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Friday, June 05, 2009
Suzanne Fields :: Townhall.com Columnist
No Slouching Toward Confirmation
by Suzanne Fields
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Nothing so polarizes the nation as a nomination to the Supreme Court. Advise and consent is often more like divide and confront, rarely eliciting our best debates. "Borking" a candidate has entered the lexicon of tactics for savaging a nominee by exaggerating positions with simplistic slurs, uttered with an attitude and tone of self-righteousness.

It's worth repeating in full Ted Kennedy's famous attack on Robert Bork when he was nominated for the Supreme Court, because it so maliciously misleads by naming those the senator said would be abused by the nominee if his colleagues dared to confirm him:

"Robert Bork's America is a land in which women would be forced into back-alley abortions, blacks would sit at segregated lunch counters, rogue police could break down citizens' doors in midnight raids, schoolchildren could not be taught about evolution, writers and artists could be censored at the whim of the government and the doors of the federal courts would be shut on the fingers of millions of citizens."

Quite a hysterical mouthful. Kennedy, along with his radical feminist and liberal helpers, successfully poisoned the minds of the judgers of the judge, employing emotion rather than rational understanding of the philosophy on which Judge Bork applied the law. After Bork retired from the spotlight, he retaliated with an exaggeration of his own. He called his book "Slouching Towards Gomorrah," suggesting that the nation was becoming the Biblical city burnt to the ground as punishment for the sins of the people. But we no more risk being exiled to Gomorrah than Robert Bork would bring back segregation.

If the title of his book stretched the degree of our decadence, it also developed a cogent argument that sheds light on the reasons for Sonia Sotomayor's nomination. Unlike Bork, who was nominated because of his brilliance as a lawyer, Sotomayor was chosen for what has come to be called "emotional intelligence," or empathy, an important qualification for a psychotherapist but dubious qualification for a judge.

*** Special Offer ***

While the president went out of his way last week to say that he believed his nominee would admit to a poor choice of words when she said that a Latina judge could reach a "better" conclusion than a white male judge who didn't share either her experience or instinct, her fans rallied to her: This wasn't racism, but common political rhetoric of activist groups. The identity culture spawned by the Democrats diminishes the white man while it continues to blame him for patriarchal abuse of power, whether inside the White House before Obama or on Capitol Hill and at the Supreme Court.

Culture in this country, in the Bork scenario, influences politics and liberalism as it is practiced demanding "equality of outcomes." This certainly was the point behind the decision in the firefighter suit in New Haven, Conn., when Judge Sotomayor voted for dispensing with all promotions because no black qualified for promotion.

Hispanics and the rest of us have every reason to applaud the accomplishments of Sotomayor -- her biography reflects the American dream in which we all take pride. No one should denigrate it as important to establish who she is, just as many of us appreciated the accomplishments of Clarence Thomas.

Biography is important. It testifies to ambition, hard work, discipline against the odds. But Sen. James M. Inhofe of Oklahoma, a Republican, is right to question Sotomayor's "ability to rule fairly without undue influence from her own personal race, gender or political preferences." How she answers questions like this will be crucial to determining whether she's a good choice for the high court.

Bork, as a pessimist, believes that America is in decline. The "morning in America" celebrated by Ronald Reagan has become late afternoon in America. Bork's personal experience makes that understandable. Such pessimists see the nomination of Sotomayor as a step toward decline. Her nomination, however, can be an opportunity to examine the hazards of identity politics. The task before the U.S. Senate is to get to the content of Sotomayor's character and her judicial qualifications -- what Alexander Hamilton called "the requisite integrity with the requisite knowledge."

That will require toughness, not nastiness, from senators on both sides of the aisle. Clarence Thomas, who should know, said it well: "A good argument diluted to avoid criticism is not nearly as good as the undiluted argument, because we best arrive at truth through a process of honest and vigorous debate." So the senators should take their lunch. They have a long day's work ahead.

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I strongly disagree with this column

Bork got it right in "Gomorrah", whether Fields likes it or not.

In Fields's world, "Bork, as a pessimist, believes that America is in decline.
The 'morning in America' celebrated by Ronald Reagan has become late afternoon in America."

And it certainly has, from the noontime apex of the sun under Reagan, to a country descending into the darkness of fascism as government takes over control of private business and healthcare, starts unilaterally disarming, spends trillions of dollars it doesn't have, with neither major party acting like responsible adults.


What the hell is Fields looking at to make these statements? Is she Pollyanna?


facisim is not slouching here
So Kennedy thinks that storm-troopers breaking down doors in private homes is not good? Several weeks ago a dozen Federal Marshals forced their way into a widows home in the south and took her teenaged, homeschooled son without due process under the home security law. He is being held somewhere in Indiana in a Federal concentration camp. Supposedly, they found something on the internet that they say the kid was talking about a making a bomb. The mother says that is not possible, if they did it was a plant. Probably this is the case. But they do not have to prove up anything, and say they can hold him lindefinitely under this home-security provision. WHAT? Why all the liberal tears over Muslim terrorist and no thought for a young American teen and his widdowed mother? Who will be next? God Save America!

Diving Into Facism
This once great Republic is not only in rapid decline - it is nosediving into facism with the gleeful pilot, the Stealth Muslim oBUMa at the controls.

I believe this is only day 136 of the Charlatan-In-The-White-House's reign of terror. Not even 10% of his term completed and the destruction he has brought upon the country is almost to the point of being unfathomable. All rational, aware individuals could start writing their own lists of the un-American actions and policies of this despot and they'd still be writing a week from now. This is mainly because the drumbeat of destruction is incessant and in the week the list was being created there would be more in the continuing onslaught against the Republic.

I am uncertain we can survive this socialist maggot in the Offal Office. It may be too late by 2010 to right the course of this country which he has slated for socialist oblivion.

Gomorrah
I don't hate liberals or democrats. I do hate their policies, and their willingness to take extreme measures to make their points. I don't trust the regime we now have in place. I do not believe Obama won the race fairly. Yes, many voted for him, but how many votes were manipulated by ACORN?
There was a lot of wrongs in our government, these things needed to be fixed. Socialism is not the answer. Ask the people of China and the old Soviet Union.
America is Gomorah? I'd say, yes.

It is really important that we stand up
against the Left Wing appointees that Obama is trying to ram through and put in the Supreme Court.

Not only is Abortion at stake, but also things like traditional marriage, which is continually under assault, while conservatives sit on their hands and think of other things.

Why is it that conservatives have to be reasonable about letting these Leftie extremists get confermed, when the radicals that rule Capital Hill have blocked our best candidates as far back as memory will allow?

Stop sitting in the corner and patting yourself on the back, saying: "what a good boy am I!" Time to pull the thumb out, Jack!

Thomas and Kennedy
That final quotation from Clarence Thomas rings almost shockingly true in a time when weasel-y politicians use language so abstract and general that their words can mean whatever a hearer wants them to mean. Thomas is a cards-on-the-table kind of person, and it seems to me that the majority of such persons are conservatives.

Even an overt racist or sexist can be easier to argue with than someone whose words are carefully chosen to befuddle us into some sort of acquiescence. The Current Occupant of the White House uses words this way all the time.

Kennedy--just a silly bit of doggerel
Not too long after his infamous aquatic event, Sen. Kennedy was sounding off on "the poor"in his usual self-righteous way, and I felt suddenly that I was staring right into the soul of the man. The result was the following double dactyl. BTW "infracaninophile" is just a made-up Latinish word for "lover of the underdog."

Hypocrite

Higgledy piggledy.
Senator Kennedy
Still seems to harp on
The same boring notes,
Tirelessly posed as an
Infracaninophile
Merely to gain some in-
Competent votes.

Bork Sotomayor
She should be treated exactly as Judge Bork and Clarence Thomas.

SURVIVAL
Suzanne
Thank you for your nice and sweet comments.
Unfortunately the progressives / liberals don't understand nice and sweet...they view it as weakness. This isn't about civility, it is about survival! Time to get tough, rough and fight for our freedoms that these tyranical, dictatorial trash want to take from us.
"Whatever it takes" Suzanne. This is war within our borders! Rid us of such people.
Will you stand with us, or will you be nice and sweet and be destroyed?

Advice
1. Liberals would have loved Obama to nominate an extreme liberal.
2. He didn't. He nominated middle-of-the-road.
3. So conservatives ought to quit fighting when they're ahead; Sotomayor's rulings are being described as "moderate".
4. No Democratic president is going to nominate the kind of conservative that conservatives love eg a Clarence Thomas because that president's voting base would tear off his skin. Politics is reality.
5. So forget that as even a possibility.
6. It is possible to screw around for years and hamstring the court by accepting nobody nominated by a president you don't like.
7. That helps this country to function?
8. "Simplistic slurs" and "self-righteousness" have already been poured onto Sotomayor.
9. Now those who did the pouring are backing down and making nice.
10. Chill. Life goes on. Go make some coffee.

To renny
While you are sympathizing with Clarence Thomas, get hold of a copy of David Brock's book "Blinded By the Right". Brock was the journalist who was recruited when Scaife funded the project to get Clarence Thomas on the Supreme Court by smearing and discrediting Anita Hill. Brock spearheaded the smearing. In his book Brock ( who later left the conservative movement) tells all. Since you are interested in "what was done to Clarence Thomas"---note well that Thomas' confirmation was accomplished by methodically destroying Anita Hill.

Lilly, you shouldn't...
bring up Anita Hill when the left's own poster child, Bill Clinton, made the Anita Hill controversy look like something out of a Little House On The Prairie rerun.

Anyone on the left who attempts to commandeer any kind of righteous high ground is flirting with utter lack of credibility.

Your view of conservatism is ignorant at best, approaching psychosis at worst.

Lilly wrong again
Big difference. Clarence Thomas was framed by a sociopath; Anita Hill was exposed, by a gay lib, no less. You should be rejoicing that Scaife was so fair-minded in distributing his funds. The other women present in the venues where Thomas and Hill worked were appalled at Hill's bizarre, unsupported attempt to frame Thomas, which she tried to do anonymously before being outed by vindictive Dims (is there any other type?).

Keeping a confirmed racist like Sotomayor off the Supreme Court indeed "helps the country to function." Sotomayor's Justice is blind only in the sense that it wears a hood.

Converts--for Lilly & Tacitus X
I wonder which is more likely to be honest--a conservative who turns into a liberal or a liberal who turns into a conservative. If anyone knew the answer to that one, and the percentages of honest-dishonest responses on a range of issues, he/she would be like the wise person imagined in Tennyson's "Flower in the Crannied Wall," a poem I have often contemplated.

Flower in the crannied wall,
I pluck you out of the crannies,
I hold you here, root and all, in my hand,
Little flower -- but if I could understand
What you are, root and all, and all in all,
I should know what God and man is.

But alas, these are things no one can know. We can only read and listen to what people say and judge their character as best we can. Mostly it comes down to our experiences with those we know best--our friends and relatives.

Judge Sotomayor
People often say what they really feel when they are comfortable. Judge Sotomayor was comfortable when she made her racist assessment of the abilities of white jurists. Lots of people struggled for success; Hugo Chavez for example. It didn't leave him with a judicial temperment.

Divorce Not An Option
No one expects Sonia Sotomayor to divorce her ethnic background nor her upbringing since even the thought of doing this is counter to what most Americans believe in, I hope. Her decision in the firefighter case, makes one stop and realize that her idea of what is fair in life and what our Constitution dictates is fair may not be compatible, by any standards. Reverse discrimination is as bad as basic discrimination and may be even worse, because it indicates a bias going beyond discrimination.
My main concern with Ms. Sotomayor is her apparent arrogance. I see this same arrogance in Obama and the entire Liberal movement. It is as if until they gained control, no one was doing anything right and yet we see mistakes being made daily by this "cure all" approach to government. My attitude is based upon being a registered Democrat for fifty-four years but always a Conservative, believing in a small but effective government.

Clifton L. West

America's not like Gomorrah?
What are you looking at Suzanne? Among the things God destroyed Gommorah about were: child sacrifice and perverse sexual behaviors. (See Chapter 18 of Leviticus.) We have employed chld sacrifice in this country with the government's sanction since 1973 to the tune of an estimated 50,000 (!) abortions, some of which were late enough that the baby could have survived outside the womb; all of which were horrible ways to treat a baby. (Some may object to the use of the word baby, insisting that an unborn child is a "foetus" or "fetus" but using those Latin words is just a smokescreen. Foetus is just the Latin word for "baby.")

Now "progressives" are in the process of insisting that the definition of marriage, which was instituted by the Creator, be changed to accomodate arrangements that God expressly forbid.

Pornography is rampant. So is human trafficing. Even children are being kidnapped for immoral purposes. The nightly local news consists mainly of recounting murders and other crimes.

That doesn't even touch on politics. God save us!!!

Lilly, that was hilarious!

"1. Liberals would have loved Obama to nominate an extreme liberal.
2. He didn't. He nominated middle-of-the-road."


Yeah.... if that "road" is the Karl Marx Highway!



Correction:
The figure should be 50,000,000 (!)abortions.

O - WTBC?
Obama - Where's The Birth Certificate?

Only one big question remains.
How can Sotomayor deny the statement made on tape where she said the appellate court is where "policy is made"? On the same tape she said she shouldn't say that BECAUSE they were on tape! In other words, this is my thinking, oops-I got caught, I'll explain this away somehow, and in the future I'll still teach, act, and feel this way, only I will NEVER get caught doing it again...that is until I sit on the SCOTUS! Once there, there ain't a thing the peons can do to stop me. I believe every Senator ought to deny her nomination--- no matter what their party. She has made it clear that she will legislate from the bench, House and Senate be damned. You have to be stupid to blindly follow party lines with such a person. To hell with her sex, race, and life story. Those are not qualifications for the position. The Senate, if they approve her, will in fact do so BECAUSE of those things. Talk about reverse discrimination and quotas! Then they will ask that the court be blind to those things after they have done it themselves. By what standard of logic does this scenario work out?

Gomorrah Looks Tame by Comparison1
Ms. Fields, in trying to apply the "progressive's" most oft used torturously illegitimate drawing of a "moral equivalency," in this case, between the insane rantings of America's senior alcoholic Senator Ted Kennedy, states:

"After Bork retired from the spotlight, he retaliated with an exaggeration of his own. He called his book "Slouching Towards Gomorrah," suggesting that the nation was becoming the Biblical city burnt to the ground as punishment for the sins of the people. But we no more risk being exiled to Gomorrah than Robert Bork would bring back segregation."
_________________________________________

I think Mary pointed out the biblical parallels which expose the idiotic and unstudied conclusion Ms.Fields draws when she says, "...we no more risk be exiled to Gomorrah than Robert Bork would bring back segregation."

This woman is suffering from a severe psychosis if she believes that.

Gomorrah Looks Tame by Comparison2

The United States is heading down a road that makes Gomorrah look tame by comparison.

• There have been 49,551,703 abortions (human infant sacrifices) in the U.S. as a consequence of Roe v. Wade since 1973 with over 1.2 million occurring in 2006-2007 (and the average number per year being over 1 million!).

We've slaughtered more innocents in this country than Hitler and Stalin COMBINED!! since Roe v Wade!

• Sexual unions between a man and a man, and a woman and a woman has become considered to be a superior (and more “loving” lifestyle) than the natural union that nature itself designed for ALL species!

• Liberals (who have become dominant in all spheres of society, including politics, education, AND the church) are rebelling against the authority of the Bible (ridiculing and rejecting it’s admonitions) and questioning the divinity of the Christ. (Even, in many cases, calling biblical teachings "hate speech" and seeking the prosecution of preachers for daring to teach them).

• And the fastest growing religion (in terms of percentage) is Wicca -- a Neopagan religion that is sometimes referred to as Witchcraft.

Numbers of adherents went from 8,000 in 1990 to 134,000 in 2001. Their numbers of adherents are doubling about every 30 months.

After reading the asinine comment Ms.Fields made drawing her moral equivalency between the bitter and hate-filled racist scare the "negros" comments of drunken Ted...I realized a need to go no further, because the writer was writing her article from a state of denial...or utter stupidity.

MerryCollin
Conservatives create a lot of trouble for themselves by failing to do thier due diligence. Your comments about Sotomayor's statements is a good example.

Sotomayor was answering a question. The question involved what sort of clerkship would be the best for an aspiring lawyer. Her response was that appellate courts, because they are concerned with broader issues and broad applications of law were more interesting. The effects of appellate court decision went beyond the circle of just the plaintiff and defendant.

She was 100% accurate. Appellate courts make decisions that establish broad guidelines. So, for example, if an appellate court decides that a library can indeed curtail access to pornography on its computers, then the ruling applies to all libraries in the region. It's not necessary for every single library to have a trial on the issue.

Like it or not, she was exactly right in her comments. The only reason you complain is that you were told this was a bad thing. You oppose her becuase you were told to and very likely have no idea what her opinions really are on any issue.


Oldprof's poetic musings
Oldprof asks "I wonder which is more likely to be honest–a conservative who turns into a liberal or a liberal who turns into a conservative." The inquiry would be largely irrelevant since honesty is an individual matter. We don't make moral judgments with a collective brain. We each possess responsible human agency, whether or not we recognize it.

We also have to distinguish between honesty and knowledge. A person who expresses a falsehood may merely be mistaken. The question of honesty requires an inquiry not into what is true, but what that person believes is true. This is usually inferred, with the burden of proof often shifting to the subject.

Strangers are unlikely to be as honest with you as your relatives and friends, who hopefully value your well-being more than a stranger, who may simply view you as prey.

Poetic merit aside, as an epistemological matter I don't agree with Tennyson's premise that hypothetically complete knowledge of the "little flower in the cranny" would give one complete knowledge of other entities any more than trust in a retriever pup would be a reliable guide for trusting a pit viper. Experience counsels that dissimilarities are often greater than similarities and that analogies can be dangerous as well as helpful.

Facist Govt THRIVES on Polarization 1
Suzanne Fields starts off her piece by positing her opinion as fact that, "Nothing so polarizes the nation as a nomination to the Supreme Court."

I disagree with this statement.

Nothing so polarizes the nation as the "election" of a radical "progressive" Democrat administration.

The game Democrats play (and the number 1 tool in their playbook) is POLARIZATION.

Barack Hussein "Goddamn America" Obama has shown since before his nomination that he is totally committed to the politics of polarization. He began with class warfare, "rich" villianization, racial polarization (re:Eric Holder's comments), and is pursuing it by whipping up and exploiting Hispanic vs other American's since of the direction America is heading in with the massive demographic shift in America's population due, in large part, by the massive and illegal influx and invasion of our country by Hispanics crossing our borders and bankrupting our states with their flooding our social service agencies.

These are but a few examples, as polarization is being exploited by liberals on many fronts at once. Homosexual agression and their attempts to label opponents of same-sex "marriage" as homophobic; attempting to "normalize" abortion which is by-and-large distastful to the majority of Americans; providing health care with taxpayer money, to the children of non-citizen criminal invaders of this country; the WH leaking information that it is their intent that "white men" not benefit from the construction jobs created by the Stealfromus bill, and the list go on.


Fascist Govt. THRIVES on Polarization 2

EVERY ONE of Barack Hussein "Goddamn America" Obama's policies is purposefully designed to be polarizing.

Small POLARIZED groups are what make up the base of the Democrat Party. Barack Obama and his cronies (Rahm Emanuel, etc.) have made it no secret that they intend to milk POLARIZATION for all it's worth.

Sotomayor is just a small part of their overall plan to divide and conquer America in order to "remake" it in the Socialist government-controlled fiefdom that will insure the necessity for a permanent government referee to keep people from destroying one another in the pursuit of their groups' polarized cause.

A fascist government THRIVES on polarization; and a fascist government is what we now have in Obamanation.

Polarization is the name of the game...
to liberals. Under Saul Alinski's "Rules for Rebels" (Obama's handbook for ruling) you have to find a cause and use that as a wedge to divide and conquer. Any race (as long as it isn't white) can use their identity to browbeat the "establishment." If this has the familiar ring of the hippy-dippy daze of the 60's and 70's, these are the people who are in charge of your country now. Obummer chose this woman for a specific reason and it has worked wonderfully for him and his "change you can believe in" to overthrow the establishment. Divide and conquer, swarm and overwhelm the people with crisis and chaos and you have them eating out of your hand. WAKE UP PEOPLE! Please, before it's too late.

To John Reply #26
If this is the case, that is, that a decision made in a court of appeals sets the precedence for all other cases involving that issue, then why did she say that she shouldn't have publically said that "policy is made in the appeals courts."???

The Supreme Court is the ultimate appeals court. There is no remedy from their decision. Are you saying that the Ricco case should be the standard for the whole country? And don't give me that old crap that it was only one case. 60% of her cases that went to the Supreme Court were reversed!

The Identity Culture
Ms. Fields correctly pointed out that the Democrats spawned the Identidy Culture. This is one more way of dividing the nation into cultural groups. Remember Abe Lincoln's warning that "A house divided cannot stand." or words to that affect. It's no wonder Obummer likes old Abe. He, along with Saul Alinski gave him the blueprints to bring "change you can believe in." Balkanize the country, pit the haves against the have-nots, the whites against all others, and you will bring to a boil the cauldron of "toil and trouble." Congrats, by the way, to all of you useful idiots who voted for Obummer. You have our eternal loathing.

Gunny Cee
She said that because she knows that right wing geeks, bein gunable to comprehend the reality, will begin to froth at the mouth and speak in tongues. Turns out she was right. Again.

In Regard to Ricci. If the Supreme Coourt upholds Ricci as it now stands, then YES that is a far reaching decision. Unless and until SCOTUS reverses Ricci, it is indeed policy, though I doubt very much you know what that decision really is or what policy implications it might have.

Of course 60% of her cases were reversed. 60% of ALL cases are reversed! The fact that SCOTUS even takes a case indicates that they feel there are serious constitutional questions at hand.

I repeat, conservative oppose Sotomayor because they have been told to, regardless of whether they know anything about her or her judicial philosophy.

LILLY says she's an old teacher.
I believe it. She's also senile. She must be if she believes the tripe she puts out. She seems easily led by the left-wing media. Try watching soap operas Lilly. You'll get more truth than the mainstream media.

Judge Bork

Actually a 60% over turn rate is rare for a Supremem Court Nominee.

Judge Bork never had any of his cases overturned.

Liberals opposed Judge Bork.

Joel-De Oppresso Liber
What is the basis for you conclusion that the constitution was inspired by god. Any why is land any more god given than any other land?

Bork' America
No wonder judge Bork thinks America is sinking. After all women no longer have to obey their Husbands, Blacks cannot be excluded form country clubs, Gay people are actually protected form harassment from Homophiles and soon they will be able to marry. And soon everyone in American will have healthcare like the rest of the indutrialized world. Its just hell out there.

Bork the dork
Isn't Judge Bork the one who was all for tort reform and then tryed to sue the Yale Club for nig bucks when the klutz tripped going three stairs to a stage to speaka an invited quest. A word don't invite this putz to your house unless you have extra homeowners insurance. Like Rush ACLUing it big time to prevent the DA from finding out if he was doctor shopping for his fix, Bork has one set of rules for himself and another for everyone else.

Kennedy got it right Bork was a scary wacko.

Onceandalwaysamarine
Where do you make this stuff up? How ever suggested that gay relationships are superiior to straight ones. No one in the gay community, what is your source for this stupidest of conclusions. Gays want eqaulity as in equal not superior. Next you will be telling us that soon enough straight marrages will become illegal.

Come on even you can't be that stupid. Would you like to revise your remarks?

Onceandalwaysamarine
It wasn't the Dems that created the southern strategy?

Joel-De Oppresso Liber
Too bad for the native Americans. What was their sin being in the White Man's way? This god given destiny stuff its revolting. It has been the basis of some of the most awful attrosities.

None of know what god's plan is and it is the height of arrogance to suppose that the United States is a chosen land more than anyplace else in the world. At least Israel is mentioned in the bible and Rome home of the the first Christian Church. Tell me where America is mentioned once in either the Old or New Testiment. At least the book of Mormon mentions America.



"White Man's Way?"
History shows that a few European groups were involved with American colonies and the slave trade. Ironically, "oppressed" Hispanics killed more Natives of the Americas and enslaved more Africans than any other group. While slavery was going on, most of my particular ethnic group was living in Ireland -- and most of them lived in Western Ireland -- the plurality of my ancestors came from Mayo specifically -- perhaps around half of them died between 1845 and 1850 due to starvation and related coffin ships. But my ancestors from that area did not leave until about 2 generations later. My grandfathers first cousins that we were still pretty close with died without owning land -- and grew up speaking Irish as a first language. The "White Man" is no more a "killer of people of color" than the "person of color" is a criminal. That is a major problem with revisionist historians like Sotomayor and Jeremiah Wright. That ignorance results in legal atrocities like the Duke lacrosse politically motivated prosecutions. Two wrongs (even if not even distantly related) make a right. Because I look like a slave owner (according to people) I should "pay" and because Obama "looks like a slave" he is/was oppressed despite my/his actual ancestry.

John in PA, re #33

You wrote, regarding Ricci: "Unless and until SCOTUS reverses Ricci, it is indeed policy,"


ONLY in the Second Circuit, wherein that decision was rendered.

Circuit Court decisions aren't binding on any other Circuit.

The only decisions that are universally binding are SCOTUS decisions.


the Supreme Court took the case
so it is likely that unless it reverses the case that it will be a national policy -- unless the Court simply just remands it for a development of the record or concludes that the Appeal was improvidently granted. So, the most likely outcomes are either affirming the dismissal or reversing -- either way it will be binding -- unless the Court then also issues an Opinion like Bush v. Gore specifically saying that the Opinion only applies to the unique circumstances -- which, again, would be very unlikely.

Bork Sotomayor
I usually agree with Ms. Fields but not this time. She raises the right concerns but she had not made up her mind.

We already know enough about Sotomayor. I do think what she said was racist. It certainly would have been considered racist if a white guy said he was a better judge because of his race.

Sotomayor came right out and said the court of appeals is where policy is made.

Sotomayor has been reversed to many time. She will be reversed even while the senate is considering her. That's a disgrace!

I liked the Thomas quote. apt.


Are some racists MORE EQUAL than others?


Suzanne Fields writes: "Her nomination, however, can be an opportunity to examine the hazards of identity politics."


Even better, it can be an opportunity to examine double standards and “acceptable racism” vs. “unacceptable racism”.

Because that's what we're talking about here.


lilly - are you an "Animal Farm" racist?


Lilly, are some racists ‘more equal’ than others?


Lilly writes: “Liberals would have loved Obama to nominate an extreme liberal.”


Why? Unless you, like Sotomayor, believe policy should be made from the Judicial bench, why would you want an “extreme liberal”, instead of someone who follows the Law as it is written?


If Sotomayor had been nominated by a Republican, she would have been “Borked” and withdrawn the moment her racist comments surfaced on video.

That is a double-standard: one standard for Republicans and a different standard for Democrats, and it is unacceptable.


If it was discovered that Sotomayor was a member of the racist KKK or the racist Black Panthers, she would be “Borked” immediately, and rightly so.

It HAS been discovered that Sotomayor is a member of the racist “La Raza”. It says so right on her American Bar Association page, third paragraph from the bottom:
http://www.abanet.org/publiced/hispanic_s.html


This is another double-standard: one standard for Black Panthers and KKK members, and another standard for La Raza members, and it is unacceptable.


Racism is racism. Double-standards are double-standards.


Unless maybe you’re a proponent of “Animal Farm” style racism, where all racists are equal, but some racists are more equal than others?

Does that describe you, lilly?


Are you an “Animal Farm” racist?




Scott way to much truth for lilly!!!
Lilly is the idiot who thinks that Barack and Michelle can support and attend for a quarter of a century the rabidly racist church of Jeremiah oh so wrong Wright and come out as the most race inclusive first couple ever.

A white who was a member of a white country club would be excoriated, defamed, excluded, branded a bigot, publicly scorned and humiliated but a black couple whose church fermently espoused that blacks are captives in this white racist nation which is designed to kill and/or imprison blacks are hailed as the great example of black's striving for racial harmony.

The Obama's will say, do, believe and spout anything that will enhance their power. When your only belief is in your own ability to make heaven on earth you are at the apex of self delusion and will without a shadow of a doubt turn this country into an immoral cesspool of me first.


Is not a community organizer someone who preaches that you are a victim of a racist society and the government owes you everything? Did Barack turn south Chicago into an earthly Eden or is it still the same hellhole as when he started?

JAG-CA
Well Said!! All four parts of your Comments speak to the Heart of the matter!!
It is incomprehensible to me that anybody can believe it reasonable that because NO persons of a particular race/ethnicity scored high enough to qualify, even minimally, on a given test that said test be totally disregarded..I am TOTALLY against Affirmative Action after all the years of questionable effectiveness and Reverse Discrimination cannot EVER be an acceptable solution!! No place for this "Latina" on the Supreme Court. CHEERS

Interesting Read
In case anyone is interested there is an article in NYT Sunday June 7 "For Sotomayor and Thomas, Paths Fork at Race and Identity", by John Kantor and David Gonzalez. (Google by title or authors). It's a comparison of how Sonia Sotomayor and Clarence Thomas, both accepted at top colleges with help from Affirmative Action, took different ways of countering the prejudices they met. Doesn't take sides.

To Scott
re "If Sotomayor had been nominated by a Republican she would have been Borked." But Sotomayor WAS nominated by a Republican, George HW Bush. He nominated her in 1992 to the US District Court and she was confirmed.

lilly - but you didn't answer...


lilly writes: “To Scott - re ‘If Sotomayor had been nominated by a Republican she would have been Borked.’ But Sotomayor WAS nominated by a Republican, George HW Bush.”


Hi lilly,

Please allow me to clarify: If Sotomayor had been nominated TO THE SUPREME COURT by a Republican, she would have been “Borked” and withdrawn the moment her racist comments surfaced on video.”


As you well know, there is a much greater level of scrutiny required for a person who is considered for a lifetime appointment on the United States Supreme Court.

After her initial appointment to the U.S. Southern District Court of New York in 1992, she was then appointed by Slick William to the U.S. 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals in 1998.

Now she is being considered for a LIFETIME appointment to the HIGHEST COURT in the land. She would only be nominated by a Republican president at this point in her career if she held a *strict constructionist* view of the U.S. Constitution. This would make her an enemy of the Left (“Liberals would have loved Obama to nominate an extreme liberal” - lilly), and the Left would take advantage of any opportunity to oppose her.

She would be attacked first for being Roman Catholic, but she would not have survived the surfacing of racist comments on videotape. You know it, and so does everyone else. It would be plastered on the front page of the NYT, above the fold, every day, until her nomination was withdrawn.


~~~


I have answered your post, will you answer mine?


Do you denounce racism and double-standards without exception?

Or are you a proponent of “Animal Farm” style racism, where all people are equal, but some people (due to race or sex or ethnicity) are *more equal* than others?


lilly - your 'no answer' speaks volumes


It was such an easy question, too, lilly. I knew you couldn't do it, though.

And that says it all.
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