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Tuesday, November 04, 2008
Thomas Sowell :: Townhall.com Columnist
A "Sound" Economy?
by Thomas Sowell
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The truest thing that Senator John McCain said during this election campaign is what got him into the most trouble: "The economy is sound."

"Sound" does not mean bullet-proof. Nor does it mean that everything is going wonderfully at the moment or that nothing needs to be done.

You may be as sick as a dog from having eaten the wrong thing. But that does not mean that you need to have your arm amputated or to receive massive doses of morphine. In other words, your body may be perfectly sound-- and radical medical treatment can do more lasting damage than your temporary suffering will.

The political left has always known how to exploit temporary economic problems to create lasting institutions reflecting their ideology. The "progressives" did that during the brief time that America was involved in the First World War, less than a year and a half.

In that brief time, they clamped on all kinds of economic controls and even restrictions on free speech that led to landmark Supreme Court cases.

When the Great Depression of the 1930s brought many of those same "progressives" back to power, led by one of the "progressives" from Woodrow Wilson's administration, Franklin D. Roosevelt, they brought the same mindset to government again, calling themselves "liberals," now that the label "progressives" had been discredited by their previous actions.

By the end of the 20th century, "liberals" had again discredited themselves, to the point where they went back to calling themselves "progressives" to escape their past, much as people do when they declare bankruptcy.

Wars, economic crises and other disruptions all provide opportunities for the left to seize on current problems to create enduring changes in the institutions of society. That is what we are witnessing today.

The media have hyped current economic problems to the point where you might think we were heading for a replay of the Great Depression of the 1930s. They have been dying to use the word "recession" but there is a clear definition of recession-- two consecutive quarters of negative growth-- and we have yet to reach that.

If the meaning of words can be changed to suit political convenience, then discussions become an exercise in futility.

Official data show that the output of the economy in the most recent quarter is down-- by less than one-half of one percent-- but at last the media have one of those two quarters required to qualify as a recession.

Whether they will get the other quarter that they need, in order to start using the word "recession" legitimately, is another story. In fact, the data-gathering process is by no means so precise that we can expect the one-half of one percent decline to hold up, since such statistics often get revised later.

It is not just a question of being able to put scare headlines on newspapers or alarmist rhetoric on television. Such things are just the prelude to massive political "change" in fundamentally sound institutions that have for more than two centuries made the American economy the envy of most of the world.

If the left succeeds, it will be like amputating your arm because of a stomach ache.

To add to the painful irony, many of those who are most eager to have a massive government intrusion into the market are among those whose previous intrusions into the market are largely responsible for the current financial crisis.

It was the left-- the "liberals" or "progressives"-- who led the charge to force lending institutions to lend to people whose credit history made them eligible only for "subprime" loans that were risky for both borrowers and lenders.

It started way back in the Carter administration, with the Community Reinvestment Act, and gained momentum over the years with legal threats from Attorney General Janet Reno and thuggery from ACORN, all to force lenders to lend where third parties wanted them to lend. Now we have a bad stomach ache-- and now the left wants to start amputating the market.

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I think
it will be more like cutting our head off than just the arm. We will not recognize the country in 2 years. All the problems that the left's policies will produce will be blamed on Bush.

Republicans cannot handle the Economy
Every Republican Administration for the last 80 years has left America in an economic downturn.
Herbert Hoover-not only missed the Recession, but turned it into a recession.
Eisenhower left office in better shape, but did fail to prevent a severe recession in late '59-60.
Nixon devalued the dollar and left the economy in a malaise that lasted through the Ford years.
Reagan produced 2 recessions.
Bush Sr. produced a sever recession in 92.
Bush Jr. surpassed his dad by creating the recession of 2001-3 and now this recession which could turn into a Depression.

Republicans are fundamentally incompetent financial managers of the economy. Bailing our Wall Street Theives with a $700 Billion windfall for mismanagement will not make anything better and will only impose higher taxes on citizens who did no wrong.

Thanks to Reagan's Deregulation Mania, the thieves had a 25 year free pass to steal and ruin the nation.

Thanks for wrecking the economy again.

Economy should HELP Republicans.
The economy is where all of the media are dead wrong! Even Fox News will say a weak economy will help the Democrats. What’s wrong with those folks???!!! Why give validity to a false view?

Republican economic policies are superior and more successful than Democratic policies. It’s up the media to explain why.

Under GWB we had the 4th longest economic expansion in history of the USA, and some 8 million jobs were created. That's a great accomplishment.

Under Ronald Reagan the 1986 economic act was enacted. That resulted in a more stable economy than was previously the case. Through the middle of 2008, there were only two short recessions after the 1986 act. Three of the four longest expansions occurred after the 1986 act.

The longest economic expansion began under Bush 41. It was extended by the Republican economic acts of 1997.

Republicans definitely have superior economic policies.

It's time for Republicans to make this clear to everybody.

Furthermore, the Democrats have made no significant accomplishments to improve the standard of living for working middle class families in at least 40 years.


Obama's 'Brown Shirts'

Obama's Personal National Security Force

"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set," he said. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded."
Barack Obama Speech July 2, 2008 Colorado Springs CO
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Barack Obama said: 'civilian national security force'.

Civilian - Would NOT include military or other Law Enforcement agencies.
National - Would NOT recognize State Boundaries.
Security - Security for what?
Force - This word usually denotes power and authority.

Why does Barack Obama want a Civilian Security Force?
1) Just as powerful as the Military.
2) Just as strong as the Military.
3) Just as well funded as the Military.

What will Barack Obama have this 'Civilian National Security Force' do?

Help in hurricanes or other disasters? - we already have the state National guard.

Some have said 'The National Guard is in Iraq and Afghanistan' but Barack Obama plans to have them home less than halfway through the Obama administration.


If you think that 'Joe the Plumber' is unduly investigated now wait until the 'Big O' force is in place.

We will begin to hear about people like 'Joe the Plumber' disappearing.



http://hisfacts.blogtownhall.com/2008/10/21/obamas_radical_ and_communist_alliances.thtml

Communist Goals for America
1:37 AM 11/4/2008Communist Goals for America posted into the Congressioanl Record in 1963 - here are some samples.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

Read the entire list at:

http://hisfacts.blogtownhall.com/2008/08/18/communists_45_g oals_in_1963.thtml


"...Moreover, it is ready to strike the first and absolutely necessary blow in a few weeks, that is, to elect Barack Obama and bigger majorities in the House and Senate by a landslide..."

Author: Sam Webb, National Chair,
Communist Party USA
First published 09/27/2008 17:43

Obama Denied Medical Aid to Babies
Babies Crying in Terror
The 'Born Alive' baby who has known the closest contact with another human any human can experience - the baby has been inside another human for months.

The baby has kicked, stretched and some even suck their thumbs. Every need has been met by its human host - shelter, nourishment and safety.

Suddenly one day the baby is attacked with chemicals and poisons.

The baby enters a world bent on death and destruction towards its life.

The baby has never seen a butterfly, puppy, pretty colors or things all babies enjoy or had any human say I love you.

The baby enters the world in excruciating pain and the best trained Medical experts in the world refuse the baby any aid - in a hospital - where all facilities are available and the Doctors have sworn to protect all human life - except his.

The baby is thrown on a cold table and left to die in some hidden place.

The baby struggles to breathe because a human is born with the human will to survive. The baby cries in terror and sobs for help - that never comes - no one cares.

The innocent baby tries to live with every breath and dies alone, abandoned like a used kleenex, never having experienced anything but pain, rejection and hatred.

When the baby finally dies a death of torture and the ultimate rejection any human can receive, it is such a worthless human it doesn't even have a 'Death Certificate' issued that it ever existed.

For a few minutes, hours or days, that baby WAS an American Citizen, that should have received all of the 'Rights and Protections' under law, that any other American Citizen should have.

Michelle and Barack Obama and most Democrats, have done everything humanly possible, to make sure this baby does NOT even receive any pain medication.




Retired Geek, Thank You
I've liked you for a long time, but you really came through tonight.

I'll be waiting to vote, in line with my sister early tomorrow morning. I'm glad I have someone to wait with, and plan to bring a folding chair, which I will gladly give up to anyone who needs it, regardless of their vote (not a proper time to ask, anyway.)

My teenage children understand my support of McCain, but don't feel comfortable talking about it at school.

Even my kids understand the recent comments regarding our Constitution. If we don't have that, what do we have?

Kudos to you, and may the best man (and woman) win!

thanks!
Thanks for usual clear message dr. Sowell. to FIRST in MA, I think you need to research a little bit more to actually make it a valid argument. Are you kidding me?

Axelturfers and Liars
Ah, true words Dr. Sowell but you will not hear anything about CRA or the Dem meddling in F/F from the media. All you will hear from them is the Dem talking point lies of Wall Street greed and deregulation.

Those will also be repeated here today by the gangs of Axelturfers who have appeared this election like a hoard of cockroaches. I see some of them have already been here this morning.

The fact is, everything the Dems do hurts the economy but the MSM has lied about it so often the average voter actually believes the lies.

Retired Geek
You said, "We will begin to hear about people like 'Joe the Plumber' disappearing."

You're wrong. Oh, we'll still disappear. You just won't hear about it.

First in Ignorance
First, your analysis is a completely second rate. But thanks for mentioning Reagan, whose championing of free markets, deregulation, and lower tax rates set the stage for the most profound economic expansion in history.

Rememer the 70's? Ever use the phone, or fly during the Carter administration? Or try to get a job? I did all three. Reagan's deregulation of the telecommunications and airline industries created an explosion in competition, creating jobs and resulting in lower prices.

So you would argue that higher tax rates and more government interference in the marketplace are the cornerstones of a sound economic plan?

Are you really that dim?

Though I'm no fan
of Leonardo, one line he said in "The Aviator" rings true. Howard Hughes' reply to Kate Hepburn's snooty, rich, and liberal family, when they questioned the need to grub for dirty "money" was something like this: "That's because you've never been without it."
That pretty much sums up the attitude towards all those "Joe the plumbers." Stingy red neck not willing to "spread the wealth."
Any stats about the balance of rich liberals to rich conservatives nowadays? Can we all follow the lead of Biden in his voluntary "spreading of wealth." Oh, I know, the government's job is to determine how much of our wealth is "just" enough to dip into.
Better hide the margarine everyone or there'll be nothing left for your toast but lard.

Sound analysis
Nobody cuts through the white noise crap of the Great Illuminati know-nothings like Sowell. Of course the media have over-hyped the economic crisis since they are Obama surrogates. Common sense must prevail.

How much difference
will a tax cut for those who do not pay taxes--newspeak for welfare check--make once electricity rates skyrocket and "it will bankrupt them" if utilities try to build a coal-fired plant?
Do people know that half our power comes from coal?

REMEMBER THIS WHEN YOU VOTE!
"During this political season let's be reminded of these wise words. You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.

You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred. You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence. You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves."

Abraham Lincoln

"Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."

Thomas Jefferson

"Government is like fire, a handy servant but a dangerous monster"

George Washington

"When the people fear the government, there is tyranny,
When the government fears the people, there is Liberty!"

Thomas Jefferson

"It is the first responsibility of every citizen to question authority"

Benjamin Franklin

"The strongest reason for the people to keep and bear arms is,
As a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government"

Thomas Jefferson

"Freedom is a fragile thing, and is never more than one generation away from extinction. It is not ours by inheritance, it must be defended constantly by each generation for it comes only once to a people. Those who have known freedom and then lost it, have never known it again."

Ronald Regan

KEEP THESE WORDS IN MIND WHEN YOU VOTE TODAY AND VOTE TO SAVE THIS REPUBLIC!

Recession
First,
Clinton left a recession for GW - remember the dot com bubble? That was in November 1999.

The economic downturn in 2001 was obviously caused by 9/11 - GW turned it around.

FIRST
Sir or Madam,
If you ever get beyond your high school history class, then write back, please.

memo to First the stool pigeon
Except for his refusal to question what his lib profs and high school teachers are teaching, he is just a misinformed man.

Lincoln nailed it as to what we have at stake here today courtesy of his remarks at Cooper Union. Although many lib profs are teaching their students, falsely and wrongly, that Lincoln was a liberal, he is but one of many Lincoln quotes that proves them wrong.

From the Cooper Union speech "What is conservatism? Is it not adherence to the old and tried, against the new and untried? We stick to, contend for, the identical old policy on the point in controversy which was adopted by "our fathers who framed the Government under which we live;" while you with one accord reject, and scout, and spit upon that old policy, and insist upon substituting something new. True, you disagree among yourselves as to what that substitute shall be. You are divided on new propositions and plans, but you are unanimous in rejecting and denouncing the old policy of the fathers."


Economy
Thank you Mr. Sowell. I especially liked reply #3 Edna E. To bad the youth of America probably have never heard of these people.

Poor First...
You guys should take it easy on First. S/he can't help it--it's a Massachusetts thing, something in the water, maybe. Thus: Kerry, Kennedy, Frank. Need one say more?

And, yes, Thomas Sowell is a national treasure. Wish he would become a commentator on FOX.

Thank you Dr Sowell
To First in MA ---- Go back and read real economic history instead of relying upon the Down Stream (Sludge & Sewage filled) Media (DSM).

If Obama wanted to practice his "Spread the Wealth" mantra he should have shared the over $600 million he raised for his campaign, with lesser candidates such as Barr, Nader etc. (PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS)

Sowell Dumb as as they come
ditto

Another Great Article!!
Thank you, Dr. Sowell.

Amazing
Dr. Sowell,
I am truly amazed by how many ignorant people actually are able to read your articles and burden us with their unintelligible drivel to demonstrate it for us.

As Always... Bulls Eye!
The wise words of my grandmother come to mind, “Be Careful Not To Throw Out The Baby With The Bath Water” she used to say, let’s hope that on November 4th, Americans heed her words.

Great article!
First,

Did you read the article? I doubt it! Vote McCain-Palin! Wake up America!

The tax man
For a married family, filing jointly and earning $75,000 a year, this increase will be $3,074. For those making just $50,000, this increase will be $1,512. Despite Senator Obama's claim, even struggling American families making just $25,000 a year will see a tax increase -- they'll pay $715 more...
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/senator_obamas_four_ tax_increa.html
=========

Just a reminder - about the Obama lie on tax. He will raise your tax by allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire!

Great article as usual,
the posting about Obama's Brown shirts really scares me. Perhaps it is because I am a product of the 2ND world war and Learned first hand how Hitler's Germany came to power. I am not equating Obama with Hitler. But history is repeating itself. First, there was a group of affluent people to blame for societies problems, there was the Hitler Youth, there was civil national security forces, There was a strong propaganda machine subverting the truth.
There was world apathy, that thought appeasement was better than confrontation.

I thought this could never happen in America, Jewish Liberals over 70 talk to your disciples

Great article as usual,
the posting about Obama's Brown shirts really scares me. Perhaps it is because I am a product of the 2ND world war and Learned first hand how Hitler's Germany came to power. I am not equating Obama with Hitler. But history is repeating itself. First, there was a group of affluent people to blame for societies problems, there was the Hitler Youth, there was civil national security forces, There was a strong propaganda machine subverting the truth.
There was world apathy, that thought appeasement was better than confrontation.

I thought this could never happen in America, Jewish Liberals over 70 talk to your disciples

Simple clarity.

Today will reveal one thing, and one thing only.

We will either elect an American president... or we will elect an American idol.

If it's the former, America will remain the beacon of freedon and prosperity... and one which our world so desperately needs.

If it's the latter, the mis-guided, the mis-informed and the under-informed will find out, much sooner than later... that their choice has cost them dearly.

So vote YOUR family today... and keep the government out of our lives.


A "Sound" Economy?
"If the meaning of words can be changed to suit political convenience, then discussions become an exercise in futility." That's the crux of Nobama's presidential campaign.

Besides B.O.'s infantile, almost condescending smoke and mirrors rhetoric, he keeps stating, as if fact, that eight years of Bush’s economic policy is what got the country in the current economic crisis. “Balderdash! and poppycock!” as Benjamin Franklin would say. Nobody’s hands are clean on this issue but the democrats have more than their share of soiled paws. We all know that high risk home loans are the main reason we are in this mess and who were the primary enablers of legislation that forced banks to make these loans? You guessed it, democrats like Rep. Franks and Sen. Dodd. Nobama was advocating this kind of legislation for years before he even colluded in politics with the disreputable democrat mafioso. Now this guy wants to fix the economy?!? Hello? Is there any sanity left on the planet? If so, I’m going there!

Finally, Change! Well, Maybe.
By the end of the day we should know whether this country is under complete Democrat control or not.

If it is, constituencies of the Democratic Party will no longer be able to blame the Republican Party for anything.

According them, violence, poverty, liberty, inequalities, wars, poor education, high deficits, discrimination, corporate crime, you name it, are the fault of the Republican conservative ideology.

We should see dramatic utopia in our society within 4 years.

We should have peace, prosperity for all, superior education, great healthcare, crime should virtually disappear. We will be able to once again walk the streets in New York City and Philadelphia, Chicago, and Memphis without fear.

Our children will not have to fear perverts any longer.

Ah! I can’t wait. Sin will finally be eradicated.

Peace on earth and good will toward man.

FINALLY, CHANGE!

Discussions
Dear Mr. Sowell,
With likely Obamessiah voters, discussions have already "become an exercise in futility." There is no reason, no rationality, not objectivity: only a mindless, irrational set of reflexes that are not much above the simple reflexes of a crawfish. How many Obamessiah voters can tell you what his position is on post-birth abortion? How many can tell you his position on R&D of weapons systems? Their own VP candidate can't even tell you who was in office at the beginning of the Great Depression!

Lots of things are likely to happen regardless of who becomes President: there'll be a correction in borrowing: people will begin to save instead of spending; oil prices will decline - (as they already have) - because a parasite needs a host, and a dead host doesn't usually help the parasite (unless it's a t. gondii parasite) Spending may slow, and that may spell "recession," but many people will do what my parents did in the Great Depression: they'll survive.

We need to hone those survival instincts, anyway, instead of listening to the hysterical left practicing their Alinsky tunes.

Besides, conservatives are smart enough and energetic enough to to be "community organizers," too.

firefox22 @ 10:08 AM
Firefox wrote that if the Socialist-Democrats win the congress and the presidency, they won't "be able to blame the Republican Party for anything."

That's wrong. The Socialist-Democrat party will continue to blame Republicans for everything and anything, even if it occurs after January 2009. It's the nature of the beast.

Socialist-Democrats historically have never taken responsibility for anything. Remember Vietnam? The S-D's call it "Nixon's War", even though the combat units fighting it had been there from early 1965 to January 1969, all under LBJ's command.

The S-D's won't taken blame for anything that occurs after January. They'll simply lie and blame it on the Republicans. The S-D's want to turn the GOP into Emmanuel Goldstein. I wouldn't be surprised if Keith Olberman starts a new segment on his program called "Minute of Hate" where his loyal followers scream epithets against the Republicans.

Facts
At 54 years old, I have been unemployeed 2 times in my life.
Once during Jimmy Carters administration, when interest rates went to 21% and the housing market went away.
The other time during Bill Clinton when he defunded the military and many lost their jobs from support services.
Since George Bush has been in office, I've had the opportunity to become a small business owner, and actually make enough profit after the government red tape to support me and my family.
Question: Are you better off than you were two years ago when Congress changed hands to Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid policies?

Heil Der Fuhrer Obama!
Sorry, just practicing.

Question for the America-hating fascists...I mean Obama voters:

After Obama "skyrockets" (his word, not mine) your electricity bills by "bankrupting" (again, his word, not mine) half of this nation's power plants, who will pay your electricity bill? I've got an arsenal and enough ammunition to invade a small country that says it ain't gonna be me!

Obama and the Failed Bush Policies
In 2000, Barack Obama couldn't afford a hotel room at the Democrat National Convention - his credit card was denied.

In 2008, Barack Obama is a multi-millionaire running for President with hundreds of millions of donated campaign dollars.

Seems like Bush's economic policies (and capitalism) worked just fine for Barack Obama. Why does Obama want to deny the rest of us the opportunity he had?

Mr. Sowell
It's reassuring to know there are people out there that get it. But how do we stop it?

Know your enemies?

IN the Humanist Manisfesto I (1933) Number 13 on their list of things to do. The control of institutions and associations is the purpose and program of the religion of humanism. Certainly traditional religious institutions must be reconstituted as rapidly as experience allows.(paraphrased to get rid of wordiness)

Number 14 on their to do list. Profit-motivated society has been found to be inadequate "radical change" in methods, controls, and motives must be instituted. A socialized economic order "must be" established.

What institutions haven't they taken over?Education and the Media, Financial Institutions and the Law.

How do we get this power back. We have been shoved into the corner on the gameboard. We don't seem to have any moves left.

Jim Wallis and his Emergent Sojourners movement is now in the process of decieving the Evangelical Churches. So much so that my pastor did not even dare to whisper a prayer for marriage and the unborn this past Sunday. Much to my shame.

If the Church does not have the courage to stand up before believers and condemn what God condemns and bless what God blesses what good is the Church. Christian men without balls. Afraid of loosing false members and money.

First...read the entire article
"It started way back in the Carter administration, with the Community Reinvestment Act, and gained momentum over the years with legal threats from Attorney General Janet Reno and thuggery from ACORN, all to force lenders to lend where third parties wanted them to lend. Now we have a bad stomach ache-- and now the left wants to start amputating the market."

It's NOT the Republicans as Sowell pointed out quite well.

Since Socialism cannot work.
They will need to find scapegoats. Who's it going to be? You or me.

On the Community Reinvestment Act
The CRA only applies to the primary market, banks that take commercial deposits. Nearly 3/4 of subprime loans were generated in the secondary market by investment banks and mortgage companies. In fact, subprime loans in the primary market have a lower forclosure rate precisely because they are more highly regulated.

No doubt politicians of both stripes were enablers, but the real problem here was on Wall Street where deregulation allowed the bundling, derivatives, and credit swaps that infected the world wide money market.

Projected recession?
I think the media are projecting the recession they are experiencing -- readership and revenue have been down every quarter for the past four or five years -- with what America is going through. We've all seen it before: someone feels unsafe in their neighborhood, so America is unsafe; some bigots feel racial hatred, so America is considered racist.

Life is hard on them, many are losing their jobs, so America must be made to feel the way they do. This is especially jarring when you can chart the continuous growth of almost all sectors of the economy over the past decades and see their income and readership lines going consistently downward. Classic case of projection.

Change of Heart
The only hope for America to return to a country governed by the people is for the people to embrace God through Jesus Christ.

The problems eroding our nation are indicative of the hard heart many Americans have towards Jesus Christ.

You can elect a king or a hundred kings, but until the "King of Kings" is first in the lives of Americans you are just spitting into the wind.

People who hate God are their own worst enemies. Today America wants a king to put his boot on their necks so they won't have to be so afraid of life.

You have no idea what is coming your way to make you more fearful. The "Prince of Peace" is titled so for a reason. All else are liars.

Don't We Wish !!!!!
Don't we wish there was One racial Socialist in America living or dead that was this Smart and had 10 % of T. Sowell's ''Common sense " and understanding of Basic # 101 Economics .
But then again if he did know all that he wouldn't be a Socialist now would he ? Duh !

Two Economies In Conflict
The "economy" in the traditional sense may be chugging along okay, but the economic indicators of the "government economy" are bad and getting worse. Trouble is, neither candidate mentioned it all these months and neither did the corrupt media ask the questions of: How are we ever going to pay back the staggering national debt?; and, What happens when other governments cease being willing to loan us the money to pay our nation's bills?


Cicero - 55 BC
The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt
should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and
controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest
Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on
public assistance.”

Cicero - 55 BC

Don't We Wish !!!!!
Don't we wish there was One racial Socialist in America living or dead that was this Smart and had 10 % of T. Sowell's ''Common sense " and understanding of Basic # 101 Economics .
But then again if he did know all that he wouldn't be a Socialist now would he ? Duh !

Sowell Fifth rate economist.
Sowell and your Neo-Con like PHil Gramm can come to Chicago and Party!!!


Bryce1
The banks that made the initial mortgage loans to unqualified borrowers: they were the recipients of the coercion applied by the Clinton administration.

Stop spinning it. The Socialist-Democrat Party used Reno's DOJ to force primary lenders into making high-risk loans. In order to protect themselves, those lenders bundled up the mortgages and sold them.

The Socialist-Democrat Party continues to lie about the problem, blaming it on Republicans' "deregulation". The problem was with the Obama-Dodd-Frank crime ring that facilitated unqualified borrowers being allowed to get mortgages that were then passed off to Fannie and Freddie. The mortgages were the underlying "value" for securities, which went south when the unqualified borrowers started missing mortgage payments. As the secuities lost value, so did the Fannie/Freddie etc bottom lines. Of course, REP Frank (Dem-MA) continued to say there was NO PROBLEM.

Stop blaming Republicans for the Socialist-Democrats' failures.

Well Put Dr. Sowell...
Certainly hope this Country can keep it that way.
I understood what McCain meant when he spoke.
He nor Palin have said anything that has not been twisted by the media & the opposition.

So many in the Black community think their dream is coming true today? (Just received a note from one) that finally they are electing a black president??? This is to be God's Will???

Obama would not get the time of day from someone like Dr. Martin Luther King. He would never have agreed with this man's beliefs on abortions! Also many other idea's of Obama. Like surrounding himself with the criminal elements of society! Never! Never!

I voted early!

GO McCAIN-PALIN!


bryce1
"The CRA only applies to the primary market, banks that take commercial deposits."

Apparently you slept through when the walls came down between commercial and investment banks.

Al -Subject: Sowell Fifth rate economist
Name one thing Obama has done to qualify for president of the US, except RUN for president. And don't respond with what he has said or with what McCain has or hssn't done, tell us what Obama HAS done.

bryce
You dems just don't get it. What started sub-prime lending? The CRA bill. Subprime lending had never happened like it did after the 95 version of the bill that Clinton signed. Without that bill there is no subprime lending going on!

Once some banks started doing it, others had to do the same to keep up. Caused prices to skyrocket, and bada bing bada boom, housing bubble. The CRA single handedly created the housing bubble. How it collapsed was for many reasons. But, the CRA bill caused it.

Our economy is sound. Just look at how the massive banking crisis has affected it. Pretty resilient eh? Though once Obama and his ilk take over energy and raise our taxes, it will become less stable. Instead of having a wealthy class, middle class and poor class, we will be left with only the poor class after Obama is done with us. The zero sum economy is false and it will be shown. Anyone think Obama may create a recession on purpose to blame on Bush?

Yo First
What planet are you on? FDR took the poor economic policies of Hoover and put them on steroids, causing the Depression to be more protracted than it needed to be. Businesses were punished by forcing them to continue paying dividends to shareholders, when they couldn't afford to do so. He went further in raising taxes, which took much needed capital, which in turn prevented businesses from keeping many of their current employees.

Unfettered liberal economic policies can be illustrated by looking at the old Soviet Union. No country has ever taxed its way into prosperity. As much as libs hate what they call the "trickle down theory", their tax and spend policies are bringing the reality of "poverty up". That's where the business owner's taxes are raised and he/she can't increase revenues enough to overcome the loss and has to lay people off. Read Dr. Sowell's book "Basic Economics". It's so simple, even.....

Sound Economy
McCain is absolutely correct. The bail out is a D.C. Dem power play to bail out the Barney Frank buddys and the Chris Dodd sweethearts. I have been a Bank Director for over 25 years and the only problem that I see nationally stems from the Democratic propaganda i.e. "worst economic crisis since the great depression". B.S. The only problem well managed banks are seeing is the lack of loan demand caused by the great lie that money is not available for loans. 10,800 banks in the U.S. Less than 20 have failed in this "great economic crisis". Doesn't anyone think anymore? or has our Lib educational system eliminated rational thoughtful analysis.

Economic Fundamentals are Sound
McCain is absolutely correct. The bail out is a D.C. Dem power play to bail out the Barney Frank buddys and the Chris Dodd sweethearts. I have been a Bank Director for over 25 years and the only problem that I see nationally stems from the Democratic propaganda i.e. "worst economic crisis since the great depression". B.S. The only problem well managed banks are seeing is the lack of loan demand caused by the great lie that money is not available for loans. 10,800 banks in the U.S. Less than 20 have failed in this "great economic crisis". Doesn't anyone think anymore? or has our Lib educational system eliminated rational thoughtful analysis.

To make the economy sound:
We the people pay all taxes, and we are the only ultimate source of all tax revenue. Regardless where government initially collects the money, all tax money ultimately comes from us, the people, even though business has to pay thousands or millions of dollars at one time, and get it back from us one dollar at a time.
Since we the people are the one and only source of all tax revenue:
There should be only one tax to collect all tax revenue.
It should be a single, simple, fair, direct, graduated, individual, full-income tax levied on living persons for each level of government: One Tax and Done.
The best thing that government can do to help the country, the people, and even government, is to repeal all of the many hundreds, or thousands of existing taxes, fees, and charges. These taxes are the federal deficit. These taxes are the high price of everything. These tax eliminations are spending cuts. Every tax that is eliminated is a tax that we the people no longer have to pay. These taxes are the difference between the price we pay for health care and everything else, and the price we would pay if these taxes were repealed. Eliminating these taxes will remove them from the price paid for everything by everyone, including government.
One Tax and Done will provide many benefits to all, even government:
One Tax and Done will reduce the price paid for everything by one-third, While Democrats have 47 Trillion Dollars in new taxes written in bills awaiting action to quadruple the tax burden of all Americans, except for tax-exempt rich liberals.

The economy is UNSOUND
In spite of what Dr. Sowell may say.

Our nation is, at the lowest estimate, $65 trillion in debt. That doesn't count the debts being run up by state & local governments or individuals. That's just the federal government. Other estimates put the figure at somewhere in the neighborhood of $115 trillion.

Nor do these figures include the trillions in private pension plans that the government insures -- many of which are either insolvent or on the verge of insolvency.

The government has spent $2.85 trillion in the last couple of months to rescue Wall Street. This $2.85 trillion is only the uttermost tip of the iceberg. They have printed money like it is going out of style to generate this $2.85 trillion -- they will have to print much, much more.

A sound economy cannot be based on debt. We are at the edge of the abyss. Dr. Sowell is doing us no favors by telling us, "Don't worry, be happy."

DavidMac
This country will be decisively worse or decisively better. They will get credit for either.

Any and all legislation that they present can be passed without the Republican Party.

Success or failure begins and ends with the Democratic Party.

The Democrats didn’t want to handle the bail out on there own because they knew that they would have to take responsibility.

If I were a member of congress, I would vote present, with objection, on every piece of legislation presented.

There’s to many models of Obama’s ideology to view anything he does with successful outcome.

The only government run healthcare program that appears to have any degree of success is in Australia, and they are debt free, at least until that adopted healthcare.

Look up the requirements for immigration to Australia. You will find it interesting.

Al in IL
Reply # 51...

You will not be feeling so smug when night fall comes.
If you are celebrating tonight in Chicago you
LOOSE. The entire Nation looses.

Be afraid, be very afraid...America will no longer be a place the world flocks to.

Are you brainwashed?

While many young men & women are fighting the bloody Islamics you are delighting in wanting to embrace one as your "Commander in Chief!"

Go study some good history books. To you that means dated books the new ones are not telling it truthfully!

Your insulting remarks about Dr. Sowell are totally unwarranted.

~~~GO~~~~ McCAIN-PALIN~~~~

Yo Al
While those on the left may have some degree of intellect, it's useless without the logic and reason to give it substance. If you guys are slamming someone like Dr. Sowell, who is one of America's greatest thinkers, it's clear the left is incapable of critical thinking.

Interesting
I earnestly believe that the goal of the "progressives" is to create an environment in this country, economically, socially, legally, morally, that will be so abhorrent that the common man will be ripe for a Socialist/Fascist government.

When I was born in the fifties, the country was prosperous, clean, self-reliant, mostly law abiding, and relatively drug free. Most couples who had children were married, children were respectful of adults, there was little graffiti, and few if any real gangs. We were expected to learn and held accountable for our actions. America held a position of scientific preeminence, manufacturing self sufficiency and rising market share.

Because:
The left Hated the conformity of marriage...
The left Hated the control of a woman's body...
The left Hated to see children disciplined....
The left Hated the mind closed without drugs...
The left Hated the way schools taught.....
The left Hated telling people to blend in...
The left Hated immigration accountability...
The left Hated to see people compete...

In short the Left Hated all the tested traditional values that shaped and transformed the human animal from a state of barbarity. If they didn't intend to destroy the integrity of the social fabric, they have done a pretty good job, without intention. In many ways we have ceased to be a country united, rather we are divided by race, perceived economic position, geographic location and radically different political views of the world.

But as someone said in an earlier post..look at the popularity of TV in general, Jerry Springer and the National Enquirer! What hope do we have when the government largess funds the Democrat's voting block?

Corbett
"Our nation is, at the lowest estimate, $65 trillion in debt. That doesn't count the debts being run up by state & local governments or individuals. That's just the federal government. Other estimates put the figure at somewhere in the neighborhood of $115 trillion."

Not true. The debts you speak of are in the bank sector. That has nothing to do with our government. Derivities are what you are name. So that has nothing to do with the federal government. Though I admit that is an eye opener, the debt is circular and hence not precisely the kind of debt we are talking about.

Black Panthers???
Black Panthers in PA?
Surprise, Surprise, Now a whole new generation can become alarmed and tormented by this group. Why are they not on the Terrorist List?
That is what they do terrorise people.
They do not just intimidate they are known for killing & destruction also!
More friends of Obama's no doubt about it.

~~~Go~~~McCain-Palin~~~

Change we can believe in!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCeD1RcJjAg

Barack Obama's pals in the Black Panthers intimidating voters in Philly!

Welcome to Obamerica!!!

Black Panthers
In PA threatening voters at the polls with night sticks. Just on the news.

First in MA is an Astroturfer!
astroturfing: n.

1. The use of paid shills to create the impression of a popular movement, through means like letters to newspapers from soi-disant ‘concerned citizens’, paid opinion pieces, and the formation of grass-roots lobbying groups that are actually funded by a PR group (AstroTurf is fake grass; hence the term). See also sock puppet, troll.

Don Juan, John, lone and their ilk are ASTROTURFERS!

They are paid by liberal oganizations to discourage conservative voters and make us stay home on Nov 4.

This is typical Leftist Psy-Ops started by Unca Joe Stalin. DON"T LET THEM WIN!

Ignore the astroturfers.
Ignore the astroturfers.
Ignore the astroturfers.

David Axelrod hired thousands of lib trolls to hang out on sites like townhall to suppress the Republican vote!!

I don't know about you but it Pissses me off when someone tries to Manipulate me!

Want Proof??

An Obama campaign worker spills the beans

http://www.redstate.com/diaries/anonymous_14/2008/oct/30/wh at-you-were-never-intended-to-know-in-this/


And another


http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/31/three-things-the-o bamedia-will-do-to-depress-republican-turnout-and-help-obam a/

Confessions of an Obama Troll

http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/30/confession-of-an-o bama-blogger-by-sarah-p-as-posted-to-this-site/


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We MUST defeat Obama before he defeats America from the inside.

Nothing is Inevitable, Stand up and FIGHT!
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This says it all right here!
Here's all you need to know about this election:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI

The difference between Republicans and Democrats:

Republicans go to work to earn the money to pay for their mortgage and gas.

Democrats sit at home and pick their nose and eat it all day long while letting jackbooted thugs in black ninja outfits carrying German sub machine guns intimidate other people into handing over the money to pay for their mortgage and gas.

If You Doubt
Where this mortgage crisis really came from, or at least, how it was pushed forward after Carter started it-do a search at the New York Times on the Fannie Mae headline dated September 30, 1999.

I have to marvel at Clinton being able to sleep at night while he lets George Bush take the wrap for all his blunders.

That, along with the manipulation of the Market by billionaires Soros, Gates, Buffet- timed to further destroy Bush and Republican credibility in the public eye and get Obama elected- plus the media's constant drooling over Obama and slandering McCain-Palin-and here we are.

Ok geniuses
Please explain how CRA mandates on 1/4 of US subprime loans caused the government of Iceland to go into bankruptcy?

If, as many here suggest, the CRA was at the root of this mess, then we would be experiencing a larger version of the S&L crisis which was limited to the American mortgage industry.

The reason we have a worldwide financial meltdown is a combination of deregulation, and the introduction of exotic financial schemes.

Lastly, it is absurd to suggest that banks were 'forced' to lower their lending standards. Many here have apparently forgotten the blizzard of advertising practically begging consumers to 'make lenders compete' for our business. The reason? The derivative schemes generated profits through the bundling and selling of mortgages as securities, not from holding the loan to maturity. Consequently, the financial needed a constant influx of new mortgages, hence the lowering of standards.


bryce1
You really cannot analyze can you? Did you even read my response? Your post was basically a repost of your previous post in which I replied exactly why CRA caused it. Once one does it, the other have to keep up. CRA forced the first to do it. Its not even worth trying to prove what has been proven to a troll who is unwilling to learn or admit defeat.

America On The Verge of A Nightmare!
On my former radio talk show during the 90s, I would ask the American people, "Is America on the verge of the American nightmare?" Well, I do believe that the "liberals" or "progressives" who duped the American people by dumping their corruption regarding the economic crisis and 911 on the laps of Bush and McCain will diminish our freedoms by forcing more corporations to down size - reduce benefits - and give more work to fewer Americans and hire more illegal or legal immigrants who will work fewer hours for less money! America has been high jacked and lied to and didn't even bother to watch Congresswoman Waters and Raines tell the Republican investigative Senate that they needed to back off basically - because there were NO PROBLEMS WITH FANNIE MAE OR FREDDIE MAC so they could promote Obama who will now come after you and tax you to death so he can give to those he chooses to redistribute your money that you must work hard for which is oppression, suppression that will lead America into a Depression - If Obama gets elected - this is my prediction - I hope I'm wrong, but my radio shows on tape are right on so far - and I shall go vote now for McCain-Palin who I know have a legal U.S. birth certificate and never denouced their American citizenship to become an Indonesian citizen and like Obama - hasn't provided the American people or a court of law or the Justice Department proof of citizenship!

bryce1
Yes - CKHustler is correct - banks were essentially forced to give loaners to people who before were considered risky. If you want to know how, I suggest you search things like

- CRA score banks
- bank "CRA commitment"
- redlining

What happened was that the banks complied (against their best interest) and new segment of the population (high risk) was now in the mortgage market - demand for houses increased and prices went up. The banks had to get creative with the loans because alot of these people couldnt handle the payment of conventional loans. Once those types of loans were available - people who didnt even have to use subprime loans also ended up going subprime because - simply put they could afford more house. An entire new market was created that had never been there before - and everyone (banks) was trying to get in on the action. It was good while housing was on the rise...as it snowballed and people ended up buying houses at very inflated prices.

But - the housing market burst and prices plummeted. The interest rates on the subprime loans started increasing (sometimes from like 4 to 12%) and people couldnt refinance because their house was no longer worth what they owed on the mortgage (You cant refinance 300K when the house is only worth 225K). They could no longer afford the payment. Boom. The people holding the mortgages basically had a rather large % of their assets now worth zero.

Couple all of this with the fact that Fannie and Freddie at one point had bought about about 48% of those loans... and other factors such as mark-to-market accounting of assets for investment banks etc...- and we watched an entire industry collapse.

All the hate
I am afraid some right-wing zealot will end up putting a bullet between his eyes, and that will be good for no one.

All the Freddie and Fannie
and CRAs are still LAW and the people that ruined the ec.--Barney "Everything is fine with me" Frank and Chris "I was happy with my mort. deal" Dodd--are still in place.

A Dem. was just on the news last week reminding financials that they still must make these bad loans to prove they are not racists or bigots.

So, the $700 B$ll$ons that was just dumped will be needed again shortly to provide MORE capital to co.'s that are still losing money due to bad loans and rotten credit risks.

If Mac should win, Dem. Cong. or not, he should get those laws modified as he tried to do in 2005 and was ignored by Reps., as well as Dems.

Vote McCain/Palin while you still have the chance and save us from the O depression and marxist dictatorship.


The destruction
Look, no one is pointing at the fact that Obama’s tracking poll numbers were down. Lo and behold our democratic Congress return to work and the economy tanked, they blamed Bush ad refuse to admit a roll in the destruction. Then suddenly Obama and the liberal are our saving grace to fix the economy that they purposely chose to destroy. Can it all be just a coincidence. I don't believe in coincidences.

first
What I infer from your post today(#2) is that you have not been doing too well for yourself since IKE left office.

Those President's terms of office were pretty prosperous times for this country. Hmmmm....,maybe you have been living in a recession of your own making.

Well..., at least you've lived a long life, since you were working during the Eisenhower administration.


Irisheyes2C
Thats why he named Biden VP. Insurance policy. hehe

Asperin?
Dr. Sowell your article is so "Stupid" it made my head "Ache". If you had called the Senator, the day after he made his referenced remarks,well. I would tell you what Mr. McCain should have said but the polls are still open. I am amazed, that you a real Conservative, did not help with economic policies. Oh,I am sorry,you were not asked. Theodore Roosevelt was a "Progressive"! Also,the "Meltdown" (9-15-08) was not caused by the "Liberals", ask Jack Kemp? Do you have any "Real" facts???

killer
"I would tell you what Mr. McCain should have said but the polls are still open."

Are you trying to say that your remark would change votes? Are you really that self-centered? People can hardly read you without laughing! I have stopped posting on my quotes blog due to so many trolls that we could see hundreds of stupid comments on a daily basis. I think I may have to add that one though. I got a good chuckle out of that one.

Elections, Hussein style.
Other than their name and political ideology, what does Barack Hussein Obama and Saddam Hussein have in common?

How about the use of armed thugs to make sure everyone "votes correctly"?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGbKHyGuHU

Welcome to Obamerica!

The truth
spoken in the time of elections is sure to get your opponent elected. Our electorate can no longer stand the truth. The majority seem to want to be told that the sky is falling due to the opposition party and that they are here to save the day. As was written in an earlier article, facts don't matter. So mentioning them is sure political suicide.
God bless America. We surely could use some help.

beowulfe
"Heil Der Fuhrer Obama! "

Haha...I was cracking up over that one! And tru dat on armed thugs!

Killer: Dr, Sowell is not only
highly intelligent, but he speaks to what he real does know after so many books that were written by him.

When he graduated high school, he joined the marines and served his time. After returning home, he received both a masters and a Ph.D. Your only problem with him should be that you don't agree with his political and economic stance.

Watched a video of him this A.M. and the one thing he stately most firmly was: If Iran develops nuclear weapons, the door is closed and there is no going back.

When Clinton Ran for Office
When Clinton ran for President the first time against Bush Sr. the media constantly insisted that the economy was terrible and getting worse. The day AFTER the election, one headline caught my eye: "We were wrong; the economy is doing great."

This is typical of the MSM. They want to influence the people into voting the way they want. And ever since, I have a terrible time believing a thing they say about the economy in election years.

Republican poll watchers out in PA
Looks like the election in PA will come down to how many BO votes are needed in inner city Philadelphia and I would not bet against that city's Dem machine not being able to insure the state go BO!

Chicago style politics (a BO specialty) and Philadephia have alot in common. Vote early vote often and get out the graveyard vote.

Can anyone who supports the union thugs full empolyment act aka collecting signature cards for union elections really want a fair secret ballot vote? BO and the Dems hate the very idea!

Beware of change.
Some things never change. This is particularly true today when history is to be made based on some campaign pledge of change. Obama promotes change and parses his words saying he chooses to use the term "progressivism" over “liberalism.” But we can go back to Woodrow Wilson and his disciple FDR to learn progressivism isn't new. It isn't changed. It is failed economics. The idea that government can better spread the wealth isn't new. Hitler, Mao, Castro and Chavez brought change, but, would any of us welcome their change?

They all have at least one thing in common with Obama; a deep down hatred of capitalism and a belief that revenge against the British, Chiang Kai Shek, America , and George Bush is change for the better.

What is happening today is not a change for a new world but a return to a failed one. It is socialism, pure and simple. We had a taste of progressivism with Clinton and now Obama delivers the coup de gras.

When will we ever learn not to elect children from dysfunctional families? They become chameleons, continuously polling to appeal to the masses and then like their father turn on us. Beware of change. It comes with unintended consequences.


Mr. Sowell I would cast a vote..
Mr. Thomas Sowell is so sensible he makes my head spin due to the nonsense sputtered daily around me. I respect this man. Now if he were running for president ... well you catch my drift. Of course I would then still be a racist as I would be voting for an "Uncle Tom". The hilarity of this election season is only offset by the abject depression in my soul over what the people of this country are most likely to do today. Argument has been replaced by charisma. Truth has been replaced by hype. Excitement is what the masses want- and oh boy does Obama bring excitement. For those old enough to remember- there was a scene in the movie "The Wild One" where Marlon Brando is asked what he was a rebelling against and he says "what do you got?" This generation has given in completely to feelings and intuition of a sort. They don't think- they spout off slogans and platitudes as their leader does and believe in the rhetoric whether any substancial thought is involved. The history of this kind of nonsense is replete (but who reads or needs history- "That's just old white men") and was present in Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union- newspeak was a replacement for the news. All news was censored by Pravda (fairness doctrine anyone?) and here we are today living in a society which is built upon the blood and sweat of men and women who courageously fought against all odds for freedom and we are so willing to cast it to the wind. --Today at lunch I sat with my boss and the subject of the economy and politics came up and he stated "I just want to have my retirement" and I stated "I would give up my entire 401k and retirement if I knew my kids (two of which are 3 and 5) could enjoy the freedoms I have enjoyed" - I saw him visibly shutter. CS Lewis talked of "Men without chests" and I think he represents what a large segment of this country has become "Men without chests".

Voting
I wrote in Thomas Sowell today on my ballot.
I feel like my vote counted as much as any of my liberal friends. And at least I can say I voted my conscience- and for a better candidate.

h20skier
Oi! You are so very right. They have already started! Seat belts, please. The roller coaster will be rough. I predict that it won't be long, maybe that 6 months Biden predicted for a major crisis, before the media turn on Obama. Mark my words.

Dr. Sowell should be required reading in high school. He is one of the few true thinkers of our time.

Killer?
Who the Heck uses the pseudo name Killer and expect to be taken seriously? And please stop writing, your syntax or lack of it is giving me a headache.
Could you explain what this meant, it appears to an incoherent rambling...


"I am amazed, that you a real Conservative, did not help with economic policies. Oh,I am sorry,you were not asked. Theodore Roosevelt was a "Progressive"! Also,the "Meltdown" (9-15-08) was not caused by the "Liberals", ask Jack Kemp? Do you have any "Real" facts??? "


To equate Theodore Roosevelt with Barack Obama is like comparing a Hurricane with a fart.

Clivesdad
Thank for a thoughtful and moving post. Everything you talked about I have thought about but you worded with much more finesse.

I'll guess we'll know in the AM what we have. But if nothing else, I have concluded that so many of the parents today need to instill the idea they we all need to do things for ourselves and not expect "Big Daddy" to take care of us.


Bryce (Little TH Boy)
Hey Bryce! "STFU" we don't want to hear your incessant whining. Get out of the basement, go outside, breathe some fresh air, talk to some real people. Now go play on the freeway..........

Except For Having To Give Trillions
Except for the Fed and the Treasury having to give trillions to the Wall Street crooks, ya, our economy is sound. Yuppers, just completely peaches and cream and a lot of rich brokers feeding off the fat of the land.

Obama supporters? I am now...
scratching my left cheek with my middle finger and aiming right at you...

Not because I am an arrogant PRIG like Obama is, who cleverly (like a 6th grader might do)gave both Hillary and McCain the "finger"

but because ... you DESERVE it...

It will be America the beautiful
McCain message may have been simple and straight
forward and not prescripted for a targeted audiences forever changing. Obama change was his message to the target audience, he was elegant and always on point. Script will not work when the country is under attack as Sen. Biden reminded us.The banking fiasco will too
pass just as did the savings and loans scandal.

Up To The Minute News
Thanks for the common sense, Dr. Sowell.

Can someone tell me why, in a nation with the educational resources we have, there are so many sheep? Who are these people that are voting for "Change"? I read how horrible things are, folks losing their jobs, being thrown out of their homes....Where?

The stores are crammed full of people, mostly buying cheap, imported items which they don't need! You should drive through my neighborhood and see what the garages look like when the doors are open!

Full restaurants, sold out ballgames, planes cris-crossing the country. The rich display their wealth in huge homes, with a room for every human function, and the poor talk on cell phones and watch large screen TV's.

ALRIGHT!, maybe I exaggerate, but you get the picture. A few weeks ago you would have thought we were on the edge of fire and brimstone. We had to pass a bailout package or we would all be eating dirty carrots and screaming "As God is my witness!"

If John McCain would have refused to vote for the bailout package as written, and called for calm and DR. SOWELL'S brand of common sense, he would be winning today in a landslide

Tim
Tim, absolutely right. Here in Tennessee with unemployment the worst in 20 years, same picture.

No doubt that people have been hurt, but no soup lines.

The gas prices are what are puzzling me. The price of fuel has hurt me personally because I own a small farm. That's been going on for 2 years. The Democrats have refused to drill, pass any alternative fuel legislation, and crude prices are being manipulated by someone. I’m always told different stories and that it’s a complex problem.

All I know is that when the economy was facing melt down, gas prices came down 50%. What’s that all about!

foxfire22 Location: TN
Some folks have posted complaints that farm subsidies are bad Socialist programs.
What's your opinion?

Is your operation large enough to participate in the futures market?

sol
I can't even get tax exemption on fuel to cut hay. The government gives me nothing. I don't want anything from them except to keep prices stable.

I,ve got 12 acres. It takes 25 to get tax exemption.

They call me a hobbie farmer. We have had draught, freeze, and blight in Tennessee for the past 3 years where I live.

I lost 15 hives of bees due to something.

People in Tennessee are good people and will help anyone one in need. We don't look for a hand out.

That's why 66-67% of Tennessee went McCain.

i rarely disagree
I rarely disagree with Thomas Sowell, but our economy is not sound. If our economy is a dog, then that dog is suffering from a cancer named government, and that cancer could be terminal if it isn't stopped in the next generation or so. If our economy is a house, it's being eaten by termites named government, and if don't get rid of those termites, our house is going to collapse around our ears in a generation or so.

And the American people sense this. They understand we're on the decline. We just need a charismatic libertarian, like Reagan but more libertarian, to hijack the Republican Party and make that case.

http://freedomistheanswer.blogspot.com/

Media lies.
The lies of the Democratic Party and the Media have led American's who are not able to think in a critical manner to believe that words like 'recession' have no meaning.

Both the Dem's and the Media have been hyping a recession for the past 6 or 7 years the actual condition of the economy meaning nothing at all as compared to their aims.

Now, as I watch election coverage I am listening to moronic commentators talk about how Obama is a centrist.

These guys are as clueless as the public.

America is going to take a hard swing to the left. It is going to take a swing to the left that will make Sweden look like it is run by Attila the Hun.

American's cannot see that the entire economic problem has been for the most part caused by Democratic policies. Because of this, they cannot see that more of the same is not going to be the solution.

Prediction; A year of recession; a nuclear Iran; war in the Middle East; energy policy that will result in much less energy available to American's, and domestic terrorist attacks within the first 6 months of the Presidency.

The next 2 years are going to prove to America that they have been led down a trail of lies and at the end their personal freedoms will have been coined cheap.

Cheers,

Bloefeld

My Fellow Americans
You have just witnessed the fruits of a communist takeover. The propaganda of a leftist party and its minority/celebrity/academia/union/city machines have hoodwinked a large portion of a gullible society.

Be ready for the invaders to become part of this group and all the handouts for as many family members as they can rush across the border. Terrorists/China/Russia will be invigorated with the dismantling of the military and the Europization of America begins.

I have particular disgust with Minnesota, Wisconsin, Colorado, Ohio and Pennsylvania white voters and Christians. What part of Godda@# America, Black Panthers at voting booths and letting babies die in hospitals did you not understand? You can put lipstick on this commie and he's still a communist pig.

Besides the illegal invasion that will be voting in 2010 there will be massive judge appointments, taxes, depression/unemployment with the bankruptcy of high oil and carbon taxing and communication shutdown. And if you think there will be another 94 revolt read my lips, MEXICAN VOTERS.

Retired Geek
Escape to Canada while you can. I am already set-up because I, like you, think there is going to be blood in the streets all over the United States. As one ginned up crisis after another is used to allow the President (with the acquiescence of Congress) to strip away one hard won right after another.

America has lost its way. Reason has been replaced by belief. Ignorance has triumphed because the school system as you point out has been hijacked by the post-modern concept that there is no such thing as truth. No truth is no knowledge and without knowledge any idiotic 'idea' has the same validity as the next.

Obama is going to push 'green' energy notwithstanding the fact that all known sources of 'green' energy emit more CO2 in practise than does simply burning coal.

If this is the type of policy that is going to rule America, look for dark ages ahead.

Cheers,

Bloefeld

foxfire22
My guess is you work plenty of 15 hour days.
The same is true for many trying to make a business successful. If by hard work work you should become moderately wealthy, is it fair to take the fruit of your labor and give it to those who coast through life or just plain freeload?

I used to be a truck driver, working 60 hrs a week. Now my back is destroyed from years of
unloading tons and tons of freight.

I am opposed to tax hikes of any kind that penalize hard work.


Always real common sense--
Dr. Sowell always writes good common sense, but the lib trolls don't have the capacity it seems to understand solid economics. If their messiah wins, then they also will suffer along with the rest of us. As has been said before: Fools hope to get honey, even from a hornet's nest. Another point, Indyconantidim is correct in his views and predictions. It will be Sanctuary Central all across the US for any piece of illegal trash that wants to come in, this is my opinion.

If anybody wants to know about hicks
Notice Louisiana has been through the bankruptcy of dims and only stupid New Orleans continues with it and gone GOP for Governor and will probably oust Landrieu. However the Peoples Republic of Michigan has managed to put that doofus Levin back in as they face higher and higher taxes and higher unemployment from their dim governor.

Trashing the economy
The dim/media trashing of Bush for eight long years has finally found its niche. They produced another slick Willie but this time no Perot. So he had to be black, smooth and stealth and the media had honed its liberal tanking methods even since 2004. I mean they could take down a lib lover war hero and 80% favored woman governor you know they've improved their Pravda/Goebbels credentials.

I can only hope that the idealogical kids that fell for this con will wise up before they turn 24. Because 2010 is it. And that's only if we filibuster the illegals shamnesty for 2 years.

GOP now renamed White Trash Party
With now New England not having one GOP member in the House, I guess the South is the only solid red area. Why be ashamed. GOP will now be called the White Trash Party. Sowell can be the token black and take over for Phil Gramm to be the top economic guru of the party.

Congrats, Obamatons
Looking forward to working shoulder-to-shoulder in the rice paddies.

Finally those capitalist pigs will pay for their crimes, eh comrades?

Hey Guys, The Nation Made It's Choice
I'm not going to cry over this. I have my conservative beliefs and as far as I am concerned they are right for this country.

I personally actively participated in the political system. I let my elected leaders know what I believed. Beyond that, you’re drifting into unlawful territory.

I know that the Democratic Party is destructive. I have no more control than my voice and my vote over what my party does in office.

I vote with conservatives, for that I take responsibility.

If you want to complain...
about Obama winning - blame the Right! Do you really think that your gays and guns arguments were the most important thing in this election? Yes, you did! But no, they weren't! And as a result, a senator who could have had a pretty good shot at the presidency lost it. Do you really think that this loss can be pinned on the mainstream media? Is this the straw man you want to blame for the defeat? And if so, how can that explain the fact that the low rated Demcocratic-run Congress now becomes even more so? Take a hard an dcritical look in the mirror and come back with a better game plan. Or you can stock up on non-perishables and buy plenty of batteries - but that won't hide the fact that the GOP was trounced fairly convincingly in these elections.

SOUND INDEED!
According to the Webster Dictionary, sound means free of fault, error or illness but of course for people like you Sowell and McCain, the economy is sound, which is ok, good for you but don't tell a person who has always worked hard for their family, who loses their home and job because of a financial mess they did not create, that the economy is sound. People like you who are having a blast during these trying times are only a small % of Americans and that is why the majority elected the 44th President of the USA Barack Obama, because he felt their pain.

indyconantidim....reply #6
Nail on the head.......

Michigan......Democratic State.......heavily unionized....bleeding jobs....overtaxed.....home of the cesspool formerly known as Detroit........

Vote for change????? Nah... Keep feeding the sheeple.....keep their heads down....keep feeding them occassional incentive checks.....

It remains a liberal cesspool......

Worse yet.....they re-elected the goofy canuck governor on the grounds she promised no tax increases.....and what was the reward????
A tax increase...

Hey Guys, The Nation Made It's Choice
Listen folks, it indeed was a long shot for McCain to win, though I hoped for one.
First of all, say what you will, but Barack Obama was supported by a black vote that was unprecedented in any election because he is black.

He was supported by college students that attend primarily colleges which are staffed predominately by liberal professors.

Young adults that have not lived enough life to have any idea what the consequences that there vote has brought.
No offense, but you don’t.
None of them have had to struggle to keep a business afloat. None of them have had to struggle with raising a family.
Young people were impressed by Obama’s charisma and rhetoric of a bright future, free healthcare, and free education, etc.

Sorry young people, it just isn’t going to be like he told you.
This old man has seen presidents come and go and it never has been like they said.

For the African Americans that voted. I’m thrilled for you to feel the pride of seeing the first African American elected to the highest office in the land. To witness this is truly a great day for you.

But, when one looks past the pride felt, we must look to reality. Barack Obama’s ideology is not good for this nation. The prosperity that he speaks of for the poor is so minor that it is not worth mentioning. Many of you will wind up wondering what he was talking about during this campaign. What do you plan to do when your $500 check is spent? He’s not going to be sending you a check every week, or every month.

He’s not going to give everyone a 3 bedroom house, and free gas, as one lady said.

Well, we will live through this as we have 43 previous presidents, and pick another one in 4 years that will tell us how bad the past 4 years have been. If we get lucky maybe we will get one that will make things a little better, but I wouldn’t hold my breath.

I am not defeated, I have survived 11 or 12 previous presidents, and I can survive this one.
To God Be The Glory

foxfire22
Best post-election post I've read.

To CKHustler
No, I'm not talking about bank debt. I'm talking about US government debt. The $65 trillion is a number used by the OMB. It's true that we don't have the $65 trillion on the books. We would if the government had to use the same accounting standards as companies do. The $65 trillion includes unfunded obligations for Social Security & Medicare.

The government has promised to pay this money. They don't have this money & frankly have no way of getting it. The US government is going to default and going to do it soon.

The slant will be changing soon
Electing Obama will almost certainly yield a variety socialist intrusions into our lives in the long term, but in the short run, it's likely to bring immediate relief on one front. Now that they've achieved their primary task of getting Obama into office, I fully expect that the MSM will rediscover their journalistic chops sufficiently to discover that the economy isn't really doing quite that badly. I expect stories about how outstanding credit is growing to near record levels in most categories, carefully slanted to disguise that it's been growing all along. The fact that the decline in home prices is localized for the most part to a handful of states with 30 states actually seeing a slight rise from Q2 2007 to Q2 2008 may not get out just yet, since there doesn't seem to be a way to spin that one to favor Obama or conceal the MSM's complicity in manufacturing this crisis. But they're clever lad's and Obama won't officially be Pres. for a couple of months, so they may find a way. In essence, I believe we can expect a much more positive spin on economic news, than has been available for the last eight years, except of course, for the heartrending anecdotes of hard ship needed to propel social programs through the legislative process.
They may not be able to come up with actual stories of sea levels declining, but I think we'll see a much brighter world now that we've anointed the One, at least if you restrict yourself to the MSM for your news.

Bill Clinton years
To those who are expecting a return of 90's prosperity, you will be deeply disappointed. First of all, it is all about timing. The extent to which the President can affect the economy is determined by how good he is at getting out of the way. Clinton had the good fortune of the dot.com and tech boom. Clinton simply got out of the way. Obama has neither of these factors in his favor. The closest thing to the tech boom of the 90's within the next four years is ENERGY. That can be a huge boon for the economy, i.e. more drilling, more refineries, restart the nuclear industry, coal gasification, shale oil, etc. Personally, I am heading to a uranium enrichment facility in anticipation of the new nuclear plants being built. That and other energy endeavors can come to a screeching halt with Obama. He will not get out of the way. As a matter of fact, he will do everything he can, with the help of the Democrat Congress, to block the tapping of our energy resources. With that said, there will be no other driving force to kick-start the economy. Change and hope. Great words, but little substance, when there are no jobs and gas prices go through the roof. With Bush gone, who will the libs blame for the high price of gas? Can 70's type gas lines be far off?

"SOUND" Economy
Thomas
My dear would-be friend, I find you right on almost everything. But I suggest that you have picked up the current melody that the economy is basically solid.
It basically is not. Most of our manufacturing industry has been sold off or ceded to China. China is now the largest manufacturer in the world.
China!
With the NOT-Free trade they have run a Mercantile con on us for 20+ years. They sell us everything, and sorry we can't sell them that. Or that. Or that!
They have about $2 Trillion IN PROFITS from doing this. And we have run $10 Trillion in Federal debt, or $160,000 for a family of four!

An industrial country without strong industry is Brazil.

We are really bankrupt if the Chinese bankers cut us off. We can't borrow it from Americans because they have no assets to speak of.
We are in a Debtpression. Lots of differences but the results are the same.
Again, I am sorry to point this out because you are right 99%.

Keep the faith.

Sounding Econmy
Sounding as in a whale I'm afraid. Look, the Full Faith and Credit of the US Government means no matter the cost we've always paid our bills. To do so now almost assuredly means a Depression and justly so - you can't spend what you don't have forever.

Will we do so now or just reflate and print money? We may get lucky. We may not print too much money, energy prices may stay low, we may not have another war, we may open the gates to more immigration which though deflationary on wages in some sense would create growth.

www.fairtax.org
We need the support of all for the fairtax, go to the website and learn how we can win.

thank you

Thomas Worrell

email: tkw70452@aol.com
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