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Sunday, May 31, 2009
Steve Chapman :: Townhall.com Columnist
Sotomayor's Aversion to Impartiality
by Steve Chapman
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The chief blot on Sonia Sotomayor's otherwise stellar professional record is a comment she made deprecating the capabilities of any judge lacking a Y chromosome and Iberian ancestry.

"I would hope," she said in a 2001 lecture on law and multicultural diversity, "that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life."

The question for her supporters is: How do we spin that? It's not sufficient grounds to reject her nomination, given her excellent credentials. But it's still an embarrassment.

One possible way to handle it is a mea culpa by the nominee. She could say, "Let me explain what I meant to say," or "I used to believe that, but I now realize I was mistaken," or "Oh, man -- what was I thinking?" Any of those tactics would defuse the controversy and allow the debate to proceed to a topic more advantageous to her.

Maybe when she gets to her confirmation hearing, Sotomayor will disavow the remark. But her supporters are taking another tack. They say this criticism is unfair, because critics have taken the quotation out of context and grossly distorted her meaning.

Sotomayor, they point out, also said judges "must not deny the differences resulting from experience and heritage but attempt, as the Supreme Court suggests, continuously to judge when those opinions, sympathies and prejudices are appropriate."

Her allies have a point. Anyone who reads the whole speech will indeed find that her comment wasn't as bad as it sounds. It was worse.

What is clear from the full text is that her claim to superior insight was not a casual aside or an exercise in devil's advocacy. On the contrary, it fit neatly into her overall argument, which was that the law can only benefit from the experiences and biases that female and minority judges bring with them.

She clearly thinks impartiality is overrated. "The aspiration to impartiality is just that -- it's an aspiration because it denies the fact that we are by our experiences making different choices than others," she declared, a bit dismissively. She doesn't seem to think it's terribly important to try to meet the aspiration.

That's apparent from the context. She said, "Whether born from experience or inherent physiological or cultural differences, a possibility I abhor less or discount less than my colleague Judge (Miriam) Cedarbaum, our gender and national origins may and will make a difference in our judging."

In more succinct terms: Sotomayor does not mind, and may even prefer, that the outcomes of cases are affected by the gender and race of the judge (at least when the judge is not white and male).

Judge Cedarbaum, she noted, "believes that judges must transcend their personal sympathies and prejudices and aspire to achieve a greater degree of fairness and integrity based on the reason of law." Does Sotomayor share that noble sentiment? Not entirely.

"Although I agree with and attempt to work toward Judge Cedarbaum's aspiration, I wonder whether achieving that goal is possible in all or even in most cases. And I wonder whether by ignoring our differences as women or men of color we do a disservice both to the law and society" (my emphasis). Which comes alarmingly close to saying: It's impossible for female and minority judges to overcome their biases, and it would be a shame if they did.

Underlying all this is Sotomayor's suspicion that white male judges are bound to treat minorities and women unfairly. She pointed out that "wise men like (Justice) Oliver Wendell Holmes and Justice (Benjamin) Cardozo voted on cases which upheld both sex and race discrimination in our society. Until 1972, no Supreme Court case ever upheld the claim of a woman in a gender discrimination case."

Sotomayor didn't seem to notice the damage she had just done to her own argument. The Supreme Court that upheld that gender discrimination claim was composed of nine men -- just as the court that ordered an end to racial segregation in public schools was all-white.

The court that upheld affirmative action by public universities had only one black member. There were no women on the court that found constitutional protection for abortion rights.

Right or wrong, the justices in those cases clearly strove to put aside their narrow personal interests and uphold the fundamental principles of the Constitution as best they could. Most Americans, most lawyers and most judges, I would guess, believe that's exactly what judges should do. Why doesn't Sonia Sotomayor?

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Because She is a Racist
La Raza

What does their logo say?

It says, for Latinos, Everything, For all others, Nothing.

NICE JUICY RACIST SENTIMENT.

JUST WHAT WE NEED IN AN OBAMA DICTATORSHIP: A RACIST SUPREME COURT.

ROWDY BOOTS

Impartiality is overrated
Of course nine white male judges did the right thing. Accidents happen. Everyone knows that the elite are a minority, so it must be true that when a member of the minority comes to power that whatever is done must be better.

The part that I do not understand is to what minority that Judge Sotomayor belongs. Females are at least 50% of the population. Hispanics are a subset of white, like Italian or Irish.

So what minority is she part of I wonder?

Good Job, Steve...

But we must not merely focus on the issue of her defined sense of racial bias.

Remember in the overall context of all this...She sees herself as a POLICY-MAKER!!

That is even MORE PROBLEMATIC than her self-defined racial bias.

On the Supreme Court she's likely to fancy herself A RACIALLY BIASED POLICY-MAKING Justice.

She's not one-dimensional in her pompous elitism.

One side is racial.

The other side is criminal.

the outcome of racism
I grew up in both the South and New England. A curious upbringing. I saw the results of the two societies' choices regarding racism and free markets.

The South was racist and paternalistic into the 1980s. They had an economy, rich, middle class and poor. Pretty much like everywhere else. On the surface. Just below the surface, the South lacked opportunity and freedom. The restraints on Negros turned into restraints on Whites.

As racism and paternalism in the South declined, the economy improved. I also watched as the North East became stilted with racism and paternalism through socialism and politically correct restrictions. That economy declined.

Money and energy flowed from New England to the South. THe flow is gentle and slowly growing.

The Sotomayer model predicts that money will flow from the USA to another place where money is free to grow because innovators are celebrated.

My official USA residence is in Boston. My real place of business is in the Caribbean. Here, I am free to innovate and keep the rewards of success. I must also pay the bill for failure! I am careful and moving forward. Judge Sotomayer's evaluators: ... pay attention!

Sonia Pick Defines Barack
Ms. Parker, meet Steve Chapman.

It seems that Sonia Sotomayor has two major biases in her life that affect her decision making: She's a woman and a minority Hispanic in a country traditionally run by WASP males.

But as Rush says, she is a great exemplar of what the President is all about. He is a bi-racial leader in a country that once enslaved his wife's ancestors.

It's not Morning in America, courtesy of Ronald Reagan, any more: It's Get Even Time in America now, courtesy of Barack Obama and his Supreme Court pick!

Are We Overstating Our Case?
While I certainly do not condone Sotomayor's statements on race, I think many conservative commentators (including Chapman) are taking this too far. The point has been made; stop harping on it and making it more than it is. The more I learn about her, the more I see that we could do much worse. Her record closely matches that of the current Supreme Court, and would virtually retain the status quo by replacing Souter. Conservative Senators should certainly question her about the issues, but unless she makes a huge faux pas under questioning, she will certainly be nominated. And I will be relieved that a much worse candidate was not chosen.

Chapman's Credibility
Mr. Chapman's argument might be more credible if he had not goofed up in the first sentence. The first sentence reads: "The chief blot on Sonia Sotomayor's otherwise stellar professional record is a comment she made deprecating the capabilities of any judge lacking a Y chromosome and Iberian ancestry." Although I am a little weak at Biology, I am sure males have the Y chromosome; therefore, Chapman is saying that Sotomayor is "deprecating the capabilities of any [female] judge." One word makes a difference.

I think Mr. Chapman is entitled to his opinion, and I agree with much of what he says (although what he says has been said many times before), but that mistake at the beginning does not go over well. If he wishes people to take what he writes seriously, he needs to be a little more careful.

Sandy makes a very interesting point.
Two of my grand-daughters have as their other grandpa a gentleman who was born in Puerto Rico..the only difference in him and MY grandfather is he speaks Spanish and mine spoke Italian...both are white Americans first and always put their country and ALL citizens first.

Sotomayor appears to be someone with an inferiority complex who sees herself as an agent for more identity politics, just like her boss and like he, she thinks she is better than others which makes her arrogant.

She recognizes that without riding the affirmative action bus, she wouldn't have been able to find her way OUT of the Bronx.

Those who know her say she is nasty, rude and bullying, not attributes one wants in a SC judge or any other.

People like that resort to those tactics because they know they can't cut it otherwise....this nominee isn't worthy of that seat and being reversed 60% of the time proves she isn't intellectually up to the job on any level.

ILDuce, instead of declaring this country to finally be color blind as MLK advocated and died for, he constantly pushes to divide us even more, the New Haven case makes that point, whoever gets the highest grade makes the cut...if it's all whites tough, all blacks tough..next time study harder, it's the real American way.

Here We Go Again
I am still finding hard to understand why folks keep talking about Sotomayor's "excellent credentials" (as the author of this piece has) and others who go on and on about her "qualifications" and the like.

It would seem to me, that this line of thinking about qualifications and such -- is part of what has gotten us in the mess we're in now.

There are no "qualifications" to be a Supreme Court Justice -- just as there are no "qualifications" for Americans all across the country to sit on juries every day. Why did the Founders require no "qualifications" for someone to be on the Supreme Court? I would suggest, that it was because the Supreme Court was to be little more than a jury of nine people who hear an argument, refer to the Constitution - which is so simple that anyone could understand it - then make a decision.

But it has long been, that the Court has is stacked with all the legal-beagles who have made a career out of parsing words and stumbling over one another to see who can find all the "nuanced" meanings of things. And because of this, the Constitution has become nothing more than a board game for Judges and lawyers to match wits with.

To heck with Sotomayor's "qualifications" -- the Supreme Court needs Justices with honor, integrity and respect for our laws. Other than that, the job itself would seem quite simple.

Chapman:
How do we spin that? It's not sufficient grounds to reject her nomination, given her excellent credentials. But it's still an embarrassment.

****
Ok, so it's an embarrassment, but it is also most likely the truth.

Terry
I am glad to hear that there are no particular
qualifications for the Supreme Court. I guess
that means that Obama, who graduated from law
school, but never took the law exam, can become
a Supreme Court Judge once his 8 years are up.

sotomayor
If women are so smart, why did it take so long for them to be able to vote?

Mayby it's what they were created for?

How is it different?
"When I get a case about discrimination, I have to think about people in my own family who suffered discrimination because of their ethnic background or because of religion or because of gender. And I do take that into account." - Supreme Court Justice Alito in his confirmation hearings

Tammy
There have been no qualifications to be a Supreme Court Justice since 1789 -- you're just now hearing about it?

Jerseyvet
It's not Morning in America, courtesy of Ronald Reagan, any more: It's Get Even Time in America now, courtesy of Barack Obama and his Supreme Court pick!

****
Tell me if I am wrong: Time to get even is far
more a right wing thing and always has been.
I remember Newt Gingrich going balistic when
Clinton stole many of the Republican's stands
and made them his own. I remember Ken Starr
who spent $72 million of taxpayers' money
trying to kick Clinton out of office. Has
Obama tried to send Bush and Cheney to jail
yet?

I'm just waiting to see what the Republican
Party plans to spend that $72 million on this
time. Will it be the birth certificate?
I think that has finally been laid to rest, but you never know. Will they try to steal
his college records (for whatever good that
will do them), will they try to prove that his
father was someone other than the Kenyan guy?
Will they try to prove that he is taken lovers
throughout his life? There is something
they will at least attempt to dig up and try
to ruin his career.

But Obama doesn't rattle easily. He answers
a question once and then moves on. So Good
Luck

Terry:
There have been no qualifications to be a Supreme Court Justice since 1789 -- you're just now hearing about it?

*****
Wouldn't say that I have never heard about it
before. I just never paid any attention because
I believe everyone on the court, at least now,
is a lawyer. Never heard anyone say they weren't.

Chapman
"Sotomayor's Aversion to Impartiality"

Wow does that ever sound like lawyer or
right-wing reporter talk!!!

Aversion to impartiality is just a tad bit
strong, wouldn't you think?

Tammy
No, I've never heard anyone say that they're not lawyers either.

Steve Chapman writes:
It's not sufficient grounds to reject her nomination, given her excellent credentials.

"I would hope," she said in a 2001 lecture on law and multicultural diversity, "that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life."
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This statement would get her dismissed from Jury Duty.

Yet you support her to be the Judge all the while she is unqualified for Jury Duty?

Who pays you?
Who you working for?

About Sotomeyer's quote
eah, I saw that quote from Clarence Thomas during his pre-appointment hearings that he could bring empathy to African American issues because he was black.

Funny, I don't remember one conservative being offended then.

When Alito said that he would bring a personal perspective to immigration issues because his parents were immigrants, I don't remember even one columnist on TH sucking it's teeth and wagging it's fat little fingers then.

When O'Connor said that being female would bring a different sensibility to cases involving women's rights, nobody, but nobody was horrified.

Seems empathy is just great when its conservative empathy. (Now there's an oxymoron if I ever heard one, but since conservative judges swear by it, it must be true, just like virgin birth).

Lie
matter of fact writes:

12:02 PM EST
About Sotomeyer's quote
eah, I saw that quote from Clarence Thomas during his pre-appointment hearings that he could bring empathy to African American issues because he was black.
=======================
Find the quote from Justice Thomas.

"empathy to African American issues because he was black"

First thing is ..to have empathy is not only good, its normal.

Empathy itself is not the problem with Sotomayor.

Her empathy is exclusive, which is bias.

To have empathy for humans beings is good.

To have bias against a skin tone is racist and not good.
To have bias against the gender of a human being is sexist and hypocritical.

To belong to a racist organization that is nothing less than a Mexican KKK is outrageous.

This woman is not qualified for Jury Duty, let alone being a Supreme Court Justice

HUH?
Stellar professional record? Put the bong down and back slowly away Steve.

Talent Scout
You know, this is the first post of yours that I was actually reading, because I found it an interesting point of view (go figure!)

Unfortunately, your characterization of La Raza as the KKK, a meme culled from one of the lesser admired members of congress, made me realize that you are still living among stereotype, misinformation, and fear.

One's world should expland, not contract.

Tell me matter of fact
Why you would resort to accusing me of fear?

La Raza speaks for itself, its means "the" race.

It is every bit as racist as the KKK.

Takes no more courage to call the KKK racist and it takes to call La Raza racist.

Lay off the accusations if you care to communicate.

What I said about qualifications for Jury Duty is 100 percent correct.

No person would be allowed on any Jury with such views on race as this woman has

matter of fact
You said:
"One's world should expland, not contract"

Tell that to Sotomayor

Would Obama be favorable
To an appointment of a judge who said this?

'my experience as a white man makes me better than a latina woman'

Would the democrats be focused on his empathy?
Dismissing this statement in quotes?

Of course they wouldn't, neither would the rest of the nation.

We do not want such people in positions of such power as a Life Time Appointment to the Superior Court.

She has already undermined confidence in her ability and no one is big enough to cover for her.
No one

Well Stated Talent Scout
"A wise white man with the richness of his experience and legacy would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a black or latina woman that had not lived that life!"

Yes indeed the liberals of this country would hang any conservative white male who made such a vile and stupid claim from the nearest lamppost.

The man would not be able to walk the streets of this country without an armed escort. He would suffer the same fate as a car parked in Berkeley with a "OneBigAssMistakeAmerica" on the rear bumper ie. defaced beyond all recognition.

This one comment would forever more make him a leper who must live his life as an outcast.

Sotomayor makes a very analogous statement and is promoted to the SCOTUS.

Sotomayor's Unwise Yapper
Sotomayor has zero wisdom when it comes to opening that yapper of hers...should that be a consideration?

http://jeannie-ology.com/?p=2138

Sonia needs answer some questions
Is her brand of justice better than white man's justice because she is "wise" or a "woman" or a "Latina"?

Is it a combination of all three that in her mind makes her that extra special person who can dispense more better justice?

When the constitution says equal protection does that guarantee that homosexuals can redefine marriage so that their feelings are not offended? Does equal protection mean that healthcare in a right, that abortion must be available on demand, that blacks must pass tests, own homes, enter college and be incarcerated in the same ratio as whites?

Did OJ get away with murder?

Inquiring minds want to know!


Is It Important?
Let us say that Brady of Brady Bill fame, was a nominee for the Supreme Court. Now that is a person, who really was affected by his life experience, having been shot and crippled when the attampt was made on Reagan's life. Would we want to know how he might rule on a case involving the 2nd Amendment? Would it be important to know that his "life experience" would not affect how he would rule on the 2nd amendmant?

Typical--
To us here, this latina thing is typical la raza manure. It is racist, pure and simple. All one has to do is read the la raza book that was first put out years ago.
Dingle Barry needs to select another nominee.

Think about this choice by obama
Why would he pick such a divisive person?

Understanding who this man is explains it.
He has nothing but contempt for the Constitution and the Rule of Law.

There is no other explanation for such an appointment as this woman is, an extremist herself by an arrogance of her own race and gender.

Only a man who wants division and not unity would appoint someone of her ideology and agenda.

Its saying America has no Judges in all the land today that just abide by the law itself and Judge each case according to the written law.

This is saying it is not even a requirement any longer for a Judge to live up to their own oath of office.

According to Title 28, Chapter I, Part 453 of the United States Code, each Supreme Court Justice takes the following oath:

"I, [NAME], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will administer justice without respect to persons, and do equal right to the poor and to the rich, and that I will faithfully and impartially discharge and perform all the duties incumbent upon me as [TITLE] under the Constitution and laws of the United States. So help me God."

This is who the obama wants
quote:
La Raza was condemned in 2006 by former U.S. Rep. Charles Norwood, R-Ga., as a radical "pro-illegal immigration lobbying organization that supports racist groups calling for the secession of the western United States as a Hispanic-only homeland."

Norwood urged La Raza to renounce its support of the Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan – which sees "the Race" as part of an ethnic group that one day will reclaim Aztlan, the mythical birthplace of the Aztecs. In Chicano folklore, Aztlan includes California, Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico and parts of Colorado and Texas.

http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=99563

This racist woman has no place in the Justice System, including the office she now holds.

She is as anti America in belief of equal rights as any other racist

The Dangers of Judicial Empathy
"When I get a case about discrimination, I have to think about people in my own family who suffered discrimination because of their ethnic background or because of religion or gender. And I do take that into account." ---Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito, at his confirmation hearing.

Chapman's an idiot
"The question for her supporters is: How do we spin that? It's not sufficient grounds to reject her nomination, given her excellent credentials. But it's still an embarrassment."

Her whole record is one of racial bias, clumsily expressed. Her opinions are so un-based and in any law and embarrassing that they were mostly reversed and even criticized by her own fellow democrat appointees.

She is essentially a leftist hack trying to advance the fascist agenda from the bench. When in doubt, the Obamanites were tell her how to vote.

If anyone thought a sitting jurist on the SCOTUS could get any worse than Ginzberg, Soso resolves all doubt.

Her biased conduct wouldn't even pass must to become a juror let alone jurist. She doesn't even meet the ABA's test for impartiality.


'Excellent credentials' indeed! Member of racist La Raza, graduate of Yale law - home of constitutionally destructive, Marxist pseudo law where the Obamapukes and Clintonitas came from and author of several racially repugnant case reversals.

Chapman's attempt to make this turrd smell sweet reeks.

Talent Scout
Suppose Justice Thomas had said:

"I would hope, that a wise Black Man with the richness of his experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life."

Not only would the left have savaged him, but our side would have rejected him as well. Why? Because we value impartiality in a SCOTUS justice - we do not want biased hacks.

The left has no such concern as we can clearly see by this Soso choice.

Anybody See Specter's Take on This?
If you are curious as to why you are seeing Specter all over this subject, here is the likely answer! http://theblacksphere.blogspot.com/2009/05/colin-powell-pr ison-tale.html

Have FUN!

Talent Scout
matter of fact
You said: "One's world should expland, not contract"

Tell that to Sotomayor
___________________

Excellent rebuttal - just from what I've read of her at school, the more she was forced to expand her horizons educationally, the more she reverted to a Latin-centrist view.

Her scholastic, case writing, and organizations joined indicates she left-thinks in terms of groups - not individuals. Take the fireman case: not even the fact that one of the fireman denied promotion was Latino swayed her from supporting the racist, plantation mentality position.

For all of those who naively thought that the Obamanation was going to sew racial healing within the society, this is your answer.

To Jerseyvet
I understand from your post that you are concerned about fairness on the court.

Gender: The Supreme Court has had 110 judges. 108 of them have been males. Half the population of this country is female. Is that fair representation? Is it credible that no qualified woman could be found to serve? Do you think it's appropriate for G Gordon Liddy to make comments about Judge Sotomayor's menstrual cycle?

Age: An article in the NYT 5-31 points out that older men (on the Court or anywhere) have typically not had the same workplace experience with professionally co-equal minorities that younger men have had and that their rulings reflect this lack of contact, rather than their impartiality.

Ethnicity: Of a total of 110 justices on the Court, 2 have been African-American. There has never been a Hispanic, popularly defined as deriving from nations in Central or South America where the Spanish language is spoken; Benjamin Cardozo, born in 1870, was the grandson of Sephardic Jews who had immigrated here before the American Revolution.

If, for 225 years, our nation has carefully reviewed the qualifications and credentials of potential Justices and has concluded 99% of the time that the most qualified are those who just happen to belong to the ruling social majority, which has historically been older white males, demonstrably have been out of touch with the lives of the very people whose issues they are judging, don't you find that at least suspicious? As Justice Thurgood Marshall said of his fellow Justices, "What do they know about Negroes?"

How Judges Rule
Google "The Waves Minority Judges Always Make" by Adam Liptak, in NYT 5-31-09. It looks not at the rulings of minority judges but on the effect their mere presence on a court has on OTHER judges' rulings. In those cases you can count numbers rather than draw subjective conclusions. In a 2005 study, the presence of a female judge on the court was found to be catalytic for male judges' finding for the plaintiff in gender-discrimination cases. Another study: "When a white judge sits on a panel with at least one African-American judge, he/she becomes roughly 20 percentage points more likely to find a voting rights violation".

So much for judicial impartiality.

Puerto Rican Justice?
Sotomayor is a racist. That cannot be disputed. America has for many decades, though, allowed, encouraged, and condoned reverse racism in the work place, at educational institutions, and anywhere and everywhere the government exists in America, which is anywhere and everywhere.

Sotomayor's racism is being minimized. Why? Because she has a compelling life story? What does having a compelling life story have to do with her qualifications to sit as a justice of SCOTUS?

One day, maybe, white America, or what is left of it, will get angry enough to fight for, not privilege status in America, but for equal protection under the law, which is supposedly a Constitutional right - just like abortion.

What needs to be discussed though, is the now widely known fact that not even one black fire fighter in Connecticut was smart enough, or industrious enough, to pass the promotion test, which was specially designed to make it easier for blacks and other minorities to pass. How is this possible?

The question has to be asked. Are black fire fighter's in Connecticut too stupid to pass a specially designed promotion test?

But not to worry. Racist, affirmative action judge Sotomayor will see to it that only stupid Americans will get promoted in America or NONE will get promoted at all.

Sotomayor's self-styled "Latina wisdom" dishes out justice that can only be concocted in the mind of a corrupt, racist, affirmative action, hack judge, and her equally corrupt, racist, affirmative action sponsor - B. Hussein O.

If Sotomayor gets to sit her "wise" Latina butt on the bench of the Supreme Court, then all white people ought to draw a bulls-eye on their back, because it will be open hunting season on white America under this regime.

BY THE WAY ... WHERE'S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?

Good deal
lilly write:- 3:52 PM EST
The Dangers of Judicial Empathy
"When I get a case about discrimination, I have to think about people in my own family who suffered discrimination because of their ethnic background or because of religion or gender. And I do take that into account." ---Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito, at his confirmation hearing.
=======================

Maybe he will have some empathy for the white fire fighters who this racist Sotomayor discriminated against.

I have lots of empathy for them myself, having to hear some crack pot racist like Sotomayor twist the law and justice to her racist unconstitutional views


USPatriot56
I have an idea white America and us who have Native American Blood are tired of black and brown racists just like everyone finally got tired of white racists.

We did not fight white racism to hand racism over to another skin tone.

Obama is using race intentionally to divide, he knows thsi woman can never bring unity.
He is a racist pig himself

the hypocrisy of the Left

The left vilified Clarence Thomas (he was seen as a heretic black because he believed in judicial restraint-- that legislatures should indeed make laws).

They led by (Teddy the Driver Kennedy) disemboweled Bork (one of the most brilliant candidates EVER) because he believed in upholding the Constitution, NOT in wanton judicial activism based on "empathy and feelings."

The ObaMessiah voted against both Alito and Roberts notwithstanding their sterling qualifications because they were NOT liberal activists trying to legislate from the bench.

Now the Left will howl if Soto is even questioned about her loaded, biased statements. Her comment about Latina judges being better than white guys was from a written, prepared text... she even admitted that it was foolish to say it publicly. She was not the least bit sorry that she said it-- but may now be a little bit sorry that it is on tape to reveal her CLEAR biases.

A fair observer might hope that opponents will NOT roll over for her... attentive Americans deserve to see her explain her biases before she moves on to the court to distort justice.

Please copy and send to Sens.
Judge Sonia Sotomayor is unfit to serve on the Supreme Court of the United States because she sees herself as a political activist first and a jurist second. In a speech in California in 2001 she disparaged white male judges,

saying, "I would hope that a wise Latino woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion (as a judge) than a white male who hasn't lived that life."

In a current case from the New Haven, Connecticut, fire department, Sotomayor has ruled from the appellant court that job applicants' loss of promotion after succeeding on a test designed to be race neutral was "thorough, thoughtful, and well reasoned," because no black applicant had achieved an acceptable score. That seventeen (17) "white" test takers had succeeded, including ONE HISPANICS, the test was thrown out by the officials in New Haven and no promotions granted to anyone.

Such activism shows Sotomayor is less interest in minority success than enforcing that success by any means FROM THE BENCH.

On the Second Amendment, Sotomayor is anti-gun as revealed in "the right to possess a gun is clearly not a fundamental right" (US v Sanchez-Villar, 2004).

This opinion is exactly opposite of the recent US Court ruling supporting an earlier verdict in Washington,, DC, that affirmed the right to bear arms as fundamental as any rights enumerated in any other amendment in the Bill of Rights.

Sotomayor was only following her own philosophy that appellant courts are where "policy is made", which she claimed at Duke University in 2005.

This Obama nominee, as with many others, is out of step with Main Street America, out of step with Supreme Court rulings, and not qualified on her legal history or personal beliefs to be a Supreme Court justice. That she is of Puerto Rican descent and struggled to make her position in life is immaterial.


20 years ago I would have said
Sotomayor deserves her shot, deserves to be heard, and deserves to be voted on merit.

Since then, the Dems. and left have treated every Rep. judicial nomination starting with Bork as a gauntlet whereby the candidate has been slandered, hassled, degraded, and metaphorically dismembered.

Alito had papers from his freshman year in college *analyzed.*

Harriet Meyers was treated like she was the maid.

Bork, considered one of the greatest legal minds of our time, was trashed until he withdrew his name.

Sotomayor should be treated no less thoroughly or gently.

Let her twist in the wind.

I would not give her a pass on her words in or out of context or her *decisions* which she does not support with legal documentation or her speeches and bragging about her superiority--these should all be exposed as the professional hooey they are.

Bork Sotomayor.

To talent scout
I hear your anger that all the tests were thrown out in the Ricci case, but do you think that Ricci was any great loss, really? According to online article, he got Ds all through high school was occupying some kind of lowly position doing scut work at the fire department. The test presented such a challenge to him that he had to study for it for, what, a year, and buy special study matierials. He was taking a test to try and get promoted to a more important job in fire-fighting---and then he barely passed the test.

TS, if my house were on fire I'd just as soon have a smart fireman show up on the hook & ladder as somebody who doesn't seem to have been playing with a full deck and would have to study for a year to figure out what to do. Schools are full of people who have ambitions beyond their capability and we've all had the experience of working with a well-meaning dope who couldn't carry his or her share of the workload and the rest of us had to take up the slack.

I know that some of you say this happens all the time with minority people who have been advanced by Affirmative Action, but it also happens all the time because the dope in question is related to the boss or, like Ricci, just keeps plugging. And a plugger is not always the brightest bulb. Do you want your surgery done by a really sweet guy who graduated last in his class at medical school?

Absolutely horrible attitude lilly
lilly writes:

- 7:44 PM EST
To talent scout
I hear your anger that all the tests were thrown out in the Ricci case, but do you think that Ricci was any great loss, really?
======================

Great loss?
Unreal

To him it was crushing and if you or this racist judge had any empathy for your fellow citizens you would never ask such a question.

This is about protecting everyone's rights, including white me.

If the Court refuses to deliver their sworn duty, there is no other place to seek redress for a grievance except rebellion.
Peaceful or otherwise.
No one wants a rebellion we want the Courts to uphold the Rights of all Citizens, INCLUDING THESE WHITE MEN.

I despised the white racist, but I also despise black and brown racists just as much


You are one nasty woman yourself lilly
Lilly writes:

TS, if my house were on fire I'd just as soon have a smart fireman show up on the hook & ladder as somebody who doesn't seem to have been playing with a full deck and would have to study for a year to figure out what to do.
======================

And just think you arrogant old nut, he was smarter than all the blacks who took the test.

So instead of getting the smartest fireman, you will get a very stupid black one

lilly even mocks those with handicaps
Lilly writes:

TS, if my house were on fire I'd just as soon have a smart fireman show up on the hook & ladder as somebody who doesn't seem to have been playing with a full deck and would have to study for a year to figure out what to do.
===================

How many distortions of fact can one find in this lilly writes?

1. Playing with a full deck.
2. Have to study for a year to know what to do.

1.A
Medical Encyclopedia: Dyslexia
Dyslexia is not a disease, but describes rather a different kind of mind that learns in a different way from other people. Many people with the condition are gifted and very productive; dyslexia is not at all linked to low intelligence. In fact, intelligence has nothing to do with dyslexia.

http://www.answers.com/dyslexia

2 A
The test was for Promotion to Lieutenant.

He had been doing the job of fire fighting for several years.

The willingness to distort and belittle this man to favor a bigot latina woman is all you are doing.

Seeing people like you who support this racist and bigot is all the more reason to stop her, or the nation will suffer from such open bigotry and racism being promoted.

You are no better than any KKK member lilly, not is this Sotomayor herself

reply to vacuous lilly

re:
lilly Location: IL
Reply # 8
Date: May 31, 2009 - 7:21 PM EST
To oracle
Do you people just cut and paste each other's postings????? Or do you post the same crap under different names?

Sotomayor doesn't need a birth certificate to prove that she is an American citizen because people who aren't stupid already know that since 1917 anyone born in Puerto Rico IS an American citizen. Are you the same genius who yesterday suggested that maybe her parents were illegal aliens?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The question about birth certificate probably alludes to the ObaMessiah's legitimacy... he has been conspicuously surreptitious about various personal issues, as libs with a stratagem are wont to do.

For example, unlike AlGore, Kerry (nee Cohen) and Dubya, the Chosen One has not disclosed his standardized test scores-- could that be because they would reveal AA?

He was selected for Law Review at Harvard (which is VERY PC), but a reading of his limited writings there conspicuously underwhelms compared to peers.

And then there was Michelle's $400,000 hospital "consulting" job, though there was no background for that. Hmmm.

Wow, it takes 6 hours...
Wow, it takes 6 hours for someone to notice Mr. Chapman's error in his first sentence. Kudos to Nowhere Man, comment #9 at 8:38 AM! (Of course, at issue could be these articles are posted at night when people could be too sleepy to miss the obvious. For those who missed it, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_sex-determination_system

As one can clearly read, men have X-Y chromosomes whereas women have X-X (this explains why men are more balanced than women; in other words, why women are unbalanced and Sotomayor in particular.) [FYI, the previous comments are stinging, yet humorous, satire; one SHOULD be able to tell by their outrageous nature.]

Tammy from IL: you DO know that you don't need to insert all the line feeds(AKA carriage returns), right? The text you type IS stored as HTML and will therefore be displayed correctly without all the hard breaks (note how the others' posts are displayed).

SVARA from TX: "Dingle Barry"...precious, simply precious! I WILL have to remember that one!

Lilly from IL: I'd tell you to read some REAL history books but I see that you're not qualified; you can't even read TH blogs correctly. To say that Mr. Ricci, scoring 6th out of 77 test as barely passing the test is below even Ted Kennedy (fine race driver that he is.) Dyslexia is a learning dysfunction, in case you hadn't heard, and does not make him a "dope".

Nice riposte, Talent Scout
Touche! (I thing Lilly is really Dingle Barry's wife in disguise.) BTW, I do capitalize Lilly's name even though she does not; I don't think she's one of those curious BD/SM "submissives"; I think she didn't know where the Shift key was when she set up her account.

ObaMassah uniting Whites?
ObaMassah's selection of Sotomayor, the racist judge, for justice of the Supreme Court may actually unite white people just like his murderous pro-abortion policy has energized the pro-life movement.

Many white people have white children who may need jobs in the future - some may even want to be fire fighters, or go to college. These white people may begin to vote their race just as blacks do ALL THE TIME...

As much as I have always admired and cherised Martin L. King's famous sentiment that we should judge people by the content of their character not the color of their skin ...

it is becoming increasingly obvious that racist minorities like ObaMassah and Sotomayor are willing to use King's words to justify their racism.

If Sotomayor is sppointed to the SCOTUS then I feel that white peopole have every right and in fact may find it necessary to unite on the basis of race.

Blacks and Hispanics do it all the time.

Self preservation may demand it.
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oracle1@9:37 PM EST
I can't see the "vacuous lilly" post to which you refer (Reply # 8, Date: May 31, 2009 - 7:21 PM EST). Did a post of her's get deleted? Perhaps this was a cross-post? (I suspect she's a paid troll judging by her wit and breadth of postings.)

In any case, your reply shows admirable vocabulary and style. Have you considered writing professionally? If you don't already do so, please consider it, at the very least create your own blog here at TH.

Oh Please
If Obama appointed Jesus you wingnuts would find something wrong with him. Her record of inpartiality and non-activism is open for all to see. This crap about empathy being bad is just that crap.

Anyway, she is gonna get appointed so stop all the drama.

JAG CA
What a joke, you conservatives feel like your individual freedoms are being so violated if the government passes a rule says you have to have a gun lock. But yet you are just fine with the government telling people who they can and cannot marry. You are all about states rights but when in the New Haven Case the panel rules based upon the authority of the local municiplilty to make its own decision you are all bent out of shape. The real activists on the court are the conservative majority.

Re: Impartial?
The judge seems to ignore the fact that she received an honor that was not deserved. She gained this honor only because she was a minority. The faux valedictorian is, pardon me, a fraud. Only a fraud would accept an honor she well knew was not deserved. But, doesn't this define the entire issue? Have nots always want what others achieve, without the pain?

Sonia Sotomayor's otherwise
...stellar professional record?????

What stellar record. She has been overturned over 60% of the time.

When asked....

When asked, Clarence Thomas said his life experience as a Black man will bring that particular perspective to the Court.

When asked, Sandra Day O'Connor said her life experience as a woman will bring that particular perspective to the Court.

When asked, Sotommayer said her life experience as a latino woman will result in a "better decision" than a white man.

That is Sexist. That is racists. That indicates she is unqualified to serve impartially on the Supreme Court.

Good points
Issues of differential impact on minorities should be topics argued before the court, not emanating from the court. Also, this is not the only instance of empathy (aka discrimination) from Sotomayor. Earlier she argued that capital punishment was racist.

It's not out of context
I read the entire speech. The 32 words are not taken out of context. Here are some more of her words:

"I further accept that our experiences as women and people of color affect our decisions. The aspiration to impartiality is just that--it's an aspiration because it denies the fact that we are by our experiences making different choices than others. Not all women or people of color, in all or some circumstances or indeed in any particular case or circumstance but enough people of color in enough cases, will make a difference in the process of judging."

Impartiality is an aspiration and I have no idea what the last sentence is trying to say. My eighth grade English teacher would have marked it as "run-on". But, I think she is saying that color and gender trump the law.

"Whether born from experience or inherent physiological or cultural differences, a possibility I abhor less or discount less than my colleague Judge Cedarbaum, our gender and national origins may and will make a difference in our judging."

Here she states emphatically that gender and origins will make a difference. Sorry, we need impartiality, no matter what the gender, nationality, color, creed, or religion of the judge is.

Sam Alito
said the exact same stuff during his confirmation hearings about being an immigrant, siding with the poor and minorities.

Steve Chapman
is a comment she made deprecating the capabilities of any judge lacking a Y chromosome and Iberian ancestry. "

****
This is of course an absurd comment, and shows
your own deprecation of the highly talented
person.

However, I am presently learning about a
matador being gored in Spain, so that might
make your argument a little more palatable.
I mean any culture that still has bull fighting, and then worse, has people who are dumb enough to get gored should not be represented on our sacred Supreme
Court. There is only so much a nation should
have to tolerate.

lilly is demented
From her demeaning remarks regarding the capabilities of Mr. Ricci to her remarks on another thread where she assumed that the person who shot Dr. Tiller was someone from TH is evidence of a mind in decline. She accuses the Townhall people of being capable of murder, yet she has no compunction about interacting with them on a daily basis. If I had the choice between Ricci and Lilly as a teacher, I would pick Ricci any day of the week.

Excuse me
But it's the Consitution that Sotomayor should be "aspiring" to uphold, as well as the statutes & written laws, not her own personal ideology. If she wanted to go out & uphold her ideology then she should've run for office.

Another nail in America's coffin.

not unreasonable, but falls short.
This is an interesting area where libertarians are stuck defending not dealing with reality.

Sotomayor is making the point that we are all informed by our experiences. This is true whether we are white or black or hispanic. There is a habit to take the white male experience to be the default, but this is silly and the opposite of impartiality, it is entrenched partiality.

Chapman is too realistic to deny the truth of this. But he takes for granted that the best thing to do is to strive to be impartial, although there is no particular reason given to think that this will produce impartiality. It is not like the claim is that judges are trying to be partial. It is that everybody is a result to a degree of their upbringing. Judges could try to compensate for this, but there is no reason to think this would produce impartiality rather than a different form of partiality.

This is Sotomayor's point in the quoted passages, and Chapman seems to miss it in his response. If we cannot be truly impartial, then the best way to get justice may not be to pretend that we can. It might be to try to make sure that not all of the judges are partial in the same way.

Katarina,
You nailed it, "...it's the Constitution that Sotomayor should be "aspiring" to uphold as well as the statutes & written laws, not her own personal ideology." What a concept! A supreme court judge who aspires beyond her petty desires and grievences to attain a higher calling and serve honorably ALL the citizens of the U.S. Alas, narcissism rules.

Katarina
"But it's the Consitution that Sotomayor should be "aspiring" to uphold, as well as the statutes & written laws, not her own personal ideology.

****
Tell me just exactly makes you think that she
doesn't aspire to uphold the Constitution.
Let me guess, you have been listening to
Tancredo and Rush Limbaugh. Why don't you listen to the people who have actually
worked with her.

AH
"Tammy from IL: you DO know that you don't need to insert all the line feeds(AKA carriage returns), right? The text you type IS stored as HTML and will therefore be displayed correctly without all the hard breaks (note how the others' posts are displayed)."

Yes AH, I know all about that. Except that my
computer does not work the same way. It has a
mind of its own. I blame it on the fact that
I refuse to update my computer because I still
have pf files whose last copyright date was
1985 and I have no intention of getting rid
those files, so I put up with whatever it gives me.

Tammy
I am with you on the aversion to bull fighting. I attended a bull fight in Mexico once and couldn't get out of the arena quick enough after just five minutes into it.
Just what is wrong with a country that would allow such a sport? Or, do you think it might be a Latino/Lataina thing?

the Poor Hispanics
The term Latino/a is ridiculus since it would most correctly apply to Italians since Latin culture comes from the Roman empire. True, France, Spain, Portugal and Romania now speak Latin based languages. "Hispanics" -- unlike Romanians -- built a vast worldwide empire. Most of the Americas are or were Dominated by "Hispanics" -- the dominance extended to Africa and Asia. More Indians were killed by "Hispanics" and more black Africans were enslaved by Hispanics than any other group. We see how many people today not native to Spain and Portugal speak those languages. We are supposed to feel "sorry" for this group? The Germans, Irish, Danish and Bulgarians never had power even close to the Spanish or Portuguese empires. It is fitting that Obama (whose ancestry is that of slaveholders, not slaves) selected a similarly non-discriminated against group in history and claims some kind of false "high road" of being a victim. Sotomayor came from a predominently Spanish background where many natives are of Black African heritage. Preferential treatment programs were implemented before she graduated from high school. I submit that somebody who has benefited from preferential treatment would be a worse judge.
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