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Tuesday, May 19, 2009
Thomas Sowell :: Townhall.com Columnist
Photographic Fraud
by Thomas Sowell
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The media have an obvious vested interest in constantly urging that cameras be allowed in more places where governmental decisions are being made, including the Supreme Court of the United States. Like so many things that are said to be good for the public, this is something that would be good only for its advocates-- and harmful to the process of making decisions in the public interest, as distinguished from providing a forum for grandstanding.

The adage that "seeing is believing" should be a warning. What you see in politics is what politicians want you to see. You believe it at your own risk-- and at greater risks to the country.

Televised Congressional hearings are not just broadcasts of what happens to be going on in Congress. They are staged events to create a prepackaged impression.

Politically, they are millions of dollars' worth of free advertising for incumbents, while campaign finance laws impede their challengers from being able even to buy name recognition or to present their cases to the public nearly as often.

The real work of Congress gets done where there are no cameras and no microphones-- and where politicians can talk turkey with one another to make deals that could not be made with the public listening in.

To be a fly on the wall, able to listen in while these talks were going on, would no doubt be very enlightening, even if painfully disillusioning. But that is not what you are getting in video footage on the evening news.

Some might argue that, in the absence of the cameras, many people might not know what is going on in Congress or in the courts. But being uninformed is not nearly as bad as being misled.

For one thing, it is much easier to know that you are uninformed than to know that you are being misled.

Quite aside from the fraudulence of a photographic facade, even if everyone involved played it straight, there is often remarkably little to be learned from observing a court case, for example, unless you understand the legal framework within which that case is to be decided. That is especially so in appellate courts, including the Supreme Court.

The same thing applies in many other contexts. You could watch televised brain surgery for years without getting a clue, if you had no medical training that would enable you to understand what is being done and why-- and what the alternatives are that you do not see on camera, much less know whether the surgeon has consummate skill or is botching the whole thing.

The more complex the issue, the more likely that understanding the context is vastly more important than seeing a picture and hearing sound bites.

Wars are especially susceptible to being distorted on camera. A dramatic event with emotional impact need not tell you what its military significance is. The viewer is able only to react emotionally, in circumstances where rationality can be the difference between life and death, not only for the combatants, but also for the societies from which they come.

Even when televised Congressional hearings are meaningless in themselves-- the real decisions having been made off camera-- their implications can be devastating. But implications cannot be televised.

Over the past two decades, judicial confirmation hearings have often become exercises in character assassination against nominees that Senators oppose for political reasons having nothing to do with the inflammatory charges that are aired on nationwide TV.

Judges who have for years supported civil rights have been depicted as racists. Other events in their careers have been twisted beyond recognition. Utterly irrelevant questions have been raised to appeal emotionally to uninformed television viewers.

The most direct harm is of course to the nominees. But the most important harm is to the public and to the country. Not only are many top-notch people lost and many innocuous second-raters appointed in their place, many other top-notch people refuse even to be nominated, rather than see the sterling reputation of a lifetime destroyed by political demagogues.

None of those lost people and their talents are televised, though they may be far more important than what is televised.

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Semper Libertus #82
Sadly, I have to agree with you. At this point, even if there were proof that he was born in Kenya or that he actually went to college under a foreign student program, these problems pale when compared to cap-and-trade, nationalized health care and welfare reform, and what we're going to do when all this funny money he's been printing starts to circulate. Watch out prices, and hang onto your wallets!!

TV cameras in the House
Dr. Sowell is right. Look at the carnival atmosphere in the House of Representative since they allowed cameras. Both sides are guilty, but the Democrats take the cake for staging buffoonery and grandstanding. I say take the cameras out because all we're doing is giving them free air time especially after the House or Senate adjorns when the reps and sens put on their "unpaid advertisement" shows to nobody but the CSPAN audience.

"Yes!" to cameras in the courtroom
At the risk of offending those who like to show off their "reasonableness" by equivocating over whether or not 1 plus 1 equals 2, especially defendants should have the right to make their own recordings of what went on in the court room.
As any truthful lawyer (sorry about the oxymoron) will admit over a third drink, the unwritten and unspoken rule regarding courts is "the judge can do whatever s/he wants." I have witnessed first hand judicial tampering with the register of actions, the record on appeal, and the transcript. The entire system will protect such criminal judicial behavior under the blanket of absolute judicial immunity.
VERY rarely will a case come along such as United States v. Lanier, 520 U.S. 259, 117 S. Ct. 1219 (1997) (unanimous decision) where a judge actually gets what's coming to him for his criminal behavior, even though he was de facto protected by the 6th Circuit in United States v. Lanier, 73 F.3d 1380, 1394 n.13 (6th Cir. 1996)(en banc), in case anybody besides me wants to read this latter crock of malarky.
The desperate need for judicial reform in one of the establishment media's best black out story. At the very least, defendants desperately need to be able to make their own record of what went on in the courtroom. Not everybody can afford to hire their own certified court reporter.
There is no more eloquent proof of the need for cameras in the courtroom than the U.S. Supreme Court cases which self-anoint the judiciaries with an absolute immunity that the constitution nowhere gives them.
Read these cases and weep:
Bradley v. Fisher, 80 U.S. (13 Wallace) 335 (April 8, 1872) - (read at the http://supreme.justia.com/us/80/335/case.html webpage),
Pierson v. Ray, 386 U.S. 547 (1967)
(read at the http://supreme.justia.com/us/386/547/case.html webpage),
Stump v. Sparkman, 435 U.S. 349 (1978)
(read at the http://supreme.justia.com/us/435/349/case.html webpage).

Semper Libertas
You had me at "definitely."

I may have a weird [not wierd] spelling fixation, but I still can't get over how many times I've read "definately" on various web threads and how consistently I've disagreed with the points of view of those various misspellers. Here's a theory: Although I'm admitting a prejudice against the (call them, for now, uneducated) posters who are so fond of their word, "definately;" I think it gives away their unwillingness to consider, even for a millisecond, any opinion other than their own.

In short, my Texan friend, to steal a line from Dennis Miller, I like the cut of your jib.

Speaklng of bitchin' jibs, you sir, Dr. Sowell, are so the man! (another personal aside - I may be overly fond of alliteration, but here's a high five for "fraudulence of a photographic facade")
My take on the "let's put in teevee" issue is...I don't know... dismay and defeat. These last dozenish years of "reality tv" hasn't exactly brought out the best in what broadcast media can or should do, in my opinion. You nailed it with "many other top-notch people refuse even to be nominated, rather than see the sterling reputation of a lifetime destroyed by political demagogues."
On the flip-side, conservative talk radio dominated over a sleazy tv ad-campaign (financed by left leaners) in our Los Angeles City Attorney race. I'll gladly commit one final sin (finger-pointing) by saying, "how do you like them apples, Mr. Mayor." (Antonio Villaraigosa, originally Tony Villar, a Democrat, who has hopes of higher office, but mighta just missed the boat.
I've got to work on a 2008/Titanic/global warming/iceberg metaphor.

re: Spudz
quote: "However, tho, I feel like an interloper, writing on this thread. I havent called anybody a dirty name. I haven't gone off on a tangent. Maybe I should have sent this message in the mail."


You definitely wouldn't belong on the comment thread of a Kevin McCullough article unless you clean up your act and start inserting broad-based invectives against "liberals" and personal insults of anyone who dares disagree with you. For the most part, however, you'll be OK. :D

re: Steve
I'm sure you have references to specific information proving your claims? For example, you state unequivocally that Mr. Obama was born in Kenya -- what proof do you have? What proof do you have that he attained Indonesian citizenship? Etc.

Further: why would the Clintons have allowed this to go on? Why would the governor of Hawaii participate in such a sham?

Sorry, this whole nonsense doesn't pass the first test: the common sense test, aka the "smell test". Seriously, we need to get off silliness like this, as it takes away credibility when we are critical of REAl threats, like cap-n-trade, government health care, etc.

Law
We're a Nation of Laws, except for lawyers turned politicians. Cameras won't help solve the problems!

Good insight to the supreme court
My mind was a blank as to the negative aspects of photography in scotus. Your article made many good points that gives a person a clear understanding of the seriousness of the subject. I thank you, Thomas.

However, tho, I feel like an interloper, writing on this thread. I havent called anybody a dirty name. I haven't gone off on a tangent. Maybe I should have sent this message in the mail.

Spudz

Dag
It takes a 2/3 majority. Is that correct?

I'd bet
I'd bet most people don't even know the congress can override any presidential veto and make their bill law anyway.
I bet most would argue that is 100% untrue, or would have a thousand qualifications to such a thing.

Yes the crimes are never ending
Of course, so we see Chriss Dodd scream about a mere pittance in retaining bonuses that we find out he lined up anyway - and the massive billions fly off while noone notices as the idiot congressional con artists spew and holds endless sessions that they themselves "cannot understand" with their 5 minute questioning sessions and moving on.
After the dim dems wrote up the law for trillions to be thrown around, they got on c-span and pretended like someone else did it.
I have cautioned over and over again for years now that the Congress writes the laws and the bidgets and it is they who need to be held accountable, but even hardcore repubs scream at me that the president can veto and therefore he did it all. Try to tell them the congress can override any veto, and they go into party mode and parsing numbers.
Ok, so since the congress is so split, it is not responsible for any laws it passes that any president signs, doesn't sign and becomes law, or vetoes until the congress writes up another version and passes it, or overrrides the president.
They can override the president on anything.
But the president does it allaccording to nearly everyone.
I mean the whole nation is insane. It's gone bonkers.
The news talks about presidential budgets and presidential spending. Next it talk about congressional budgets and congressional spending and pork. It reports obama promised no pork - as if a president can do such a thing...
A president can NEVER insure no pork - if he vetoes a pork bill the congress can simply override the president and the pork is ABSOLUTE LAW ANYWAY.
I sure wish people would tell the truth. Maybe if they did, we could get out of this mess.

Fancy-Pantsy Nancy

Where Did Nancy Go Wrong???
What's going on here? One day Nancy is the Cat's Meow...the next day her name is MUD. Who did she cross and why?

Politics is a Blood Sport. Rile the King and you get bloodied.Nancy has stepped on many toes to get to the top and has made many enemies in her own party.Payback is he!l.

She was used to get the Porkulus Pkg. passed and it has been rumored she is working on the Healthcare Bill. What happened?

We will see if this is all a smokescreem to cover something more sensational. Like "Keep your eyes on the right hand",while the left hand is doing all the dirty business.

Obama not meet Constitutional criteria
Obama does not meet the criteria to be President under the U.S. Constitution. Why doesn't Obama release his college applications or his passport records? Because they will show that he is an Indonesian citizen. He never gave up his Indonesian citizenship when he returned to Hawaii from Indonesia at age 10. (Obama's mother remarried an Indonesian when Barack was five, and she and Barack moved to Indonesia when Barack was six. Both became Indonesian citizens). In 1981, at age 20, Obama traveled to Indonesia to visit his mother, and stopped off on the return trip to visit Pakistan with school friends. He traveled there on his Indonesian passort.

Why doesn't Obama release his original birth certificate? Because it will show that he was not born in Hawaii, rather he was born in Kenya (his father's native country). Either way, because he is an Indonesian, or because he was born in Kenya, Obama is not qualified to be President under the U.S. Constitution, as he is not a "natural born" citizen (or even simply a citizen). Obama and the leadership of the Democratic Party know this to be true and will not authorize the release of Obama's records. Mutliple legal cases are challenging Obama's status to be President. Check out- wnd.com or obamacrimes.info or defendourfreedoms.org. Spread the word, as the media REFUSES to cover this issue!

Obama Gives $15.4 Billion Gift

Barack Obama is going to give at least a $15.4 billion gift to 'Some Group' - of course it won't be anyone Obama knows or owes.

"NEW YORK, May 19 (Reuters) - General Motors Corp’s (GM.N) plan for a bankruptcy filing involves a quick sale of the company’s healthy assets to a new company initially owned by the U.S. government, a source familiar with the situation said on Tuesday.

The source, who would not be named because he was not cleared to speak with the media, did not specify a purchase price. The new company is expected to honor the claims of secured lenders, possibly in full, according to the source…

…In addition, the government would extend a credit line to the new company and forgive the bulk of the $15.4 billion in emergency loans that the U.S. has already provided to GM, the source said."

re: O, #70
quote: "A Kenyan born stealth muslim in the White House!?!"

Um, right. Let's see, the black UN helicopters are also coming for us, Clinton is laying plans to disallow the 2000 election and remain President, and the North American Union is imminent. Oh yeah, and our government was behind 9/11 too.


re: upnorthlurkin, #65
quote: "The electorate already has the power, we vote. Where we are not "empowered" is when we vote ignorantly."

Yes, and the more information we have available, the less likely we are to cast votes in ignorance.


quote: "Cameras in the SC would help about as much as they do on the battlefield."

Cameras would be great for the battlefield in terms of informing the public, if there weren't an actual national security purpose for not having them. I don't know of anyone in favor of televising national security secrets (except perhaps our current VP).


quote: "In my opinion we're just plain lazy, useful idiots."

Some people are, some people aren't. I prefer to think that I'm in the latter group, not the former. I attempt to advocate what I think is best, regardless of what my opinion of others is -- we are all equal before the law, with the same rights to life, liberty, and property.


quote: "Wasn't there a time when we gave a s4it enough to dig for the truth?"


I prefer making government more transparent and therefore easier for people to find the truth. The more digging one has to do, the easier it is to hide things.

American Patriot
If you believe that deals are cut only by right-wingers, or that politicians don't play to cameras and do all the "real work" outside of public view, you are the sort of fool who needs a nanny state to take care of you.
Sowell's comments are not that government should not be transparent, but that the real workings of government will not be made more, but rather less, transparent by putting cameras in the courtrooms, etc.
Take a look at Murtha - ever since Abscam, he has been on the edge of criminality, if not explicitly criminal, and yet he operates in the same facade of transparency as all the others. Oh, and he is not right-wing.

Fraud, Waste & Abuse Galore
Another solid article!
"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem." ~ Ronald Reagan

With the current climate of socialism, our borders will not be secured, threats will be ignored to our detriment, and terrorists will be released among us and maybe even given citizenship. There are NO limits to the reverse/perverse thinking of socialistic minds!

About this for a precedent: A Kenyan born stealth muslim in the White House!?! Where's the once again derelict, useless Supreme Court in this matter that was brought to their attention well before the election and squelched by the MSM? The Constitution is being mangled and the SC do-nothings are giving this impostor a pass?!? We are a nation in serious trouble.

Politicians of every stripe, save a handful, are a disgusting species. The same grossly incompetent and corrupt politicos who were complicit up to their eyeballs in the financial crisis are now going to fix that mess?!? And citizens are now gullible enough to allow these same miscreants to craft a sure abomination of a healthcare system?!? We can not let these bunglers and thieves loose on these crucially important problems unless we first “clean house” by throwing these idiots out of office and start with a fresh slate. Then establish new rules of ethics, conduct, and accountability, including pay-for-performance, limiting terms in office, and benefits more like on main street, and even then we need HEAVY citizen oversight of their deeds with no let up because as soon as our heads are turned, they’ll fall off the “good conduct” wagon.

Photographic Lies
I can remember not all that long about about a film shown on television about a soldier who shot a wounded man in Iraq. He was called a murderer and tries were made to have him tried and sent to prison for it.

What they did NOT show was the film from the day before with the same people and the same situation. In fact, it wasn't mentioned at all in the news. The same soldiers went into another house with a wounded man. The man called for help - and shot the soldier who went to help him.

What really happens in court:
Go here and read up on the cases they are tracking.

http://www.groklaw.net/index.php

It's mostly the legal attempts by Microsoft and it's proxies to destroy Linux and the posters are passionate followers of the subject. They regard some of the most obscure stuff as obvious and hilarious or ominous, and I understand about on quarter of the coverstations. Maybe.

This sort of thing is not going to even show up on the Nelson Ratings, never mind make Prime Time TV.

See what Dr. Sowell means
I agree with Dr. Sowell about the limitations of cameras in SCOTUS. That said, I once argued(not entirely tongue-in-cheek) that if we were to see these people as they preen and prance for the audience, why not take it to the truman show extreme and film them All the time 24-7? Boring, yes but imagine Reid making a shady land deal or Pelgrossi making a threat against one of her opponents with the fear of some watchdog outing them. Almost worth the boredom sure to ensue as one watches these vapid shallow demagogues(see the H.L Mencken definition) try to live to the standard they expect of their opposition.Funny and unrealistic but it really brings you back to the proper tool for controlling these people. Term limits. Short ones.

A Camera For an Elephant in the Room?
What do we need a camera in Congressional Hearings or the Supreme Court -- or any where else for that matter?

If anyone needs a camera to understand what is going on, let me help you:

- The Federal Government has spent us into oblivion.

- We have millions of invaders from the Third World in our country and the Government is doing absolutely nothing about it.

- We have the Federal Government trying to take over private businesses.

- The Federal Government is in the process of trying to destroy the best health care system in the world and replace it with nationalized health care that fails miserably.

- Our Public Schools are pitiful and now the President wants to send everyone to college.

- Islam is at war with the United States and our government is more concerned with whether we're pouring water on head-choppers.

- California is literally falling in the ocean and the Federal Government wants to model our country after: California.

- The United States is becoming the laughing-stock of the world. We're coming apart at the seams, we're losing all values, morals and traditions and we're on the brink of total chaos.

Now...what exactly do you need a "camera" for?


More sun = better view of an arse
Semper, et al:

I think you're missing part of the good Dr's point. It is not a matter of "empowering" the electorate -- WE HAVE TO EMPOWER OURSELVES. The electorate already has the power, we vote. Where we are not "empowered" is when we vote ignorantly.

Furthermore, Dr Sowell points out the war analogy. Cameras in the SC would help about as much as they do on the battlefield. Those with the camera will do a great job of showing you ALL you need to know and forming your opinion, just take a seat and here, sign this ballot we have filled out for you too.

In my opinion we're just plain lazy, useful idiots. Maybe I'm wrong but wasn't there a time when we (not "us" necessarily but American society in general) liked to discuss politics? Wasn't there a time when we gave a s4it enough to dig for the truth? Even a little?

I love to discuss any issue with anyone who'll talk. Usually it's layman to layman, both of us wrong most often but learning and listening. I don't like angering those close to me but for some reason it happens quite often.

If someone gets so emotionally charged that we have to end the discussion, what does that say about their real intentions? Learning? Teaching? Listening? or Propagandizing? Politics is not emotional! Politics is the nuts and bolts of our society. How effective is your mechanic when he's upset? How effective is ANYONE when their emotions are out of control?

I cried for two years when I found out I was broke...and only got more pissed off because after all that caring I was STILL broke.

American Patriot
Before you go off again, I don't think Dr. Sowell is advocating government secrecy. He is simply warning that if one is going to watch anything that is publicly aired, one must take it with a large grain of salt.

Perhaps you are overreacting just a bit. Or, are you always this rabid?

Money Quote:
"But the most important harm is to the public and to the country. Not only are many top-notch people lost and many innocuous second-raters appointed in their place, many other top-notch people refuse even to be nominated, rather than see the sterling reputation of a lifetime destroyed by political demagogues."

Who the hell will ever want to be a public servant except a political hack?

Put one camera, no comments.
City and Town Council meetings are usually a joke too, but lots of people go to them. In many parts of the country they are televised.

The Supreme Court Sittings are not at all like the OJ trial which dragged on for weeks and weeks. With rare exceptions, each side is allowed 30 minutes argument, so the case is over in about an hour.

The Court sits 3 days a week for a total of 4 hours a day. Over a two week "sitting" the court may hear up to 24 cases.

So, it is pretty lively.


You can read the baseball box score in the morning paper and know all about the game, you can hear the announcer on the radio tell you what is happening, but neither compares to watching the game for yourself.


The Camera Lies
In a time when beauty is so important and some judge others by their looks,the camera is not always a friend.

Remember the Nixon/Kennedy debate,most who heard it on radio,thought Nixon won it ,hands down. However,those who SAW it,thought the opposite.

C-SPAN has tried to get cameras into the Supreme Court for years and have so far been rebuffed.

Although I watch the Senate and House on C-SPAN quite often,I would hate to see cameras in SCOTUS.

I have heard several cases argued by SCOTUS on C-SPAN and would like to have actually seen it,but for some reason,I hate to think of the 'change'to video.

The OJ trial would have lasted weeks less without cameras. People play to the cameras when they should be consentrating on their words.

American Patriot

You racist. You just hate Dr. Sowell because he's black!

Dr Sowel is Secrecy Monger
This recalcitrant individual is advocating keeping government secret. He says that because we don’t understand it, we may be causing harm by looking. What an ignorant statement. Americans are not stupid, we will learn what we have to but we do understand. Showing Dr. Sowell is not as bright as they paint him. Transparency in government is paramount in our representative republic. Left to their own at running our government with secret deals has been a reason we have an economy in the tank, and are involved in 2 wars. Yet Dr. Sowell wants more secrecy and less camera / media exposure. This is so when there are right wing presidents they can make all the shady deals they want. We must and should defeat these government secrecy hawks and fight to know what those we elected are doing in our names. We elect them to enact policy in our name, we have the right to be involved as onlookers in this process, and it is our country. Dr. Sowell shows that he is an Extreme Radical Right Winger.

Mario

Thomas Sowell
I have got an even better grudge. Get Nancy Grace and her type off the air. This woman
has people tried and convicted before they are
even arrested. She is the biggest injustice
of all.

Dr Sowell's point is valid
in that our exposure to specific images often distorts our perception of the broader subject;
photographs of war's victims being a case in point.
Neither (immediately following 9/11) did it make sense for news=casters to display maps
with commentaries stating where terrorists could
successfully enter the U.S.

LOL, Bob!

It's not a "surrender", though I appreciate your good humor and grace.

I rarely disagree with Sowell; he's really a very bright guy. I just think he missed the mark with this one.

So.... you're in company with Dr. Thomas Sowell! Not bad; not bad at all, my friend.


Good column--
Dr. Sowell has written another thoughtful article. However, We here like to watch our favorite punks (p-lousy, b. fwank, prune reid, derby etc.) try to squirm or lie or deviate their way out of a tough question. The looks on their worthless faces tell how they really are.
We have noticed also that when Lou Dobbs has certain controversial wimps on to question them, that the wimps (activists, left wing types,) will really show their stupidity and some don't even realize it. But the public is able to see these low lifes for what they are.

Barney Franks
There is nothing more that B.F. likes better than a camera.He thinks he is far smarter than anyone else,and it shows.The Judge Thomas hearings werea farce,but it didn't affect how the public looks at the likes of Kennedy

re: Jeff
I agree with your exhortation towards skepticism. However, even the skeptic is more able to make informed decisions with greater access to information. Every medium is susceptible to manipulation, and the greatest skill of a successful politician is message manipulation. Restricting the avenues by which information can flow empowers the politicians, not the electorate.

Request of Dr Sowell
Looking at a photo of Barrack Obama I thought, "that looks a lot like a photo I saw a few days ago." It was a Tom Cruise I'm-at-the-Academy- Awards-and-I-need-to-have-a-dashing-grin-for-the-camera's type pose. Then I thought, let's take a look at the selections of photo's the White House has put out. I believe what they choose to present will say more than this presidency than what the media could ever put out. So I saw the title of this article and thought I'd ask if a photo documentary piece is something you'd be interested in doing.

The NATURE of TV
The very nature of TV as we know it in American is entertainment. It is passive. It is mindless. It's at its best with game shows and sitcoms. It's at its worst when it goes against its nature and attempts seriousness.

Sowell is on the money. Just think of who controls what you see -- and that includes C-Span. And even if the motives of those who control are pure, consider what you don't see -- the complexity behind the dog and pony show.

We should all understand by now that television is a frivolous diversion, and not a means of discourse. Follow Sowell's advice and be very skeptical of what you see and hear on the idiot box. Very skeptical.

BrianR

I surrender. Thanks for showing me the light.

An example: the Heller case

When Heller was being argued in front of SCOTUS, for some reason they allowed audio recordings of the proceedings. The day of the oral presentations, the NRA was in typical hair-on-fire mode, and they were predicting all kinds of dour and gloomy outcomes.

I read the transcript, and it didn't sound that dire to me, but I then listened to the audio recordings and realized -- from the verbal intonations and the nuance of the dialogue I could actually HEAR -- that the reportage was way off base.

Imagine the benefit of being able to SEE what's going on, too.


Bob...wow

Okay, you wrote: "The 'spinning' can be done by the congressfolk themselves".

I'm sure you mean like when they campaign. Or make any other speech. I don't even understand what point you're trying to make there.

You: "Not 'reportage.' You mean 'dog & pony show'."


There's a difference? LOL


You: "That's all well and good if you have perfect memory. I don't, so when, for example, Pilosi says 'I didn't say that. I said this.' I have the hard copy."

YOU will have a hard copy of her remarks as reported in the Congressional Record after she's edited them.

I, on the other hand, will have a copy I videotaped LIVE.

But I do appreciate your sense of humor, particularly in your closing line.



BrianR

"If the open forums are televised a la C-SPAN, there's no "spinning" that can be done by anybody. It's just raw data."

I disagree. The "spinning" can be done by the congressfolk themselves/

"Then everyone can draw their own conclusions, and independantly judge the accuracy of reportage."

Not "reportage." You mean "dog & pony show."

"Incidentally, you say "Read the transcripts".
If I can "read the transcripts", why can't I watch what those transcripts are transcribing? See the flaw in your own logic?"

That's all well and good if you have perfect memory. I don't, so when, for example, Pilosi says "I didn't say that. I said this." I have the hard copy.

"BTW, FYI, as to Congress, congresscritters are allowed to go back to the Congressional record and edit their comments later. Did you know that?"

No, I didn't. That's a VERY important point. Thank you for the head's up.

DAMN, you had to go and blow up my argument did't you!!

re: tgambogi
quote: " In Philadelphia during the humid hot summer the windows were closed and the drapes drawn as our founding fathers debated whether to declare independence from the British Crown. They didn't want anyone to witness the mutiny they were about to launch."

Secrecy: good when planning a revolution against an oppressive monarch in order to establsh a government based on individual liberty and deriving just authority from the consent of the governed, bad when attempting to hold said government to the standards on which it is founded.




quote: "· Back in the days of Tip O’Neill and our local hero Everett M. Dirksen, the back room deals provided the country a more bi-partisan atmosphere and a better country."


Yeah, not so much. I distrust most things that have "bipartisan" attached to them -- it usually means it strengthens politicians and government at the expense of individual liberty. See, as examples: "bipartisan" campaign finance reform, "bipartisan" drug welfare for elderly people, "bipartisan" health care "reform" that is coming.


quote: "Keep up the message. We need to hear logic in this world of spin doctoring."

Less access to raw facts provides more opportunity for spin, not less.

Lilly
you really must be a female with no prospects perhaps for marriage and children in life, for only then would it justify your calling inocents as "live-born product" must be hard going through life without empathy for others, feel sto me you are one of those self centered "females" who feel their wellbeing is more important than the children's like Obama you forgot to give the most innocents of souls protection under the law. He said no, his wife sent a letter to constituents exhorting them to raise the alarm that if this protection for the unborn child went through it would derrail roe v. wade which is ironic since one of the pro-life protestors at Notre Dame this weekend was the woman who built the "suppose scenario to the roe v wade" Seen the polls lately, the brothers and sisters of the Pro-choice movement are coming forward to claim justice for their murdered brothers and sisters.

Some points of rebuttal
First of all, the fact that ratings are low for C-SPAN and would be probably even lower for a "SCOTUS-SPAN" network is irrelevant; the important thing is that the access is there to those who desire to have it.

The idea that we are somehow better off with less information than with more just simply doesn't fly with me. That politicians will perform before a camera is a given; even yet, we get a lot of important information from the scripts they choose to perform. Since members of Congress are allowed to "revise" their actual remarks for the Congressional record, I like having access to the unvarnished, untainted source.

As for newspapers, I don't trust the media, and one reason newspapers are failing is that people have more and more access, either directly or through bloggers and organizations like Townhall or Cato or Club for Growth.

We don't define our society by the lowest common denominator. People who are either not bright or willing to be duped will be, regardless of how much access the rest of us get. I'm not going to accept less simply because someone else is less vigilant than I.

Bob

If the open forums are televised a la C-SPAN, there's no "spinning" that can be done by anybody. It's just raw data.

Then everyone can draw their own conclusions, and independantly judge the accuracy of reportage.

Incidentally, you say "Read the transcripts".

If I can "read the transcripts", why can't I watch what those transcripts are transcribing? See the flaw in your own logic?


BTW, FYI, as to Congress, congresscritters are allowed to go back to the Congressional record and edit their comments later. Did you know that?

BrianR
Brian observes, "Our system demands government do its work in open forums, and in this era "open" means accessible to all through the best means possible, which are electronic media."

I'd be more inclined to agree with you if the "electronic media" wasn't in the tank for Obama and the loony left.

Brian asks, "How else are we to judge the accuracy of what's being reported to us in the news?"

Read the transcripts of the speeches and get your news from several different sources instead of just the MSM. The MSM tells you what they think you should hear and rarely gives the whole story.

baseballdoc
If those script changes are adopted, they'll have yo change the name of the show to 42 'cause everything about it as bass-ackwards.
BTW, minor point, the JG character is named Janice.

Liberal Insanity

Liberalism is one of the few Mental Disorders known to man in which, whether a person contracts it or not is ENTIRELY up to them.

A few small modifications of behavior(read: personal responsibility), would have stopped this Mental Illness dead in its tracks years ago.

I'm with Semper Libertas

Sowell may be correct that MOST people won't understand the full implications of what's happening in televised proceedings, but some WILL.

Using his own heart surgery analogy, is he proposing that just because 9 out of 10 people won't understand the intricacies of the surgery, NOBODY should be allowed to view it? Or that ONLY other surgeons be allowed to view it?

Is THAT a good thing in "public" proceedings that affect the entire citizenry?

And just exactly WHO would be "allowed" to view these proceedings? You have to take a test, or what? Only the MSM? Other political hacks?

Or only those people lucky enough to gain admittance to the chamber where things are taking place and get an available seat? How are THEY any more qualified than anyone else?

Our system demands government do its work in open forums, and in this era "open" means accessible to all through the best means possible, which are electronic media. How else are we to judge the accuracy of what's being reported to us in the news?


lilly

"But, ever since, Obama has been portrayed by the Right Wing as requiring healthy full-term live-born infants to be abandoned to a cold and remote room where they will be left alone to cry and starve until they die of exhaustion."

Lilly, you're a perfect example of the sort of dishonest manipulator Dr, Sowell is talking about. You forgot to mention that those full-term, live-born infants were ABORTED.

The MSM is not content to merely report
on events; reporters have, for some time now, wanted to decide the course of events, and do all they can to make their prognostications come to pass. The first time I observed this was in the 1960s!!!

I had just learned in high school that the job of a reporter was to tell what had taken place. Then I saw Dan Rather, et al, telling what was GOING to happen. WHAT???
It's been going on ever since.

Evidently efforts to televise Supreme Court proceedings are efforts to influence the outcome of cases to meet the approval of the liberals in the MSM.

I have observed over the years just how arrogant the media personnel have become. They are merely reporters of events, but their interaction with the individuals who create the events causes them to believe they are much more than mere reporters.

Photographic Fraud
Dr. Sowell,
I agree with you column and two supporting thoughts came to mind:

· In Philadelphia during the humid hot summer the windows were closed and the drapes drawn as our founding fathers debated whether to declare independence from the British Crown. They didn't want anyone to witness the mutiny they were about to launch.

· Back in the days of Tip O’Neill and our local hero Everett M. Dirksen, the back room deals provided the country a more bi-partisan atmosphere and a better country.

Keep up the message. We need to hear logic in this world of spin doctoring.




Adloggy...
freezing my butt off here in upstate New York!!!
Is it Summer yet?

baseballdoc
Thanks for the heads up on 24. All us Obama supporters will love it.

Dr Sowell keep shining your light

You Sir, are a man who 'Faithfully' exposes ignorance with Truth!

You will not live forever, but your words will.

THE FUTURE AS SEEN THRU 24
...1. JACK'S life is saved by experimental stem cell surgery from his daughter but unexpected side effects cause him to grow breasts and his gonads to shrivel up ...

...2. RENEE accidentally kills a suspect with an over zealous interrogation technique ...

...3. JANET becomes the head of the FBI, fires CHLOE and issues a warrant for RENEE'S arrest ...

...4. RENEE discovers that she likes torture and becomes a dominatrix donning a skin tight black leather jump suit and begins calling herself CAT WOMAN ...

...5. JACK develops an overpowering urge to come to work in stiletto heels and fishnet stockings ...

...6. The President cracks up and is hauled off to a mental institution after ordering a sneak nuclear attack on RUSSIA ...

...7. In a special election America elects its first openly gay cross dresser who likes to dress up as a woman for special occasions ...

...8. RENEE helps TONY escape and they join an ECO-TERRORIST group and begin bombing pipelines and oil refineries to save the Planet ...

...9. JANET decides to diversify the FBI and begins a program of hiring gay black agents ...

...10. JACK is given command of this new elite group of agents and names them the LAVENDER FORCE ...they are assigned to stop RENEE & TONY although JANET is conflicted because she secretly has sympathy with their mission to destroy the Oil Companies and force America to go GREEN ...

...11. JACK is called to the WHITE HOUSE for a special briefing by the President and the physical attraction between the two is so overpowering that JACK allows himself to be seduced on the Presidents desk ...

...12. This encounter is captured on security tape and is hacked into by members of a NEO-CON SUPER PATRIOT GROUP that wants to blackmail the President into committing genocide against peace loving MUSLIMS ...

.....Stay tuned for an exciting new season as 24 goes PC .....COLOSSUS

Idiotic
Its idiotic to think that cameras anywhere near a politican, judge or other "public" employee would be of any REAL benefit to anyone! As Dr Sowell so adptly explained all cameras will do is give them a reason to perform. Do we really need more performing seals on TV? Why dont they just do their jobs and shut up. The consqeunces of their decisions on the American public will be more telling then anything we could ever observe on a television.

To James
Anyone who has sat and watched hours of courtroom procedures or hours of C-SPAN knows that the workings of government are usually not fun, entertaining, or sensationalistic. Unfortunately, the American public doesn't like to work its minds very hard and much prefers to get its news in slurpy, tasty, pre-digested form so that it is fun, entertaining, and sensationalistic. Of course, that means they also get it distorted and propagandized, but, eh, you can't have everything.

An example serves to demonstrate that the abyss between what actually happens in legislative work and what turns up on the Rush Limbaugh show is wider than Grand Canyon: Barack Obama voted "NO" re writing a new law saying that the live-born product of an abortion could not be killed. His reason for so voting has been widely explained and published: a law was already on the books saying that live-born infants cannot be killed and replication in the law is not necessary because if a law stands, then that's already the law. But, ever since, Obama has been portrayed by the Right Wing as requiring healthy full-term live-born infants to be abandoned to a cold and remote room where they will be left alone to cry and starve until they die of exhaustion.

Sensationalism talks; truth walks.

Semper Libertas re: reply #21
I agree with some of what you say. Of course we need more light shown upon the government in hopes of finding truth. But when you say.. " But we watch knowing those things, it's part of the context with which we can judge them." That's true in part. 'Some' of us know these things. But within this new dumbed downed generation it seems that critical analysis is lacking along with common sense.

They readily accept what they see and what they're told as truth or fact.

law and sausage
There are 2 things people should never watch being made: Law and sausage; and for the same reasons.

That's why the ratings for C-SPAN and its spinoffs are among the absolute lowest on cable, until there's an event of national interest.

"[Supreme] Court TV" will have no audience, therefore it will have no influence. People just aren't that interested in watching the meat grinder at work.

I like sunshine too, Semper Libertas; I just don't think this is the way to get it. We had better sunshine when each major city had more than one newspaper, and people actually took the time to read. One more tv network covering one more facet of government in the way that tv covers everything (as entertainment, designed to sell an audience to an advertising sponsor) will not advance the cause of sunshine.

re: James
quote: "As a practicing lawyer with over 30 years experience, I can assure everyone that there are few things more boring than a courtroom hearing if one does not have a stake in the outcome."


Trust me, there are bloggers who will eat that up, and we'll get to see some of the more egregious (and laudable) performances. Think about some of the more despicable things we've heard from Congressmen; we *might* have read about them in the print media, but because it is on camera, we've got it nailed.

Semper
You think there should be more sunshine and say "obviously, politicians preen for the cameras. But we watch knowing those things, it's part of the context with which we can judge them." But the operative word here is "we." The bulk of the voters have NO idea; witness the wide variety of reasons The O was voted into office. "He went to Harvard." "He taught Constitutional Law." "He can bring us together and heal our wounds." "We need 'change.'" "He gives me 'hope.'" They watched his speeches, listened to his adoring media cheerleaders and delved no further.

Similarly, most people don't watch the congressional shows with "context" in their minds. They buy the acts...and unfortunately, Democrats are better actors than Republicans are. And the media are, with the exception of Fox News, cheerleading for the Democrats and amplify the Dem spin.

Court
As a practicing lawyer with over 30 years experience, I can assure everyone that there are few things more boring than a courtroom hearing if one does not have a stake in the outcome. As far as appointing U.S. justices for their political beliefs, the practice began under F.D.R. when he resorted to attempts at court packing and other threats after the Supreme Court correctly declared much of his New Deal to be unconstitutional.

Dog & Pony Show
As someone who served ten years in elected office, I can assure you that what you see in public hearings is a very truncated version of the actual discussion and decision process. Everyone who opens their mouth is very conscious of the camera and very careful to parse words. As many have pointed out, mistakes are occasionally made which reveal the true decision elements, but this is pretty rare. Any mistake in a public hearing is sure to be trumpeted by the media, so the wise pol will keep most of his thoughts to himself.

Clarence Thomas
Speaking of televised hearings just takes me back to the confirmation hearings for Clarence Thomas. Shameful exhibition of our elected pols presiding over a Kangaroo court.

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Hmmm....
... rarely do I find myself in such disagreement with Dr. Sowell -- not in his central thesis that photographs and video can be manipulated, but in his implied corollary that we'd be better off with less access to the machinations of government than we already have. Yes, obviously, much happens behind the scenes. And yes, obviously, politicians preen for the cameras. But we watch knowing those things, it's part of the context with which we can judge them.

I'm for putting more sunshine, not less, on what goes on funded by my tax dollars. Unless national security or some rare other exception is involved, I have a right to see and hear what the government that's supposed to serve me is doing. I'm for more cameras, not fewer.

Goshawk
Thanks, I remember that now that you mentioned it. A few, but not many, of the news channels commented on that. It was amazing how the black community allowed that to slide without condemnation. His care and compassion for that black American was really showing that day.

St. Denis
Things are great. Heading to the sand box in Aug. Have to reacclimate from Germany weather. Hope all is well in the Quarter. Keep up the good posting. I don't always have time but I know the conservatives are well served by you and our many brethren/sisters who post here.

Faites attention et Dieu vous bénit

Another tool...
for misinformation is what the addition of cameras would provide. As other posters have noted, it is not what is actually recorded that has impact, but what is presented after editing. And does anyone actually believe that "for the sake of clarity" the Barny F@gs and Schmuck Chumers would not be in control of spoon feeding their version -- suitably modified, of course -- to an already uncritical media for distribution?

ADLoggy
Thanks! And the same to you.

Re: your reply #8..You are so right. And who can forget that moment when Clinton, when leaving Browns funeral, was laughing like crazy when he noticed a camera on him. Then instantly tried to fake crying tears!

If we could ....
If we could make Congress what our Constitution meant it to be, I'd be happy camper! If that cannot happen, a high probability, then the next best thing is simply to do away with, or ignore Congress! What the heck are these few going to do with us million if we ignore them and go about "our" business? We can run this country by voting on everything. Hey, we got the technology! Why not! Think of the trillions we'd save! Majority rules! Politicians - who needs them in their current form?

Right On
Cameras in the halls of Washington would produce another Hollywood-East.
It really already exists, just without cameras. It would create jobs however - makeup artists, technicians, producers, etc.

Cameras or Cameramen?
I wouldn't mind cameras, it's the cameramen I might have a problem with.

I have heard that some of their best speeches are given to empty chambers, so obviously they don't even find each other interesting enough to listen to.

Who would be served by creating a "Truman Show" in a country that is supposed to be a representational government. Those advocating cameras in restricted areas are only advocating a part of a larger story. Who would want to read only the last chapter of a book? That would be the effect of having cameras in the court, it would be the end of a chapter, and if you did not know the whole story, you would be cheated.

I wish when polls were taken, you had to pass a basic civics test before you could proceed.

Enables Narcissism
The court must be public to safeguard its integrity but if it becomes a spectacle then it serves the narcissistic media making fools of us all in their indifference to truth.

ADLoggy

Hey! How are you? Is everything going well overthere?


Thank you Dr. Sowell
Great article!

Truth and honor have become rare commodities indeed. The American people are misled by pictures, words, statistics, etc.

Grandstanding politicians? Ted Kennedy trying to outsmart Chief Justice Roberts in the Senate hearings was farcical theatre at its best. Even some of my Dem relatives saw right through it.

Right on Dr. Sowell
So many televised hearings are only speaking opportunities for pompous politicians. No real questions are being asked, and networks often show only those pols they want you to see.
There have been a few cases where the force of personality turned the tables, Oliver North and Clarence Thomas, stand out as the best examples. The "Borking" of Robert Bork as the worst example of character assassination by liberal hacks like Ted Kennedy, Joe Biden, and Chuckie Shumer.
Leave the cameras out, and the Grand standers will stay home.

Rodney King is the classic example
There are obvious consequences of being misled.

Remember the videotaped "beating" (tasering?) of Rodney King that so inflamed the public that there was rioting and the burning of buildings because of supposed police brutality?

It turned out that that was the last few moments of a protracted arrest in which the huge arrestee showed himself violently impervious to every effort made to arrest him in a more civilized way.

Only the last brief moments were considered newsworthy, so that's what the public saw.

Dr. Sowell
Great article and enlightening analogies. I especially like the fake grandstanding and posturing when the politicians know the cameras are on. What is good about the mics and the cameras is when they think they are off. That's when we really learn alot about who these pols are.

P.S. Hello to Denise, Goshawk and Nam65-66. Hope you are having a great day.

Lying photos
Right again Thomas.
Imagine a photo of someone cutting open the chest of another person exposing the beating heart. Is this a horrible murder, a ritual Aztec sacrifice, or is it the ubiquitous “Triple Bypass”? You can’t tell the players without a scorecard!

Right on Dr.Sowell!
It makes me sick to see the likes of Pelosky, Barny Franks, Dodd, Reid or any of these corrupt political crooks sit in judgment of others, blaming them for what they themselves did or caused.

And the very selective editing of what the MSM shows the public on TV, has gone a long way in helping the Demo/Liberals sway public thinking and opinion. It's only now-and-then that something slips by them and the truth is exposed. Like Ovomit's comment to "Joe The Plumber" about spreading the wealth around.

Photographic symbolism plays a big part in the politicians manipulation of public opinion but sometimes even here the truth is accidentally exposed. The news showed how Ovomit had the symbols of Christianity covered where he was to speak. But did anyone notice the *Flag of Islam* proudly displayed in the background with equal prominence to the American flag when he spoke of his meeting with the Mid East Dictators?

Nam65-66
"...Yes,the Court has reporters covering it.But the Super Bowl has sport reporters covering it also,but sometimes I like to watch the Super Bowl,know what I mean? And besides,it would only be on one channel,and no one has to watch it."

That's fine, but it nothing like watching normal court proceedings. It is just short oral argument with questions posed by Justices and you can't even really get an idea of how the court is leaning. Lot's of times, Justices will purposefully ask questions in a way that is later proven to be contrary to their positions on the subject.

I just wanted people to know that it is not like CourtTV.

:-)

St Dennis...
...Yes,the Court has reporters covering it.But the Super Bowl has sport reporters covering it also,but sometimes I like to watch the Super Bowl,know what I mean? And besides,it would only be on one channel,and no one has to watch it.

What I would like to see:...
...The legal debates and the memo's the Justice's send to each other, have behind closed doors in the conference room and the politicking they do from their office.That is where the real decisions are made.

However,the very act of televising these things will influence some of the decisions that are being made.After all,we are dealing with Men,not Angels.A few years ago C-SPAN broadcast a recording of the decision of Roe vs Wade made in the conference room.Very interesting.

If you are ever in Washington,try to get in on a guided tour of the Court.You will like it.

all cameras should be outlawed
Then, I'd be more likely to get a job as a courtroom sketch artist.

AT SCOTUS???

The desire for cameras at SCOTUS is almost laughable. Actually, it is laughable.

In Appellate Courts and Supreme Court, the lower court case evidence is not heard. Arguments are made before the Court and questions are posed to counsel by the judges/justices. It might last a few hours, at the very most.

Listening to arguments is not like watching the OJ trial. No testimony, etc.

If you are not a lawyer, an activist, or a party, why would you or anyone want to watch that on television.

The MSM already has Supreme Court reporters, who easily reports what has gone on inside.
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