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Thursday, July 20, 2006
Thomas Sowell :: Townhall.com Columnist
Saving what from whom?
by Thomas Sowell
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When conservationists talk about "saving" this and "protecting" that, a logical question might be: Saving it from whom? Protecting it from whom? And why should the government force what you want on someone else who obviously wants something different, or there would not be an issue in the first place?

After all, the Constitution says that all citizens are entitled to the "equal protection of the laws."

Such questions almost never get asked. Nor do evidence or logic play much of a role in most conservation issues. Instead, we hear rhapsodies about "open space," sneers at "urban sprawl" and self-congratulatory phrases like "smart growth."

In short, rhetoric has long since replaced reasons on this as on so many other issues.

The latest conservation crusade has been announced in the San Francisco Bay area -- putting an additional one million acres aside as "open space."

According to an official of the Peninsula Open Space Trust, the next couple of decades represent "the last chance" to "save" these million acres. The fashionable phrase is: "Once it's paved, it can't be saved."

Just to introduce a few facts into all these rhetorical flourishes, there are four and a half million acres of land in the San Francisco Bay Area. Less than one-sixth of this land has been developed. So we are not talking saving the last few patches of greenery from being paved over.

More than a million acres are already legally off-limits to development while less than three-quarters of a million acres are actually developed.

What then is the urgency about making another million acres of land legally off-limits to building anything? Because otherwise, more people will move into the area over time and, since they don't want to live outdoors, they will want to have housing.

That bothers the conservationists, who prefer trees to houses.

If they can't cut these other people off at the pass by making it illegal to build anything on an additional million acres, they can at least force those people to live in the kinds of housing that conservationists want to restrict them to, rather than the kinds of housing that these people prefer for themselves.

That's called "smart growth." What is smart about it is another question.

An international study of 26 urban areas with "severely unaffordable" housing found 23 of those 26 subject to strong "smart growth" policies. What is "smart" about causing skyrocketing housing prices by making it illegal to build anything on vast amounts of land?

It is smart if you already own a home and the astronomical costs of buying or renting are going to have to be paid by other people who move into the area. It may be especially smart if restrictions on building cause the value of the home you already own to go up by leaps and bounds.

The San Francisco Bay area already has housing prices about three times the national average. The heavy burden that this places on people is reflected in the fact that two-thirds of the purchases of homes last year were financed with risky "interest-only" loans.

That means that the mortgage payments for the first few years do not reduce the amount owed by one cent. Moreover, since these are usually adjustable-rate mortgages, the payments can shoot up as the Federal Reserve raises interest rates.

The connection between severe restrictions on building and skyrocketing housing prices can be seen from evidence around the country and around the world, wherever people have succumbed to rhetoric about "smart growth" and sneers at "urban sprawl."

Severe restrictions on building began in the Bay Area back in the 1970s. At the beginning of that decade, housing in this area was as affordable as in other parts of the country.

A median income family in the Bay Area could pay off the mortgage on a median-priced house in just 13 years, using just one-fourth of their income. A decade later, it took 40 percent of their income to pay off the mortgage in 30 years. Today it requires 50 percent. Very "smart."

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There's nothing surprising here....
...this is what happens when leftist run the show. This coming from a city that uses tax money for government employees' sex changes.

The same outrageous prices in New York with rent control.

The same condition will result with New Orleans with the "New Age" requirements they are expected to reach with rebuilding.


BIGbelly...
...don't forget Earth First's "Butterfly" who sat in the tree "Luna" for 728 days for the record for the longest "tree sit." She was trying to save it from Georgia Pacific.

Of course, after climbing down she wrote a BOOK about her experience.

Liberals love the cities
Most big cities generally swing left during elections, at least that has been my observation. So let them have them. All sane people should sell their homes for the highest price they can garner and spilt for friendlier climes.

Meanwhile, the tree huggers can celebrate alone in their societeal bubbles of Eutopia with their own kind, while rational people go about the business of running a country that encompasses all economic classes.

With the imigration of enviro-nazis (mostly from California) to Colorado, it took less than eight years (in Denver & Lakewood) for rent to increase by 100%+ as did the value of homes (though the quality of the homes doesn't match the cost).

Environmentalism has become a religion
I think these folks truly believe in paradise on earth, and feel they are entitled to live in it. Someone else must be forced to make that paradise a reality, no matter the sacrifices, and no sacrifice is too great for others to make.
There is always a good reason why the imposers themselves cannot do any of the sacrificing, just other people. That is true whether they want "open spaces" at someone elses expense or thousands of wolves in ranch country so they can "hear them howl".

One quick additional point --
The people pushing this "land-use" crap are generally those who've already got theirs -- and love the idea of prices continuing to increase for their own selfish reasons. Principle? Ha! So much for altruism, 'ay?
But the basic point -- well stated. Dr. Sowell again nailed it.

Do tree huggers really mean it
Anyone know how many tree huggers/environmentalist weenies helped to fight the wildfires around the west. I would bet they were nowhere to be seen while billions of trees are destroyed. I'll also bet the big, strong men who put their lives on the line to really "save trees" probably are not liberal. Thanks to the firefighters that they "willing and able" to do what it takes. And thank God for our "big and strong" military who protect us. I'll take "big and strong" everytime.

Tree hugging
Forest fires are necessary to clear out the old debris and make way for new growth. We conservative "tree huggers" understand that. I agree that environmental whackos don't want any fires, and they are wrong. If they don't allow the natural burns then they get those massive wildfires that destroy too much.

I don't pretend to wish for a "paradise on earth" but if we lose our connection with the earth then we have lost a big part of our soul. If we think we can insulate ourselves from the earth by spending time in malls and not understanding that we have to kill something whenever we eat then we are lost. When you know that you are taking a life in order to continue to live then you feel a moral responsibility to do something with the life you have out of respect for those you are taking.

If you take the time to go for a hike in the mountains or by a stream and slow down enough to observe the creatures who are sharing their environment with you I believe you will find yourself become more peaceful with yourself. That connection with the earth is your birthright. Don't squander it.

Typical conservatives..
The conservationists provide a balance for money grubbing developers that are not in the least interested in the impact of their profit making ventures. Around the Research Triangle here in NC and the surrounding counties the schools are going year round to try and keep up. The only folks building houses for less than $100,000 is Habitat for Humanity. All these politicians and self proclaimed 'elite' folks look at this as a big game to be played. There is no middle road any more. Ethics is a thing of the past. One consults with one's lawyer about how to get what one wants; to see how far one can stretch the law. I clean these big ass houses for a living. Yes, I do the job that Amercians won't do. I'm white, college educated, 10 year Army veteran..officer. Everyday I watch folks getting uglier and meaner at either end of the spectrum. It is such a hope killer for me.

old joke
As the old joke says:

What's the difference between a conservationist and a developer?

The conservationist built his house LAST year.

Robin, what you arer saying...
Is that some people, whether you like them or not, are willing to put there money where there heart is and buy property to use as they see fit. The problem with liberal conservationists as opposed to conservative conservationists, is that they think somebody else should pay to buy and preserve the land for them to use. I would be supportive of liberal conservationists if they would take all the money they get from people and put it to use buying land rather than lobbying legislators to make the rest of us pay to protect it. The other issue I have with liberal conservationists and many other people as well, is the lack of perspective. There is so much undeveloped land in America and in the world that a lot of development isn't going to destroy nature. Have you ever flown over the country and looked out the window? It is a much different picture than what you get driving along the highway. Development tends to cluster along highways. And even along highways, there are often long stretches through remote and relatively undeveloped and uninhabited areas.

T.S. ... Always saying what we think!
Thank You Dr. Sowell! Another home run piece by someone who uses REASON TO LOGICALLY CONTEMPLATE THE FACTS of a given situation.

Logic based on facts and reasoning about reality (as oppossed to hypotheticals) is what makes us capitalists and conservatives different from the socialists and fascists (environmentalism is the medium upon which the philosophy of socialism [which leads to fascism] has (and continues) travelled upon since the 1970's (f.y.i.: it used to be Jim Crow, but we Republicans ended that with the Civil Rights Act). Socialists can't use reason because they would reveal to everyone what the true nature of their quest for power is: to compel the rest of us (once they assume legislative/executive/judicial/administrative power at any level, they weld the power of force, that, by nature, government holds as a monopoly) to NOT ACT IN OUR OWN INTERESTS (based on our pursuit of happiness), but in their interest, and the example that Dr. Sowell gives here is a perfect example of that. The elite environmentalists have assumed an overwhelming majority of the above listed government positions in the geographical area in question and have used the government's monopolistic power of force to compel the rest of us not to move to the San Francisco area (by driving up the price of land and housing by reducing the amount of land and housing that could be potentially purchased, as Dr. Sowell eloquently articulated it).
In the long term, it is decisions like these, that actually lead to "the problems", that environmentalists gain power in government in order to "fix." For example, by driving up the cost of living in the S.F. Bay area, they forced everyone else to move 2 and 3 hours away, causing some other short term problems, like driving up the cost of gas in the area, thus, forcing the non-elites to spend more money on transportation (and less on their mortgage). Isn't the consumption of fossil fuels one of the things that the environmentalist fascists say contributes to global warming? But, it's not their decisions, like the one that Dr. Sowell writes about, that contribute to
"these problems," but it's the reaction of everyone else (to the decisions of the elitists in power) that really makes the environmetalists mad. All of their decisions in life are made based on how they "feel" about something, and when they hold power in government, they are going to "fix" whatever it is that they "feel" bad about, and to hell with those Right-Wing Fundamental values of the Right to Property, the Right to Life, the Pursuit of Happiness, Individual Rights, Individual Responsibility, or any of the rest of the ideas of our "EVIL" founding fathers.

Federal Land Swap
In California, 48% of all land is Federally owned. In addition, the state of California has claimed an additional 12%. That collectively leaves only 40% of the land available for private ownership excluding local parks and public work. If one further excludes land that physically is unsuitable to be built on, conservatively estimated at 20% (too near earthquake fault lines, areas of unstable soil conditions, etc.), that leaves roughly 32% of the land mass for housing, farming, offices, stores, et. al.

After further subtracting from this an unknown amount of semi-public land owned by school districts, water districts, and publically regulated utilities, (SDG&E is the largest land owner in San Diego Co.), etc., is it any wonder that there’s “crowding” on what land is left?

An idea: The federal government owns less than 2% of the land in states East of the Mississippi River. If the government were to begin selling off land in the West, to purchase more public land in the East, we could perhaps begin to "un-dense" some of our Western urban areas.

Start with New Orleans.

Instead of FEMA paying hundreds of billions of tax dollars to rebuild a city and its infrastructure BELOW SEA LEVEL, use funds gained by selling land in the West to purchase this property; permitting the sea to reclaim land that’s known to be sinking anyway and give the people of the great state of Louisiana there first million acre National Wildlife Sanctuary.

Anytime a area is declared a national disaster area, have the government condemn the land, buy it, and make it into a national park, wildlife refuge, or simply more BLM land. Selling land in the West to purchase unstable land in the East seems to assist in solving two problems.

"smart" development
When thinking about why people do things that seem counterproductive, it pays to look at whether they're benefiting in some way from what they do.

These communities that are setting land aside, driving up prices, are a good example. They may have their reasons, even if those reasons aren't the ones they give.

Higher home prices do benefit homeowners who are already ensconced. High entry prices serve to exclude people who are likely to have children, and children require schooling, which means taxes. High entry prices restrict a city's population to upscale types who while they might be criminals of the Ken Lay ilk, aren't likely to be the rough sort.

These communities aren't shouldering their civic duties. They're saving themselves the trouble and fobbing off the work of building society on others. That's self serving, but it's not outright irrational. What is irrational is to think that there's anything liberal or altruistic in what they do.

They have the right idea
Much as I can't stand tree huggers, in the end, the policies that San Fran is pursuing are designed to protect the homes and property values of the homeowners, regardless of whatever rhetoric they use to justify them.

Let's think of it this way. What was going on in the 1970's that prompted San Fran to pass such open space laws? Mass immigration. Thanks to the brilliance of our political leaders and the 1965 amnesty, millions of poor aliens began flooding California. Something needed to be done about this and different areas approached the problem differently.

Southern California was more laissez faire and is now completely overrun. Northern California went green and effectively kept a big chunk of those aliens out. Southern California has physical gated communities and Northern Californis, through regs, have virtual gated communities. Which do you think is better for white, middle-class families worried about their housing, schools and neighborhoods?

Yes, these people are hypocrites. So what? At least they recognize that keeping out the riff-raff is a legitimate form of government action, unlike our Republican president who is busy trying to Hispanicize America. Thus, "environmental elites" are elected to office to solve problems that Republicans refuse to solve. Their hypocrisy is the result of our incredibly dishonest liberal society and its pandering to minorities. They are just trying to preserve and enhance what they have.




They have the right idea
Much as I can't stand tree huggers, in the end, the policies that San Fran is pursuing are designed to protect the homes and property values of the homeowners, regardless of whatever rhetoric they use to justify them.

Let's think of it this way. What was going on in the 1970's that prompted San Fran to pass such open space laws? Mass immigration. Thanks to the brilliance of our political leaders and the 1965 amnesty, millions of poor aliens began flooding California. Something needed to be done about this and different areas approached the problem differently.

Southern California was more laissez faire and is now completely overrun. Northern California went green and effectively kept a big chunk of those aliens out. Southern California has physical gated communities and Northern Californis, through regs, have virtual gated communities. Which do you think is better for white, middle-class families worried about their housing, schools and neighborhoods?

Yes, these people are hypocrites. So what? At least they recognize that keeping out the riff-raff is a legitimate form of government action, unlike our Republican president who is busy trying to Hispanicize America. Thus, "environmental elites" are elected to office to solve problems that Republicans refuse to solve. Their hypocrisy is the result of our incredibly dishonest liberal society and its pandering to minorities. They are just trying to preserve and enhance what they have.




Nevada?
TomBreyer writes:

Southern California was more laissez faire and is now completely overrun. Northern California went green and effectively kept a big chunk of those aliens out. Southern California has physical gated communities and Northern Californis, through regs, have virtual gated communities. Which do you think is better for white, middle-class families worried about their housing, schools and neighborhoods?

Tolkien loved trees and was conservative
Concerning your statement that "That bothers the conservationists, who prefer trees to houses," I'd like to point out that the great conservative intellectual J.R.R. Tolien loved trees as friends. His Treebeard and his "Ents" were testimony to this. They were the "shepards of the forrest" and took stewardship of God's Creation, as Adam was instructed.

Tolkien rejected the Ludditism of American hippies (as in your article), but I feel we need to remember that we are the Party that models society on Nature and Natural Law and Natural Rights. It is not the "environment" we protect but us.


Bogus Conservation
A friend of mine owns a home in Berkeley. She is fighting City Hall, unsuccessfully so far, because someone decided to create an "open space" trail across her property. In fact, the trail they are building will run five feet in front of her front door. Five feet! Right across her private property! Too bad she can't just sit on her porch with a shotgun.

The people who run San Francisco are idiots.

"smart growth"
I don't understand the advantage in skyrocketing housing prices. You have to live somewhere. If you like where you are living, then you get no advantage from higher housing values. It would only help if you wanted to move someplace less desirable.

But the real kicker, is where do these people think their children are going to be able to live? How does one obtain advantage by pushing a policy that will penalize one's own children?

Bay Area is not just San Francisco!
To all of you ripping on San Francisco... the open spaces Dr. Sowell is writing about are not in the city and county of San Francisco. And San Francisco (all 7x7 miles) is pretty much built-up already! (Okay, I know, Dr. Sowell wants The Presidio [a National Park] paved over for tract housing--seriously, he does.) But those open spaces are throughout the nine-county San Francisco "Bay Area". In fact, much of the property in those other parts of the Bay Area with all that open land are owned by... conservatives! Go figure!

Those of us who do live in the Bay Area (even the conservatives--maybe why they're here) appreciate the natural beauty we still have around us. The residents of Southern California (where I grew up) lost most of that decades ago. Believe me, we're not interested in looking like sprawling Orange County, filled with monster-sized shopping malls.

By the way, where is it that many conservative Southern California residents often vacation? In the liberal city of San Francisco and those rolling open spaces of Sonoma and Napa Valley Wine Country! Ironic, eh?

latrans, you got it wrong.
The blame for the massive wildfires we have these days can be laid directly on the shoulders of the tree-huggers. They have pushed their agenda for so long that a reasonable cleanup of dead and down trees is no longer allowed in the majority of our national forests. Because of their policies, and the wishy-washy politicians that listened to these stupid people, fuel is allowed to collect on the forest floor. When a fire gets started now, it turns into a massive burn instead of a "natural" clearing. Just look at the stats for the western states, that have huge tracts of government land, versus the eastern states, where much more of the forests are privately owned. They have far fewer incidences of major forest fires. Reasonable land use policies in the private sector have helped save their forests whereas the western states always lose hundreds of thousands of acres of forest due to huge fires every year. We need REASONABLE forest policies instead of the asinine policies of the loony left.

All of you poop-pooping the idea of "stupid development." Rio Rancho, NM is the fastest growing city in the country. I sold my house for 3 times what I paid for it. I now own 10 acres, with a house located on a lake. There might be 60 families located here, it is a very rural area. I paid cash for it. Let the San Frannutsos do what they want, who cares. If they can sell their home for enough, they can then afford to move to the real America and live in relative peace. The loonies can stay there, they deserve it.

Robin:
College educated and a 10 year veteran? And you clean houses for a living? You need to quit wasting the advantages you were given and get a life. Advantages that many of us never had. I didn't finish high school, nor go to college, I had to go to work to help my family. I recieved a GED while in boot camp, it was a requirement in the military at the time. As stated above, I own a nice piece of lake front property. I am 51 years old and semi-retired, I work when I want instead of having to do the nine to five crap. I got it because I worked hard and took advantage of the opportunities I did get. Bet your buns I am a capitalistic, money grubbing conservative. You could do it too if you would just quit your idealistic silliness and go for the golden ring. Many others have and they did not have the education or advantages given to you. Sounds to me like you are wasting your life instead of doing something with it.





Thank you, I'll stay in San Francisco!
Jerry's data is accurate but out of date. The Forest Service's policy used to be to put out every fire as quickly as possible, which did cause the problems Jerry mentioned. The Forest Service now does controlled burns and clears excess fuel to prevent those problems.

As far as the Eastern states having less forest fires, that has to do with weather patterns, not who owns the land. The Eastern states have more precipitation than the Western states, so the forests don't dry out and catch on fire like they do in the West.

As I mentioned, the "open spaces" are not in San Francisco! They're in the "Bay Area" and much of that land is actually owned by conservatives. But I'm glad Jerry and others think us San Franciscans deserve to live in one of the most beautiful and desired places in the entire world... fine with me!

By the way, they keep building up desirable areas (such as North County San Diego) and they just keep getting more and more expensive, not cheaper, as Dr. Sowell would like us to believe.

Gee, ya think the popularity of the beautiful San Francisco Bay Area might have something to do with its expensive housing? Hmm...



JO ANN, YOU MISSED THE POINT
Controlled burns are not the answer. Two of the largest fires in New Mexico history were started as controlled burns. The Los Alamos fire, near the Los Alamos Atomic Labs, burned over 41,000 acres, including over 200 homes were lost. The other happened in the Gila Wilderness, one of the most rural and pristene places in the country just this past week. Over 48,000 acres were been burned. That shows you how well the Forest Service does their job. Besides, what makes you think that a controlled burn of one or two hundred acres will do any good when there are millions of acres of forest with huge amounts of dead and down fuel in them.

The point I was trying to make is: If the USFS would allow wood cutters, artists, people that use wood to build furniture or whatever, into OUR national forests to collect dead and down timber, controlled burns would not be necessary. If a fire did get started, there would be much less destruction of forest land because there would be less fuel for the fire to feed on. Instead of listening to the neo-nazi tree hugging nuts, the USFS should be working with the people that know the land and enact sensible forest managment programs.

I know what I am talking about. I was born, raised, and have lived the majority of my life in northern New Mexico. Are you familiar with Taos, Angel Fire, Eagle Nest or Red River? I live in God's country lady and I do not want it to burn down because of stupid forest service policies.



I do get your point, Jerry!
Thank you for your response, Jerry. I do understand what you are saying!

I responded to two key issues that I addressed in my previous post. I understand that controlled burns are not completely the answer. Of course, forest fires are also part of nature and the closer we move into untouched nature, the more we become part of it...

At any rate, I do agree that we need sensible forest management programs. We may somewhat agree and somewhat disagree on what those programs should be; I'm happy to leave it at that. When you aren't throwing around the derogatory term "neo-nazi" or referring to me in a demeaning way as "lady", I respect your opinions and understand your issues.

My original point was responding to Dr. Sowell's article on San Francisco Bay Area open spaces. Many of the posts here incorrectly think San Francisco politics are in charge of this issue. In fact, many of our nine-counties in the Bay Area, where there are open spaces, are quite conservative!

By the way, I do know the places you mentioned in New Mexico and I agree with you that it is beautiful country. Enjoy the rest of your weekend, Jerry!
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