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Tuesday, February 19, 2008
Thomas Sowell :: Townhall.com Columnist
'Supporting the Troops'
by Thomas Sowell
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The Berkeley city council has made national news by telling Marine Corps recruiters that they are unwelcome in that bastion of the academic left.

It is a shame that Berkeley is not on some island in the South Pacific, because then they could be given their independence and left to defend themselves.

As it is, members of our armed forces who put their lives on the line to defend America are also defending people like too many in Berkeley for whom the very word America, and the American flag, bring only sneers.

Unfortunately, Berkeley is not unique. A professor at Harvard who put an American flag on his car after 9-11 provoked looks of astonishment from his colleagues. They wondered what was wrong with him.

All across the country, there are professors who push for keeping military recruiters off campus and for banning ROTC. Apparently if they don't like the military, then other people -- such as students -- should not be allowed to make up their own minds whether they want to join or not.

Liberals in general, and academics in particular, like to boast of their open-mindedness and acceptance of non-conformity. But they mean not conforming to the norms of society at large.

They have little or no tolerance to those who do not conform to the norms of academic political correctness. Nowhere else in America is free speech so restricted as on academic campuses with speech codes.

In Berkeley, as elsewhere, the left has learned to cloak their anti-military intolerance with the magic words, "We support the troops." The liberal media use the same line when they undermine the military.

In this, as in other things, the flagship of the media is the New York Times. Unsubstantiated charges against American troops in Iraq are front page news but incredible acts of heroism in battle are seldom reported there, if at all.

Although things go wrong in every war, things that went wrong in Iraq -- whether large or small -- have been front page news in the New York Times. But when the military surge was followed by things going right, the Iraq war was suddenly no longer front page news.

Back during the Vietnam war, the media criticized the American military for their emphasis on enemy casualties or "body count." Today the media have been fixated on American body count.

What has been accomplished by the troops who lost their lives in battle has been of no interest to those who claim to be "supporting the troops."

That thousands of Iraqis who fled the country during the height of the violence and turmoil are now returning is no big deal to the media.

Those in the military who made this possible by putting their own lives on the line are not heroes to the media. Indeed, one of the consistent patterns in the liberal media has been to depict the troops not as heroes but as victims.

The financial problems of some reservists who were called away from their civilian jobs were front page news in the New York Times. So were sorrowful goodbyes from family and friends.

All these things made the troops victims. So does body count.

Just last month, the New York Times found yet another way to portray the troops as victims. They ran a very long article, beginning on the front page of the January 13th issue, about killings in the United States by combat veterans returning from Iraq and Afghanistan.

"In many of those cases," it said, "combat trauma and the stress of deployment" were among the factors which "appear to have set the stage for a tragedy that was part destruction, part self-destruction."

As with so many other things said by liberals, the big question that was not asked was: Compared to what?

As the New York Post reported a couple of days later, the murder rate among returning military combat veterans is one-fifth that of civilians in the same age brackets.

So much for "supporting the troops" by depicting them as victims.

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Paolo
I wanted to give you some credit. Though I do not agree a lick with regards to your position on foriegn policy, I want to thank you for having the stones to be honest. You said you do not support the troops since you do not support their actions. This statement shows courage, since many attempt to dance around the issue.

As for Ron Paul, I think his foriegn policy ideas are naive in the extreme. And calling the war in Iraq one of "conquest" is equally absurd.

That said, at least you did not sugar coat your opinion, or try and ride the fence as so many who are against this war have. For that, you get some respect from this man.

Granola
While in the Army, I had the misfortune of being stationed in San Francisco for a couple of years. For fun, some of us would go to Berkeley to gawk at the local denizens. We referred to the weirdos as "granola", the "fruits, nuts and flakes" that made up the local population. I'm not surprised that the granolas are still there, still in charge. Nor would I be surprised if lilly is amongst them!

Government trucks save big bucks!
Thomas, you seem like a pretty sharp guy, have you ever invented anything? To be REALLY creative, you have to make that mental 'hop' OFF of the government chuck wagon that you seem to be hanging onto for dear life. Waving a flag around does not make one a patriot. Thinking does. Thinking in brand-new creative ways that'll see us divorced off that oil. You read Atlas Shrugged, so did I, Rearden metal, whole trip, in theory, you understand the Bigger Story, here, and that's how Big Oil has been a Big Pain in the Neck for a long time in terms of not exploring new fields of thinking instead of oil fields in other people's countries. I really don't care what they do, I really don't care what you do, or what the army does, we all have to make different decisions, but I'm studying how to let the sun shine in, which is an idea I think Ayn Rand herself would've probably favored over what's going on today. I mean, if you're for the basic enslavement of the Iraqi people and all that, well, ok, but I got off the plantation, and I invite you to do the same.
Self-reinforcing patterns never change, will YOU?

FALSE PREMISE
Sowell claims that the military is protecting everyone in the country, including the people of Berkeley. This is not the case. The military is conducting wars of conquest and occupation in countries on the far side of the globe. This is not protecting our citizens; in fact, it is making them more vulnerable to attack by stirring up hatred against this country.

It is true that you cannot support the troops without supporting their mission. Since their mission is obviously meddle in places where we have no business meddling, I don't support them--not at all.

Until we have a non-interventionist foreign policy, as advocated by Ron Paul and other libertarians, our military will continue create more problems for our citizens, rather than protect them.

War is dangerous?
I recently read a comment, I think it was a letter to the editor of a magazine, stating that we are just now finding out how dangerous this war really is. Really? War is dangerous? I have nothing but the utmost respect and admiration for those who serve, but we who aren't in their boots should realize that they weren't sent over there to pick flowers.

Lilly
You are an ignorant, hairy, smelly blow-hole.

jOHN kONOP
Im sure that the boys at Valley Vorge when Gen Washington ask them to hold on when they where cooking their own shoes to eat for food that they were complaining about beeing STRETCHED TO THIN. They were American Patriats which allot of you on here would now nothing about since yo have never serve or protected your country before/ They had soldiers freezing and starving to death and still had the Patriatism and love for their country to carry on and not whine about everything that you LIBS whine about today.
It would do some of you LIBS justice to go back and read about the Continental War

Im sure that we would still be speaking British and asking ourselves what would have happened if they gave up like you LIBS wanted the TROOPS to do in IRAQ

P.S.
The only reason people pick on lilly is that low-hanging fruit is the easiest to pick.

You might be a socialist/liberal if . .
you roll your eyes when the the guy in front of you in line at the cash register at Wendy's asks for a "military discount."

you view the United States as a rogue nation.

you believe it's our own fault that our enemies hate us.

you think fighting for your country is unpatriotic.

you actually believe violence never solved anything.

you think wars are best ended by treaties rather than victory.

you have ever uttered with sincerity the phrase, "Give peace a chance."

you are afraid of guns.

you believe that anyone who owns or carries a gun will inevitably kill someone.

you think banning guns from honest citizens enhances public safety.

you think a citizen defending self and family with deadly force should be criminalized.

you allege that the second amendment has anything to do with hunting.

the only similarity you don't see between the Vietnam and Iraq conflicts is that certain groups are "invested in defeat."

Left enables enemies
The American left has for some decades been a cheer-leading squad for enemies of the United States, no matter how heinous. That would be bad enough, but in addition, they heap abuse on this country's military or portray them as sad sack losers and "victims" who have been driven to suicide or homicidal rage by their service.

The documented truth is that the US military is the best trained and disciplined in the world, and its personnel slightly better educated than the general population. When they return from service, they have more character and are better qualified to lead by example than all the university weenies who spent their spare time picketing ROTC offices and otherwise interfering with other people's free speech.

It is the Left that prolongs every military engagement and currently has cost more American and Iraqi civilian lives by giving comfort and actual aid to the Islamists(exposing terrorist tracking programs, giving terrorists legal rights). Iraq's insurgents were on the ropes, and would have been vanquished long ago, but their hopes rose with the fortunes and idiocies of the Democrats and their servile handmaidens in the media.

Instead of a Tokyo Rose and Axis Sally trying to demoralize American troops from abroad, we have New York Rose and Wapo Sally on the east coast, and LATASS to the west. This steady stream of enemy propaganda has turned enough people's heads to mush that there is a real danger of ending up with a cardboard cutout President called Obama who is a marxist through and through with a matching red wife who has said "she has not been proud of her country for 26 years".


What is amazing is
that these people and most liberals in general, who want nothing to do with the military, have the gall to try to direct this war and call the shots militarily. You numbskulls know nothing and should have the common sense to stay on the sidelines, and let the military handle it's own affairs. They don't want or need your help - just get the heck out of the way!

(tr), re:your 4:19 post
It's pasted on the wall of your Kindergarden class!

Mrs Paddy
per your 1:00 p.m. post..I like your style. Glad your mercenary is home safely.
It's not feeding the trolls in this instance, it's righteous anger.
Don't ya just love the sanctimony in the use
of warmongers as a perjorative. Lilly is old enough to have experienced W.W.2, so she KNOWS
that there are just wars. I don't know what happened in her life to make her so bitter and miserable, she's to be pitied more than anything.
I'm more than proud of my boys service, the elder extended to go to Lakehurst for Naval Security duty, both did reserves after discharge.
And very proud of my grandson. Lilly doesn't know what patriotic pride is. I'm also proud of my older sons wife, a radioman Navy.
The 60's LSD burnouts aren't going to relive their glory daze slamming my kids like they did their Dad's generation without hearing from me.
Notice how often they crawl out from under their rocks since nanny Pelousy took charge.

Baseball Doc
In response to your Cowboy comments. I think Wade is okay. Parcells was good, he did his part to turn things around. He did not use TO correctly, however. You must use motion for him. Romo will mature. I like the direction the team is going. The defense imporved as the season progressed.
As for Ralph and Anthony, I know they still have love for you man.

Jim
Sorry, I re-read your post after I posted my response. Thanks for your feedback.


POLMsgt
Thanks to you and your family for your service...and anyone else posting here who has served in the military. My sincerest thanks.

"dangerously thin"
....is a liberal's understanding of what the military does for this country.

From serving in foreign wars to domestic disasters they are on site. If you think the numbers are 'dangerously thin' you can join the military. It is a 100% volunteer army.

AIDS Syndrome
Started to post a message. After reading more posts than I should have, I said what's the use! Too many people have the AIDS Syndrome. What is this you ask? Well, for those who have lived a much sheltered life it is: you cannot Argue with Ignorance, nor Debate with Stupidity! Enough said! HAND!

Lilly
Lilly, you are galactically stupid and clueless about the military. I doubt you have served one day because it would require selflessness and sacrifice. My father gave 30 years of his life in the Navy, I did 23 USAF, my brother in-law just completed 20 years US Army, I can say for all of us and our families it wasn't easy. I don't know who you are getting this wild life of riches in the military from but most jobs aren't like that, even dentist serve in combat zones. Some are serving in Iraq, Afghanistan, and at Gitmo, providing treatment to people who are our enemies. Lilly, you and others like you are turds that lay under the blanket of freedom the military guarantees, we aren't stupid, we come from all cross-sections of society, and we are volunteers. You know nothing about us or our lives. Like most libs you hate us with out knowing us, please go to Iran, please go I'll buy yur ticket, just go.

Military Is Stretched “Dangerously Thin”
I have seen everything now: Quoting CNN as a reliable source on anything - what has the liberal world come to?

Jim - why would sane people pick us who communicate better with machines than people to create their communication system? Every programmer I have ever known to 'hack' and break things voted liberal.

Liberals try to make reality conform to their minds.

As an Army draftee during the Vietnam era - I salute our troops, policemen, EMT's and firemen.

Higene
They only backed down from their fascist stance in the face of losing federal monies. Not because they felt they were wrong in their fascist beliefs of dictating what can be said or done on a free campus supported by taxpayers in a free country.

Isn't it ironic
Berkeley developed components for the first atomic weapons, which were dropped on Japan. Now they are a fascist institution who stops free speech of the military.

Now we wish we could drop one on Berkeley.

Congress should take Bezerkeley's money any way as punishment for a period of five years.

Hey Lilly, You
ancient liberal hag, even for you, that post was an all time low.

John Konop Continues Mindlessly As Ape
John Konop continues with more babbling, "The Iraq war has strained U.S. forces to the point where they could not fight another large-scale war, according to a survey of military officers."

Interesting. Yet, they have a high capacity for surveys? My guess is that they were jerking your chain as we all do with pollsters.

So, what's your point?

Sanity From Dr.Sowell
Thanks, Dr. Sowell, for another insightful article based on FACTS, rather than the drivel that passes for analysis on the left.

The Berkeley city council is populated by people who apparently are unable to utilize critical thinking skills. Guess it's back to CA government schools for them!

It is unfortunate that those Berkeley loons cannot be isolated from normal, thinking citizens, whereby their infection could be contained. Failing that, perhaps simply revoking all federal funding to the (I think) 5th Cong District of CA, [Rep. Doris Matsui's district] would be a tidy first step. It would be great to see them focus their taxes and attention on their problems with the Sacramento River rather than the USMC, whose boots they are not fit to lick.

Would that it were possible for these people to be sent to live in the middle of Iran or the Sudan. The Muslims would make short work of them.

How's that for diversity?

John Konop Offers Nothing Worthy of Note
John Konop mindlessly apes, "War injuries strain vets"

And, airplane attacks on American soil strains citizens. So, what's your point?


Electronic Addiction


Retired Geek writes: Tuesday, February, 19, 2008 6:50 PM

Liberals do not know what they want they only know what they don't want.

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Hey there Retired Geek, I am not picking on you, but … … … .

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Well my experience is that too many programmers care not a whit what the customer needs or wants, they want to do it their way. After some computer knowledge is gained, electronic addiction results.

Otherwise, why would we have so much spam, hackers, virus, mis-counted votes, and so much junk contained in both Windows, and the MAC OS?

Remember, a gun does not kill people, a person with a gun kills people. And a computer does not mis-count votes, a programmer in control of the computer, mis-counts votes.

And why would a car horn blow when you lock the door? That is just because programmers like to play, and their supervision is at best, a promoted programmer.

The average programmer will do nothing that will inhibit another programmer from gaining control of, and messing with an existing program.

How do I know this? Well I was introduced to the business in 1944, and in the 1950s I helped hire and train some of the first couple of thousand people who ever worked with a computer.

One of the first computers I worked with weighted 250 tons, had 50,000 radio tubes, and filled a four story building.

If you have absolutely nothing else/better to do, you can read part of my story at the IEEE site:

http://www.computer.org/portal/site/annals/menuitem.8933248 930f8c11dbe1fbe108bcd45f3/index.jsp?&pName=annals_level1&pa th=annals/an2004&file=memories01.xml&xsl=article.xsl&

Military Is Stretched “Dangerously Thin”


9 In 10 Officer Say Military Is Stretched “Dangerously Thin”
(CNN) — The Iraq war has strained U.S. forces to the point where they could not fight another large-scale war, according to a survey of military officers.

Of those surveyed, 88 percent believe the demands of the Iraq war have “stretched the U.S. military dangerously thin.”

On the other hand, 56 percent of the officers disagree that the war has “broken” the military.

Eighty percent of officers believe it is unreasonable to expect the U.S. military to wage another major war successfully at present.

Foreign Policy magazine and the Center for a New American Security on Tuesday issued the U.S. Military Index, a survey of 3,400 present and former U.S. military officers.

READ MORE

http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/9-in-10-officer-sa y-military-is-stretched-dangerously-thin


Higene
kinda like the left wing kooks on here that can't dispute facts!

KILLER

.....Google Anwar oil reserves ...regardless of how much oil it is possible to recover can you give me one single sensible logical reason why we should not recover it? .....COLOSSUS

JOHN SHAFT

.....I have figured out that you are a Cowboy fan so we have something in common ...

.....I think Jones needs to get TO some help plus beef up the offensive line to give Romo more protection ...he scrambles pretty good but I don't think he has the leadership skill of Roger Staubach ...Roger was at his best in the two minute drills ...Romo is still an unproven quantity as far as I am concerned ...

.....I am not sold on Phillips yet ...I think he is too laid back ...Landry was cool but strict but I think Johnson was the best Cowboy coach but Jones ego was too big to tolerate having Jimmy around ...

.....I wish Jones had not let Parcells get away ...he should have kicked him upstairs as Director of Player Personnel but again I think Jones' ego is the problem .....COLOSSUS

.....BTW Anthony Thomas is an Eagle fan and Ralph Emerson is a Redskin fan so that gives me two more reasons to pull their string besides the fact that they both accuse me of being a racist ...check out some of the messages on my blog to see the little "love notes" that Ralphie leaves for me .....COLOSSUS

Simple Lessos Learned
Right On Dr. Sowell!!!
I was a software developer for over 25 years and after interviewing hundreds of people to determine what was necessary for their software I could quickly determine who the liberals were.
Liberals do not know what they want they only know what they don't want.
Liberals are NOT results oriented but instead are determined to involve themselves in 'process' even though they know little or nothing about what they are demanding.
Liberals do not bring reality to the table - but a 'mystical' non sensical view of their needs and others needs.
Liberals really are "inmates running the aslyum"

Berkeley
Sure they buckled.Made a u-turn.Not out of regret that they were wrong.They felt it, not in the heart,but in the WALLET.I thought they would change their minds when their money was threatened.Fascist morons...

Koonoop! STUFF IT! Nobody cares!



You waste your time and ours.






What is going on, with TH???


John Shaft writes: Tuesday, February, 19, 2008 4:19 PM
jim
I am having a lunch coma. Are you making reference to Casto stepping down? Your posting is like a Steely Dan lyric.

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I haven’t the slightest idea what you are talking about, my post was serious.

But after I see al the posts since then, i am sorry my name will apear among comments fromthose idiots.

if I knew how, I would delete all of those stupid posts.

Doc
Yes, those two brain cells are creating a HUGE carbon footprint. Larry David's x-wife will be knocking on his door soon....

War injuries strain vets’
BOB READ MORE ABOUT HOW PEOPLE LIKE YOU TURN YOUR BACKS ON THE TROOPS!

USATODAY-He was one of America’s first defenders on Sept. 11, 2001, a Marine who pulled burned bodies from the ruins of the Pentagon. He saw more horrors in Kuwait and Iraq.

Today, he can’t keep a job, pay his bills, or chase thoughts of suicide from his tortured brain. In a few weeks, he may lose his house, too.

Gamal Awad exemplifies an emerging group of war veterans: the economic casualties.

More than in past wars, many wounded troops are coming home alive from the Middle East. That’s a triumph for military medicine. But they often return hobbled by prolonged physical and mental injuries from homemade bombs and the unremitting anxiety of fighting a hidden enemy along blurred battle lines. Treatment, recovery and retraining often can’t be assured quickly or cheaply.

These troops are just starting to seek help in large numbers, more than 185,000 so far. But the cost of their benefits is already testing resources set aside by government and threatening the future of these wounded veterans for decades to come, say economists and veterans’ groups.

READ MORE


http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/war-injuries-strai n-vets-system-observers-say

John Shaft
good thing you told him, what with it only having two brain cells and all.

tr
I think Georgetwin has left the building....

tr.. scribbles:
georgetwin is so fat
when he takes a dump he loses five pounds.

And he named it tr..

Support the troops
Anyone attending Berkeley will not make a good soldier.The socialists professors have so brainwashed them,they would have to be debriefed before entering the service.Take away their government subsidies and let them hang slowly in the wind...

BYE
GT, can you take tr for a shelter in case it rains, FOR YOUR BUS? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Georgetwin
Later.

Doc-JShaft-HScorpio-LJ7392-Ssgt-Anne-YLG
Catch You Later! I'm Gone!

Playing the Dozens
Georgetwin: I have to admit..it has crossed my mind...

Truther Retard
Is so fat, that his body weight and social security number are the same.

GT
PS
he needs an extra one for squeaky!

GT writes:
Doc
I would never lie to you, Doc! You know how delusional these Meth Addicts are, they change names when they steal credit cards to feed their addiction.

Yes and I think he stole my nephew's SS# to get a job and buy a "big top" and use for a dress! LOL

http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=956&title=Vietn am_Veterans_Against_McCain&vpkey=62acaf320c

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean
Write in a name folks, it is still a free country! Well, until McQuack comes up with more ideals on how to kill free speech.


tr
Do like being tag teamed? You must like the torture. You better stop, it may get more personal.

John Shaft
JOIN IN! The Porky Princess of a Truther Retard is an easy target.

Doc
I would never lie to you, Doc! You know how delusional these Meth Addicts are, they change names when they steal credit cards to feed their addiction.

Hank_Scorpio
Like Rosie O'Doughnut, Helen Thomas, etc?

HEY GT!!!
DID YOU LIE TO ME? You said tr’s real name was eclipse! what up pard?


HEY WOBBIEDAWONDERWABBIT, YOU EVER ANSWER TAIL2LONG or Tinsldr2 .MIL ADDY YET? Didn't think so. Twit!

http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=956&title=Vietn am_Veterans_Against_McCain&vpkey=62acaf320c

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean
Write in a name folks, it is still a free country! Well, until McQuack comes up with more ideals on how to kill free speech.

Truther Retard
Is so fat, the sizes of his clothes are mistaken for Roman Numerals (XXXXL).

Hank/Georgetwin Playin' the dozens
Please stop so I can catch my breath....LMAO!

tr..'s
Mom is so fat she has smaller women orbitting her...

Mrs. Paddy
I think I'll just write-in Hunter, I know it won't get me far
And I'll cry for a moment, that they had to drop the bar

LOL works for me, very long round metal shaft with threads for McQuack and wobbie! lol

HEY WOBBIEDAWONDERWABBIT, YOU EVER ANSWER TAIL2LONG or Tinsldr2 .MIL ADDY YET? Didn't think so. Twit!

http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=956&title=Vietn am_Veterans_Against_McCain&vpkey=62acaf320c

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean
Write in a name folks, it is still a free country! Well, until McQuack comes up with more ideals on how to kill free speech.

Hank_Scorpio
And they are TIGHT! HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!

Truther Retard
Is so fat that when he wears a green shirt, he gets mistaken for a pool table.

Truther Retard
Is so fat that when he wears a green shirt, he gets mistaken for a pool table.

tr..'s
Mom is so fat she uses hula hoops to keep her socks up...

TRuther Retard
Is so fat, Boy Scout Troops rent out his pants to use for tents.

jim
I am having a lunch coma. Are you making reference to Casto stepping down? Your posting is like a Steely Dan lyric.

Lilly and Doc
Lilly is suffering from too much Ohberman and MSNBC. She thinks life in the military is too easy these days. Maybe she should look at a media outlet that is a little more objective, say like Michael Moore's trash. Better yet, she could move to some place were the military is weak--how about Mexico.

As to Doc, we still have troops in Kosovo! Clinto as a commander. He wouldn't send even 4 tanks into Somalia. Many troops died as a result.

Georgetwin
Yes, I would agree prison is not a great place for any person...unless you enjoy Orange Jump suits and your personal space being intruded constantly...mainly in the showers.

A Change of Subject
I know you can not imagine a comment on this post that is off the subject of the writer, but here goes.

Let me be among the first to remind all those people in Florida, who brag that they are Cuban, that the ships will be leaving soon, and will be crowded.

Don’t you dare say you are a Cuban, and not be pushing in that line for a space on the ship to Havana. All these years we have heard your cries and complaints about the fact that you had to leave that wonderful country.

Well, now let’s hear all those cheers as you board the ship, and don’t you dare say you are not going home.

If you have become an English speaking person, who brags that you are an American and your only reference to Cuba is that you or your parents were born there, OK, but otherwise, home you go.


Doc
You never hear a peep out of Kosovo anymore! YEAH RIGHT!

Wobbie is a Wal-Mart Wepubwican who is running for President. He sewed up the nomination with the delegates from Electronics and Women's Wear.

lobaAzul
Your post is too funny! LMAO!

New Parody
My Blog! I'm back!

John Shaft
At least you aren't in prison like those 2 ex-Cowboys. What a pair of losers! Post-NFL that is.

YLG
Y'know, I think you're right. We should have pity on Lilly. She's in her 80's and on the verge of realizing she's been horribly wrong all this time. Imagine. What a waste.

Okay, I really gotta stop the ad hominem. ; ) Heaven knows there's enough rational argument to rebut her. But she is an active enemy of liberty and traitor to all of us.

On second thought, forget the pity. She's a tool of evil with delusions of intelligence.

Okay, now I'm done. ; )

WOBBIEDAWONDERWABBIT scribbles:
Clinton fought and essentially "won" smart engagements in both Iraq (Desert Fox) and Kosovo (Operation allied force). They were stellar examples of precise, smart military moves, with the appropriate amount of firepower aimed at a specific result...

Does any one here besides me think wobbie is one of the “newly registered Republicans” that crossed over just to vote for the lib, McQuack? This twit actually adores Clinton! That strike anyone strange? LOL BUSTED Twit!

HEY WOBBIEDAWONDERWABBIT, YOU EVER ANSWER TAIL2LONG or Tinsldr2 .MIL ADDY YET? Didn't think so. Twit!

http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=956&title=Vietn am_Veterans_Against_McCain&vpkey=62acaf320c

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean
Write in a nam

Georgetwin writes:
Lumberjack7392
It is going EXCELLENT! How About You?

Not too bad. Still putting one foot in front of the other.

Seeing as how
we are moving everything else to china, how about Berkeley? Wonder what the result would be to the city council there?

Gerogetwin
I will do..thanks!

Georgetwin
You forgot, I am so broke that all I can eat is McDonald's. It is Mikey D's fault that I am the size of Cowboys ex Offensive Linemen: Mark Tunei, Nate Newton, et al.

John Shaft
GOOD LUCK with that :)! Leave a message in my blog when you post & I will add it to My Blog Roll.

Lumberjack7392
It is going EXCELLENT! How About You?

JPSavage
Sorry :)!

Georgetwin:
How's it going?

georgetwin and Chuck Howley
That is great! Baseball doc think I am a see hawk fan...not! Chuck Howley was a beast! He and Bob Lilly held serve during the early 70s for the Boys.
I will be placing some post pretty soon. Right now I am currently working on my taxes...you know paying for these experimental Gov't programs, that ain't working!

John Shaft
DON’T TELL ME! I bet his talking points are:

1. It’s not their fault.
2. They come from a broken home.
3. They were abused as children
4. Etc., etc., ad infinitum.

GeorgeTwin
""Do you leave potholes when you jog?""


OMG you owe me a new monitor!

Anyone know the best way to get spewed coffee stains off a LCD? lol

Trolling Restrooms is just grieving over his dream boyfried Heath Ledger. Too bad the little fruit partied himself to death. Maybe the little puke will do us all a favor and follow his hero.

Of course Trainwreck Retard has all the signs of a Meth tweaker. He starts out relatively balanced, and witin a few hours is a total raving lunatic. Don't you dare say anything he disagrees with though, or he'll call your mom names. Enlightened liberals can be So FUNNY!

Hey Trumpeting Regurgitation, How's the weather there in the twin cities, where the men are men and the women are too? Has Larry Craig Called you lately? I heard you were running late the day he got caught at the airport, and a cop got your favorite stall. I also heard the cops found your phone number in Craig's wallet.

Oh and before you strt trashing my Mother like the last time, I told her about your idiot rantings, and she said you were full of it because she'd never have sex with an effeminate little puke like you.

I guess you're stuck with your Inflatable Fiancee.


YLG
EVERYDAY is one of those 2 days for her!!!!

YLG
EVERYDAY is one of those 2 days for her!!!!

Georgetwin
You should not say those things about fat.....I am sorry... obese people. Don't you know there is an epidemic going on? President BJ Clinton is a "head" of that war against obesity. You must stop that at once!

John Shaft
I look forward to reading your Blog Posts. BTW, Chuck Howley is a semi-distant relative of mine.

Liberals are mentally imbalanced...
If a soldier killed a terrorist who was preparing to slit the throat of a liberal, they'd want the soldier to be prosecuted for cruel and unusual punishment. There's no reasoning with in mentally imbalanced. They live in la la land where there's no danger (except from the evil US) where everybody just gets along (as long as everyone agrees with the liberals).

There's no point in debating the likes of Robert, Lily and Anthony. Facism and Socialism is in their DNA and they're incapable of rational thought. They want government for the people, over the people and to abuse the people. We need summer camps where liberals are sent to Cuba for a month to live among the people. When they got back, they'd be holding parades for our soldiers. Until then, they will spit in their faces and take for granted all that has been given to us/them by men and women who have sacrificed for our way of life.

"Liberalism is a mental disorder"
Michael Savage


Please be kind to lilly,
She completely forgot that today was "Call Dr. Sowell an 'Uncle Tom' day", instead of "Disparage the military day."

She flipped to the wrong page on her agenda, you see.

John Shaft
Good Afternoon to you also!

John Shaft
Good Afternoon to you also!

John Shaft
Good Afternoon to you also!

Georgetwin
"As much time as Truther Retard spends on here, there is NO WAY he goes to the gym."

I'm wondering if he takes a shower does the floor get wet.

Proud Liberal
Taking the cerebal high ground in your subtle shades of gray must become very tedious when even little words like "is" are defined in a relative way.

Bob
tr is home schooled in his basement. I have heard it yell at mommy before for milk and cookies!
Squeaky McPatches is his only classmate. Just for your info! LOL

http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=956&title=Vietn am_Veterans_Against_McCain&vpkey=62acaf320c

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean
Write in a name folks, it is still a free country! Well, until McQuack comes up with more ideals on how to kill free speech.

Jackpine Savage
Good Afternoon! Where have you been hiding Buddy?

SSGT-Prmis54-Anne
As much time as Truther Retard spends on here, there is NO WAY he goes to the gym.

He probably makes Rosie O’Doughnut look like Laurie Dhue :)!

Dr. Sowell's love/hate with Liberals
Dr. Sowell,
As always, a great article. I measure the greatness of the article based upon HOW many strawman and other fallacious arguments libs can come up with for their responses.
Lilly, Robert, et al post these straw man, ad hominen, and other fallacious comments to get a rise out of you TH conservatives. Personally, I think they enjoy the debate, otherwise they would stop posting.

TR
The recess bell has run. You need to get back to kindergarten class.

lilly scribbles:
Military in Berkeley

As your always fond of saying "we all contribute" for the greater good, so why are you crying into your buttermilk? We all put in for the military and the only "mercenaries" I see around here are you and your bunch from huffpuffy. So face it, keep putting it in and we will keep spending it as you have no choice.

Also, this is one of your “better” articles in a while Thomas, so 5 stars!

HEY WOBBIEDAWONDERWABBIT, YOU EVER ANSWER TAIL2LONG or Tinsldr2 .MIL ADDY YET? Didn't think so. Twit!

http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=956&title=Vietn am_Veterans_Against_McCain&vpkey=62acaf320c

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean
Write in a name folks, it is still a free country! Well, until McQuack comes up with more ideals on how to kill free speech.


"tr..."
For an "enlightened liberal", "tr..." sure does often disparage gays.

Actually, "tr..." is doing the rest of us a public service as it is because of him (and a few other "enlightened" lefties) that Townhall will soon be adding technology to prevent banned posters from being able to return.

So keep behaving like a 5-year old, "tr..." - you conspire in your own doom.

Bhahahaha!

Georgetwin
writes:
"When you eat out, do you get an estimate instead of a menu?"

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA

Lilly Misses The Point
Lilly offers, "[John McCain] who has been one of the loudest voices against the administration's torture policy"

Not true.

There is no "torture policy" other than torture is not practiced by the USA. McCain has argued that waterboarding should be cited as torture, but has not been a "loud" voice about it. If Congress agrees, it will be out-lawed. However, for some reason, Congress, led by Pelosi HR and Reid S, does not want to cite waterboarding as torture.

Go figure!

SSGT-Anne-SDog-LJ7392
Janet Reno, Helen Thomas, Rosie O’Doughnut and Shrillary.

The Four HorseWomen of The Buffet.

I fee sorry for those poor horses :(.

Defending Berkeley
I think it is so very sad that all of our military who have and are fighting for our freedom, and those who have died doing so, must count among those they have defended the idiots of Berkeley. Truly, there would be justice in demanding these "people" defend themselves. I, for one, will never visit such a disgusting city nor pay for their overly esteemed college. If enough feel the same way, this ugly, hate-filled place could be boycotted. Kick the dust from our shoes in their direction.

Taft is Daft
""Fox News and Rush seem to blackmail the moral thinking Conservative into their sphere of influence. Fox and Rush control the message and have no checks. Rush can say anything crazy he wants and no one can stop him.""


Ya know, I read some really crazy liberal hyperbole before, but this has to be in the top 10. Taft, you have drifted from simple brainless liberal to full on Paranoid.

No one is there as a Check for Fox news? How about ABC,CBS,NBC,CNN,MSNBC,NYT,USA Today, etc....? Liberals have a lock on 99% of the media, yet you rail against ONE tv network that appeals to those of us on the Right???

Liberals love to claim that they support free speech, then rail agains the rights of anyone who disagrees with your views. Free Speech means EVERYONE'S Free Speech, not just free if you agree with it.

Free Speech to a liberal skidmark like yourself means "Free Speech if I agree with you".
Otherwise they must be silenced, and if need be destroyed for expressing their free speech rights.

Circular Liberal Logic never fails to amaze me.

Instead of calling yourselves Progressives you should take on your true identity, HYPOCRITE.

tr is so deeply disturbed that he makes

wobbie, sophie, and halD look only slightly deranged.






Truther Retard
Didn’t the black helicopters find you yet? Didn’t the Illegal wiretaps give them your location? Once again you expose yourself as a Liar and a Coward. BTW, as much time as you spend on here, there is NO WAY you have time to go to the gym. Therefore, YOU are the FAT ONE!

What about it, Porky Princess?

Do you leave potholes when you jog?

When you go to the Zoo, do the elephants throw you peanuts?

When you eat out, do you get an estimate instead of a menu?

jim writes
"Would you rather watch Janet Reno, Helen Thomas, or perhaps Rosa DeLaur, the ugliest, meanest, most terrible member of Congress, ever."

If they had to put faces in to define the word ugly, those three would be it.


t r
"SQUAWCK"!!!
"SQUAWCK"!!!
POP-GOES-THE-WEASEL!!

Mrs. Paddy
no 7.62 on it either! I go for broke!
50 CAL all the way. Nothing but the best for those pigs in Berkeley!

Post script to Bob:
Don't forget, conservatives rightly criticize liberals for our relative value system and that post whatever it is, which disputes the idea that there is a "truth" out there which everyone can perceive identically.

Liberals do believe in many more shades of gray than conservatives whom, you must admit, tend to see things in black and white and tend to believe that there is an absolute moral code.

It is because you believe in an absolute moral code that you feel entitled to demonize the patriotism of anyone who doesn't profess whatever your own rigid standard of patriotism is.

Gayle-BmanIII
Lilly, in typical Liberal Fashion, shares some qualities with the aforementioned object, both are fake and substitute illusion for reality.

So I combined a bunch #2


Oh my, that spilled over the limit, so here's the rest of it.


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Robert writes: Tuesday, February, 19, 2008 12:51 PM
AS I leave
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1qAnx-_LmY....

for a bit some Fox Babe's and their family values skirt lengths!and bleached blonde hair.
Most of the fox babes are good candy
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Having spent 55 years with the most beautiful lady ever, I appreciate FOX for their hiring practice.

And what’s wrong with beautiful intelligent ladies? Would you rather watch Janet Reno, Helen Thomas, or perhaps Rosa DeLaur, the ugliest, meanest, most terrible member of Congress, ever.

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killer writes: Tuesday, February, 19, 2008 12:05 PM
baseballdoc
The University of Minnesota has an excellent team of YOUNG scientist,who have a energy prospective project ongoing.According to them Anwar has only 3 billion barrels of OIL.
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And I am sure they are just as positive of that so-called fact as any. Have you ever heard of an oil patch that did not produce many times the original estimate?

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Dean writes: Tuesday, February, 19, 2008 12:01 PM
Lilly is laughable...
She even starts off one paragraph with the bigotry laden "You people" address...
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You are sick, there is nothing at all in the world with using the statement "You people," but just for fun, would you try to explain what your PC complaint with those words are.

I know, when I address you, it would be, “You Idiot.”

So I combined a bunch #1


To save time and bandwidth, here are a bunch of responses in one.

Oh my, I scanned part of these comments, but I don’t think I could possibility read them all. I haven't had breakfast yet, and some of those comments would surely upset my stomach.

As my first comment, did you notice that lolo bounced right out of bed and landed on her computer keyboard. A busy, busy bee!!! Hooray for her, and the rest of us, who get to read her nonsense. Whoops, now I am in trouble, I meant her brilliance. The correction key on my keyboard is not working.

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LysanderSpooner writes: Tuesday, February, 19, 2008 1:27 PM
students, who are adults, will be able to decide for themselves whether to join the military or not.
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Why of course, they are students, and we know they are there to train the teachers, and party for a few years. And of course they are able to decide for themselves what geometry is, trig, medicine, history, engineering, and all that stuff, will be figured just fine. After all if their teachers would stand up there and tell them this and that, over and over, they might become indoctrinate in the real facts of math, of history, of engineering, and medicine, and

POLITICS.

Thanks BmanIII for seeing the error
of my comment that compared Lilly et al to dildoes. Indeed, a dildoe at least can provide a needed service, whereas the aforementioned posters are devoid of any purpose. Thanks for the good laugh! Something those aforementioned posters seldom have the pleasure of.

SSGT
Oh, you give me ideas! Gosh I wish I had unlimited resources sometimes! :-)

Bob
I will admit to being judgmental. But that's the difference between liberals