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Friday, March 09, 2007
Thomas Sowell :: Townhall.com Columnist
Meatgrinder politics
by Thomas Sowell
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If you wanted a textbook example of what is wrong about appointing a special prosecutor, the prosecution of White House aide Lewis "Scooter" Libby is a classic. Let's go back to square one to see how this sorry chapter in criminal law unfolded.

The charge that was trumpeted through the media was that the Bush administration had leaked the fact that Joe Wilson's wife worked for the C.I.A. in retaliation against him for saying that Saddam Hussein was not seeking uranium in Niger, contrary to intelligence reports cited as one of the reasons for invading Iraq.

Since there is a law against revealing the identity of a C.I.A. agent, a great hue and cry went up for a special prosecutor to find and prosecute whoever leaked that information.

Some in the media gleefully anticipated seeing White House adviser Karl Rove, or perhaps even Vice President Dick Cheney, being frog-marched out of the White House in handcuffs.

Attorney General John Ashcroft appointed a special prosecutor, Patrick Fitzgerald, to investigate these charges.

Here is where the story takes a strange and disturbing twist. Today we know what we did not know when it happened -- namely, that Fitzgerald discovered early on that the leaker was not any of the White House officials on whom suspicion was focussed.

It was Richard Armitage in the State Department. Moreover, Joe Wilson's wife had a desk job at the C.I.A. and revealing that fact was not a violation of the criminal law.

In other words, there was no crime to prosecute and there was no mystery to solve as to who had leaked Wilson's wife's name to columnist Robert Novak.

At this point, a regular prosecutor would have decided that he had other things to do than to pursue an investigation of a non-mystery about a non-crime. But special prosecutors are different.

Patrick Fitzgerald insisted on keeping the investigation going for three years -- and keeping secret the fact that there was no crime involved and no mystery about who leaked.

In the course of this pointless investigation, it turned out that some of Scooter Libby's statements conflicted with the statements of some reporters. So Libby was prosecuted for perjury and obstruction of justice -- and a Washington jury convicted him.

Not only did Libby's recollections differ from that of some reporters, some of those reporters differed among themselves as to what had been said and some differed in their later testimony from what they had said in their earlier testimony.

The information about Joe Wilson's wife was so incidental and trivial at the time that it is hardly surprising that it was not fixed in people's minds as something memorable. Only later hype in the media made it look big.

With Libby handling heavy duties in the White House, there is no reason for his memory to be expected to be better than that of others about something like this -- much less to convict him of perjury.

As for the pay-back conspiracy theory of a Bush administration-inspired leak because of Wilson's opposition to the Iraq war, Richard Armitage was not an Iraq war hawk and columnist Robert Novak opposed the war. They had no reason to discredit Wilson.

Even the term "leak" is misleading. In the course of a discussion, Novak simply asked Armitage why someone with no expertise like Joe Wilson had been sent to Niger in the first place -- and Armitage's answer was that he was sent at the suggestion of his wife, who worked at the C.I.A.

Novak's column was not about that fact but mentioned it in passing. From this the liberal media went ballistic with conspiracy theories that we now know were totally false.

A man's life has been ruined because his memories differed from that of others -- whose memories also differed among themselves -- and media liberals are exulting as if their conspiracy theories had been vindicated.

More important, how are we to expect highly qualified people, with far better options than a government job, to risk being put through the Washington meatgrinder because of politics, media hype and special prosecutors who can create crimes in the course of an investigation, when there was none to begin with?

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to andrews
Liberals learned long ago to reject any such quaint, outdated notions of fair play as 'argument' or 'parliamentary debate' because in those forums one can lose. What they have not learned is the significance of opting out. Their short term gains come at everyone's expense in the form of undermining and degrading the spirit and civility imbued within and dependent upon that system. Once one starts down that road to serfdom...

Question
Did or did not Libby claim while being interviewed by the FBI and while under oath in front of a grand jury that he learned who Ms. Plame was and where she worked from Russert and Cooper? Yes he did. Is there or is there not concrete evidence in the form of notes written by Russert, Cooper and others both inside and outside of the White House that it was Libby who informed them as to who Ms. Plame was and where she worked? Yes there is. There are even written notes from VICE PRESIDENT CHENEY himself that clearly show Libby learned who Plame was and where she worked from the VICE PRESIDENT. That is ALL that matters in this case. He lied in an attempt to obstruct justice. Tell all those guys busted by Dateline's "To catch a predator" that they should walk free because they weren't REALLY talking to and showing up to have sex someone under-age because unknown to them the "under-age" person did not exist.

I am more concerned about how many people there are in this country who agree with and applaud the fact that there are members of the current administration who, without checking her status before hand, would leak this information in trying to discredit her husband and as payback for an OP-ED he had written. Why was it so important to discredit him? What he wrote was not going to have any effect on their invasion plans (nothing was going to stop the Iraq invasion). All they had to do was wait for him to publish his book and he would (and did) discredit himself. But when your dealing with people who have been told they are brilliant (Bush, Cheney, Rove, Rumsfeld, Feith, et al) when they are really not very bright, this is the type of stuff that happens. Also, does it not bother anyone else that when Cheney was asked not too long ago on a national television program (I forget which one) if he and the administration had known prior to invading Iraq everything we know now what would have been done differently his responce was "NOTHING, we would do everything exactly the same way." Oh yea, the man is a GENIOUS!

Did anyone catch the point?
The crime was created DURING the investigation...not what started it. With this in mind all you have to do is keep the investigation open as long as you can until there is a conflict in testimony, then you have them. Just another reason politicians are generally incompetent people who cannot make it in the real world.

to Lon
It's been said several times before, including in the post you rebutt...it was not just a couple of reporters who contradicted Libby, it was the VP, Ari Fleischer, a member of his own staff, and a CIA briefer, and a couple of reporters among others.

p.s. Everything you say about Clinton is on the mark. Liberals and Conservatives alike do themselves a misservice by using one to argue the other.

Getting good people into government
This is precisely what the liberals and Democrats want. They want competent conservatives and Republicans to decline to run for office, serve as judges, accept appointment to office. Democrats, their lapdogs in the media and the ultra-lsftists that populate the myriad of non-profit organizations designed to destroy America are well on their way to making sure no one with any decency will do anything but try to avoid being trampled by the left.

The only hope is that the American people might wake up (even slightly) to see what is happening to our great experiment.

Unfortunately, the only person or group that I see that might be able to do that is Osama and the Islamic jihadists, but I see tem as having learned their lesson and will pick off the easy targets in Europe and Canada so that we will be isolated and alone when they come for us with the nukes that might awaken the American people.

Bush will Pardon Libby
As Frank Rich explained in today's NY Times, Bush has no choice but to pardon Libby because he knows too much about how he and Cheney and others rigged the publicity about Iraq's non-existent weapons of mass destruction.

Sowell's columns are so predictable that they could be written by a computer or a moron.

Lon's delusion
"Certainly conservatives deserve a fair amount of compassion on this issue. After all, they made the pretense that a President lying about a personal affair was an impeachable offense and now they have someone on their side accused of perjury and obstruction of justice in the course of an investigation into the outing of a CIA agent, and they need to come up with some kind of justification "

Lon, Lon, Lon. Libs can't even begin to make their case with a throwaway opening paragraph about the Clinton impeachment without getting even circumstances surrounding that issue wrong. You may recall Lon, Clinton, with a well-known and sordid history as a serial sexual predator, when confronted with certain facts, lied to the special prosecutor about his activities, then proceeded to compound these lies with lies to his cabinet members, enlisting them one and all to go out and lie on his behalf to the public (which they did to their great subsequent chagrin), and when finally confronted with inconrovertible evidence (remember the dress Lon, and the DNA?), decided to come clean. So here we have the putative leader of the free world lieing through his teeth and then finally, finally being forced to admit his lies because of incontrovertible evidence. Got it Lon. You and your friends may want a serial liar/sexual predator for a leader but there are those of us who felt we'd be better off without a bounder in that job. On the other hand Lon, Libby was charged with lying by a prosecutor based upon the highly suspect testimony of a couple of members of the press (Russert, Cooper) whose testimony conflicted not only with Libby's but other members of the press as well. Since the judge in this case, for reasons that will probably be overthrown on appeal, would not allow evidence of conflicting recall by the primary witness (Russert) for the prosecution, Libby was found guilty of perjury in a case in which there was no underlying crime. Let's remember, Lon, that while school's still out on Libby's guilt (there will be appeals and likely a new trial) there was never any doubt about Clinton's guilt. The outcome so far: Clinton went free to continue to appease terrorists, Saddam and make nice with the U.N., and a competent, loyal and able public servant faces a jail sentence. If I were a lib, I wouldn't want to push this comparison too far Lon.

Pity
Certainly conservatives deserve a fair amount of compassion on this issue. After all, they made the pretense that a President lying about a personal affair was an impeachable offense and now they have someone on their side accused of perjury and obstruction of justice in the course of an investigation into the outing of a CIA agent, and they need to come up with some kind of justification

Sowell does give a concise account of the case. It is a pity that so little of it is true, or at least things that Sowell has any basis for finding true. And what little is true is mixed with such hypocrisy. He begins by acknowledging that there was a prima facie crime, but insinuates that liberals must have been motivated by something other than concern for the law. (Maybe this is projection from conservatives and the Clinton era). Isn't the fact that a CIA agent was outed enough to want to find out who and why?

Sowell begins the account of where things went wrong by claiming that we now know that the leaker was not one of the expected subjects. In fact we now know that there were 4 different leakers including both Libby and Rove and each leaked to more than one reporter. There is no rule that only one leak counts, or that a leak is only a leak if it is to someone who then publicizes it.

Next he claims that the case is based on the fact that Libby's account differs from reporters. He leaves out, or never bothered to find out, that it also differs from various government officials including at least one Bush partisan (and that doesn't count the discrepency with Cheney which had to be taken back).

He claims that the issue involved was a minor one for Libby, but again perhaps he doesn't know that Cheney made reference to it in a document that was presented to Libby. Or that there is evidence that Libby enquired about the matter with his CIA source and so forth.

That is to say that if you ignore the bulk of the evidence put forward at the actual trial, then Sowell gives a reasonable account.

It is also amusing that conservatives are now in the position of saying that the process which is reliabke enough to put a man to death is not reliable enough to deal with perjury.

Just reviewed my post...
Make that Dr. Sowell.

THIS WAS NOT A WITCH HUNT
Dr. Sewell has omitted the fact that Armitage had only revealed his role in the Plame affair to the FBI 10 days prior to Libby's first interview with the same entity. The FBI crimianl investigation, under the direction of John Ashcroft, was ongoing when the contradictions between Libby and other witnesses became evident. We are not talking about a years long fishing expidition.

Contrary to Dr. Sewell's article, it was not just "some reporters" who contradicted Libby, it was also WH and CIA officials, nine in all. Also, while their accounts contradicted each other's, and showed memory lapses, they all agreed in their direct contraction of Libby's testimony.

Unfortunately, this case has far too politicized by both liberals and conservatives. I do not believe the leak law, which was the original focus of the investigation, was broken. But I also believe that making false and misleading statements to the FBI in the course of a criminal investigation is far from a "non-crime" as Sewell and many others have stated.

In closing, this trial was not about sinister WH machinations, Rove, Clinton, OJ, WMDs, the Wilsons, etc...It was about the choices of one man.

Leftinistra
Armies of the Liberals built on the Philosophy of the Stupid.

Ooops
Er..amaze. Jeez...I'm writing like a mouth-breathing rightard.

Fitzgerald
If all is as written in your article why isn't Fitzgerald investigated? How can a man waste all that time and money without someone doing a psychological profile to determine his competence for his position? Is fame and glory more important that truth? Changing government into a "soap opera"--Art

Barabbaberry
So libby should go to jail because Bill pardoned some one? Wow that is fascinating, did you come up with that all by yourself? People like you should be put in small rooms and drugged because you are a danger to your self.

John Edwards is a dirt bag trial lawer but he is your hero. What about Bill, was he not the one who gave the pardon?
Do you people have any consistancy? or just *&&^ for brains.

Kimberly
WOW !!!!
You about as sharp as baloon. You can believe non-sense because of your belief and hatred. How many people on the stand had memory lapses. How many stories of the events contradicted the one that got scooter convicted.
If Rove is so guilty of not commiting a crime why don't the dems go after him? Because it did not happen. Typical liberal lala land. You say radical things not knowing what you are talking about, or having evidence to support it, then shut your eyes and ears to any rational information that contradicts you position.

The basic philospohy of the left is as follows.
"It is the squeeky wheel that gets the grease, so squeek" "People only believe 30% of what they hear so lets feed them 100% B.S." "if you say anything loud enough and long enough not matter what it is people will start to beleive it"

The part you get wrong is This is America. We are still lovers of Liberty and that binds us together as seekers of justice. Granted the wheel may get greased but soon or later, if it keeps squeeking, it will get replaced.

People will get sick of hearing non rational propoganda and see the lefty loonies as they are. Your statement about Rove is equivilant to me saying Bill Clinton is was paid off the Bin Laden, and told not to interfer with Al Queda. That is why he had to lie about how he accumulated 10 X more money in on year of his presidency than all the years of his prior.

Before you respond to this take 10 min and think about all the left's claims about Bush that have just fizzled out. Remember all the claims about Iraq war. All the stupid, unfounded remarks that are allowed to pass through the lips of liberals and go unchecked, unsupported and un challanged. Why is he not impeached yet? He is an international criminal. I would be embarrassed to be called a Liberal. I am at times embarressed for my people on my side and try to correct them and educate them where I disagree. Something that does not get done on the left.

Forettable Valerie Plame
Valerie Plame was no more a "covert" agent than I am. Scooter Libby forgot about one or two coversations dealing with this silliness because the whole thing was so trivial - he had more pressing issues demanding his attention. Valerie Plame is just another low-level paper pusher killing time in a government welfare job. Most civil servants (especially women) do little more than drink coffee, gossip, ensure their annual leave (and sick leave) are properly accounted for and constantly search for some reason to travel at government expense. You could "down-size" about 50% of the civil service/contractor workforce and never miss a beat. I'll be glad when these two flame out and are not heard of again - what acouple of jerks.

Libby
Well, if you wanna stop this crap, maybe do what I do and paper your reps. Here's mine to my senators:

Senator,
I spent 20 years in the service of my country, yet since the 1990s I have really come to question our leadership. Yesterday after the Libby conviction by yet another "OJ" jury that was shopped for, I got sick to my stomach. Where are the checks on the "civil servants" in Washington? Do any of you understand that you work for us, and the people are not as stupid as you think? Yet we have to sit and watch as Hillary is allowed to ruin the lives of the WH Travel Office staff, while elected to nothing I might add, and now is lauded almost as the Second Coming; Alcee Hastings has in his hands the welfare of many in our population; William Jefferson has $90,000 in MARKED bills and the case can't seem to get off the ground; Democrat land deals, stock deals, DWI and hitting street barriers, vehicular homicide in MA, men cruising public restrooms a la George Michael; the bodies are everywhere from the previous administration...I could go on. Yet any time it's a person of my party, it's almost a lynch mob from the media and the Democrats. Even with all the legal mumbo-jumbo, Washington seems to get THAT done before the sun goes down. There are growing numbers of us out here totally disillusioned by many of you. Everyone up there sits on their hands, makes no statement, while a man is destroyed for revealing what the prosecutor knew early on was not a crime?
So, I have to wonder what you''ll think when they come for you. This has been going on since I can remember. I'll wager there's not a one of us who could withstand a badgering, detailed interrogation of his meetings and conversations, and with whom, for the last two weeks much less months, without misstating something or other. Only two types could possibly withstand that...a child and an idiot savant, since their responses are automatic and totally naive to consequences. So, when the Leninists are successful enough to totally quash any opposition to their noble right to rule and come for you because you disagree with them, don't whine to me...take it like an adult.

Robin
"Lefties aren't the enemy ya know; they are Americans too. Save the venom for Osama."

That attitude has destroyed this country. The Left is THE enemy, Osama and his ilk are merely troublesome. They all deserve the same fate, of course, but it is far more important to crush the Left - they have the capacity and will to cause far greater devastation is the pursuit of their utopian dream that does Osama or any other Islamicist.

Robin - Libby = Clinton?
Robin,

You seem to believe that Libby lied in the same way that Clinton lied? Really? A minor detail about a nothing story 3 years ago compared to a woman giving you oral pleasure? Seriously, that is BS and you know it! Clinton knew that he had "sexual relations" with Lewinsky and lied about it when being specifically questioned. Libby says he didn't remember the details about Plame and the only "evidence" to the contrary is Tim Russert's recall of the events.

Is it possible that Clinton forgot about "sexual relations" with Lewinsky? Not at all. Is is possible that Libby forgot about some minor detail in a minor story? Yes.

Kimberly
Like every single last one of your fellow Moonbats, you mistake assertions for facts. Simply asserting, over and over, in increasingly strident tones, that KARL ROVE DID IT! HE DID IT! HE'S THE ONE!... does not make it true. It is alternately infuriating and hilarious to observe the way Liberals can so consistently and faithfully mislead themselves. Ever heard the expression, "Don't p*ss down my back and tell me it's raining"? A Liberal will lie there and p*ss all over themselves, then blame Global Warming for the storm! I apologize for the language--though perhaps if I threw around a few F-bombs I could be a blogger for John Edwards... Returning to the point, there is absolutely nothing that anyone, anywhere, could say that would change your mind about anything, anytime. Had Libby been acquitted, you would still be screaming ROVE DID IT! IT WAS ROVE! Had Hillary Clinton herself gone live on CNN to announce that it was she who "outed" Valerie Plame, because they once wore the same dress to a NARAL fundraiser, you would STILL cry from the rooftops ROVE LIED! HE'S A LIAR! LIAR, LIAR, LIAR! Oh well, it's not like we take you seriously...

Kimberly sharp-minded? LMAO!
Kimberly is about as dull of mind as they come. Her inability to be even partially unbiased about any subject is astounding. Many of the people here actually believe she is a Townhall Mole that posts things to get everybody worked-up and generate more posts. We think this because after reading her non-sense, you cannot imagine anybody being so niave and just plain stupid.

"Scooter" Libby
Mr. Sowell,
I have read and printed about 10-15 columns re: Mr. Libby. Yours is by far, the most easily explained and understood. If he is not pardoned by President Bush and quickly, my hope for this country is vanishing fast. Where is the justice?

Life is Unfair
buzzkat writes: Friday, March, 09, 2007 9:51 AM
So this really is the kind of society you want us to live in, where anyone can be persecuted by an out of control government? This used to be the Soviet Union not too long ago, if you recall. Sadly, an increasing number of Americans just like you are willing to give up the liberties and freedoms bestowed on us by the Founding Fathers.

Hello, that is the society we live in. Ask any gay american if an out of control government is a factor in their lives. Ask those 2 border patrol agents they just threw in jail if our government is out of control. I am not willing to give up my liberties and freedoms..I served in the military 10 years. This is the land of the free, not the land of the fair. The MSM is anxious to jump on any politican of any party for any darn thing that pops up. The whole thing is a big game with lobbists, politicans, strategists, consultants, reporters, bloggers, and talking heads...they feed off each other and they all profit in money and power and it has just become a big peeing contest. The American people are pawns/game pieces. That is the reality of our shared world. Scooter got very careful deliberation by the jury and was found guilty of lying. Also, fitzgerald did know about Armatige but he can't really know if Armitige was the first leaker until he talks to all parties can he? This wasn't just one charge of lying, but 5; he was found guilty of 4. He chose to fall on his sword for the team; he chose loyalty. He chose the risk of jail. Why don't you respect the choice he made? Why should he not serve time for the crime? Clinton was impeached for perjury. Many democrats felt about that situation like repubs feel about this one. Both sides are breathing fire and no one is allowed to give the other a break out of fear of appearing weak....and around we go.

"lefties aren't the enemy ya know; they are Americans too. Save the venom for Osama. "

'Yes, why don't you? Tell it to your fellow Leftists. America and the President are not the enemy.'

Not all lefties are like that any more than all conservatives are cold and mean. I try to represent just me, not a whole group.

Grteatest tragedy
As Dr. Sowell points out, perhaps the most long-lasting effect of these political lynchings is the creation of an environment wherein no decent man or woman would choose to give government service -- no matter how badly their talents were needed by the nation -- because few people these days leave Washington with their honor and reputation intact.

Kimberly
It doesn't matter what Plame's position was. The law protects COVERT agents, which, by definition, anyone working in the CIA OFFICES is not. If you go into the CIA office as an employee, you are by no possible definition covert.


Kimberly
Assuming you have a sharp mind, please detail for me everything you did on Oct 12, 2003. In detail.

Can't? Why not? Aren't you sharp minded?

You see, it is easy to say in the abstract he should recall every detail about some matter that seemed trivial at the time (several years before, as well), but when I ask you to recall in great detail events of years ago, I doubt you do any better.

In addition, the evidence against him is that Tim Russert remembers differently. Excuse me if I missed the memo, but who decalred Tim Russert's memory the standard of truth? And why did the judge not allow evidence of Russert's fallibility?

Lessons Learned
"Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."

As an old boss of mine once said, "Never pass up an opportunity to keep your mouth shut."

solidsurface70
THANK YOU!
"I like Val Kilmer's, Doc Holiday line,'I'll be your huckleberry'"
I've had that stupid line going thru my head for days and I couldn't figure out where it came from (or what it meant). My wife looked at me like I was crazy when I asked her. Thank you for helping me with a reality check. I'm still relatively sane.

Redhead
That is what I keep wondering too. Why is someone not investigating him for deliberate entrapment?

"The Trial"
Franz Kafka's frightening vision in his book, "The Trial," grows ever closer.

Entrapment
If Fitzgerald knew of Armitage before he interviewed Libby, isn't his omission entrapment?

Scooter
It is a sad state of affairs when a man receives a felony conviction because he cannot remember something that he did not do. The radical left has got to be brought under control.

Papajohn
I had to laugh because you beat me to the point! I noticed that too! I think Fitzgerald should be prosecuted for wasting a whole lot of time and taxpayer dollars but then again we would have to prosecute the entire government.

Comparisons to Ken Starr
Yes, Ken Starr was originally assigned the responsibility to investigate Whitewater. However, during his investigation he discovered Paula Jones and ultimately expanded the investigation to include this case and the president's perjury before the grand jury. The important thing to remember is that Ken Starr did not simply expand his scope to include the Paula Jones case. He reported the issue to Janet Reno who separately authorized him to expand his scope to include this investigation.

My primary concern beyond the obvious concern for Mr. Libby and his family is that I, as a taxpayer, funded a three year effort over what everyone seems to concede was a non-crime and where the source of the information regarding the identity of Valerie Plame was already known. I would consider the continuation of this investigation beyond the determination that no crime had been committed as both a travesty of justice and malfeasance by the special prosecutor.

The most egregious thing
... in my mind is that Fitzgerald created Libby's "crime" AFTER he already knew that Armitage had told Novak who Valerie Plame was, and knew that passing this information on was not a crime.

Fitzgerald's investigation should have stopped there. If special prosecutors were accountable to anyone, as even guys like the unspeakable Nifong are, his investigation would have stopped before he even got to deposing Scooter Libby.

Fitzgerald HAD NO CHARTER to pursue anyone at all, once he knew the alleged crime he was appointed to investigate had not occurred. But he went ahead and pursued White House appointees anyway, now looking for something ELSE, something he wasn't appointed to find.

Special prosecutors have got to go. They are the very antithesis of the rule of law.


Imperial lawyers
Spitzer, Nifong, Fitzgerald, Earle... So many lawyers seem to be bent upon ignoring the law and the concept of justice to get the results they want. Disturbing.

So Libby ...
got Nifonged!

funny...
I find it highly amusing that the left never decides to skewer Drs. Sowell and Walter E. Williams, nor Krauthammer. Perhaps like bringing a pea shooter to a gunfight?

Excellent analysis as always Dr. Sowell. Clear, concise and all but irrefutable.

Look at the bright side...
As soon as a Democrat -- say, Hillary Klinton -- gets elected, a "special prosecutor" will be appointed to investigate...well...whatever the heck he wants for as long as he wants. Since NOBODY is 100% infallible, we can expect to see SOEMONE finally make a mistake, and taking precedence from this BS, it doesn't matter how minor the mistake is. Off with their heads!

The "special prosecutor" will become the new weapon of choice for destroying politicians. Why have Lee Harvey Osawalds around when you can have Patrick Fitzgerald -- a person accountable to NOBODY, totally exempt from any and all laws pertaining to harrassment or abuse of power -- who is able to investigate anything or nothing in search of someone or something he can turn into ammunition.

No, as I said yesterday, the ONLY criminal in this case is, IN FACT, Fitzgerald himself. He is, IN FACT, guilty of said harrassment and abuse of power. He admitted, for the entire world to hear, that his job was NOT to investigate any so-called "leaking", but instead his job was to persue a political witch hunt.

The special prosecutor law ought to either be repealed, or have limitations placed on it such that the prosecutor cannot persue anything outside of exactly what he was hired to persue. This would have avoided the whole waste of purjery and obstruction of justice with both Clinton and Libby (recall that Ken Starr was hired to investigate Whitewater, which, by the way, he got at least 11 convitions for).

Robin
Robin wrote:

"I don't see how the left is to blame."

As has been pointed out all over this and other web sites, the MSM (i.e. the Left's main watch/attack dogs) propagated the story, faithfully serving to fortify anti-Bush conspiracy theories, Fitzgerald's self-serving omissions, and twisted version of Libby's involvement in the case. It was all to denigrate the president and his co-workers. That's the Left's main pathway to power.

You also had high-profile Democrats calling for someone's head, anyone's head, believing as they do that the Bush administration was a bunch of lying dictators. That was clear from Harry Reid's comments after the verdict came in, as he remarked that someone had at last been punished for Bush's alleged lies and mass deception of the public. Libby's head will do for now...


-- Milo

Fitzgeral may hope
His name will be "written down in glory", but in truth it will be written down in infamy and used in future law as an example of abuse of power.

Barrababerry
I was not aware that Libby had any role in the Mark Rich fiasco. However, what you seem to be suggesting is that any lawyer who represents someone of dubious character and works to the best of his ability in that client's interest should be railroaded and sent to prison as some sort of karmic retribution. I know we alll dislike lawyers, but isn't that a bit harsh?

Robin
"If Scooter's memory was that faulty then he should learn to tape or record his day for his secretary to make notes of. Most of us average folks know that along with Scooter we'd all be in jail too. "


So this really is the kind of society you want us to live in, where anyone can be persecuted by an out of control government? This used to be the Soviet Union not too long ago, if you recall. Sadly, an increasing number of Americans just like you are willing to give up the liberties and freedoms bestowed on us by the Founding Fathers.

"Lefties aren't the enemy ya know; they are Americans too. Save the venom for Osama. "


Yes, why don't you? Tell it to your fellow Leftists. America and the President are not the enemy.

Libby vs. Berger
I'm trying to understand it all. Did Ashcroft appoint a special prosecutor on the Plame issue in order to avoid media criticism of the Administration? And what explains the lenient sentencing of Sandy Berger for his theft and destruction of classified national security documents? The lopsided treatment of these two cases by the MSM is sad but so predictable as to be beneath comment. But the workings of the Justice Department are a puzzle to me. Help, anyone?

Ask Yourself
AS Charles Krauthammer asks in his column: When did you first hear the name of Joe Wilson or Valerie Plame?

Don't remember? You are as guilty as Libby, then... Aren't you?

Why is Fitzgerald not liable
For his lies of omission? The fact he carried on knowing he was pursuing a case based on hiding true facts himself, should make him culpable. If he himself is not guilty of breaking the law, then it seems to me American law has become a game of who can get away with the most without accountability.

Robin
Scooter should tape his conversations? Didn't they prosecute Linda Tripp for that? If he talked to anyone in Maryland, he would be committing a felony by doing so.

Nice try though.

By the way, to whom did you speak on Nov 2, 2002? In order of conversations held, word for word?

Can't tell me? Then guess you can go to jail for 25 years as well.

I don't see...
...how the left is to blame. The CIA asked for the investigation. Ashcroft is no lefty. Fitzgerald is politically neutral. Plame was no longer covert [one year past the 5 year rule for disclosure] but she still did work in the Counterpolifieration section and the fact that she used to be covert still endangers others she used to work with and denies her the chance to be covert again. If Scooter's memory was that faulty then he should learn to tape or record his day for his secretary to make notes of. Most of us average folks know that along with Scooter we'd all be in jail too. It may not seem 'fair' but the jury has spoken. There are a lot of people in jail that didn't do it..no one is crying for them..so you won't find much sympathy from regular working folks. Plenty of us have been victims of office politics and Scooter choose the route and therefore the consequences. Is one's job more important than one's family? I feel sorry for his family because he chose his job over them. I just don't see how 'lefties' did anything but wish Scooter would turn on Cheney. Lefties aren't the enemy ya know; they are Americans too. Save the venom for Osama.

Can you say cha-ching?
While the investigation was ongoing, Fitzpatrick and friends were cashing fat paychecks without having to produce anything tangible in the arena of results. The longer the probe went on, the more paychecks Fitz & staff cashed. It's called job security.

Leftists and justice
Leftists always imagine that they are on the side of justice, that it is Republicans who will railroad innocent people off to jail. But the left has done the same thing (as Gerald Amirault can testify), and it is now trying to do the same thing for the Duke lacrosse team.

They then scream when we refuse to have anything to do with international criminal courts that are run by leftists.

Last Post
And since I spent yesteday wasting my time arguing with religiouslib on Saunders' column, I am not posting another word on Libby. The left will not listen to facts and I am giving up on trying to make them see reason.

Love for the CIA
The left couldn't stand the CIA until the Plame affair. Suddenly they have all become intelligence "hawks" and demand the prosecution of anyone who leaks intelligence. Funny, they didn't feel that way about the "Pentagon Papers" and about a dozen other left wing leaks over the years...

Normal?
It seems common that battle plans often employ and expect the loss of a certain amount of "cannon fodder". I just haven't figured out how this applies to Martha Stewart. I like Val Kilmer's, Doc Holiday line,"I'll be your huckleberry".

Payback for the Mark Rich pardon
It WAS payback, it was payback for libby getting a pardon from bill clinton for his friend Mark Rich. Fitzgerald was one of a team of lawyers pursuing and building a case against Rich. Libby was a lawyer that blew that boat out of the water by getting Rich the pardon. Rich was guilty of massive tax evasion and Libby knew it. Why should anyone feel that he isn't getting anything but his just deserts. Listen, JUSTICE didn't mean anything to libby then, he has no business complaining about injustice now.

Travesty of justice
Dr Sowell is so right, as usual. What a shame also that mr Ashcroft is the one who appointed this latter-day Torquemada. Ann Coulter's latest column on this fiasco pointed out that we should also be angry about how Republicans take this gutter politics by rolling over and asking for more, and never fighting back against the far worse Dem crimes.

Indeed, we are in big trouble!!
The se called "leaders" in Washington cannot even defend this fiasco from happening. If Bush and his circle cannot even defend Libby from the very beginning, how can we expect them to protect the US from far bigger and deadly enemies?

To expect the liberal democrats to protect the US from enemies is an oxymoron.

Well laid out Dr. Sowell
I think yours is the most concise and clear explanation I've read of this case. It illustrates the complete corruption and ethical disregard for our judicial system. To me it doesn't matter if the victim was Democrat or Republican. This was no more than a Kangaroo Court. If this is what our so called leaders have come down to. How can we believe anything they do or say. Let alone be responsible for world decisions. We are in big trouble folks!

The Left will take...
... whatever they can get.

The impeachment of Bush and the death of Cheney didn't work out, but hey, this is better than nothing.

This case was a non-issue from the beginning. The left are pretty much just a bunch of self-righteous, self-important, antiestablishmentarian, messianic brats, made all the more dangerous by the fact that the achievement of their goals far outweighs their regard for ethics. Malcolm X's "by any means necessary" is surely among their highest tenets (although I don't see them stopping at what's necessary).

If they can't get rid of the Bush administration forthwith, then they'll settle for its besmirchment -- even if they have to fabricate issues out of thin air. Extrapolation of a failure to remember trivia into criminality, imaginary connections between the Bush and bin Laden families, fake documents that purport to denigrate the president's military service -- it's all good, since calumny of the Right is really the only way to make their guys/gals look halfway palatable. These people are arrogant scum, pure and simple.

This whole saga has been disgraceful, and my heart goes out to Mr. Libby and his family.


-- Milo
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