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Tuesday, October 14, 2008
Thomas Sowell :: Townhall.com Columnist
Negative Advertising
by Thomas Sowell
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One of the oldest phenomena of American elections-- criticism of one's opponent-- has in recent times been stigmatized by much of the media as "negative advertising."

Is this because the criticism has gotten more vicious or more personal? You might think so, if you were totally ignorant of history, as so many of the graduates of even our elite universities are.

Although Grover Cleveland was elected President twice, he had to overcome a major scandal that he had fathered a child out of wedlock, which was considered more of a disgrace then than today. Even giants like Lincoln and Jefferson were called names that neither McCain nor Obama has been called.

Why then is "negative advertising" such a big deal these days? The dirty little secret is this: Liberal candidates have needed to escape their past and pretend that they are not liberals, because so many voters have had it with liberals.

In 1988, Governor Michael Dukakis of Massachusetts called himself a "technocrat," a pragmatic solver of problems, despite a classic liberal track record of big spending, big taxes, and policies that were anti-business and pro-criminal.

When the truth about what he actually did as governor was brought out during the Presidential election campaign, the media were duly shocked-- not by Dukakis' record, but by the Republicans' exposing his record.

John Kerry, with a very similar ultra-liberal record, topped off by inflammatory and unsubstantiated attacks on American military men in Vietnam, disdained the whole process of labeling as something unworthy. And the mainstream media closed ranks around him as well, deploring those who labeled Kerry a liberal.

Barack Obama is much smoother. Instead of issuing explicit denials, he gives speeches that sound so moderate, so nuanced and so lofty that even some conservative Republicans go for them. How could anyone believe that such a man is the very opposite of what he claims to be-- unless they check out the record of what he has actually done?

In words, Obama is a uniter instead of a divider. In deeds, he has spent years promoting polarization. That is what a "community organizer" does, creating a sense of grievance, envy and resentment, in order to mobilize political action to get more of the taxpayers' money or to force banks to lend to people they don't consider good risks, as the community organizing group ACORN did.

After Barack Obama moved beyond the role of a community organizer, he promoted the same polarization in his other roles.

That is what he did when he spent the money of the Woods Fund bankrolling programs to spread the politics of grievance and resentment into the schools. That is what he did when he spent the taxpayers' money bankrolling the grievance and resentment ideology of Michael Pfleger.

When Barack Obama donated $20,000 to Jeremiah Wright, does anyone imagine that he was unaware that Wright was the epitome of grievance, envy and resentment hype? Or were Wright's sermons too subtle for Obama to pick up that message?

How subtle is "Goddamn America!"?

Yet those in the media who deplore "negative advertising" regard it as unseemly to dig up ugly facts instead of sticking to the beautiful rhetoric of an election year. The oft-repeated mantra is that we should trick to the "real issues."

What are called "the real issues" are election-year talking points, while the actual track record of the candidates is treated as a distraction-- and somehow an unworthy distraction.

Does anyone in real life put more faith in what people say than in what they do? A few gullible people do-- and they often get deceived and defrauded big time.

Barack Obama has carried election-year makeovers to a new high, presenting himself a uniter of people, someone reaching across the partisan divide and the racial divide-- after decades of promoting polarization in each of his successive roles and each of his choices of political allies.

Yet the media treat exposing a fraudulent election-year image as far worse than letting someone acquire the powers of the highest office in the land through sheer deception.

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Pull off the mask, please
Well said. What's a stunning indicator of Democrats is that they ignored Jeremiah Wright's HATE SPEECH against Hillary Clinton, one of their own (until she did so well in the primaries and they had to knock her out of Messiah Obama's way). Nobody in the Obama camp has defended caucasians on whom Wright's hate speech was sprayed like napalm. Nobody has pointed out how this was hate speech against Hillary, their own candidate and senator!!!! If they won't even stand up for Hillary, how can we expect them to stand up for the average, unknown person!?!?!?

State of the Race
To Will, who suggests that McCain "cool it with the scurrilous attacks." How is just describing your opponent's abysimal record a scurrilous attack? The only slimy politicion willing to DO anything or SAY anything to win is Sen. Obama. He is a demagogue, spewing promises of gifts which he can never deliver to his willing worshipers. Half of what he says is downright incorrect. The latest is his promise of a tax rebate to small businesses that make new jobs.

The polls have been wrong in the past and they are wrong now.

I want to know how people can possibly think that making government bigger will be better for them? Do the Obamanistas have so little regard for themselves that they believe that this stranger with a smooth tongue ( when he reads from a script) will make better decisions for their lives than they can? If so, I am truly afraid for my country.

Polls are not a certainty
The ONLY poll that matters is still three weeks away. It doesn't depend on telephone samples, factors to adjust for answering habits, or weighting by estimated party likely voting percentages, and doesn't have margins of error.

Obama should not count his chickens before they are hatched..though, if you feel confident, by all means, Will, stay home.


Polls
Dont forget, some of these polls have a sample of 25% more Dems than Reps. I think that people like Will are just trying to set this thing up for law suits and cries of racism if their man dosen't win. I include the MSM in that group as well

Politicking
It seems that the media considers anything the right does as "negative ads" while barely acknowledging any impropriety from the left. I do not consider ads negative that expose the truths about any individual. To hear the democrat spokespersons you'd think McCain/Palin had desicrated a holy vessel. Enough! Enough! Enough! I hope Sen. McCain continues to hammer home the truth about Obama's association and connection to Ayers, ACORN, and so many others. In today's political arena it is hard to find a truly honest politico, I think McCain comes close. All those years in Washington has not corrupted him. Thank you Thomas Sowell for continuing to tell it like it is. Wish the mass print media would pick it up.

Advertising...
... defines the media. The brand they want in the White House is Obama. And if you think the deception they are using to elect him is sheer, wait until you see how they cover his presidency.

America will be brought to ruination by soap sellers! A fitting fate for a generation too stupid to separate reality from the rubbish they see on TV.

Obama's grandfather was a salesman. Clinton's step-father was. Not surprising that they present as presidential timber to morons who don't read or can't read, whose every idea is shaped by soap merchants.

Please, Dr. Sowell . . . .
It seems that there's no hope, even if McCain raises issues he's avoided before. Obama's facade has cracked before, even with mainstream media complicity, but to no avail. The amazing stupidity of some of his well-publicized comments -- "clinging to guns and religion", "typical white person", Iran no threat because it's a small country, etc. etc. -- don't seem to matter. Now ACORN is in the news, even in MSM, but also no matter. I agree that the polls are likely skewed, so there's some hope there.

But what's really needed here is a new McCain ad -- featuring a new spokesman: Thomas Sowell! Please, Dr. Sowell . . . .

NObama's Is Not A Gift of Appeasement...
...but, rather a quick study. The study of Alinsky;

How Obama Applies Alinsky's Rules http://ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=3069771415830 41

Investigators Release Reports on Obama's Communist Connections: http://www.usasurvival.org/ck05.22.08.html

Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis by James Simpson
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the _strategy.html

Why Obama's Communist Connections Are Not Headlines by Paul Kengor
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/why_obamas_communist _connectio.html


Thanks Thomas!!

Sorry -- grammatical error
Sorry about the ". . . stupidity . . . don't matter. . . ." Gotta slow down when writing so long a sentence.

Simply the Best!.......
When you go down the list of Townhall "columnists", you can't help but to be impressed with the number of "Black Conservatives" listed on the roster...Of course, we KNOW that this is not a mistake...The GOP has been a long time proponent of masking their 2% tally of Black Republican Delegates with sooooo many "faces" (of color) of the modern Republican Party...Having stated the obvious, there's no doubt who is "The One" amongst GOP Black pundits/writers...Yes, once again Thomas Sowell shows his worth...I recently read a column by Ken Blackwell. It took maybe one paragraph to realize that he's not in the same league as Doctor Sowell...Reading Blackwell, reminds me of the statement about "using a meat cleaver when you really need a scalpel"...Like Blackwell, Dr Sowell certainly addresses this weeks "talking points": 1. Acorn 2. Negative advertising is fine! 3.Failed Liberal Dem Candidates (Kerry,Dukakis) 4.Ayers 5. Comm Organizer Radical 6. Rev Wright 7. Father Pfleger 8. Voter Fraud....But! It's not that Sowell simply checks the boxes..It's that he does so with such skill that his audience is, once again, left... breathless!....If Obama wins this election Dr. Sowell and others will write that it's "the end of America as we now know it"...But, don't be fooled. Sowell is ONE conservative who's REALLY hoping for POTUS Obama...Imagine. He and the other "Black Conservatives" will have their very own cottage industry..They'll be in SUCH demand...OK, some of them may slip up and actually identify with Obama with some (skin deep) pride...But Dr Sowell would NEVER make that mistake...He's played this game longer and has all the angles down pact....That's why I admire Thomas Sowell for how he does, what he does...He's positioned himself over the years for what may now be his most profitable venture to date: Foil to President Obama. Cha-ching!!$$

Positive, actually
What could be more "POSITIVE" than speaking the truth, and encouraging voters to examine more closely the issues, facts, and factors that have been systematically omitted from scrutiny by most commentators and the mainstream media?

That's what the new batch of McCain-Palin ads are doing.

They're providing a much needed service to Americans and to everyone around the world (including Aussies like me) who value truth. Truth, not BS post-modern narratives.

McCain and Palin need to keep doing these POSITIVE ads - and doing LOTS more of them!

They're terrific!

Obama and Biden can do the same, of course.

If they find that McCain or Palin are fakes or flakes, or that the media or commentators have been deceitful and hidden important information about their pasts - such as dubious alliances with terrorists, racists, nihilists, corrupt members of Fannie Mae, or they harbor destructive grand agendas for bringing America to its knees, or saying one thing but doing another, etc. expose them!

Go ahead. Make my day.



To truthhurts
You, sir or ma'am, are so insightful! I amazed at the clarity of you inanity. (Look it up!)

Dr. Sowell has been an outstanding teacher of free enterprise and the Republic form of government who writings are a guide to economics.

Your non-subtle sense of humor is wasted. Play with the KOS, masters of hate.

By the way, who do you think wrote a considerable portion of Nobama's masterful books? Clue: who is Ayers?

Will / Polls
Poor Will...I feel sorry for you. You did so much work to compile all those numbers too. Don't you realize that the polls are done the same way that Acorn registers voters. All those numbers mean absolutely nothing. Come on now. Get your head out of "La-La Land" and get with the program.
Jeff

Will, Truthhurts
You, sir or ma'am, are so insightful! I amazed at the clarity of you inanity. (Look it up!)

Dr. Sowell has been an outstanding teacher of free enterprise and the Republic form of government who writings are a guide to economics.

Your non-subtle sense of humor is wasted. Play with the KOS, masters of hate.

By the way, who do you think wrote a considerable portion of Nobama's masterful books? Clue: who is Ayers?

BrainHurts
Just read "TruthHurts" (Reply #12)

How much of Thomas Sowell has this guy read?

I've been reading Thomas Sowell's work for years. He's been writing for years. These occasional brief articles for Townhall and others are just the tip of the tip of the iceberg.

Over many, many years Thomas Sowell has "positioned himself" (to use Truth(?)Hurts' expression) on the side of objectivity, scholarship, individual right, free thinking, science.

Should he becomes a "foil" of the fool

it'll only be because Obama has "positioned HIMself" on the side of virulent racism, post-modern nihilism, anti-Americanism, hatefulness, and deception.

That's cha-ching you can believe in.

Simply The Best...
Amazing! I thought only Obama considered himself to be the promised Messiah, but I see that you have the ability to judge another man's motives. I am not against "judging" per se, but when it comes to judging motives, I think you are out of your league and "above your pay grade."'
I was agreeing with your compliments for Dr. Sowell until you ruined it. I am new to reading Dr. Sowell and think his comments are quite profound, clear, and to the point. This one was especially good and "on target". Truth is always more important than political correctness and it doesn't matter to me if he is purple and you are green. And yes, "the workman is worthy of his hire. I hope he gets paid "big bucks."
Jeff

PRODOS in Ohio
Good post!

Words
Don’t you understand? Anything said about “the One” is negative campaigning, as well as blasphemy, if it isn’t gushing praise. Anything said by Republicans about the Dem candidate in general is negative campaigning, and in this election, racist to boot.

Words no longer have any meaning when you are talking about politics, and that is a crazy thing since politics is supposed to be a business of words.

And it sure helps to have all of the media in the tank when you are getting those words out.

The THUGGERY is on the LEFT
OBAMA + ACORN + AYERS = THUGOCRACY

Will
You may be right. Your candidate's slick lies backed up by his obsequious media toadies just might pull off the biggest con job in history and get him elected president. Gloat now, and puff out your puny little chest even more between election and inauguration, but......

After he's inaugurated, you and all your gullible cohorts will learn the profound wisdom of the old adage, "Be careful what you wish for." Many small business owners will, rather than pay Obama's opressive new taxes, close up shop, sell off their assets, and retire. Beats working 7 to 7 (only the employees work 9 to 5) to lose money. And, suddenly, all of you gullible fools wil realize, too late, that you have just voted yourselves out of a job.

MSM Hoax
Why should anyone trust MSM after the Duke Lacrosse Hoax? If the left were to actually have a "fairness doctrine," Charles Gibson and Katie Couric would be out of a job.

So when they tsk and cluck about McCain going negative, their subjectivity is all the more apparent. How many times did they protest against the Obama ad that made fun of Senator McCain's injuries, the ones that make it hard for him to use a computer? How many criticisms of the pointedly ugly comments about Governor Palin?

It seems that the media has plucked out both eyes in order to prevent what they call sin, but they're always someone else's eyes. Thus always from hypocrites.

Racism
It is difficult to imagine a person that has done more to promote racism than H. Obama and his advisors. This will be compounded when he starts "spreading the wealth around" as he told the plumber in yesterdays campaign stop.

This statment was a real eye opener to some. There are still too many that think it does not apply to them. Too late they will find out.


To the guilt ridden Liberals
Try remembering it's history not hate
Hakuna Matata...

Slavery was bad yes it's a thing of the past
NO ONE alive now should be compensated.

The trail of tears was bad
Well, The Cherokee and other tribes have more freedoms now than a lot of "regular" Americans.
It's history

Try a problem free, philosophy
Hakuna Matata

Heritage not hate. Learn from the past apply it to the future and get over it!

I predict
a repeat of the mid 1970s!

At that time I owned two retail stores here in SC and spoke with customers often on the topic of the day.

When Jimmy Carter was elected everyone was jubilant that a 'southerner' was back in office. and all were totally convinced that he would show "those Yankees" a thing or two!

Just a few months later you couldn't find a person here that would admit to voting for "ol' JC" (as he was apt to be called).

I find that election and this one pretty much parallel each other in that the Democrats have no idea what they are voting for, have no interest in finding out, and will deny ever having done so when the poo-poo hits the rotary air propulsion device.

One would think that the democrats would be a bit more discerning after nominating Gore then Kerry, and having their heads handed to them on a platter on both occasions.

Remember how after Sep. 11, everyone (democrats as well) rejoiced at NOT having "Big Al" in office to handle the crisis?

Remember how great it was that a group of real Americans revealed what a lying, traitorous phony Kerry is/was?

Mark my words folks, it's gonna happen again!




Security clearance
With Barak Obama'a checkered past having close associations with people that hold to violent philosophies against mainline America could he ever obtain Secret or Top-secret clearances for a defense industry job?

Should he become the next president I believe he will have full access to all levels of secrecy essential to remain secret for our contry's very life - he wouldn't be trusted in industry; therefore, should we trust him in office?

NEVER FOUND OUT.......
Look here - http://www.neverfindout.org. - for some fantastic ads that will be shown. These are NOT "negative" - they ask legitimate questions about Obama and his record.

Elkiejg
Neverfindout. Good, but still a little too nice if you ask me. They also need to point out that Obama's so called "tax credits" are nothing more than payments to low income Americans, many of whom don't even pay taxes.

When you write a check to people who don't pay taxes, it's called Welfare, not a tax refund.

I thought we reformed the welfare state in this country. I guess Obama wants it back.

What's wrong with this picture?
When I (one of those mean-spirited conservatives)see one of Thomas Sowell's columns, I think "this guy knows more about Economics than I could ever hope to, and as far as life experience goes, he leaves me in the dust--I should read what he has to say."

When TruthHurts? (a compassionate, open-minded liberal?) sees one of Thomas Sowell's columns, he thinks "a Black Conservative! Now how is he going to cash in vis-a-vis a Black President Obama?"


THE HAVES AND HAVE NOTS
In the past, being an American citizen (or pursuing to be one), being self reliant, working hard, being honest, supporting ones family, helping ones neighbor, being a positive member of ones community and being patriotic to our Country were the foundational values supporting ones quest of the "American Dream'.
And now, what appears to be a majority of Americans, desire a Government which will simply have us 'get in line' as they 'hand out' the 'American Dream' to each and every one of us (illegal aliens included).....NO 'values' needed.
The 'Haves' of the America are either those of us who achieved our "American Dream' through the values above or by those who, being without values or morals, have chosen to take advantage of or steal from others.
The 'Have Nots' of America are either those with foundational values but legitimately unable to achieve the 'American Dream' or those, without the motivation or values to pursue it.
'We The People' and our children are facing a future where the 'Haves' of our Country, who are without values or morals, will turn us ALL into 'Have Nots' standing in line. This is the democratic agenda.

TruthHurts
That's what they call an oxymoron.

Go *oxy* elsewhere instead of proving the *moron.*

Hello?
Hello?
Hello, out there.
Hello?
Is anybody listening?

The bambi supporters do not want to
hear the truth, period. It doesn't matter how good the source or how obvious the truth, they are blind to it such is their fervor for this clown. The MSM has fueled the Bush Derangement Syndrome about as well as Goebbals fueled the nazi propoganda machine in the 30's until these fools believe anything they are told...this is very scary stuff for us who witnessed the results of that.

We have the picture of this self-proclaimed communist Ayres standing on our flag..no-one seems to care, wright asks the Almighty to damn our country...no big deal to the bambi folks...how this fool is ahead in polls ahainst a man of McCain's character shows me that this country is just about to self-implode....I am almost sorry that I spent most of my life defending the very same damnedfools who would now destroy it.


Seawolf
Don't ever regret your years of service...this country is remarkably resilient, and I'm hopeful that it can survive even President Obama.

I'd say that oh, about 2010 when the Bush tax cuts expire, people will realize that they've been had and they'll want to get back to what makes this country worth fighting for.

Here's hoping that some nutball doesn't drop a nuke on us in the meantime.

The Media...
...is largely controlling this election. They believe that when The One is elected, they will be the Chosen elites in the New Order. What they don't realize is that this will only last until the first time they criticize The One, at which point they will be OUT.

I'd be w-a-a-a-y depressed about the election right now, but it occurred to me that the LAST time I was this depressed about the pre-election polls it was because the polls and the media were SURE that President Kerry would be leading the free world and the time before that was when the media and the polls were sure that President Gore was on the way. It ain't over 'till it's over, folks!

don't get it...
Sowell again tells it like it is. But to see some of the childish remarks from the Obama supporters on here, they are the ones that don't get it. In many ways, Sowell's article is a wonderful extension of the Prager article. I'm no big fan of McCain (the primary system in this country needs fixing) but I will vote for him based on the character issue only! That, and the fact that I just can't bring myself to vote for a communist!

Roy,
You forgot the last stage:

Sabotage -- show President Obama the same respect and support that the Dems did for the outgoing Commander-in-Chief, and do everything possible to screw up his agenda

Why it did not work
THe fact is that Ayers and Wright are old news. One thing that we have learned about negative advertising is that it has a limited shelf life. So by the time McCain late in the game tryed the strategy of using guild by association it did not work. Plus when they did do it they overreached. Calling Obama dangerous and letting people introduce them at rallies with B. Husseing Obama something that clearly was planned created a backlash with the Moderates and independents that McCain needed to close the gap.

Fox has been running stories in such perfect timing with the Mccain campaign that it goes beyond bias into the zone of coordination. This is hurting Foxes credibility and damaging its ability to influence the outcome of the election.

Additionally, this is the fourth McCain Strategy in Four Weeks his campaign is in free fall and it reflects on his leadership ability. Would you want someone in a crisis who usese a throw it against the wall approach to leadership.

After the election, conservatives will turn on McCain. They will say he lost because he was not a true red conservative. The fact is McCain barely had a chance from the start. He has been behind in the polls almost from the beginning with the exception of the few weeks after his convention. Bad economy or not it is likely that he would be losing because most people believe that this country is on the wrong track and they blame Bush , and the Republicans.

The Myth that this is a center right country is also being challenged. This is at this moment a center left country. The number of people who identify themselves as Republican is at an all time low.

Also Obama has very skillfully addressed the signature issue for Conservatives Lower taxes. Middle class tax payers know they will get a bigger tax cut with Obama than McCain.

perfect summary
Mr Sowell has summarized perfectly the frustrations of many Americans. This is why we may be viewed as angry. Thank you so much for putting into words an election phenomenon that most Americans can not comprehend. It is also the summary of why the masses will get out and vote for John McCain. There are many that are concerned about this radical liberal running our country and the ironic part will be that if he does win there will be resounding chants of "I told you so". God Bless us all.

It's not a "negative" ad
It's a negative CANDIDATE. Boy, we've really entered the age of NewSpeak when outing facts about your opponent is spun as "bashing" and "slamming".

I truly hope the American Dumb Masses can see the bias in the Media - if we're as stupid as the Media think we are, they'd better watch out, we might be stupid enough to break out our torches and pitchforks.

Acting White/Oreo
Lynne says: "Nobody in the Obama camp has defended caucasians on whom Wright's hate speech was sprayed like napalm."

But I will defend Thomas, who I'm sure has been called an Oreo for telling the truth. The idea of MLK has been turned back so far by this election that it will take two or three generations to get back to where it was just a few years ago. That makes most white people very sad.

BTW, what ever happened to Dr. Bill Cosby?

Why it did not work part II
On healthcare, most people want universal healthcare. That is where Obama is. McCain's plan is different and people are not sure if it will work to their benefit. So on political points Obama's plan seens safer and McCain's riskier and people are not into stomaching more risk now. Obama wins on that issue.

Obama's tax credit for job creation effectively kills McCains arguement that his tax cuts benefit small business which as always been the flea on the upper income tax cut dog. When McCain says that Obama's tax cut plan will hurt small businesses. Obama will come back and say his program targets the money to small businesses. He will them say that Republicans have been more interested in giving CEO's an average tax cut of 700K. That will not go over well with the moderates.

If McCain tweaks his economic plan Obama can either attack it or support it and say I will go you one better. Either way Obama wins.




ACORN
"money or to force banks to lend to people they don't consider good risks, as the community organizing group ACORN did."

This isn't true. In the whole of the housing loan scandal, less than 3% of these home went belly up. In New York not one went bankrupt.

http://www.c-span.org/video_rss.aspx?MediaID=38650

Sherry
No you are angry because you are losing. You drank the kool aid during a failed war policy, Katrina, and administration incompetence and discovered that most of the country did not. You thought the old dirty tricks that worked so well on Gore and Kerry would work on Obama but it did not.

You thought that you could have a trojan candidate like McCain who could pick off a few independents and keep you in power and what you got was a confused and conflicted candidate who can decide if he is a conservative or a populist or even a liberal. He calls that Maverick- Obama labels it erratic and the public seems to agree.

You are angry because you see this a the dawn of a new Democatic Party Age and the sunset of the modern conservative movement. You know that you will not get those far right conservative judges on the supreme court and conservatives will not dominate the political scene anymore.


this explains it all

Our Nation is Hopelessly divided
The left has taken over the media and our education system. Political correctness and the wussification of America has made the lefts voice louder than the right. The left has no morals and will say or do anything to gain power. Period. The Right, when pointing out failures, flaws, wrongs or hypocracy is called racist, homophobic, uncaring, or Nazis. The media is complicit in the socialization of America. When we are all living like those in most third world countries, the Left will claim it was the Right's fault (GWBush's policies). Propoganda will rule.
We are lost and gone forever.

To JM051
Where do you get the notion that most people want "universal" health care? This is 180 degrees opposite of reality. Universal healthcare has been rejected by the American people whenever it has been discussed. People may want some health care reform, but Americans know full well that "universal" health care is nothing more than a giant HMO, which will increase the tax burden on all working people and actually lower the quality of care that is currently available. I believe everyone in your circle of friends may be in favor of universal healthcare, but it is foolish of you to translate that to the whole population. When the question is fairly presented to the public, they soundly reject nationalized healthcare.

Military discipline
Military Discipline
is what America desperately needs right now !
Our country has been almost totally FEMINIZED and DUMBED DOWN in the guise of "Political Correctness"...
There are just far too many noisy Bulldyx, phaggotts and plain old imbeciles needing a dose of down to earth reality.

Oblahma-Bin-Biden can't be trusted to manage a three chair shoe-shine parlor!

When boarding an airplane I want an experienced pilot, not one who is a beginner and who will learn as he flies...

***WE AWAIT JUDGE R. BARCLAY SURRICK***
United States District Court Judge R. Barclay Surrick may be the most important figure in this election. He is the judge who will decide the fate of Philip Berg's lawsuit to compel the Marxist, Comrade Obama, to release his TRUE birth certificate...not the altered "Certificate of Live Birth" that Comrade Obama's fellow travelers like to say is proof of his citizenship.

JM051
You are deranged. McCain was winning this race until the Democrat-caused Fannie/Freddie collapse. It is almost as if you make up reality as you go along to fit your agenda. The fact that the public blames Bush for this collapse has more to do with a concerted effort by Democrats to blame everything that goes wrong on Bush, even when it is their own fault. The media goes along with their charade. You interpret the public reaction to that as a wholesale rejection of everything conservative. The Dems, even if they gain power, will ultiamtely fall on their faces. That party, as it now stands, is about nothing but gaining power. They intentionally undermined a war effort, talked down the economy and avoided true energy reforms because they did not want Bush getting credit for anything good.

Default Swaps
94% of all mortgages are being paid on time. Decreases in home values do not mean no value for those homes in foreclosure and AIG did not hold any loans. So why the the disaster? It is because of this novel thing that Wall Street created called a Default Swap. Fannie and Freddie has nothing to do with this. This was Wall Street, AIG and the Banks. What is a default swap it is an unregulated contract that Wall Street sold to investors as insurance against mortgage backed securities, It was unregulated largely thanks to McCain buddy Phil Gramm. So the banks sold these things took their premiums but did not have the collateral to back them up. When the housing market made a small correction the system when belly up and it took AIG, Bear Sterns, Merrill, etc down with them. It is like taking money from people for flood insurance and when the flood comes discovering that your insurance company never set aside any of the premiums to pay out. Insurance companies can't do that because their industry is regulated, but default swaps were specifically exempt from regulation at the behest of the Republicans (Though some Dems went along)

That is the cause, not a pressure from Acorn or anyone else. Remeber 94% have been paying.

Sowell is Right
Anything Republicans do is labeled as an "attack". Has anyone else noticed that nothing the Obama camp does is ever called an "attack"? To the media, Democrats always speak the truth, no matter how self-serving and out of touch with reality it may be. And Republicans always seem to be "attacking" the opposition, not pointing out the truth. So if Obama did indeed hang out with assorted felons, communists, and racist anti-American ministers, it does not matter. To the left all that matters if what fits their agenda. They ignore contrary evidence; they summarily discredit opposing viewpoints and they walk around in a fog of idealism. Sowell hit the nail on the head here.

JM051 - interesting definition of anger
Frankly my friend, you seem to be part of the angry left. I have always wondered about your kind. Your comments confirm my thoughts. I hope there are strict gun laws in your state.

tommy
Wrong, McCain was ahead for a short time after his convention. Before that Obama was ahead. It is called a convention bump. I recall Bill O saying the momemtum appears to have shifted to McCain, shifted from what.

Also Fannie and Freddy were not the principle causes of the meltdown. They were already bailed out before the 700b. It was default swaps and Fannie and Freddy had nothing to do with that. So you would be well adviced to expand you news sources beyond the right wing spin zone.

Classic Liberal Two-Step
If Liberals were truly opposed to the labeling of political opponents, they would not have spent the last 7.5 years calling George Bush a Nazi and worse.

If Barack Obama was truly opposed to negative advertising, he wouldn't be spending so much time trying to hang the Bush Administration's failures around John McCain's neck.

Obama and his liberal supporters in the media and elsewhere have no real issue with negativity, per se; they merely object when it is aimed at Obama, his complete lack of a record, his idiotic policies, or his blatant lies about his life.

Presidency as Entitlement
Obama's history of ensuring entitlements for his constituents, including the 95% of Americans who won't see a tax increase, only elucidates his own search for the biggest entitlement of all—The Presidency of the United States.

tommy
On universal healthcare the polls say otherwise. The insurance industry has in the past been very successful in scaring people about universal healthcare but support for it has been growing. Now you don't have to like it, but your are a wing nut. Here is some news most people are not wing nuts.

I bet you still think the war in Iraq was a good idea. That is because you are a wing nut - Most people are not wing nuts.

Issues
So far, I haven't seen any commentators remind people that Obama himself declared Rev. Wright to be a legitimate campaign issue on Fox News Sunday last spring.

tommy
There is a difference in attacks, as can be seen when people at rallies yell kill him and yell epithets at black reporters. McCain knows he went over the line and he angered a great many of his party. I am disappointed though, in the very false Obama ad, where he says that McCain is against Mexican immigration. It is an outright lie, and Obama should knock if off.

Sherry
You don't hear people yelling kill him at Obama rallies.

Now you are angry, we are gloating.

TRUTH vs LIE…

TRUTH and not politics should be printed and spoken when ever and where ever it is being disparaged. For without “The Truth” being known, we find ourselves at this point in history. History has shown that our Freedom and Liberty is rooted in “The Truth”; and prevails only when “Un-truths” are confronted and dispelled. The source of these “Un-truths” must be known and made to acknowledge these “Un-truths”; for what they are, “LIES”.

Those that believe there is no such thing as “RIGHT” and “WRONG” cannot see anything but shades of gray. They will believe these “Un-truths” without questioning them. History has also shown that those who believe without questioning are the first to die by the millions.

I am sick of politicians doing what they want, without regard for the common man and doing what is best for America. Doing the politically correct thing instead of doing “WHAT IS RIGHT” for America and the common man is WRONG; and will be the down-fall of the greatest and most benevolent Nation on this Earth.


You want to compare records?
McCain dumped his first wife after she was in a car wreck for a younger, prettier, wealthier wife.

John McCain was opposed to the Bush tax cuts because they favored the wealthy too much, now he's in favor of them.

John McCain was opposed to off-shore drilling. Now he leads chants of drill baby drill.

John McCain comes up with a new often contradictory economic plan nearly every day.

John McCain ran ads falsely claiming that Obama wants to teach comprehensive sex ed to 5 year olds. (Go to factcheck.org if you don't believe me.)

John McCain falsely claims that Obama lied about Bill Ayers. (Again, go to factcheck.org if you don't believe me.)

According to the non-partisan Tax Policy Center John McCain will increase the national debt by far more than Barack Obama.

Cindy McCain is a convicted thief and pill popper.

Sarah Palin repeatedly lied about opposing the bridge to nowhere. Now she's lying about the findings of troopergate; saying she was cleared of unethical activity. Her statement is the reverse of the truth.

Oh yeah, she's a real reformer all right.

As mayor, Sarah Palin took her town of 5500 from a debt of $1 million, to a debt of $22 million by the time she left office.

Comparing what these two say and what they've actually done makes one dizzy from contradictions.

JMO51,
and why were those Default Swaps put in place? Because the Liberals demanded that the mortgage industry invent ways of getting practically every adult person in America into a home of their own, bonehead.

What did you expect them to do with government pressure--and more than pressure, mandates?

You're a twitidiot if you think the mortgage industry is somehow unregulated. I have been in the mortgage industry (and, the insurance industry). Everybody, including John Q. Public, thought all of these new creative mortage programs were wondrous godsends and gave a win-win to all...until later.

Spare us the Leftist tripe, thank you. The Democrats have no interest whatsoever in "cleaning up Wall Street"--they just want the power that comes with taking it over. If they cleand up Wall Street they would have to sweep up all their happy horses**t that lines the street and the sidewalks there. They aren't interested, and clearly neither are you.

JM051
Nice try. Typical no it all liberal. Your arrogance just oozes out. Unfortunately for you so does your utter lack of knowledge. But of course I know you are always right. The meltdown as you call it was caused by a number of things. However the community redevelopment act, acorn (Obama), and the democrats were the ones that caused that. So loose your smugness and noitall liberal attitude and lo and be hold you might even find some friends. That way you might not be so disgusted with your life.

JMO51 take 2,
You know even less about the insurance industry than you know about the mortgage business.

Some worldviews are spacious, and some are merely spaced. Like all moonbats, you sell yourself on the lie that yours is the former, but in fact it's the latter.

universal health care
So JM051 believes a small group of bureaucrats in Washington can make decisions better than millions of consumers can?

If so you (and your friends) are world class morons.

Right now the fact we only have a few thousand employers making the choices IS the problem and the Obama lemmings want to further reduce our choices.

These are truly dangerous people: hopelessly ignorant yet almost megalomaniacal in their beliefs.

Taft
YOu are basicallt right about McCain having a moderate stance on Immegration until he was nominated then his positions got fuzzy pandering to the wing nuts. But the Obama ad is misleadning which should just warm Sowell's little heart.

Roy
Care to dispute anything in Dr Sowell's column? I didn't think so.

Freelancelot
You are drinking the kool aid. It was greed and the smell of easy money not the pressure fomr congress that created this wall street frenzy. In fact Fannie and Freddy were late players. As you recall it was that liberal Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan advising us all to take ARM's.

But it is really pointless arguing policy with a wing nut. YOu have such narrow tunnel vision and If I cited places where you could only learn the truth you would only discount them as biased. So believe what you want to believe and the vast majority of Americans who are not blinded by their narrow ideology move on to fic the mess.


Rocksiback,
your head is full of rocks.

You demonstrate the functional illiteracy of 98% of all you moonbats. You completely missed the point of Sowell's superior article. But, ah, you couldn't emotionally afford to comprehend it anyway.

The MSM gather round the Left, not around the Right. They have no business doing that. They are not impartial. Obama tells lie after lie after lie. His lies have been exposed here and elsewhere. They are easy to expose.

Is John McCain above criticsim? No. But the conservatives don't pretend he is. They just would like the MSM to be objective and ask real questions of the untouchable Black Guy and stop rephrasing the same questions 42 different ways to the Republicans like they're media messiah interrogators. That's an impossibility for them, though, for it's an impossibility for the Lefties to be objective. As you and your rock-headed kind always prove, over and over and over again. You never let facts get in the way of a good story--or, a lousy story, as long as it's labeled "Left".

Someday soon, for this nation to survive and thrive, that's precisely what you and your ilk will have to be: left.

Roy
I don't know where morons like you come from but please go back with your ignorant liberal clowns where you belong. Someone will have to show Obama a map. Maybe then he can see how many states there are. Someone should sit Biden down and give him a history lesson so maybe he can teach Obama about the Middle East. And guess what if he wins we all lose. But by your wonderful comment I can see you are way to stupid to be able to figure that out.

Living is easy with eyes closed.
The Democrats are ruining this country. They fall for anything as long as it serves their limited special purpose. They do not look at the big picture and have no concern whatsoever for what is best for the country. To be a Democrat you have to be an extreme radical these days, or a moron, or blind deaf and dumb,or just like the duck: Flat footed and don't give a quack.

Actions speak louder than words
Who is firebombing people's houses? Who is vandalizing buildings? Democrats, that's who.

Hire one person to yell
How to manipulate a campaign? How to play the race card?
Hire one person to yell an atrocity when cameras are present
Did the press question this person? Why not?
That is suspicious!

Sowell is Right
JM051 is like many leftists. A lack of facts and reason is not enough to prevent them from spouting nonsense. He tells a collection of half-truths and uses twisted logic to further an agenda.

Of course, this is nothing different than Barack Obama does himself. He's going to cut taxes on 95% of the people while adding a billion dollars of spending and implementing nationalized healthcare. It doesn't matter how ridiculous this is even on the surface; nobody in the mainstream media will call him on it. One minute he's against drilling, then he's for it; he's against nuclear energy before he's in favor of it. Obama will tell any story to get elected. And nobody sees the danger of this? We cannot judge Barack Obama on what he is telling us, because it changes on a daily basis. (The only consistency is that everything is Bush's fault, that he did nothing right for eight years, which is a surprise because things have actually been pretty good for most of those eight years, until the Dem boondoggle feel apart.) Since we cannot judge Obama based on what he is telling us now, we are forced to look at his history. The problem for him, of course, is that his history is checkered--questionable relationships and a very liberal voting record. When McCain points this out, he is seen as "attacking" Mr. Obama. Sowell is right. Sticking to the "issues" means sticking to the template that Bush is bad and Obama is here to save the world. Anything that varies from this message is an attack.

To TruthHurts ? You mean 50 cents ?
You sound like STREET BROTHER AIRHEAD or someone or Drugs or cheap Wine !
Ken Blackwell makes you sound like a drunken fool for the DAILY KOS or One of those Hollyweird perverts .
Are You the Raper 50 cents ?You make about as much sense .No less !
But of course FAR LEFT BLACKS HATED CONSERVATIVE CLARENCE THOMAS AS WELL .
JUST FOR THE RECORD ..... (DR)Phd ... THOMAS SOWELL HAS WRITTEN 33 BEST SELLING BOOKS AND HIS BOOKS ON ECONOMICS ARE THREE OF THE BEST BOOKS EVER WRITTEN ON ECONOMICS . DUH !!!!
Yes Yes Yes ..... Sowell and Bill Cosby are hated by the Jesse Jackson , AL sharpton , NAACP and The BLACK CACUS .... and Dumb A... YOU .

Negative Advertisement
THANK YOU FOR YOUR HONESTY THOMAS SOWELL!!!!! Reading Thomas Sowell'S column one feels the truth is vindicated. His clarity of thoughts and wisdom is much needed now....although, reading some of the posted coments it is clear that a horse can be lead to the river, but can't be forced to drink.

Mario
They have this little tiny play book it say that anything that goes wrong must be the fault of the poor or minorities or the dogooders who advocating for them. It can never be rich people, CEO's or Corporate America. Theses are the true gods of the wing nuts and they can never be blamed. Even when they screw up royally it was someone making them do it. You know poor people or Congress. When the facts don't jive they screw with the facts. These mental contortions defy logic and the leakeage from these silly notions are all around us including in the comments from conservatives themselves. But as a true believer they just can't hear the sound of the bell.


PLANT THEM SEEDS
The liberal left 'Plants them seeds' Plant them---and they'll faint
Plant them---and they'll register the same person to vote 73 times (Ohio)
Plant them---and they'll spew racial hatred so that the MSM can 'headline' conservative racism
Plant them---in our Government, so Rezko can be pardoned, Ayres can educate radical revolutionaries, Wright can 'GD America" from the Rose Garden and through 'eminent domain' Soros can buy and hold deed to ALL American soil

Probably Are
more have nots - there would be even more if it were not for the HAVES. Haves that own businesses and create jobs,provide benefits to those workers, pump funds into the economy=work force by buying "stuff" - from shoes to yachts, seek services from trades people of every type, give to charity, pay about 60% of the income tax in this country.
Without the haves - we would have a hard time keeping the economy moving along and the have nots would be in a much more serious condition.
Have nots - are some of those that went out and secured mortgages with no income verification, no job, no down payment, no documentation, no means of repayment and the Democrat idealogy of buying up the votes of that large segment of the population - hit everyone - the have nots and the haves - but mostly the haves in the pocket book. Once the haves are down - the have nots will be more involved in economic down turn than they can even now imagine.
Barack Obama is appealing to a very unattractive and dangerous human emotion - ENVY.
He does it on a daily basis - recently told a plumber in Ohio we should spread the wealth around WHAT IN THE NAME OF GOD DOES OBAMA THINK WE DO AS A COUNTRY - WE HAVE BEEN SPREADING THE WEALTH HERE IN THIS COUNTRY AND IN THE WORLD DECADE AFTER DECADE!!!
American let's get serious about this election
McCain/Palin 2008!!! COUNTRY FIRST - without a strong country - no one wins - not the haves or the have nots.

Obama Fraud
Sowell hits the mark exactly. The media acts as if it is Obama's right to win this election; therefore, anyone seen standing in the way of that right is attacking him unfairly. It is unfair to use this man's real middle name; it is unfair to point out his past relationships and affiliations; it is unfair to point to his voting record; it is unfair to call him a liberal, etc. The only "fair" thing for McCain to do is to get out of the way and let the annointed one take his rightful place in the White House.

Well said and so very true !
Thank you, thank you, thank you. Now if I could just plaster this all over liberal boards. Unfortunately, I don't go to liberal boards because it's hard enough keeping up with the paid and unpaid trolls here.

BHO has been so adept at trying to make us all forget his association with Wright, and is working on distancing himself from Ayers and ACORN. But I won't and can't forget and that is why I won't vote for him. Not because he is black...calling the race card just doesn't work here. But because he will change America forever into Amerrussia.


Re: Negative?
Look guy, if someone does'nt do it then who will?? This guy is a lier and a cheat and his entire campain reaks with it so look, I think the American people have a right to know what they are getting into and for anyone to make light of this is a complete loon!!!!

FBI files
I have been pouring over pages and pages of the
Freedom Information Act
Federal Bureau Investigation-Weatherman Underground

Foreign Influence-Weather underground

Summery – It seems that the FBI has been on to an international Communist plot to overthrow the US government.Ayers is key player and it seems he is attempting to complete his dream of the destruction of Imperial USA thru a network of Communist countries, black panther groups, Islamic terror groups all bent on destroying USA.I come to this conclusion after reading pages of FBI secret documents released by freedom of information act. This explains Ayers intent and also the huge amount of overseas funds. I have forwarded all of my research to RNC and two news networks’ almost certain the gov knows of this plot and have stopped it in its tracks. I think the next phase is to calm the public’s fears and not cause mass rioting. This becoming public would be a major embarrassment to the US government. My best hopes are that they have a manufactured defeat of Obama in the works and he will bow out gracefully after the election rather than cause riots. All is not as it seems.
Its a pdf. file,please look up on line it contains damming evidence of Ayers group to destroy the USA :(

yawn, typical
Obamites can't dispute the article so they throw around negative and irrelevant attacks. Yeah, OK, Palin the Hooters girl can't find Indiana and thinks it's full of indians. Wow, someone really put a lot of thought into that one. Shot the whole premise of the article full of holes. *yawn*

With all the mental giants on the left I don't know why we conservatives even bother.

pathetic
Was Sowell ever really a serious economist? When one reads the nonsense he produced now it seems hard to believe it. But scholars tend to produce their breakthroughts when they are young, so it is not unheard of for them to be reduced to being partisan hacks when they get older.

The complainsts of negative attacks (which are no newer than the negative attacks contrary to the impression that Sowell gives here) against Dukakis concerned a single misleading ad, ironically produced by someone who had benefitted from the very kind of furlough program the ad misrepresented.

There is certainly a place for negative comparison ads, and they don't create any media backlash. It is when the ads lie that people object. When someone pretends that an education plan that is comprehensive in the sense of covering every grade is actually comprehensive in teaching everything to each grade, then people correctly object. There is no virtue to the kind of lying that Sowell engages in above. And it would be kind of embarassing if Sowell wasn't lying but was really as misinformed as he pretends above.

It is embarassing to be in the position, as Sowell is here, that lying is the more generous interpretation.

robert
Location: TX
Date: Oct 14, 2008 - 9:47 AM EST
Re: Negative?
Look guy, if someone does'nt do it then who will?? This guy is a lier and a cheat and his entire campain reaks with it so look, I think the American people have a right to know what they are getting into and for anyone to make light of this is a complete loon!!!!

I agree. Even though McCain is going down in flames, someone should look into his real past. Hopefully he and the Cons will slink away after Obama wins in a landslide.

left angle
Now THAT is FREAKIN' HILARIOUS!!!!

"tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded."

HAHAHAHAHAHA! Yeah, I see how tolerant and broad-minded liberals are everytime I log in to TH! Thanks for the belly laugh!!!!!

Yes, Dr. Sowell
When Oblaba said he was a uniter he was really talking about conning enough middle class Democrat/independent whites to go along with the dim/media leftists and give he and his radicals power.

The alternative media is putting on a full court press to get the word out on this commie but the real battle is getting dims thrown out of Congress over drilling, the economy and immigration. We've got to show them shamnesty is a given if these clowns get back in power. We will be paying for gas and the costs it adds to everything else for two years and then we will have overcome 50 million Mexican voters that will storm the border right before shamnesty. We know the old libs will retire if they don't die right before Oblaba gets kicked out so that he can stock the court and that will guarantee the courts deciding for liberals over the majority.

The Oblaba/dim connection with ACORN criminals and Fannie/Freddie scammers is slapping true Americans in the face but we must hope they look past the lib scam polls and rise up to smack these cons down.

Mario
So, there are more of "have nots" than haves? I'm not a census taker so I have no access to numbers. But I do know that I am sick and fricken tired of having liberals point to that percentage of the population as I reason to elect a socialist/communist.

As a Home Health Care nurse I took care of many of the have nots. Many of them deserve the help that they get because of infirmities or sudden catastrophic illnesses.

But I got to tell ya that when I found myself caring for 4th generation Medicaid lazy butt holes, it took a lot of self discipline to adhere to my pledge to give the very best halth care I was capable of delivering. We're talking here about the blood suckers, not the ill.

Obviously, the Republicans are doing quite a good job of spending our money and so is the state of Colorado. (Medicare is government $ and Medicais is state $.) Turn Barack Hussein Obama loose and we'll watch the indigent who want to stay that way, add to their numbers and suck the coffers dry. Especially with a socialist, egomaniac president at the helm.

With JFK it was "Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country," Now there was a statesman!!! Next to him, BO looks like a paultry, two-timing SOB.

Tax Incentive
JMO51:
"Obama's tax credit for job creation effectively kills McCains arguement that his tax cuts benefit small business which as always been the flea on the upper income tax cut dog. When McCain says that Obama's tax cut plan will hurt small businesses. Obama will come back and say his program targets the money to small businesses. He will them say that Republicans have been more interested in giving CEO's an average tax cut of 700K. That will not go over well with the moderates."

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I guess I had a different math went I went to school. If you give a small business a $3000 tax credit for creating a $50,000 job, where exactly is the incentive for small business owners? Maybe, paying for health care, Workers Compensation insurance, etc.? I guess some will buy that nonsense, but if they went to school and have any degree of common sense, they'll know it just doesn't add up. That sort of describes most of Obama's rhetoric, tax credits for everyone and everything ... the check's in the mail, and it doesn't matter if you pay taxes or not, he'll send you money because he wants to "spread the wealth around". Socialism is only one short, left-hand turn this November.

Hey Mario
Get off the weed, man. Soros, Buffet, Hollyweird, media heads, athletes. Are these the rich poor people? Your brain must be bitterly clinging to its last line of hope from Oblaba. I know its #ell being wrong all the time. But you will know it even more when you get there for wishing it on normal people.

Hate, and the ideologial civil war
Red vs Blue
Blue vs Gray...no
Pride vs I'm not sure what to call it
It's an ideological war

See my blog by clicking my name or copy paste here
http://ednaeagle.blogtownhall.com/
it's in features

Mario exposed
Mario says "These repubs are for the rich, screw the poor as far as they are concerned. God will see to it that they burn in hell."

First, no economic system ever devised can hold a candle to the free-market for improving the living standards for the working class. The poor today get medical treatment unavailable to mulitmillionaires 50 years ago. The world's poor come to the U.S., not socialist North Korea to improve their well being.

And how about commanding God to burn Republicans in hell? The concealed hatred and animosity of the left always manifests itself. Leftism isn't really a political movement so much as a religious movement for sociopaths.

Can you tell me. . .
Since there seems to be an amazing amount of trolls on this board today, can one of them please explain to me why Obama needs his own channel on TV which plays his adds 24 hours a day?

If this man really had his campaign sewn up, over with, and won, why is he outspending McCain 3 to 1 on TV adds?

Why does the One (Farrakahn's words, not mine) still only hold a 5-10 point lead when all is said and done? Can you explain to me how this happened?

With all of the email, in-your-face supporters, and paid and unpaid trolls sent out to spend the "good news" shouldn't this well funded machine be paying a few more dividends in the national polls?

With this amount of spending, and if the American people really wanted what he is selling, shouldn't he be ahead by a huge margin?

Good Article, Mr. Sowell
Thanks for placing this election in an historical perspective. But "negative political advertising" is no longer "politically correct"!
Senator Obama's speech in Ohio yesterday reminded me of how skillful is his rehetoric and salesmanship. He is "pleasing all the people". He's pandering to the middle class, the freeloaders and small business owners. Unfortunately, to the discerning, practical application of his solutions has huge gaps. He's going to remove the penalty for withdrawal from 401K? So, what about the tax? He's going to help small business but extend unemployment benefits? Small businesses pay unemployment tax, too. Will that increase? Due to the economy, I anticipate having to close my small business early 2009--all the moreso if Obama wins.
BTW, how do we know that our vote is actually counted? Since the election seems to have already been concluded by the media and pollsters, whose to stop them from staging an Obama victory? 'Lots of liars and cheaters out and about trying to make this happen for Obama.

Hate mongers are nothing new
Acorn, African Centralist, the Aryan nation, KKK, and other Obama supporters are not new to using racism and hate to serve their political candidate. Durg usage by Obama is also nothing new, if it is proved that he was a drug dealer as he seems to alledge in his book. That is a
new ball game, that makes him in my book a child endangerer.
If he sold drugs only to adults any had childern he chose to take food off the childern plate and have money in his pocket. If he sold directly to childern, then only a crazt person should want him to be president. He could believe that the laws are andiquated and need to be changed. Have he brought forth any legislation to that effect, a lot of states have enacted legislation and taken the federal govbernment to court. As a state senator he had the opportunity to do so. He never submitted any form of leigslation seeking a change in the state of Illinois. Hate is being a child endangerer.

To Dennis
Grest response to JM. These libs do not understand basic math or basic econ; they live by emotional arguments. Obama is pandering with this $3K tax credit nonsense. Anybody with any level of sense knows how much an employee costs an employer--in salary, benefits and payroll taxes. The idea that a $3K is going to motivate anyone to hire someone is positively hilarious, at least it would be hilarious if it was not being suggested by the front-runner in the presidential race, and being bought hook, line and sinker by neophytes like JM051.

Edna
"... and if the American people really wanted what he is selling, shouldn't he be ahead by a huge margin? "

You are so right. One would think the margin would be greater. But then, what do all those polls really tell us? Anything we can believe?

"Divide and Conquer" is the subtitle for the Obama slogan.

For the first Time
in my life I wont mind being called a racist. Which is exactly what I will be called after I cast my vote. If the welfare of my country is at stake; What's a little misnommer against our "freedom"?
I will vote McCain, I wouldn't be paid enough to vote for a liar, racist, communist, candidate. Anyone who associates with terrrorists, black theologians, extremist "Pfleger" Pelosi and Reid, and Dodd and a ACORN...whoa the lists keeps growing. does not deserve any kind of respect.

To Da Sister PhyloSe Fiser

To Da Sister PhyloSe Fiser .... avery single word I wrote was correct.... Blacks hate Successful Conservative Black man and Women as do white Liberals .
I saw how a fantastic brilliant moral , family man Michael Steele was mistreated in and highly insulted in Md. when he ran for Governor after being LT. Gov. There .....many Blacks through Oreo cream cookies at him and the NAACP RAN LYING ADS AGAINST HIM AS DID THE LAFT LEFT BALTIMORE SUN .HE STILL ONLY LOST BY 1 % OF ALL VOTES .
Far left black and white Feminizes hate Conservative Feminist White women like Sarah Palin ...... Address my Points You and those other far left Moron Air heads didn't or you can't ...duh .
Facts matter !
Is that You Opera or Sister Soldier ?
Just for The record I was President of Sealy Posturepedia of Canada and am a very famous Sofa designer known World wide .
Oh yea I killed lots of Cong in Nam .But no one in Americaa as of yet .
stay tuned

One thing we know for sure,

women often fall for men's lies. Apparently, there is a type of woman who is unable to recognize when men lie to them. This explains why the mothers of so many children are unmarried. This explains why a majority of women and a minority of men support Obama, Jr.

Sen. Obama's Rhetoric...
...is just as bad as his record. His entire campaign has been about more taxes and more spending, about taking from whomever has anything and giving it to whomever doesn't. The only deceit is his insinuation that those from whom he takes everything will still have plenty left because they're "rich".

Unfortunately, Sen. McCain's reaction is to promise even more redistributive spending. I don't think we're being deceived. We know we're going to have to bend over and take it from either one of them. The choice seems to be about whether we're going to let the Dems do their usual thing while we re-build an alternative, or to let the Reps pretend that they're already the alternative. The former may be more desirable.

Left Angle
Very good, Lefty. The dictionary definition does not define the term "Liberal" in the political sense as in the U.S. Democratic Party. Many years ago, it more accurately described the Democratic Party.

"Liberal" today, simply means Leftist thinking (aka Socialism) which is a very narrow & radical political position which threatens the core of American freedom.

Bradley effect vs the Rosenberg effect
There is a lot of talk concerning the bradly effect, but when it all boils out...It is Obamas work to fund education so they can teach anti capitalist Ayers dogmas that is so troubling. Ad in Acorn misbehavior and his hidden agenda to "spread around the wealth" and we have the makings of the "ROSENBERG effect" We cant elect a man whose views are more Soviet than American.

Wow
Sowell, you have taken this to a whole new low. Now you're disparaging community organizers?!?! Before I start let me say I can't defend Obama's record as anything but left-leaning because that is where he votes... but why is that surprising considering the people he represents? Anyway, community organizers in general fight for the disenfranchised. One of Obama's 1st actions as a community organizer in Chicago was to bring all the various Church groups together so they could bring attention to a very serious asbestos problem happening in the projects. It was rampant, children's health were at stake, the landlord didn't care and unfortunately neither did the entrenched gov't. So what did he do? He gave those poor & disenfranchised people the support & guidance they needed to stand up & demand the treatment that should be guaranteed them by the law. (However as many of us know the law does not always apply equally to us all - an unfortunate but human convention). Where is the , "mobilization of political action to get more of the taxpayers' money or to force banks to lend to people they don't consider good risks" in this? There are also many more examples where Obama, as a community organizer, did good for that community.

Obama's O Flag
Did any one notice The flag behind Obama when he held his press conference the other day ---It was an o flag red ,white ,and blue with stars on it which was placed at the same heighth as the REAL American Flag----just like his Fake seal----And you idiots don't see this as bad????A fake flag and A fake seal and a Fake Candidate---here's a quote to take to the bank "he's a politician,he just says what he has to(that the dumba**** believe) in order to get elected"-Rev. Jeremiah Wright speaking of his friend and deaf,dumb,and blind parishioner BH Obama....I swear in 20 years I never heard or saw any of those antics...Oh the same antics you wrote about in your Faux "memoirs?"....er, uh....er...uh...

What's the Big Deal---
Actually, I think bringing out all the negatives is a necessity. Politics in America has gotten too dainty. Take the gloves off and let it rip. But, if and when candidates decide to take their gloves off and street fight their opponent--the charges that they make have to be truthful. There is so much about Obama to spank him with, it's pathetic...but McCain is afraid to go there consistently. WHY? I was actually shocked when he used the word SOCIALIST in describing Obama...that was a first.

Mario
the poor have been voting democrat for the last 50 years. Guess what? There still poor.
Your posts prove one thing. You let your emotions cloud your judgement. Theres one cure for that...try using your brain instead of your heart.

Mario check your facts
Apparently like other liberals you don't check facts--Facts: Conservatives give more of their incomes (even when they don't necessarily have it to give)than Liberals-Republicans like wise--Check Bushes tax records or Cheney's then Check Obama's-last year Mr. Obama After declaring a income of over 6,000,000.00 gave a paltry .05% of his income to charity--Bush gave about 17 %and Cheney closer to 20 %--apparently the only money liberals are good at spending on their"charities" is other peoples---

To the serious conservative poster-
please don't feed the trolls, even if they won't stop their flood tactics.
They are irredeemable, unrepentant, fanatical zealots whose sole purpose in life is to tear down, not to build.
They are as the buzzing of mosquitoes going through a 767 turbine and should be given exactly that much credibility by thinking adults.

I Am A John Galt Conservative
Anyone who paints their side as above reproach is blind to their own misdeeds... no offense man, but if all you can post is a bunch of Rush L. hate speech, you should just leave that to the professionals they do it better.

Danny
Could you link that? I had heard cheney bush were around 7-8% respectively & obama at like 3-4%... i'm not disputing the fact just the degree. Cuz no one outside of a nun gives away 20% of their income when you consider that 25% is taxed (which would leave only 55% of your income to live on)...