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Sunday, January 18, 2009
Steve Chapman :: Townhall.com Columnist
Violating Rights, Without Tears
by Steve Chapman
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One reality of 21st-century religion is that many people treat the Ten Commandments as the Ten Suggestions, to be modified or ignored without penalty. That same spirit has infected the Supreme Court, which last week contemplated an abuse of the Bill of Rights, rolled its eyes and said: Oh, what's the big deal?

Bennie Dean Herring had gone to a sheriff's impoundment lot in Coffee County, Ala., to get some things out of his truck. A suspicious investigator checked with officials of a neighboring county to see if the ex-convict had any outstanding arrest warrants and was told he did. The investigator arrested Herring and found him in illegal possession of drugs and a gun.

But it turned out there was a problem with the arrest warrant. It had been canceled months before but was never deleted from the database. So when Herring was indicted on drug and weapon charges, his lawyer asked for the evidence to be thrown out because it came from an arrest that the sheriff had no right to make.

When presented with these facts, the Supreme Court reached two conclusions. The first was that everyone agreed the cops had violated Herring's rights. The second was that it was his tough luck. Never mind the Fourth Amendment, which forbids unreasonable searches and seizures -- he's guilty and he's going to jail.

This decision creates a new exception to the exclusionary rule, which bars evidence police obtain through an illegal search. The prohibition was meant to foster respect for constitutional requirements by giving law enforcement agents a disincentive to violate them. But Chief Justice John Roberts and four of his colleagues are happy to excuse some violations.

The exclusionary rule, said the court, "serves to deter deliberate, reckless or grossly negligent conduct, or in some circumstances recurring or systemic negligence. The error in this case does not rise to that level." On the contrary, wrote Roberts, it was but a trifle, "the result of isolated negligence."

Of course the error did rise to a fairly significant level -- since it deprived Herring of a freedom considered vital enough to be enshrined by the nation's founders. The Constitution doesn't say the government may not violate these rights except through isolated negligence. It says the government may not violate them, period.

Rights need constitutional protection because governments have a tendency to ignore them. But it takes more than a parchment dictate to force the authorities to do what they are supposed to do. It takes penalties that make violations painful to the violator.

That's where the exclusionary rule comes in. Police face constant temptations to break the rules to nab villains and put them in jail. But this rule goes far to discourage them. Violate a criminal's rights, and he may go unpunished.

That wasn't always the case. In the old days, cops paid little attention to the Fourth Amendment because they had nothing to gain by respecting it. Only when they had to pay a price for overstepping did they develop a sudden interest in staying on the right side of the constitutional line -- to the benefit of the innocent as well as the guilty. Wonder of wonders, police departments actually began training officers in how to comply with the Fourth Amendment.

After the Supreme Court imposed the rule on states and cities in 1961, New York's deputy police commissioner acknowledged as much. "Before this, nobody bothered to take out search warrants," he said. "[T]he feeling was, why bother?"

Anyone in charge of maintaining databases of arrest warrants may now be asking the same question. In fact, the court's decision creates an incentive for poor record-keeping. If Herring's warrant had been purged promptly, after all, he could not have been searched, and he would have gotten away with his offenses.

That may seem too high a price to pay. But the real objection is not to the exclusionary rule -- it's to the Fourth Amendment, since if his rights had not been violated, he would have gone free. The tradeoff between catching criminals and protecting privacy is not a daffy invention of activist liberal judges. It was the framers' whole point.

But the Supreme Court says it's fine for the government to profit when it deprives citizens of their constitutional rights through incompetence or sloth. That's like telling teenagers it's OK to get pregnant, as long as it's not on purpose.

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Exclusionary Rule
The exclusion of evidence because of illegal activity by law enforcement is a positive action, intended to cause law enforcement to obtain evidence through legal means. The "Fruit of the Poisonous Tree" application of the Exclusionary Rule came into being at a time when law enforcement wasn't too concerned with legal niceties.

In this case, while prior precedent would indicate that the evidence should be excluded, the search was not a deliberate ignoring of the 4th Amendment, but rather the result of an "innocent mistake". Neither the officers conducting the search, nor the records person who checked the computer system for outstanding wants and warrants, intended to violate the defendant's rights. To exclude the evidence, and reverse the conviction, would not further observance of the 4th Amendment proscription of illegal searches. It would not "punish" the officers involved, but it would "punish" society as a whole by freeing a person involved in criminal activity because of an innocent error on the part of the clerk and officers involved.

Others will, I'm sure, disagree. Hopefully they won't be disagreeable in their disagreement.

Unreasonable
I'm not a lawyer but I can't help wondering what those "old" warrants could have been for. Drug dealing? Armed robbery? It seems to me the very word "unreasonable" leaves so much ambiguity in the 4th amendment that a good lawyer could make a case for searching a car that was possibly used in a crime before. Seems "reasonable to me.

Zero Tolerance
The exclusionary rule is just like "Zero Tolerance." It is a rule designed by bureaucrats who are afraid of having to make difficult decisions. But isn't that what judges are paid to do? Let the judicial process and juries decide on a case by case basis whether law enforcement has crossed the line--based on the circumstances of each particular case. NOT based on some one-size-fits-all rule. And then punish the offenders if necessary--the police involved for example--and not society.

The Good Faith exception
The exclusionary rule was meant to deter police misconduct by denying them the fruits of their labors. It was imposed because no one ever actually punished the police so the Court, which cannot make laws, imposed the exclusionary rule. They have modified it since in quite respectable ways. Inevitable Discovery (I'm putting legal terms of art in caps) means if it would have been inevitably discovered legally, it was still retained. Terry Stops allow a cop to frisk a person without Probable Cause. They must have Reasonable Suspicion. They may only frisk and not search, and they are saved from maybe getting a surprise bullet in the chest. Chapman's example is Good Faith exception. If the police in good faith believe that a warrant is valid, they may keep evidence uncovered even if the warrant proves to be defective. The police did not intend to violate his rights. The Constitution only protects against unreasonable searches and seizures. If the police thought they were doing the right thing and used normal caution to make sure they were doing the right thing, I submit the search was a reasonable search. Remember the police found hard evidence. They didn't beat a confession out of him. They found real things. I'm OK with the Court's decision. (NB, though I have taken a bunch of law classes, I am not a legal professional.)

Perhaps the emphasis should be on EX
My church has been involved in jail ministry for 20-odd years, since the son of one of our elders went to jail for a drunk-driving accident. What we've discovered over the years is that many ex-convicts come out of jail fully planning to stay out of trouble, but quickly find discrimination in jobs and facing harrassment by police. A lawyer we're associated with says it's VERY common for police to pull over cars registered to ex-convicts and, yes, at least in Alaska, they flag those names. A lot of the guys we've worked with over the years have the employment skills to make good money, but they can't get jobs that make good money. So, hey, criminal activity starts to look good when your family is hungry and you can't afford decent housing for them. Yeah, you made a mistake and you paid for it with a jail sentence (which in Alaska is often longer than just about any other state), but when are you done paying? Apparently never. That elder's son has been out of jail 18 years and he's still getting turned down for jobs he's highly qualified for because he's got a criminal record. He gets pulled over an average of once of month for clearly bogus things -- last night (he told us about it this morning at church) it was because there was snow on his taillights (it happened to be snowing at the time). The cop just wanted to inform him .... It doesn't matter that he's served his sentence, that he's paid his dues in his field of employment or that he hasn't had a moving violation since he got his driver's license back 15 years ago. It only matters that 25 years ago, he messed up and nobody will let him forget it.

Admittedly,this guy in the article was breaking the law, but if he's experienced what some other supposedly ex-convicts have experienced, it's hard for those of us who know the truth to blame him much.

lemonfemale
Good post, and as another poster said the EMPhasis should be on UNREASONABLE. In this case they thought they had legitimate reason. Here is what is the real problem with the "Exclusionary Rule", instead of actually dealing with the violation, which is by law enforcement, it magically wipes away a legitimate criminal act. Can anyone tell me they honestly think that this was the intent of the framers? If someone's rights are violated then that person has recourse to go after the violators, and see that they are punished. It's not hard, but perhaps judges who have spent too much time in law school pursuing "what ifs" have had their thinking too skewed to understand plain language and real world ramifications. I was reading some of the opinions last night in McCain-Feingold(not the name under which the case is known) and to see the reasoning applied such as appearance of corruption and state interest are steps removed from what the Constitution actually directs, such as "no laws..abridging". Honestly the sophistry used by so many to impose layers of biased reasoning upon the simple statements of the Constitution end up rendering it meaningless. Is it perhaps ego in a need to seem so understanding, so erudite, so wise that drives people to actually appearing foolish in absurd renderings of judgement??

Understandable, but bad decision
I can understand that this was likely a "Good Faith" error, but that still leaves open a question addressed in the column. That is, doesn't such an incident discourage neat record keeping? I say the search should have been thrown out.

Lenard:
"Is it perhaps ego in a need to seem so understanding, so erudite, so wise that drives people to actually appearing foolish in absurd renderings of judgement??"
Yes, at least to appear so, and it is called liberalism.

I get scared
I get scared when I agree with anyone on Townhall...

Nicely done, Mr Chapman.

Exclusionary Rule is Unconstitutional

The Exclusionary Rule is not written or authorized by the U.S. Constituiton. It was contrived and imposed on the American People by Liberal Justices who lack imagination.

Lets use the example Chapman has cited.

There was no police misconduct because the arresting sheriff, from a different county, made the arrest in "good faith" believing the warrant to be valid which is all the law requires. The Consitution protects you from police misconduct not police incompetance or mistakes.

But why do we have laws. We have laws so the american people can obtain Justice when they are wronged. They can be wronged by being the victim of a crime or civily in some cases.

Suppose the defendant in this case had a gun that was used in a homocide. The family of the murdered person has a right to expect justice.

According the Chapman, the gun should suppressed as evidence and never be used in court because some civilian clerk at the courthouse failed to delete a warrant from the computers and a Sheriff later makes an arrest in good faith based upon a bad warrant.

How does this provide Justice for the family of the murder victim? What Chapman advocates will deny justice to millions of crime victims.

That was never the intent of the 4th amendment. The correct legal remedy should be to permit the defendant arrested on a false warrant to civily sue the jurisdiciton that failed to remove the warrant from the computer. Not let a guilty party go free.

Too Many Lists
The digital age allows law enforcement to be sloppy about record retention. In this case, it was expired warrants. At other times, its gun purchase records that were due for destruction. It is getting far too easy to wind up on some list that may allow a "well intentioned" government agent to violate your rights.

Good call Mr. Chapman. It is always difficult to argue for liberty and natural rights when a defendant is unsympathetic and in this case, really stupid.

I hope that the law and order TH types don't find themselves in desperate need of some 4th Amendment protection when President Obama starts rounding up their assault weapons and non laser etched ammunition.

if
you accidentally are one day late paying property tax, there will be a 10% penalty. if you are 1 day late paying income taxes, there may be a 25% penalty. if you let a license expire, you are penalized. if you dont see a speed limit sign and fail to slow down, you get harassed and fined. if you misjudge your alchohol level, and are found to have .08%, which is only one part in 1200, you get harassed, jailed, and heavily fined, and publicly embarassed. if, however, you are the police, and you murder someone, you just throw down a gun and claim self defense. if you accuse someone in court, they are guilty in the absence of evidence. if you dont like someone you are harassing, just beat them and charge them with resisting arrest. but surely no "innocent mistake" by police should in any way inconvenience the police. the sucker is lucky to be alive.

Victims have rights too.

Victims have rights too. Why should a victim be denied a day in court because police screwed up the warrant?

The evidence is still evidence. The Gun is still a Gun. The victim has nothing to do with the preparation of the warrant.

Justice is about the victim. The Defendant has a right to a fair trial. The fair trial assures justice for both victims and defendants.

Suppressing evidence does not result in fair trials.

Way off the mark
Once again the Supreme Court is off the mark. Not in the fact that he should stay in jail, but in the fact that his rights were not violated. The police searched him with legitimate probable cause. They believed (it was not known until later that they were wrong) that he had an active warrant for his arrest. They arrested him and searched him accordingly. Yes it was tough luck, for him. In the words of that movie "Liar Lair" ... "Stop breaking the law A**hole!". There was no breach of his 4th amendment rights here.

D

Actually the defendant in Chapman's example does have legal remedy and can sue the party or parties that failed to remove the warrant. It may be the Sheriff in the other county, the civilian clerk who failed to clear the warrant. It may be the entire county. That will depend upon who is responsible for the removal of warrants.

This Article is more about Chapman trying to project a serious error on the part of the Conservative Courts and not about his concern for the lack of justice.

Its very transparent to me.

The Roberts Court Gets It Right
In my years of practice, I was never a big fan of the exclusionary rule. Likewise as a judge. But as a criminal defense attorney, I sure as heck used it. And as a judge, I applied it (holding my nose the whole time). The Supreme Court has simply used the "harmless error" rule. That doesn't mean it's harmless to the defendant. Tough. It simply means that law enforcement must act in good faith, but must not be denied a legitimate prosecution because of an unintentional mistake. And for those such as the author who think that implementation of the harmless error rule means that this is an incentive for sloppy police work, I have some news for you. Strict implementation of the exclusionary rule has far more often resulted in intentional "mistakes." We caught it on occasion, but we always wondered how often it succeeded. Like so many other bad statutes and rulings, the exclusionary rule has created a long series of unintended consequences. And the unintended consequence of making it much easier for dangerous criminals to escape the law has done severe injury to our criminal justice system. There are multiple ways to punish lawless prosecutors and police without punishing the public by setting clearly guilty and dangerous criminals free to work their trade.

The price of freedom
Those claiming the defendants rights were not violated, or if they were it was an "honest" mistake and should be overlooked, are a perfect example of what is wrong with America. Yes, in cases like this you have to allow someone who broke the law walk free. But that is the price you have to pay if you believe in freedom, the constitution and equal rights for everyone.

the government's crack pipe.
I wonder why Herring's truck had been impounded in the first place.

Presumably the truck was impounded as a result of Herring's violation of some Coffee County, Alabama ordinance...probably drug related.

I am not a lawyer, but I side with Chapman here.

All these federal, state and local law enforcement agencies have been slurping at the trough of asset forfeiture for decades now.

It is outrageous.

Some law enforcement agencies have come to rely upon the seizure of vehicles...and in that sense they have come to be dependent upon this law enforcement mechanism almost as it it were a drug.

As a conservative, I believe strongly in the 4th Amendment, and the Founders were wise in prohibiting the government from exercising unreasonable searches.

Nowadays the government needs its fix of asset forfeitures, much like a junkie needs his fix of crack.


The problem with lawyers
This is what happens when everybody "lawyers up".
The "victim" here had his truck impounded for some reason. In many jurisdictions, the police "search" the vehicles so as to inventory the contents to prevent vehicle owners from claiming property was stoeln from the vehicles. If the "victim's" illegal items were found as part of this inventory, would they have been excluded? Probably not. The local authorities trusted an arrest warrent data base. They had no reason to believe the data they recovered to be in error. There fore they did not conduct an "illegal search" since they had reason to believe their search was justified. Further the "victim" had illegal items. This means, of course, he was breaking the law. Being so stupid as to go to impound to get your illegal items does not entitle you to be protected from your own stupidity.

In case...
...anyone is curious, the weapons charge is from the fact that the person in question was out on parole. The among the items he was anxious to retrieve was a handgun. Possession of a handgun is a violation of his parole. The drugs were just icing on the cake. Perhaps if Bennie had decided to obey the law (drugs) and the conditions of his parole (gun) we would not have to read Mr. Chapman ramble on about the violation of his rights.

Better, we should strengthen the exclusionary rule to allow Bennie out so he can commit another crime, perhaps at the expense of Mr. Chapman. That is the problem. If the police screw up it is society that pays the price with another dangerous criminal preying on the population.

Jonah Goldberg's take on this issue
I'm inclined to agree with both Jonah Goldberg and "Catdude" regarding this situation. The police in this instance were acting on the information they had. They had no way of knowing that the arrest warrant should have been deleted. If someone neeeds to be punished, punish the person who failed to do their job to delete the arrest warrant.

Violating Rights
The one branch of government that the founders had in mind to be the balancing force for the freedom of the people is busy selling us down the toilet of socialism and tyranny. For instance, they've quietly given B.O. a pass on the lawsuit that requires him to prove his place of birth and eligibility to be president. Family law has grossly trampled at least four constitutional rights for years by the States with nary an objection from the SC. These self-satisfied, over compensated fat cats are not doing their jobs. They use sophistry and other despicable tricks to circumvent the true meaning of constitutional rights. One more sign of a Nation in decline.

Barking up the wrong tree
The exclusionary rule was a compromise solution by the Court meant to preserve 4th and 5th Amendment rights from executive (police) abuses.

The downside was that even when police act in good faith, with no intent to deprive a individual of their constitutional rights, sometimes mistakes happen. When they do, should society suffer criminal acts to be ignored?

The author intentionally overlooks the GOOD FAITH exception tempering of the exclusionary rule: United States v. Leon, 468 U.S. 897, 104 S. Ct. 3405, 82 L. Ed. 2d 677 (1984).

The analysis by the Court noting that the 4th Amendment

. . . [C]ontains no provisions expressly precluding the use of evidence obtained in violation of its edicts. The exclusionary rule, was not designed to be a personal right rather; t was created to deter police misconduct and not to punish the errors. Under this interpretation, excluding evidence obtained through an honest mistake serves no purpose. . . .

This precedence was again AFFIRMED in 1995. In Arizona v. Evans, 514 U.S. 1, 115 S. Ct. 1185, 131 L. Ed. 2d 34 (1995), a court employee mistakenly listed Isaac Evans as the subject of an arrest warrant. A police officer had stopped Evans for a traffic violation, searched Evans pursuant to the faulty warrant, and found drugs. The Court held that evidence seized as a result of clerical error, need not be excluded from trial; emphasizING the 4th Amendment exists unreasonable police intrusions.

In this instance, justice is served. There is no police abuse being sanctioned; and, the guilty is not set free because of an unintended error.

As for the clerical impropriety, anyone falsely taken into custody as the result of an erroneous arrest warrant has a REALLY good tort case against the negligent parties. If the defendant HAD NOT been found in possession of drugs, a tort case, with a REALLY BIG PAYDAY would provide a legal remedy to the clerical mistake.

What is needed here
is jury nullification. If there is ANY way to get a new trial his lawyers ought to do so. And then, contrary to the Supreme court of idiots (see Sandra Day O'Connner's remarks today about our "democracy"), the attorney ought to tell the jury what he wants and why. And he ought to be willing to go to jail for contempt if the judge issues any order/instruction to the contrary when he beseeches the jury to be the final arbitor as to what is constitutional. The power rests finally in the People under our constitution and NOT IN THE HANDS OF THE SUPREME COURT!

Agree and Disagree:
I agree that police need search warrants. However, I disagree that any evidence taken without a search warrant should be ignored and the police involved are punished by it being ignored.

I think that evidence should be used regardless of how it is acquired. On the other hand, if it is acquired because the police involved do not get a search warrant, they should be punished, first with a fine and time off, and second with jail time.

You will find that the police obey the law even better - and more criminals go to jail. Particularly when a police officer working with the criminals make a point today of seizing all evidence without a warrant to insure the criminals can go free.

To MerryColin:
The Constitution does not permit a jury to define the constitution or change its existing legal interpetation.

THE PEOPLE decide the FACTS at trial. The Court instructs the jury in the applicable law and applies the law to the FACTS as decided by the JURY. The appeals process reviews the conduct of the lower court/s and provides remedies in the instance of judicial error; including misinterpetation of governing law and constitutional concepts. The Court normally does not review the decision of FACTs established by the Jury--unless it is obvious the jury CLEARLY errored with an unreasonable decision (AGAINST the defendent).

Lawyers for the defendent GOT a trial in a US District Court. The Eleventh Circut Court affirmed the conduct of trail judge. The defendent then appealed THAT decision to the US Supreme Court.

The facts are not disputed by anyone. Mr. Herring (a previously convicted felon) was caught with drugs and a gun in his posession. At issue was, did the police have AUTHORITY to stop and search him (resulting in the discovery of the drugs and gun)?

Around 1920 the Supreme Court decided that evidence found in an unlawful police search should be excluded at trial. A prior case made an exception if an illegal search were made as a result of a judicial clerk error. THIS case, asked the court if evidence should be excluded if the clerical error was made by police department staff.

The answer was yes.

There are remedies for an individual falsely arrested or arrested as the result of negligence--in this case, a get out of jail free card was not one of them.

After losing at all level in the judicial system, the only remaining appeal is a political one--see if sympathy and pressure can be generated for a pardon. Mr. Chapman is overlooking the fact that his client is from Alabama and NOT California.

Doug of UT
No dear, you are wrong! What exactly do you think the term "jury nullification" comes from? They don't nullify their own verdict,they nullify thee law by refusing to pronounce someone guilty in spite of the facts. I will repeat my comment posted on the last column by Armstrong Williams and stand my ground on this one. In the meantime you might brush up on some reading!

"There are three branches of government in a democratic REPUBLIC. (1)The executive/judiciary-- they have "police" powers to enforce laws. (2) The legislative (House and Senate)---they have the power to create law (3) The PEOPLE--- they sit on juries and they are the decision makers as to the Constitutionality of ANY law (jury nullification) as well as the facts of the case. This is the true BALANCE OF POWER which ultimately leaves the final power in the hands of the People!

This incredible system was created to assure citizen participation in government and, most important, was designed to protect the citizens from the tyranny of government. Until Americans are no longer misinformed by authors and teachers who were also misinformed we will continue to suffer under a government that has run amok. Wake up People! No where in the Constitution does the Supreme Court have the right to decide constitutional issues. That's like having the fox guard the henhouse. After all, the president chooses the Supreme Court which is approved by the Senate! As well, the president is sworn to uphold (defend)the Constitution as the nation's top cop. He has NO POWER to make laws, declare war, or do half the crap the people believe he can. He may only suggest actions to Congress; he IS NOT a legislator.

The author has a civic duty to correct this information. To not do so is a travesty bordering on treason."

Straight and True!
We've seen some excellent discussion here today [with few folks of the incoherent lynch mob bent] which is a fresh breeze coming from Town Hall. I have great respect for ethical lawyers and judges...for holding the rudder of justice "straight and true" is a tough job.


Jim-Too

Rights violations
I think you need to look at the whole of the situation. In this case, he was arrested on a bad warrant and everything stemmed from there. Therefore, since the initial arresting incident was bad, he should not have been tried on the other charges. But, if he had been arrested for trespassing, or some other valid charge, then the other charges would also be valid.

Its decisions like these that make us realize that law is too important to leave to lawyers and judges.

Doug
"The Constitution does not permit a jury to define the constitution or change its existing legal interpetation."

It doesn't permit a court to do that - the people are certaintly permitted to. If I run a red light, there is no doubt that I violated the law, but a jury can decide that I am "not guilty" when I clearly am guilty and admit to it if they decide that doing it safely while taking my father to the hospital was justified. The prosecuters don't like to pick you for a jury if you say you believe in jury nullification. The judges also say that you must convict on the basis of the facts.

Juries can acquit for no reason other than they simply don't like the law.

Thank you Rich D!
You get it. Most people don't which is the biggest reason for the sad state of affairs in this country.

Constitutional Rights
The Fourth Amendment ensures a persons right against illegal search and siezure. In this case you cite the officers violation of those rights as cause to throw out a conviction for possession of drugs and a gun. The officer arrested Herring based on what he believed was a valid warrant and subsequently found he committed a new crime and violated the conditions of his parole. The officer acted in good faith and quite possibly prevented Herring from committing a more serious crime, thereby ensuring the public's safety.

The justices ruled properly. If any person is to be held responsible for Herring's arrest on a recalled warrant it should be the court or Sherrif's Department's warrant unit for not updating Herring's warrant information.

Herring is obviously a career criminal and repeat offender who has no intention of abiding by societies laws. Therefore, Herring's arrest was for greater good of civilized society.

GREATER VIOLENCE TO THE CONSITUTION I
Yesterday, Barack Hussein Obama took the Presidential oath of office, swearing to uphold the Constitution of the United States.

Yet Obamanation has yet to prove in any forum that he meets the qualification of "natural-born citizen."

If born in Kenya, as his grandmother claims, because Kenya was part of the British Protectorate of Zanzibar in 1961, Obama is a British citizen.

To qualify him as a natural-born US citizen under the existing US law, his mother would have needed to be 19 years of age at the time. She was only 18.

If born in Hawaii as claimed (rather than an overseas birth being registered in Hawaii which was allowable at that time), Obama lost his US citizenship when he has adopted by his mother's second husband, an Indonesian national.

GREATER VIOLENCE TO THE CONSITUTION I
If Obama went through US Immigration when he returned to Hawaii aged ten, he could only be "naturalised" rather than "natural born," a status he lost when his mother consented to the Indonesian adoption.

Numerous leftards I've spoken to about this have said "so what, the man was elected President."

The Constition is what it is at any point in time. Provision exists for "We the People" to amend the Constitution if it is to be altered.

You can't just pick and choose what to uphold and what to disregard because of expediency.

If you want to ignore the "natural born citizen" requirement for the office of POTUS, what other parts do you want to ignore? The bit about "All men are created equal?" The bit about "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness?"

Why has Obama spent $800k + blocking various legal actions asking for documentary proof he is eligible to serve, when all he has to do is table the documents?

On all the evidence a usurper was sworn in yesterday.
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