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Sunday, November 02, 2008
Terry Paulson :: Townhall.com Columnist
Democracies Die When Liberty Gives Way to Dependence
by Terry Paulson
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McCain has Joe the Plummer. Obama has Peggy Joseph. Interviewed after an Obama campaign event in Sarasota, Florida, Peggy emotionally summarized what it means to her for Barack Obama to be president: "It was the most memorable time of my life. It was a touching moment, because I never thought this day would happen. I won't have to worry about putting gas in my car. I won't have to worry about paying my mortgage. You know, if I, if I help him [Barack], he’s gonna help me!"

If that doesn’t send fears down your spine, ponder the words of the Scottish jurist and historian, Sir Alexander Fraser Tytler. Over 200 years ago, he provided a chilling observation on the fall of the Athenian Republic. America has been a beacon of liberty and hope for our citizens and the world for over 230 years. But Tytler warned of the natural rise and fall of every democracy:

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over a loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through this sequence; from bondage to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to great courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to complacency; from complacency to apathy; from apathy to dependence; from dependency back again into bondage."

Our next president will set America's course for the next decade. We’re running deficits in Washington and most of our major states. The growing costs for Medicare, employee pensions, and social security are out of control, and there's no political consensus or will to deal with these runaway entitlements. We vote to approve bonds that don’t raise taxes now but pass more debt on to future generations.

In America today, it's hard to win elections by talking about cutting government spending—saying "no" to anything or anyone at election time is a sure way of losing votes. As a result, too many Americans are becoming addicted to government saving them from their own failure to live within their means. Democrats play the enabler! Capitalizing on that addiction, Democrats promise more if Americans just give them full control in Washington.

Starting during President Johnson's term, our country tried spending our way to becoming a very compassionate country. Over three decades, our government invested 5.4 trillion dollars in welfare payments in our "War on Poverty." The investment would have been worth it, if it had worked, but it didn't eliminate poverty.

In fact, the results of this type of government-run compassion have been devastating, creating a debilitating dependence on the very programs that were designed to help. Ronald Reagan said it well: "Welfare's purpose should be to eliminate, as far as possible, the need for its own existence."

Compassion should be measured by how many people no longer need government programs instead of by how many are served by them. We need a safety net, not a hammock. As our first Republican President Abraham Lincoln said, "The worst thing you can do for those you love is the thing they could and should do for themselves."

We've gone from protecting the unfortunate to supporting the irresponsible. In fact, many liberal politicians seem to want to keep citizens dependent on government. They hate poverty so much that they reward it!

Unfortunately, whatever you reward you get more of! So if my response to your entry-level job is to raise your minimum wage beyond its market value, you're more likely to stay in that dead-end job. Why go to college or learn a new skill if you can get enough money settling for a job with minimum skills?

Republicans support economic tough love that challenges all citizens to better themselves. A free-market economy rewards achievement and not anything less. Is that mean-spirited? We loved our son enough to teach him early that in a competitive world you don’t get everything you want just because you want it. We showed him our love, but we also let him know that he would experience the consequences for his own choices. If he didn't save his money, he wouldn't have money to spend. If he got in trouble in school, he'd be accountable not excused.

In America, all citizens are guaranteed "the pursuit of happiness," not happiness given to them by a controlling government. Democrats would have you believe that every American is entitled to full healthcare, welfare, and high wages whether they've earned it or not. And, of course, who is supposed to pay for all these entitlements, those greedy, "wealthy" Americans who already pay most of the taxes! Will Rogers said it years ago, "I remember back when a liberal was someone who was generous with his own money."

Gerald Ford summed it up well, "A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have." Socialism is not new. It's failed wherever it has been tried. It won’t help you achieve your dreams; it will only punish and stifle your success! Obama believes you can't live the American Dream without taking your neighbor's money to give you another entitlement. That's not the American Dream; that's a nightmare.

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Terry Paulson, PhD is a psychologist, award-winning professional speaker, author of The Dinner: The Political Conversation Your Mother Told You Never to Have, and long-time columnist for the Ventura County Star.

 
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missing the point
I think the main reason most Obama backers are voting for him is that they are just fed up and looking for something completely opposite of what we had for the past 8yrs. The Bush admin so screwed things up, not just with our economy, but in the world's view of us. We are no longer a nation to look up to, such that 80% of the population outside of the US hopes Obama wins.

Mc Cain plans
Mc Cain knows nothing about his talking points and most he could not achieve if he really did. It is what it is only talk straight talk and talk only . His plans however are huge in power , McCain intends to by exectutive order separate the power of congress from control of the military and continue in force the Bush military regime with increasd action in Iraq Pakistan Afganistan and others ,the military is really all Mc Cain knows and at this time his only real plan that is the real danger to this nation.

Tomorrow!
This is it. If you are Republican...,JUST DO IT! Vote McCain/Palin. No more talking points ad infinitum/ad nauseum1 just VOTE!!!!!!


If you are voting for Barry Dunham...,as ACORN espouses, vote early,vote often you NITWITS!!!!!

Obamism…

Obama surely can “talk the talk”, but fails to “walk the walk”. Obama reminds me of others throughout history, with their ability to so quietly and enchantingly say one thing, mean and do another; and people will shake their heads in approval of the very things they oppose. What is amazing is they believe they have agreed with him. What is very scary is that history has also proven repeatedly; that those willing to agree without questioning are the first to die by the millions.

It seems that every national election we have had in the last several decades has been described as the most important election in the history of America. And of course, they've all been important, but coming right down to it, I sincerely believe that the '08 election could well be what decides whether America maintains its place in the world as the most powerful, progressive and benevolent nation history has ever known. Or whether we will be relegated to a back seat in a world community capable of producing economic giants in a few short years.

This political season is very disturbing; Barack Hussein Obama is a closet Socialist/Marxist and looks forward to his coming out party on Nov. 4. If this country decides to elect Obama that will be the being of the end of America as we know it. You can also be sure that he will be tested early and often. The US and the World will see a great depression worse than what they experienced during the 1930’s. Your vote does count and you should be voting for the candidate that best reflect your views of what makes this country great and so unique, remembering that this uniqueness is truly a reflection of its people and what they stand for.

It is no political secret that “Taking from Peter and giving to Paul; you will always get Paul’s vote”. We owe it not just too ourselves; but our kids and their kids, past and future generations of Americans. I urge you to exercise your right to V-O-T-E…else, you have no right to complain!


JamesB
You should see the guidelines they have to meet in order to qualify for those programs. Can you find shelter and utilities for $238/mo (that's all they allow for shelter and utilities for one person; I know-I've seen the paperwork)

Obama is a Marxist/Socialist
If anybody out there has not yet figured out that Obama is nothing but a warmed over Marxist, you have not been paying attention, or you just don't know any difference. I suggest that many of the illiterate who support Obama are in the latter category of ignorance of who and what Obama is and What it means to be a Marxist or Socialist.

Well, his lingo is all Marxist doctrine. His campaign is big on pointing out so called "code words" for this and that. Well, let's point out some of Obama's Code Words: "Redistribution of Wealth" which is Marxist and means that we take from those who produce and divide up equally with deadbeats and others who produce nothing but consume greatly off the Government Teat. He mentions: "Using Courts to Redistribute Justice." What he means is that he would encourage and use the courts Mandate Sameness and make laws from the Court, instead of the courts ruling on the constitutionality of the law. Obama talks about "fundamental changes in the direction of governance of the country." This is code words for "We will become a 100 percent Socialist Government with a government that will regulate and control everything you think, do or say, and we will end the Free Market, Private Land and Business Ownership, and everything will belong to the government."

Here is a code word for you Obama---NOBAMA

Vote McCain and Palin if you love freedom and would like to continue living in a free country.


Obama is a Marxist/Socialist
If anybody out there has not yet figured out that Obama is nothing but a warmed over Marxist, you have not been paying attention, or you just don't know any difference. I suggest that many of the illiterate who support Obama are in the latter category of ignorance of who and what Obama is and What it means to be a Marxist or Socialist.

Well, his lingo is all Marxist doctrine. His campaign is big on pointing out so called "code words" for this and that. Well, let's point out some of Obama's Code Words: "Redistribution of Wealth" which is Marxist and means that we take from those who produce and divide up equally with deadbeats and others who produce nothing but consume greatly off the Government Teat. He mentions: "Using Courts to Redistribute Justice." What he means is that he would encourage and use the courts Mandate Sameness and make laws from the Court, instead of the courts ruling on the constitutionality of the law. Obama talks about "fundamental changes in the direction of governance of the country." This is code words for "We will become a 100 percent Socialist Government with a government that will regulate and control everything you think, do or say, and we will end the Free Market, Private Land and Business Ownership, and everything will belong to the government."

Here is a code word for you Obama---NOBAMA

Vote McCain and Palin if you love freedom and would like to continue living in a free country.


Republican vs. Democratic Socialism
Speaking as an "elite" progressive liberal, I think Terry Paulson makes an excellent point in this article. Ironically, it is his same logic that compels me to rest-assured that Senator Obama will win by a landslide tomorrow and will likely be bolstered by compelling Democratic majorities in both Houses of Congress.

My reasoning is anchored by what I would describe as the "unstated" public response to our current economic crisis. I believe that many voters are terrified by the prospects of a devastating recession/depression. Many have already seen their "assets" plunge in value and are fearful of the great "financial unknown". I think that there is an unspoken piece of Peggy Joseph that lurks among many of us when we feel overcome by our fears and uncertainties. When fear and self-interest manifest, our human reaction often leans towards what Mr. Paulson characterizes as a sense of entitlement or as "hammock" versus a "safety-net" mentality. My sense is that many voters feel that Democrats are more likely to provide a comprehensive "safety-net" than are Republicans. Therefore, the notion of "bleeding-heart" Democrats in control during tough economic times is perhaps appealing to many who are fearful. Although many may not give voice to these underlying beliefs or concerns, perhaps many voters prefer Obama's "wealth redistribution" intentions to the notion of giving billions to the banks, car manufacturers, and financial firms. I am not debating the logic or virtue of these positions, I am merely commenting as to the emotional motivators that may drive individual voting behaviors this season.

respectfully,
Thorn

GOP isn't living up to this
"In America today, it's hard to win elections by talking about cutting government spending—saying "no" to anything or anyone at election time is a sure way of losing votes."

As a Libertarian, I feel your pain completely. Only one candidate has proposed cutting spending, according to the National Taxpayers Union:
http://www.ntu.org/main/page.php?PageID=141

"Republicans support economic tough love that challenges all citizens to better themselves."
No, Republicans support unprecedented bailouts. That's not "economic tough love."

"Unfortunately, whatever you reward you get more of!'
TRUE! So STOP VOTING D OR R!

So why worry?
Sir Alexander spelled it out for us a couple centuries ago - America's doom was ordained from the start, & there's nothing we can do about it. Human beings are just so many wood chips being passively, helplessly carried onward by the irresistable river of History.

Wait a minute - didn't Marx say something similar?

Terry
Tell you brother Hank to get the 'teat sucking' banks of their dependency!

And get the US farmer of their dependent teat sucking also!

Republicans did have the 'audacity' to increase farm subsidies from 2001-2007 to the princely sum of $34 billion a year.

We have ethanol mandates, sugar, cotton, soybean, wheat and many more agricultural handouts for the Midwest. These teat-suckers need to get their mouths off the nipples of the government sow. This is a Republican wealth-redistribution program from America's east and west coasts to America's heartland, with America's heartlands values.

Why would one believe that sugar should be subsidized, unless, of course, you are a dentist?

Why should cotton be subsidized, since most of it is exported, the number one importer of cotton is China? Who believes that Chinese manufacturing should be subsidized by the American taxpayer?

It takes a gallon of oil to make a gallon of ethanol. No more mandates! If an American farmer can't compete in the global marketplace, then they can always get a job at Walmart, as a 'greeter.'

Big government and a little church
I'm not real big on big government. In fact, big government is a direct result of a little church. You see, for centuries it was the church cared for the poor, the needy and the disenfranchised of this world, following the Christ’s admonition to help “the least of these.”

Read more of why government will not save us at:
http://www.redletterbelievers.com





Obama lies, Liberty Dies
When the epitaph of this election is written, and the history of the first part of the 21st Century is written, this will be marked as the time when the Democrat Party ceased to be "democratic", and became fully socialist. After all, how can a party claim it is democratic when they put in place a system that allows "super-deligates" to override the membership's desires as to their candidate?
Aside from that, we can now see that by appealing to the worst instincts of the have-not, do-not, will-not masses, the Democrat Party has chosen to ignore the needs of the nation and ALL of its citizens, the Constitution and the Founding Fathers in favor of a quick route to power. This is even more compelling when you think that Wright, Ayres, Kahlid and other America haters are close advisors to Obama, and should he be elected, I am sure they will "stay in touch". What a sad day for the Republic. Let's just hope that we won't have to lament the days of the Republic like the Romans did.

Always Forgotten
Debt and the condition of the country is well known. Where the author slips into confusion is not from what people say - but from what they do. When the GOP had control from 2000 to 2006, did it impose the very philosophy on the growth of goverment, spending, and the teaching of personal responsibility that the author say it stands for?

The GOP is reaping the results of the confusion it has generated with the public. There is a deep natural skepticism that either party, as it is currently constituted, actually believes what they say - or has the will or interest - having said it, to do it.

Obama has crafted as message to win an election. However, his selection of economic advisors in combination with the fact that Clinton also promised a middle income tax break along with a tax hike - yet did neither - indicates that this is a political message that probably won't ever transpire. McCain, on the other hand, promises to freeze spending, cut taxes, etc. After all, that message also has appeal. But again, history implies that neither are likely to transpire.

Right now, we have far too many people listening to the siren's songs of these promises, knowing full well that the reality of ruling has always meant that little that is promised - is ever in fact implemented. Just forgotten.

When Liberty Gives Way to Dependence
One more add then I'll shut up: It further seems to me that obsessive self-interest is what is driving the democrats/liberals rather than the ideals of liberty as envisioned by the Fore Fathers.

Source of Quote does not negate value
A number of replies have questioned the source for the initial quote. It appears that attribution for the source of this quote is not clear. When I searched for the source, I had found Alexander Fraser Tytler, a professor of universal history and Roman antiquities at Edinburgh from 1786-1802. That certainly sounded plausible. After receiving some questions, I found the following source check:

http://www.lorencollins.net/tytler.html

It seems there is no written source from Tytler to support him as the source. There seems to be a variety of sources who have contributed to creating the message passed on as having been Tytler's. The source does not change the sentiment or the value of the insight shared, but it's still important to note.

It's also worth noting that there are some republics that have lasted far beyond the two hundred years noted. My concern is that some of the longest-lasting democracies have lost much of their economic vitality necessary to compete well in this vibrant global economy. I hope that does not happen to America.

Terry Paulson

When Liberty Gives Way to Dependence
Basic facts to me are that people who are love struck with the pretender Nobama have no respect for the Constitution or are sorely ignorant of its magnificence and they must likewise have no respect for a lean government run FOR the people and that maximizes freedoms for all.

When Liberty Gives Way to Dependence
"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." -Thomas Jefferson

We the people are supposed to guide our own destiny with interest and active participation in the politics of the country. Prudence and a conservative stance are required. We vote for politicians who do our bidding not the other way around and a sense of entitlement at the expense of others is not a consideration. “Keeping our powder dry” for future emergencies is essential; another words a healthy reserve in economic and military might is necessary. We the people are doing none of these things and we make ourselves very vulnerable to our enemies and we are mortgaging our futures on borrowed moneys that we don’t control. It’s time to get our internal house in order. Get back to basics like balanced budgets and fiscal responsibility in our own homes and in government. Secure our borders, throw all the blood-sucking vermin out of the country, bring back the manufacturing base, bring our military home, and restrain our diplomatic efforts to a minimum…we are not the world’s policeman and it just invites more animosity from all the deranged but envious mobs outside our borders. We have to stop the hemorrhaging of all that is dear to this nation starting with ourselves and demanding accountability and restraint from the political office holders. That is a nation of strength; the one we have now is an obese Baby Huey waiting to be knocked over with a feather (one of its own at that).

Besides B.O's blatant socialistic agenda combine that with still unauthenticated place of birth, very questionable liaisons with disreputable individuals and organizations, what I believe is unethical if not outright corrupt campaign financing, ridiculously thin resume, and his serial bold-faced lies and we have a monumental problem on our hands.

JOHN MCCAIN IS A HERO !
OBAMA IS A OBAMANATION!JUST SAY NO TO BHO!DONT LET THE HARRY POTTER DUDE WIN!B.HUSSEIN IS UN-AMERICAN!

AMERICA: 7/4/1776 - 1/19/2009
"If Obama Wins..."

http://colony14.net/id53.html

SIGNS OF VICTORY FOR JOHN MCCAIN
On Election Day, November 4th this nation will witness an unprecedented event in the history of American electoral politics: the convergence of two Republican election cycles for presidential candidates that signal victory for John McCain:

One cycle goes back 140 years, the other 120 years; the former consists of six 28 year cycles (the last three of which fell on November 4th), while the later consists of four 40 year cycles falling on November 4th for the first time in history. Both cycles began in years that end in the number 8 (as in 2008), were initiated by military heroes born in Ohio (where the McCain-Palin ticket was born) and saw at the start of their last cyclic rounds the election of Ronald Reagan and Richrad Nixon, two candidates from the West where McCain and Palin make their home.

These two great converging cycles coincide with the birthday of 44th First Lady Laura Bush-the Lady Luck of Republican Presidential politics- the 22nd anniversary of John McCain's first Senate win in 1986 (the day Tom Bradley lost his last gubernatorial election) and the 56th anniversary of Ike's victory over Illinois governor Adlai Stevenson. These are just few of many astonishing signs indicating the unexpected victory of John McCain on Election Day.

Was Barack Obama an agent of Providence for stopping HIllary Clinton so that John McCain could fulfill his destiny and become 44th President? Are we about to see the Second Coming of Harry Truman on Election Day with Obama returning to the Senate in failure and defeat? The signs give a resounding yes! McCain will be our next President.

Click ApolloSpeaks and read my piece: "John McCain, Hero of Destiny: Signs and Cycles of Republican Victory" and see these marvels for yourself.



Demorats...read and heed.....
"During this political season let's be reminded of these wise words. You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.

You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred. You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence. You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves."

Abraham Lincoln

Poverty
statistics are so bogus. Welfare, foodstamps WICK, rent subsidies, heating subsidies are not counted as income. A lot of comfortable people are considered impoverished. Why do the "poor" have an obesity problem in the US? Most liberals here have never been to Mexico city, India, Asia, etc. You want to see real poverty?

Big deal
Paulson knows some slogans and can quote wiser men. What he does not know is why Peggy feels the way she does.

Decades of Republican/Democrat social policy, and election rigging created Peggy. She is the adult version of No Child Left Behind. She is the product of government school indoctrination. She is the product legislative repression and justice denied. Just like Joe she wants freedom and a chance to improve her own life.

Paulson can read the words of others, but he does not understand anything he reads. He just picks out the bits that support his personal biases and by coincidence comport with the prejudices of his readers.

Democracries die
If you want to win the lottery, you can pray for it fervently. That isn't enough though, you have to participate by buying a lottery ticket. The Republican Party thinks that praying is enough and they don't participate. They don't say why they are the good guys in a viable way. Despite losing elections by saying the other guys are terrible, that continues to be their best tactic.
Democracies die when they are treated as being inevitable because they are morally the best and most purest. That simply isn't enough, and the party doesn't get it.

If Obama Wins
Todd,

Worse yet, if the American people vote for Barack Obama they will be voting for Hoover and FDR without knowing it. So successful have public schools been at propagandizing for the left and not teaching history and analytical skills, people either do not know enough history to appreciate the fact that Obama's policies were tried before and pushed us into depression and kept us there for years longer than necessary.

Real?
Joe the Plumber turns out to have been, basically, as presented by McCain, as a stunt and a crass opportunist. Peggy, so far, is sincere and true.

Real v Not Real.

Sort of a metaphor for the campaigns, eh wot?

whoops
I meant McCain wins in subject line and then....."and if Obama wins it will be thre greatest fleecing......"

McCain wins
and if he wins it will be the greatest fleecing of the electorate, ever.

Actually, it's OK with me if he wins - the GOP will win back the House, Senate, and Presidency in 2012 if he wins now.

The people will get the hack Obama and the slogans they so sadly mistook for credible policies in the most powerful office in the land. They are so stupid they are voting on slogans and flourishes of populist rhetoric and not concrete policies. They are voting for LBJ and the total economic failure he was and do not even know it.

Incredible how stupid people are in this country! They will be more careful next time!

But I believe the undecideds will carry the day for McCain.


Obama bin Biden have no charity in them
In the last 5 years, their combined incomes were probably in the neighborhood of 20 - 25 times what mine was, YET I managed to donate more money to my church and other causes than BOTH OF THEM COMBINED!!!

Some years the percentage was as high as 16% and this year my wife tells me we are on track to hit 17% or higher. That's with a family income which is smack in the middle class.

It is not charitable to confiscate my money and give it to my neighbor, who works fairly hard but has two unmarried daughters with three illegitimate children living with him in a two bedroom shack.

I see the idiot putting a LATINOS OBAMA sign on his fence yesterday and I almost got sick, knowing my hard earned wages may soon be going to this poor family of Mexican heritage who have much less understanding of their own country than the many green card holders and naturalized citizens that I work with daily.

All of my fellow workers left "banana republics," hell holes with no freedom or opportunity to come here and strive for the American Dream, only to see it slipping away as we may be voting in our very of Hugo Chavez.

Watched a very spooky movie yesterday from 1940 with James Stewart and Margaret Sullivan call The Mortal Storm - about the rise of Hitler. It was eerily similar to the mindless, mass adoration for Obama's empty rhetoric and false image.


He is happiest ...
who earns what he enjoys. "The worker is worthy of his keep." He is happier still when he can share freely with the less fortunate out of love and concern, not because the government gorillas force him to. We are on a perilous precipice this election eve. May we not be blinded by the light of the illuminati who believe they have been chosen by the gods to rule.

Taft
That Christians don't believe (and the Bible doesn't teach it, btw) that it's government's job to dispense charity doesn't mean we don't give privately. Who do you think runs the soup kitchens, rescue missions and Salvation Army hospitality houses, to say nothing of childrens' hospitals, adoption agencies, pregnancy help centers and orphanages?

Those folks in the Bible who did have 'all things in common' were not forced to give anything-and were voluntarily helping those fellow believers who were in need. There was no government involved, much less coercion. This was NOT the forerunner of socialism, communism, or any other 'ism' you'd care to name. They were, in fact, perfectly free to give more, less, or even nothing at all if that was their choice. Ananias and Sapphira were killed for lying about how much they gave, not for not giving a certain amount. Paul was a tentmaker who didn't hesitate to ply his trade to support himself when he couldn't do so through preaching, and laid it down that anyone who would not work would not eat, either.

Further, just as our praying ought be done in private, so too should our giving, lest we become like the Pharisees who went about trumpeting their 'good deeds' for all to see. Our Father knows what we do, and will reward accordingly.

Uhh....
It's "plumber." From the Latin "plumbum" (lead).

Taft
You said poverty has increased every year since Bush took office. Well, so have illegal immigrants increased and we pay for them being in America.

Christians have a history of giving a tenth of their income and we give offerings also to help the poor. Many other generous americans give to charities, also.

I have given more than Obama did, according to his tax release and I don't make nearly as much as he made.

If you are not a giver, you don't have a clue as to what others have been doing all along.

Games the government plays with numbers

If you're only at 98% of the poverty level and you get a COLA of any amount to keep pace with inflation, it doesn't raise you above the 98%; it only maintains you at that level - but they get to write you off the poverty rolls anyway.

Actually I have to retract the part about the COLA helping with inflation; the State and Federal government take the COLA via increasing premiums, deductibles and cutting food stamps. It doesn't help with inflation at all.

Anybody that thinks the middle class will fare any better is sadly mistaken.

Very Good \point
Steel sil you are right on. Gandhi stated what every real Christian knows.

how obviously innocent, that some suppose that a cycle is the cause of itself. Even the clocks cycle is initiated by the human hand, or there would be no clocks.

When we live by good principles and respect the laws of social, economic and ethical values mutually and exercise self-mastery because of our faith, reverence and love of God and truth we proper in every thing we do, but when we allow, and begin to entertain low, base, unethical moral-less values, the seeds of corruption begin to grow within and that is what divides a nation, and leads to their downfall. Hard times humble us, while good times make us soft and irresponsible, first in our feelings, then in our thoughts, then in our behavior.

Newton's third law of motion teaches us that "Every action has an opposite and equal reaction."

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury."

"From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury,
with the result that a democracy always collapses over a loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship."

"The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been two hundred years."

"These nations have progressed through this sequence;
from bondage to spiritual faith;
from spiritual faith to great courage;
from courage to liberty;
from liberty to abundance;
from abundance to selfishness;
from selfishness to complacency;
from complacency to apathy;
from apathy to dependence;
from dependency back again into bondage."

All the consequence of our neglect or obedience to the truth.

Jesus said:


1) It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.

2) On the last day, Jesus will say to those on His right hand, "Come, enter the Kingdom. For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was sick and you visited me." Then Jesus will turn to those on His left hand and say, "Depart from me because I was hungry and you did not feed me, I was thirsty and you did not give me to drink, I was sick and you did not visit me." These will ask Him, "When did we see You hungry, or thirsty or sick and did not come to Your help?" And Jesus will answer them, "Whatever you neglected to do unto one of these least of these, you neglected to do unto Me!"

3) Jesus said to him, "If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven

Gandhi said, if Christians acted like Christ, there wouldn't be a Hindu left in India.

What's the point?
The Tytler quote is obviously intended to spell out a natural law as applied to human societies. The rest of the article supports the quote as it applies to the US 2008 with adequate remarks.

It makes no sense to argue with so much clear and convincing evidence, this country is simply following a natural path to imminent extinction. That it lasted so far beyond 1965 (onset of the Great Society) is the miracle here.


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"A talkshow host in every pot"
--Nancy Pelosi

"Taxed till you're blue and gun bans too"
--B. Obama

"Read my lips: no new unwanted babies"
--B. Obama

"It's morning again for ammunitions bans"
--Congress

"Weakened, stupified nation"
--J. Biden

"Don't stop thinking about environmental totalitarianism"
--the Democratic Triumverate

The Star Spangled Banner, as well as the Constitution, shall be celebrated appropriately with the song, "Come On Babe Let's Kiss This Thing Goodbye"

Paulson
Wise folks sadly agree with you now. The Peggy Josephs will sadly agree with you soon if Obama gets elected.

Mr. Paulson
What exactly is the difference between an economic safety net and an economic hammock? How do you know? By what objective standard do you separate them?

You obviously believe that the private sector cannot shore up poverty, an eternal problem, so you believe the government should get involved. And there is only one way the government can do that.

Since you agree with welfare--the redistribution of wealth--on principle, then on what grounds can you object when Obama wants more welfare than Bush, or Bush more welfare than Clinton? The principle of property rights has always been violated.

VOTE MCCAIN PALIN !!!!! USA,USA !
B.HUSSEIN IS A SHAME!JUST TYPE IN YOUR SEARCH OBAMA MOCKS THE BIBLE!OBAMA HAS NO RESPECT!

Look at McDonald's
Old Social Worker,

In the Dark Ages (mid Seventies) my cousin worked at the McDonald's on Fordham back when she could safely take the bus to work and her dad picked her up at night.

They had a MENU with PRICES and the kids had to KNOW the prices in their heads! They then keyed in the prices and the register added sales tax to the total.

That was too slow. They "improved" things. The got electronic registers with the names of all menu items and size options. All you had to do was hit "fries" or Big Mac" and it did the rest. What happened? Service got slower and the staff got dumber.

Then they put PICTURES on the register. Now the service is glacial and the staff all but lobotomized!!

The conservative ideal: "If it ain't broke don't fix it."

The Libtard ideal: "If it ain't broke BREAK IT and then pretend to fix it."

-Ray
NRA Life Member
Go 'Cuda, GO!!

Taft-what isn't being done for the poor?
I'm oldsocialworker on my husband's computer, and have been around a while. I cannot figure out what we haven't be doing, besides infantilizing and creating more gov't dependents. Good heavens, people even DRESS like toddlers now- with the big shorts, puffy $200.00 sneakers (even on my "poorest"), andgiant tops.

We now have daycare for middle school students babies in many districts, school meals for entire families, health clinics that include free birth control, housing, clothing and cash allowances, utilities, etc... and all of my "poor" party on a regular basis, but somehow we don't do enough?

Doing for "the least" ought not include ensuring they stay the least and become less- that's all liberal policies do and have done.

True
Democracies Die When Liberty Gives Way to Dependence
============

But we lost the Republic long ago when everyone began thinking America is a democracy

BLOW IT OUT YOUR KEESTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stoned Ranger 29,

It was GORE who only wanted to keep on counting and RE-counting the votes in ONLY THREE COUNTIES. It was GORE who moved Heaven and Earth to keep the absentee ballots from the military from being counted.

The Florida State Supreme Court went ROGUE when they sided with Gore. It took the U.S. Supreme Court to smack them into line and let the election run its course. All you have believed is instantaneous revisionist history that salves you LOSER'S ego!!!!

WAKE UP YOU LIBTARD TROLL!!!!!!!

-Ray
NRA Life Member
Go 'Cuda, GO!!

Because Robet, troll, polls are done
by likely %'s. If pollsters think another gadzillion Dem. or purple voters are in the mix, they adjust their questions and numbers to fit the new data.

NBC has been polling 40% Dem., 30% Rep., and 10% und/ind's. Is it any wonder you then get results that O is up 10 pts.? You don't need to ask any questions or dial any phone numbers to get that answer with that mix.

But I know empirically things are off, because NJ has 3-1 Dem. reg. and as late as Sept., O was not over a 5 pt. lead in NJ, where a Dem. pres. should naturally be up 15-20% the entire race.

Something is entirely rotten in Denmark.

Two weeks ago O was ready to leave PA because his internal polling with the *right* numerical mix because he felt he was trailing too much to stay campaigning. O only remained in PA because Rendell cried to Dean and the DNC.

O is now *leading* in PA by 5 pts., but he was leading in PA by 5 pts. before Hillary took the state by 10 pts. HillBuzz says Mac will take PA by 5.

I don't know who the redstate and hillbuzz posters are, but they are obviously not the typical trolls who want to suppress Rep. vote or cheer for the Big O.

Vote McCain/Palin and send O back to the Sen. where he can do nothing until the someone who could find Joe the Plumber's DMV records can also find a birth certificate for O.

See redstate.com and hillbuzz.com
for confessions of O workers.

The polls are all whooey and O knows so, which is why he is still compaigning like mad.

FL, OH, PA, NC are all for Mac. O only has NM and IA for sure of contested states.

Plan was to get Mac to make some terminal racist remark or act and drive polls above 12 and 15%. Never happened and then Mac picked Palin whom O fears and hates.

The were all ready to give Romney the Mormon treatment and Lieberman the warhawk label but Palin fouled them up, so all they could was make personal attacks. Now they know that was prob. a really bad mistake. Women didn't like it.

Don't let liars and "news" suppress vote the way Dan Rather tried to throw FL in 2000 by announcing for an hour that FL was closed when the Panhandle voting was open.

Vote McCain/Palin and let O go back to doing nothing in the Sen. Maybe by 2012 one of the *investigators* who so easily tapped Joe the Plumber's privacy can locate a real birth certificate for O.

National Socialism is better anyway.
The actions of many Americans has made is clear that it is time for us to apologize to the Nazi Party for what we did to them in WWII. After all, as we are learning for ourselves, National Socialism is actually a pretty good idea. Especially when the citizens of the country are led by a charismatic personality who ensures that they focus their personal dissatisfaction with life on a particular group of people.

Nazi Germany opted to blame the Jews for every negative aspect of post WWI Germany. The economy had taken a hit, unemployment was on the rise, and the German people were convinced that their nation no longer held any opportunities. In a master stroke, Hitler made scapegoats of the Jews, and the German people took vengeance on this class of citizen. Though Hitler has been condemned for this action, we now realize his ideology was just. Turning the majority of citizens against a minority is a good thing when times are tough. It feels good to blame others when we are frustrated, and a wise leader knows how to utilize such frustrations for the benefit of the majority. Hitler was such a leader, but thankfully for us, he was not the only one to happen upon the scene.

In taking Hitler’s wise approach, Obama has prudently directed our wrath against the rich. He has informed us that the rich owe us all a living, and that the possessions of the rich should be taken away from them in the name of justice. Our lives will all be made better if we just allow the Obama administration to make the rich pay our bills, and that certainly works for those of us who are not rich. Hitler said the same thing about the Jews, and it sure worked great for the Germans who were not Jewish.

As our current efforts prove, it turns out that we were wrong to chastise Hitler for his ideology. Americans now see the wisdom of demagoguery, and it is our time to turn against a minority group of our citizenry.

See redstate.com and hillbuzz.com
for confessions of O workers revealing how much polls are off and how Dems. are working to suppress Rep. vote.

It's not too late. O only has IA and NM for sure. He's still campaigning like mad because his internal polls have him only up at max 5 pts. anywhere. Even in NJ where reg. is 3-1 Dem., he has no 14-20 pt. lead that should be obvious.

Hillbuzz says O down in PA and Mac will win by at least 5. Two weeks ago O's internal polls showed O down 2-5 pts. and only a Rendell appeal to Dean and DNZ kept O campaign there.

Get out and vote.

Get every one else to vote. Vote like a Dem: early and often.

Vote McCain Palin and give O the shock of his miserable life.

Hey Barack, Wheres my Free Lunch?
*
Socialism means STUPIDITY.

If Obama’s IDIOTIC Energy Policies are actually unleashed on the American people; God Help Us
_

All this has been foreseen!!
"A republic shall become a democracy and a democracy shall become a dictatorship."
-Plato 300BC

-Ray
NRA Life Member
Go 'Cuda, GO!!

War on poverty

These sort of Christian ideals are making a comeback. Rick Warren is one great bright spot here! a fact that every moral person with a conscience may want to ponder before pressing the M/P button on tuesday...

" In fact, the poverty rate decreased during every year of President Clinton's tenure -- indeed, the rate was even lower in 2000 than it was in 1999 -- and has increased every year since President Bush took office."


Whatever you do to the least of these, you do to me.

J.C.

ted

I'M flagging your offensive post. It violates this blog's rules.

democracies
we are not a democracy we are a representative republic,there is a big difference

Lets End Welfare...
Yes, lets end welfare dependency, and force everyone to be strong and self-reliant.
Lets start with the naks on Wall Street, and cut off the 700 Billion dollar welfare check; lets cut off the Auto companies, insurance companies; lets cut off the no-bid government contractors suckling at the public teat; Lets cut off the oil welfare check that goes to every Alaskan;
And while we are at it, lets cut off this Judeo-Christian crapola of being our brother's keeper, and being kind to the poor, and helping the sick- it is that sort of soft-hearted dogma that has caused this country to go to heck in a handbasket- "every man for himself" should be our national motto.

11/2 Just Out:Obama to Bankrupt COAL !
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MORE NEWS FROM THE THE SOCIALIST
*
ATTENTION: PENNSYLVANIA-VIRGINIA-INDIANA-OHIO

JUST OUT THIS MORNING 11/2; NEW AUDIO INTERVIEW THE MEDIA HAS ONCE AGAIN HIDDEN FROM YOU THE VOTERS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdi4onAQBWQ

In another BOMBSHELL Obama says the gov should pursue a policy of increasing energy prices until users, meaning you, give up.

Day after day the hits just keep coming.
Media Suppression and out right Lies, anything to elect The Messiah.

WAKE UP AMERICA!
CHANGE IS COMING AND NOT THE KIND YOU WANT!

Oh boy
a proofreader I am not. Sorry.

Judges 2:10 After that generation died, another generation grew up who did not acknowledge the Lord or remember the mighty things he had done for Israel.
11: Then the Israelites did what was evil in the LORD's sight and worshiped the images of Baal.
12: They abandoned the LORD, the God of their ancestors who had brought them out of Egypt. They chased after other gods, worshipping the god of the people around them. and the angered the LORD.
13: They abandoned the LORD to serve Baal and the images of Ashtoreth.
14: This made the LORD burn with anger against Israel, so he handed them over to marauders who stole their possessions. He sold them to their enemies all around, and they were no longer able to resist them.
15: Every time Israel went out to battle, the LORD fought against them, bringing them defeat, just as he promised. And the people were very distressed.
16: Then the LORD raised up judges to rescue the Israelites from their enemies.
It goes on to say that God took pity on them and raised up judges to rescue them from their enemies. But they refused to listen to the judges and prostituted themselves to other god....
See any parallels? God is no respecter of men,
this republic was founded on judeo/christian
principles and over the decades we have turned away. We have been chastened several times be it the civil war, depression, the two wars, and we still strayed, then Vietnam a war won but
a defeat because the ones now elected were useful idiots., We began sacrificing our babies,
allowed licentious to run rampant, elected criminally corrupt leaders and still didn't listen..now we face the most dangerous candidate
ever with a good chance of gaining the W.H. by hook or by crook, more likely crook. Yes, I would say God's not too pleased with U.S., we need to pray and beg His forgiveness because it's the church's sin more than anything because of it's silence.

WHO......
Who trusts Barrack Obama and why ?

Why
do we refer to this government as a Democracy, it's not, it's a REPUBLIC.

I've said this all along, this country is at a CROSS roads, either we choose life as exemplified by SARAH or death as exemplified by
the indonesian/kenyan citizen.
God gave us this country, and our Constitution that was the product of heartfelat prayer by the Founders in Philadelphia. Just as he gave
Israel to the jewish people. He chastized Israel many times for straying from Him, are we that arrogant that we can say it can't happen here? What do you think is happening, the final
straw is this creep, this faux American.
Judges 2:10-16 tells of his judgement on the Israelites who turned away from Him and followed other gods and sinned morally; he turned them over to their enemies. Ya thing
the faux American is our friend? with the company he keeps?

Ben Frankilin said it best.
"If you want to bring people out of Poverty, you need to make Poverty Uncomfortable."

If you subsidize anything, you get more of it.

Some day our liberal "Friends" will outgrow their ignorance, problem is, they'll be followed by another generation.

Freedom isn't Free.

"The other day, Senator Obama said, if he lost this year, he would go back to the Senate and prepare for another act in 4 years.

That sounds like a Great idea.

Let's help him make that happen!!"

John Mccain nov 2, wallingford,PA




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LAWS OF SHERWOOD FOREST REWRIT

Our most important concern for the future of our Republic, if Obama is elected, will be their complete control of every facit of governance, ownership of the financial institutions and American enterprises.http://www.nationalrepublicantrust.com/video_4ads_eg.html

The “Obama, Pelosi, Reid Dynasty” will ensure socialism prevails in the DOE curriculum. The unions will ensure higher taxes, companie closures and job losses for the American workers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usvG-s_Ssb0

Speaking in July 2007 at a conference of Planned Parenthood, Obama said, "We need somebody who's got the heart, the empathy, to recognize what it's like to be a young teenage mom. The empathy to understand what it's like to be poor, or African-American, or gay, or disabled, or old. And that's the criteria by which I'm going to be selecting my judges."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OowxMcVTjTE

Six of the current nine Supreme Court justices will be 70 years old or older on January 20, 2009. There is a widespread expectation that the next president could make four appointments in just his first term, with maybe two more in a second term. Here too we are poised for heavy changes dangerous to freedom! http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122515067227674187.html

Moreover, fifteen Federal Appeal judges will be appointed in the “Obama, Pelosi, Reid Dynasty.” With a “filibuster free” congress and senate our Republic is doomed to socialism for the next fifty years or longer! Obama tells us he is a Marxist! This means our U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights will become useless. http://www.usasurvival.org/obama1.html



Excellent piece...
...right on the money.

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over a loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through this sequence; from bondage to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to great courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to complacency; from complacency to apathy; from apathy to dependence; from dependency back again into bondage."

Wow...read that and then read this...

http://www.faithfreedom.org/obama.html

...and vote to keep that mentally unstable racist obamathug far away from the White House.


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