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Wednesday, February 13, 2008
Terry Jeffrey :: Townhall.com Columnist
When Obama, Clinton and McCain Decisively Agreed
by Terry Jeffrey
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One thing Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and John McCain all have in common is that they voted to give retroactive Social Security benefits to illegal aliens who committed document fraud.

Indeed, McCain voted for it before he was against it.

On May 18, 2006, when the immigration reform proposal advocated by McCain was on the Senate floor, Sen. John Ensign of Nevada offered an amendment.

As written, the bill immunized illegal aliens from being prosecuted for document fraud, including using a stolen, or a fake, Social Security number. Additionally, the bill did not stop the current practice of allowing aliens who are eventually granted permanent legal residency to go back and claim credit with the Social Security Administration for work they did as an illegal.

Thus, the immigration reform proposal advocated by McCain in 2006 would not only have added millions of illegal aliens to Social Security rolls, it would have protected these aliens from being prosecuted for fraudulently using other people's Social Security numbers.

Ensign sought to buffer the blow of this double-barreled attack on fiscal responsibility and the rule of law. His amendment let stand the provision granting illegal aliens immunity from prosecution for document fraud, but it denied them the ability to claim Social Security benefits based on work they did while fraudulently using someone else's -- or a fabricated -- Social Security number.

When Ensign's amendment came up, McCain tried to seize the moral high ground by suggesting supporters of Ensign's amendment were trying to confiscate someone's "nest egg." "If this amendment is enacted," he said in a floor speech, "the nest egg that these immigrants have worked hard for would be taken from them and their families."

"I believe the amendment is wrong," McCain said.

Ensign did not "calm down" and go away.

"Is he aware that it is a felony to use someone else's Social Security number?" Ensign asked of McCain.

"I am aware of that," McCain said.

"Under this legislation, we forgive that felony," said Ensign. "We grant amnesty for that felony."

Now, the Straight Talker double-talked. "Under this legislation," McCain responded, "we allow the illegal immigrants a path to citizenship which, if they are convicted of felonies or misdemeanors, according to an amendment, then they would be ineligible to embark on that path to earn citizenship"

Ensign neatly parsed this evasion. "Right," said Ensign. "But ... in Sections 601 and 614 of the legislation, it actually ensures that aliens who receive legal status cannot be prosecuted for document fraud, including the false use of Social Security numbers. Is the senator aware of that?"

At this point, McCain had no recourse but to admit he was proposing amnesty from document-fraud prosecution for illegal aliens whom he would put on the path to citizenship. "The senator is aware that when people come here illegally, obviously, they do not have citizenship, so, therefore, any Social Security number they use, whether it belongs to someone else or is entirely invented, is not valid," McCain said.

Shortly, McCain also implicitly conceded that Ensign's amendment would not deprive anybody of a "nest egg" they had saved -- and explicitly stated that it was his intention to give illegal aliens Social Security benefits, which they had no reason to expect, for work they did here illegally.

"Of course they didn't expect to receive benefits they had to pay here illegally," said McCain. "The whole thrust of this legislation is to give them not only Social Security benefits but, as importantly, the protections under the law, as they now live in the shadows and are exploited and mistreated in many cases."

Ensign, by contrast, was trying to protect U.S. citizens from paying taxes to provide retroactive Social Security benefits to illegal aliens who had exploited the government's non-enforcement of both the immigration and document fraud laws.

Ensign's amendment lost by one vote. Obama, Clinton and McCain voted against it.

On Jan. 5, one of the taxpayers Ensign was trying to protect asked McCain a question at a town hall meeting in Peterborough, N.H. He was a legal immigrant from India. "I'm a proud American, and I don't understand, for the love of me, Republicans and Democrats calling illegal immigrants guest workers and providing for them and allowing them all kinds of services," the man said, according to The Associated Press. "And I'm given to understand you endorse some of them."

McCain was indignant.

"I do not support nor would I ever support any services provided to someone who came to this country illegally, nor would I ever and have never supported Social Security benefits for people who are in this country illegally, that is absolutely false."

Unfortunately, no one in Peterborough had the parliamentary privilege to ask the senator to yield.

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Now, now Terrence,
Didn't you get the memo. It is time for all of us to sit in a circle, sing kumbaya and drink some Kool-aid. You are not to bring up McCains words, deeds or voting history. It is against the rules of the Elephant party. You will be chastised and sent to dwell in the forest of malcontents. Rush, Laura and Sean are there. And you will have to be re-educated at the camp of RINO. Here, you will be indoctrinated with the fear of an Obama or Hillary presidency and it will wash away all the feelings of dread you now have of McCain, along with the truth of who is and what he represents.

Come on, it's easy. Just drink up and swallow your pride and give yourself over to the elephant. After all, principles are such a paltry price to pay for power.

Kumbaya!

McCain has no...
Honor or Integrity. McCain is a traitor and should be ashamed. He should resign his position in the Senate, remove himself from the GOP race, and appologize to the American people.

But but
Mccain has so much in common with conservatives.... can't we just overlook his positions on cutting taxes, global warming, drilling in anwr, illegal immigration, the 1st amendment, etc,,,,,

For the good of the party,,,, please ignore these issues.

Not in our White House, please
John "Mr. Amnesty" McCain's record on illegal immigration is a travesty. Those who voted for him are either amnesty lovers, smitten by McCain's nauseating "war hero" mantra, flat-out stupid or just plain lazy. Anybody who voted for McCain must be out of his/her mind.

I loved the contrast in the debates: old, feeble, slow-walkin', slow-talkin' McCain (McCane?) getting thrashed on every issue by the intelligent and presidential Mitt Romney. But, McCain receives the most votes because people are ignorant: He was even given high marks by many voters in exit polls on immigration. That's the same McCain who co-sponsored the biggest amnesty giveaway in American history just last summer; Romney's position was "no amnesty." And, the same McCain who admitted that the economy was not his specialty; it is Romney's, though.

So who comes out on top? McCain, of course. Only in America. Mindless! Absolutely mindless. Were these voters living on another planet the last few months? Maybe those iPods were turned too high or the hearing aids turned too low. The Republicans could have a nominee like Romney to energize the party with hope. Instead, we're stuck with lame McCain, who would not be averse to putting milk, cookies and welcome mats on the border if he becomes president.

Enough delegates or not enough delegates, I wish the Republican Party would show some courage and say "enough!" -- and tell McCain to take a hike at the Republican National Convention (tell him to move to Mexico, for that matter). Then, make Romney the nominee.


Ooom, ooom
BOTH parties have their mantras this election season... forget what I did and said yesterday, listen to me today.

No Votes For McCain
McCain is, aside from being a liar, a dangerously stupid man.

Google "McCain Dixie Chicks" or swing by my blog to see the ultimate expression of McCain's feeble grip on the basics of constitutional law.

I'm stumped....
....so how do I vote? I can't let the chips fall where they may & see Obama as prez. I do not believe Mrs. Clinton will be the candidate.

Can we impress Romney to return?

Not voting seems a dangerous option.

McCain is a dolt.
Click on Arturick above and then click on "Chicks" to see how ignorant McCain really is.

Some Facts About Illegals in the U.S.

This is from an e-mail which was just too good to ignore. Lots of important info here. Things the “upper crust” with their “analysis” tend to gloss over with their “professional views”. This issue is one of many where the general public is being misguided by the so called “experts”.

Illegal Aliens Cause Massive Cuts For US Seniors

December 4, 2007

http://rense.com/general79/seniors.htm

I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I have included the URL’s for verification of the following facts:

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year. http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

READ MORE

http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/some-facts-about-i llegals-in-the-us


A Lump of Coal Marinated in Salsa
I won't vote to have a lump of coal lead our country.

Bring back Romney before it's too late.

And, John Konop
There' what happens to the school systems with ESL programs and special education costs (many children of illegals require an IEP along with ESL). It can cost anywhere from $30-80,000.00 per year (depending upon the district) for just ONE student.

In addition, gang activity has exponentially increased (Latin Kings, DDPs, MS13, etc...) with our open borders approach to self-destruction. The cost to law enforcement and corrections is enormous- though I can't begin to guess what the numbers are.

I'll pay $90.00 for a melon if it means sending the illegals packing.

McVain stupidity
The entire "comprehensive giveaway" fiasco of McVain-Kennedy reveals a real McVain; a McVain too ignorant and arrogant to lead this nation anywhere other than further down the road to self-destruction!
The issue of this article was only the tip of the iceberg of the insanities of privilege for the INVADERS and betrayals of US Citizens authored in McVain-Kennedy.
IF Benedict Arnold was driven to treason by others, McVain has trailblazed his own way there, and now, the GOP will offer the guy as their 2008 Presidential candidate, and I hope there is an election landslide this Nov that sweeps the GOP into the trash can of history. A new party of the right needs to arise from the ashes of this November's election results! If RINO "blue bloods" in the GOP want their own party, I say let them have the GOP.

Let's get with the program...
With McCain's clean sweep of the three Potomac primaries Huckabee is 100% eliminated and like it or not John McCain is the GOP nominee.

Huckabee needs to immediately back off from his senseless fight against the Republican nominee so the GOP can begin the work of organizing for a huge battle with the Democrats. If Huckabee and Paul stay in they are harming the party and reducing the chance that conservatives will have a voice in the White House next year.

McCain is not my ideal nominee either, but that's who conservatives have to work with this season. The Democrats are the 'enemy' now, not fellow Republicans.

Let's get with the program...

I suggest a McCain/Romney ticket to unite the GOP and defeat the Democrat contender.

http://mittromney.townhall.com

No choice
We have no choice. It would be better to have a democrat for four years whom we could fight, than a backstabber who will garner republican favor in congress. Once a liar always a liar, once a backstabber always one......I will bet you McCain secretly backstabbed his fellow pow's while captured......secretly.

Hell No I won't go...
No, I will not go along to get along. If McFlapjack is all the GOP has to offer for president then I don't want to belong to the republican party. Romney actually got more votes on Super Dooper Tuesday than McCane. I am for Romney or Ron Paul. Some folks won't vote for Romney because of his religion, but they will vote for B.Hussein Obama that belongs to a church with out spoken racists officials heading the church. Obama has also had Koranic teaching and has a muslim father.Go figure. It's unfortunate that the despicable left wing propaganda machine aka the main stream media picks the presidents in this country.The US will get what it deserves in this election.

unity
I am groing more accustomed to the fact that the next president will not lead in the direction that I feel is best for this country.

I am coming to realize the I want to go to battle against someone wearing a different uniform; not someone that's trying to pretend that he's on my team. (and tells me that *I'm* not a team player!)

I once thought that Bill Clinton was going to destroy the Democratic Party; but now I see that they were never in danger because they put power over principle every time. The will close ranks and unite behind a flawed leader if it means retaining power. There are a lot of Republicans that are the same way, but I do not think this is a good thing.

THE STUPID PARTY

.....Republicans must be stupid if we allow a rigged Primary system and the MSM to select our nominee for us ...if the RNC wants to marginalize Conservatives then maybe a new "Conservative Party" is called for ...and at the same time Democrat Party should be re-labled the "Socialist Party" ...we can call it truth-in-advertising so that the voters will know what they are voting for .....COLOSSUS

To any and all liberals
If Clinton or Obama are just a bit too far left for your tastes, vote for McCain!

He is just a tad to the right of those two socialists.

Unfortunately, there will be no conservative running on a major party ticket in 2008. Oh well, people, bite the bullet -- again.

RNC Amnesty P1mps
The Chair of the RNC is Senator Mel (rhymes with Fidel) Martinez R-FL. Martinez is a long-time Bush bootlicker and Amnesty p1mp.

Martinez is one of the 10 Senator amnesty p1mps who snuck into the secret, late night meeting that puked up the McCain-Kennedy Scamnesty Bill.

I've lived in my home for 7 years with no problems in the 1st 5 years. In the last 2 years the neighborhood has suffered 3 break-ins. One is unsolved, the other 2 were by GROUPS of illegals.

Because the Feds won't protect OUR borders, I'm going to buy another gun to use to protect MY borders.

I'm stumped about how
McCain can become or nominee. Are people that short memory or stupid?

Romney needs to do a Lieberman and register as an independent for the general election. I cannot an will not vote for McCain. There are values that I have to uphold. We will get more of what we vote for.

Robert
How is it you have so much hate? I have read many post of yours (scroll by your name now)and have never seen one positive comment from you nor anything concerning the subject of the articles, just attacks and name calling. Why? why not debate your position using rational thought?

No SS for temps
It should be apparent to any rational person that it makes no sense to include anyone who is not on a path to citizenship to be included in the Social Security system (or Medicare or Medicaid or ----). It is even more irrational to think that someone here illegally should be included. There should be two types of legal immigration and only two. The first is for those who are on the path to become citizens. It makes sense for them to be issued a Social Security ID and be included and welcomed to the family.

The second is for temporary workers. They should be issued a temporary worker visa and ID which permits employers to verify their legal authorization to seek a temporary job. The employer should be required to pay tax at least equal to the 15.3% payroll tax (I suggest more if the temp brings a family). This tax revenue should go to the local government and used to pay for expenses incurred by having the temp in the community. Illegal immigrants would have to obtain a temp worker ID or leave or stay and risk deportation.

bobthebuilder at 10:08 AM
Don't feed the troll.

Mc Cain
Most of the posters have it right. McCain is no friend of the constitution.

For a slightly different take on the current political situation, click on my name. Any comments?

bobthebuilder
You must be fairly new to town hall postings. Robert is a resident troll. the huff n puff and Kos send these a***ol*s over here just to stir up trouble. Or try to. Others are HalD dnd treacherous republican. There arre a few other borderline trolls. Just keep reading and you will find out who to scroll on past. Don't bother to engage ( it is tough at times ). I have requested they be banned. Some have. But they come back under another name. The folks at town hall are aware and are trying.

McCain who would be King
So, we defeated his amnesty bill last year; we can do it again. You who would go along with him, grow a backbone and join those of us who will not accept him. Tell the RNC we DEMAND an alternative. If we speak with a united voice- NO WAY!- they will shortly get the message. While I didn't support Romney, keep in mind he did not officially "withdraw", he "suspended." I don't know that he's the answer; if not, there is one out there somewhere.

PS- Our Constitution doesn't provide for two "parties" on a ballot. Does anyone know how a party gets together and on the ballot in all the states? What's this we see occasionally about a "Constitutional Party?"

The people sat in darkness
“If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner.” —H. L. Mencken

Nothing changes but the values we hold to and demand.

The changing of values that made America is being changed little by little, and re-creating a new nation unrecognizable to the America of even the recent past, let alone the Foundations.

For a politician to become a master, he must pose as a servant.

Who he seeks to serve is the question we need to ask, and demand the truth.

This is what this new age of darkness will not do.

These people placed themselves in this position, willfully when they decided American Law is beneath them.

quote the article:

"Of course they didn't expect to receive benefits they had to pay here illegally," said McCain. "The whole thrust of this legislation is to give them not only Social Security benefits but, as importantly, the protections under the law, as they now live in the shadows and are exploited and mistreated in many cases."

McCain is criminally negligent to promote crime himself, and is what this does.
Making himself a criminal who supports law breaking.
Problem is, not even the President of the USA respects American Law, and supported these crimes against the American people.

No such thing as "equal protection of the Law"
WITHOUT!
"equal ENFORCEMENT of the Law."


Mexicans first, Americans last
Hey, why wait for illegals to send money back home. Bush plans to give Mexico 1.5 Billion to protect THEIR borders and offer them security. It is called the Meridia plN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT...CHECK OUT mALKINS COLUMN. Is there any outrage left from this congress that would rather represent anyone but Americans? I am sick and tired of these pompous ,moronic thieves running my country into the ground. They are also resurrecting their amnesty plan yet again to further beat Americans over the head into submission. Right now they are more concerned with baseball and steroids thAN working for the country. There are so few politicians left who dn't make me lose my lunch......I will NEVER EVER vote for that traitor McCain! It's like voting for Bush again and I regret doing that before!

I'm Not Voting For McCain
...for the good of our country. I don't think he looks or acts healthy anyhow. His 95 yr-old mother looks better than he does.

No Ex Post Facto Law
Can be made in the United States of America legally.

This is a direct ATTACK on the US Constitution that FORBIDS ex post facto law.

Without obedience to this COMMANDMENT of the Law of the Land, one will NEVER know what the law will be from day to day when Congress is in session.

Nothing could be more anarchist than the law makers themselves criminally guilty of disobedience to the very laws they are SWORN TO UPHOLD AND PROTECT.

Any change top Immigration law that forgives the crime of any illegal act is a crime itself.
Making the ones who seek to overthrow the US Constitutional demand no law can be made after the facts of a crime. PERIOD!

Any man who seeks to overthrow immigration law is a criminal, period.
He shows he has no respect for law, and worthy of contempt from every law abiding citizen.

This goes for the President and any member of government that is a hired hand to PROTECT THE LAW.


Not overthrow it as McCain and his gang of anarchists seek to do.
They have broke their own oaths of office.

“In order to become the master, the politician poses as the servant.” —Charles de Gaulle

Join the Tea Party...dump McCain!
Vote Huckabee in your state's primary! (Texas primary is March 4)

The issues:

1. National sovereignty
McCain - Open borders
McCain/Kennedy(/Bush) amnesty bill
Says "secure the border" but doesn't mention a fence!
Says governors will "certify" border security. Inept doofuses like Perry & Schwarzenegger? Is he kidding?
Campaign advisor Juan Hernandez - "Mexico First" - former advisor to Pres Vicente Fox - dual citizen
Huckabee - Signed NumbersUSA no-amnesty pledge
Will build the southern fence (real double-layer fence) in 180 days
Wants a Canadian fence too
Endorsed by border-hawk ex-candidate Representative Duncan Hunter and Minutemen cofounder Jim Gilchrist

2. Foreign policy
McCain - Member of Council on Foreign Relations (independent of United States!)
Huckabee - Not a CFR member
(that one was simple)

3. Energy independence
McCain - See Foreign policy, above
Against drilling in ANWR
Huckabee - Supports ANWR drilling
Has a plan for energy independence in 10 years - loves to say, we'll tell the Saudis their oil is worth about as much as their sand

2. Taxes
McCain - First he was against the Bush tax cuts, then he was for the Bush tax cuts
Did not sign Americans For Tax Reform "no new taxes" pledge
Huckabee - Signed AFTR "no new taxes" pledge
End the IRS, replace it with the Fair Tax
No more tax returns! No more Social Security tax! No more Medicaid tax!
Championed 1st broad-based tax cut in over 100 yrs, over a Democratic entitlement-minded Arkansas legislature


The GOP Is Morally Bankrupt

McCain rose to the top of the Republican Party because he is the epitome of the type of creature it has come to represent.

Today, the GOP is NOT a party of conservatives nor is it a party for conservatives.

In 1858, Abraham Lincoln was a disgruntled Whig who could not stomach what the Whig Party had become. Mr. Lincoln left the Whigs to help form a new party. NOT A THIRD PARTY but a NEW party.

We need a NEW party. Where is our Abe Lincoln?

Is it Newt?

Join the Tea Party...dump McCain! part 2
5. Abortion
McCain - Endorsed by Republicans for Choice (/Abortion)
Only votes pro-life when he gets something in return
Huckabee - Pro-life all his life
Attended pro-life marches & rallies since before being governor

6. Same-sex marriage/Gay rights
McCain - Voted against the Federal Marriage Amendment
Endorsed by Log Cabin (homosexual) Republicans
Huckabee - Got a constitutional marriage amendment passed in Arkansas
Will vigorously promote Federal Marriage Amendment
(This will also help judicial reform, by freeing the legal system from these issues)

7. Supreme Court/Judicial appointments
McCain - Alito too conservative - "wears his conservatism on his sleeve"
Huckabee - supports ALL strict constructionist justices, including Alito

Calling all conservative Republicans - Romney supporters - FredHeads - Paul supporters -
tell McCain and the Republican National Committee no!
We will not "vote" for your king!
No taxation without representation of your conservative base!

And the beat goes on
And still the media barons keep insisting that John McCain is a true conservative, a straight-talker, and the best choice possible against Obama and Hillary.

But all you have to do is scratch his record and out pops the evidence that McCain, Hillary, and Obama all see things the same way. The only real difference is that Obama and Hillary don't lie about it like McCain does.

Nominate this guy at your own peril. He will lose in November.

Doing the jobs Americans will not do
Just one American City that has been trashed with Crime.

Anyone ever hear anything from McCain or the President, or any invasion supporting peach pickers concerning ALL THE CRIMES THESE PEOPLE ARE COMMITTING?
no!
Not even the President of the United States of America has shown an IOTA of concern for the American Citizens being raped, robbed and MURDERED BY THIS Crime wave allowed by the Federal (USELESS) Government.


This is no more need for debate.
The ONLY need is the ENFORCEMENT OF THE LAW.

Our Prisons are filled up with those coming to "do the jobs Americans will not do" GWBush.





The Illegal-Alien Crime Wave
Heather Mac Donald



Some of the most violent criminals at large today are illegal aliens. Yet in cities where the crime these aliens commit is highest, the police cannot use the most obvious tool to apprehend them: their immigration status. In Los Angeles, for example, dozens of members of a ruthless Salvadoran prison gang have sneaked back into town after having been deported for such crimes as murder, assault with a deadly weapon, and drug trafficking. Police officers know who they are and know that their mere presence in the country is a felony. Yet should a cop arrest an illegal gangbanger for felonious reentry, it is he who will be treated as a criminal, for violating the LAPD’s rule against enforcing immigration law.



http://www.city-journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.htm l

Time to set aside euphemisms
It seems rude, low class and unintelligent to take the direct path in describing lies and liars. We like to "take the high road" and illude to a persons true nature and persona, which is the best that we should expect from high profile individuals operating through various forms of mass media and politics. Still, for those of us that are not in such high profile positions that "can read the stitches on a fastball" it's time to call them like we see them and recognize senator John McCain for the liar (with regard to his actions and the nature of his character) and bully that he is. It will take all that is within us as conservatives to hold our noses and remain in the party, but we still have the ability to call them like we see them.

Does everyone agree with me? Of course not, but I know that there are a lot of conservatives that do, and we need to be the force that we are for change to move our party back to the right, and to look at men like John McCain with great scrutiny. Liars earned their reputation and we need to make them earn any degree of political forgiveness!

"Love your enemy" also means that we will have enemies from the ranks of those whom we love, but they are enemies none the less.

krystalbird
Vote for CONSERVATIVES from ANY PARTY for Congress/Senate/Local races. Instead of The McAmnesty McMidget, Vote Donald Duck for President, same height, same temperament, same IQ.

A Wal-Mart Wobbie Wikipedia Posting
I am the all seeing, all knowing, Wal-Mart Wobbie Wikipedia. I have seen everything, done everything and I KNOW EVERYTHING! I’m a veteran of ALL The Armed Forces. I have flown EVERY PLANE, fired EVERY WEAPON and sailed EVERY SHIP in the US arsenal.

When I’m not busy SAVING THE WORLD and ENLIGHTENING THE IGNORANT, I like to relax with Wonder Woman, The Neoprene Nympho. All I need for Wonder Woman to make me happy is time, a tire patch kit and an air pump.

OOPS! My break is almost over and I wanted to get a Slurpee, take a ride on The Wal-Mart Helo, change my Depens and take my Meds. I’ll be back with more Delusions of Grandeur later.

Sometimes I feel like a nut, Sometimes I don’t

Wal-Mart Wobbie Wikipedia

No dalosophy it's time for a new party.

In the name of party unity I held my nose for Nixon's creation of the EPA, Nixon's creation of OSHA and Nixon's creation of Title IX.

In the name of party unity, I held my nose while the GOP made Ronald Reagan bow out and let Gerry Ford tank the GOP ticket.

Ronald Reagan never asked me to hold my nose while he crushed the Soviet Union, demanded loyalty of our allies, wailed on Kadafi and slashed government oppression. Reagan only asked me to work hard, stand tall, be proud of my country and to thank God for America. And that's what I did and it was glorious and wonderful. And the socialists were confounded and defeated. Reagan was a balls to the wall, take no prisoners fighter and it worked!

G.H.W. Bush asked me to hold my nose as he raised taxes and did not thump Saddam Hussein when he had the chance. It stunk to high heaven.

I have been holding my nose for more than 7 years while G.W. Bush has let in hordes of Mexican criminals, allowed the rule of law to errode into a whisp of a joke and let Congress illegally attack his cabinet members. It stinks!

No more holding our noses!

It's time to take a stand and seek a change of venue. The GOP is defunct.

It is NOT the party of or for conservatives.

Listen Up Folks, And Get This Straight
The reason that our elite politicians in Washington get away with the garbage they do is because YOU have continued to vote for them. YOU have fallen for their lies and YOU believe it when they tell YOU there is no other choice, nowhere else to go.

The entire election process is rigged to keep power in the hands of the elites. The phony liberal vs. conservative ideological battle is designed to keep YOU divided against each other. The DEM/GOP/MSM propaganda machines work very hard at keeping YOU in a box and keeping YOU voting the lesser of two evils. The elites have now accumulated so much power that they no longer fear YOU. There is a struggle for power between the two parties that has nothing to do with intelligent, creative, or innovative thinking to solve the challenges ahead.

Until America Wakes Up and recognizes the scam being pulled on all of us, we will only get more of the same. It has never happened and never will, that doing the same thing will produce a different result.

The lesser of two evils choices is almost settled, and once again YOU will go to the polls. What will YOU do this time? Before YOU do anything, YOU had best get overe to my website, JOEOLIVAFORPRESIDENT.ORG and find out how cleverly the elites have stolen our birthright. What the h--- are we waiting for? Thanks, Joe (BTW, when I say YOU, I include myself)

Illegal aliens
Actually Federal welfare funds are banned to illegal aliens, what is being spent is funds on US citizens who happen to be the minor children of illegal aliens.


I thought that using a
false social security number was called something like "identity theft" and was punishable by prison time.

Imagine doing it and being PAID by the government for your ingenuity! It's an absolutely ghettofabulous dream!!

As far as the Presidential race goes, I have nada to lose in November now, so I think I'll write in Mitt Romney on my ballot.

New Parties
New parties don't do very well, so not sure outside of giving Obama and/or Hillary the White House what good you are doing.

Let's review...

Reform...perhaps cost Bush 41 his re-election, although it got some 19% of the vote it won not a single EC vote and thus was about as significant as the Libertarian Party of Natural Law Party.

Dixiecrat...gave Nixon the election in 1968 which was probably its goal.

Bull Moose--it did cost Taft the election, but beyond that?

Republican--won in 1860 and only because the Whigs imploded and the Democrats broke into at least two pieces? (Bell was a former Democrat).

Let's look cross-culturally. The New Party which split from the LDP in Japan cost the LDP control of the Diet which it had controlled for 38 years. The New Party in Taiwan has never been more than a nuisance made up of pro-China radicals and has never had any impact at all. The PFP (People's First Party) another KMT splinter group only managed to give the DPP the presidency in 2000.

So unless you goal is to have Hillary or Obama in control and both are far worse than McCain on his worse day, I don't see how a new party would do anything to foster your goals.


One more pebble for the pile...
... that shows conclusively that McCain is not a conservative.

We true conservatives will NEVER, NEVER, NEVER vote for him.

ACU - GW DESTROYED THE GOP


.....Editor: ‘Is the conservative movement dead?’ The answer is no, the movement is alive and well. What we may be witnessing however is the beginning of the death of a political party. I don’t make that statement lightly or out of a sense of disloyalty. I simply see the handwriting on the wall. Strange how our political leaders are so oblivious to what is really going on! If this crop of candidates isn’t a bombproof argument for small, strict-constructionist, constitutional government, I don’t know what is. When we allow the federal government to go out of its defined bounds in order to defend some “implicit understanding” of “where America stands on the matter,” we have historically gotten the “implicit understanding” of Earl Warren, William Brennan, and Ted Kennedy, and not of Barry Goldwater, the Founders, or Thomas Aquinas. As for the flag, I see no impediment to any state outlawing flag burning (of the U.S. flag), or requiring that the Confederate Battle Flag be flown above government buildings, for that matter. In that case, if we don’t like it, we can leave. Eight years ago, the Democrat Party was comatose, on its deathbed. To use General Walters’s term. Somehow George W. Bush and the “new” GOP have resuscitated the Democratic cadaver. And they’ve ruined our own party, and movement, and issues, to boot. Chris Manion.

Only Twice
Studying the current crop of frontrunners only reinforces the wisdom shown by the collective electorate during the history of our country in that of the 43 presidents to serve, only two were Senators at the time of their election. Since it appears as if a third(rhymes with turd) will be the winner in Nov and the choice is akin to one between syphilis, the clap, and crabs it's time to stock up on antibiotics. The fact is that we'll be getting shafted at the top, regardless of who gets to be POTUS #44, the best we can do is work our tails off to elect a Congress that will thwart the socialist impulses of that individual. The worst thing we can do is to sit this one out, it's like forefiting a game, inexcusable.

boomerbabe
absolutely sweet post. I'm still grinning.

JUAN MCCAIN
this is my essay for Johnny Mac:
LINCOLN SAVINGS AND LOAN
LINCOLN SAVINGS AND LOAN
LINCOLN SAVINGS AND LOAN
4 DEMOCRATS + 1 REPUBLICAN =
KEATING 5
KEATING 5
KEATING 5
DOESN'T ANYONE REMEMBER?
THE CITIZEN TAX COWS WERE SORELY USED IN THIS CORRUPT ACTION BY THE 5 SENATORS FROM D.C.
ADIOS
Harvey (Jarvey?)
Lancaster, Mexifornia-Taxifornia
dial 1 for english

WE HAVE A PROBLEM!
The Democrats are energized! They are IN LOVE with Obama, quite litterally in love! He gives enthusiastic, inspirational speeches and says "YES WE CAN" but is carefull to leave out any details. He is a blank slate on which his admirers can project anything they want. He is "all things to all people".

By contrast, the Republicans are NOT energized and, as evidenced by the posts on this thread, feel disenfranchised, disillusioned and dispirited. A sure recipe for disaster in Nov.

The solution: We ALL need to contact our delagates to the Republican National Convention and let them know in no uncertain terms how we feel and why and WHAT THEY NEED TO DO ABOUT IT!

We are entitled to a cantidate chosen by the MAJORITY of our party, not merely a plurality.


Robert
And all other Liberals that are in love with Obama. Go here to read a true perspective.

http://pepperhawkfarm.townhall.com/

wobbie cockroach
Who do you think you're fooling?
We all know you're a Democrat.

It seems like--
At first it seems like a very bad dream. Then you realize that it is reality to see what has become a real nightmare. I agree with the vast majority of blogs on this thread. The choices that we have for POTUS are the worst and what will follow I believe will be worse. Open borders, higher crime, higher taxes, rotting infrastructure, lost resources, etc.etc.
The reasons this has all happened began years ago, and have escalated since due to the sell outs we have elected, (my opinion). I am glad that my wife and I have no children because I hate to see the world that they will inherit unless something is done very very quickly to turn this dissaster around.
An old Viking proverb from my and my wife's ancestors: Feed the wolf and he becomes stronger. Become a sheep and the wolf will devour. There are too many sheep who are following these politicians who are controlled by the special interest wolves. Am I wrong??

B.N. Svara

Wobbie Is A Democwat
We know wobbie is a democwat because wobbie is on welfare. Therefore...

You Are Correct
Svara: You have it exactly right. Thank you.

Bad news Robert
While I admire your candidate for his integrity, I personally see no way he can win the nomination. Just look at the posters here. While they represent a minority of the party, in an evenly divided electorate...assuming it is still...every percentage point counts. Besides that, Dems won't even have to attack McCain, they will simply have to replay the juiciest critiques by members of his own party.

To Kapahulu--
Keep the faith, we can't give up. I am writing in Duncan Hunter for Prez and Tom Tancredo for VP. My protest against the sheeple who want to be destroyed.

Here's the thing Robert
Many of those folks who you say hate the far right are against our involvement in Iraq. McCain's remark about '100 years' in Iraq will be played ad nausem until the fall, alienating at least some moderates.

By the way Robert
I've been trying to find out if McCain has had any uptick in fundraising since Super Tuesday. Anything you can share?

Rockhead J. Squirrel writes:
The Dem base is as stupid as the GOP far right nutties are...They cheer at the drop of a hat as well.

Robert

But not nearly as stupid as you are.

McCain loses in Nov because of Amnesty
My prediction: McCain loses in Nov because of Amnesty.

Pro Amnesty voters vote for Democrats.

No Amnesty voters vote for 3rd party or stay home.

McCain loses in Electoral College landslide.

No Amnesty Mavericks united to defeat McCain.

McShame = LIAR / TRAITOR

He is a LOSER and will never win. I am gleefully looking forward to his public meltdown when this fact finally makes contact with the rot in his head. HOPEFULLY that will the last we ever see of him. Oh the Audacity of Hope!

Akagi

Went to your blog and there's nothing there. Sup with that?

Rise to the occasion, Sen. McCain
Now that McCain has the Republican nomination sewed up, he needs to get his head on straight and not play fast and loose with the truth the way he did as pointed out in the above column by Terrence Jeffrey. He's needs to take a good, hard look at himself, and make a real effort to be forthright about his positions. If he can't defend them or own up to them, it's very telling, and it's a good indication that he doesn't take the responsibility of being president very seriously. I like John McCain, but if he can't demonstrate, and very quickly, that he's a cut above the typical politician, I'll probably sit this election out.

THE QUESTION IS How Did We Get This...
...liberal senate trash? ( While not even bothering to explore the unqualified and inexperienced senate trash from the left. )

This is how;

How the Republican Party Committed National Suicide By JB Williams
http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_19227.shtml

Who Hijacked the Primaries? by Brett Winterble
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=24726

The Death of Conservatism? 43 Mistakes and the GOP's Dobson's Choice
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1961546/posts
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