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Wednesday, June 27, 2007
Thomas Sowell :: Townhall.com Columnist
Attention-Getters
by Thomas Sowell
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People can get attention either from their accomplishments or from their deliberate attempts to get attention. Today, almost everywhere you look, people seem to be putting their efforts into getting attention.

Wild hairdos, huge tattoos, pierced body parts, outlandish clothing, weird statements -- all these have become substitutes for achievements.

Some parents give their children off-the-wall names, as if that is the way to give them some kind of individuality. On the contrary, it means joining a stampede toward showiness.

You don't need a crazy name to become famous. It would be hard to think of plainer names than Jim Brown, Ted Williams, Walter Johnson or Michael Jordan.

It was what they did that made their names famous.

In business, some of the biggest changes in the economy were produced by people with plain names like Henry Ford and Bill Gates. In retailing, some of the biggest names were Richard Sears and Sam Walton.

When you achieve something, you don't need gimmicks. This has been especially apparent in sports.

Joe Louis wore the same standard boxing trunks as everybody else, not the wildly varying and garish trunks that so many boxers wear today.

He did not find it necessary to taunt or denigrate his opponents or behave like a lout inside or outside the ring. But he scored more first-round knockouts in championship fights than any other heavyweight, and will be remembered as long as boxing is remembered.

If Jim Brown had carried on in the end zone after every touchdown he scored, the way so many football players do today, it is hard to see how he could have had the energy left to average more than five yards a carry for his career.

The problem is not just with people who want to get attention by the way they dress, act, talk, or show off in innumerable other ways. The more fundamental problem is that the society around them pays its attention to such superficial and often childish stuff.

The media attention lavished on Anna Nicole Smith and Paris 24/7, while paying little attention to Iran's movement toward nuclear weapons that can change the course of history irrevocably, is one of the most painful signs of our times.

A lifetime of making major contributions to the health, prosperity, or education of a whole society will not get as much media attention as organizing some loud and strident demonstration, spiced with runaway rhetoric.

In a "non-judgmental" world, what is there to determine who deserves notice, except who can make a big splash?

We not only live longer today, we are more vigorous in our sixties than earlier generations were in their forties. But can you name even one person or one enterprise that conferred this enormous benefit on millions of people?

The average American today has a standard of living that includes things that only the upper crust could have afforded in times past -- and some things that even the rich didn't have in past generations, like personal computers.

But are the people who made that possible even mentioned, much less publicized and praised?

There is not an inventor, scientist, medical researcher, or industrialist who is as well known as loudmouths like Rosie O'Donnell or Jesse Jackson.

Any bimbo who exposes her body can get more attention than someone who finds ways to reduce the cost of housing for millions of people.

In California, the bimbo can get favorable attention while the developer is condemned.

In short, the problem is not that particular people do particular things to get attention. The problem is that the society at large no longer has standards by which to deny or rebuke attention-seekers who have nothing to contribute to society.

Do not expect sound judgments in a society where being "non-judgmental" is an exalted value. As someone has said, if you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything.

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As Excellent as Ever!
Dr. Sowell never disappoints! He is to the point, concise and backs everything up with research or plain common sense. He is a National Treasure.

P.S. I wonder how long it will be before some Liberal is offended by this column?

We live in a gilded age, soon ending
Look at past Gilded Ages - the 1920s comes to mind. Anyone remember what happened in 1929?

Decadence has a price. Look at history and the thing we haven't seen in the past 40 years is the social/economic churn of society. People like Paris Hilton have money without having to earn it, in most economic circumstances the parents (who didn't do much themselves) would have fallen down several rungs and thus Hilton would be working at KMart or Target.

The question for Dr. Sowell is why we no longer have this economic current, the ambitious and bright going to the top while those there without merit falling?

Blame the schools
It may seem to be an over-simplification to blame our schools, but when our "great and insightful Founding Fathers" all of a sudden became "rich, white slave-owners who just wanted to avoid taxes"...the recognition of accomplishment over flash (and our country) began to die.

Individualism and competition...
are generally under attack in our society. More attention is focused on the underachievers than on the best and brightest. "It Takes A Village" to do what the extended family used to do; and, the "village" leaders like it that way.

says it all
"The problem is that the society at large no longer has standards"

Blame the Schools? Blame Ourselves.
We're the merry idiots who ingest this media tripe every evening. Want E! to go away? Stop demanding what they supply. In our sad state of affairs, people would rather consume the fluff than the events that will eventually define our very survival. Had it sold newspapers, the paprs would've been slathering their front pages with Iranian, Syrian, N. Korean, Chinese, and Russian duplicity.

I can just see it now-- the willfully ignorant stunned when Russia finally gives us the inevitible shiv to our spine that anybody paying attention will percieve. Their jaws will drop open, and the words "I thought they were our friends," will come spilling out.

rant over-- I don't dole out contempt easy, but not paying attention and lazy thinking always brings out the high horse in me.

Right on
Dr. Sowell is right on as usual.

IGoCommando also made an excellent point about the problem being the demand. As long as we have mindless idiots in this Country who desire the kind of mindless trash that is on t.v. then it will continue. Our broken, socialist education system is responsible for the dumbing down of society which in turn is attributable to Socialist policies being enacted by the Socialist(Democratic) Party. "Stupid is as stupid does"......and there has been a whole lot of "stupid" going on in the last 50 years.

The Rise and Fall
Excellent article Dr Sowell.

Our society is in the fall stage of history's classic rise and fall cycle that every society passes through. Romans, Greeks, Egyptians and so on.

This country, and all Western culture, is in a major state of decline. All you have to do to see it is open your eyes.

We are surrounded by greed, incompetence, laziness, extremism, denial, superficiality, naievete, lying, corruption and crime.

Entertainment is better than politics.
Actually, celebrities are what we should focus on; not politically related events. We support celebrities because they are employed for the purpose of entertaining and amusing us. In contrast, we employ politicians to tend to our political needs. With such an arrangement, we are free to focus upon the entertainment personalities, and able to ignore the grimmer aspects of the world that are politically based.

It is best to let people do the jobs that they are best at. Let the entertainers amuse us, and let our politicians rule us. Entertainers do a better job when we give them our full attention, and politicians do a better job when we don't interfere with their decisions.

And I forgot one of the big ones.
Blaming others for our own failures

Attention by saying outrageous things?
"If I’m going to say anything about John Edwards in the future, I’ll just wish he had been killed in a terrorist assassination plot."

That was one of the people who represents your party, speaking on national television this morning.

soothsayer
I agree, that is a deplorable remark and whoever said it should be suspended or penalized somehow. What 'party' are you referring to? Dr. Sowell mentions no party, and only 2 posts remark about parties. Can you comment on the content (imagine 'content' in italics) of the article? Can I conclude you agree with the overall theme(italics) of the essay?

Interesting subject
Judgements and judging. From one perspective we make a judgement in every little minute detail of our lives every day. What clothes to wear. What route to take to work. etc etc.

Oh, but we mustn't judge another's lifestyle or choice of clothing or anything that might hurt their poor little feelings.

On another post, on another day, I posted the scripture that we should judge not lest we be judged. This column reminds me of that and what I didn't elaborate on at the time. I believe the true meaning of that is that we must judge rightously. How we exercise judgement is how it will be exercised against us on the final day. Of course, if you are not a christian, you take no heed for that judgement.

Loyal Democrat
A little off your game today?

Where ya been lately?

Hope I am not being too harsh but, the expectations are high when I come across your moniker.

Attention-Getters
I doubt if we live in a completly non-judgmental society. The things that society has decided to judge harshly and reject have changed over time. There are still many items that society will judge you for(Some people are in jail after being tried an judged guilty).

What society has decided to publicly centure has changed. The question is has it gone to far from being overly judgemental to not judgemental enought. I don't think that society is there(yet)


Mr. Sowell
It was called the "lowest common denominator".
Today it is the most common.

Bemused -- on Italics --
Generally, you can put *asterisks* around a word if you want to indicate italics or bold.

Hmmmm -- maybe [i]italics[/i] with non-offending tags would be better?

News/Attention Cycle
I have quit watching network news, including Fox. The endless cycle of Anna Nichole and Paris has finally got to me. I now get all of my news from various sources on the Net where I can descriminate out the fluff.

It used to be that the Networks would reserve their fluff for particular shows or times of the day, but when the evening news came on, there would be serious news and no fluff. All we have now is fluff and short headlines for serious news.

As for the sports figures of today, they are overpaid primadonnas. In the past they were mistreated by the owners and it was sanctioned by Congress. The pendulum has swung the other way now. There has to be a middle gound somewhere. Until then, I have quit watching all sports on TV except college football.

That is the secret to fixing a lot of these problems. Instead of comlaining about it, quit supporting it. No new laws are needed. The law of supply and demand will suffice.

Paris and Sunny
Paris hilton was released from jail after only 23 days of a 45 day sentence, and from the media coverage, you'd think she'd just returned from the Moon. A few days earlier, Sunita Williams returned to Earth after a marathon 193 day stint aboard the ISS to little or no notice from the MSM. Who would be the better role model for today's youth?

Bread and circuses
...is what the Romans gave the people and is what kept the crowds happy. It is the same today.

What are the top-rated TV shows? Years ago, when the inane Laverne and Shirley was #1, I knew we were doomed. While the poiliticians pander to that mentality, Rome burns.

If it wasn't for the small percentage, usually less than 10% of the public, who actually are the driving force with their minds and creativity, the other 90% would be grubbing for roots in the forest so as not to starve. But you can be sure, they's never miss their favorite TV inanity.

The problem now is, that 90% votes.

No athlete has ever been ...
...overpaid.They are worth whatever someone is willing to pay for them,not one penny more or one penny less.I watch professional football because it is the best.If your standards are so low,then watch college football.You can also pay $100 for a ticket to a broadway show or you can go see your local high school Christmas pageant for free.Your choice.

Sign og the times
Another excellent Sowell classic.

I wish I could understand the trend described in his article. Perhaps, it is related to the "disconnected-ness" we feel. One of the ironies of the day is that we have every possible means to connect with our fellow man yet we all feel as islands in a vast ocean. We don't know our neighbors and have few REAL friends. We scream to be noticed (in various and increasingly bizarre ways) and yet we are on cell phones and the internet 24/7. Social isolation is the key and, also, the strange hope that we can become "famous" in some superficial, meaningless way. I, for one, don't completely understand it and wish the psychological literature would explain it to me. It, truly, is a sign of a "sick" society. We are truly are "bored to death."

Cheers,

Ron Albright

http://www.ronalbright.com

Now read about the Bong Hits Baby
and the huffing and puffing on Town Hall about how AWFUL it is to stifle little Junior from his overwhelming urge to get on teevee asying something outrageous regardless of time, place, appropriateness or desire of the people putting on the event to be interrupted by same.

In my opinion the one person who ought to be feted is the judge who finally succeeded in imposing upon Paris Hilton what Mommy and Daddy and all her millions never managed at all: that judge made her sit on her bed, absent electronic binkies and an audience, fold her hands and SHUT UP.

What was diagnosed as "extremeADD" by a hovering 'medical' community was what used to be called a Tantrum. What Paris Hilton was rewarded by the teevee press for was what SuperNanny rewards by a trip to the Naughty Chair.

The serious pontificating by people who are misinterpreting Dr. Sowell's excellent column, attributing it all to some overwhelming Fall of Rome Complex, make me laugh, or they would have made me laugh 20 years ago.

The point of Dr. Sowell''s column seems to me to be that it is well past time that we emulate that judge and grab Junior and Susie by the arm and march him and her to their respective bedrooms, sit them on their beds, tell them to fold their hands and shut up and sit there until they are ready to behave themselves like respectful members of the family.

And that has nothing to do with the Fall of Rome, folks; that has to do with your own determination to take a good look around you and ask yourself "Why is it that one screaming, flailing toddler has Rights, and the 1500 adults who came to see this movie have none?" And then, as we say in the Law, govern yourself accordingly.

Common Names of Extraordinary People
While citing examples of extraordinary people with relatively ordinary names, Dr. Sowell omitted my personal favorite: "Thomas Sowell".

Our priorities are backward
We have investigations as to why gas which keeps our country moving is so high, and cheer when some bimbo gets a million dollars for an interview.
We want socialized medicine because chemotherapy to save us from cancer or a trauma surgeon who puts us back together after an accident costs too much, but never blink an eye at an adult playing games for a living making millions.

commonality
Nam has a good point about athletes and top level shows and how they are worth the money because it's the interest in them and in seeing excellence that makes them worth seeing. Rather than uninformed choices being "to blame", I would argue that it is a result of too many choices.

I'm not an opera fan, nor a swing band fan, nor a rap fan. I like listening to concertos. If we have 1 concerto lover, 1 opera fan, 1 swing band fan, and 2 rap listeners then rap is the "most popular" even though it is still in the overall minority. When there are 100 channels+ available, and each like or dislike can be found somewhere, it is the dilution of "my preference is:" that causes the lowest common denominator to rise to the top.

Context, soothsayer, context...
Soothsayer said (quoting Ann Coulter):

"If I’m going to say anything about John Edwards in the future, I’ll just wish he had been killed in a terrorist assassination plot."

and soothsayer takes offense.

Actually, soothsayer, she was paraphrasing Bill Maher, who had said the same thing earlier about Dick Cheney, to no liberal outrage. She was pointing out the liberal double standard which judges, not just on what was said, but on who said it. You made her point very neatly.

Maybe there's hope.....
As the spectacle surrounding Paris Hilton unfolds in the media, an all too familiar thread weaves itself amongst the fabric of the chaos that the paparazzi and the news organizations seem to thrive on.

The last time that this thread was evident as I recall was in March 2005 as Ashley Smith spoke to Brian Nichols in her apartment in Atlanta, Georgia.

At the time Nichols had overpowered a courthouse deputy who was escorting him to his rape trial one Friday and took the deputy's gun. He killed the presiding judge and court reporter as well as a deputy who tried to stop him outside the courthouse and also a federal agent during his flight from authorities.

It's the thread of the Gospel being subtly interwoven into the very fabric of our society.

"THIS GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM SHALL BE PREACHED IN ALL THE WORLD FOR A WITNESS AND THEN THE END SHALL COME!"

"I believe God brought him to my door," Smith said the following Sunday, only hours after her 911
call ended a massive manhunt for Brian Nichols.

Millions of people all over the internet and the news media watched, read and listened as Ashley told of her time with Brian Nichols.....and by so doing, they were constantly reminded (by her) of God's providence and His divine will and because of Smith's obedience, many of the News Agency found it impossible to report on this news event without making several references to God.
Literally millions of people were constantly hearing about God.

Brian Nichols called Ashley Smith an angel and most of M's Smith's friends said that she believed in people to a fault. Sounds a lot like a carpenter from Galilee who was born 2000 years ago in a manger in Bethlehem.

Fast forward to June 2007 and reportedly Barbara Walters' telephone conversation with Paris Hilton goes something like this: "I'm not the same person I used to be, I acted dumb but it was an act. At 26 years old, that act is no longer cute. It does not reflect who I am, nor represent the kind of example that I want to set for the young girls who look up to me. NOW I KNOW that I have the POWER to MAKE A DIFFERENCE. I have been thinking that I want to do different things when I am out of here. I have become much more spiritual. GOD HAS GIVEN ME THIS NEW CHANCE."

AS THOUGH THAT WERE NOT ENOUGH OF A REVELATION FOR THE MOMENT!!!!!

I hear Britney Spears saying in her blog:

“The reason for this letter is to let everyone know that their PRAYERS have truly helped me. I am so BLESSED that you care enough about me to be concerned and (I) will continue to live in this BRIGHTER STATE with all of you by my side during this trying time.”
Spears continues: “We are all LIGHTS of the world and we all need to continuously inspire others and look to the HIGHER POWER. You are all in my PRAYERS. GODSPEED.
Love, Britney.”

Does anyone have an idea how many young impressionable women listen to every word that comes
out of the mouths of these young women? Let's see these young people through His eyes, for He is their redeemer and HE LIVES!
If it were possible to speak with Baalim of Old Testament fame, he would tell us that God uses whomever
He chooses to speak to a generation.

For most of the New Testament would not have been written had a fanatical, zealous murderer of christians named Saul, not been singled out, given a Damascus Road experience and in God's own words -
" straightway he (Saul, now known as Paul) preached Christ in the synagogues, that He is the Son of God"
- Acts: 9:20

With some encouragement instead of reveling in and for the most part profiting from their misfortune, I pray and hope that their recent antics will result in a Damascus Road experience for them which may benefit their generation as much as Saul's experience benefited the Gentiles.

NOTHING will separate Paris and Britney from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord, neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers nor things present nor things to come nor heights not depths, nor any other creature (nor Hollywood, nor paparazzi, nor glitz, nor glamour, nor Sarah Silverman)

It's as though God is having the last laugh as I hear Him saying:
"The very people you worship and put on a pedestal will now DIRECT YOU to ME."

FOR THE EARTH SHALL BE COVERED BY THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE
LORD AS THE WATERS COVER THE SEA.....ISAIAH 11:9

______________________________________________________

This is my (e-mail) question for Paris on Larry King Live.....

"When you said in your telephone interview from jail that "GOD HAD GIVEN YOU A NEW CHANCE and you had the POWER to MAKE A DIFFERENCE and you wanted to do different things and become much more spiritual", were you aware of the fact that you were fulfilling a prophecy in Joel 2:28 where God said that He would pour out His Spirit on all flesh; and our sons and daughters would prophesy?
In other words, not even jail nor Sarah Silverman could separate you, Paris,
from God's love!"
Let's tune in to see if this or a similar question is answered.


JisLOML

common sense

Dr. Sowell provides regular examples of why common sense is UNcommon. He offers insights that many people might come to on their own, but seldom do. For that, we owe him an incalculable debt of thanks.

Another thing he does is avoid excessive emphasis on negatives. Most of his critiques point to a better path. Some of the doomsayers on Townhall would do well to heed the example. Gloom, vilifying and awfulizing are turnoffs. Optimists do most of the real good in the world.

In this Sowell essay, we can infer that real accomplishments deserve more attention than the semi-pornographic distractions of mere celebrity. In answer to Dr. Sowell's questions about the comparitive importance of celebrities to inventors and medical researchers, I thought immediately of Faraday, Franklin & Edison who did so much to harness electricity, Jenner who developed the smallpox vaccine and Lister who did early work on the importance of antisepsis.

Some truly high achievers have been self-promoters; some not. Probably the ones who weren't were too busy extending the frontiers of knowledge to bother mugging for newshounds. Even today there are such people at work. Likewise, there are plenty of people not slavering over bimbos' sordid antics, but lapping up real knowledge about the advancement of civilization. There's a new biography about Einstein on the bestseller lists, by the same author who biographied Ben Franklin a few years ago.

Let's hope Dr. Sowell keeps showing us how to keep our eye on the ball.

Doing Something About It
A few months ago I decided I could either spend hours figuring out how to filter the pipelines of intellectual and moral efflux flowing into our home just to stanch the decay of my kids’ minds and souls or I could spend the same amount of time (or less) doing things with my kids that actually strengthened them.

I considered unilaterally pulling the plug on the feeds of Media putrefaction but decided instead to give my kids some compelling alternatives and let them choose.

I am a web application developer by profession so I gave my teenage boys the alternative of letting me teach them how to make websites like YouTube instead of being victimized by it. Without hesitation, they turned off the TV and jumped at the chance.

One of them wanted to learn how to make the computer games he plays. I’ve never done that kind of software and it’s not my specialty at all. But that’s what we are both doing in the evenings now.

My teenagers have no idea who Anna Nicole Smith was and they do not know if Paris Hilton is or is not in jail this week. Most importantly, they do not really care to know.

Epilogue:
The world REALLY NEEDS decent, somewhat factually-based sources of news and information. All news and information sources have always been biased and there have always been the peddlers of pure propaganda. But there used to be a lot of sources of news and information that had enough of a basis in fact that they could be safely consumed as long as they were taken with a small dose of conservative digestive tablets.
When I was a teenager, my father brought into our home the local newspaper, The Wall Street Journal, New York Times, Time Magazine and U.S. News & World Report (in addition to National Review and Human Events). My father taught us about the liberal ooze dripping all over the articles and would provide warnings where necessary. But for the most part, he could rely on what he taught us about how to spot liberalism to figure out for ourselves where the liberal agenda was leaking through.
Those sources today are nothing but liberal propaganda. I would be nuts to bring those sources of “news” and “information” into my home today. I would just as soon sit my kids in front of a Michael Moore muckumentary as Katie Couric’s “news” program.
The only acceptable option for news and information is to encourage my kids to visit townhall.com, nationalreview.com and humanevents.com, the major sports sites, weather.com and perhaps the local portion of the local newspapers’ websites. Drudgereport.com is not something I can readily recommend nor anything like it.

No menagerie of websites comes even close to being a comparable alternative to what used to be available from a local newspaper, national newspaper and national news magazine. Local news and information in particular is almost nonexistent and I fear it is moving beyond annoying and becoming dangerous.

None of my neighbors even knows the name of the mayor of our city which is the second largest in the state! Our water bill has increased over 1,200% in the last 5 years but in the same time period more reservoirs went into operation and the supply of water is in a surplus state. I cannot find single article explaining why the bill has shot up when the supply is in a surplus in any local newspaper or television news station.

Everyone gripes about it but people literally do not know what to do. They don’t even seem to know that they CAN do something.

The average income for this second largest city in the state is around $90,000/yr (that’s from a Census report, not my bellybutton). The average age is 38 years. My neighbors are doctors, lawyers, accountants, executives, etc. AND NONE OF THEM HAVE ANY IDEA HOW GOVERNMENT WORKS! (Except for one whose father is a U.S. Senator. But I’ll bet the neighbors on either side of that person cannot tell you the first name of the senator or how many terms he has been in office or what his vote was on anything.)

A great part of this ignorance can be charged to the fact that none of them can remember any class in their entire education through post-graduate that explained anything about how government works.

The greater part of the blame is on the total lack of even slightly-factually based news and information sources that these people have access to. They all watch local television news and about a third of them subscribe to the local paper. But there is no real news or information in those sources.

When La Rasa bussed in thousands of “protestors” to coerce the city council into hiring workers without regard to citizenship status, my neighbors had no idea the “protestors” they saw on the local news station report of the “protest” had never set foot in the state let alone the city before that event.

There was not a U.S. flag to be seen among the sea of Mexican flags held by the “protesters”. Those who can read Spanish could see that the most common banner being held up read, “Return Our Stolen Lands".

What is more frightening is that my neighbors do not realize that their liberty is in serious jeopardy. They passively allow their government to be controlled by a mob of FOREIGN CRIMINALS! Think about it. A city council was extorted by a mob of law-breaking foreigners. The law-breaking foreigners shouldhave been summarily arrested and deported as current law dictates.

Too bad the British soldiers who thought the world had been turned upside down at Yorktown could not see that it would be flipped 180 degrees in just a couple hundred years time.

The “report” on the city council “meeting” showed up as a single paragraph on page L-26.

WE NEED NEWS AND INFORMATION OPTIONS!

READ: WbWC
Wow! What a post -- and spot on!

If there weren't a market for all that garbage in the media, they wouldn't produce it.

As Walt Kelly said, "We have met the enemy, and he is us."

Achievement, Accomplishment
Should people take a vote on what constitutes an "achievement" or an "accomplishment"

Does Sowell define what is an achievement or an accomplishment?

Are news columnists accomplished?

I'd say they are accomplished in destroying America.


HE doesnt mention the beautiful Paris Hilton by name, but there is a pic of her.


Geesh man everyone is piling on, I think Greta Van Sustern stuck up for a bit yesterday, perhaps the only one I've seen.

Today in America, I see this shark-like predatory instinct in too many people where they see someone down and forces aligning against the person and everyone sees an opportunity to get in line to take a shot. Its so awful. I like to think America at one time was the type of place where that kind of mentality didnt go on. It reminds me of brainless talk shows where every audience member stands up and berates some contemptible guest competing for cheers from the brainless audience.
You see the same mentality even at townhall.
The nation has to collectively look itself in the mirror and reform itself somehow.

Also Sowell seems to blame those in front of the camera for where America's attention is drawn, instead of those behind the camera,
Its those behind the camera that is the problem!

Paris Hilton
What did Paris Hilton do? She got you to write an article about her. The media and the paparazzi are the problem, not the bimbos.

Not a Capitalist Here
If the shortstop/second baseman I never see is worth 7 million a year, surely lovely Paris who I see almost daily on the tube/net is worth a measly million. Life is not fair. Get over it.

As to Dr. Sowell's piece, I loved it. However, Paris and her ilk are not the problem. What about Thomas Sowell? Has he not gained stature on something other than his looks or his ability to hit a flying object? Does he get millions? I do not know, but because I do not know, does not mean he does not.

and one more thing
There seems to be an idea out there that Hilton has some sort of an obligation to prove something to people. I hope she doesnt believe that nonsense. She has nothing to prove to anyone. Hopefully she continues to just be her awesome self. I happen to think she is one of the rare people in the world that are beautiful on the inside and the outside, but thats just me.

For those that have a burning need to judge people, judge lawyers, judges, most news columnists,jihadist rabble rousers, violent criminals, ya know those that acutally do bad things

Excellent article again, Dr. Sowell!
Maybe if some of the posters here knew a little about brevity and consiseness, their posts would be readable. I don't have enough time to read a post that is twice as long as the article it refers to.

forrest- you gotta be kidding me!
Paris Hilton is a worthless nobody that is only famous for being a tramp and having inherited a sh1tl0ad of money.

Exactly what do you admire her for?

Her courtroom histrionics?

Her internet video?

Her stellar performance on a failed reality show?

Her hair extensions?

Her eating disorder?

Yes, I must admit I find these things "awsome." At least I am awed by the public's capacity to swallow a load of *bleep*

Paris who?
.

mountain
people like you are a big problem, I'm pretty sure that people like you represent like 1% maybe 2% of the population, though you would never get that impression from the media, townhall included.

I am with Diet Doc
I wonder about this society's fascination with people like Anna Nicole and Paris Hiton. What is there in us that goes for the lowest comon denominator? How about the decrease of those attending the symphony or the opera, and yet people clamor instead for so called artists of rap who give out sex, violence and hate? Pretty clothes are reduced to a few yards of material fairly much revealing all the wearer has to show. The most successful books are formulas of sex and violence or political tirades that paint the opposition in the most awful terms. Movies and TV are offensive to those with any sense of appropriateness. Documentaries, thanks to Michael Moore, are spin pieces to present a pre-ordained point of view. History books have become propaganda along with the documentaries. I could go on, but are we like the Roman empire in its last days of decadence?

mountain of dishonesty and contemptibili
SO I am gonna use mountains post as an example of dishonesty and just general a--hole-ness in America, hopefully people can use this as an excercise of how to spot these characteristics, and avoid paying attention to these types of people

THigns that immediately jump out

1) No one is worthless, saying someone is worthless, is an insult to God Almighty, (sadly I am guilty of this myself sometimes, we should all try to control are tempers when delaing with difficult people)

2) a trivial point but I didnt say I admire her, but I did say she is beautiful on both the inside and outside. Mountain uses this "why do I admire her" lie to segue into deeper contempitibilty

3)wreckless wild accusations not merting a repsonse

4) "failed reality tv show". When you consider the fact (not opinion) that 99% of everything on TV SUCKS, with the exception of CHristian Broadcasting network, its nothing to be ashamed of even if it were true. There is clearly an effort to avoid anything resembling quality entertainment by the tv program makers, although I think that new Shaq show is cute. He seems genuinely and sincerely interested in helping those kids and that I find admirable. what do you think of Shaq mountain?

5) more dishonesty of course in that if Im not mistaken there have been like 5 seasons, but thats neither here nor there. Genereally speaking, with some exceptions, (less each day) those propped up and awarded and glorified on TV and news, are unimpressive at best deeply contemptible at worst.

yeah so mountain, based on my brief window into what type of person you are, I have to say you suck really bad , I'll pray for you though that you somehow become a better person.

jlg, stop believing everything Ann says
jlg said "Actually, soothsayer, she was paraphrasing Bill Maher, who had said the same thing earlier about Dick Cheney, to no liberal outrage. She was pointing out the liberal double standard which judges, not just on what was said, but on who said it. You made her point very neatly."

Bill Maher never said that.

It was a total lie by the conservative talk shows. Look at Bill Maher's transcript from March 3, 2007: http://www.safesearching.com/billmaher/transcripts/

And, why does Sowell only name 2 liberal "loudmouths"? Why not be un-biased and name a couple of conservative loudmouths like Ann Coulter or Bill O'Reilly?

soothsayer, grow up and get an education
soothsayer decries some Republican (must have been Ann Coulter) who said "If I’m going to say anything about John Edwards in the future, I’ll just wish he had been killed in a terrorist assassination plot."

Soothsayer apparently doesn't realize Ms. Coulter (if that's who it was) was lampooning a DEMOCRAT who said exactly the same thing about our Vice President.

Democrats like Soothsayer actually do get satire; they just dishonestly pretend they don't when it's time to slur a Republican.

When I see a celebrity name
I usually skip it. Both the Denver Post and the Rocky Mountain News had extensive coverage of the astronaut's problems and return. It was Associated Press writing but it was in the newspaper to read IF anyone will!

Everyone here who has pointed out that the problem is us is right.

forrest
"1) No one is worthless, saying someone is worthless, is an insult to God Almighty"

Oh really? If that is so then why is it that many people will be condemned to Hell? Sure, GOD loves the sinner and hates the sin but it is precisely the sin that makes some people worthless. Are you going to argue that people like Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Saddam Hussein were worthwhile people? I certainly hope not.

"2) a trivial point but I didn't say I admire her, but I did say she is beautiful on both the inside and outside."

What exactly is it she has done that makes her beautiful on the inside as you state? She may be attractive physically but she is an empty suit and that is the essence of her ugliness. Her actions, her words have shown her to be a spoiled-rotten brat. Spoiled -rotten brats are not beautiful people on the inside.

Maybe you should spend a bit more time praying for yourself since you are obviously confused about the gospel and what it teaches. Jesus never condoned irresponsible, sinful behavior and neither should those who confess to be his people. Stop making excuses for sinful behavior under the guise of not being judgmental.....that attitude may be fine for un-believers but it is NOT for real Christians.

syler, another disingenuous liberal...
...pretending he doesn't get satire.

What Maher literally said was: "The Taliban tried to blow up Dick Cheney. Don’t worry, he’s okay. [laughter]"

Do I really have to explain the concept of comic irony to you? I know I don't, I know you're intelligent enough to get it, and I know you're a liar to the core of your being, PRETENDING you don't get it. But in case there's somebody here who is studying American culture from abroad, or who has an IQ of around 75 and needs the assistance:

The audience was laughing because every one of them took it for granted, as Maher knew they would, that they did not WANT Dick Cheney to be ok; that would have preferred that the Taliban succeed. Oh, don't worry, they were only joking; they don't REALLY think we'd be better off with Dick Cheney dead. Except, they do.

I wish this was the first and only time an American liberal dishonestly pretended not to understand the vicious satire of their own side. But it's not. It's a pattern. They pretend sheer ignorance at the constant stream of viciousness from their own side, but immediately demonstrate that they DID get it when the rare instance occurs of a similar, vicious insult from one of their opponents.

Hypocrites to the core.

forrest, pulleeeeez
forrest wrote: "I didn't say I admired [Paris Hilton], I said I thought she was beautiful inside and out."

So if you think she's beautiful inside and out, but you don't admire her, we can only infer that you... admire ugliness?

I'm confused.

Princess Di!
Just when you thought it was safe to watch TV we will get a week full of Princess Di nonsense. The same week she died in a car wreck Mother Theresa passed away in India with hardley a murmer. Now compare the lives these two people lived. NBC is gonna have some big gala with Elton John, Bono and a few others on the tenth anniversary of her death. I'd bet the farm there will be little if anything said about Mother Theresa but you know I believe she would want it that way.

I am John Doe.

one dumbguy at inkiling
You both seem very dumb, (maybe intentionally ), to me so I am not niterested in discussing anything with you.

but maybe you will say something really stupid or false and I may in a spirit of correction say something

inkling_revival, twisting the facts
You said "Soothsayer apparently doesn't realize Ms. Coulter (if that's who it was) was lampooning a DEMOCRAT who said exactly the same thing about our Vice President."

Ann said to GMA: "Bill Maher was not joking and saying he wished Dick Cheney had been killed in a terrorist attack."

See, it's the right-wing spin machine at its best. I understand that Bill Maher played along with his audience in a satirical show. But, Maher NEVER said "exactly the same thing" that You think and Bill never "wished" the Vice-President dead, like Ann thinks.

I don't condone what Bill or Ann said, but let's get the facts straight.

And, if you think I'm being too picky, then take a quote from Ann Coulter: "...by the way, I did not call John Edwards the F-word. I said I couldn't talk about him because you go into rehab for using that word."

Christianity




if you were a true Christian you would understand that its not about condemning people, thats the spirit of the enemy.


People need to focus on getting their own house order, judging not lest they be judged, not criticizing specks of dust while missing planks,not casting stones, forgiving people,loving one another

Clearly you totally miss the point of Christianity if you see it as an opportunity to be an accusatory, judgemental, flaw and shorfall policeman,

thats the enemies role.


This is not to say that a civilized society can do without a system that punishes bad behavior, but it calls for wise and FAIR and righteous judges and arbiters of justice and we are sorely and dangeroulsy lacking there.

If you are interested in condemning people, start with the judicial system and lawyers and the news media

inkling_revival
I take offense at your comment "...and I know you're a liar to the core of your being..."

You know nothing about me except for a few posts on a conservative forum. Do not presume me to be a "liar to the core" based on such little knowledge.

syler, get your facts straight...
Here's a link to what Bill Maher said. (Thanks to http://newsbusters.org/node/11169 for providing the following):

http://msunderestimated.com/RealTimePt2.wmv

And here is the relevant dialogue from the link:

...

Maher: What about the people who got onto the Huffington Post – and these weren’t even the bloggers, these were just the comments section – who said they, they expressed regret that the attack on Dick Cheney failed.

Joe Scarborough: Right.

Maher: Now…

John Ridley: More than regret.

Maher: Well, what did they say?

Ridley: They said 'We wish he would die.' I mean, it was (?) hate language.

Barney Frank: They said the bomb was wasted. (laughter and applause)

Maher: That’s a funny joke. But, seriously, if this isn’t China, shouldn’t you be able to say that? Why did Arianna Huffington, my girlfriend, I love her, but why did she take that off right away?

...

Ridley: It’s one thing to say you hate Dick Cheney, which applies to his politics. It’s another thing to say, “I’m sorry he didn’t die in an explosion." And I think, you know…

Maher: But you should be able to say it. And by the way...

Frank: Excuse me, Bill, but can I ask you a question? Do you decide what the topics are for this show?

Maher: Yeah, I decide the topics, they don’t go there.

Frank: But you exercise control over the show the way that she does over her blog.

Maher: But I have zero doubt that if Dick Cheney was not in power, people wouldn’t be dying needlessly tomorrow. (applause)

Scarborough: If someone on this panel said that they wished that Dick Cheney had been blown up, and you didn’t say…

Frank: I think he did.

Scarborough: Okay. Did you say…

Maher: No, no. I quoted that.

Frank: You don’t believe that?

Maher: I’m just saying if he did die, other people, more people would live. That’s a fact.

...

Now syler, before you get your knickers in a knot, please note that I said her comment was a PARAPHRASE. She distilled the essence of his remarks in her own.

But please don't take my word for it, or Ann's either. Check out the clip for yourself.

Your apology is accepted.

condone
I dont condone most of the behavior of most of the commenters on this blog.

But what I condone is not really important,

what God condones and what HE alone is the judge of, is what matters, and those doing or having done things God does not condone, there is good news, Jesus Christ forgives you.

As the Lord's prayer puts it,

Jesus forgives people their trespasses as people forgive those who trespass against them.

syler
Take offense all you like. If I were you, I'd take offense every time I looked in a mirror.

If you know how to draw logical inferences (and please note, I base my assessment of your character on the presupposition that you DO), then you'll realize I posited two other possible conclusions in my post about you. They were

1) you're a foreigner, unfamiliar with American culture, and don't understand comic irony as practiced by Americans;

2) you're a half-wit, with an IQ just below a "learning disabled" diagnosis.

Those three, however, are the only logical conclusions I can come to. You're either stupid, unfamiliar with American humor, or you're just too thoroughly dishonest to acknowledge the genuine ill will Maher and his audience showed the Vice President, which is obvious to the casual observer.

What I know about you is, thus, the result of a correctly formed logical syllogism. I presuppose that you know what that is.

I twisted no facts. Unlike you, I genuinely care about accuracy -- and Ms. Coulter (again, I'm assuming that's who it was, it sounds like her) was ENTIRELY accurate in her jibe. You don't think the point of Maher's "joke" was that he and the audience would have preferred that the Taliban succeed? You don't think such "jokes" express genuine preferences? We're back to the foreigner/idiot/liar trichotemy.

forrest
You still didn't answer my points but I will take the time to respond to yours. No, I do not think Christianity is about condemning people but I also know it is not about burying your head in the sand and condoning sin or looking the other way. My point is that your remark about Paris Hilton being beautiful on the inside was pure fantasy. Exactly what is it that makes her beautiful on the inside as you claim? Believers are called to be wise in addition to forgiving but forgiveness is not a blank check...it still requires repentance on the part of the offender. Does Jesus require repentance or is salvation granted to all? It is not a sin to point out sin....Jesus did it ad he expects his people to do it. Without the consciousness of sin how can people be expected to repent? The real sin is GOD's people NOT speaking out against sin but instead keeping silent in order to appease (appear "non-judgmental").
I do agree with you about our judicial system. I have long said that it stopped being a justice system and has become a legal system that serves the interest of the legal profession rather than victims. I also agree that the media is a problem.

maher proves HE doesn't get it
Note this comment from Bill Maher:

"John Ridley: They said 'We wish he would die.' I mean, it was (?) hate language.

"Barney Frank: They said the bomb was wasted. (laughter and applause)

Maher: That’s a funny joke. But, seriously, if this isn’t China, shouldn’t you be able to say that?"

Maher clearly doesn't get it, in a manner so incredibly common to liberals. This ISN'T China. He CAN say that. He DOES say the comic equivalent of that.

But what he can't stop is the absolutely correct assessment that he's a man of vicious, low character for saying it.

Conservatives don't want to stop free speech. We LIKE it when our opponents expose themselves as morally vacuous animals (although we do wish there were fewer moral cretins in our culture). But we won't let you stop us from drawing the obvious and correct conclusions about you when you DO say what you're legally permitted to say.

onewise
You have probably successfully tricked me into thinking you are a serious commenter, but I guess I am somewhat gullable.

the point is leave her alone, she is a nice young woman, your focusing on specks of dust and missing gigantic planks, there are much worse behavior to point out if you are interested in being some sort of policeman.

Yes you should speak out against unrighteousness and sin and bad behavior, so do it, there is rampant unrighteousness and dishonesty all over the place, speak out against it please.

i challenge you
to work on your ability to better identify right and wrong, and have some sense of proportion in your identification of right and wrong.

paris
why should the fascination with this airhead surprise anyone. I keep hearing from the libs of their undying admiration for that dirty joke from arkansas. In some polls he is rated as one of the greatest presidents in our history. That shows a total disconnect from reality and no understanding or knowledge of our history. I asked my kid about this interest in paris airhead. His reply: like watching a train wreck, people just get pleasure from watching this airhead act as though she is someone when she is mearly a legend in her own mind. However what is troubling is that there are those who claim to admire her but then again there are those who also admire Rosie. Go figure

wildwest
typical airhead townhall commenter

you are the airhead if you think that becuase an image is on TV or on the news that this means that people are interested.

one of the many lies out there is that tv is ratings driven, such an obvious lie.

A quick look at the racial and ethnic demographics of this country and the fact that this percentage breakdown is not reflected on television should give you a clue.

Whats on TV is NOT what people are interested in.


forrest
another fugitive from a parallel universe.

if TV were ratings driven
Sowell would have a TV show.

Matthews would be mowing lawns

COulter would have a tv show

OLberman would be washing cars.

If TV were ratings driven

instead of shows where anglo saxon looking males are serial killers , molesters, rapists drug addicts , drug dealers, racists etc.


A show with a young anglo saxon looking male as the lead character possessing virtues of strength and honor and integrity would be on TV.


forrest
...challenge me all you want but it is not me who has trouble supporting their conclusions.

onewiseguy
we should have sympathy for the narrowminded forrest. He suffered brain meltdown when paris exposed herself. It affected his thinking and he forgot to take his meds. But I guess that is the danger of coming in contact with the beautiful(?) and super intelligent(?) hilton. I guess the rest of the world has totally misjudged her when wirtnessing her act and listening to her wisdom

massaging the idea


hopefully that 1:57 idea quietly and slowly takes root in people, and manifests itself peacefully and reasonably and with heavy doses of love and forgiveness, and no hate in the heart. My intention is not for that idea to arouse ire or be provoke bad responses, just something that people should be aware of.

-righteousness, love truth, and peace

Names
Some parents should be shot for what they name their children. And some just go alone with whatever is popular. The names Jennifer and Tiffany are the most popular, with one elementary teacher telling me that one year she had 5 Tiffs and 5 Jens with 8 others. Including one name that was almost impossible to pronounce.

But sometimes parents do name their children in such as way as to win an award. Just look at Paris. From that name, came an award winning title for a pornographic movie, "A Night in Paris"!

Stop blaming the victim!
Please, stop blaming the poor American people for what the media put on the air!

I know everything there is to know about Rosie, Anna Nicole, and Paris, and I never wanted to know anything about any one of them!

I am sick to death of everyone blaming the American Public for this lunacy! FOX News took a poll to see who wanted to hear more about Anna Nicole, and it came back that over 70% of their viewers did NOT want to hear any more about it!

So, what was the relentless coverage of the day? Anna Nicole!!!

Fox, like all news sources, likes to blame Americans for the crap they cover, but when given the opportunity to vote, we ALL vote NOT to hear about it. So WHY DO THEY KEEP ON COVERING IT???!!!

I'm not a mind reader, but I can assure you, it is NOT the American people who are asking for it. We're having it shoved down our throats!

Where are all the navel gazers, asking what went wrong with the Newscasters, and the people who decide what makes it on the air? You're all so quick to assume that anyone who watched the news did so because they just had to have their daily Paris fix, but when were we given a choice?

I search every morning, trying to find an alternative that gives me the actual news, but I have yet to find it, and I have 77 channels!

Don't shoot me, SHOOT THE MESSENGER!

mobius
while listening one morning to bob and tom, two indianapolis dj's they were interviewing Peyton Manning. He had heard from a school teacher of the huge popularity of kids called peyton at her school in knoxviile, tn as a result of his leading the tenn. football team past alabama for three straight years. I guess we find our heroes where we can

KM
Christian Broadcasting Network rocks, you should check it out

one positive thing about the media
I have to appluad the media in general for one thing however.

I feel that in 2007, more than any other time, man is less likely to resort to violence to solve problems.

I suppose its debatable as to whether or not this is a good thing.

I believe it is a good thing.

I notice that even on the Ultimate fighter shows they go out of their way to say, something like "violence is not the way to settle disputes"

and I appluad the media in general for tgetting thta message out there

IN all sincerity they do a good job with that.

forrest
I owe you an apology. Now that I see you admire both Paris Hilton and ultimate fighter I see where you are coming from. I think I misjudges you and thought you to be one dimensional and delusional. I was right

Things are as good as it gets!!
There are so many media outlets there is no reason to ever watch something that doesn't interest you. I don't understand why people complain so much about it. There are many other things within your own little worlds, i'm sure, to take care of or accomplish.

I am in the middle of reading Ronald Reagan's diaries and no one had to put up with the media bashing him every day with the nation coming out of the brink of destruction (if carter would have been re-elected). But President Reagan always stayed on message and never gave up hope (hence i named one of my daughters Hope, my favorite word in the dictionary) We should be focusing on other things than Paris Hilton and whether she deserves what she has........... who cares, good for her.........lets just worry about what we need/want for our own families and by the way these problems do include domestic and foreign policy concerning free trade and tax policy among other things. I tried to read through some of these people's comments and I just sit back and scratch my head, cause i don't get why so much hub bub is made of this topic on many levels. I love Dr. Sowell but I don't believe this story is worth speaking of. I think he is just pointing out the obvious. There is a reason that most people don't understand economics........... they have never studied it. But gossip is something most people get. Lets just stay on point and keep the good word going on how to improve our country economically and when each one of us meets our maker we will have to deal with our sins.

The funny thing if you ask most people they think the world is on the brink of destruction. I look at it and say things have never been so good and if everyone dare tells me otherwise I will show you how 20,30 or 40 years ago was even worse than today on many levels.

Good luck to you all!!

wildwest
WHile I didnt say I admire Paris Hilton,

now that you mention it, I certianly dont (whatever the opposite of admire is, unadmire?) her,

you keep mis=representing me.

I think people reading this are gonna be like

hey wildwest is a jerk he keeps misrepresenting that forest guy.


c mon wildwest you are better than that,

believer
congrats on the best post of the day,

Glad to see Sowell attracts quality people

forrest
you initiated this conversation. You are the one praising her beauty. You are the intollerant religious bigot who insulted others who did not agree with your positions, while hiding behind your beliefs. Perhaps if you made some attempt at being clever and witty you might show a modicum of intelligence. You have the right to admire anyone you chose to but don't act in some high and mighty way when others disagree with you that there is something wrong with their thinking. You are in a small minority of people singing her praises. That is your choice. The other 99% of people who have had the misfortune of being subjected to her wasted life via the news media can see her for the self promoting fraud she is. Nothing you can post will change that. Having a jail record, having movies of yourself engaged in sex acts, exposing your privates in public and babbling nonsense is not indicative of anyone with something on the ball. Obviously you are incapable of seeing that truth

inkling_revival, take a deep breath
You need to sit down, take a deep breath and calm down.

Nowhere in my posts do I condone what Bill Maher hinted at. What I do state is that Ann Coulter, and YOU, misstated the facts.

Read the GMA and Bill Maher transcripts and then come back to discuss it rationally.

And, enough with the "I'm assuming that's who it was" bit. If you're too lazy to look up the interview then you have no business arguing what was said.

jlg, my apologies
I now see that you did say "paraphrase" in your post. And, that is what Ann was doing.

Why are sports figures mentioned
Why has Dr. Sowell mentioned sports figures since they contribute little to nothing to society? Take away the feats of childrens games and what have they done for society?

It is a judgmental society
I believe Dr. Sowell is brilliant, but the analysis needs a little bit of a twist: We do NOT live in a non-judgmental society, it is just a society that has moved from judging others on a religious-character ethic to a social-cause ethic. (From the Ten Commandments to the PC Police.) I tossed an empty bottle into the trash can (there was no recycle bin in sight) and got the riot act from a colleague for not paying proper homage to Mother Earth. I bore my lecture in silence, but I couldn't help thinking that in my work environment (a university) I could sleep with a different woman every weekend and no one would bat an eyelash, but heaven help you if you don't recycle. It is this same switch in ethics that allows Hollywood celbrities to be popular heroes for speaking out against the evils of "global warming," while their trashy personal lives are not only tolerated, but admired.

wildwest=pig
yer getting repetitious now.

by the way whats up with the human instinct to have the last word, I am guilty too, its as if somehow it strengthen the case to get the last word.

I have a new respect for Bill O reilly who reguarly offers his guests the last word,

I would never do that, I would be like "all right hurry up" id roll my eyes while the other person was talking, each time they pause Id be like "u done?" then I would turn off their mic and lecture till the commercial

but thats just me


The Media
Whether you agree with him or not, Rush Limbaugh is right on with his comment that "news announces the importance of things." If it were not for their anointing by the media, I don't think there would be much interest in the likes of Paris Hilton, Madonna, et. al. My parents generation had a word for women like them. They called them tramps, and left it at that.

Sowell's message... same old same old?
For Sowell to say "The problem is that the society at large *no longer* has standards by which to deny or rebuke attention-seekers who have nothing to contribute to society."

Weren't people saying this back when MTV premiered or when Elvis started dancing, or when the flappers first appeared in the 20's?

Wasn't Muhammad Ali an attention-seeker during the 60's and 70's?

Doesn't every old generation feel as though the new generation is more denegrating to society than they were?

Why does Sowell feel as though we suddenly have this problem with attention-seekers today?

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what Sowell is saying? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Syler:
You've missed Mr. Sowell's point. "Let your actions speak for themselves".

Ali was a showman, but no one can doubt his abilities. There is a big difference between being a showman and "showboating". The great ones don't have to, nor seldom do, toot their own horn.

Boooooooom!!!
I agree, Professor. I've seen examples of this wherever I go---and not only the instances you mention in your essay.

This posting was meant for last night, but in it's imperial wisdom, TH took a pass on my posting, and I didn't get back to it until now. I would remind posters to temper their comments on the media and media hogs with the thought that Professor Sowell was also talking about the sub-average Joes and Janes walking and driving around loose.

From my apartment's front window I can see and hear a lot: the seemingly muffler-less motorcycles roaring past my building at all hours of the day and night with a cacophony of ear-splitting sound waves; the same type of automobiles trying to keep up with the motorcycles; the automobiles with the apparently earless drivers, having their rock/rap music/radios shaking the foundations of all the buildings in the neighborhood; the smaller motorcycles roaring around the big green across the street every weekend---just droning along, hour after hour.

When I go out, I see the heavy-set women in tight clothing showing every line of their ugly bodies; the skimpy-sexy clothing of the better-shaped women/girls; the tawdry jewelry on the garishly clothed, far-less-than-pretty women; men with pony tails and earrings; men with their trousers and jeans so low they can barely walk---but they show underwear and, sometimes, parts of their bodies; men and women with their numerous, ultra-graphic and meretricious tattoos; clueless individuals with their roaring boom boxes; and the list goes on.

We give our children awards for doing what they should be doing in the first place; teaching is geared more toward 'self-esteem' instead of needful facts and social skills for living and working; we have child beauty contests and other parentally-vicarious contests; we have ten-year olds piloting airplanes; children who actually want to learn something in school being called and treated as nerds; again, the list goes on.

These are the things of modern society. These are the things of attention getting. And so long as they are considered normal and tolerated, our culture will continue it's decline.

Kodiak

Your observation about the shifting fashions in ethics among academics was spot-on and stood out from most of the surrounding commentary, which got bogged down in speculations about the personal lives of celebrities the posters claim not to care about but know a great deal.

I hope to read more of your insights. I'm still chuckling.

AMEN!
Dr. Sowell is on target--again. Thanks to liberal news media and a dumbed-down public that feeds like bottom dwellers on the news trash, this attention getting will only get worse with the publication of more stupid, rediculous, and outrageous behavior while the important issues of significance and urgency go whizzing by the average Joe. No wonder America is on the skids.

Yes!
Great column.

Witness by Whittaker Chambers writes
READ: Witness by Whittaker Chambers writes: Wednesday, June, 27, 2007 9:14 AM
Doing Something About It

Very, very nice post Mr. Chambers. Congratulations on being a rugged individualist of independent thought as well as a "Doer".

Also I appreciate your advice on kids. I have a thirteen year old just finishing 7th grade, and yes, what to do about it (with them).

forrest
you have proven my points. You can't defend your point of view so you attack. I normally ignore idiots but couldn't pass up the opportunity to tweak the nose of someone like you. It would have been better to have a spirited discussion but that is beyond your abilities. Perhaps once you have graduated from jr high you might be in a better position to defend your arguments. I also notice no one has come to your defense. I guess you don't have a legion of supporters. But what the hey. Enjoy paris and I hope she fills your life with pleasure

hopefully
Sowell ignores the likes wildwest tnmccoy, who praise his dumb ides and give him positive reinforcement.

Now dont get me wrong, Sowell does have lots of good ideas, but this column is way off and shame on on tnmccoy Jim and wildwest.

I think maybe part of the problem with townhall columnists is that they listen too much to the commenters that praise and flatter their stupid ideas.

the praise often seems so insincere in my view
as if commenters are trying to sort of condition and manage and direct the psyche of the columnist, I hate that approach.

Try to at least SEEM sincere

Now perhaps I am wrong and the praisers here are sincere, but I really dont think so


wildwest
I dont think I attacked you,

I called you a pig, all right fine I guess thats kind of attack, but c mon, i think you are making way too big a deal about it but if it bothers you I apologize. I dont want to come across as an attacker.

forrest
is that like forrest gump or incapable of seeing the forrest for the trees. It is truly pitiful when the likes of you casts dispersions on the towering intellect of Dr. Sowell. I would like to credit your ignorance about Dr Sowell to your total ignorance concerning anything remotely intellectual. Before you attempt to discredit Dr. Sowell I would suggest you do some homework to find out who he is. Obviously with that soft liberal education you received you never encountered anyone approaching the intelligence of DR Sowell. You are erxactly what his article was about. Those who have accomplished nothing or caontribute anything but still think they have importance

FlyingFin
But, what is so unique about Sowell's column that warrants such praise from some people?

Attention-getters is nothing unique to this day and age. There might be more outlets for them to express themselves, e.g. internet, tv, radio, etc., but our society has always poduced some outlandish attention-getters.

I don't think there's all of the sudden a degradation of society from the attention-getters that live now versus the attention-getters from years past.

Sowell has said nothing that hasn't been said by every older generation.

wildwest getting all personal and stuff
Like Geraldo said to Bill O reilly "cool your jets"

Sowell is definetly an intelligent man.

you describe his intellect as "towering"

I wouldnt go that far, but maybe if i read more of his stuff from 30-40 years ago I would.

Like all human beings he doeas say some in my opinion dumb things once in a while, and when he does I am likely gonna login to townhall comments and speak my mind, and the readers can all judge for themselves in this wondferul free society with free speech that we live in.









syler
it seems to me that the news media has changed from delivering the news to being almost full time promoters of celebrities. For a while fox news exployed a gossip reporter who was just as stupid as the airheads she reported on. It seems the difference now is that these celebs are in a contest to see who can be the more outrageous and the news media sucks it all up and further encourages this behavior. There have been celebrities since time began, it seems now that they attention driven to the point that if they are not in the news they suffer withdrawl symptoms.

forrest
just a suggestion. Google Thomas Sowell. Perhaps that will give you a better understanding of his accomplishments. Have a good day

Forrest
I find it hard to believe that a sane person could disagree with my observations. After all, they're based on fact.

Ergo, you aren't sane. Or, your not aware of what's going on around you, and that's almost as bad.

If you disagree with me, tell me where and why and do it logically, without names, and with specifics. Otherwise, keep your keyboard quiet.

tnmccoy
out of curiosity are you descended from those families involved in the feud. The name rings a bell and I get curious over names. No offense intended mearly curiosity

Paris Hilton???
Why is everyone talking about a hotel in France?

The article
I am new to TownHall and wanted to comment on some of the comments I have observed...First of all Thomas Sowell is a wonderful writer and intellectual. I admire his works and accomplishments. I would also like to tell Forrest that he is the most bigoted, selfcentered, misinformed person I have ever had to endure comments from...You my friend need to read the Bible in it's entirety, not just the scripts that you embellish.

forrest
forrest writes: Wednesday, June, 27, 2007 12:50 PM
Christianity

if you were a true Christian you would understand that its not about condemning people, thats the spirit of the enemy.

People need to focus on getting their own house order, judging not lest they be judged, not criticizing specks of dust while missing planks,not casting stones, forgiving people,loving one another

Clearly you totally miss the point of Christianity if you see it as an opportunity to be an accusatory, judgemental, flaw and shorfall policeman, thats the enemies role.

This is not to say that a civilized society can do without a system that punishes bad behavior, but it calls for wise and FAIR and righteous judges and arbiters of justice and we are sorely and dangeroulsy lacking there.

If you are interested in condemning people, start with the judicial system and lawyers and the news media
-------------------------
Clearly YOU miss the point of Christianity.

The point of Christianity is salvation unto God by the sacrifice of the blood of Jesus Christ for the sins of Christ's followers. Anything else is window dressing.

geez im being slammed
maybe its my fault, I dished it out a bit,

and hobbit busts out the b word.

thats not ture hobbit

ya know slander really sucks.

while I strongly oppose defamation law suits, slander really does suck, people need to somehow better police themselves.

I guess thats why there are so few intelligent people in the news media. who wants to deal with that. but the problem is nobody deals with it and people get away with it and we are all worse off for it. Quite the dilemna, come to think of it good job Sowell, he was all over the Duke case from the very begining, a year before everyone suddenly turned on Nifong.


Fivo, AMEN! to what you said. I like what I said too though.


more thoughts on slander
One of the negative aspects of free speech, but its always been around and always will be around. So I think you just have to gird up your loins and fight through slander and understand that when you take serious righteous stands and try to correct bad ideas and influence thought and discourse for the better, it comes with the territory, its unfortunately inevitable. I'm reminded of the famous Ezekiel scipture quoted in Pulp Fiction

Ezekiel 25:17 "The Path of the Righteous Man Is Beset on All Sides by The inequities of the Selfish and the Tyranny of Evil Men."

In the broad scheme of things its a tiny price to pay,

I say let slander not deter the righteous, or cause the righteous to compromise and speak less boldly and more cowardly telling the powers of the world what it wants to hear to escape the slander.

And also let people be able to discern slander from legitamate important criticizm.


-righteousness, love, truth, and peace

MSM Right then, Wrong Now
I agree that we are too receptive of celebrity trivia over substantive accomplishment and I accept that we, therefore, bear some of the responsibility for the empty nature of much of the MSMs' product line. But I recall that in the 70’s when compact Japanese cars were first making inroads into the American automotive market, the MSM was positively derisive of excuses from Detroit that they were only producing the big heavy gas-guzzling products their market demanded. The MSM’s point was not so much that Detroit was wrong in its assessment of it’s markets preferences but that beyond that, since that preference was detrimental to our well-being, Detroit had an obligation to provide some leadership in altering the situation.

In retrospect, Detroit was wrong. Their market was ready for smaller more fuel-efficient cars but until someone had the courage to take a risk and provide an alternative that market had no way of expressing its’ preference. Had it taken the risk, Detroit may well be in much better straits than it now finds itself. (Or not, there was also that whole quality thing).

The MSM should now show some courage, take a risk and heed it’s own advice. The one thing more tragic than not learning from ones mistakes is not learning from ones successes. Who is at fault is often different from who can affect the desired change.

to soothsayer
Soothsayer should research the facts before he/she speaks. Ann Coulter's actual remarks were "If Bill Maher can say he wishes Dick Chaney would die in a terrorist attack, whay can't I say I wish John Edwards was killed in a terrorist attack?
Your "representative" is as protected under free speech as my "representative", Mr.Soothsayer. Na na na na na.

Showing off as an economic statement
Body piercing, weird clothing, have some purpose to the perpetrator. What does an economic psychologist say?

Being Judgemental
We constantly hear the left denouncing others for being judgmental or for taking a particular stance on an issue. However, are they not being judgmental when they choose to denounce another for being judgmental or taking a particular stance? What the left is really saying is, " We reserve the right to be judgmental to ourselves."

When people sit on a jury and render a verdict, are they not being judgmental? We pray that they are, be the verdict be guilty or not guilty. We do find occasions when the jury uses the wrong criteria for their verdict, as in the o j simpon case. They are then not being judgmental based upon the facts, but acting out of personal prejudices, which have no place in a jury's deliberations. These personal prejudices are also a form of being judgmental. Again, this is acceptable to the left, as long as the verdict agrees with their own prejudices
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