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Monday, September 29, 2008
Star Parker :: Townhall.com Columnist
Protect us, don't expropriate us
by Star Parker
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As our presidential candidates drone on about our current financial crisis being caused by greedy Wall Street CEOs, a study just released by Canada's Fraser Institute points to what the real problems are in the United States.

This is an annual compendium called Economic Freedom of the World, which the Fraser Institute produces, in cooperation with an international network of free-market think tanks.

Of central interest here is the fact that there is a direct correlation between the extent to which a country is economically free and how prosperous it is. The more economic freedom, the more prosperity. The less economic freedom, the less prosperity.

What is economic freedom? The study provides ranking in five areas: size of government, legal structure and security of property rights, access to sound money, freedom to trade internationally, and regulation of credit, labor, and business.

The troubling news in this year's report is the precipitous drop in the economic freedom ranking of the United States. The U.S. has dropped from No. 2 in the world in 2000 to No. 8 in 2008.

According to the study's press release, only five other countries -- Zimbabwe, Argentina, Niger, Venezuela, and Guyana -- experienced a greater decline in economic freedom over the same period.

Again, the great concern here is that the most powerful predictor of national prosperity is the extent to which a nation is economically free.

This is what we should be thinking about as we consider the causes of our current financial crisis and what we should do now.

As regular folks around the country watch Washington power brokers ram through the financial industry bailout plan, what I think most find deeply troubling is seeing so clearly how insecure our property is.

It's almost incomprehensible that, in the course of a few days, politicians can slap together a package in which they will take almost a trillion dollars of our money to buy the trash securities being held by various financial institutions. And that this is legal.

It is certainly not an indicator of a good state of economic health or freedom when private property can be expropriated this easily.

But how many realize how long and to what extent this has been going on?

As Charles Calomiris, of Columbia University, and Peter Wallison,of the American Enterprise Institute point out, because of tax-payer backing, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac "were able to borrow as much as they wanted for the purpose of buying mortgages and mortgage-backed securities." And, according Calomiris and Wallison, as they pursued a mission to encourage "affordable housing," they enabled massive growth in the amount of shaky sub-prime loans flowing to the marketplace over the last few years.

It's incredible how generous you can be with other people's money. While taxpayers were driving their kids to school and going to work, politicians were setting them up to guarantee the debt of mortgage-backed securities buying behemoths.

It's the increasingly shaky state of the law -- both as it defines the constitutional limits of the federal government and the integrity of our private property -- that sits at the core of our problems today.

It stands to reason that if all it takes is a smooth talking politician to expropriate the property of individuals or businesses, that the ability and willingness to work, save, invest and do business will suffer. And that prosperity will decline.

Barack Obama is running for president to save us from ourselves and give politicians even more sway over our private lives and property. He's telling us that it's "Wall Street CEOs whose greed and irresponsibility got us into this mess."

But Obama sat by in silence as the Senate tried to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in 2005. And he's taken $126,349 in contributions from Fannie and Freddie, second highest in the Senate (only behind Banking Committee chairman Chris Dodd).

The decline in economic freedom in the U.S. is what should concern us today. We need less political hot air and fewer politicians who want to degrade the very law that is there to protect us.

This is what citizens should be looking for as we try to get out of today's mess.

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Star Parker is the founder and president of CURE, the Coalition for Urban Renewal & Education, a 501c3 think tank which explores and promotes market based public policy to fight poverty, as well as author of White Ghetto: How Middle Class America Reflects Inner City Decay.
 
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Phone book appointment
I just completed reading the latest version of the 'bail out' plan, and I am even more convinced now that I was before...

We would be better off to draw, at random, our Senators and Representatives from the phone book, than we are now. At least then we'd have a chance of real people with actual common sense in Congress writing our laws.

What I saw in the 'bill' was line after line of gibberish, resulting in the grand usurping of power, wealth and property by the Federal government... and page after page that is ripe for corruption... just like the other bills they have passed dealing with the economy.

So let's eliminate those with criminal records, those who are illegals, and from those that are left over, let's draw names and vote on them. Maybe that will help us save the Union.

Thank you, Star Parker
That says it all in a way anyone can understand it. The Government is definitely the problem.

No one will say it, but
it's the illegal aliens, stupid! Banks were pressured to make loans to those who had no business getting them BY THE VERY SAME FOLKS who now want to point the finger in every other direction. Sorry, you won't get this information on any of your friendly MSM stations. It's politically incorrect, and it's going to be the undoing of our country. Build the fence (that we paid for), anyone?

Who's to blame?
Watch this video and I believe you'll know where to place blame. It's gov't meddling. This, I believe is a sidebar to Star's excellent article.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH--o

Have your mouse over the pause button, because it moves pretty fast.

As long as we have large numbers of people (voters) or elected officials who will put themselves or their "party" (Dem or Repub) before the Country, we will be on a downward spiral.

I'd suggest involvement at the grassroots level and ask the perspective candidates how long they intend to stay in office if elected. Try to impress on them that anything longer than roughly a decade is too long without a significant break from legislative service. (Another decade or so.)

I endorse DC - UT's post about phone book selection. It actually would be better for the country than what's going on now. Some of the moron's back in WADC should be tried and hung for treason. I'd pull the rope on C. Dodd or B. Frank in a heartbeat - crooks.

What is economic freedom?
"The study provides ranking in five areas: size of government, legal structure and security of property rights, access to sound money, freedom to trade internationally, and regulation of credit, labor, and business"

Keep the Democrats out of government because they are all socialists now and that will be the end of America as we know it.

Remember, Martin Luther King was a Republican.

Bailout
I don't agree with this bailout / rescue plan but no matter how many calls , faxes , or emails , we can not stop it ... It is as if the voters have no voice at all and its our freedom that we are talking about ... The democrates have got to decorate their tree early this year to pay some of Obama supporters early just in case he don't win.

This tells us something about Obama
there have been many things in Obamas past that tell us who he is, but it seems no one is paying attention because the media loves him. Only in the congress for maybe four years with two running for president and gets the second most money from fannie and freddie thats something. This is what happens when we get all these Havard lawyers running the country instead of having people who respect the common people and know they work for us. We are trusting the same people who put us in this mess with billions to fix this mess.

Rip Off
This is the biggest government rip off yet. It is the end of the America we knew. It is the end of what made America great. Why play by the rules any longer. Grab all you can as fast as you can for it now as become a free for all society which will translate into rather quickly nothing for all. Ask yourself, where in the Constitution does the government get this authority to take our money? This bailout is a knife in the heart of America. How did we get here so fast? It makes me want to cry for the America that I loved. God Bless the citizens that made it great, and GD our politicians that have destroyed the foundation that made it so great.



Isn't is about time...
...we elected leaders again that are true to the American people? Since Reagan left office we have been electing Harvard/Yale/Oxford educated idiots that think they are smarter than the rest of us. We need 'real Americans' not lawyers, MBA's and duplitious Rhodes scholars governing us. Save the NBA's and lawyers for advice on occasion and in the meantime tell them to get a real job.

HOLE IN THE BUCKET
'Guess what'---the enormous 'Bucket' that our Government will use to 'bail' out the debt of of the criminals of our financial markets, has a very convenient hole in the bottom of it and 'Guess who' will be right under the hole in this 'Bucket'?--the exact same crooks and politicians who steal our tax money and took our savings in the first place. The American people have been and are continually being forced to throw our hard earned money down the 'rat holes' of Government, yet unknowingly we were and still are (with 401ks and 403bs) puting our savings down another 'rat hole' named Wall Street.
Our economy-the global economy--is an illusion, no different than that of 'Master Magicians' who stand on stage and demonstrate the art of 'Now you see it, and now you don't'. 'Illusions' can't be 'fixed'.
History repeats itself. The devastating lesson our grandparents and great grandparents learned, being forgotten or unknown, holds true today--trust no one and hide whatever you can in your own mattress.

Ms. Parker, You missed one
This bailout is going to be owned by John McCain, even thought democrats already had the votes for passage, McCain is going to be credited with getting congressional republicans on board.

We just got a practical demonstration of how congressional republicans will bow to Amnesty, Cap and Trade and all of the other items on McCain's liberal agenda if he is elected.

He just lead them to political suicide.

Vote Third Party
Seems to me that if the two main parties won't listen to the public, it's time the public showed them who is really in charge.

Better than to have 4 years of Libertarians, Constitutional Party, and Marijuana reformers going at it than our current system of "the two wings of the same bird of prey."




STAND FOR THE PEOPLE!
I appreciate all the posts here who are expressing a voice to return to a government, "by the people and for the people". Why is it that the reports are that over 75% of American people are against this bailout and yet those in power in Washington are going to push it on down our throats. No one has really answered the question why a foreclosure rate of between 1%-4% of all subprime mortgages would be 700 billion dollars. All of this mortgage mess has been brewing for years and suddenly one month before the election 4 major banks, Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac and AIG are all in trouble the same week?
All of this sounds contrived to me.

Time For Real Change
I find it particularly disturbing that our elected officials pay no attention to our calls to not fund this crazy bailout plan. Once again, our "leaders" in Washington take care of their cronies and the good ole boys and shove it to the taxpayers. We need to unite as taxpayers and as voters. Let's identify every member of Congress who voted for this rip-off package and vote them out of office. Our elected representatives will think twice in the future about ignoring the demands of their constituents.

Constitutional Limits
That philosophical approach was abandoned some years ago as we discovered that an unrestrained gov't is quicker with more lavish benefits than a strict constitutional gov't would be. It was a deal with the devil.

Now we are hooked, and the gov't is in the roll of pusher for our narcotics - our many handouts and entitlements (Mark Steyn). The gov't in return, being personified by the elected, _get elected_ by lavishing the treasury upon us.

Was De Tocqueville right in his warning?

Who's to Blame for Crisis?
This video is very interesting.

Who's to Blame for Crisis?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/joe-curl/2008/Sep/26 /whos-blame-crisis/

ropati
Michelle Malkin had a really good article on this subject last week.

When I posted on TH, I asked the question, "Why is Michelle Malkin the only one speaking out on this?"

R.I.P. AMERICA
MY AMERICA IS DEAD

.....I grew up in the Forties and Fifties ...those were America's glory days ...that America only exists in Newsreels and my memory ...it no longer exists in literature because the Liberals have revised the History books ...

.....My America did a 180 in the Sixties and Seventies ...LBJ, Vietnam, The Great Society, MLK and Civil Rights divided a once united America ...in a short two decades my race went from revered to scorned ...Cowboy and Indians flicks where the cowboys were always the heroes changed to Politically Correct films where Native Americans were massacred for their Land ...Almost overnight my ancestors became the "Bad Guys" and a new term was coined "White Guilt" and this gave birth to "Affirmative Action" to redress past "sins" ...Political Correctness became the State Religion ...

.....So here we are on the verge of an economic collapse ...something that was unthinkable in the America I grew up in ...R.I.P. AMERICA .....COLOSSUS

We are in a financial crisis.
That's why it's so important to elect the right man for president, and that man is Obama.

Only he has the vision, life experience, and ability to reach across the aisle to accomplish his goals.

He can fix our economy, as well as other problems that beset America.

The American people will have to tighten their belts a bit, because the solution requires tripling the tax rate, but with those extra funds, Obama and his team will fix our nation's problems. This is not the time for anyone to be selfish and hoard their money. We will all have to dig deep into our pockets and give Obama our resources. In return, he will take care of us.

Take a look at Zimbabwe...
...that's where we'll be in just a few short years.

SOUND MONEY IS REQUIRED FOR PROSPERITY
Sound money was listed as a characteristic of freedom, and thus a requirement for prosperity.

But our money is not sound. It is not backed by gold or any other commodity. Rather, the money supply (and thus interest rates) is controlled by human beings (the Federal Reserve), and money is manufactured at will and backed up by *nothing* but pure faith.

THIS IS THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM.

Interest rates have been kept artificially low which has given people the false impression that over-lending was OK.

Now, the establishment would have us believe that Wall St. and credit have been "unregulated" (don't believe it) and that the solution is for the federal government to run the whole show by dumping $700 billion more *un-backed-up* money into already well-lined establishment pockets, opening up a new regulatory bureaucracy, and micromanaging even more.

That is not even to mention what amounts to nationalization of some banking concerns.

Or even to mention that, even though this $700 billion is made out of thin air, it is still confiscated taxpayer wealth. Whenever more money is added to the money supply, the value of each dollar is diminished. The money in your wallet will buy less and less as the inflation progresses.

The establishment will benefit at your expense.

Go to lewrockwell.com! It is chock full of articles telling it like it is. While there search Murray Rothbard.

People do not realize that our money is unsound and this is the root cause of the problem, and that in the long run this bailout will aggravate it!

See my blog at http://www.alicelillieandher.blogspot.com

Democrate for life
Dear democrat for life....
I have never heard such brain dead comment like this, To think that raising taxes in this economic season is the cure. What you are really saying is you want a bailout just like the repubs. do. But you want more taken away from our already restricted income to give to the gov. If that happened we will surly fall economically. Dem. for life, you are dumb for life with a thought process like that.


We are in a financial crisis.
That's why it's so important to elect the right man for president, and that man is Obama.

Only he has the vision, life experience, and ability to reach across the aisle to accomplish his goals.

He can fix our economy, as well as other problems that beset America.

The American people will have to tighten their belts a bit, because the solution requires tripling the tax rate, but with those extra funds, Obama and his team will fix our nation's problems. This is not the time for anyone to be selfish and hoard their money. We will all have to dig deep into our pockets and give Obama our resources. In return, he will take care of us.

The chronology of America's destruction:
Lincoln prepared the fields in the 1860's. Teddy Roosevelt sowed the seeds. Wilson irrigated and fertilized. FDR brought in the first crop. Since then the Republicans and Democrats have argued endlessly over which seeds to sow, and which crops to nourish, but each furrow yields the spoiled products of socialism, whose only use is the fattening of the State.

As long as we the people buy into the notion that we have only two choices, we will assuredly have only two choices. You must decide; expand your options, or be content with the leftovers handed out by Marxist A, or socialist B.

Democrap for life
You say he has the vision: Would that be socialism?
You say he has life experience: Would that be that corrupt Chicago politics?
You say he has ability to reach across the aisle: When has he ever, ever done that, except reaching for the huge handout from Fannie and Freddie?
His soulution is tripling the tax rate? Our current corporate tax rate is already around 35%. Multiply that by three...Do you need help with that?
You Libs think conservitives are selfish, but it is prooven that we give way more to charities than you. Your generosity is with my money.
Finally, you say that Obama will take care of us...Don't you understand...I don't want to depend on any human being, especially from the government to take care of me.. Only God (sorry, didn't me to swear at you) can I depend on for my needs.

Economic Freedom
It would be good to know what countries now rate higher than the US in economic freedom. This would help me decide where to invest and perhaps move. Neither party seems to be able to get past the greed that is Washington DC.

Voteing for Obama.....
Voting for Obama is like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

The democratic bail out plan
part 1
Office of Speaker Nancy Pelosi – September 28, 2008
3 Phases of a Financial Rescue with Strong Taxpayer Protections.
• Reinvest in the troubled financial markets … to stabilize our economy and insulate Main Street from Wall Street
• Reimburse the taxpayer … through ownership of shares and appreciation in the value of purchased assets
• Reform business-as-usual on Wall Street … strong Congressional oversight and no golden parachutes

CRITICAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE RESCUE PLAN.
Democrats have insisted from day one on substantial changes to make the Bush-Paulson plan acceptable — protecting American taxpayers and Main Street — and these elements will be included in the legislation

Protection for taxpayers, ensuring THEY share IN ANY profits
• Cuts the payment of $700 billion in half and conditions future payments on Congressional review
• Gives taxpayers an ownership stake and profit-making opportunities with participating companies
• Puts taxpayers first in line to recover assets if participating company fails
• Guarantees taxpayers are repaid in full — if other protections have not actually produced a profit
• Allows the government to purchase troubled assets from pension plans, local governments, and small banks that serve low- and middle-income families

Limits on excessive compensation for CEOs and executives
New restrictions on CEO and executive compensation for participating companies:
• No multi-million dollar golden parachutes
• Limits CEO compensation that encourages unnecessary risk-taking
• Recovers bonuses paid based on promised gains that later turn out to be false or inaccurate


Democratic plan part2
from the office of Nancy Pelosi
Strong independent oversight and transparency
Four separate independent oversight entities or processes to protect the taxpayer
• A strong oversight board appointed by bipartisan leaders of Congress
• A GAO presence at Treasury to oversee the program and conduct audits to ensure strong internal controls, and to prevent waste, fraud, and abuse
• An independent Inspector General to monitor the Treasury Secretary’s decisions
• Transparency — requiring posting of transactions online — to help jumpstart private sector demand
Meaningful judicial review of the Treasury Secretary’s actions
Help to prevent home foreclosures crippling the American economy
• The government can use its power as the owner of mortgages and mortgage backed securities to facilitate loan modifications (such as, reduced principal or interest rate, lengthened time to pay back the mortgage) to help reduce the 2 million projected foreclosures in the next year
• Extends provision (passed earlier in this Congress) to stop tax liability on mortgage foreclosures
• Helps save small businesses that need credit by aiding small community banks hurt by the mortgage crisis — allowing these banks to deduct losses from investments in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac stocks

Office of Speaker Nancy Pelosi – September 28, 2008


We aren't even going to eliminate the
illegals. We now have to work very hard to prop up the subprime mortgages we have lent them so that they cannot be deported - at least not nearly as easily as those without property and families. Hell, we can't even get rid of the truly NASTY CRIMINAL illegals- Geraldo played a part in that and got Michele Malkin knocked down a couple of pegs. He only likes his own version of the truth. So, Obama or McCain, unless there is again a grassroots movement, we are going to be stuck with the illegals. Our government just doesn't seem able to find enough means by which to sell and/or wrest our country from us and our kids. God help us all.

Economic Freedom
For much more detail on Parker's train of thought, read "Free to Choose" by Milton Friedman, or view the TV series (the best thing that has ever been on TV) at miltonfriedman.blogspot.com.

Democrat For Life
Is that you Loyal Democrat. Get a name change or are you simply a fan? Nice post.

From each according to their ability, that means everything. To each according to their need, meaning whatever it takes to get your vote.

I think our doom was sealed when first the constitutional limits placed on our federal government were voided. Majority rules. Woohoo. The majority wants a free lunch. What time is lunch?

Blah Blah Blah
As long as the wolf is guarding th hen house we are doomed! These Elected Thugs in DC just sell their souls to the devil for a few greenbacks and the tax payer picks up the tab! The entire group in DC from Pres to the freshman Congressman need to be driven out on a rail! They are all in on this deal, whether they had their hands out for pay offs or turned their head while it went on they are GUILTY! If they took a dollar or a million dollars from the financial industry they are Guilty! We need to demand arrest and convictions of any politician that is involved in corruption! We need to demand resignation of any politician that is found to be operating UnEthically! We need a total overhaul of our Gov't., anything short of this is just a waste of time. We will just keep getting unethical corrupted people to send to DC! God Help Us All!

chicaree
I can't wait for those profit sharing checks to start rolling in. I am sure Congress, as our broker, will be holding the actual shares in those companies we are participating in. Are they going to be paying quarterly dividends or will they simply reinvest all proceeds so we get capital gains appreciation. Is this plan a bailout or a prospectus? Can I choose a different fund manager if I don't like Obama, Pelosi, or Reid? Inquiring minds want to know.

chicaree
I especially liked the part about tying CEO compensation to risk taking. Yes we can, eliminate all risk. Put the gubmint in charge. Zero risk equals zero reward. What a great idea.

Protect us, don't expropriate us
The "bailout" is premature at best. Systemic problems require a lot of work to ferret all processes that led to the crisis and throwing money at the nincompoops that created this mess in the first place, primarily the financial industry with collusion of government, is plain lunacy. The current fiasco has been purposely engineered and the financial types are the architects. Politicians never do anything on their own; they collude extensively and, therefore, when things go wrong, they can point the finger at others but take the credit when it's good. Politicos definitely have a share of the blame including aiding and abetting financial entities and lax to no regulation enforcement but the financial industry weasels are the primary money grubbing group that failed to use prudent restraint and went berserk with greed.

Free Enterprise....
Left America in the early 1900's and has been expolating ever since to socialism. Eventually it will peak like a internet or housing bubble and down the house comes.

The question was asked in congress the other day. Have we crossed the precipise of no return?
You know your in trouble.

Most free capitalistic enterprise countries. Canada, China, Japan, and India would be my choices.

Here is Democrat congress stimulation package. Cheap labor for cheaper consumer products.
cheap labor needs cheap housing.
cheap housing needs cheap loans.
cheap loangs needs cheap capital
cheap capital comes via tax payer.
Income distribution, but seems not coming from the rich.

All taxation and inflation is at the point of purchase.

Here's some facts, folks
September 12, 2003 -- Yes, that's right -- the year 2003: The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago. The plan is an acknowledgment by the administration that oversight of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- which together have issued more than $1.5 trillion in outstanding debt -- is broken. A report by outside investigators in July (2003) concluded that Freddie Mac manipulated its accounting to mislead investors, and critics have said Fannie Mae does not adequately hedge against rising interest rates.

The ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee, Representative Barney Frank of Massachusettes, stated, "Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- are not facing any kind of financial crisis." Frank went on to says, "The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.''


More Interesting Facts
In 1995, the federal government "streamlined" the regulatory requirements for Community Reinvestment Act loans, allowing — a more correct word would be pressuring — banks to make mortgage loans without the benefit of traditional credit-worthiness criteria, such as the size of the mortgage payment relative to income, savings history, and even income verification. To put it in more accurately -- federal bank regulators required banks to make bad loans based on nonexistent credit standards as an effort to make home mortgage loans in distressed areas and to the poor -- many of which were minorities -- in the interest of "fairness," as advocated with community activist groups. This is not a racist statement -- only the facts!

You might want to take a look at the record of JUST ONE of these lenders who worked with community activists and followed "the most flexible underwriting criteria permitted." That lender's $1 billion commitment to low-income loans in 1992 grew to $80 billion by 1999 and $600 billion by early 2003. What to quess who that lender was? -- Countrywide -- the nation's largest mortgage lender. Countrywide's chief executive once bragged that, to approve minority applications that would otherwise be rejected "lenders have had to stretch the rules a bit." He's not bragging now.


Gary L Johnson - Denver5280
Star Parker - Thanks all that you deo to educate us nwith fair and balanced reporting of the results of your research and thoughts. Wouldn't Star Parker and Sarah Palain make a good ticket for reform?

Fun facts
"September 12, 2003 -- Yes, that's right -- the year 2003: The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago."

From
Leveraged Losses: Lessons from the Mortgage Market Meltdown

David Greenlaw, Jan Hatzius, Anil K Kashyap, Hyun Song Shi


"From 2001-2003, 10% of all mortgage originations were Alt-A or subprime. In 2004, that number increased to 25%, and in 2005-2006 it was 30%."

The meltdown went into high gear after Bush made his dire prediction. And with a GOP control Congress, they could not stop the subprime fiasco?

What a bunch of wimps, scared of a mean old democrat filibuster.

How does claiming you knew about it but did nothing justify your parties action.




bail out
The bail out bill is failing to pass as a I type this comment and the stock market is down 670 points.
Could this be the crash of '08?
The Democrats should think long and hard before they tamper with the housing market again.
The whole thing could come crashing down because of their incessant desire to have unqualified people buying homes.

All Together
Baseballdoc and other's have it about right. We swapped a Republic for a centralized democracy, and watch as 300 million people fight over the carcas of the Republic. In turn, we run a one party state in which each is alternatively given power to provide a semblance of a working democracy. No one knows who to trust - or who to believe. If we don't pass a bail-out bill - which the house just rejected, and the economy goes in the tank, everyone will be even if angrier. And if we do, and it goes their anyhow - or goes their a few years downstream - they'll be just as angry. The people who brought us the mess are the one's who claim they can bail us out - which, needless to say, is hardly reassuring. After all, if they didn't know what they were doing then, how could we be expected to believe that they know what they are doing now?

And, as we stumble along, we get ever deeper in debt, ever angrier, and ever more accusatory. We find it easy to scream at each other, or at poor people, or at Congress, or at Wall Street, or at the Federal Reserve, or at the Treasury - or at just about anyone but ourselves.

If that bailout doesn't pass - you better get ready for a rough ride. And don't think that either McCain or Obama are going to be able to sort it out either. Nor, that either will get any benefit when anyone walks into that voting booth.

Right now, the house leadership, Bush, McCain, Obama and the like are working furiously to try to change 9 votes. We'll see.

Who's to blame & What We Need Now
Here's who to blame...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH--o

The fastest solution I can think of is the FairTax and a lot of prayer.

1.) Eliminate all income taxes (particularly capital gains), IOW replace the IRS and all it's bureaucracy with the FairTax.
2.) Adopt a sensible Energy policy. Drill Here Now, build more refineries, clean coal and nuclear power plants.
3.) Reduce Gov't Regulation starting with a repeal of Sarbanes Oxley
4.) Accountability, contact your elected officials and tell them you're paying attention and you're not happy with the status quo. It's time for our leaders to start looking out for the taxpayers interests.



THE HOUSE REJECTS SOCIALISM

.....THE REPUBLIC SURVIVES ...

....Bowing to pressure from their constituents, ninety-five Democrats joined with the House Republicans to reject Nationalization of the financial and mortgage markets ...

.....Thank God for a moment of sanity ...the Market needs a bailout but it should be with private funds not taxpayer money ...let Super-Libs Bill Gates and Warren Buffet put up their stock portfolios and trust funds up as collateral instead of trying to slough it off on Joe Six Pack .....COLOSSUS

the bailoutbill failed

a few minutes ago. It had the bipartisan votes to pass, but just prior to the vote the Speaker made a floor speech of a very partisan nature blaming the administration and the Republicans for the crisis. Twelve Republicans changed their vote as a result. Now the dumbos are blaming the Republicans for the bill's failure. The dumbos are just never responsible for their actions; in this case a bonehead move by the biggest bonehead on the hill who happens to be second in line for the Presidency. There were, BTW, 94 NO votes by the democrats who control the house.


McCain/Palin 08

He Did Write a Letter
B.H.O. did write a letter; I know because he so vainly pointed that out to us during the last "debate".

Big Deal! Did he vote on change in 2005 when it could have made a real diiference? No. He voted with his socialist party Democrats.

I am pleased to see that there are some Democrats that voted agianst this bailout plan alondside with their Republican counterparts.

Keep speaking up! They are lsitening to us when we speak this loudly!

McCain/Palin
2008

The vote on the bailout and reactions
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/feedarticle/7837470
Capping three hours of debate on Capitol Hill, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer of Maryland had warned lawmakers that the cost of inaction would be an economic calamity beyond Wall Street.
"A meltdown would begin, it is true, on a few square miles of Manhattan, but before it was over, all of us know, no city or town in America would be untouched," Hoyer said.
When the contentious bailout plan was announced by the Bush administration last week, some House Republicans balked at spending so much taxpayer money just before U.S. elections.
Republican House members voted against the bailout by a more than 2-to-1 margin. A majority of Democrats voted in favor.
President George W. Bush had urged lawmakers to pass the bailout package quickly, saying it was needed to keep the financial crisis from spreading.
The showdown on the bailout proposal came too late for Wachovia Corp, which agreed to sell most of its assets to Citigroup Inc in a deal brokered by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp.
The Dow Jones industrial average was down more than 4 percent and the broader S&P 500 index was down nearly 6 percent. Oil fell $8 a barrel.
Earlier, European shares dropped to a three-and-a-half year closing low with bank shares weighing heavily.
"Investors are fearful, frenetic, especially when it comes to banking shares. They want to get out now and see the after effects from afar," said Frank Geilfuss, head analyst at Bankhaus Loebbecke.
Around the world, investors were dumping assets they regarded as risky. World stocks were down sharply, while gold and U.S. Treasuries surged in the rush to safety.

Pelosi
Maybe we will later be grateful to Sanfrancisco
Nancy for her boneheaded speech.
One way to win is for your enemies to make more mistakes than you do.
Hurrah for Nancy Pelosi.
Donald W. Bales

So Be it:
If we are to decend into socialism then our economy is doomed anyway. Let the crooks and politicians fail.
NO MORE BAILOUTS!

The situation we face
This observer subscribes to the counsel of Rush Limbaugh: It is high time we, the people, start calling for the resignations of the Barney Franks, Chris Dodd, et. al. We need to start putting pressure on them. As long as we do nothing, these people will continue to be emboldened. And this mess wil only get worse.

A Root Cause
In this situation we face, I'd also like to bring to everyone's attention a root cause.And this root cause illustrates the difference between the Dems and the (conservative) Republicans. The Dems motivation for manipulating Fannie and Freddie was to ostensibly help those who were "less-than-perfect-credits" get housing. But if they really wanted to help their constituents, they'd see to it that those folks became financially educated. We've heard for years the complaints by minorities that they were "redlined". But did they ever bother to develop their credit rating before they applied for a loan? That would have served them a lot better than some whoring politico getting them into a situation that would inevitably lead to a foreclosure, and, a huge stain on their credit rating.

OPPOSE THE SOCIALIST RESCUE PLAN
Americans Beware…OPPOSE THE SOCIALIST RESCUE PLAN

Stop all this madness! As citizens, we understand the crisis at hand, but we should not support a solution that consolidates power in the federal government as the only way to stave off a complete economic meltdown.

We should be urging Congress to slow down and consider the other free-market solutions that don’t march us off the cliff to socialism and bigger government, both of which I believe must be avoided at all costs.

We understand this is a complex issue. That’s why we needn’t rush into any solutions that could prove far more costly, in more ways than one, to our nation in the long run.

The FED (Democrats & Republicans) got us into this mess and now they want to get us out of it, but only if they can use it for “PORK’N”; hold on to your wallets. One TRILLON is only the beginning of what could be America’s final downfall. They are a bunch of hypocrites and traitors to the principles that makes America the greatest nation on earth. Many should go to jail or at least lose their job; still many more should resign; for they let this happen under their watch.

“WE THE PEOPLE” must take action and prevent this cure from becoming worse than the disease. For if we do nothing, we will have no one to blame but ourselves. Phone, fax, e-mail, write, and sound-off; let your elected officials at all levels of government know how you feel. Stand-up and fight for your liberty and freedom from a government for the few, at the expense of the many.

For Joe-Tax-Payer…to be required to pickup the total cost tab on this mess, is WRONG!!!

http://nkqx57a.blogtownhall.com/2008/09/27/americans_beware %e2%80%a6oppose_the_socialist_rescue_plan.thtml


"Obama's lining his pockets"......
"And he's taken $126,349 in contributions from Fannie and Freddie, second highest in the Senate (only behind Banking Committee chairman Chris Dodd)"....Now I get it! Obama's IN THE TANK FOR FANNIE AND FREDDIE!....How much do they "own" him?....Let's see, the Obama campaign has raised @ 1/2 Billon $$ in campaign contributions...OK, do the math: $127,000 < $500,000,000 = less than 1/100th of 1 percent...Yes, he's definitely owned by Fannie and Freddie...By the way, Obama's contributions are from Fannie/Freddie EMPLOYEES...The contributions were to his campaign for President...Could this explain why he's received the 2nd largest contributions in the Senate?....Nah, let's not screw up the talking points.

It's dangerous to get between a person
emerges from college with a guilt-complex, having discovered that all men were NOT created equal. Feeling it his duty to correct that situation he becomes an advocate of wealth redistribution (aka socialism)

Let me try that again
The attempt to present one's-self as the savior of the poor through wealth redistribution is among the oldest of poltical tricks (Aristotle suggests that such attempts must always result in "the ruination of the state.")
The bad loans of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are the basis of the current financial meltdown,
and those institutions were (and are) the creation of the political left. IN spite of the obvious, Bill Clinton, Barney Frank, and Chris Dodd are screaming that every mortgage must be re-written so that no one loses out.
The fact that the AMerican voter cannot see
through the finger pointing of Pelosi and company in this matter, makes one wonder if democracy has not already failed in American.



Constitution: Who know it best
Ladies and Gentlemen,
If anyone will protect your rights under the Constitution it is Barack Obama, a University law Professor of Constitutional Law for 8 years.

There will be no Supreme Court requests to bend the laws built into to protect your rights as was done in the Bush administration.

Obama has a brain and a heart. He is as American as you are that's why he gets it.

We hear all this screaming about partisan politics yet here is a chance for the American people to act in a non-partisan fashion and acknowledge that McCain has a 26 year old record of playing the Washington lobbyists game. Lobbyists first, American people second. Even his campaign is run by 7 of the powerful lobbyists in Washington, several of which you can be sure helped drive this economic crisis we are in.
With Obama, his alledged lack of experience is probably one of the the best assets he can offer Americans, that and his brain and caring heart. Obama hasn't had the time to be indoctrinated in McCain's good old boy system of Washington politics.
Think about it. Vote Obama.

All Politicians are not crooked
Obama's lack of tenure in the Senate is not an automatic sign of his suitability for the job of President, as Eleanor seems to think it is.

In his short time in office he has managed to be on the wrong side of every issue and is going to be a disaster of a President -- pulling us out of Iraq as we are winning; taxing us into poverty out of "fairness" (to whom is never explained -- certainly not to the person who earned the money).

I shudder to think of the Marxists and looters whom he will reward with places in his administration, and worse, nominate to the Supreme Court (goodby 2nd amendment, 1st Amendment too).
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