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Thursday, June 04, 2009
Thomas Sowell :: Townhall.com Columnist
"Out of Context": Part III
by Thomas Sowell
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As part of the biographical preoccupation with Judge Sonia Sotomayor's past, the New York Times of May 31st had a feature story on the various New York housing projects in which she and other well-known people grew up-- including Whoopi Goldberg, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Thelonious Monk and Mike Tyson.

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There was a map of New York City and dots pin-pointing the location of the project in which each celebrity grew up. As an old New Yorker, I was struck by the fact that not one of the 20 celebrities shown grew up in a housing project in Harlem!

The housing projects in which they grew up were different in another and more fundamental way. As the New York Times put it: "These were not the projects of idle, stinky elevators, of gang-controlled stairwells where drug deals go down." In other words, these were public housing projects of an earlier era, when such places were very different from what we associate with the words "housing project" today.

Just the reference to unlocked doors on the apartments there, so that children could more easily visit playmates in nearby apartments on Saturday mornings to watch television, creates an image that must seem like something out of another world to those familiar only with the housing projects of today.

There were standards for getting into the projects of those days and, if you didn't live up to those standards, they put you out. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar was quoted as saying, "When kids played on the grass, their parent would get a warning." That seems almost quaint when you think of what has gone on in the housing projects of a later era.

Since there has been so much talk of putting some of Sonia Sotomayor's inflammatory words "in context," perhaps we should put her personal life in context, if the media insist on making her personal life a factor in her nomination to the Supreme Court. While she grew up in a public housing project, the words "housing project" in that era did not mean anything like the housing projects of today.

A relative of mine lived in one of the housing projects back then-- and we were proud of him, as well as glad for him, because such places were for upright citizens in those days-- working class people with steady jobs and good behavior. Clever intellectuals had not yet taught us to be "non-judgmental" about misbehavior or to make excuses for vandalism and crime.

While Sonia Sotomayor was not born with a silver spoon in her mouth, let's not make her someone who rose from such depths as those conjured up by the words "housing projects" today. It is bad enough that biographical considerations carry such weight in considerations of nominees for the Supreme Court. But, if biography must be elaborated, let it at least be done "in context."

It has always made me a little uneasy when generous well-wishers have discussed my educational background as if it was something almost miraculous that I came out of the schools in Harlem and went on to Ivy League institutions. But any number of other people did exactly the same thing.

The Harlem schools of that era were no more like the Harlem schools of today than the housing projects of that era were like today's housing projects. They had classes grouped by ability and, if you were serious about getting a good education, you could get into one of the classes for kids who were serious and receive an education that would prepare you to go on in life.

There is a lot to ponder about why both the schools and the housing projects degenerated so much after the bright ideas of the 1960s intelligentsia spread throughout society, leaving social havoc in their wake.

Too many people who rose to where they are today because of a foundation of traditional values have become enthralled by the very different ideas prevalent in the elite intellectual circles to which they moved. Judge Sotomayor seems to be one of those, with her ideas about race and the policy-making role of judges.

It is bad enough that so many of those "advanced" ideas have undermined for others the foundation that Sonia Sotomayor had as she grew up, despite being raised in a home with a modest income. There is no need to let her use the Supreme Court to destroy more of those traditional American values.

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Doctor Sowell
I am of the same time period as you. I lived in a six apartment building in Boston. It was in a neighborhood of mostly three family apartment buildings. At one point, my brother, after he got married lived close by, in a "housing project" for years.
Most families were low to low middle income families. Most parents had not completed high scholl, but pushed us to make sure that we did. I do not (and most certainly DID not), feel deprived in any way. To the contrary,I feel I had a most wonderful childhood.
I am of Italian heritage and I do not hold with any allowances for any wrongdoing for ethnic, religious or economic reasons. I most certainly, would never use it in judging civil or criminal matters were I a judge. It does not require a Doctorate of Law to understand most matters. A large dose of common sense and fairness is most important. I should rather be judged by a group that dealt in fairness than any other person regardless of their pedigree or environmental upbringing.

As to the Ricci decision, I see prejudice on Sotomayor's part and a lack of fairness.

the show good times
Showed that even into the mid 1970s housing projects were not that bad. The Evans family in that show were happy to be living in public housing -- the implication was that there was worse housing nearby and that if a problem developed they could get "kicked out" of the public housing. There was implication that Alderman Davis (a character who resembled a black Richard Nixon) used his political influence to help people get into that housing. I have known people who lived in public housing (I know somebody who does right now) -- it is not the worst of all housing. A lot of section 8 housing is worse. Certainly, there are some bad public housing projects -- but Dr. Sowell is correct. Back when many of them were brand new in the 1960s, they were middle class and overall often pretty good places to live in the context of certain geographic areas.

Everything . . .Everything
During George W. Bush's years in office I often found myself frustrated by the way the mainstream media and the far-left blogs never gave the man a break. He was wrong, it seemed about just two things--everything he said and everything he did. It was blatantly unfair, foolishly consistent.

Now Barack Obama is President, and I find myself feeling the same way about his words (vague, abstract, general and emotion-laden) and his deeds (socialistic through and through, likely to reduce everyone's freedom, income and access to quality health care) that Mr. Bush's enemies seemed to feel about him. I cannot recall feeling this way about any other sitting president, and my memories go back to Truman.

I keep asking myself, am i being unfair? Or is this President exactly what I feared he would be--a product of racist and socialist mentors and of Chicago politics? I grew up near Chicago, where the bloated gangster Richard Daley the elder held sway year after dismal year, and I was continually made aware through the newspapers that corruption in every form ruled that city for which special provisions were abundant in the Illinois constitution.

The news I see now about ACORN, about the banks, about GM, and about foreign policy all tends to confirm my fear that the corruption has broken its bounds and added itself to the corruption already occurring in Washington.



Yes thank you
I suspected as much from the videos I have been able to view of the "olden days".
In fact I I've noticed a few changes for the worse myself.
Those 68'ers really screwed us all. What a shame.
I believe it is also a huge communist influence, I've read Bella Dodd's book amongst others.
Now I see the biggest fattest liars ever running the government - those 68'ers as far as I'm concerned.
We need about 500 McCarthy's now, and even with that it's likely too late.
No, I'm not one who buys it's never too late - that's just another tired stupid cleche' the idiot political movements turn into their own intelligentsia crap nowadays.
I am celebrating tillers' execution, that was absolutely wonderful, and small things like that are the only victories I will be enjoying, I'm certain.
The slide into the pit is well underway and noone is stopping it, it is in fact accellerrating.
Good luck to those on the right side and better luck to those delivering the enjoyable lessons.
How about we do the right thing as a nation now and EXECUTE within the week the rest of the Gitmo detainees. Gosh, that would be far too effective wouldn't it. It would show a spine and a seriousness that just is not around except in rare instances like in tiller's church.
We're stuck with the brit indonesian kenyan (american?) - don't even know if the latter is true, but the other three are.
What a bad joke we have become.
My applause to the person who got rid of tiller, and too his family that was your lucky day as well - it must have really eased your horrifying burden a great deal, congratulations.

Mr. Sowell, again a smashing success...
I have to identify with your examples. Lest we not forget, one doesn't have to come from the inner city to know poverty, or disadvantage. I came from Appalachia, where schools received less money than any metropolis school, and the people didn't ask for it. It was a "pull yourself up by the bootstraps" mentality, and I'm proud to say, most of us have. Lord willing and the creek don't rise, you can work through college, and appreciate/be thankful for the education. Someday, maybe, if you're real lucky...you can log nearly 100 combat hours over Iraq in an F-15C...then later become a test pilot on the mighty twin tailed chariot of death...the F-22. One can only dream...unless the culture promotes said work ethic.

Housing Projects
Hard to believe such housing projects ever existed.
By the way, Raptor Driver, its DOCTOR Sowell.

The Candidate and Adversity
For centuries justice was portrayed as blind. The symbolisn was that the law only would be applied. Now Sotomayor clearly indicates her beliefs that the court should make decisions based not on law but rather the personal beliefs and background of the judges. Furthermore judges should not be selected by their qualifications but how much adversity they have over come according to the lady's supporters. Thurgood Marshall, the first African-American justice, was denied admission to the University of Maryland Law School because of his race. In the many cases he handled, he sometimes had to go south. It was very dangerous. He traveled under cover of night and stayed at the homes of courageous African-Americans. Yet no one said that he should become a justice because of the adversity he overcame or his race. Incidentally, I believe the man argued about 23 cases before the Supreme Court in his career losing only two.

An Administration in the Sandbox
Things really seem to be going downhill this week. Both the President and a Suprme Cpurt pick are offering up; their childhood experiences as qualifications for their jobs. Tune in and expect one of them to reply goo goo in a news conference.

Dr Sowell keep shining your light

Your series has been excellent.

Health and Happiness to you Sir!

The 'Hope' and 'Change' of Barack Obama

Obama's Sacrifice for the Common Good Housing
By Binyamin Appelbaum
Globe Staff / June 27, 2008

CHICAGO - "The squat brick buildings of Grove Parc Plaza, in a dense neighborhood that Barack Obama represented for eight years as a state senator, hold 504 apartments subsidized by the federal government for people who can't afford to live anywhere else.

But it's not safe to live here.

About 99 of the units are vacant, many rendered uninhabitable by unfixed problems, such as collapsed roofs and fire damage.

Mice scamper through the halls. Battered mailboxes hang open.

Sewage backs up into kitchen sinks.

In 2006, federal inspectors graded the condition of the complex an 11 on a 100-point scale - a score so bad the buildings now face demolition.

Grove Parc has become a symbol for some in Chicago of the broader failures of giving public subsidies to private companies to build and manage affordable housing - an approach strongly backed by Obama as the best replacement for public housing."
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This is Obama's 'Hope and Change' in affordable housing.

mrmilo
I agree with 99% of what you've said, however, I offer that the "fairness" has nothing-what-so-ever to do with the law. What the law dispenses is JUSTICE not fairness. Something can be just but unfair, or vice versa, fair but unjust. Life is not fair and we can not promise "fair" outcomes to every decision but we can promise to provide justice.

Sotomayor
Irrespective of her background and good genes, she joined La Raza. Does that not automatically make her a proponent of advocating policies based on consideration of race?

La Raza

"The Race"

Hispanics are not a race any more than mulattos are.

Thank you good Doctor Sowell
Well said Sir, well said.


Real facts inform & debunk LIberal myths
Dr. Sowell:

Thanks so much! Real facts inform & debunk liberal myths! Liberals how does it feel? That is, to be shown to by myth makers, or as I prefer "liars"! Just as you lie about history in our textbooks!

Mike Tyson?
Are they suggesting that a guy whose only saleable skill was beating people senseless, and who has had numerous scrapes with the law, and who frittered away a 200 million dollar fortune is to be held up as a role model?

Mike Tyson?!?
Doug, I was thinking the exact same thing :>)

Garbage in, garbage out
Sotomayor is nothing more that a product of an ultra liberal education establishment. It is little wonder our young people exposed to these vile cesspools of so called higher education turn out to be the far left. After all, that is what they are taught fron kindergarden on. Why should anyone be surprised? ARROW.

Sowell
Did you apologize for your lie yesterday about Sotomayor's Firemen ruling?

Hal Donahue
What "lie" did Dr. Sowell tell about the Ricci ruling? From what I read all Dr. Sowell did was point out that Sotomayor and her colleagues dismissed the Ricci complaint out of hand...which she did! There was no attempt to explain why the panel dismissed the appeal and did not even address the constitutional issues involved; that is the reason a fellow jurist on the appeals court wanted it reopened, and that is the reason the SCOTUS is hearing the case now.

I guess in liberal-land telling an "inconvenient truth" about a liberal equates to a "lie". No lies from Dr. Sowell, just a tough truth the liberals don't have to stomach to face.

Comparison
Sotomayor's upbringing was wonderful compared to millions of us, including myself. Yes, I'm white, but I've had a much harder life than anyone can imagine, and surprise--I'm not the daughter of immigrants but a descendant of 17th century colonists and Native Americans.

But she's sooooo special that she can be a bigot and get away with it. Her actions speak more of her misplaced anger than words can ever say. She doesn't want equality; she wants superiority.

Justice is depicted as wearing a blindfold. Ms
Sotomayor needs a muzzle. She's a disgrace.

Hal Donahue
Did you apologize for being a left-wing phony? Did you apologize for being a producer of carbon dioxide and a user of perfectly good oxygen?

Bork Sotomayor
Give her the same treatment as Judge Bork and Clarence Thomas.

And Reps. should ignore threats and scoldings from King Elect O and his cronies. They are not royalty and soon many will likely be not in office.

Unemployment rises apace, the GM takeover will be an inflationary sink hole for years, and even my *lib* friends in the NEA are disturbed at the admin.'s cavalier attitude toward wrecking pension investments by dissing GM and Chrysler bond holders.

Soon, the 70s-style Carter inflation will hit and even wealthy Hollywood types will be spending $5 for a loaf of bread and $10 for gas. Then that will be the end of this charade.

tedmug
Hal is no left wing phony, he is a defender of the weak and defenseless, except for the unborn of course, I know cause he told me so yesterday right after he told me that a baby in the womb was a zygote LOL.

RE: Stuck on Stupid
"Did you apologize for your lie yesterday about Sotomayor's Firemen ruling?"

As I carefully explained to you last night - Prof. Sowell has no reason to appologize.

First, only an agent provocateur would classify a well thought out and documented logical conclusion to be a lie.

Second, if not because Senorita Sotomayor is a "Diversity Queen," what else could possibly explain her illogical (and illegal) decision in Ricci that violates Federal Law, the Constitution, and Supreme Court precedence?

Re: Hysterical Historians
"Soon, the 70s-style Carter inflation will hit and even wealthy Hollywood types will be spending $5 for a loaf of bread and $10 for gas."

"let them eat cake!" Michelle Obama

Its all about the stupids
The stupids in the US.

Congress, president, they want to bring the US down to the level of the mentally lazy. Find ways to help the mentally lazy, find ways to make the producers in the US pay for the mentally lazy.

Didn't uncle token say that there was "the soft bigotry of low expectations" that needed to be reversed in the US? Apparently another lie, as the govement now wants a bunch of lazy nonthinkers to tap into for countless more tax dollars.

RGeek-Heye58-LC-Others
Rosa Rotorooter is Racist AND Sexist:
http://www.salon.com/opinion/walsh/index.html


Agreement
This article is right on! I grew up in the thirties and forties in a housing project in Detroit. I credit that experience with my life's success, first in my family to graduate from college (in Detroit).
People looked out for each other and there was no crime. Most of the men and some of the women in the project built automobiles for a living, sharing rides since cars were sparse (wartime).
I must have had fifty friends, fellow baseball, football and hockey players depending on the season. We took on jobs early in life - newspaper routes, bagging groceries or mopping floors in the local drug store.
Do these facts make me more qualified for the Supreme Court than others? I don't think so!

Tyson et. al.
Context! Dr. Sowell was definitely not holding up Tyson (or Goldberg or the others) as any sort of role model--only as celebrities, and only to point out the nature of the housing projects in which they grew up.

There are few things easier or more potentially deceptive than to take someone's words out of context. In Judge Sotomayor's case, as many have pointed out, the really disturbing material comes from the context itself--the actual way she has applied her belief that courts should be makers of policy.

We all need to hope that the Current Occupant of the WH does not get the opportunity to replace Scalia, Thomas, Alito, or Roberts. As long as only libs are replaced by other libs, we have a chance for our system of checks and balances to continue to function.

Oldprof
You forgot one. The victories that have been achieved on the Supreme Court as of late have rested on the vote of Justice Kennedy. If he is replaced, it will become a 5-4 leftist court.

Miranda
This is just a small point of information, but in the university where I taught in the Midwest in the 1960's, it was actually considered bad form for any of us faculty members to address each other as Doctor. Either the generic Mister or Ms (the latter just coming into use) was considered preferable in the leveling atmosphere of that bygone era. I think the practice remains in force at many universities.

Alabama Roadrunner
May Kennedy live long and prosper! Thank you. I haven't had my second cup of coffee yet.

I just have one thing to add
Sotomayor is a truly homely woman.

I know that's very small of me, but there you have it.

Re: Roots
"Context! Dr. Sowell was definitely not holding up Tyson (or Goldberg or the others) as any sort of role model--only as celebrities, and only to point out the nature of the housing projects in which they grew up."

Sowell was born in North Carolina, in 1930, where his encounters with Caucasians were so limited he didn't believe that "yellow" was a hair color. He moved to Harlem, New York City with his mother's sister (whom he believed was his mother); his father had died before he was born. Sowell went to Stuyvesant High School, but dropped out at 17 because of financial difficulties and a deteriorating home environment. He worked at various jobs to support himself, including in a machine shop and as a delivery man for Western Union. He applied to enter the Civil Service and was eventually accepted, moving to Washington DC. He was drafted in 1951, during the Korean War, and assigned to the US Marine Corps, where, due to prior experience, he worked in a photography unit.

After his discharge, Sowell passed the GED examination and enrolled at Howard University. He transferred to Harvard University, where he graduated magna cumlaude with a Bachelor of Arts degree in Economics in 1958. He received a Master of Arts in Economics from Columbia University in 1959, and a Doctor of Philosophy in Economics from the University of Chicago.

He has taught Economics at Howard University, Cornell University, Brandeis University, and UCLA. Since 1980 he has been a Senior Fellow of the Hoover Institution at Stanford University, where he holds a fellowship named after Rose and Milton Friedman.

Now there is a life story that both discipline and courage.

KIM
That being the case, at least she won't make the other woman on the SCOTUS feel too uncomfortable!

But I'm sure many libs consider her truly hot. Love is blind.

Indeed, J.A., and Clarence Thomas...
...had a similar and challenging life. Quite a life experience, one might say. But to the lefty lib "uber" hypocrites, he is an "oreo". He's an uppity black conservative no different than an evil "white male" whose decisions are far inferior to those of a "wise Latina woman."

"God Dam* America." "La Raza sobre todo."[The Race "Uber Alles."]

Context that matters
The only changes in context that really matter are that, at the time she made her egregious statements, she was not a nominee for the Supreme Court--now she is. As the old saying goes: Character determines how you act when you think no one is looking. We know all we need to know about Sotomayor.

Sowells Part#3: NO Context...
I have been reading Mr. Sowells denigrative rant on Judge Sotomayor and the most I can get out of it is that he thinks he thinks her personal history isnt atypical, being overplayed by the media and that he thinks that she is a racist against white males because of one statement that may or maynot have been taken out of context from a larger speech she gave in the past.

What is odd is that repubs/cons always usuallly pride themselves in being unemotional, factual and about examing ones past record. That is
certainly the case this time as "EMOTIONAL" Repubs/Cons have expressed "OUTRAGE" of this
nomination to the USSC by Prez Obama.

Repub/Con Leaders Gingrich and Limbaugh have called Judge Sotomayor a outright "racist"
because of her comment and several th columist
such as Mr. Sowell have become emotionally upset about it. Mr. Sowell haS devoted three days woth of colums to the subject for gods sake.. The irony here is that we have a black man defending white male supremecy, privelege, preferential treatment and discriminatory practices against minorities and women.

I have read today that top repubs such as Sen. Jeff Sessions have advised the repub/cons pundits to tone down the rhetoric for fear of alienating hispanics and women which is a big problem for the gop in the first place and focus on Judge Sotmayors record on the bench.

The way I see it either way the "emotional" repubs/cons are going to lose this argument and we will have the first hispanic on the USSC to full acclaim except the minority.

left angle
Go back and look at what your liberal darlings have said in the past about hispanic and black peoplethatwere being appointed to judgeships.

Wish Dr. Sowell was being considered!
Thanks again for a good dose of wisdom and common sense.
I highly respect you and your writings.

I have difficulty telling Sotomayor and Napolitano apart when they are pictured on TV. Like all of Obama's choices that are cut from the same cloth. Mentally speaking.

Reassuring to know that Whoopi Goldberg was reared in a home and not the swamps. As in the Okefenokee or the Everglades. Puzzling as to why she can not behave more like regular people.
One can be funny and not be so crass.

In reading these comments can tell I am not the only one very upset that my ancestors have fought long and hard for a marvelous place to live. Now it is all being crushed. Our very own elected officials can not wait to see us suffer and die off.

What has Obama promised the Saudi King today???

Most of the youth do not know what is happening
or what they are losing. Thanks to our illustrious education system. Along with the lack of Civics Classes. Consider almost anyone 35 and under apolitical. Unless they were taught by their parents to appreciate the US Constitution.

Can tell most of the post-ers are mad really mad.
Really trained fighting men want to do something. To right this wrong that is being imposed upon our Nation. I have the same feelings. Any suggestions. Reading the articles on TH helps. However I feel like I could do more.

God save the USA!


Re: Rocky Road
"Mike Tyson? Are they suggesting that a guy whose only saleable skill was beating people senseless, and who has had numerous scrapes with the law, and who frittered away a 200 million dollar fortune is to be held up as a role model?"

Throughout his childhood, Mike Tyson lived in and around high-crime neighborhoods. He was repeatedly caught committing petty crimes and fighting those who ridiculed his high-pitched voice and lisp. By the age of 13, he had been arrested 38 times. He ended up at the Tryon School for Boys in Johnstown, New York. It was at the school that Tyson's emerging boxing ability was discovered by Deshawn Stewart, a juvenile detention center counselor and former boxer. Stewart considered Tyson to be an outstanding fighter and trained him for a few months before introducing him to Cus D'Amato.

Cus D'Amato treated Tyson like a son and removed from reform school. He was 16 when his mother died leaving Tyson in the care of D'Amato, who would become his legal guardian.

D'Amato managed Tyson throughtout his remarkable amateur career where he Gold Medals in both the Junior and Los Angeles Olympics. D'Amato continued manage and mentor Tyson into his professional, and even though he was a "high maintenance" young-man, D'Amato managed to keep the young Tyson out of trouble and guide to the World Championship.

Tyson's personal problems began in the 1980s after KOing Mike Spinksin 91 sec. of the 1st of his title defense. It was about then that Tyson left his alter-father figure, Cus D'Amato, and went with Don King lured by promises big money and a wild life stype. His marriage ended in divorce and Tyson's life spun out of control. Had stayed with D'Amato, I believe Mike Tyson would have been a much different story.

Vision of the Annointed
I can go back with Dr. Sowell to Milton Friedmam's "Free to Chose" book and TV series. But, not until I read "The Vision of the Annointed" did I come to realize how providing context changes the story and there's no one better at getting to the truth through context than Tom Sowell.

Re: Facts are dangerous things
" have been reading Mr. Sowells denigrative rant on Judge Sotomayor and the most I can get out of it is that he thinks he thinks her personal history isnt atypical, being overplayed by the media and that he thinks that she is a racist against white males because of one statement that may or maynot have been taken out of context from a larger speech she gave in the past."

Once more the left shows its great distaint for the facts and logic, preferring "empathy" and emotion to reach their illogical conclusions based on insufficient data.

LeftAngle
You are right on! A lifetime appointment to the highest court is not something that should be discussed in depth. For Sowell to spend three days on something of such little importance shows what a little man he must be.

It is essential that we keep facts, especially facts from both sides of the political spectrum, from getting out to the public. It is essential that anyone on the right keep their mouth shut in light of this trivial matter. Come on, it's not like she is being appointed Asst. Head Ranger at Yellowstone.

Cuban Pete
Kudos to you for reminding us all of Clarence Thomas's struggles. Every open-minded person should read his book and contemplate his life.

The late, lamented popular philosopher Sydney J. Harris wrote many years ago on the subject of struggle, suggesting that it can be crippling as well as strengthening:??"Men who have to struggle ferociously from an early age acquire weaknesses as well as strengths; they tend to become harsh, rigid, contemptuous of any values but conflict and victory, and incapable of adjusting to changing times and conditions. Since such men tend to rise to the top, they generally lead their countries into inappropriate combat, like a Napoleon or a Hitler.??"

"Everyone is aware of the perils of too much ease, but it is not as clear at first that struggle itself can be damaging if the handicap is so great that a man must sacrifice a large part of his personality in order to make King of the Hill. This is why so many public “successes” are private failures."??

The Current Occupant's nominee presumably does not have the potential to be a Napoleon or a Hitler, but she may well have an inappropriate loyalty to ideas inimical to our freedom.


RE: Stuck on Stupid
"Context that matters
The only changes in context that really matter are that, at the time she made her egregious statements, she was not a nominee for the Supreme Court--now she is. As the old saying goes: Character determines how you act when you think no one is looking. We know all we need to know about Sotomayor."

Senorita Sotomayor made one of her most aggregious "slips of the brain" in a conference where she admitted she KNEW she was being video and STILL admitted that she believe that it was judges and the courts are the makers of policy, and not the elected legislative and executive branch of government. In otherwords, she believes that instead of a Republic - "a government of laws" the United States is "a government of men (and brainy hispanic woman." This was only 4 years ago, and she was speaking as an Appeals Court Judge.

As Forrest Gump's Mom, (a truly smart woman" says: "Stupid is as stupid does!"

punctuation
For some inexplicable-to-me reason several ?? marks got added to my last post by the computers. Oh, well, maybe the readers will pay closer attention because of them.

MS Word always seems to me to be a strange combination of mother hen and village idiot.

bporter
Wonderful irony! Thank you!

No action a President takes is likely to have consequences more far-reaching than in appointments to the SCOTUS, especially since the privileged lives of these justices tend to promote longevity.

I knew it was only a matter of time
...before some liberal mentioned the first Hispanic on the Supreme Court, bla, bla, bla.

From Left Angle:
"...The way I see it either way the "emotional" repubs/cons are going to lose this argument and we will have the first hispanic on the USSC to full acclaim except the minority."

Miguel Estrada was an Hispanic nominee to the Supreme Court. Now read that again 500 times until it has a chance to absorb into the grey matter.

Apparently Miguel did not have a compelling life story, and apparently the opportunity for the 1st Hispanic SC Justice was just not that big a deal just 6 years ago, as Mr. Estrada had to throw in the towel in the face of the unflinching Democrat filibuster.

But we know that just isn't true don't we??? Democrats believe that they have some legal claim to all minorities, and if these minorities don't tow the liberal line, they will be cast aside and villified just as anyone else...it's the only time liberals are blind to race.

Re: Hysterical Historians
"I have read today that top repubs such as Sen. Jeff Sessions have advised the repub/cons pundits to tone down the rhetoric for fear of alienating hispanics and women which is a big problem for the gop in the first place and focus on Judge Sotmayors record on the bench."

Haven't you figured it out yet? "Top Republicans" are meaningless. Unlike you lemmings of the left who anxiously await your "marching orders" from your "fearless leaders" - Alhaji Hussein Obama, George Soros, and MoveOn - we "think for yourself" type know when someone is "peeing on our boots and trying to convince us its raining."

As far as "ton(ing) down the rhetoric" - you must be too young to remember the Robert Bork and the Clarence Thomas confirmation hearings. I watched it "gravel to gravel" on C-SPAN, which was rather new at the time. You have no idea what the term "rhetoric" or character assassination and ad hominem means if you haven't seen the Democrats dump Senatorial decorum in order take out their "long knives" to get their "pounds of flesh" from great GOP Court Nominees. It can really be ugly, just you and the rest of the left!

kyle
Since I have belittled Democrats this week for failing to read correctly when columnists have made the distinction, I feel I must respond to you, to be fair.

Estrada was not a nominee for the Supreme Court. He was a nominee for the US Court of Appeals. It is clear that he was filibustered because the eventual goal was to make him a nominee for the Supreme Court. The Democrat's filibuster was preemptive.

When columnists on this site write about the Democrats working to prevent Estrada from being on the Supreme Court, they are referring to the actual filibuster of his Court of Appeals appointment, which in turn prevented him from being a suitable nominee for the Supreme Court.

bporter: repubs ARE being emotional
thats just the point. this article by mr.sowell, statements by repub leaders gingrich and limbaugh are purely "emotional" reactions to a statement they consider to be "racist" by
Judge Sotomayor. that statement so bothered the repub/cons punditry so much that they have expressed "outraged" that she is still being considered for the USSC.

The Coulters and Malkins are "disturbed" that the so-called msm is supposedly drawing inspirational inference to her ethnic background and escape from poverty.
They see a "double standard" and it "angers" them.

Yeah mr b. porter, with repubs/cons it has nothing to do with "feelings". you are all logical like Mr. Spock...sure youre right lmao

John Acton
Bit of a loose cannon aren't you, taking out friend and foe?

My point was that Sotomayor said what she said when she though it didn't matter and that she could get away with it. Now that the spotlight is on her and she is being coached, if not waterboarded, by the Obama White House, she is going to do everything she can to distance herself from her previous remarks. That is the true change in context.

And if, in fact, you were referring to me as stupid, try "gavel to gavel," rather than "gravel to gravel."

Logic?
Would the logic you claim is not being used by Republicans be the same logic that Harry Reid uses when he refers to Sotomayor as the "Whole Package" while virtually bragging that he hasn't read a single one of her opinions?

Shouldn't the "whole package" when confirming a justice to the Highest Court be limited to their judicial opinions? Why should anything other than that even be an issue? What is the "Whole Package" that Reid is referring to if it doesn't include her judicial opinions?

Not only is she a racist, but
she is a sexist too:

Here’s what she said in the 1994 speech:
“Justice O’Connor has often been cited as saying that “a wise old man and a wise old woman reach the same conclusion in dueling cases. I am not so sure Justice O’Connor is the author of that line since Professor Resnik attributes the line to Supreme Court Justice Coyle. I am not so sure that I agree with the statement. First, if Prof. Martha Minnow is correct, there can never be a universal definition of ‘wise.’ Second, I would hope that a wise woman with the richness of her experience would, more often than not, reach a better conclusion.” source: http://hotair.com/archives/2009/06/03/oh-my-sotomayor-made -nearly-identical-wise-latina-comment-in-1994-too/

So now she thinks she is superior to men and superior to white men.

bporter.....
I left that little opening in there hoping for some liberal to jump on it.

Yes Mr. Estrada was nominated to the Federal Circuit rather than the SC. AND, it's the only time EVER that a successful denial was launched for a nominee to a lesser court.

The point being, that his heritage and rich life experience mattered not due to the fact that he was not also a liberal.

Re: I generally hit what I aim at
"Bit of a loose cannon aren't you, taking out friend and foe?"

My aim isn't THAT BAD! I had my sights set on Chica Sotomayor and not anyone posting on this thread, even those Left-Wingnuts!

My reference is that when ones starts ranking "Sonia's Greatest Hits" her 2005 quote before an audience and on video-tape, has to be the real "disqualifier." Her "wise Latina Women" orgasm was too confusing to be damning, as she could easily pledge that she was comparing "dumb white men" to "wise Latina Women."

However, getting the authorities and duties of the Judicial Branch, as plainly set forth in Article III of our Constitution, so "mess-up" indicates that she hasn't even read the document, or worse, she is just ignoring it. Take your pick - either way she should never be confirmed to the Supremes and she may even qualify for removal from her present Federal Judgeship, considering that her professed beliefs are contrary to her oath of office and rise to a lack of "good Behaviour" on her part.

John Action: there is a old saying
"Politics and War are NOT for the Faint of Heart.

think for yourself types? you have got to be kidding. once the rnc approved talking points are rendered EVERY republican/conservatives repeats the ad infinitum like the programmed robots they are..lmao

bpoprter: a question
what are the constitutional requirements for a ussc judge?

Sotomayor's background includes features
similar to those of Sowell. Each has had an "elite" education. She has made remarks in settings related to her position as a jurist, but has not made such remarks from the bench.

She, like at least some bright people, likely has a sense of humor. I believe the remarks causing such consternation amongst those who love Limbaugh, Gingrich and Sowell probably were spoken in jest. If conservatives claim any sense of humor, now could be a time to show it.


Re: First casualty of war is the truth
"Politics and War are NOT for the Faint of Heart."

The problem that I illustrated in my post is that only one of the major political parties know that politics is really war, and are willing to execute it as same - and that is the Democrat. And as I suggested, it also what is wrong with the GOP. Perhaps they are simply too "empathic" to take no prisoners.

"War is merely a continuation of politics ..." Carl von Clausewitz

"think for yourself types? you have got to be kidding. once the rnc approved talking points are rendered EVERY republican/conservatives repeats the ad infinitum like the programmed robots they are..lmao"

Really, you twit? I suppose Sessions and other so-called GOP leaders didn't get the Rush's memo.

Of course, you have mistaken the GOP/Right with the Democrat/Left, to wit:

"Politico reported that Emanuel has a daily phone conference call with ABC's George Stephanopoulos, and CNN's James Carville and Paul Begala. With Rush Limbaugh's raucous CPAC address, as he termed it his "first address to the nation," we can see at least one example of what is likely an attack strategy resulting from the Emanuel phone session with a rush to bash Rush the day after the appearance."

"In your heart you know we're right!"

PS: Uncontrolled laughter for no good reason is a sure sign of insanity.

John Acton...do the names
Lee Atwater, Roger Ailes, R. Mellon Sciafe or Karl Rove ring a bell for you? I am sure you would qualify these as right wing non-confrontational "faint of heart" types eh?

Ever heard of the "right wing echo chamber"

the gop and far right have a long history of mud slinging, character assasination, propaganda dissemination and dirty politics ..if in fact dems/libs have gotten better at it, that comes from observing gop/cons, adopting and using their OWN tactics against them. We learned from the masters: REPUBLICANS

Re: Facts are dangerous things
"Each has had an 'elite' education. She has made remarks in settings related to her position as a jurist, but has not made such remarks from the bench."

Since when is dropping out of Stuyvesant High School and years later getting a GED considered an elite education?

As for her comments from the bench, in her most egregious decision - Ricci v. DeStefano - she was even kind enough allow the World her opinion on what jurisprudence it was based.

But I can understand why: in one (Knight vs. Commissioner)of only 2 of the 6 Sotomayor decisions that the Supremes agreed to review, the High Court, while upholding the decision - unanimously (9-0) rejected the reasoning she adopted, saying that her approach "flies in the face of the statutory language." Apparently she attempt to set policy from the bench!

BTW, remarks from the bench are meaningless - it the decisions that really count.

Left Angle
"once the rnc approved talking points are rendered EVERY republican/conservatives repeats the ad infinitum like the programmed robots they are..lmao " And just how do we receive these talking points? Do we all listen to Rush three hours a day with our decoder rings, or is there a Vast Network of Evil Right Wing Couriers? I've never seen a more diverse group than conservatives, who range over a wide area of beliefs and principles. It's only courtesy that keeps us from arguing with each other on these threads more than with the liberals. Of course, when you make statements like you just did, you betray an ignorance of reality that disqualifies you from further attention.

Robert whats ironic
is practically everytime I am involved in a discussion YOU show up to get involved in it.
the only person ignorant of reality is YOU robert.

all one has to do really is come in th on a daily basis and read the articles by the right wing pundits..tell me how many article this week have you read castigating the so-called msm about judge sotomayors "compelling life story and ethnicity" in regards to her qualifications to be on the ussc. i would estimate at least a dozen...

it's called the right wing punditry and echo chamber...I beleive a dude named david brock wrote a good book on it...or just look in the mirror you say the exact same things they do ALL THE TIME, ROBOT..LOL

robert one more thing
you right wingers are always saying the so-called msm won the election for dems and prez obama thru biased reporting...so tell me how THAT WORKS?

does the non intelligent u.s. public sit in front of their tv screens receiving hypnotic subliminal messages thru the screen:

repubs bad dems good repubs bad dems good...

then they go to the booth and vote democratic?

rotflmao

Re: Facts are dangerous things
"do the names Lee Atwater, Roger Ailes, R. Mellon Sciafe or Karl Rove ring a bell for you? I am sure you would qualify these as right wing non-confrontational "faint of heart" types eh?"

Yes, I do, and no, I have never received a "talking points memo" from any of them. Unlike you, I make up my own mind by searching for the facts and determining the truth. You would know a "Self-evident truth" if it bite you on the butt. As recall, Rove, a Democrat before joining the George the 2nd team, didn't become a "household word" until 2000, way after you leftist "hitmen" orchastrated an electronic lynching for one of America's greatest jurist!

As for Lee Atwater - hasn't he been dead since 1991? What did you guys do - "Channel" him - like Hillary did Eleanor Roosevelt? BTW, Eleanor's maiden name was also Roosevelt - don't you find that the least bit weird?

"Ever heard of the 'right wing echo chamber'"

Only on Air America - West Palm Beach, I think, is one of two stations that still carry them. Have you ever heard of the "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy?" Apparently there both Leftist "Wet Dreams!"

Re: Facts are dangerous things
"the gop and far right have a long history of mud slinging, character assasination, propaganda dissemination and dirty politics ..if in fact dems/libs have gotten better at it, that comes from observing gop/cons, adopting and using their OWN tactics against them. We learned from the masters: REPUBLICANS"

Really? I guess you guys thought FDR and LBJ were pussycats! At least Nixon didn't use the Mafia and the Teamsters to get elected like Kennedy did - Good Old Richard Daley gave special meaning to the term "Bring out your dead!" on that 1960 Election Day. Speaking of the Daley Machine, your man, Alhaji Hussein Obama, brought that corrupt organization to DC just as FDR brought NY's Tammany Hall Political Machine in the 1930s. My question is did LBJ have JFK killed or was Oswald the "lone gunmen?"

And I didn't even get into Nobel Laurate Jimmy Carter's Georgia Mafia!

DEMOCRATS DO NOT CARE
IF IT DOES NOT INVOLVE THE GAYS, ILLEGAL ALIENS, ABORTIONIST, BLACK GENOCIDE PROVIDERS, CRACK COMMUNITY, ALCOHOLICS, PRESCRIPTION DRUG ABUSERS; THE DEMOCRATS FROM THE WHITE HOUSE TO LOCAL COMMUNITY GROUPS DO NOT CARE EVEN THOSE IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

Re: Fooling the People
"you right wingers are always saying the so-called msm won the election for dems and prez obama thru biased reporting...so tell me how THAT WORKS?"

Save all the hard questions for his opponents (Primary - General). Don't explore his "bonafides" or his "known associates" or leadership ability or his "principles and philosophies" or even he was born in the USA. Create an image of him that gives MSM "a tingling up their leg!" Don't ask him explain some of his wackiest quotes. Bingo! You have the "Media Created Messiah" that can do no wrong and who walks on the Chicago River.

"does the non intelligent u.s. public sit in front of their tv screens receiving hypnotic subliminal messages thru the screen:"

Yep!

"repubs bad dems good repubs bad dems good..."

Only since Goldwater ran for President in '64.

"then they go to the booth and vote democratic?"

You got it! As that great Republican and freer of the African Blacks, Abraham Lincoln once said:

"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and of people some of time, but you can't fool all of the people all of time"

"rotflmao"

Again, laughing uncontrolably for no apparent reason is a sure sign of insanity. Looks like we need to order you a rubber room!

In Chicago
I have a friend who lived several years in a housing project on Chicago's south side. She said they were nice places to live while her father was out of work, until he found another job, and saved up some money to get a place of their own again. The places were nice until "they" stopped screening the applicants. That's when it went down hill.

"These are the times
that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis shrink, from the service of their country; but he that stands it now deserves the love and thanks of man and woman.

Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph....

Up and help us; lay your shoulder to the wheel;
THE HEART THAT FEELS NOT NOW, IS DEAD."

THOMAS PAINE "THE AMERICAN CRISIS" We are now in the Obama crisis. What will you choose to do?

JOIN THE ONLINE AMERICAN GRAND JURY. Are you willing to fight for your dream? Do not consider yourself a vanquished people!!


http://americangrandjury.org........ Read Act Believe. The time is now.

John Acton: you are NUTS....
gET hELP sOON...DUDE...

A RIGHT WING FRINGE CON LUNATIC YOU ARES....

gOT ANY MORE CONSPIRACY THEORIES?

Hal Donahue
Has the same moral compass that Bill Clinton has. Hal never graduated from the 8th grade. Tries to put down conservative blacks ie. calling Dr Sowell, "Sowell", what a bigot. Hal tells more lies in ten minutes than Dr Sowell has told his whole life. Go back to Homoville and the Huffy puffy post, where all democratic hacks like to gather and blow each other. Hal dreams of having sex with Madeline Albright and Helen Tomas at the same time, what a threesome!!!!!!!!!!! WOOOOHOOOOOO Cheers

Re: A mind is a terrible thing to lose
"John Acton: you are NUTS....
gET hELP sOON...DUDE...

"A RIGHT WING FRINGE CON LUNATIC YOU ARES....

gOT ANY MORE CONSPIRACY THEORIES?"

Great come back, Dude, but you better stop the drooling, you look like an imbecile. Having a battle of wits with you is just like shooting an unarmed man.

Nice capitalization, though - did someone hide your crayons?

Hey, if you learn to play nice, I think I can get some of your friends at TownHall to chip in and buy you a drool cup.

Re: Facts are hard things!
"Each has had an 'elite' education."

Speaking of "elite" educations, while Alhaji Hussein Obama's little girls attend the ELITE Friends School, he ordered his new Sec. of Education to crush the hopes of thousands of Black kids, living in Washington, DC's projects, of getting a decent education. Talk about your "Empathy". Talk about your caring for the "down-trodden!" Talk about your hypocrisy!

Karen
Have you ever noticed what happened to the useful word "discrimination"? It has undergone the process known as pejoration, by which its earlier meaning, which is connected to a "discriminating taste" in wine or music or poetry, has been degraded by a media-driven connection to racial injustice to the point where all discrimination (as between good students or tenants and bad ones) is seen as a social evil to be eliminated.

Thus the good public housing projects Dr. Sowell writes about simply had to go, because good liberals could not have any "discrimination" going on between the muggers, thieves, addicts, drug dealers, violent drunks, prostitutes, etc., and responsible tenants.

How often do words--mere words--drive social policies into places their idealistic proponents could never have imagined?

Robert in AZ
I always enjoy your posts. Live long and prosper!

Re: Stuck on Stupid!
"Robert whats ironic is practically everytime I am involved in a discussion YOU show up to get involved in it. the only person ignorant of reality is YOU robert."

Hmmm! Must be love! BTW, stop the drooling, you really look silly.

"all one has to do really is come in th on a daily basis and read the articles by the right wing pundits..tell me how many article this week have you read castigating the so-called msm about judge sotomayors 'compelling life story and ethnicity' in regards to her qualifications to be on the ussc. i would estimate at least a dozen..."

Dummy! A "compelling life story and ethnicity" does not qualify anyone to sit on the Highest Court in the land. It requires much more - starting with a lack of bias (a.k.a. "Empathy") and having a judicial temperment that allows the Nominee to merely "apply the written law" - just as their oath requires. Being a confessed policy (trend?) setter from the bench, Senorita Sotomayor doesn't qualify.

"it's called the right wing punditry and echo chamber...I beleive a dude named david brock wrote a good book on it...or just look in the mirror you say the exact same things they do ALL THE TIME, ROBOT..LOL "

Ah! The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy again - why can you have your conspiracy theories but I can't have mine (you don't really believe that Bush actually "blowup" WTC, do you?).

Which book of "Swishy" Davie Bock is that? The one where he exposed, with overwhelming FACTS, that Anita Hill was a shill for the Abortion Industry?

There you go again! Laughing uncontrolably for no apparent reason. You are really a legend in your own mind.

Re: Facts are hard things!
"Thus the good public housing projects Dr. Sowell writes about simply had to go, because good liberals could not have any 'discrimination' going on between the muggers, thieves, addicts, drug dealers, violent drunks, prostitutes, etc., and responsible tenants."

Actually it even worse than that, just as the Feds declared that all Federally funded (virtually all) public housing projects - "Gun-Free Zones," preventing the "victim" tentants from defending themselves and their property, the local cops gave up on trying to "police" them.

Re: Constitution for Legally Challenged
"a question what are the constitutional requirements for a ussc judge?"

Simply - they are found in the Judiciary Act of 1789, passed by the 1st Congress, which also passed the Bill of Rights to the States for ratification, to wit:

SEC. 8. And be it further enacted, That the justices of the Supreme Court, and the district judges, before they proceed to execute the duties of their respective offices, shall take the following oath or affirmation, to wit: "I, A. B., do solemnly swear or affirm, that I will administer justice without respect to persons, and do equal right to the poor and to the rich, and that I will faithfully and impartially discharge and perform all the duties incumbent on me as , according to the best of my abilities and understanding, agreeably to the constitution, and laws of the United States. So help me God."

The key points are: "to administer justice" - not make policy; "without respect to persons, and do equal right to the poor and to the rich" - "empathy" is definitely out; and "agreeably to the constitution, and laws of the United States" - for the intellectually challenged that mean according to the "law as written." That is why we are Republic - "a government of laws and not a government of men!"

If our present crop of leftist judges were made to uphold the oaths, all would probably be impeached.

That, mon ami, is the truth. But as you demostrated so many times before - "You can't handle the truth!"

Re: Here comes da judge!
"Yes Mr. Estrada was nominated to the Federal Circuit rather than the SC. AND, it's the only time EVER that a successful denial was launched for a nominee to a lesser court."

But Estrada was on a fast tract to the High Court, which is why the Left "de-railed" him. He probably would have been named instead of Harriet Miers when Sandra O'Connor retired, thus being the first hispanic Supreme Court candidate. The left just couldn't have that.

Dr Sowell
is right in pointing out the difference between what was originally "public housing" and projects of today. I was reminded of the Richard Allen Homes in North Phila.

When they opened there was a screening process. An address in Richard Allen was not a stigma. Dr. Walter Williams lived in Richard Allen with his family before he went on to great things.

My wife and I, back in the late 50s, were on a waiting list to move into Champlost Homes in Phila. There were random visits by Housing Authority employees who popped in to check the cleanliness of the units and the upkeep of the lawns. It was a nice place to start a family.

Then came the liberals and their deranged compassion for the poor. It was humiliating for people to have their space invaded by inspectors. Background checks were eliminated. Drug users and criminals of every stripe moved in.

Fortunately we had moved on by that time. Liberals are responsible for every ailment that afflicts the black communuty in America. I think that they are vile, arrogant people.

Left Angle
Left Angle Location: MD
Reply # 56
Date: Jun 4, 2009 - 1:36 PM EST
bporter: repubs ARE being emotional
thats just the point. this article by mr.sowell, statements by repub leaders gingrich and limbaugh are purely "emotional" reactions to a statement they consider to be "racist" by
Judge Sotomayor. that statement so bothered the repub/cons punditry so much that they have expressed "outraged" that she is still being considered for the USSC.

The Coulters and Malkins are "disturbed" that the so-called msm is supposedly drawing inspirational inference to her ethnic background and escape from poverty.
They see a "double standard" and it "angers" them.

Yeah mr b. porter, with repubs/cons it has nothing to do with "feelings". you are all logical like Mr. Spock...sure youre right lmao

===============================================

You see this is the problem with you Liberals. You use racism out of context as in your rants because we don't agree with your Obamantion's policies, where as we use racism in it's true context as in Sotomayor truly is a bigot, both by her speech and her actions and we're just emotional and taking the poor woman's words out of context.

Why don't you get a life pal. Nothing you could say could get any real rise out of any of us here.

Send the following letter to Rep. Sens.:
Judge Sonia Sotomayor is unfit to serve on the Supreme Court of the United States because she sees herself as a political activist first and a jurist second. In a speech in California in 2001 she disparaged white male judges, saying, "I would hope that a wise Latino woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion (as a judge) than a white male who hasn't lived that life."

In a current case from the New Haven, Connecticut, fire department, Sotomayor has ruled from the appellant court that job applicants' loss of promotion after succeeding on a test designed to be race neutral was "thorough, thoughtful, and well reasoned," because no black applicant had achieved an acceptable score. That seventeen (17) "white" test takers had succeeded, including TWO (2) HISPANICS, the test was thrown out by the officials in New Haven and no promotions granted to anyone. Such activism shows Sotomayor is less interest in minority success than enforcing that success by any means FROM THE BENCH.

On the Second Amendment, Sotomayor is anti-gun as revealed in "the right to possess a gun is clearly not a fundamental right" (US v Sanchez-Villar, 2004). This opinion is exactly opposite of the recent US Court ruling supporting an earlier verdict in Washington,, DC, that affirmed the right to bear arms as fundamental as any rights enumerated in any other amendment in the Bill of Rights.

Sotomayor was only following her own philosophy that appellant courts are where "policy is made", which she claimed at Duke University in 2005.

This Obama nominee, as with many others, is out of step with Main Street America, out of step with Supreme Court rulings, and not qualified on her legal history or personal beliefs to be a Supreme Court justice. That she is of Puerto Rican descent and struggled to make her position in life is immaterial.


John Acton


John Acton
Location: FL
Reply # 71
Date: Jun 4, 2009 - 3:33 PM EST Re: Facts are dangerous things
"do the names Lee Atwater, Roger Ailes, R. Mellon Sciafe or Karl Rove ring a bell for you? I am sure you would qualify these as right wing non-confrontational "faint of heart" types eh?"

Yes, I do, and no, I have never received a "talking points memo" from any of them. Unlike you, I make up my own mind by searching for the facts and determining the truth. You would know a "Self-evident truth" if it bite you on the butt. As recall, Rove, a Democrat before joining the George the 2nd team, didn't become a "household word" until 2000, way after you leftist "hitmen" orchastrated an electronic lynching for one of America's greatest jurist!

As for Lee Atwater - hasn't he been dead since 1991? What did you guys do - "Channel" him - like Hillary did Eleanor Roosevelt?

***
BTW, Eleanor's maiden name was also Roosevelt - don't you find that the least bit weird?
***


"Ever heard of the 'right wing echo chamber'"

Only on Air America - West Palm Beach, I think, is one of two stations that still carry them. Have you ever heard of the "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy?" Apparently there both Leftist "Wet Dreams!"

~~~

Weren't Eleanor and FDR, "Second Cousins" ?

Or were they "First Cousins" ?



Brooklyn's in the House
I grew up in a New York City Housing Project. I loved it.

There was an aerial photo of my block in our Social Studies textbook. I was confident that our wonderful government had provided wonderful housing and wonderful schools so that we could each grow up to be President of the best country in the history of the world, bar none.

What's Sotomayor's problem?

Out of Context
Why is it when a liberal says something racist or discriminatory the defenders say it was taken out of context; but when a conservative says something similar they have to apologize, which they ususally do?
Sheer hypocrisy!

Biographical considerations matter
to those who avidly read People Magazine while waiting for their botox injections. Also to legislators whose constitutents own cemetery plots for their cats.

But Sotomayor has a "foundation of traditional values" in a more real sense than did Dr Sowell. However, his values have stuck with him and hers not?

But at some point, she began to be in "elite intellectual circles" whose members are not named by Dr Sowell. God love the man, I believe that he moves in the same circles.

Dr Sowell places little value on his most avid followers. If he valued you, he would use a fact rather than a code word. (The code word allows the reader to insert his/her story into the construct otherwise seeming to belong to Sowell. Your heads nod at this truth.

BTW: Will you support the funding of an aide for firefighter Ricci when he is promoted to the Lt's office? Because, you know, he can't read accurately. And that may be a part of a Lt's job description.


Not Qualified
If Sotomayor is seated she will not be the only justice unqualified for the position of Associate justice to sit on the current bench. Since the time of John Marshall, justices have made new law from an unelected lifetime position on the Supreme Court. I care nothing about her gender, her ethnic background nor her much touted "life experience". The Founders neither favored nor rejected such"qualifications". I do care about her rejection of Constitutional principles. I have read some of her decisions and am convinced that she is not inclined to follow the Constitution and the Judiciary Act of 1789, therefore her nomination should to be rejected. I am not hopeful that my Senators will listen, but I will send a copy of this post to them.

Re: FDR you ole' dog
"Weren't Eleanor and FDR, 'Second Cousins' ?

"Or were they 'First Cousins' ?"

Apparently, Eleanor and Franklin were fifth cousins, once removed, but it sounds more like Appalachia than Hyde Park, New York - I can even hear the duelling banjos.

William's flawed assumptions
regarding dyslexia beg the question. Here are the facts. Frank Ricci, a firefighter with 11 years experience in New Haven, CT. gave up a second job to have time to study for the lieutenant's test. Because he has dyslexia, he paid $1,000 out of his own pocket to have the textbooks transcribed onto audiotapes. He made flashcards, took practice tests, worked with a study group, and participated in mock interviews. Ricci placed 6th among 77 people who took the lieutenant's test. I could follow this guy into harm's way.

The city of New Haven, CT approved the test which was constructed to eliminate cultural bias and the test served as law. All firefighters were offered equal access to study materials and the test was given under standardized conditions. Ricci studied and passed, others didn't. From what I have read, the procedure met the due process test. Sotomayor used her empathy driven logic to overrule her judicial obligation to the Constitution. Is she qualified to be an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court? No!

Good public housing!
Has anybody here noticed that Sowell is actually praising 'public housing?' And who created this public housing? Liberal Democrats, that's who. Sowell's column shows, whether he realizes it or not, that public housing isn't nearly as bad as conservatives have always said it was.

So, TH readers, read this piece again, sharpen your gith-wing knives, and eviscerate that evil liberal Sowell for praising something you folks know is wrong.

Gestell
My goodness--talk about taking something out of its iMMEDIATE, OBVIOUS context--well, words fail me.

Re: Stuck on Stupid!
"Sowell's column shows, whether he realizes it or not, that public housing isn't nearly as bad as conservatives have always said it was."

Thomas Sowell lived in public house in the 1930's. It didn't become the nightmare it is today until LBJ, Carter, and Clinton ran it into the ground in search of their "Great Society."

Re: Government of Men
"Sotomayor used her empathy driven logic to overrule her judicial obligation to the Constitution."

To get her "preferred" outcome, Senorita Sotomayor not only violated the Constitution's "equal justise clause" of the 14th Amendment, but also Federal Law (the Civil Rights Act of 1964), and at two Supreme Court precedents.

also for Gestell
Harry Truman, a fiscally conservative Democrat, should get the credit for the "projects" of which Dr. Sowell speaks.

oldprof.............please never go away.

you neither, earl.

troll count low...a good day

Great column, Dr
...as always.

Most of you may have already read Dr. Walter Williams's column concerning Sotomayor, where he compares her brand of empathy to sports referees. Check it out. Another must-read.

I've been reading Dr Sowell's columns recently and decided to subscribe to Townhall. Thanks again for the insight.

Richard
I don't plan to go away. And I hope Dr. Sowell retains his sterling intellect to age 100 and writes a dozen more books.

Dr. Sowell and Dr. Williams shed more light on subject outside their specialties than any other economists I have read.

erratum
SUBJECTS--many, many of them--not subject.

Lefty Hate Mongering
Lefty hate mongering is on the rise. Why is the left so filled with vicious vitriol? It makes no sense. In this great country you are allowed to help your fellow man as much as you want. Go help them, nothing is stopping you. I've never met a conservative who didn't give a great deal of time and/or money to helping his fellow man.
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