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Wednesday, January 09, 2008
Thomas Sowell :: Townhall.com Columnist
Myths of '68
by Thomas Sowell
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This 40th anniversary of the turbulent year 1968 is already starting to spawn nostalgic accounts of that year. We can look for more during this year in articles, books, and TV specials, featuring aging 1960s radicals seeking to relive their youth.

The events of 1968 have continuing implications for our times but not the implications drawn by those with romantic myths about 1968 and about themselves.

The first of the shocks of 1968 was the sudden eruption of violent attacks by Communist guerillas in the cities of South Vietnam, known as the "Tet offensive," after a local holiday.

That this sort of widespread urban guerilla warfare was still possible after the rosy claims made by American officials in Washington and Vietnam sent shock waves through the United States.

The conclusion that might have been drawn was that politicians and military commanders should not make rosy predictions. The conclusion that was in fact drawn was that the Vietnam war was unwinnable.

In reality, the Tet offensive was one in which the Communist guerilla movement was not only defeated in battle but was virtually annihilated as a major military force. From there on, the job of attacking South Vietnam was a job for the North Vietnam army.

Politically, however, the Tet offensive was an enormous victory for the Communists -- not in Vietnam, but in the United States.

The American media, led by Walter Cronkite, pictured the Tet offensive as a defeat for the United States and a sign that the Vietnam war was unwinnable.

That in turn led to the second shock of 1968, President Lyndon Johnson's announcement that he would not run for re-election. He knew that public support for the war was completely undermined -- and that is what in fact made the war politically unwinnable.

Think about it: More than 50,000 Americans gave their lives to win victories on the battlefields of Vietnam that were thrown away back in the United States by the media, by politicians and by rioters in the streets and on campuses.

Years later, Communist leaders in Vietnam admitted that they had not defeated the United States militarily in Vietnam but politically in the United States.

The next great shock of 1968 was the assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr. The after-shocks included riots that swept through black ghettos across the country.

These orgies of mass destruction, vandalism, looting and deaths have likewise been seen nostalgically as mass "uprisings" against "the system."

But "the system" did not kill Martin Luther King. An assassin did. And the biggest losers from the 1968 riots were the black communities in which they occurred.

Many of those communities have never recovered to this day from the massive loss of businesses and jobs.

Then came the next great shock of 1968: The assassination of Robert F. Kennedy. Deep thinkers tried to claim that somehow it was America that was in some way responsible for these assassinations. In reality, the assassin of Robert Kennedy was not an American, but an Iranian.

Dispersed among these national shocks were various local and regional shocks, as colleges and universities across the country were hit by student disruptions and violence of one sort or another over one issue or another.

Like the ghetto riots, campus riots flourished where the authorities failed to use their authority to preserve order. Instead, academics sought to cleverly finesse the issues with negotiations, concessions and mealy-mouthed expressions of "understanding" of the concerns raised by campus rioters.

Many academics congratulated themselves on the eventual restoration of calm to campuses in the 1970s. But it was the calm of surrender. The terms of surrender included creation of whole departments devoted to ideological indoctrination.

Members of such departments spearheaded the campus lynch mob atmosphere during the Duke University "rape" case, as they have poisoned other campuses in other ways, all across the country.

1968 indeed left a legacy.

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Assassin of Robert Kennedy
The assassin of Robert Kennedy, Sirhan Sirhan (may his name be erased from the world), is not Iranian, as Dr. Sowell writes here. He is Palestinian.

It's hard not to hate...
...those filthy marxist radicals of that dark era. Like an advanced cancer they can never be completely removed, only forced into remission. The left is a vampire which feeds on human weakness and ignorance. What a blessing when the spawn of the Greatest Generation finally begins to go the way of the dodo.

Baby Boomers
J-Man, the boomers were/are the sorriest generation... still baby's wanting their way. I was just 11 that year and remember all the hubub. My Dad retired from active duty the next year (USAF). Dr. Sowell hits the nail on the head.

In '68
my father was a firefighter in DC. One of the guys he worked with was killed when he was struck by a brick thrown by protesters while they were responding to a fire set by those same protesters. He never could understand why they destroyed their own neighborhoods and businesses.

It's obvious after Konop's

"WATCH VIDEO" regarding FOX attacking ronniepaul, that this "controlcongress.com" is a sham...

Don't even bother wasting you time going there...

Both Konop and controlcongress are a sham, fraudulent, and misleading.



The End of Christianity in Iraq?
Iraq Constitution: Bad news for Christians

…..The most troubling phrase in the new Iraqi Constitution is as follows: “No law can be passed that contradicts the undisputed rules of Islam.” The only undisputed rules in Islam are those found in their holy book, the Quran. Muslims believe that the Quran is the literal word of God and that it was relayed to the prophet Muhammad by the Archangel Gabriel. It is certainly not my right to question the legitimacy of another’s religion, but it is an irrefutable duty to report, accurately, on its view of Christians and Jews.

According to the Quran, “The only true faith in God’s sight is Islam. (Q 3:19)” A few verses later, this holy book teaches, “He that chooses a religion over Islam, it will not be accepted from him and in the world to come he will be one of the lost. (Q 3:86)” The followers of Christianity have, clearly, chosen a religion over Islam and are, therefore, considered infidels and idolaters by members of the Islamic faith. This automatically puts them in grave danger in any Islamic society, as the Quran dictates that followers of Islam may “Slay them wherever you find them. Drive them out of the places from which they drove you. Idolatry is worse than carnage. (Q 2:190-3)”…….

WATCH VIDEO

http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/the-end-of-christi anity-in-iraq


The "anti-war" movement ...
... was not anti-war but anti-draft. As soon as the draft was eliminated, the so-called "anti-war" demostrations evaporated.

Boutte's ridiculous post
Boutte makes the claim that communism had little to do with the motivation of North Vietnam and the Viet Cong. Progressives like Boutte have taken as a shibboleth of their faith that there never was a "monolithic" world-wide communist movement, yet international communism that transcends all other loyalties has always been the goal of Marxism. In fact, schisms that eventually did occur in this movement were largely the result of who would lead communism as in Mao vs. Stalin, Stalin vs. Trotsky etc.
It is probably true that patriotism was a tool that was used to recruit and motivate the common NVA soldier and Viet Cong guerrilla by the fervently communist leadership, as has been the case with Marxist "wars of liberation" wherever and whenever thay have occurred. However, collectivism and reeducation camps following US withdrawl belie Boutte's opinion in regard to Vietnaum

SemperVigilans
I also turned 8 in 1968. It's pretty cool to instantly know how old you'll be in a given year because you were born in 1960...we are the tail end of the boomers.

I had an older sister that's STILL stuck in the '60s, because she graduated in 1969, and can't seem to grow out of that Socialist counter-culture mindset. We have grown to where we just agree to disagree.

The good thing about being a boomer in my family, however, being one of 5 -- only the oldest, previously mentioned, is a "hippie". All 4 of us after her are Conservative. My first vote was also for the sainted Ronald Reagan, and I'm proud to say that his philosophy of "the best government is less government", shaped my thinking from 1980 on.

When I was in college, I had a professor who stated that there was no year in the 1900s when our country was closest to civil war -- than 1968. He was of the older generation, and saw that that turbulent year WAS a pivitol point in our recent history. As I recall, he wasn't all dreamy-eyed about it either. He looked back on it with some sad regret and unhappy memories. The idea that 1968 was the year that we were closest to civil war??? (since the REAL civil war in the 1860s) THAT was a profound thought that I'll NEVER forget.

I have happy childhood memories of 1968 as well -- that was the year we moved to Wisconsin, and the Green Bay Packers had just played and won the Super Bowl -- I or II, I can't remember. We came from Michigan, so as a Lions' fan, my dad wasn't caught up in Packer fever...but the Detroit Tigers also won the World Series later that year, and we had a family picture taken on our front porch after the World Series was over -- that was given out in Christmas cards later that year. My mom still has that picture. I was SOOOO little.

Mom in Wisconsin

Ralph
I don't understand your point. If the war is just, i.e. waged in self-defense then, it should be won. If its unjust, then it makes no sense to want to finish it. My basic principle is that those who support a war should volunteer. That means Limbaugh, Kristol, Hannity, Levin, Bush, Cheney, etc. You may think I'm picking on conservatives but I'm not. The people I just mentioned are not real conservatives, they're neoconservatives. For all the liberal's faults, and there are many, at least they went to war. I am talking about Oliver Stone, Charlie Rangel, and George McGovern to name a few. Of course, McCain went to Vietnam and Clinton opposed Vietnam but then supported war while in office.

The media and the wars

Yes, we saw pictures of the Vietnam on our TV screens but it wasn't the whole picture. Words go along with the pictures. The reporters were biased as they are now, BUT!! Then and now It's the job of the president to fight back. He owes it to us, his supporters. Bush let everyone down by not defending himself or the war clearly. He used unsophisticated platitudes to explain his positions. Where was the so called brilliant architect when Bush needed him? Why does Bush let the slander "Bush lied people died" stand unanswered? Why not declassify the Intel. Why does he let the rogues in the CIA make a fool of him? Why not quote the senate Intel committee and name pages? It's been very frustrating.
The Dems are still saying the surge has failed. They will repeat it until the world believes it.
All the 2004 democratic election nonsense has been repeated so often that most of the population believes it. This is the administration/s bizarre unfathomable FAILURE!!

Boutte
You make some good points. Vietnam is/was not that important geopolically. The regime of the south might not have been worth the American lives but, then, the regime of the south in Korea was not that much better and look how that turned out. I still like to hear what Thomas has to say on anything. It was a sorry state in this nation at that time. As other posters have pointed out, the loss of power by a small group of media has changed things forever regarding their ability to steer the country with their agenda.

Lysanderspooner
Actually, conservatives believe that liberals just don't have the will to finish any war they start.

1968
I spent the summer of '68 roller skating the sidewalks with my best friend -- and watching the political conventions on our old B&W TV. I was eight years old. Those conventions were fascinating. I remember a commercial that ran often during the conventions, I believe for Texaco. It featured a giraffe being towed down a highway on a flatbed, and going under an underpass.

We didn't have air conditioning in either the car or our home. We drove around town with the windows down, three kids in the back seat. We slept at night with the windows open. I had one pair of shoes, and was hardly unusual. I skipped third grade that year, going directly from second to fourth in the parish day school our parents had us in. Mom was the music teacher at the school, and played the organ for our daily visits to the chapel.

We competed in Scottish dancing meets, and had swimming lessons. A part of us had died with the Cowboys in the Ice Bowl, a few hours before 1968 started. Another sour note struck 366 days later, when Oklahoma lost the Bluebonnet Bowl to SMU, after a final-minutes rally. There was an ongoing intra-family dispute that year over who was cooler: Dandy Don Meredith or Joe Namath. Favorite family viewing included Gilligan's Island, Star Trek, Batman, Laugh-In, and Gunsmoke. Dad did a great Festus impression.

Yep, 1968. We're still here. There are so many of us who were not turned into anything regrettable by the events of the year 1968. We voted for Reagan in 1980 (many of us in our first election). We have served our country, raised families, built businesses, kept the faith. We are legion. 1968? The year I was eight.

rebuttal
"redeyerex writes: Wednesday, January, 09, 2008 11:14 AM
Conservatives are not responsible?
Rich Not Wealthy

I'm sorry but who won the election in 68 and 72? Can you say Nixon. The Dems weren't in charge of the WH until 76. The war was long over by then. Republicans have won the WH 7 out of the last 10 terms. When do they bear some responsiblity for the "results" that's happened in their 7 terms in office. Isn't the president the commander and chief?"

The author of this passage doesn't seem to realize that Nixon tried to win the war but the Democrats tied his hands by cutting off funding just as they are threatening to do with Iraq and as they did in Nicaragua. It was the Democratic Party that cut off funding resulting in the shameful evacuation of Siagon and the loss of the war. It was JFK that got us into Vietnam (good decision), LBJ (D) that escalated it (but instituted absurd rules of engagement) and Nixon that tried to win it. Nixon was just trying to clean up the mess left by the Democrats incompetent administration of the war to stop the communists from expanding into yet another country. It's the Republicans that have stopped the commies cold; the Dems have been trampled by them starting with the 1940s under FDR and Truman. Thier administrations were riddled with communist spies as we know know from M. Stanton Evans new book, "Blacklisted by History." BUY IT!

Myth: Liberals are against war.
The common assertion among conservatives, especially neoconservatives who ducked out on every war they supported, is that liberals are anti-war. Liberal Wilson got us into WWI, Socialist/Fascist FDR got us into WWII, Mass Murderer/Liberal Socialist Truman put us in Korea with no declaration of War. Liberal LBJ got us into Vietnam. It is true that the liberal media in recent years opposed foreign intervention but only AFTER disgust with the war threatens the legitimacy of the government, which they (and the conseratives) worship. It is also true that a significant part of the Democrat party is anti-war. But that was only a tactic to get power. Bill Clinton supported the war in Bosnia, bombed aspirin factories. And I will remind you that Al Gore supported the First Gulf War. There are many principled anti-war leftists but in reality they want the goverment to wage war on private property and the Constitution. Stop falling for the false Left/Right paradigm.

Yo Boutte
So we are not to believe Gen. Giap himself, who a just few years ago fessed up and said the north was about to fold, but thought the anti-war movement here would turn American opinion against the war, which of course it did. Your opinion of the geopolitical scene following our failure to win is breathtakingly dismissive of the carnage that dwarfed anything we brought on the area. An additional serendipity for our enemies was the beginning of our reputation for our lack of a will to win. Actually, it may have been started in Korea, but Osama Bin Ladin mentioned our retreat in Viet Nam as one of the reasons he thought we were a paper tiger. So Boutte, it is because of attempts by people like you to rewrite the terrible history that liberalism has wrought on this country that Dr. Sowell needs to correct the record.

Times have not changed
The riots after MLK were blamed on the system. Katrina was blamed on the system. And who is stuck w/ the bill? THE SYSTEM!

Who Lost the Vietnam War for us.
"h20skier writes: Wednesday, January, 09, 2008 12:46 AM
In 40 years
we have not learned anything. The battles in Vietnam we did not lose and the battles today in Iraq where we are not losing. We are winning but the media and politicians are trying to make it look like we are losing."

Correction "h20skier", We are winning but the LIBERAL media and the LIBERAL politicians are trying to make it look like we are losing."

Hmmm
Looking for one of our faithful libs to post about the wonderful ideals of the 60's. Don't see any.
That's probably a good thing--I was ready with both barrels.
We'll have a monument to Woodstock though. How lovely.
Thanks to you guys above who served then. It was alot harder then, when the "majority was silent" and the spoiled brat dopeheads had center stage.

tibby @ 15:15 yesterday wrote
"If you think the Arab-Israeli conflict has been long, you ain't seen nothing yet; this conflict with Islamo-Fascists will last until your grandchildren are old".

Unfortunately, all-too-true. Actual conflict with Islamic tyranny (currently Islamo-Nazism, but existed as Islamo-monarchial-despotism prior) started not in 2001, nor 1967, nor even 1937 (the year of the Chablis-bacon-oysters London dinner which spawned Pakistan movement) but even prior to 732 (battle of Tours).

Aurorawatcher, it goes back further
than '68.

I recall Dr. Sowell mentioning in a previous column that the current trends in the schools of education are a direct consequence- and many specifically called for- of the educational reforms of Thomas Dewey. The effort to "perfect" humanity has been in place for quite a long time.

1968 was just the most obvious point where a lot of mis-guided ideas starting coming together.

1968 Other events
The Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia in late summer and, Apollo 8 circling the moon in December.

Don't Forget...
George Wallace walked out of the Democratic Party to make a futile symbolic indie run, & took most of the segregationists & (mostly) Southern racists whose political home had been the Democratic Party, out with him. That was probably the biggest single improvement ever made to the Dems' membership demographic.

Unfortunately, this just created a vacuum into which the commie leftist radicals, who were outside rioting & looking in at Chicago in '68, rushed in to become a big chunk of the party membership by '72, helping pick its nominees & set its platforms.

Understanding 1968
The Baby Boom was the largest generation ever born in this country and it was born to the smallest generation ever born in this country until the late-20th Century. Many older people who had delayed pregnancy during the Depression and WW2 had late families in addition to those of normal childbearing years (it's actually a myth that a lot of young people got married and had children or that people had huge families; this can be checked through demographics). The system that had previously supported families in child-rearing (schools, churches, etc.) were overwhelmed by the huge population increase. Changes in leisure time activity and the introduction of commuting also made parents, particularly fathers, less available to their children. The older Greatest Generation parents had embraced unhealthy family values during the war -- drinking heavily, for ex -- while their younger siblings, the Good Time Generation, had spent the war partying in the USO and were also ill-equipped for raising children. The GG were concerned to raise their children free of the poverty they'd known in the Depression. So they focused on material wealth rather than quality time. They sent their children to church rather than go themselves as their parents had. The schools, having to education 40 percent more students than a generation before, also focused on rote memorization rather than on inculculation of values through academic lessons.

Thus, they produced a generation of children who had not been brought up and therefore didn't know how to grow up. Being told what to do is not the same as being trained in the way you should go. And, from that was spawned the Me-Generation and 1968.

The 1960's...

...were the "Best of times and the worst of times".

I was in the Army by 1967 and stayed until 1975. The times were the best when stateside and poor, bad, or worse when overseas in Asia or Europe.

The war in Vietnam, I lay at the feet of Lyndon Johnson and his cronies. The drugs, hippies and assignations, I lay at the feet of John F. Kennedy and the CMHC Act of 1963. Yes, I note the irony.

Let the word go forth
The reason that Vietnam was a "military defeat" is because politicians labelled it so. Congress "redeployed" the troops and cut-off aid to South Vietnam. So they had to blame someone else.

In order for the communists to win all they had to do is not lose. The casualties that were inflicted on the U.S. had more of an impact through the media on the American people than on the battlefield. The guy on the battlefield would disagree and I would not blame him.

In Vietnam the enemy blended with the population and was supported by a nation-state. Today the enemy still blends with the population and is not openly suported by a nation-state. The support is more subtle and seldom leaves "fingerprints".

If you think the Arab-Israeli conflict has been long. You ain't seen nothing yet. This conflict with Islamo-Fascists will last until your grandchildren are old.

Reread JFK's Inaugural Address. Where are those Democrats ? For that matter where are many of the Republicans ?

Have we learned the lessons of Vietnam... We learned the wrong ones.

Tibby

Explanation of my 12:15 post
I forgot to (re)explain my asterisked point.

Basically, much of the actual fighting against the Ottomans was done by the British under command of Edmund Allenby. The Arabs (Saudis, Kuwaitis, etc. post WW1) basically acted as Kuwaitis did in 1990 liberation--staged some spectacular march-ins but did diddly worth of actual fighting. The lands won by Allenby's slogging were given away by signatures of the (in)famous T.E. Lawrence "of Arabia".

In similar way, Hekmatyar in 1980's received lots of weaponry from US through Pakistan's ISI, but did no fighting against Soviets--while the Jamiat led by Rabbani and Massoud did much fighting, on "raw guts". Basically, this was due to Zia and Akhtar deciding to copycat a technique used by Soviets against Poland in 1944 (except that Pakisatn used proxies--first Hekmatyar and Hezbi-Islami, later Taliban--rather than own troops as Soviets did in 1944).

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59402

MYTHS OF 68
I was in Vietnam for 6 years and have to agree with Professor Sowell, the war was lost at home by Democrats and liberals just as they tried to do during the Civil War, when they were known as Copperheads and as they are trying to do now with Iraq with their Progressive caucus.

The difference between then and now is that we did not have 60 or 70 Socialist in Congress disguising themselves as democrats, These people form the largest and most dangerous coalition in congress. In 1999 worldnetdaily.com exposed the fact that there were at the time 62 members of the Democratic Socialist Party Of America in Congress operating under the guise of democrats. Shortly after being exposed, their names were removed from the DSA web site and these same people appeared once again as members of a new front organization called The Progressive Caucus. After the last election their numbers are now being estimated at 70.

These are the people who have hi-jacked the old democratic party and are working day and night for the defeat of our troops in Iraq.

The questions I have always had is, are they Socialist first or are they Democrats first? Why would someone voluntarily join an organization that promotes the principals of Karl Marx if they didn't believe in what that organization stands for?


1968
the real problem from the 60's was that for all the discontentment voiced by the hippies crowd about all the ills of society, was that they found a way to attack what they hated but never offered a constructive alternative. Their mantra of trusting no one over 30 created an age gap where those with no experience in life, thought they had right and prerogative to dictate a change they failed to understand and what it's consequences would bring. Others have also written concerning the devastating effects of the free love lifestyle affecting the black community which continues to this day. For america the hippie revolution as been a continuing nightmare. The clinton's are embematic of the selfish attitude that emanated from those years. With the clinton's and other's still living with this phony nostalgia of those years, all they stand for is self indulgence and a sense of entitlement. They are convinced they right about everything and that they also have the right to inflict their failed vision on society

Vietnam
The US pulling out of Vietnam led to a communist domino theory that eventually spread through out all of South East Asia and was responsible for the Commies winning the Cold War . . . wait a second.

Communists weren't defeated by Americans or Westerns, but by themselves. Americans helped that along, but Communism is an economically unworkable system that collapses everywhere it is tried. Read Ludwig v. Mises and Hayek to understand why. Fighting wars against them was unnecessary and just led to many American loses. Unfortunately many people America supported in its fight against Communism are now our enemies in the fight against Islamic extremism.


has anyone mentioned
that many of the protests were suggested and encouraged by professors? The 'stereotype' of the good kid going off to university, only to come home on break looking like a hobo and spouting communist talking points exists for a reason. The Psych 101 class inevitably starts off with breaking down all customs, beliefs and values brought in by the students:

'What's your mother's name? What's your father's name? How do you KNOW he's your father? What if your mom lied to you? You have no proof. You can't believe everything you're told. Think for yourself (by the way, here's what I want you to think)."

The young adult begins schooling to achieve goals, plan a career, find his/her strengths, maybe meet a future spouse (MRS degree). Student is then met with 'how Communism just hasn't been tried by the right people yet' attitudes, becomes disillusioned, and follows like a puppy the teachings of his all-knowing professor. Well, that's the plan, anyway.

I wonder if someone has stood up and told the prof, 'Okay, tomorrow I'll bring in my birth certificate, pictures of my parents and myself, their marriage proof, etc... and YOU can bring all the evidence that my Dad is NOT the man I say he is. You do want to get to the truth, don't you? Don't you?

The Demsheep are still in puppy mode, taking as gospel whatever the Union/Candidate/Professor/Nutcase next door tells them. Stand up and see the other side of the issues. You can find truth if you seek it. I suggest a course in cause-and-effect research.

Gray Ghost and Sgt. Relic
I can't say that I remember anything from '68, as it was the year of my birth. I can say that, truly, I have had a hearty dislike of hippies, war protestors and libs from a very early age. Now, 40 years later, that has not changed. I thank Dad for this trait.

Thomas Sowell is ...
Thomas Sowell is a Great American and I read his articles religiously and have found him to be well educated on the issues he addresses and right on target. I just wish that Thomas Sowell would consider a Political Career. We need more like him in Politics, those who have honor and high morales and a good deal of commons sense and intelligence.

I noticed a couple of comments that pointed to major issues and problems that face America today. The Socialist and Communist have taken over control over Academia, the Main Stream Media, Unions, Hollywood, and worst of all - the Democratic Party. Until American's wake up and realize that the Democratic Party and those listed above are America's Greatest Enemy and Threat we have today in relationship to our Bill of Rights and our Constitution, this continued erosion of America will continue. Review the latest actions of this Democratic Controlled Congress as proof that these Democrats are without HONOR, TRUTH, and MORALITY. Rewriting the words of a bill that in effect violated the concept of Earmark Transparency, special union elections, stealing a vote on the floor of the House, etc. Now they are proposing Hate Speech laws, Fairness Doctrine, U.N. Control over U.S. Concerns, High Taxes, Larger Federal Government, Less State Control. All of which was carefully weighed by our Founders and realized that America's biggest threat was a Strong Federal Government, which could eliminate our Freedom's and Liberties we hold so dear. If we want to salvage that which has become the Greatest Country to ever exist on this Planet, we must defeat the Socialist and Communist and the Democratic Party. We must reeducate our Young and the Sheople who know nothing of the truth and we must penalize the MSM and defang their ability to poison the truth with their blatant lies and misrepresentations. God Bless America and God Bless Conservatives, America's only hope for the future.

svpallava
You're right about there being no P in Arabic, which means that P's are usually rendered by a B. Pakistan becomes Bakistan.

Except that Palestine becomes Filisteen rather than Balestine.

I remember
1968 exactly. I was pregnant from March on, waited outside St. Patrick's Cathedral during RFK's funeral, and saw his train draped in black cross the Meadowlands on its way to DC.

The student "leaders" of 1968 were often the sons and daughters of drs. and lawyers. A family member was one of them and is no different today. Just wealthier. of 68 The guys often used women like tissue paper for their egos. They were the privileged of the 50s throwing adult temper tantrums because they might owe duty and patriotism to the country that had so lovingly given them the freedom from fascism and was fighting communism for their benegit.

The media has revealed itself since as a relentluess advocate of anti-Americanism, anti-patriotism, anti-tradition, anti-religion, and anti-rationality. Voters today are getting their news about cons. pres. candidates from a news media that is 97% lib. 1968 was the beginning.

Happy Jack
"You mean that incursion that the Left said wouldn't happen if we pulled out?"

Yup, that's the one, though it's not as famous as the killing fields of Cambodia, which also wasn't supposed to happen.

My son asked me about 1968
I told him I "lived through it, just barely."

And became a Republican.

For 11h
The term "Palestinian" was invented by Haj-amin Husseini (appointed by British as Jerusalem Mufti after WW1--due to his Hekmatyaresque*** "help" to them against Ottoman Empire) when he turned like a viper on his benefactor (UK) and signed a blood-covenant with Hitler--because he wanted to be Sultan, he invented nation of "Palestine" (BTW, it is impossible to pronounce "P" in Arabic, it becomes "B").

After Israel was established in 1948, the "Palestinian" movement generally went underground (one exception being the Husseini-ordered 1951 murder of Jordan's king Abdullah I--from Cairo where Husseini was hiding) until 1970. That year, Arafat (appointed by Husseini as successor to leadership, but not Muftiship) decided to bump-off Jordan's king Hussein (grandson of Abdullah I, who succeeded him) and failed, being driven into Lebanon (where he managed to run extortion-by-terror network for 12 years, until Israel invaded Lebanon and Regan rescued him to Tunis).

HappyJake @ 9:29 asks JFP
"You mean that incursion that the Left said wouldn't happen if we pulled out?"

Not exactly. There was a 1979 incursion by China into Vietnam which assumed a "cakewalk" like its 1962 invasion of AksaiChin***, especially given the fact that it had supplied the NVA--NVA gave PLA a beating.


***Specific conditions in 1962 were that India had Nehru, both incompetent and anti-military, as PM--who had cut down its procurements, as well as placed his no-combat-experience relative B.M. Kaul as AVCOS.
(a) after this, no ACOS or AVCOS appointments are made for officers absent combat experience
(b) no PM after Nehru had such anti-military bias (the one thing Indira Gandhi did RIGHT as PM was to give military near-blank-cheque when it came to procurements; Indira Gandhi was Nehru's daughter) and I'm not sure any were as incompetent (the ones I can fairly use for comparison--Desi, Chandra Shekhar and Charan Singh--all headed rather rickety coalitions)

fred
"I concur with one military historian's conclusion that the war was won several times, in 1965, 1968, and 1972, but the left wing commie media kept losing it and getting more of our guys killed"

"the left wing commie media"??? Wow pal, what decade are you from?

So the media got Americans killed by reporting the atrocities in Vietnam AS THEY HAPPENED. The media informed America of what was really going on, and somehow they were our greatest enemies. That's one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. Americans got killed in Vietnam because just like Iraq, the U.S went into Vietnam without declaring war and without a clear exit strategy. The U.S wasn't attacked by Vietnam so we had no legitimate reason for being there. Sowell said 50,000 American "gave their lives", but ignores the fact that unlike the Iraq war, a significant amount of Americans had their lives stolen by their own government through the military draft. This sort of war mongering is what has been tearing our country apart for the past 40 years.

redeyerex
Nixon was not a conservative.

Conservatives are not responsible?
Rich Not Wealthy

I'm sorry but who won the election in 68 and 72? Can you say Nixon. The Dems weren't in charge of the WH until 76. The war was long over by then. Republicans have won the WH 7 out of the last 10 terms. When do they bear some responsiblity for the "results" that's happened in their 7 terms in office. Isn't the president the commander and chief?

1968 Redux
Look who The Dems look to for Leadership NOW! The Clintons and other Leftover Hippies. Hopefully, the DECADES of Drug Abuse will be The Yucatan Impact for The Hippie Scum!

Gray Ghost , Sgt Relic
I became a conservative in 68 (don't ask me how)
I was only 8 years old in 68 and living in Germany. Little did I know at the time but my dad (Retired AF Cmsgt 26 Years AD) would become part of the War. He did two tours of duty in RVN and Thailand and rcvd the Bronze Star after his second tour.
I remember the CBS News with Walter Cronkite and almost daily they would put up the casualty figurs for both sides. I would alway pray that my dad would not be one of them and fortunatly he wasn't one of them.
It's nice to know that there are people older than I am (48 y/o) that still believe this country is great. I'm also sure there are many younger people that feel the same way I do.

Either the Dems never learn or
they learned only too well how to defeat the US.

Of course I am talking about the Dems that have aligned with Moveon.commie, and KosKooks. There are many Dems that are still the embodiment of "useful idiots" in that they think with thier hearts and not with thier heads. If it sounds reasonable and compassionate, it must be right, never mind the results.

Thomas Sowell is right on!
I was only 12 years old during the Tet Offensive and the Chicago riots, so I really wasn't aware of the politics. I was too young to go to Vietnam, but after reading everything I can find on it, I concur with one military historian's conclusion that the war was won several times, in 1965, 1968, and 1972, but the left wing commie media kept losing it and getting more of our guys killed.

Apparently, with the latest revelations of General Giap, if we would have kept the bombing up for a few more days, the North would have capitulated.

And the millions of Cambodians, Laotians, and Indigenous Vietnamese tribes would not have died in the resulting mess from our pullout.

It's time to kick the commie/liberal/left wing out of power forever, or we will be doomed to a hell worse than Vietnam and Cambodia were.

1968
I graduated from high school in 1968, there was a dress code then. I watched the events of that year unfold from my home on a ranch in Colorado. There were no radicals, no riots, no war. Instead, there was plenty of work and an extra job of washing dishes at the Pueblo Dog track (no one in the family was paid for working on the ranch) so I could pay for my tuition at college in the fall.

So it wasn't all about them, the radicals, the news people, the politicians, the hippies, the rioters. There were a lot of people who just lived a life without having to say: "Look at me, see what I am doing. See how important I am." And finally 1968 was over, and along with it the agony that it was to watch from Vineland, Colorado.

Dr. K

This is good
I am not sure why it comes as a surprise that
politics here count as much as fighting over there.

What can be said is that any war that lasts long
and does not directly effect the country will be
not be liked at home.

I wonder what the right would look like if Reagan
and Falwell had been killed in '79?

Something to think about for all you alternate
history buffs.

JFP
You mean that incursion that the Left said wouldn't happen if we pulled out? (Oh, if we pull out the Communists aren't going to take over the whole country and purge the government of those who disagreed with them.)

Isn't that what they are telling us about Iraq and Iran now? (Oh, if we pull out Osama will like us and Iran won't try to take over the Middle East and anihilate Israel.)

1968--a very bad year
It must be difficult for Prof. Sowell to be right all of the time ("Iranian" notwithstanding). Since I always agree with what he writes, he is surely among the best thinkers around.

1968 was the low-water point of the "American Century," imho, and I remember it well. 1964 was the first election in which I could vote; I was despondent when Barry, clearly the best man active in politics at the time, lost to LBJ, one of the worst. It was all downhill from there.

Congress must declare war
Dr. Sowell writes:"Think about it: More than 50,000 Americans gave their lives to win victories on the battlefields of Vietnam that were thrown away back in the United States by the media, by politicians and by rioters in the streets and on campuses."

We wouldn't have this problem if Congress would formally declare war like the constitution gives them the power to do. Increase taxes or cut domestic spending to pay for the war and institute a draft with no deferments. By following this process the government will be sure that the populace is in tune with fighting a war. This is how we fought and won WWII.

seattle
Your referrence to Abbie Hoffman reminded me that when he famously proclaimed "Never trust anybody over 30", no one asked his age at that time which he later admitted was 31.

1968: Mixed Reviews & Results
In 1968, I was in High School (11th grade) and I remember it well. I met my future wife and had my first encounter with a "radical leftist" (Score: one leftist on the ground with a broken nose for saying my father was a "baby-killer" for serving in the Army Air Corp in WW2). I almost got kicked out of high school, since the "Leftist" was an adult.

I too, like "Sgt Relic", also realized I would never be a Liberal. I also started plans to get into the USAF (either in ROTC at Mississippi State Univ. or the Air Force Academy).

Sowell's article is "on the money" from what I remember of 1968. Being 70 miles away from Memphis, I do remember Dr. King's murder. I also remember the sorrow in both the Black and White communities concerning his death.

media - an arm of the enemy
as long as the media sees itself as a global entity, the US will get the short end of the stick.

the media has engaged in treasonous activities where they have printed highly classified information and protected their sources. no visible action has been taken against them.

they are free to undermine the interests and safety of the US and it's assets without persecution.

it is now cool to be anti-american. universities do it and even the democratic party treats our military with disdain.

boy has society fallen far in 40 years!

Liberals and Treason
When liberals want to know why many conservatives think them traitors to the US, they only need look at their conduct during this war and the Vietnam War.

It's perfectly OK to oppose a war. Americans have been opposing American wars since 1776. One of the reasons that Benedict Arnold turned traitor was that he (and many other Continental Officers) had grown disenchanted with the increasing anti-war sentiment both in the people and in the Continental Congress. There were a number of people who thought we should have just given up and returned to British Rule. The same is true for every war since then, including 1812 and the Civil War (the last two fought mainly within the territory of the United States).

The problem is not in opposing the war or commenting negatively on the conduct thereof, but in making propaganda for the enemy (Michael Moore, you have a call on line one), in distorting or flat lying about how the war is going, or by making a concerted effort not to simply express that you are against the war, but to try to bring down the morale of the people (Cindy Sheehan, please pick up the white courtesy phone, Cindy Sheehan to the white courtesy phone).

A strange story
After Nixon's visit to China, Chinese students gradually began coming to the U.S. to study. I first met one of them in the early 1980s.

I asked him what he thought of the Vietnam War, and he started talking in terms that I at first found quite incomprehensible. Then it suddenly dawned on me: he wasn't talking about OUR Vietnam War, but China's Vietnam war. This was the little incursion into Vietnam that China engaged in in the late 1970s.

Incredible.

svpallava
Yeah, they waited that long. Truman had a foriegn policy, and so did Kennedy. Not that either was of noteworthy quality, but they had them.

Johnson fought Vietnam based solely on how it would play in the press at home. When people seemed to like it, he fought it harder, when they didn't, he backed off. When it was declared "unwinnable" after a battle we won he ran off with his tail between his legs.

Inevitability
The turmoil of 1968 and the following years was inevitable considering the course of the nation at the time. It started in the 50s. Save for the Korean War, which did not engender the same anti-American sentiment as the next war on the Asian mainland would, the 50s were a time of great prosperity in the US. The economy was booming, soldiers having returned from Europe and the Pacific were reintigrating into the economy, everyone was moving up (even blacks, despite segregation) and, at least early on, it was also a time when traditional morality was still fashionable.

But the late 50s started to see a change in the culture. Those changes were small at first (as all cultural change is) but they grew into the hippie movement in the 60s. The hippies and like-minded liberals throughout the West started to see Communism as the more logical way of life (it's not mere coincidence that there was a lot of drug use among those people, especially halucinogens.) As Communism is antithetical to our way of life (collectivism vs. individualism, the State over the person, etc.) believing Communists necessarily want to change the most basic makeup of our society. So they attacked everything we stood for. Tradition, patriotism, Christian values, individuality, and capitalism. That counterculture (a word that means "Against the values of a society") preached that people can decide what's right and wrong for themselves. As a result, you get reporters who believe that depicting a military win as a defeat is OK, you get people who riot at the first sign of discontent, you get the Charles Mansons of the world, etc., etc.

And those same people, those same counterculturalists want to run the country now.

Vic writes
"The Lamocrats had already been shifting to communism with FDR and LBJ but after 1968 they also gave up on having a foreign policy".

Did they actually wait THAT long?

The loser in 1968...
... was the white working class. The Dems abandoned them so that they could concentrate on race, gender, sexual orientation, and the environment.

The white working class got their revenge by abandoning the Dems.

1968
I was a junior attending Bible College in the South in 1968, and the only Republican in my Freshman class. We were on choir tour when King was gunned down, and were right in the middle of some of the rioting -- and of curfews and other types of military style stuff that opened some playground communist types eyes pretty wide. (As 85% of the kids at that college were from New York or New Jersey, the news from home was even more eye-opening.)

I left for Europe in 1969 and saw the education of the Sixties Liberals continue in the way the real world worked -- we left a number of them in foreign prisons, and in Argentina it was only the intervention of the Dutch ship officers that freed not only a group of Sixties Babies but the Dean of Men who was just as bad.

On the orders from home, I did not participate in the Sixties save as an observer and chronicler. Reading back over my chronicles of those days, I can only shake my head, not only at how stupid my classmates were, but at how little I knew about the ways of the world. I hope I have not remained as stupid as they have.

Boutte(head)...
...Every paragraph you write is a lie,which is an attempt to decieve.Your post is disgusting and your mentality is an embarrasment.If there was a license to own a computer,you would lose it.

Like Impact,I was living in a suburb of Chicago(ROTC assignment)at the time.Everything he writes is absolutely correct.We watched on local news for almost a year as the left wing crazies practiced their tactics in public on how they were going to break up the Democratic convention.The news media thought it was a hoot.I thought it was disgusting.The only Democrat at that convention that I had any respect for was Dick Daly.

Butte...
...Every paragraph you write is a lie,which is an attempt to decieve.Your post is disgusting and your mentality is an embarresment.

I was there in 68
I worked close to Northwestern University where many of the rioters were given shelter in a Chapel, of all places. I saw their flyers announcing mayhem. I watched scenes of them taunting and assaulting police. The overriding impression those rioters created in me was of their fascist tactics.

They haven't changed. They have institutionalized that fascism in today's academia.

As usual, Dr. Sowell is right on target. What was not mentioned is Teddy Kennedy's role in disarming the American GI with rediculous rules of engagement.

Sound familiar? Once again, in Iraq, it is the Dem. treason that is encouraging the insurgents. I'm just waiting for Dingy Harry to introduce a bill to send arms to the insurgents to create a "level playing field." That would at least be honest.


Yes
The Democratic party was hijacked. And when the messiah "McGovern" was not universally hailed and elected later on, the subversion and continual list to port has finally created a Democratic "Poisidon adventure" where the only thing that is "wrong" is to say that something is "wrong." And so, that party continues to follow the "white rabbit," and pine for those heady days of Big Brother and the Holding Company.

One thing that was missing in 68 that we
have now is the internet and laternative news media. Walter the Chronic was able to lie to the public and get away with it in 68. He would not be able to do that today.

Hello awake in seattle:
I'm happy to know there were people like you who understood the significance of all those 1960's and '70's revolutionary performances we put on for the enlightenment of what we thought of as the university deprived, and so morally illiterate, citizens of a working-for-a-living world. It took me a while to escape the mind control of academia - consequences of our activism helped - and here I am, awake too, and sad, but doing my best to repair the damage.

Here's a Celtic blessing for you:

May we walk this world with eyes wide open.
May we see the way things are.

Chicago Convention
Dr. Sowell omitted one of the great upheavals of 1968--the Chicago Democratic convention and Abie Hoffman's riots. I was only twenty-one and eagerly awaiting my chance to vote as I watched the mayhem in the streets of Chicago perpetrated by my near contemporaries. I felt shame and anger. this was the beinning of the end of the patriotic Democratic party of my elders. And the party's response, after the election, was to sell out to the hooligans, goons and crazies that fomented the riots. I have not voted Democratic since.

Sirhan
Since Sirhan Sirhan was born in Jerusalem in 1944 he would have been Jordanian. 1968 was also the year of the disastrous convention in Chicago and I see it as the beginning of the end of the Democratic Party. The Lamocrats had already been shifting to communism with FDR and LBJ but after 1968 they also gave up on having a foreign policy.

Since LBJ was President they have had one two-term president who was only elected because of a 3rd party candidate and Jimmy Carter who was elected because of Nixon.

Sirhan
a Palistinian? Was there such a thing back then? What country did he have citizenship in?

Why did he do it, anyone ever really know?

I agree with Western Resistance
As aforementioned above Sirhan Sirhan is Palestinian and a Marionite christian and NOT Iranian(or Persian as it was probably called then). Other than that, Tommy Sowell usually writes some thoughtful articles. The propaganda from the nostalgia of 1968 is probably a distant reason why more Democrats are eyeing Obama than hillary. Boomers act as though they are the Second coming of the Greatest Generation when in reality they have cashed their chips in with social Security and sent the remittance slips to Generation X. Their egos should definitely die the way Edward II, Benito Mussolini, and Nicolae Ceausescu's did.

Sounds like nothing has
really changed. Our enemies use our own people to destroy us from within. Our enemies are violent beyond description, but we are the bad guys. We are destroying an enemy, yet our reporters say we can't win. University professors think the United States is the worst country in the world.

As Yogi said: It's deja vu all over again.

In 40 years
we have not learned anything. The battles in Vietnam we did not lose and the battles today in Iraq where we are not losing. We are winning but the media and politicians are trying to make it look like we are losing.

Sirhan Sirhan
(*Nitpicking*)

Sirhan Sirhan, the assassin of Robert F. Kennedy, was not Iranian, but "Palestinian."

I should have been a lawyer. And German.

It was also the year
the radical Left hijacked the Democrat Party.

Leading the Dems down the sorry road they've followed ever since.

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