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Wednesday, May 21, 2008
Thomas Sowell :: Townhall.com Columnist
Summer Reading
by Thomas Sowell
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Some parents who are concerned about their children receiving a steady diet of liberal-left indoctrination in schools and colleges regard the summer vacation as a time to show these young people a different way of looking at things, with readings presenting viewpoints that are unlikely to be heard in classrooms that have become indoctrination centers.

Fortunately, there is a growing body of literature-- both books and articles-- presenting a very different viewpoint in readable language.

The academic year often ends with commencement speakers who have been in government, academia, foundations or various crusading movements, who tell the graduates how much nobler it is to go into such organizations, rather than into business.

Such self-flattering talk is seldom challenged by educators. But an outstanding recent book, "The Best-Laid Plans" by Randal O'Toole, gives a richly documented account of government actions and their consequences, and shows a far from flattering side of politicians, "experts," and environmentalists-- who have ruined cities and suburbs in countries around the world.

Highly praised projects created by leading "experts" have repeatedly led to economic and social disasters, whether in Europe or the United States. The fundamental problem is that people don't want to live the way elites want them to live.

A classic example was the Pruitt-Igoe project in St. Louis, which had an extraordinary vacancy rate of 25 percent, rising eventually to 65 percent, before the whole project was demolished.

But, tragically, the assumptions behind such projects have not been demolished.

One statistic in "The Best-Laid Plans" shoots down one of the biggest lies of the environmentalist movement-- that laws are needed to keep development from paving over the last remnants of open space. That statistic is that all the urban areas in the United States, put together, cover less than 3 percent of the land.

This statistic is all the more remarkable when you realize that O'Toole uses the Census definition of "urban"-- any community with at least 2,500 people. That would include towns and villages, as well as cities.

Another remarkable and eye-opening book is "Liberal Fascism" by Jonah Goldberg. So many liberals use the term "fascism" to condemn conservative ideas that it may come as a revelation to many that the original fascism was in fact a doctrine having far more in common with the left than with conservatism.

While people on the left may deny that today, when fascism first emerged back in the 1920s it was widely recognized as a kindred doctrine by the leftists of that era.

Only after the international aggressions of Mussolini and Hitler during the 1930s made them pariahs did the left start reclassifying fascists as being on the right.

Since this is an election year, there may be more interest than usual in Barack Obama. Best-selling author Shelby Steele's book on Obama, titled "A Bound Man," gives both facts and insights that will take the reader far deeper than most media accounts.

Among my own books, the one that will probably be of the most interest to young people with no knowledge of economics is "Basic Economics." Apparently many people find it easier to understand than most economics books, since it has been translated into six other languages overseas.

My latest book on economics, however, is the recently published "Economic Facts and Fallacies." It looks in-depth at fallacies about such things as housing, income, race, sex discrimination, the economics of academia and the Third World.

Fallacies are not just crazy ideas. Usually they are notions that sound very plausible, which is what enables them to be used by politicians, intellectuals, the media, and all sorts of crusading movements, to advance their causes or their careers.

It is precisely because most of the popular fallacies of our time, which are always especially popular during election years, sound so plausible that we need to stop, before we get swept along by rhetoric, and scrutinize the underlying flaws that turn brilliant-sounding "solutions" into recipes for disaster.

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Progressive Communists Liberals
They must "hijack" language in order to persuade their ignorant and uneducated (by design, think teacher's unions) captive audience. Tonight's vote in Oregon, the most divided state in the Union is a classic example of their ability to redefine language. This theory was first espoused by George Orwell in "1984," published in 1949. They have taken the ball and run with it ever since. "War is peace."

Sowell for President!
!

Before the BDS crowd shows up
I thought I should expand the quotes, since they're bound to claim that GWB is the epitome (use your dictionary, idiots) of "War is Peace." So here goes: “Big Brother is watching you." War is Peace, Freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength." "Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.” Sounds a lot like Barrack Hussien Obama bin Laden, doesn't it? "Change you can believe in."

summer reading
For the bibliophiles reading this article, you may want to check out goodreads.com. All kinds of people, all kinds of books. Great way to find out about new titles.

A friend asked me to be her "friend". When I posted "America Alone" on my read list someone asked to be my "friend", ("anyone who likes Steyn is a friend of mine"). Turns out he is a writer with 1000+ books on his "read" list and 300+ "friends".

It's fun and you can find your niche. It's pretty wild because people all over the world, literally are on the site.

Happy reading...I've got Jonah's book on my "to read" list and Basic economics by the bed!

I'll recommend
"My Grandfather's Son: A Memoir" by Clarence Thomas.

Any black person who dares to get off the plantation has to endure a lot of grief. (Just ask Sowell)

I listened to the audio book and Thomas narrates. I found it moving.

He and Sowell are good friends!

Calling all conservative readers...
Post your favorite conservative books!

Here's some of mine...


"America Alone" Steyn is a great writer!

"All the Shah's Men"

"Because They Hate"

"A History of the Middle East" Peter Mansfield

"Secrets of the Kingdom"

William Manchester's volumes on Churchill

Too many to list-

One of my favorite books of all time...

"The Color of Water, a Black Man's Tribute to His White Mother" by Jame McBride

(If you really want to know what a scumbag Obama really is...willing to deny half of what he is... and the half that took care of him!)




Hijacking Our language...

The hijacking of our language continues.

I have no facts to back this up, but I believe that percentage of professors in colleges, not counting those in the traditional sciences of Physics, Chemistry, and Math, must be similar in political beliefs as the Media.

Estimates run from 90% to 95% of all Media are leftists.

I have to believe Acadamia percentage is similar.

If anyone has 'believable' data to the contrary, please elucidate. (Wikipedia is not believable)

Warning! New Disease...
Obamaphilia : n.

Tertiary phase of Obamamania.

Characterized by leg shivers, fainting spells, Spontaneous O'Gasm, failure to hear or recognize O'Gaffes.



The secondary phase of Obamamania is often evidenced by chanting mindless phrases, inabilitity to hear facts, and constantly screaming RACISM.


A true public service!
Publishing a recommended reading list of this quality is a true public service -- the kind we ought to expect from our public intellectuals, but seldom get. Thank you, Dr. Sowell, and long may you write!

This is precisely what we need

We need a manual that permits us to repond instantaneously and eloquently as to why the idea should not be pursued. It also will reduce the size of the Democrat spouting such nonsense.

I welcome the opportunity and look forward to reviewing this book.

Clarence Thomas

I get why Sowell and Thomas are friends. I once met Clarence Thomas. I am afraid I liked the guy so much that as I was speaking to him, my daughter and her friend I patted him on the back.

I was explaining that if there ever was an arguement that we couldn't solve among ourselves that he would be one of the folks that would have the final word on the matter.



My recommendation
I recommend the series by Joel C. Rosenberg beginning with The Last Jihad.

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/The-Last-Jihad/Joel-C-Rose nberg/e/9780765346438/?itm=2

This series begins with terrorists flying jets into buildings and was written prior to 9-11. I originally started this series from a recommendation by one of the TH columnist and once started I was unable to put it down. To show you how popular it is the last book in the series had such a long waiting list for it at the library I went out and purchased my own copy.

For style and plot think Tom Clancy meets Indiana Jones while experiencing the “Left Behind”. Even people who don’t care much for religion will find this series outstanding.

More pearls from Dr. Sowell
I go to his articles first because I've always been drawn to really smart people, including all of my wives (#1 -Phd, #2 - MD, #3 - smart cookie and hopefully the last).

Bill Bennett's 2 volume History of the USA, The Last Best Hope, is easy, fun and essential reading for any citizen, young and old.

Joel Rosenburg's non-fiction Epicenter is also good for putting Israel and her neighbors in historical context. He will be in Tucson again this Sat, speaking on his forte, the ME in Bible prophesy.

On my fourth reading
of "No Place For Truth" by Prof. David Wells of Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary.

Puts the current philsophical-intellectual- theological paradigm into perspective and helps the objective Modernist and the dissatisfied believer get his/ her true bearings.

First of a four part series.


DOC
Are you trying to discuss Veblen with an American audience?Don't you think a refresher course should come first.If we review America,post WWII,we don't see many vibrant cities or suburbs.The aforementioned,was primarily provided by government.Look at 1928 to 2003 and we find the "Hand" of government everywhere.Saving American businesses has become a function of government.People don't have to follow the "Elite".But, most times they do,if they want to improve!!!SORRY..

Killer you have to go to the beginning
You start with unrestricted free trade. The government steps in with taxes. Then other constraints. The taxes fall because business gets bad. Government steps in again. Once you mount the tiger its hard to get off it. Its also called killing the goose that laid the golden egg. If you read Atlas Shrugged you MIGHT understand.

hagar
I loved "Atlas".Who was ever "Happy" in that book of characters.Capitalism is not being properly practiced in America.How is it that government gets the blame.Adam Smith spoke of people pursuing their own self interest.The first self interest should have been knowledge,of which many are still lacking.In the beginning,when there were no schools, there was still knowledge.Today we have millions of schools and little knowledge.As Ayn Rand showed, people often make bad "CHOICES".To marry someone you don't love and doesn't share your interest are bad Choices.You see I did read "Atlas Shrugged" and thousands of other books.Please!!!

professoriate swings left
To Ratas y Ratones who said: "I have no facts to back this up, but I believe that percentage of professors in colleges, not counting those in the traditional sciences of Physics, Chemistry, and Math, must be similar in political beliefs as the Media.

Estimates run from 90% to 95% of all Media are leftists" and asked for documentation:

Start with this article on the American Association of University Professors (AAUP) by Malcolm A. Kline: http://www.capitalresearch.org/pubs/pdf/OT0405.pdf
For example, Brown 54 professors registered with leftist parties, 3 right. U of Colorado 116 left, 5 right etc.

list of friends
How do I permanently delete the list of friends? Why do duplicates appear on the list? I have to erase the ones I don't use everytime I send an e-amil.

Ratas y Ratones
I believe those stats would prove most believable in the liberal arts programs. I am currently in an IT department and though they may be liberals, there is nothing to spout on the subject of politics in an IT class.

So, I was just backing your point a bit with a personal experience.

It is a wonder that the (probably) smartest teachers on the campus (IT most likely) are not the ones spouting liberal propaganda.

I agree with your statement though as in the "generals" I had to take, wow, liberal propaganda at its best.

Dick Durbin
The other senator from Illinois yesterday said high gasoline prices are all because of greedy oil companies.

Would it be possible from him to talk to Dr. Sowell and perhaps learn just a little economics before he just repeats the dem playbook standard answer.

Is there ever any thought?

Selling an idea
Conservatives have the better ideas, but liberals have the better slogans. Their marketing is better.

Tibby

Must Reads
Given today's political climate everyone must (re)read "Brave New World" by Aldous Huxley. If you can't see the 'happy' similarities of this 'Utopia' with the present drivel Obama offers then I recommend Dr. Seuss.

With the California Supreme Court's recent BS, everyone must read Mark Levin's 'Men In Black'.
Wear a sweater when you do. The cold chill than runs down your spine might cause a shiver.

I've finished both 'Liberal Fascism' and 'Facts and Fallacies' and would recommend them highly.

It's amazing what I wasn't taught in school. I should go to my alma maters and demand a refund!!! Thankfully, learning is a life-long process.

benehogan
Coming from the man that equated our military with Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot are you surprised? I live in this liberal he!!hole called Illinois where the Governors are all fast tracked for prison jumpsuits.
Durbin has got to go. Anyone who has any love for this country must help us defeat this incompitent, America hating jerk.

Killer then you should
know the difference between consumers and producers and motivation. Eliminate the motivation and you reduce the production the result is everyone is reduced. The idea is to raise the bar for everyone not lower it.

Fascism/Socialism
Terrific article!
The premise that until the 1920's the left decries all Fascism as "right-wing" is correct only as viewed through the left's view of history.
It is a shame that we do not use the proper name of the Nazi Party; its true name was the "National SOCIALIST Party"!!! Emphasis on Socialism. Their roots (and major sparring partners) were in their fight for votes from the socialist/communist groups of their early days.
Therefore, any regime that supresses truth to suspend freedom is fascist.

When will Libs answer this question?
Why do you think you know what is better for me and my family than I do?

This is the foundation of Liberalism, Progressivism, Communism, Fascism, Socialism, etc. (call it whatever you want, but they're all similar).

The American Experiment is founded on the basic principle of Individual Liberty. Why do these turds get anyone to listen/vote for them? Why do they hate my country and my constitution? Why am I so willing to fight for their right of self-determination and they fight to determine what is right for me?

I don't expect any answers because there is no logical basis for it. Every six year old grasps this concept when they say 'You're not the boss of me.' The Libs are clearly stuck in the preadolescent period of 'Yes, mommy. Whatever you say.'

Good grief. Heaven help us.

DocTony
While I agree with your question, "Why do you think you know what is better for me and my family than I do?” the same might be asked of those with a religious proclivity when it comes to wanting their specific subjective morals/values placed upon society.

It's worth exploring why ANYONE thinks that his or her subjective way of living need be imposed on others.

If Liberty is our greatest opportunity for choosing how one creates personal pursuit of happiness, why must it be that others, regardless of political persuasion, think that they hold the moral or value authority over others.

Laws created to acknowledge the civil liberties of others, endorses nothing more than understanding that each person can create the life he or she wishes to live at no cost to others.

So, back to your question reflected to you: "why do others think that they know best how others ought to live?"

Michael Yon's book
Thanks for many great suggestions. I am half way through Moment of Truth and not only is it an easy read but it has given me a glimpse into the good and bad of the war and an education into insurgencies.

scooternyc
I want to see some examples of that. Right now the religious folks do not want things forced on them, Not once in my life has a Christian person coerced me into doing something I did not want to do.

The only value I can think of that is now being broken is gay marriage, which in fact does not quite fit your description. Marriage is, by and large, a Christian ceremony. Gays can go do their own thing, so actually it is the gays moving in on the Christians.

You mention morals and values...such as what? Not to murder? tell lies? Im kinda lost on what you are trying to point where Christians are forcing their values on others.

Sowell
Great article. I always wonder if the dems actually believe the economical lies they spout. Common sense says otherwise on so many issues any educated person should be able to see right through them. During their speeches I almost start laughing at the false crap they spew.

NYCThe Answer is Explicitly spelled out:
I recommend you read a short document called the US Constitution. Specifically refer to the Bill of Rights, Ammendment 10.

The answer in short is Federalism. The US constitution clearly stipulated the role and responsibilities of the Federal government. It is not a living, breathing document subject to the whims of the social pressures of the day.

Those powers not enumerated in the Constitution are delegated to the states. These are the laboratories of democracy. They are the places most acountable to the people. I have an obligation to persuade my neighbors that my idea is best. They can raise their objections and offer alternatives or they can discount my idea and ignore my idea. But nowhere is it written that any branch can foist, by fiat, their brand of do-goodism onto me. No where is it authorized to invent 'rights' that are nowhere enumerated.

The simple truth is that I will fight for my ideas and discuss them openly with my neighbors. I will accept their criticism and suggestions. I will not hide behind the skirts of bureaucratic shenanigans to enact laws that do not represent the will of the people.

It's WE THE PEOPLE, scooter. It's right there in bold letters on the Constitution. Even the founders recognized that eventually government would grow and become the enemy they feared it would become. Maybe that's why they wrote We THE PEOPLE in bold face.

So the question remains: Why do Libs think they know what is better for me and my family (or your family for that matter)? Why did the founders have more faith in the individual spirit than current Lib pols? Have we become the incompetent boobs Libs believe us to be? Why aren't you willing to accept personal responsibilities for your decisions and actions? Does your mother still cut your meat?

Reading List
I'd recommend the following:

1. Blacklisted by History by Evans, learn about the Marxists (Communist/Socialists), the "Progressives" that have in-filtrated all levels of Government-Senator McCarthy was right.

2. Shadow Warriors by Timmerman, learn about the Marxists (Communists/Socialists) in all levels of Government today. They are known as "Progressives" or "Secular Progressives".

3.Recklist Disregard, Dereliction of duty and War Crimes by Lt. Col. "Buzz" Patteson, learm how he witnessed the Secular Progressive Clintons at work.

Gnome sane
You might also like "A Time of Departing" by Ray Yungen.

Recommended to me by my pastor's wife.

"How ancient mystical practices are uniting Christians with the world's religions"

In my opinion we are seeing the birthing of the apostate church.

Constitution
No doubt I agree that our Constitution relegates personal accountability to each individual, thereby compelling him or her to be response-able to individual choice.

At the most objective reduction of our Constitution, it embraces all human liberty with choice of life and direction laid at the feet of the individual, apparently we agree.

However, the most recent example of the gay marriage issue in California reflects that those who have a religious slant on life "believe" this behavior is against their subjective morals and values.

No one would have issue then with the religious not being gay and not getting married. To exclude a particular group in society BECAUSE someone has a differing viewpoint based on religion is going against the idea then of human liberty, freedom of choice, and pursuit of happiness.

Shared or agreed values/morals are not credential to impose such on others.

If, as one has put it, that marriage is a religious function, then all marriage outside of a civil union must stop being given tax acknowledgement and benefit. Further, all those married in the church can be recognized by the government only for the sole purpose of allocating equality within the marriage upon dissolution, should it occur, during divorce proceedings.

Abortion, sex ed, science, as examples, are again, having those with dissimilar viewpoints about these subjects, imposing their particular value or morality regarding such.

Faith Based Initiatives are another example of imposing religion on society.

Religious people therefore are okay with pedophiles, murderers, thieves and other such transgressions as they endorse the benefit of marriage to these individuals - but not the gays. It's quite the concern of such illogic mindedness.

this is fun!

I also give a thumbs up to Epicenter and Men in Black.


Bill's book look intriguing.

I've got "The Betrayers" by Phyllis Schlafly and Chester Ward (former Rear Admiral, US Navy, former member of CFR, he blew the whistle on their treasonous activities) Haven't read it yet.


I would also recommend "The Rockefeller File" by Gary Allen

And "The True Story of the Bilderberg Group" by Estulin

If you want to know more about the coming "new world order" aka one world gov.


I recently read "The Forgotten Man". It was by a member of CFR and I wanted to see what a traitors take would be on the depression. In her opinion all the smart people were looking to Russia for new ideas. Very chummy towards socialism/Marxism. A lot of those people around FDR.

Same types around Wilson too.

DocTony
To answer your question about liberals (who are anything but liberal), one can turn to ANY group as this question is not exclusive to liberals: liberal, conservative, religious, atheist, et.al - each group "believes" their subjective way of life is the best way to live and must be imposed on others, as such that others are incapable of making the decisions for personal pursuit of happiness on their own.

It's what makes the Constitution so amazing - over 200 years ago these amazing men reduced such arguments of subjectivity down to objectivity and wrote into law that each was responsible for his or her own personal pursuit of happiness - however, wherever, whichever path he or she chooses - at no cost to others by infringing on individual human civil liberty.

It's this very individual human civil liberty that the Dems want us to ignore by not invading Iraq or other such nations who ignore basic human liberty. The U.N. is one of the worst transgressors of such lack of human liberty.

It's also the LACK of human civil liberty from within that those who think bullies can be reasoned with.

Here is now to Whip Lib's Butts .
One of the best Books ever on how to easily kick Libearal Butts with Facts ..... Now who's ,not Myphs , maybe's , You heards or they said , you saw it on MSNBC OR CNN AND READ IT IN THE NY Times .
The Book is
CONSERVATIVE
COMEBACKS
TO
LIBERAL
LIES
BY GREGG JACKSON
2006- 2007 edition
HE DOES LIBEARL CLAIM FIRST
THEN A SHORT CONSERVATIVE RESPONSE
THEN A VERY LONG PROVEN FACTUAL ONLY EASY TO CHECK OUT RESPONSE
This Young man appeared on C-SPAN TV and HIT A HOME RUN WITH LIBERAL QUESTIONERS AND SO CALLED SMART LIBERAL GUY THAT WAS AS DUMB AS A DOOR WHEN HE COULD NOT STAND BRIAN TO BRAIN AND FACT TO FACT WITH GREGG JACKSON .
WALTER WILLIAMS RECOMENDS THIS BOOK . .
I AM WAITING FOR A NEW ONE TO BE UPDATED ESPECIALLY ON GLOBAL WARMING AND OBOMA .



Sowell loves statistics
But statistics aren't fire-breathing, emotional, family-loving, needy human beings.

After reading a Sowell grievance that he couldn't understand why blacks were marching on Washington when all the statistics were looking so good I began noticing in his columns his love of and dependence upon statistics. But they just aren't real, live human beings.

Only three percent of the United States is urban? What does that mean to human beings? I bet it is something that Sowell will never addressin this column, much less understand.

ReCon-USMC
Ever wonder, ReCon, why it is conservatives who have flocked to a denunciation of global warming? This is a very interesting phenomena. Think about it. You might expect that when something new comes along you'd get a more random breakdown of opinion, some on this side, some on the other. So why the massive, I mean truly massive, flocking to global warming denunciation by conservatives?

It's my belief that global warming threatens creationism and that is why the flocking. If conservatives recognize the science that supports global warming there is that "slippery slope" fear that they would be pressured to accept the science that supports evolution, and this they cannot face. At least not yet.

Think about it.


scooternyc
"Abortion, sex ed, science, as examples, are again, having those with dissimilar viewpoints about these subjects, imposing their particular value or morality regarding such."

Please tell me how the liberals, who impose what they like on the kids, are not doing as you are explaining.

Abortion, its simply murder...to say otherwise is ridiculous. You are killing a baby. So are you saying you advocate muurder?>

sexed...parents do not want the schools teaching 10 year olds to put on a condom. Sexed should not be taught in the schools to begin with. Why should the non-religious be able to impose on the children of the religious?

Science...how about you see the movie expelled and we will see who is imposing on others. Religious people simply want their view regarded since science has no proof of anything.

Everything you talked about above is not the religious imposing their beliefs but rather the exact opposite. Anything religious is taken out, or should I say anything Christian.

"Religious people therefore are okay with pedophiles, murderers, thieves and other such transgressions as they endorse the benefit of marriage to these individuals - but not the gays. It's quite the concern of such illogic mindedness."

What are you crazy? This just proves the fallacy in your logic. None of those things go against the institution of marriage. Not that I want any of them married. The religious institution of marriage is defined as a man with a woman, not a murder with a non-murder.

Your logic above proves you are beyond regular reasoning and will say anything to push against anything religious, sorry our conversation is over.

DocTony
I think a couple of people have answered your question about why liberals think they know better than you on how you should run your life, by essentially asking why you think you know better than us.

I'm not sure they said it bluntly, but by your own principles you should believe that people should make their own choices about abortion, suicide, etc.

I, for one, believe you and your family should be able to live your lives in the way you want to up to the point where it gets complicated by people having different aims and beliefs. What is known as "shared social space." At that point we need to sit down and figure out how each of us can make choices that minimize the problems our choices may make for other people. It isn't simple. Obama's the only one who get it.

Proud liberal
3% of US citizens are urban? Boy, you have trouble don't you...can't even decipher a main point in the article. Maybe you should reread the article and post again.

us against global warming? here is your reason:

The liberals want to change our way of life over something that has no proof behind it. You will actually see many conservatives say the globe is warming, but not due to human activities. We do not want our country to be ruined over libs wanting to stop us from driving cars, heating our homes, eating our food, going on vacation, using energy etc...over something that is not proven.

Proud liberal to DocTony
umm...such as taking away our energy? Regulating business out of the US?

"asking why you think you know better than us."

thats a new one! haha!

That is communism bud! thanks for showing your colors!


"Liberal Fascism"
By all means read "Liberal Fascism." Then go to Salon.com and look up the interview that the Salon reporter did with Goldberg about the book. This was published within the last month or two I think.

It's a fair and balanced interview. However, be prepared, you will see Goldberg get tripped up on his logic on a couple of occassions. But this isn't a case where the author is hostile and looking for a "gotcha." Goldberg's logic is just a little furry on its own.

Proud Lib
As any good Lib, you misquoted my answer and tried to pass it off as fact. Well done.

The answer I gave was a very short one that even a Lib with your limited attention span should have been able to follow. It was: read the US Constitution.

In case you missed it, we live in a representative democracy as established through the ratification of the US Constitution. Nowhere did I suggest that "we should be able to live our lives as we wish". We have an obligation and a long standing tradition to follow the 'rule of law' in this nation. A tradition which has been responsible for the peaceful transition of power since its inception. A policy which has allowed for the abolition of slavery despite wrong-headed Judicial activism at the higest levels. A policy that has established enumerated civil rights despite the continual attempts of many to impose or invent non-existent rights. Notice I didn't say they excused past failures, so beg off that red-herring.

Federalism, a system built right into the US Constitution (See 10th Amendment), does not allow me any more rights than my neighbor. It doesn't give me the right to invent rights that do not exist or behave as only I see fit. Nor does it give me the right to force upon my neighbor my perception of make believe rights upon them.
Lady, you just don't get it. I will fight tirelessly to give you the right to self determination while you will instead fight to tell me what's best for me and bypass the established 200+ year system that has established the rule of law in this great country. Why do you hate my country? Why do you hate my constitution? It has nothing to do with my religion or lack thereof. It has to do with the rule of law. I, and my neighbors, are that law as defined in the Constitution.

Scooter
Your posts are a bit schitzophrenic. If you believe in the rule of law as established through the US Constitution and the individual state Constitutions, I'm not sure what your point is about the points you raise.

As pertains to your gay marriage comments: Where is it supported in the California constitution(or US Constitution) that allows 4 judges to rescind the will of the voting public by overturning the previously passed proposition? Are you suggestion that only religious zealots voted for the proposition and that no religious people voted against it? Am I to understand that you have irrefutable evidence that there were no atheists who voted for the propositon? Or perhaps you're just passing on sterotypes that you scream about when others inappropriately do the same. Ah hypocrite, thy name is scooternyc.

Fortunately, the California Constitution has a provision to overcome the Judicial activists that attempted to overturn the will of the people. Maybe you have some inside tract on how the atheists will be voting on the proposed constitutional ammendment. You seem to have your finger on the pulse of the people. Or maybe you just know what's best for us. Do you have a little red book or something that we could all read so we will better know how to behave?

Recon
I haven't finished it, but sorta like yours.

"I Don't Have Enough Faith to be an Atheist" Geisler/Turek

Logic and Reason


For example... "There is no absolute truth"

Is that absolutely true?

DocTony
We may have to be ready to fight back after these activist judges go wild after Obama makes it in the House. And after Congress is filibuster proof.

Lets hope for the best. Lets hope it won't take a revolution.

Facts and Fallacies
I have never endured an argument with a 'liberal' wherein any fact held sway. In a conversation yesterday, I uncovered that a 'liberal' friend thought the Democrat Party had begun about the time of Wilson. This from a college-educated, fifty-plus, retired white man raised in VA and schooled by wealthy parents in Europe... yet full of self-righteousness and outright scorn for anyone who might challenge with mere facts his views on Iraq, the Clintons (although he's a recent convert to St Obama) the Democrat Party, and his version of American evil.
John Henry Newman wrote somewhere that it is as absurd to try to argue men, as torture them, into believing. Reason may sharpen your argument, but it isn't an effective tool up against human passions.... like 'quarrying rock with a razor blade.'

CKHustler
Hope is great, but action will get results.
Your obligation is to work in your local community and state to help select members of Congress that will prevent exactly what you fear. So get out there and let your friends and neighbors know why the candidate that supports originalism on the bench are best for preserving the American way of life. Put a sign in your yard, write a letter to the editor, walk in a rally--just do something!!!

Otherwise, we may never be able to undo the damage that could be done. Does 1973 ring a bell?

"HYSTERIA:


Titled "HYSTERIA: Exposing the secret agenda behind today's obsession with global warming," Whistleblower tells the rest of the story the "mainstream press" will never reveal.

To begin with, those who believe the dire warnings of today's establishment press should know, as U.S. Sen. James Inhofe has pointed out, that "for more than 100 years, journalists have quoted scientists predicting the destruction of civilization by, in alternation, either runaway heat or a new Ice Age."

Believe it or not, over the last century America's major media have predicted an impending global climate crisis four different times – each prediction warning that entire countries would be wiped out or that lower crop yields would mean "billions will die." In 1895, the panic was over an imminent ice age. Later, in the late 1920s, when the earth’s surface warmed less than half a degree, the media jumped on a new threat – global warming, which continued into the late 1950s. Then in 1975, the New York Times' headline blared, "A Major Cooling Widely Considered to Be Inevitable." Then in 1981 it was back to global warming, with the Times quoting seven government atmospheric scientists who predicted global warming of an "almost unprecedented magnitude."
A Must read !


Ann Writes
Subject: Recon
I haven't finished it, but sorta like yours.

"I Don't Have Enough Faith to be an Atheist" Geisler/Turek

Logic and Reason


For example... "There is no absolute truth"

Is that absolutely true?
_________________________

Yes Ms Ann there are some absolutes truths in life ..... Plato said there is no right and wrong when referring to no absolute truth .
Since I lived a life the Elite rich thinker Plato(with slavery ) never lived. So he saw no wrong in Slavery or throwing Christians to the Lions . No Wrong there ?
if he has spent some time with me in War , BUSINESS and Peace he would have never said that crap that is sadly taught in all our colleges now a days and worst totally believed BY AIR HEADS .
Liberalism is based on EMOTIONS AND FEELING.... NO MARINES THERE . EMOTIONS AND FEELING.in its self is wrong and untrue for a better Self , world and country .
A cool mind , Economic's , reserach , common sense .examing the all there is when that is said .. it is 99.9 % truthful so is rapped in Logic and reason.If the soul and mind is open and doesn't have a selfish motive , agenda of deception or lies to win for the moment but really lose in the end or harm many .
In LAW this is called Discovery !
Liberal Polticians don't live by that moral ethical principled standard because the media is their Guard Dogs and well feed .
Hence Emotions and Feeeling WINS SADLY .
.



Pro Lib - conservative = creationism? NO
How can we get across the point that there are fiscal convervatives who are socially liberal. There are social conservatives who are fiscally liberal. Many conservatives feel that George Bush is not a fiscal conservative. Many conservatives feel that John McCain is neither socially nor fiscally conservative - but he is strong on defense, that's something.

Not all (fiscal or social) conservatives are Republicans. I have socially conservative friends who are radical Jewish democrats. I have socially conservative Catholic relatives who are ardent democrats. I have many socially liberal friends who vote Republican or (pro-war) Libertarian.

Not all (fiscal or social) conservatives are Christians. Many are Jewish, many are agnostic or atheist (like me). Some are Buddhists, some are Muslims, etc.

Not all Christians, indeed most, believe Creationism is anything other than sloppy thinking and bad science. Most Christians have absolutely no connection to Creationism or any of its tenets. There is a small minority of Christians who are passionate about the topic but they don't represent all Christians, let alone all (fiscal or social) conservatives.

Oh yes, most Christians are strong supporters of the scientific method including Darwin's theory of evolution.

So to say that conservatives are anti-global warming because of creationism is just wrong. Also, the phrase "global warming denunciation" implies that there is such a thing as global warming. No one really knows, and no, there is no "consensus" among scientists. Quite the contrary.

The earth might be warming or not. One good volcanic eruption can easily exceed or negate the contributions of a century or two of any possible human-induced global warming or cooling.

The earth is still coming out of the last ice age and yes, there might be some warming happening. That's a good thing. I live in Minnesota. I am strongly in favor of as much global warming as possible. :-)

Another Sowell book
Sowell's Quest for Cosmic Justice is practically essential reading for anyone wanting to articualte conservative principles today.

Understand the enemy
"The Looming Tower" by Lawrence Wright gives in-depth information on the leaders of Radical Islam, their lives and philosophies. It shows in their own words that they hate the West because of our liberty, and think that it is inevitable that the entire world should submit to Islam.

Non Political Reads
Despite the strong tendency to list books with a political stripe, consider some classics.

I would recommend any three of Shakespeare's historica plays: My choices would include Julius Caesar, Henry V and Rchard I.

They teach a lesson about power, politics and the foundations of what eventually morphed into America from a seventeenth century British perspective.

Oops
Try Richard III.

I don't think he ever published Richard I. Maybe his editor didn't care for it.

autobiographies
I like autobiographies too

Rick Braggs, "All Over But the Shoutin" (strong southern voice)

Pat Conroy's "The Water is Wide" (his first book and still one of my favorites)

"Gal: A True Life", Ruthie Bolton

"Daughter of the Queen of Sheeba" Jackie Lyden (her mom was manic depressive)

"A Child Called "It": One childs courage to survive" Dave Pelzer (heart breaking)

"Angela's Ashes" (really awesome if you listen to it recorded. Author reads it and with his voice and accent it is even more powerful)


"The Color of Water" by James McBride (This is the most beautiful book! You will laugh and weep!)





“To read a writer is for me not merely to get an idea of what he says, but to go off with him and travel in his company.”
- Andre Gide


for the young at heart...

“The more you read, the more things you will know. The more that you learn, the more places you'll go.”
- Dr. Seuss, "I Can Read With My Eyes Shut!"


humorists too!
P.G. Wodehouse (Is SOOO Funny)

"It is understandable, of course. If a fellow has forced you against your better judgemnt to go wading in the Trafalgar Square fountain at five in the morning, ruining your trousers and causing you to be pinched and jugged and generally put through it by the machinery of the Law, no doubt you do find youself coming round to the view that what he needs is disembowelling with a blunt bread-knife. This, among other things, was what Gussie hoped some day to be able to do to Catsmeat, if all went well, and, as I say, one could follow the train of thought."


Patrick McManus...funny guy stuff, many pratfalls, misadventures, friends named "Wretch Sweeney"


Calvin Trillin....dry sardonic humor. Short story "Geography" about he and his sister negotiating the territory of the back seat of the car as kids!..."we don't hit girls"...so she was Russia bristling with arms and he was Switzerland! Tummy Trilogy very funny too.


Some recommendation's from one of the "delicately nurtured" as Wodehouse would say!

Outrgeous Incomes
Who benefits from million dollar plus incomes? Big governemnt, they get half. Who pays..............Us, the consumer !

Talk about a hidden tax.

Most Christians?
Interesting your point about "most" christians several times in your post. Please submit the data to prove this.

CKHustler


"Ratas y Ratones
I believe those stats would prove most believable in the liberal arts programs. I am currently in an IT department and though they may be liberals, there is nothing to spout on the subject of politics in an IT class.

So, I was just backing your point a bit with a personal experience.

It is a wonder that the (probably) smartest teachers on the campus (IT most likely) I agree with your statement though as in the "generals" I had to take, wow, liberal propaganda at its best. "

~~~~~~~~~
My point was, other than the 'Sciences' and I named a few, should also have included most of the Engineering studies, in the statement.

I suspect this would include IT.

Not sure what this is, because I be olde phart.
(Former Prof in Electrical Engineering. Yes, I even saw a very few libs in this group too.)

More Suggestions
Three more suggestions for college students' summer reading:

A Conflict of Visions by Thomas Sowell (different views of human nature that underlie conservative, libertarian, and liberal thinking)

Freudian Fraud by E. Fuller Torey (a great read; explains how the popularization of Freud's theory through influential media outlets such as "Look" magazine in the 1950s changed sexual mores and child-rearing in the United States)

Free to Choose by Milton Friedman

The complete PBS series based on Friedman's book is available free of charge on ideachannel.tv. My son will begin his last year of college in the fall, and I am requiring him to watch and summarize all ten episodes as a condition for my financial support of his final year of college. He was dreading it, but by the middle of the first installment, he was hooked. Now he says, "Why doesn't everyone believe in free markets? It's just common sense." Would that it were so...

kindel ~ Thanks for the info.
Start with this article on the American Association of University Professors (AAUP) by Malcolm A. Kline: http://www.capitalresearch.org/pubs/pdf/OT0405.pdf
For example, Brown 54 professors registered with leftist parties, 3 right. U of Colorado 116 left, 5 right etc.

DocTony
Your recommendation of Brave New World is something I concur with. Hey, it should be a required read for HS graduation. Unfourtunately, since it describes the ideal society in the eyes of YoBama and his cronies it's destined for the academic shredder.

DocTony
Your recommendation of Brave New World is something I concur with. Heck, it should be a required read for HS graduation. Unfourtunately, since it describes the ideal society in the eyes of YoBama and his cronies it's destined for the academic shredder.

Sowell is the best!
I can not say enough about this guy. He is so inciteful. He makes the morons in Washington exactly what they sound like- MORONS!!

Dr. Sowell does it again
An earlier writer commented on going to Dr. Sowell's articles in Townhall first. So do I!

This man is a genius without doubt. Every article of his that I've read over the past several months have reinforced my conservative beliefs and I'm not a young man.

I wonder how long it will take for the average American to realize that our educational system is undermining our democracy at a very rapid pace. There must be somewhere that our young people can be educated about the real history of this country and not the recently fabricated leftist version.

I was recently asked by a 5th grader in our church what the word "iota" meant. In reading the context surrounding the word I discovered this statement, roughly translated. 'Since the civil rights movement of the 60's, things haven't changed one iota.' I couldn't believe that sentence. I didn't read the whole paper and in the circumstance that I was asked the question, it wasn't appropriate to challenge the idea being stated. Needless to say I was appalled.

As I indicated I'm not a young man and have lived through the 60's and while we're still a long way from perfection when it comes to race relations, I can assure anyone that things have changed radically from when I was growing up and I might add that with few exceptions, for the betterment of all races in this country.

Of course
Another home run. But to tell you the truth, Dr. Sowell should
have cut to the point. He should just tell people to read all his books ASAP. He is the BEST and his 2 books he mentioned are wonderful
but so are the rest. How do you choose among so many greats?
I hope he continues writing.

My newest fav book
I confess that I mostly *read* during my commute by using books on CD from booksfree.com. A few weeks ago I *read* Dr. Sowell's "Black Rednecks and White Liberals" and that was the start of a journey for me, leading me her to Townhall and the book I just finished this morning, "FDR's Folly: How Roosevelt and His New Deal Prolonged the Great Depression" by Jim Powell. It gets a bit droning when driving, but altogether it was a real eye-opener and I can sure see how it applies to today's events and economy.


Children's reading for July 4th
I know this is off topic-it's not economics related material, but it is a gap in the education of many of today's children. I included the amazon.com link for your web browser.



The Declaration of Independence:The Words that Made America (original text) illustrated by Sam Fink

http://www.amazon.com/Declaration-Independence-Sam-Fink/dp/ 0439703158/ref=pd_bbs_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1211497474&sr=8 -4

Sketches along side the original text cleverly illustrate the main ideas so that even children can understand.


Paul Revere's Ride (original text)by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow illustrated by Ted Rand

http://www.amazon.com/Paul-Reveres-Henry-Wadsworth-Longfell ow/dp/0525446109/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1211497592& sr=1-1

A GORGEOUS book full of paintings along side the poem.


Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death Speech by Patrick Henry

You can get it off the internet, but it's also in:

Our Country's Founders: A Book of Advice For Young People edited by William J. Bennett

http://www.amazon.com/Our-Countrys-Founders-William-Bennett /dp/0689844697/ref=pd_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1211497675& sr=1-2

Loaded with first source materials from the Founders.

Public Education the root of evil
Americans think that Public Education is not the training ground of Socialism/Communism! One of the worst ones is none other than Mr. Sowell! He lists all the evils of present education, better than anyone!

His words get more specific in condemnation, when in reality his words are really nothing but sort of trying to run a house of prostitution completely moral.

His own words are the best proof that things are getting worse, as more and more money is dumped into that non-constitutional system.


Pansies....
Progressive National Socialists

You heard it here first....

Let's do some math...
Take all the people in the world, let's say 6,800,000,000 and put them in the state of Texas. Total size of Texas is 266,807 sq mi. Divide the population by the size and you get 25,486 person per sq mile which is less than population density of New York City from 2000 census (26,403 persons per sq mile). Numbers don't lie. Enviro-wackos, do you still think that we have that big of effect on mother Earth? Think again.

John M Cain
It has also been said that every human body in the world could fit into an empty Loch Ness. I found that astounding.

Better Stats
Sowell says:
That statistic is that all the urban areas in the United States, put together, cover less than 3 percent of the land.

But what is the percentage of land that is habitable? So the 3% statistic is correct and yet meaningless. A better statistic would be of all the land that is inhabited how much does the urban area represent? Since we know most of the U.S. population lives in cities on the coasts it would make that percentage of the land much greater than 3%. Statistics don't lie, but liars use statistics.
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