy declined, it is harder and harder to get clients.

I returned to my old industry, and have been picking up odd freelance jobs. There is ONE company in the entire Los Angeles area that started doing a new project with in house employees, but because of production costs are shipping the bulk of the work off to Canada.

Not Mexico, not China, not Thailand, Not Korea, not the Phillippines,

CANADA.

Socialist Canada is more business friendly than the United States of America.

In fact, they are offering American Corporations huge tax breaks to give their people jobs (and then stick it to the people by raising their taxes of course).

WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE?

Who cares how high gas prices are if you are always grubbing for work?

Yes, by all means, drill for oil in Alaska, but also do something about the job drain! The only thing that is going to lure corporations back to the United States is to get rid of the anti-business lobby that is trying to de-industrialize America!

Only Republicans can do this!

Yes corporations make lots of money! This makes them able to provide lots of jobs! Stop punishing them and make them happy to be here!

Supply and Demand in Hollywood

The Lefties don't act as if there is such a thing as Supply and Demand, which is why, as the people stop going to the movies, the price of tickets goes up. Of course, the spate of action movies with real heros this summer shows that they got it last year when no one went to their anti-war drivel. The box office take from these properties would inform a normal person that it is a good idea to provide what people want: "If you build it they will come."

But the Lefties are proud of their anti-commonsense stances, and they will be back at making unpalatable films as soon as they have a few million back in their overstuffed bank accounts.

No the Lefties don't learn: other wise, why are they determined to drive jobs out of the United States? Do they think they can keep punishing businesses and expect them to hang around?

Apparantly so.

Here in Los Angeles, they also seem to think they can keep sucking the taxpayer dry, and they will stick around.

There is a big middle class flight taking place to the outermost corners of Los Angeles county, to towns that are not overrun with illegal aliens.

City revenues have so dropped, that they have been trying to devise ways to tax people that they have no jurisdiction over: draconian traffic and parking fines, for example. Pretending to clean the streets with ineffective street cleaners, that leave them just as dirty as ever. And the ever popular fining people for driving with a cell phone.

And what do they do with all this money? Open wide the country's doors to all manner of riff raff, who come here and form gangs, steal public statues to sell for scrap, drive drunk, break into homes and molest old ladies.

And who does the city punish?

The middle class.

They really don't punish the rich, because the rich pay for the politician's campaigns.

We can't "Conserve" our way out either
Th libs on this thread constantly bleat the dem party line "We can't drill our way out of this".

Yet they completely miss the fact that we cant "Conserve" our way out either.

If every American started rding bikes to work, it would have little effect on oil prices becauyse china and India are increasing demand faster than we decrease it.

No we can't simply drill our way out of this mess, we need a Comprehensive energy policy, but whenever one is put forward the dems unite to scream "NO We Can't!"!

We cant Drill, we can't use oil shale, we can't use coal/oil-coal/gas, we can't build new nuke plants, we can't even use Wind!

Have you seen the commercials paid for by T. Boone Pickens? He wants to invest billions of his own money to build wind farms, yet environmental wackos, and democrats are doing all they can to stop him by refusing to let him build the transmission lines needed to get the power to the customers.

Teddy Kennedy claims he wants alternative energy, yet is standing in the way of a wind farm 50 miles from martha's vineyard, because he may be offended by the ugly windmills when he's cruising around on his yaught.

Dems Do Not want us to be energy independent, regardless of all the noises they make to the contrary, this is simply a case of playing partisan politics with our national security.
The worse the economy gets, the easier it is for the dems to point fingers at republicans.

cont.

WE COULD HAVE PLENTY OF OIL WITHIN 24 MO
We have 800 Billion barrels of oil in shale that could be converted and put on the U.S. market within 2 years at $40 per bbl.

That is 3 times the amount of oil Saudia Arabia has. No time need be spent on discovery or drilling. We know where it is, we just have to dig it out.

In addition we have 400 years supply of coal, much of which could be converted and placed on the market also at $40 per bbl.

During WWII, the Germans had no crude oil so they converted coal to gasoline for all their needs. They did it using the Fischer Tropsch Process and were on line in less than 6 months.

In fact South Africa in response to an oil embargo switched to coal and converted it to fuel oil and is still doing it.

Oil Shale is being converted to oil every day in Australia. The governors of Montana, Colorado, and Utah want us to start mining oil shale.

The Dems say that we can't drill our way out. We don't have to , We DIG our way out. We have unlimited quantities of shale oil and coal to mine and convert to gasoline.

Plus the gasoline can be on the market in 2 years.

The Dems argue that this will cause an increase in Global Warming. But what if Global Warming is a fraud as it appears more so every day.

31,000 scientists now reject the Global Warming agenda (9,000 Ph.D.'s) and the gashouse gas theory.

Another plus is that oil prices will drop almost immediately.

I don't see how the Dems could logically oppose Shale Oil conversion; 800 billion recoverable bbls., in a relatively remote area, we know it's there.

The Dems argue that this will cause an increase in Global Warming. But what if Global Warming is a fraud as it appears more so every day.

Our whole economy may be stalled because of a false science of Global Warming.

Once the oil rich countries see what we are doing they will flood the market with oil to get as much money now while the price of oil is excessive.



ModMark writes:
"If demand for gas just keep pace with supplies, we are still screwed."
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Yes, we are.

But imagine what will happen to prices if we DON'T increase supplies - which seems to BE the plan of the political left?

If EVERYONE - regardless of political leanings - were to call, write, email, etc., their Congressmen and Senators and DEMANDED that all "common sense" roadblocks to drilling and refining be lifted - can you or anyone imagine that these political hacks would ignore us?

It worked with the Amnesty bill.

conserve part 2
How many poor working families will be able to afford the hybrids, and electric cars dems cry for? When poor folks around me are freezing this winter, and deciding whether to buy groceries or pay their heat bills, should I just tell them that it's for their own good? Just conserve, deal with frozen water pipes, you don't need working water, your kids don't need to sleep in a warm house, it's for the good of the environment, right?

I thought democrats were supposed to be the party that looks out for the "Little guy", yet their policies will hurt the poor the most.

Let's Be Self-Sufficient
I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Our leaders have taught us the importance of being self-sufficient and not have to rely on others for our needs. By being self-sufficient we act responsibly with those items that we have worked for. This country needs to search, drill, excavate, produce, whatever for our own energy resources. We have the knowledge, technology and money to do it. Let's be self-sufficient, and not rely on foriegn countries for our energy needs. The Dems want us to be needy, it's what keeps them in power.

Self-Sufficient?
Not all the LDS folks believe in self-sufficiency, or Mitt Romney wouldn't have sat idle while his Bain Capital buddies brokered a deal with Huawei. A deal that could very well pose a threat to our national security. I guess Mitt doesn't mind Chinese foxes in our Defense Dept. hen house?

Jsavage
Look,

I am a yooper as well, so don't hand me the hard to surive story. (One of the best things you can do to insure your family's survival is to get the hell out of the UP.)

That said, both modmark and I are here as liberlas ont his issue and we BOTh indicate that we need to explore for and produce more oil domestically. What I do not hear is a corresponding realization for the right wing that we need a serious conservation effort.

Mark
""Stupid arguments... There is a argument on how much oil shale there is. It is not 1.3 trillion, it is only 800 billion barrels..

Hmmm at 20 mil/ day , that comes out to 100 years supply..""

In 100 years we can find alternatives to oil dontcha think? That is if environmentalist wackos and obstructionist dems don't prevent the alternatives.

Giving our money to countries that hate us to supply the energy we need is a really stupid idea. If we weren't sending billions daily to the middle east, Al Qaeda would be throwing rocks, not RPGs at our troops

Who would you rather see get our enegy dollars, Americans, or Saudis?

Nancy Pelosi claims that increasing domestic production won't affect prices, yet she's now clling for depleting the strategic oil reserves to lower prices. So in her twisted universe, Producing our own oil is a bad idea, but reducing the amount of oil we have or emergencies is????

And folks wonder why I say democrats suffer from Rectal-Cranial inversion?

ModMark:
And there is a theory that oil MAY be renewable - and not really a "fossil fuel" at all.

Can't remember where I heard this, but it was recently.

Imagine that...

Communicate, Shout, Demand
If Republicans are trying to do something. How about starting with ads on tv, radio, and anywhere else they might be effective. How about letting people know what you are doing. How about telling people just what the democrats are doing to prevent anything from coming up for discussion. In other words, how about fighting in the media, on tv, in print...wherever you can, even if you have to stand on a corner...tell people it is the dems that are stopping anything from being done. It is no longer an excuse to do nothing. Start drilling now, at least we might have something to put in our gas tanks in three years while we are getting other energy sources up and running...we need it all. If we all go to electric cars...we need electricity. Where is that going to come from. It will not come instantaneously..it takes time to build a nuclear plant, to build a clean coal plant, for shale to be developed, for anything, from methane to plant...we no longer have the time...we have to do something NOW...Congress should not go on an August recess, that is something you should be demanding until something is done to get us started on energy independence...txpoljldy

Rocketeer
Cannot agree with you more...you are so right on. and you are from CA...amazing. With your gov. opposing off shore drilling..txpoljldy

pr is correct
yes indeed pr, we should be doing something right now. WE should have been doing something ten years ago, or 5 years ago. How can it be possible that a Republican President with a Republican Senate and House did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

How could it be that the Republcain administration gave enormous tax credits to the most fuel inefficient vehicles on the road? How could it be that the Vice President refused to even tell the American people who was involved in formulating his energy policy.


Jack
""I am a yooper as well, so don't hand me the hard to surive story. (One of the best things you can do to insure your family's survival is to get the hell out of the UP.)""

First of all I'm not in the UP, just because I mentioned poor folks doesn't mean i'm in the UP.
Hell just about the whole state anymore is poor thanks to the liberal governor and her anti-business tax structure.

About moving away, First, most of the people around here couldn't afford to leave the state, and if they did, eventually the whole state would be an environmental wacko's wet-dream, a huge chunk of land with No people.

If moving from a cold climate is your only solution for high energy prices, you're no better than jimmy Carter telling us to lower our standard of living and "wear a sweater".

Do you recall how well that worked for Jimmy?
I do, he lost in a Landslide.

Why do you libs have such a hate for Americans and our high standard of living? Will you be happy when we're all living like the typical resident of Malawi?

Besides, I refuse to leave, I love Michigan, and will work tirelessly from the inside to help bring it back to the Model we used to be for the whole country.

You know, back before the democrats
killed our economy. Blanchard destroyed our economy, then Engler turned us into a success story (before he turned evil). Now Granholm is working overtime to turn this beautiful state into a 3rd world country. And she's succeeding. If you can call it success.

Want to see the USA under Obama? Take a Long look at the mess the dems have made of Michigan.

Repeat after me, Yes We Can!, Yes We Can!, Yes We Can!

Something else up maybe?
I'm thinking the oil companies have been working on alternative fuels and are nearly ready to release them. Why else would they be pricing themselves into an otherwise early grave? $4.00 a gallon makes an electric car start to look attractive, it makes Hydrogen start to look affordable, it really starts to open the doors for other sources on energy and other, up till now, cost prohibitive options. If the high prices are all about oil companies GREED, then they must have some new thing on the horizon, because otherwise they are awfully shortsighted.

Cheap affordable gas keeps people happy with gas powered cars. Make it too spendy and people start being willing to look at alternatives. For those who heat their homes with oil, switching to electric begins to look like a cost effective move. Soon oil companies will have priced themselves out of a job. Expensive fuel isn't the key to good, solid, lasting profits, cheap fuel is. Do you really think they are too stupid to understand that?

I don't. I think something else is going on.

Abiotic Ouil
The theory is called Abiotic Oil. It was promulgated by the Russians, back in 70's I think, and it's a crock.

But because it feeds the Young Earth Creation movement it has some currency among scientific illiterates


Fuel efficent?
Oh and so far as fuel efficient vehicles go, which is better, to have a Suburban which you can fit your family into, as well as bring along a friend, carpool multiple kids to practice, or have a tiny vehicle so you can afford the daily driving, but also no longer have any room for transport so where in the past there was one rig, now two, or even three on the road to the same destination. And not everyone lives in an urban environment where mass transportation and all the headaches that creates is even possible.

New electric cars would be cool, hybrids sound great (though it turns out they actually aren't so green between the increased energy to produce them, the hazardous waste related to the batteries, and the fact that all those batteries do wear out) but the people being hurt most by all this CAN'T AFFORD, even with the rising prices of fuel, new fancy cars.

There's a new electric car I have seen, it seats two, has about a thirty to forty mile range on a full charge and costs OVER $10,000. Oh and it can only go 25mph due to some government restrictions on the kind of car it is, they are working to legislate that up to a whopping 40 mph (still can't even maintains speed limit on major arteries with 45mph and 50mph speed limits) I think it's the cutest little car. I understand there is a 4 door version which can fit two adults and two kids as well, but it's range is more limited and it's cost, of course higher. Is this a real option for most families?

Seems to me what a HUGE number of lefties want to do is DRIVE DOWN our standard of living, DRIVE DOWN our prosperity, DRIVE DOWN our need to drive because we can't afford to drive anywhere anyway, or buy anything once we get there.

I think the oil companies see the hand writing on the wall, they sense that the left is looking to stab them in the heart no matter what they do, and they are looking to simply get as much in the bank as they can before that day comes. That's what I think is up.

Drill Away!!
Tha Democrats are against drilling anywhere at this time. You can bet your bottom dollar,they will came around in due time.

What they will try to do is make the populace beg for a fix and then they will change their minds. LET'S DRILL!!

The dummies (Obama voters) will fall all over themselves because the Democrats will give us oil!!!They get all the credit for their help.

The MSM will play it up,just like they do everything. Democrats will be our saviors and Republicans will be the reason oil prices are high.

Congress' low opinion polls will rise and the Democrats will look like they have been for it all along,and the Republicans just dragged their feet!!Happens every time.


RAD DAD
I am no more interested in driving down your standard of living than you are interested in sending billions of dollars to the Middle East so Islamic fundamentalists can plan our demise in comfort.

Simplistic, one dimensional thinking is the enemy here. If nothing matters to you other than having a huge vehicle to trudge around in, just pay the extra money and stop complaining.




R.A.D. Dad
""There's a new electric car I have seen, it seats two, has about a thirty to forty mile range on a full charge and costs OVER $10,000. Oh and it can only go 25mph due to some government restrictions on the kind of car it is, ""

Yeah Dad, I agree, besides, where I live that car would be totally impractical. It's a 20 mile drive to the nearest supermarket, so if I had one of those toy cars (If I could even fit in it, I'm over 6 feet tall) I'd have to find a place to recharge it just to get back home from the store.

I don't drive a huge SUV, just a ford taurus (28 mpg highway), we conserve every way we can, I already replaced every window/door in the house, added more insulation and so on, but this winter, it's going to Hurt when we get the heat bills. And I'm going to be in much better shape than most of my neighbors because I work for mytself in a global economy, they can't find a job to save their lives because of dem control of the state.

I know that I'll have neighbors this winter who will have to choose between paying for heat, or for food. The sad part is, it doesn't have to be this way.

Anyone else remember when the dems won in 2006 on the promise of LOWERING gas prices?

How's that working out?

Hey Those who Say no to Drilling
Why not drill?
Where is the problem?
You folks can have your battery toys and your windmills. Drilling will not interfere with your hopes, wishes and green aspirations.
It will not cost you anything.
So, why not drill?
Where is the problem?

Gas Prices
Mountain Rose, I see you live in CA as do I. Have gas prices per gallon gone down in your neighborhood? They have by me and I am trying to figure out why. What is going on? I don't trust the drop in prices. We are the leading state with the highest prices.

Jackpine
Don't be so hard on San Fran Nancy, yes she promised a cure for our energy problems two yearsago but how have the American public thanked them?

With single digit approval ratings, that's how and the only reason they are single digits is because nothing is lower than single digit, if it could go lower it would.

Oh no, you want our secret you better learn how to show some gratitude for a change. You can start by not making fun of all those hardly, uh hard working congress types.

Next thing you do is vote for that guy, oh you know the kid with those big ears and funny name, oh, uh... not that old fellow McCain, the other one, that other Democrat, the one that got Hillary all in such a snit. Anyway, you get him voted in and then maybe we'll think about revealing our secret plan.

Leroy
""Next thing you do is vote for that guy, oh you know the kid with those big ears and funny name, oh, uh... not that old fellow McCain, the other one, that other Democrat, the one that got Hillary all in such a snit. Anyway, you get him voted in and then maybe we'll think about revealing our secret plan. ""


Yes We Can! (screw up america) Yes We Can! (screw up america) Yes We Can! (screw up america)

I'd rather see Rush and Sean..
focused on bringing down McCain.

Mod Mark
""Trains, Semi's and even tug boats are looking to this technology for the future.""


Actually they've been using hybrid technoloy on "diesel" locomotives for years. The diesel engine basically generates the electricity to drive the electric motors in the wheels.

I have no problems with hybrids, electric cars or even the "air powered car" invented in france.(Actually I think the air powered car is a really cool idea) My only problem is, it will take time to convert our economy from oil based to, alternatives. In the meantime we can't cripple our economy on a hope and a dream.

Regardless of what we Hope to Change to in the future, right now we need OIL to power our economy. If the dems and their environmental wacko allies hadn't blocked every attemt to build a new nuke plant for the past 30 years, we would have more oil for our cars. Of course expecting democrats to support any kind of common sense is an exercise in futility.

Hell, they bleat that we need alternative energy, then block all attempts to put alternatives on-line. How much sense does that make?

According to Harry Reid, Oil Makes Us Sick!
(Harry Reid makes Me sick)

Republicans have tried for years to get dem support for energy plans that included conservation along with increased production, but the dems just say NO every time.

We can't Drill our way out, but we can't just Conserve our way out either, until the dems standing in the way realize this, we'll be stuck exactly where we are now, Energy Limbo.

You brought it on yourself.
"As a first-term Congressman, I have a target on my back and will likely face a well-funded, anti-production Democrat this fall."

You have only yourself and your party to blame. High prices for oil and other commodities are entirely the result of inflation - the government printing money to pay for dramatic increases in expenditures, resulting in a lower valued dollar, and, in turn, higher prices for commodities. And who is suffering most from this inflation? The poorest. The ones you government people claim to care so much for. You Republicans are as anti-production as Democrats.

McCain has to be the cheerleader
He needs a better message than calling Obama "mister no."

He needs to explain in simple terms that flooding the foreign market with American Dollars is destroying its value. And the second punch is that this money is no longer in America a to spend on what we need - ouch.


If you understand this - you understand the significance of energy independence.

Careful RickV404
Your Bush Derangement Syndrome is showing. :op

Jackpine Savage
Your post #76 is so on the money!!!!!

ModMark says
Now I like Mr, Tillerson, he gets my vote for CEo of the century and is doing what is right for Exxon, keep supplies tight and match demand.

If supplies were matching demand the price would not rise.

Jack says
Oil from coastal drilling or ANWR will not cut costs to Americans. That oil will be funneled into the world market and will be sold at the price of the day. If it does change the supply demand curves and lower costs, the change will be momentary. Lower costs will simply drive demand even higher. Prices will go right back to where they were. Oil supply is not the issue!

So you've never witnessed a glut in a market? Oil has had them. Why not again? Furthermore if as some here have pointed out, this is a national security issue there is reason to believe that oil extracted from the public lands of the United States could be sequestered for domestic consumption.
Hey, it comes off of OUR land.
I think you've convinced yourself that half of the supply/demand curve chart is either irrelavent or outmoded. I disagree.

Redlac said
Obviously, there's a real disconnect here. The industry told Congress there was no reason, other than the weak dollar and speculation, for oil to have doubled over the last year. They are saying that we have enough oil to supply the current demand.

No they did not! They said more than that and it's important to include it. They said that has been said but not by industry execs. They increased demand, mostly from China and India were to blame.
So if demand is partly to blame then supply is partly a solution. For a longer period of time, since the early part of this century it has been the demand side of the equation including refining capacity that oil execs have pointed to as the reason for price increases and political instability in the Middle East. It is only recently that the weak dollar and speculation has entered the discussion.
An incomplete explanation is as welcome as a false one.

Mod Mark asks
The questions I raise, what oil exec in his right mind will invest billions to oversupply the oil market to send prices crashing down?

The one who thinks he can steal market share with a lower price, that's who. That's how Walmart does it. They operate on a principle of low prices and volume. Oil is a good candidate for that marketing idea.
I like it.

Opinions from the heartland
Odd, I think, the following:
U.S. farmer's "making hay" with ethanol et al gov't price support programs - we trust them to plant the correct mix of crops and join their celebration of good profits for a change;
Oil/gas prices skyrocket, we trust the auto makers to improve their inventory to include more efficient production;
Oil companies are making record profits and we think they are skalawags. We think we are smarter than they and they don't know where they should drill to deliver the goods at the best price. Why are they so harshly judged and second guessed? For heaven's sakes, lets enjoy their expertise and let 'em go for it on American properties. gene, Longmont, CO


ModMark says
Remember, we do not have to eliminate the use of gas but just a 5% drop in demand could have major impacts on the price.

So a drop in local demand impacts price but an increase in local supply won't?
Stupendous, man.
And some of you are making a false assumption. That is; that only the large oil companies are in play in this supply/demand/price story. You need to ask yourself why you are led to believe that no new players might come on board. A foreign company maybe. Or a new start-up. Or an existing small player that capitalizes on the pent up demand in the market.
Take the blinders off.

Jack says
Subject: Abiotic Ouil
The theory is called Abiotic Oil. It was promulgated by the Russians, back in 70's I think, and it's a crock.

But because it feeds the Young Earth Creation movement it has some currency among scientific illiterates


70's, Russians, Young Earth Creation.. Now that just doesn't add up.
Besides, it is a moot point. The only thing Abiotic Oil "might" prove is that the reasoning behind the limits of supply would be undermined. In fact if Abiotic oil were a proven theory today it wouldn't add one drop to the supply. It would just change our perceptions of it.

para_dimz
Finally someone who understands economics! Glad i lived to see it.

thank you!!!!!

para_dimz
Sorry about the typos.

Congressman Walberg
First, congratulations on winning a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives. Second, thank you for writing on Townhall. This is an excellent forum for discussion.

And, to ModMark, thank you for the post earlier noting that Shell just cancelled a new refinery, citing uncertainty in demand and soaring construction costs.

Congressman, I must say that new refineries are not the solution. As a earlier poster wrote, ExxonMobil and others have clearly stated that new refineries will not bring down the price of oil, nor gasoline.

I worked in the refining industry since 1974, all over the world. I don't usually trumpet my credentials, but there is very little alternative on such a forum as this.

What is working now, and will work even better tomorrow and for the foreseeable future, is to reduce our energy use. By that, I mean the following:

First, watch as Americans voluntarily purchase vehicles that achieve higher miles per gallon, such as hybrids and plug-in hybrids. High-efficiency conventional vehicles are for sale, now.

Second, watch as Americans convert their existing cars to hybrids, using the currently available after-market conversion systems.

Third, watch as Americans modify their driving habits, such as slowing down voluntarily from 70 miles per hour, to 65 or even 60 miles per hour.

Fourth, note that the U.S. demand for gasoline, diesel, and jet fuel has steadily declined for the past few months, according to the EIA's weekly statistics.

Finally, note that just today, a major refining company in Port Arthur, Texas, announced that it is cutting back throughput due to market conditions. That means it can not make money on its products. Certainly in this business environment, advocating for more refineries is not the answer.

“Gang” of House members to push for dril

Are we drilling for oil?

THEHILL-The House is going to have its own “gang” of Republicans and Democrats who want to push for more drilling to relieve gas prices.

The Democrats in the group, led by Rep. Neal Abercrombie (D-Hawaii), will be bucking Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), who earlier Thursday called efforts to open up new areas to drilling “a hoax.”

Abercrombie announced late Thursday that he and Rep. John Peterson (R-Pa.), one of the loudest voices for more drilling, will form a bipartisan working group to discuss energy issues.

In an interview this week about his work with Peterson, Abercrombie said the Democratic message on energy is not working.

“Simply standing up and saying, you can’t drill your way out of this doesn’t work,” Abercrombie said. “The people are standing up and saying, ‘Yes, we can.’”

There are to be 20 members of the working group – 10 Democrats and 10 Republicans. The members will be announced Tuesday.

read more

http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/%e2%80%9cgang%e2%8 0%9d-of-house-members-to-push-for-drilling

JackPine Savage re Conservation
I disagree. Conservation is a proven, fast, effective way to cut energy costs.

Consider this: If I have a car that gets 15 miles to the gallon, and I drive 15,000 miles each year, I must purchase 1000 gallons of gasoline. At today's price for gas, that is roughly $4000.

But, if I trade it in and purchase a car that gets 30 miles to the gallon, or convert my car to a hybrid that does the same, then I only need buy 500 gallons of gas and spend $2000 in a year.

That is instant relief in my wallet.

Contrast that with what happens with drill, drill, hope to hit oil, oops, got another dry hole, and finally after some years, I get some oil. I am still buying 1000 gallons of gasoline each year.

Conservation works. Do not believe those who minimize or marginalize conservation.

Americans are conserving. We are currently using approximately 2 percent less transportation fuel compared to a year ago, see the EIA website. That is very significant, because our demand normally increases by approximately 1 to 2 percent each year.

JackPine Savage - Hybrid Trains
By hybrid, the conventional definition is a power train that recovers some of the energy of braking, converts it to electricity and stores it in a battery.

You are correct that we have had diesel-electric locomotives for some years, but the regenerative braking is a new innovation.

We had such a hybrid locomotive in Los Angeles' Union Station a few months ago. They are rare at the moment, but more will be placed in service. Turnover of railroad locomotives is fairly slow due to the very high cost for each one.

ModMark n Sue n Mountain Rose
ModMark, Greetings, and thanks for carrying the ball. Great job.

I wanted to jump in this conversation much earlier, but was unavoidably detained.

Sue and Mountain Rose, re lower gas prices. I live in the Los Angeles area, and see that gasoline prices are down just a bit.

I also see that people are driving slower than ever on highways that are not congested. We are conserving in California, and doing this without any mandate or legislation. People are smart, and do what it takes to cut fuel costs. Driving just a bit slower is very effective.

The lower prices are likely due to lower demand.

Primus
Surely you would agree that demand is a key component of the supply/demand dynamic of economics.

As Americans reduce our demand for gasoline, refineries will not be able to sell as much of it. They will then, as today in Port Arthur, reduce their throughput of crude oil, thus decreasing the demand for crude oil. Other will follow suit, and pretty soon the price of crude oil will drop.

And, Americans are changing sufficiently to make a measurable impact on gasoline demand. I just received an invitation from a Volkswagen dealer to test-drive the brand-new Jetta TDI, a diesel-powered car that meets emission standards in all 50 states.

It gets about 50 miles to the gallon, depending on whose data one reads. It will get about 75 after it is converted to a hybrid with one of those after-market systems.

Jackpine Savage
"If every American started rding bikes to work, it would have little effect on oil prices becauyse china and India are increasing demand faster than we decrease it."
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Not only that, but the workplace would be smellier.

I used to work with a guy who rode his bike to work... Pee-yew!!!

energyguy
Yes, but if the Lefties ran the oil companies, the price would go up every time the demand went down, just the same as at the box office. They would do this until demand went to zero, and then they would look around for someone else to blame.

Energyguy
""Conservation works. Do not believe those who minimize or marginalize conservation.""

Obviously you missed part of what I said.

I don't doubt that conservation will help.
Where I disagree is where Conservation alone is the only answer. This is the stand the democrats have taken.

And it's not just about SUVs, Everything you touch is affected by High energy prices.

Everything you eat, work with, play with and touch every day is carried by Trucks.
Truckers are paying $5 per gallon of diesel.

Corporations aren't going to eat all of the increased cost, so they pass it on to the consumer. As a result the consumers Consume less to offset the higher prices. This means our economy slows down, causing layoffs, which means less money flowing in the economy, which means less is consumed, which means more layoffs........

Whe have little choice but conserve with today's prices, because unlike the Govt. we can't just demand more money at gunpoint.

Conservation is Definitely Part of the answer, just not the Whole answer.

Screw the caribou, we need energy Now.

Re Coal to Oil
If $5 per gallon for diesel looks bad, just see what it will cost if it is made from coal.

There is a reason coal is not converted to oil. The Germans did it out of desperation when we cut off their oil supplies from overseas. Sure, the technology exists, but we can make hydrogen from water using electricity, too.

No refinery does that, though, because it is so much more economic to use natural gas and split that molecule (methane), add a bit of water vapor as steam, and create hydrogen and carbon dioxide.

We can also make gasoline from coal, and make gasoline from methane. The cost of such gasoline makes the $4 we pay today look very cheap.

Please, be careful what you wish for!

ModMark
Subject: Ms. Rose
"I am talking about outsourcing of jobs."
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Are you a leftie or righty?
Remember Bush's trip to India where he praised the Indian IT workers? How many US IT workers have been outsourced to India?
You needed a stronger union...
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Surely you know I am a Rightie!

I think when the Constitution says "promote the general welfare," as part of the government's duties, I DON'T think it means handing out a lot of freebies to a lot of liars and cheats.

I DO think that the government has a duty to provide a business-friendly environment, so that the corporations don't run screaming to foreign countries!

Instead of making companies feel welcome here, they tax them and regulate them till they can't move, and then call them on the carpet like criminals (while the Lefties let the real criminals run wild in the streets).

And then they wonder why the companies are running away in droves!

Strong union?

I have a corrupt union.

Hi Sue!
I have been working at home, and avoiding driving at all, so it has been a while since I filled up.

When I do, I try not to look, to avoid appoplexy!!!

California might have gone down in gas prices, but is still way above the national average due to the draconian state taxes on the price of gas.

Some History
Let's review the oil industry. We had a major price shock in 1979, when the Iranian revolution happened. Just afterward, OPEC raised the world price of their marker crude (actually a basket of crudes, but let's ignore that for now), up to $32 per barrel. It had been about $8 per barrel.

Previous to that, in 1973, OPEC raised the price from about $2 per barrel to $8 per barrel.

That is an increase from $2 to $32 in less than 10 years.

Compare that to today. We went from $20 to $140, an increase of 7 times. It was an increase of 16 times back then.

Sure, people squawked. Congress made speeches, but then actually passed some pretty good legislation, including the Energy Policy and Conservation Act. Part of that Act required US industry to reduce, or conserve, energy by at least 20 percent (as I remember). That was compared to a base year of 1978. And we did it. And we survived. We even thrived.

Have some faith in American geeks and engineers. We did it before, we will do it again. (does that sound like a WW-I slogan?)

The last time around, in the mid-70's, we had no alternatives to high-priced oil. Why should we? We knew about solar, and windmills, and electric cars were known, but nobody had any incentive to make them economic. We could not, not with $2 oil!

Now, the game has changed. Watch us fly, folks. Sure, the rest of the world is consuming more oil. But, does anyone think they are buying cars that get 12 miles to the gallon? Nope. They dont want to waste their hard-earned dollars any more than we do.

This time, it is the Middle East and OPEC, against the geeks and engineers of the rest of the world.

And I'm betting on us.


Oil Imports down...

U.S. Oil imports have dropped 10.5% since last year, and U.S. oil exports have risen.

OPEC has reduced, not increased, oil production this year. Either they're running out of oil, or they intend to Sway the U.S. elections by forcing a recession upon us. Wonder who that will help in November?

The more we conserve oil, the tighter OPEC shuts off the tap, and the higher the prices go.

Being that all things are political, we can be sure that foul smell is indeed a rat.

Hi ModMark
I think that only big corporations can afford to pay large salaries, and as the government chases them away, the rest of us are left to work for medium to small companies, who can barely pay expenses, much less decent wages.

I don't expect the government to give me a job, just not chase the employers away by abusing them.

Speaking of labor unions
The City of Los Angeles is now filled to the brim with Lefties who are ruining my fair city.

There is a revenue crisis, because anyone with a brain in his head has fled for the hills, and there are fewer suckers to tax into oblivion.

However, do you think the Lefties in the city unions give a cr@p that there is less money to go around?

No!

While the rest of the country is expected to tighten its belt, the labor unions want more, more, more!

This is a living illustration of the fable of the Goose That Laid The Golden Egg.

So what does the city do?

Send out an army of police to hand out traffic and parking tickets to the white collar workers who still commute into the city after fleeing their mismanagement.

And then the Lefties have the nerve to call conservatives greedy, when they are the worst lot of money grubbers I have ever seen!

Technology
produces the conservation.

For example, imagine the U.S. car fleet getting hybridized within one year. Then our oil demand would not be 20 million barrels per day, but around 12. Is that a realistic scenario? It may be, if there are enough batteries and electric wheel-motors available to install.

It could be done if Congress, or the states, were to subsidize the installation of the hybrid systems. We already have such subsidies for various renewable energy systems, including solar, wind, and ethanol.

Currently, these hybrid systems cost about $7000. Some Americans will purchase at that price, but others will find it out of their range.

But, when enough of these are sold, and our gasoline and diesel consumption drops far enough, we will see gasoline prices drop like a stone on a still day.

The geeks and engineers are winning. Big-time, as we used to say back in Dallas.

Link to Hybrid Aftermarket

Go Walberg
Tim Walberg is the new breed the House Republicans need to lead effectively. Thanks Congressman for pushing for American energy self sufficiency.

Mountain Rose
too true. Increased fines for all traffic violations, hotel taxes that are out of sight, rental car taxes too, there is even a 10 percent city tax on electric bills. And our general sales tax is outrageous at 8.25 percent.

That is one reason why so many people move out of LA into Orange County, and Ventura County, even San Bernardino County and make the long commutes. There are other reasons, of course, like quality of life, crime, noise, congestion, horrible schools, etc.

It will be interesting to see how the City and County of Los Angeles each manage their financial affairs after a few more years of this.

No More Nukes
Congressman, I respectfully disagree with you on nuclear energy, as I did with your statement that more refineries are needed.

Nuclear power is not the answer.

I just had an interesting exchange on Townhall with Vic on this subject. The fact is that nuclear power plants are not only horribly toxic, as they create plutonium and other isotopes that last for thousands of years, but they are incredibly expensive.

Please do not believe the mis-information that these can be built for $1 billion for 1000 megawatts. That is the same falsity that we heard in the 1970s, and is offered by the companies that benefit by selling them. Since then, steel has increased by at least a factor of three, and concrete has also increased many times. Copper, too.

Even if construction time is streamlined by unprecedented muzzling of environmentalists to prevent their lawsuits, the costs to build these will be much, much higher. The constitutionality of such muzzling is questionable.

And power prices will go way up as a result. Then, as before, industries will build their own generation facilities and quit buying utility power. Refineries and chemical plants did this by building cogeneration plants. Businesses now have distributed generation systems that were not available back then. They, too, will drop off the grid.

The result was then, and will be again, that fewer customers are left on the grid to pay for the power plants. Their electric power rates go up and up.

This is not a good scenario for anyone.

Jackpine Savage = Republican Fool
'Nuff said.

No Nukes
I don't really want to get into a debate over nuclear tonight.

But, I am sure the nuclear topic will appear somewhere on TH in the next few months. We can all present our facts and arguments then. Should be a fun discussion.

The key point to remember is as I wrote above to the Congressman, and earlier to Vic: not just the refineries have serious options to high power prices due to nukes, this time around.

Nobody is going to tolerate outrageous price increases like we saw last time, and nobody should ever have to do that.

I suggest reading up on Distributed Generation. These things are the size of a refrigerator, run on natural gas that you would have used anyway to make hot water or heat your home, plus produce all your electricity.

They make air conditioning in the summer, and home heat in winter. You can even sell excess power back to the utility at their peak rates. Utilities LOVE that. (not)

Geeks and engineers. Gotta love 'em.

Utility planners, take note, or ignore this at your peril. You have far less control of our destinies than 30 years ago. The geeks and engineers have been not been sitting idly by, but have been very busy.

NO DOUBT WE ARE SUFFERING
We may not be in an official recession, but the American people are suffering. Oh this poor woman might not have enough money for gas so her teenager can take the car out for a good time. OH GOD HELP US!! I saw on NBC Nightly News that some Americans couldn't afford the gas to take their boats out on the water, and that some had to cook hamburgers and hot dogs instead of t-bone steaks on the grill.

OH HOW WE ARE SUFFERING!!!

Recession? Maybe not. Depression? Maybe. Apocolypse just might be a better word for it.

Also Shell closed their
Refinery in Bakersfield in 2004 because it wasn't profitable.

Congress
The point that needs to be driven home is that the Republicans do NOT appear to be fighting - at least not with the vigor of the Democrats. We need some fighters in Congress. We need tough words. When principle is involved - be deaf to expediency. Let's get this done! Make the Democrats the ogres on this issue! Use the presidential power of the microphone. With your pushing, - and it will take pushing on the part of Congressional Republicans - get the President to push this effort. He is NOT a good speaker - so he should use every element of communication to make the point - slides, movies, mockups, other intelligent speakers on the same platform, press conferences, etc. Use the power! We have to get this done. People are stopping their businesses. It costs over a dollar a mile for farmers and large equipment operators to perform their jobs. We have got to get this done! Why are we not doing what is best for OUR country. That is the point. Do what is best for OUR country! The argument that we shouldn't harm our pristine natural environments but expecting other countries to do our heavy lifting for us - how can that be right!

Dave
You sound like a Lib.

It's okay for Hollyweird, super athletes and academia to live the good life, but the rest of us poor shmucks should be happy to have three meals a day and a roof over our heads.

Don't expect any joy in life. Don't expect to make your dreams come true. Just go to the movies for escapism and keep on supporting those actors and actresses so they can get their Oscars.

Have a boat!! Have a vacation home!! Eat steak!! Who the he-- do you think you are! If you have any money left over at the end of the day it should go to the government so they can win favor in foreign countries and buy votes.

I hate to state the obvious Dave, but if people get no more out of life than what is necessary to sustain life, we are no better off than the slaves of the Old South.

M Sederoff:
Wow...yours is a pretty narrow and unappealing view of what's good in life!

If i plug my electric
car in my outlet, is the cost of that cheaper than gas, and how is that electricity being generated?

Get the message out yourself
Tim,
While I agree with your premise that we need to increase domestic production, I place the blame for the country's lack of knowledge regarding your policies squarely on the Republican leadership. They are simply not getting the message out. I know it's an uphill climb to get the mainstream media to actually report your message, but you need to hammer the issue at every opportunity. For example, for every time I hear a Democrat say that the price of gas has doubled after eight years of George Bush, I need to hear a Republican say that the price of gas has doubled after only one-and-a-half years of democrat policies. It isn't happening.

To paraphrase a recent ad campaign, "It's our oil and we need it now." In fact, I think you need to start saying that as the media mantra for the Republican party this year. It's our oil and we need it now.

High gas prices
High gas prices will benefit the dems in November. Does anyone seriously think that democrats want to solve this problem when they can blame our suffering on republicans? I don't know of any other reason why the dems haven't instituted the 'common sense plan.'

Democrats WANT gas to be $6/gallon by November. Take THAT to the bank!

RUSH & SEAN

.....LIMBAUGH & HANNITY ...are not the problem ...they are preaching to the choir and get frustrated with RINO's like McCain and linguini spines in Congress who allow the Dems to set the agenda ....

.....I have an idea ...why don't you conduct a man in the street poll and ask the voters of your State why they voted for Jeniffer Granholm?...Do they really think that more and higher taxes are the solution to the States Problems? ....

.....Or ask the citizens of Detroit why they want Kwame Kilpatrick as their Mayor? ...ask the voters why Michigan is not a right-to-work State and why the unholy alliance between the UAW and the Democrats has brought GM and Ford to their knees and to the brink of bancruptcy? ...

.....Ask the voters why, after years of Democrats in the Legislature, Michigan has gone from a prosperous manufacturing State to one in steep economic decline? ...

.....Is it voter apathy or stupidity or both? ...or have the Republicans been unable to reach the voters with a message that they can believe in ...maybe this is this the source of Limbaugh and Hannity's frustration? .....COLOSSUS

KOOLHAND LUKE

.....Sure blame the producers instead of the politicians ...

.....How much has tax revenue increased with higher gas prices? ...And the government doesn't have to lift a finger to get that extra money ...

.....Do you have any idea how much the daily operating costs are on an oil rig? ...as much as $100,000 a day ...and if the well comes up dry ...it is millions down the drain ...sir, you are an uninformed, kool-aid drinking Liberal maroon .....COLOSSUS

WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS FORMAT?

.....IT IS BAD ENOUGH THAT THE SEQUENCE NUMBER CANNOT BE SEEN ...NOW WE CANNOT EVEN GET THE DATE AND TIME OF THE POST .....COLOSSUS

MICHIGAN JUDGE BLOCKS OIL DRILLING

.....Detroit Judge David Lawson overrules a U.S. Forest permit to protect a bird called the Kirtland Warbler ...this drilling operation had been held up in court since 2005 ...

.....Now let's see ...four years of Barack appointing judges and we will be rubbing sticks together to make fire .....COLOSSUS

BTW ...I stand corrected ...but still ...the government collects huge sums from the oil companies without having to lift a finger or risk a penny ...

MODMARK

.....I'm sorry but your reference to Shoreham went over my head ...is it an inside NY joke? ...

.....I am all in favor of power plants whatever powers them ...trouble is that the Democrats and their cohorts, the Soylent Green Eco-whackos seem to be against energy production of any kind ...

.....In Texas, our politicians blocked the construction of 12 power plants because they were coal fired ...pollution you know! ...so now we have cleaner air and the public screamed about high electric bills from using more expensive natural gas so the politicians put a lid on rates squeezing the gas utilities profits so that their stock fell 10% in a year ...if only we could get government out of the way most of our troubles would disappear .....COLOSSUS

@energyguy
You mentioned a problem with nuclear power being "The fact is that nuclear power plants are not only horribly toxic, as they create plutonium and other isotopes that last for thousands of years, but they are incredibly expensive."

I can't vouch for the prices, but from what I've read, the long-lasting isotopes are a good thing, not a bad one. The 'last for thousands of years' refers to the half-life, or decay rate, of the substance. The really dangerous isotopes are things like Cobalt-55(Halflife of 17.53 hrs according to webelements.com). Plutonium-239, the one formed by Uranium reactions, has a halflife of 24110 years (again according to webelements.com). That means that a pound of Pu-239 would take 24110 years to decay into half a pound, whereas the same pound of Co-55 would decay into half a pound within a day. Which one do you think is going to be emitting more radiation at any given point within that day?

ENERGY GUY

.....Refineries will show a profit when the cost of a barrel of oil goes down ...high oil costs cause refiners profit margins to get squeezed and they cannot make a reasonable profit ...

.....Last october Valero, an independent refiner, was selling for $73.13 a share ...since then it has dropped as low as $31.00 while the price for a gallon of gas has practically doubled ...I tried to explain this to O'Reilly but all he can see is greedy CEO's ...

.....High oil prices will not encourage refinery expansion ...just the opposite ...Low oil prices will encourage more refineries .....COLOSSUS

Teenager and car
The teenager mentioned in the first part of the article doesn't need the car. She can ride her bicycle to get to and from school, the mall, her friends' houses, etc. Its much healthier and besides, teens are riding bikes in countries where gas is $8/gal or more. Mom doesn't need to worry about handing over the keys to the car. My kids rode their bikes during the gas lines of the 70s.

MOD MARK

.....Thanks for the update on Shoreham ...now I can see why New Yorkers elect a dimwitted slime ball like Chuckyou Schumer to the Senate as their representative .....COLOSSUS

MOD MARK

.....Yes Texas leans conservative ...the power plants were blocked through the actions of Dallas Mayor Laura Miller a Democrat and a few Democrat congressman ...my point is that the folks who elected Miller were the cry babies who complained about high electric utility costs ...they got their "clean" air so shut up about paying for it ...

.....As for Michigan ...I believe in States Rights but if the citizens of the State won't allow development of their resources to protect a bird ...then they should also shut up and stop complaining about a depressed economy ...I have seen oil & gas fields in Louisiana on State nature reserves that are invisible to the public after development ...check the Marathon Oil website ...Libs want their cake and they want to eat it ...can't be done ...everything has a price ...those that don't want to pay have no right to complain .....COLOSSUS

IT'S ALL RELATIVE MARK

.....A conservative in New York could be a radical Liberal in Texas ...

.....That's what did GW in ...he used to work with Democrats in Texas because they were more conservative than Republicans in the North East ...he tried it in Washington and got raped .....

.....If New Yorkers don't want to use nuclear then they should not expect Texas to supply them with cheap heating oil ...maybe they can beg Chavez to bail them out with handouts ...

.....BTW even though Texas floats on oil and gas we also have Nuclear Power plants that are safe and reliable, we also run budget surpluses and do not have a State income Tax ...I'm glad we are not as sophisticated as Long Islanders ...do they vote for Chuckie Schumer? .....COLOSSUS

Right On Tim!!
Tim hits the nail on the head. Conservatives of all kinds - including conservative Democrats - need to come together and force the Democrats in Congress to pass needed legislation that Tim talks about. But I will go a step further.
We need a "Manhattan Project" style initiative to develop nuclear fusion power. For those in Rosa Linda, fusion is a process which combines light elements such as hydrogen into heavier elements, thereby releasing energy. Current nuclear technology uses fission, in which uranium atoms are split to get the energy release. HOWEVER, unlike fission, fusion leaves no radioactive waste behind, and potential fuel sources are almost unlimited - such as simple water.
Drilling for more oil is needed and important, but at the end of the day it's a short term fix. As human population grows, and undeveloped countries develop (read India, China, etc) demand will increase while supply will remain about stable, even if new sources are found. Wind and sun are not the answer.
How about it Tim? Rush? Sean? Newt?

Why talk radio is failing conservatives
Both Rush and Hannity are totally focused on fear-mongering Obama to the exclusion of everything else. Conservatives should give up on that race and redirect their efforts and money to Congressional races.

If I hear Hannity say one more time "Of course I'm going to vote for McCain but..." I'm going to lose it. As it is, I can't listen to him more than five minutes at a time. He is such a GOP shill these days. A true conservative would take the battle to the GOP and at least say "I haven't yet decided how I'm going to vote and may not until November." He should also focus on Congress which is where the real battles are going to be won or loss next year.

Vote 3rd party top of the ticket and vote conservative down ticket. Killing any mandate for Obama or McCain is a conservative victory in itself.

ModMark: exactly
There is one nuclear fusion project on-going, the France/Japan joint project, and they don't even plan to have a prototype plant ready for at least thirty years. It's very revealing and frustrating to see how so many supposed experts don't know what they are talking about.

Ender
As to how safe Plutonium is, I don't think Karen Silkwood would agree with you, if she were alive to make her statement. She was an American who was poisoned by Plutonium at her work, although she died in a mysterious car wreck.

baseballdoc
You are correct that refineries make a profit with high gasoline prices and low crude oil prices. But then, any business would do the same if they have low material costs, and high product prices.

Valero and a few others are not vertically integrated, that is, they have little or no crude oil of their own. They are at the mercy of the oil market for their raw materials, and the products market for their sales. Independent refiners have been in the same position for decades.

They made good profits about a year ago due to a combination of high product prices, partially caused by temporary refinery shutdowns, and relatively low crude oil prices. Since then crude oil price has increased substantially.

Invisible SOS
If Rush understood that it is inflation that is causing gas prices to spiral, I am sure he would help us, but I don't think he understands.

Don't count on Sean Hannity for anything.

INDEPENDENCE PARTY MEMBER
Modern Democrat Liberals fancy themselves as “Progressives” with or without reference to the I.W.W Wobbles of the 1930’s. The only distinction between a Liberal and a Progressive is that the Liberal prefers to just jump directly off the cliff while the Progressive wants to fly off by Pogo-Stick. This is an apparent example of the current political landscape.
The ever creative Democrats have a broadband allegiance spanning Labor Front Blue Collar working Americans stretched to the intellectual college formulated Anti-War Leftist “Progressives” while the Republicans Party stands naked shone detached from its Conservative mantle. There is an opportunity here to expand identity and possible detach from the stagnant Republican Party hierarchy by forming the “Independence Party.” The manifesto measurement scale of the Independence Party would be determined by the increase or decrease in independence; ergo, would exploring for domestic petroleum based energy products increase or decrease our nation’s independence; or, having the government provide universal health insurance coverage will increase or decrease personal independence and freedom; or, to allow for the public licensing of “Marriage” by two people of the same sex will increase or decrease independence and responsibility as a society; or, would a flat-tax or value-added tax (VAT) scheme be a more “Independence” means to maintain government solvency and operations. By definition if the program or proposition increases independence it should be accepted, if it decreases independence it should fail.

JUNIOR'S WHEELS
There could be a lift here, I wrote a skit with Dadbird and Junior last week. Junior had a hot date with Sally and wanted the family wheels. "No Problem Son, just 20 dollars to top off the tank"

Hamburger French Fries and a Coke with only five gallons of gas probably get just a peck on the cheek from Sally.

No Silver Bullet
Oil, energy, gasoline, and related topics have no silver bullet to quickly bring prices down.

Except for one. As I have posted on this thread and others on TH recently, conservation is effective and immediate.

This is because, even though we in the U.S. have a Strategic Petroleum Reserve, it is better policy to keep that for a true emergency in the supply of oil.

Refineries in the U.S. generally keep as little oil in the refinery as prudent, in order to minimize their costs for working capital. Numbers I saw recently show there is about 10 days of supply in a typical refinery. This means that it is very difficult to quickly increase the amount of gasoline and other products.

An increase in the supply of oil, such that various sellers compete and therefore drive down the price, is very difficult at this time. It certainly will not happen quickly.

All this talk about opening the outer continental shelf, Federal lands, ANWR, and other places that are currently off-limits to drilling can do nothing in the near-term to increase oil supply.

That is why I believe that high prices are good. We finally have the financial incentive, each one of us who buys gasoline or diesel fuel, to make a difference. We each can make a difference by selling or trading in a vehicle that gets low miles per gallon, and purchase one that gets much higher miles per gallon. These include hybrids, plug-in hybrids, electric vehicles, and natural gas vehicles.

It is also time to convert existing vehicles to plug-in hybrids, using existing aftermarket technology.

I propose a Federal rebate to any consumers who purchase such a vehicle, or who convert a vehicle with an aftermarket system.

We have the power to make a difference, now.

I am Roger E. Sowell, energy attorney and former refinery process engineer, with a BS in chemical engineering. My website is http://www.resowell-law.com.

Rising gas prices
Dear Mr. Sowell,

How are people supposed to be able to afford these brand new cars? I suppose the employers are going to raise everyone's wages? We cannot afford to buy a new car. We can only buy old ones and their mileage is not so good. We can't afford to drive, either. So how is this good for us? We would be happy not to have to drive anywhere. I suppose you are going to lower the cost of real estate for poorer people? What about the rising taxes, especially on the state level. The assessment jumped from 3.95 % to 4.35 % last year in October at the governor's behest.
Your reply betrays a total lack of understanding of the low income which ordinary people have.
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