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Monday, July 09, 2007
Star Parker :: Townhall.com Columnist
The Democrats' own brand of racism
by Star Parker
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Watching the recent PBS-hosted Democratic presidential debate at Howard University, I was impressed with the uniformity of the messages communicated to the mostly black audience. I felt like each candidate was reading from one script, making a nuanced change here and there so there'd be some differences between them.

Every problem -- black unemployment, education, crime and incarceration, AIDS -- had one answer. More government programs and spending. There is simply nothing you could have asked any of these Democrats that would not have gotten this same answer.

It's like blacks do not exist as individuals. According to this Democratic presidential line-up, which got plenty of encouragement from the audience at Howard, there is not a single way that black lives could be improved by enhancing individual freedom and personal responsibility.

Nothing speaks to this more clearly than the responses to a question from Michelle Martin of NPR about HIV/AIDS. She pointed out that black teenagers, although just 17 percent of the overall teen population, account for 69 percent of teen HIV/AIDS diagnoses.

The question: How "to stop and to protect these young people from this scourge."

Uniformly, the answers were about, of course, increasing government spending on AIDS programs.

Now there is no question that we have an obligation to figure out how to meet the demand for treating those that are afflicted. But that wasn't the question. The question was how "to stop" the scourge.

This was an instance where Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York truly distinguished herself. Needless to say, she ticked off the usual list of spending proposals. But the leadoff was key. Clinton was the only one to suggest a connection between HIV/AIDS among blacks and racism.

"If HIV/AIDS were the leading cause of death of white women between the ages of 25 and 34, there would be an outraged outcry in this country."

It was as if the senator simply couldn't wait to lay this line of shameless pandering on her black audience. And it certainly worked. She got resounding and spontaneous applause of approval.

I wonder how many young black Howard University students were present to watch their elders, many distinguished black leaders, endorse Clinton's dismissal of black responsibility for their own lives.

It is no mystery that HIV/AIDS is a sexually transmitted disease. And it should be no surprise to expect it to be more prevalent among populations that are more sexually promiscuous.

A study released within the last few weeks by the National Center for Health Statistics, a branch of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, reports the sad and grim data that blacks are indeed far more sexually promiscuous than whites.

According to the findings, blacks are twice as likely to have sex before the age of 15 as whites and half as likely to have abstained from sex before age 21.

Almost half of black males report having had more than 15 female sexual partners over their lifetimes compared to about a quarter of white males. And 37 percent of black males reported having more than two partners in the previous year, compared to 14 percent of white males.

Among black females, 13 percent reported more than 15 male partners over their lives, compared to 10 percent of white females, and 19 percent reported having had more than two partners in the previous year compared to 9 percent of white females.

The damage caused by irresponsible sexual behavior goes beyond the pain and suffering of sexually transmitted diseases. It touches every aspect of the quality of one's life. Single-parent homes are the homes most likely to be poor. Poverty, and the host of problems associated with it, is also disproportionate in the black community, as is the incidence of HIV/AIDS.

It is most reasonable to trace the preponderance of problems that are tearing up black life in our inner cities today to irresponsible sexual behavior.

I am sure Clinton, and her fellow Democrats, can come up with an explanation as to why racism drives a black man to have 10, 20 or 30 sexual partners, and to abandon the children that he fathers. But this is itself racism, because it dismisses that blacks can take control of their own lives.

But blacks can take control of their own lives. We have many successful blacks in our country today who demonstrate this fact. But to do so in our troubled neighborhoods takes promoting an agenda that, unfortunately, is quite apart from what our Democratic line-up has interest in.

In general, it is to understand that we need to get traditional values communicated to young blacks. In particular, to appreciate that the most effective way to do this today is vouchers and school-choice opportunities to allow these kids the option to attend church schools.

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Star Parker is the founder and president of CURE, the Coalition for Urban Renewal & Education, a 501c3 think tank which explores and promotes market based public policy to fight poverty, as well as author of White Ghetto: How Middle Class America Reflects Inner City Decay.
 
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"Race"
Folks, I'll admit to being a moderately fiscal conservative and a social liberal. While I am open to opinion's that differ with mine, you will never be able to appeal to me with the comments that I've seen on this board. First of all, please stop referring to blacks as being a part of a "race". The human genome project has already provided the truth, there are no appreciable genetic differences between so called blacks, asians, caucasians, etc. Therefore, you cannot refer to anything but the human race. However, I will admit that there are most likely cultural differences, but you cannot assume that any "like" group of people are a monolith with some group thought process. To do so is insulting and affront to any thinking man or woman.

Stop Being Condescending to Black People
The times that that I have seen Ms. Parker on TV, I almost never agree with her. I have a hard time taking anyone seriously who doesn't believe in evolution. But I partially agree with Parker. The Democrats were pandering to their audience. But isn't that what every candidate does--adjust their statements to cater to whomever they're speaking? One of the cardinal rules of public speaking is to understand the audience. The Republicans do it too when they incessantly talk about lowering taxes. It seems that some conservatives rarely agree with black public figures unless they deride and degrade other blacks or deny the existence of racism.

I don't like to make blanket statements about people based on their political labels. I don't think that all conservatives are racist. In fact, I think that many level headed conservatives have legitimate arguments about the economy and social issues. But with the talk about IQ and eugenics on this site, it seems as if some conservatives use coded language like this to cloak their racism. I wonder if Ms. Parker reads posts like the ones here and how she feels about aligning herself with pseudo-scientific neo-racists.

The puzzling thing for me is how Ms. Parker thinks the candidates can give nuanced public policy responses to complicated issues such as the AIDS epidemic in black America when they have only one minute to respond. Of course, the candidates believe that people have personal responsibility. But the question was as president what they would do to stop the spread of the disease. The question inherently called upon them as the head of the government with influence over governmental funds and governmental agencies to give a governmental response to the AIDS crisis. Berating black people or giving them an abstinence pep talk does nothing to help quell the spread of the disease and probably is counter-productive in making people feel more personal responsibility because such a way of talking down to blacks would cause a backlash.

As much as Ms. Clinton's simultaneously played on homophobia and victimization in the black community while appealing to her base of black women, Ms. Clinton was right. The AIDS crisis among black people--male, female, young, gay, straight-- is getting far too little attention.



Jews flock to Dem for Liberal issues
Oddly, many Jews support abortion. I don't know why or how they could possibly stand behind that but they do. They are generally enamored with the socialist agenda. Again, I don't get it but it's true - in fact, it was a renounced Jew that gave us the polical system of communism. Many of the people defining the hippie movement of the 60's were Jews. A lot of them have not grown up. I can say this for a lot of non-Jews, as well. When I was living in a big city, Planned Parenthood ran a page with the names of prominent people in the community that support abortion. I was truly sadden to see some of the names that showed up. Now that more and more Asians become assimilated to the liberal lifestyle of the US, they too may be funning to the dems because the dems mean freedom to do what you want. There aren't as many moral constraints....

OneWiseGuy writes
"Liberals are *more* selfish and in a more demeaning sense. They try to do what they consider virtuous, but by taking other people's money and property--and they do it by force, whether it's with guns or with majority votes backed by guns."
While they are taking everyone elses money, they are the worst givers of their own. Republicans out donate the liberals by orders of magnitude. I guess they feel they have done their altruism after pickpocketing the wealthy or not so wealthy, just better off. It's really pathetic. When will they use their brain and assess the situation and say, hey, communism/socialism does not work and it's killing people left and right (pun intended!).

Ellison and IQ
"No, it's because I am aware of the consistent findings of almost 100 years of IQ testing matched with life outcomes; and also because I know how current discoveries about racial differences in brain size and processing, using MRI and DNA mapping, fully correlate with those long-observed outcomes- and with my own observations."

As a psych major in college 30 years ago and continuing reader, I don't understand this comment. Trying to measure brain processing with DNA mapping would be like trying to figure out the route from Detroit to Houston by examining samples of asphalt. We're still trying to understand how the brain works in tiny specific tasks; I don't think any researcher worth his/her salt would attempt to correlate intelligence with these specific task measurements.

But the original article was about personal responsibility to standards. You don't have to even be able to graduate from high school to understand elementary things like "Don't steal" and "Save it for marriage." The article was pointing out that adherence to the basic code of behavior simplifies life and makes for success.

I've seen large numbers of people ruin their lives because of personal behavior problems. I can't offhand think of anybody who followed a personal responsibility code whose life was a mess, and some of those people are mentally handicapped.

meant to say
feel powerless

The old adage
"Give a man a fish, he'll eat for one day; Teach a man to fish and he'll eat for a lifetime!"

Dems believe in give give give...that way the recipients will fell powerless and beholden to the givers.

Republicans believe in offering opportunities for growth and teaching personal responsibility / accountability to produce a productive member of society, beholden to NONE!

Interesting....
Black votes shouldn't be the only concern for our party, the voting patterns of most (if not all) minority votes should be a cause for concern for conservatives. Hispanics, American Jews, and Asian Americans have abandoned the Republican Party and are showing overwhelming support for the Dems. I mean, we as a party can continue to place the blame on welfare, other social programs and lazy black people, but even in the black community which has proven to be very social conservative, we're not making any head way. And what about Jews and Asians, is welfare the issue that also drives this group to support Democrats? I have alot of black friends and very few of them have positive things to say about Sharpton and Jackson, yet we continue to place blame for the GOP "image" solely on the footsteps of two of the most irrelevant figures in the black community. One of my blacks friends said that the two were media wh*res and was nauseated everytime he saw them on TV, yet my friend is a registered Democrat and a professional scholar. Why has the party alienated so many minority groups and at what point are we going to realize that we can NOT continue to win elections with the sole support of white Americans? Seriously people, time to start looking inward instead of placing blame everywhere else. I live in a very diverse neighborhood, and the GOP aint looking so good from this end!

HIV
There seems to be a reluctance in the U.S., th4 U.N. and elsewhere to recognize that the spread of HIV is almost always related to high risk behavior by someone. It is spread only by sex or blood.
A vaccine is a low probability. And no one has been cured by treatment-not that treatment cannot ameliorate symptons and prolong life and decrease, but not eliminate, infectivity. The only way to stop or slow the spread is by a sea change in sexual behavior. Perhaps that is such an intimidating task that no one, or almost no one, tries to tackle it.
As to genetics being the cause of behavior, that is just an excuse.
The Democrats may not want to keep blacks poor and ignorant, but their policies have made that more likely.
There is hope for black though. There are common sense black pens and black voices that promote personality responsibility. Here is my list:
Admired non-white Columnists and Others
1. Ayaan Hirsi Ali (for Muslim women in particular and Muslims in general)
2. Herman Badillo (for Hispanics)
3. Ken Blackwell
4. Herman Cain
5. Ward Connerly
6. Bill Cosby
7. Dinesh D’Souza
8. Larry Elder
9. Samuel L. Jackson, Jr.
10. Alan Keyes
11. Leonard Pitts
12. Michele Malkin
13. Mychal S. Massie
14. Clarence Page
15. Star Parker
16. Jesse Lee Peterson
17. Colin Powell (some reservations about him)
18. Condoleezza Rice (sometimes she worries me)
19. Don Scoggins
20. Thomas Sowell
21. Michael Steele
22. Clarence Thomas
23. Armstrong Williams (most of the time)
24. Juan Williams (sometimes)
25. Walter Williams
26. Irshad Manji (for Muslims)

Not admired:
1. Jesse Jackson
2. Al Sharpton
3. Don King
4. Loopie Louie
5. Maxine Waters
6. Cynthia McKinney
7. Harry Belafonte
8. Cornel West
9. Henry Louis Gates, Jr.
Donald W. Bales, M.D. retired internist


Ellison
He must've been flagged because I don't see him here either.
Find a wonderful Star Parker article and you will find Ellison ranting and frothing in between his copying and pasting.

Seems the public has spoken, Ellison. Toodles^^

ellison
all viewpoints are worth discussing. I am a defender of conservs pov but would never advocate anyone being silenced, that is not part of our culture

ellison
he must have broken TH rules and they have purged his comments.

Ellison?
Who is this Ellison that has everyone's panties in a bunch?


SFASU7392
You asked Ellison to name some government programs that actually work. I direct anyone who wants to see the result yielded by millions ( if not billions spent over 35+ years) of tax dollars spent on large social programs to any inner city, the most visible products of Great Society spending and intervention. Dependency, despair, exponentially expanded gang activity, girls younger than ever having babies, drug dealing hubs (with the goal to being get suburban kids addicted, the thinking being they have access to more money) etc... Most schools now have daycare facilities in the middle schools for the students' babies.

Many program now exist for their own sake, and providing quality social services is secondary. In New Jersey, child protective services are a prime example. I give you a case in point from my own experience:

A fourth grade boy was referred to me because he was sexually aggressive and had brought hard core pornographic pictures to school. Long story short- his parents filmed porn in their house (including beastiality) and charged patrons from a nearby go-go bar a fee to have sex in rooms in their house. DYFS and the prosecutor's office said that as long as the kids aren't forced to watch or participate nothing was illegal and fell into the category of "value judgement". They told the "parents" to keep their activities out of the kids' sight. That was it.

Six years later, the boy has been incarcerated for various reasons, and the younger sister had her first baby at 14 and is in and out of psychiatric hospitals. The "family" has been surrounded with services for as long as those kids have been alive, and have received basically systems sanctioned escort to keep abusing their kids. This is far from an isolated case.

Those in mental health and social services are largely hamstrung due to being unable to make a "value judgement", which covers most behaviors these days. That is why you are hearing indignant cries from, in this case, the black community; they have been programmed to believe that there is no bad personal behavior, only bad societies that are racist. Abdication is much easier than introspection, and it is also big business for those in government.






Bobbit
Why can"t I see any of Ellison's posts?

Cookie
You're so right. If only we treated the social programs like Iraq. I want to know what are the bench marks and what is the exit strategy Mr. Reid? Maybe you should consider witholding funding there too.

HalO
Every post I have read of yours espouses the typical liberal talking points. Today's post at the beginning of this thread clearly exposes the left wing and it's racist position. You have just proven what we have always known: that the libtards think that blacks are inferior and always in need of a hand in order to survive in America and that of course ensures their votes with be for Dims. According to you they're just too dam* dumb to ever make it. We OTOH believe that if blacks are given an EQUAL (not greater)oppportunity in they quality of education they receive (see vouchers) and they CHOOSE to take advantage of it - they will excel. That is what we pray for them. You are simply a bigot.

Subtle Realities...
Star has addressed two disparate issues here that truly have very little if any correlation.

Certainly the black community is well aware of the lack of personal responsibility among a majority of the 28% who live below the poverty line (72% of black Americans are categorized as middle class or above). Considering approximately 18% of white Americans live below the poverty line it is quite possible the solutions are one and the same.

Posters here continue to use the phrase “Black leaders” as if it had some basis in reality. Black Americans don’t hold separate elections; the white media, talk radio and the majority of you continue to perpetrate that designation.

Voting Democratic or Republican is always a lesser of two evils. Conservative versus Liberal is not.

I have posted this before and I will continue to do so until white Republicans take a closer look at their own house.

Founded in 1985 by Gordon Baum, a worker's compensation attorney and longtime white-power activist, the CCC rose from the ashes of the Citizens Councils of America (CCA), a coalition of white-supremacist groups formed throughout the South to defend school segregation after the Supreme Court outlawed it in Brown vs. Board of Education.

According to the CCC's own Citizens Informer newspaper, more than 20 state lawmakers — 17 of them from Mississippi — had met with chapters of the hate group in 1997 and 1998. Peggy Noonan, Ronald Reagan's former speechwriter, said that anyone associated with a group like the CCC "doesn't belong in a leadership position in America."

Trent Lott, former Republican Majority Leader and now current Republican Minority Leader in the senate, who spoke to the group five times, once told its members they "stand for the right principles and the right philosophy”. Congressman Bob Barr of Georgia delivered a keynote speech at the CCC's national convention in June 1998.

Five years later, Southern lawmakers were still meeting with the CCC. According to a review of the Citizens Informer, no fewer than 38 federal, state and local elected officials who are still in office today have attended CCC events since 2000, most of them giving speeches to local chapters of the hate group.

That roster includes such leading lights as Mississippi's governor, Haley Barbour, and the presiding justice of the state Supreme Court, Kay Cobb. Though the vast majority of these politicians are Republicans — 23 of the 26 current state lawmakers, to be exact — the Republican National Committee, so forthright five years ago, now declines to condemn the CCC. No member of either party has been sanctioned or reprimanded for maintaining ties to the Council.

I would doubt you would find many Israeli’s voting for Hezbullah nor were they likely to feel any sense of participation when Arafat was in power. I would also doubt whether Israeli's would be eager to support a party quite comfortable in calling them "Oven Jews", ie. "Plantation Negroes". Why should black American’s vote for a party with a Senate leader like Trent Lott? Republican and the term Conservative are at a considerable variance (as the past 6 years has proven).

The question is not why do 90% of black Americans vote Democratic, but what are the other 10% thinking…after all “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”.

Ellison
what # is ellison's post?, Am i blind.

Great buildup, letdown of a finish
Does TH have some sort of word or page limit on articles? I'm thinking maybe it's a 2-page limit b/c I don't recall having seen one longer than that in the 3 years I've been visiting the site.

Star Parker wrote a good article that was well on the way to being a GREAT article. But she seems to have ended it abruptly. I'm all for school vouchers, allowing people to take responsibility for their own education, but surely this isn't the only step toward the black community becoming more independent of the nanny-state.


And AudiR10, I think (hope, pray?) that your suggestion of segregating HIV positive persons from society was made in sarcasm. I recently lost an old friend contracted the disease from a blood transfusion in the 80s. Despite his misfortune, he took responsibility for his life and lived a productive albeit tragically short 30 years on this earth. But even if he had contracted the disease due to some poor decision-making rather than a mistake beyond his control, I have the feeling his life would have been just as productive and inspirational. Star Parker is talking about accountability and personal responsibility here, not about locking everybody up in order to protect the population from this disease. Personal responsibility shouldn't be limited to life before the consequence, it should extend to living with consequences too.

Cosby's Message Must Become the Model
As long as black leaders continue to look the other way, remain a lazy their responsibilities to their communities, the scourage of the current inner city black culture will continue and, sadly, become worse and worse. Cosby stood up and spoke succinctly about this and what did his fellow leaders do - nothing! That's the problem. The black leaders live of the government subsidies or the collection plate they receive like fat cats. The purr and sleep and the scourge keeps.

Isiah 45:22
What you describe is a mystery of the political landscape.


Speaking of stupid liberals
I take apart the Clinton legend on my blog.

http://noliberalspin.townhall.com/g/771921fe-280d-4120-8a74-3e76d86c0186

Read it and WEEP Hitlary!

scottK
A black guy I used to work with was from Alabama and he and I were watching Jesse and Farrakhan on CNN over on Okinawa. He loked at me and said, "I used to only think that white people were racists."

IDIOT AFTER IDIOT
I have met many honest, straight forward blacks, who are much more honest than MANY OF my white friends.
The problem is: the BLACK "leaders" - Jacksons, Rangels, Sharptons, ETC. - keep them on Dem plantation to have mucho $$ via grants...for spreading hatred...

SHAME......SHAME...SHAME.....

Ellison

When I read the things that you write... there are no words to describe just how bad I feel for the black community.

Until you come to grips with the anger in your own heart... you will just continue to hurt the very people that you seem to be trying to help.

And racism is racism... no matter where it comes from.


SFASU7392
SFASU7392 writes: Monday, July, 09, 2007 11:58 AM

Black Doofus:

Writes: "s for being a liberal, I like it. We have a future." Yeah, sucking every dime in taxes out those of us who work to pay for programs that haven't, don't, and won't work. Name slome that have.
======================
Take a BOW! Well said. THAT is the crux of the libstain mentality. The government OWES ME and the H*LL with everyone else trying to make something of themselves.

Ellison
You that race-baiting Black Panther turned islamofascist now in the halls of the Kongress?

How did that class "Shakedown 101" go with Jesse "The Sperminator" Jackson?

Did you pass advanced race baiting with Al "twanda brawley" Sharpton?

Ellison Pt 2
You stated, "Even today, the legacy of slavery still impacts the family structure."

You and other race-baiters live on this fiction.

How do you explain these little facts.....

"In 1940, the illegitimacy rate among blacks was 19 percent, in 1960, 22 percent, and today, it's 70 percent. Some argue that the state of the black family is the result of the legacy of slavery, discrimination and poverty. That has to be nonsense. A study of 1880 family structure in Philadelphia shows that three-quarters of black families were nuclear families, comprised of two parents and children. In New York City in 1925, 85 percent of kin-related black households had two parents. In fact, according to Herbert Gutman in The Black Family in Slavery and Freedom: 1750-1925, "Five in six children under the age of 6 lived with both parents."

Ellison
You need to read this...Dr. Sowell is talking about you....

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/ThomasSowell/2007/07/04/taking_america_for_granted

suggestion
"Black teenagers, although just 17% of the teen population, account for 69% (nice number) of HIV/AIDS diagnoses."

What do do about this scourge?

Pick one

1) Keep your knickers on
2) Cross your legs
3) Say "no"
4) Here's the best one - avoid situations where choices 1 thru 3 will be necessary

Personal responsibility - what a concept


blacks and libs
i begin to think that weaning the blacks off the plantation is a seemingly impossible cause. Blacks are aware how bad things are in their communities yet styill trust the dims. The have fallen for lenin old line. Tell the lie long enough it comes to believed as truth. The dims have successfully painted the repubs as racist. Rather than analyze their condition too many blacks accept this as ultimate truth. Repubs acting as logical individuals have realized there is seemingly no way to counteract the dims lies. Squishy repubs think that offering bigger bribes and handouts might change the current scenerio, this is mearly another losing proposition. Other than pointing out the failure of dims programs it is the problem of blacks to access the situation and decide the time has come to try a new approach. As long as the welfare pimps and race hustlers continue their speil the staus quo will remain in place. Only blacks can change the equation. They must realize the failures and get rid of the bums who represent them and end the betrayal of their representatives. Getting rid of conyers, jackson, waters et all will be the first step towards black independence

Feminist Welfare State
The feminist welfare state has hurt many white families but it has destroyed the black family. Understand, they are saying they can live like out of control rednecks, but expect equal outcomes with those who live morally responsible lives.

The KKK had it all wrong. If they want to hurt blacks all they had to do is sign on to the welfare lobby.

Ellison
You state:

"We have already been through this. I give you facts, you run away like you always do. "

Exactly what is it I have run away from? I have answered your arguments by stating that your "facts" are meaningless and providing the evidence to prove it. You want to claim that there are so many "poor" in our Country yet you won't address how it is that they are considered "poor" yet own homes, cars, televisions, and other creature comforts that are wholly missing in many other parts of the world. In other parts of the world, the poor are actually starving, disease-ridden, homeless, etc. You want to compare apples to watermelons and then tell me that you're providing "facts"? You're fooling nobody and neither does your posturing and attempts to position yourself as a man of substance. The people here see thru you like a window. You have provided nothing of substance except the usual, tired leftist talking points that decry racism, unfairness, promote class envy and warfare. I do not have to debunk each and every one of your misrepresentations....there are plenty of other posters here who can and do just that. You like to claim that you "care about the people" but that is more leftist nonsense that you use to justify your attempts at robbery and self-gratification. This is from a friend of mine (American Father, Legal immigrant mother) and sums up the delusion leftists have about their compassion. I expect it it go in one ear and out the other because, as is true with all committed liberals, reality and truth have no meaning to you but I'm sure others here will get value out of it and see the truth in the words:

"The Conservative is perhaps being a little more honest and admitting that they are selfish and the Liberal is pretending to be compassionate while really being selfish. "True to form I am hardly so generous to liberals. Conservatives *are* selfish in the sense they want to keep that which they believe they have rightfully earned in a free society--neither by force nor fraud, but by free trade by mutual consent for mutual benefit. Ayn Rand argued that kind of "selfishness" is a virtue despite the generally negative connotation of the word people usually assume. Liberals are *more* selfish and in a more demeaning sense. They try to do what they consider virtuous, but by taking other people's money and property--and they do it by force, whether it's with guns or with majority votes backed by guns. Also they rarely say "thank you" or "I'm sorry I have to take this from you but it's for a higher purpose," and often publicly damn and vilify the very people they are taking away from. So which is worse, staying out of everyone's business but refusing to hand over your property? Or getting in everyone's business and forcing everyone else to hand over their property? Howard Roark said in the Fountainhead that "Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of his tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men." I couldn't agree more. But in the end, liberals excuse all their intrusion into the private lives and property of others because to them it is perfectly justified, so long as it is in the name of altruism or egalitarianism. The harm they have done in the United States and socialized democracies like Western Europe has been significant, but the same principle taken to its most puritan end has allowed other altruists to commit countless atrocities in the last century--always armed with the belief that any erosion of freedom (or any genocide) is permitted so long as it is in the name of helping the weak or the poor. Again, from Roark... "Has any act of selfishness ever equaled the carnage perpetrated by disciples of altruism? Does the fault lie in men's hypocrisy or in the nature of the principle? The most dreadful butchers were the most sincere. They believed in the perfect society reached through the guillotine and the firing squad. Nobody questioned their right to murder since they were murdering for an altruistic purpose. It was accepted that man must be sacrificed for other men. Actors change, but the course of the tragedy remains the same. A humanitarian who starts with declarations of love for mankind and ends with a sea of blood. It goes on and will go on so long as men believe that an action is good if it is unselfish. That permits the altruist to act and forces his victims to bear it."

Which is Sadder?
Liberals LYING to Blacks or Blacks BELIEVING Liberal Lies? Year after Year, The Same Liberal Liars are sent back to Congress, YET VERY LITTLE CHANGES in Black Neighborhoods!

SOMEONE IS ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL!!!

HalO


Your racial IQ proposition is absurd and history discredits your beliefs. Martin Luther King, Federick Douglas, George Washington Carver, just to name a few are laughing at your arrogant sense of intellectual superiority.

I suspect you might be Hillary or any number of intellectually superior, white, elitist owners of the Democrat Plantation. Or you might be Jesse Jackson or one of the other slave overseers.

Cold blooded serial killers are often highly intelligent and many college students with top SAT and ACT scores hide the evidence of their promiscuity with birth control and abortions.

You can't admit that there is NO correlation between race, good character and high IQ. Is it because you are stupid or are you just dishonest?






A question for Ellison
You have an admirable dedication to liberalism and "the people". Would you mind sharing how this dedication makes it from the abstract to the activity in your life? For example, what do you do for a living?

demo racism
last week on another thread many of were chastised for critisizing the dims running plantation that many blacks and their enablers seem only too happy to maintain. We are told of secret code and phrases utilized by conservs to covertly push rfacism in the south. The day that blacks realize the dims are their real enemy will be the beginning of the rebirth as a people. But like those addicted to drugs the dims keep their plantation well populated with those who can't kick the habit of accepting govt handouts. The dims have realized that their essential route to power has always been to those that don't work but will for for the dims as long as the handouts and speacial asst. programs never end. The one lesson that blacks and other victims groups can't learn is that the first step to get out of a hole is to quit digging. The dims always make sure their is a never ending of shovels. Meanwhile those who should be pushing for black self reliance, the race hustlers and welfare pimps; the sharptons, the jacksons, the ncaap and their lib enablers just keep preaching the same old message. The dims will lead you to independence. After 40 years of failed policies you would think that blacks would welcome a new approach. I guess the dim version of crack is too hard a habit to break

Ellison, thanks for making the point
Every single thing you just mentioned in your last post proves that ultimately cannot wait on the government to solve their problems.

You just listed a bunch of incredibly spectacular government failures. Most of these failures including all the housing projects listed were attempts by somebody to actually help poor people, but they failed. Any program that is mainly a hand out will fail, because it does not encourage people to take responsibility for their own behavior.

Ellison, thanks for making the point
Every single thing you just mentioned in your last post proves that ultimately cannot wait on the government to solve their problems.

You just listed a bunch of incredibly spectacular government failures. Most of these failures including all the housing projects listed were attempts by somebody to actually help poor people, but they failed. Any program that is mainly a hand out will fail, because it does not encourage people to take responsibility for their own behavior.

One more sham statistic:
"Today, 37 million Americans live in poverty. They represent about 13 percent of the population – the highest percentage in the developed world."

Seeing as how every nation measures their "poverty rate" differently, I can tell you that you are lying through your teeth. For example Canada does not have an official poverty rate, but calculates what is called the Low Income Cut-Off, which, by the way, was 15.9% at last report. This, of course, is not comparable to our own poverty rate, just as other nations poverty rates not being comparable. Everyone calculates it differently.

So to say we have the highest in the world is a utter and outright falsification.

But you're a liberal. Lying is to be expected from the likes of you.

Lies, damn lies, and statistics
"The rate of HIV diagnosis (diagnoses per 100,000 population) declined 6.8 percent annually among black women and 4.4 percent annually among black men...."

All those nifty statistics don't change the fact that blacks disproportionately contract AIDS.

"Also, The "Black Family" is not just a two parent household."

Indeed. Over 2/3rds of blakc children grow up in a single parent household. Why did you fail to mention that?

"Societal inequities also affect outcomes for many black families noting that schools in many communities are deficient, and when black men do get in trouble with the law their sentences are disproportionately longer than for their white counterparts and job opportunities are inadequate as well."

Last time I checked, "societal inequities" don't cause AIDS.

"And the gap has grown between the haves and the have-nots. The top 20 percent of earners take over half the national income, while the bottom 20 percent get just 3.4 percent."

The "gap between the rich and the poor" is such a garbage statistic. As people as a whole get wealtheir, OF COURSE the "gap" will grow. There is a floor to the "gap" (one cannot have anything less than nothing), yet no ceiling (there is no amount of wealth that someone cannot, at some point, have more).

"Almost every social indicator, from birth to death, reflects black-white disparities."

Yet none of those "indicators" points toward a cause.

"chances of imprisonment are 447 percent higher; rate of death by homicide 521 percent higher"

Could it be blacks are more prone to criminal behavior?

"the proportion with a college degree 60 percent lower"

And what is their high school dropout rate? Could that have something to do with it?

"Thank you Star once again for reinforcing my loyalty to liberalism and the people."

And thank you for proving only those whose IQs are below room temperature claim to be 'liberals'.

Re: Ellison
Apparently Ellison, you do not seem to be able to make the connection between individual behavior and social consequences. Star is concerned about who is having sex with whom because she believes that peoples behavior does impact the world around them including themselves.

Unbelievable she even believes that who you have sex with might even impact whether you get a sexually transmitted disease. Boy she sure is dumb to make such an incredible leap of logic!

By the way next time you present statistics about problems in social groups would you mind looking up some on single parent households from any racial group. Lets see if there might be some kind of connection between social problems (ie poverty and criminal behavior) and broken down family structures. (Oh by the way, how do single people get kids anyway. Oh yeah now I remember they have SEX with people!)

Ellison its a good thing that all problems are simply structural and have nothing to do with our personal behavior, because then we might have to be concerned about the consequences of our behavior.

Thanks Star
For once again telling it like it is. Bruzazki, where in the world did you come from? IF their is an antidote, then why do wealthy white gay men still get AIDS?? Out of this world is where you are!

Whine Whine Whine

.....Ellison ...

.....Don't you ever get tired of playing the race card? ...if you want to see the source of your problem ...look in the mirror .....COLOSSUS

Rev BBQ
What mystifies me is how many WHITE people also fall for the pandering and grandstanding. If liberal social programs were judged the way liberals want to judge Bush's Iraq war performance, then most of these programs would be deemed failures and done away with. Also, only in the Democrat Party can you have an absolute laughingstock like John Edwards taken seriously. The height of pandering and grandstanding. Why doesn't he do something with his own ill-begooten wealth to help that second America rather than confiscate it from those working hard? Why don't he and friends like Clinton embarrassed by their riches voluntarily give more in taxes? Because it is all pandering, all talk.

Why Liberals Pander to Blacks

.....Because blacks love it and lap it up ...then they vote for Democrats ...

.....your last paragraph might work but good luck getting vouchers past Liberals and Church run schools past the ACLU ...

.....Forget Government solutions Star ...only the private sector aligned with the Church can solve the problems you write about .....COLOSSUS

Congratulations Ms.Star.
So much of what we do with government programs hinders personal motivation. Take a person's drive to live and provide away and you have struck at his very heart.

I don't know the answer here but was the black family intact prior to big governments take over of the father's role?
















shameful

onewiseguy
I guess it depends on the definition of pverty is. So well said. You look at these stats and one asks, "This is poverty?"

Also, I love the "disparity in income" argument. This money is earned by bright, risk taking capitalists, not stolen as Ellison intimates. Our country is built on this. Take this away, bring in pure socialism, and there will be true poverty in this country.

Ellison
Wow. There have been declines in the numbers of affected Black HIV/AIDS patients......let's all have a party, the problem has been solved. Your "statistics" are meaningless since there is still what is considered to be an epidemic among the Black community when it comes to HIV/AIDS and it is for exactly what Star alludes to. Your statement:

"Yet Star and so many others are more concerned about who is fu-cking whom?"

shows that you are typical of the person who just doesn't get it or refuses to get it. You also state:

"Today, 37 million Americans live in poverty. They represent about 13 percent of the population – the highest percentage in the developed world. Their number has grown since 2001, with more than 5 million people having slipped below the poverty line during the Bush Administration."

To use your words again....Wow! Ok, here are some facst that YOU have conveniently ommitted:

The following are facts about persons defined as "poor" by the Census Bureau, taken from various government reports:

* Forty-six percent of all poor households actually own their own homes. The average home owned by persons classified as poor by the Census Bureau is a three-bedroom house with one-and-a-half baths, a garage, and a porch or patio.
* Seventy-six percent of poor households have air conditioning. By contrast, 30 years ago, only 36 percent of the entire U.S. population enjoyed air conditioning.
* Only 6 percent of poor households are overcrowded. More than two-thirds have more than two rooms per person.
* The average poor American has more living space than the average individual living in Paris, London, Vienna, Athens, and other cities throughout Europe. (These comparisons are to the average citizens in foreign countries, not to those classified as poor.)
* Nearly three-quarters of poor households own a car; 30 percent own two or more cars.
* Ninety-seven percent of poor households have a color television; over half own two or more color televisions.
* Seventy-eight percent have a VCR or DVD player; 62 percent have cable or satellite TV reception.
* Seventy-three percent own microwave ovens, more than half have a stereo, and a third have an automatic dishwasher.

Now, tell me exactly how it is that these people are poor? The answer is that it is all relative, relative to our standard of living, which just happens to be higher than any other Country. But wait, how can that be? After all, we keep being told that Capitalism and a free-market economy don't work, that they unfairly keep the masses down, especially Blacks. The poor in other Countries are actually POOR. You have no business lecturing Star while trying to bulls- everyone with your cherry-picked and mis-represented "facts". Your "facts" are the same tired, old leftist talking points that are designed to obfuscate the truth, sow division and discontent among our numerous economic classes and truly create what John Edwards referred to as the "2 Americas".
In answer to your question from one of the other articles:

Yes, you are sick. Why don't you be a good patient and isolate yourself from us, the healthy population, so that we don't catch your disease? After all, if you really care about your fellow man you should cherish such altruism.

Did anyone notice
that the pandering completely displaced everything else? Not one single question about the WOT during the enire debate. I guess the Dems thought the audience wouldn't be able to handle a discussion of anything beyond proposed handouts and blaming others. How condescending.

The SLP(soicialist liberal party)
have been using black america as stepping stones,
and i will be glad when more of them learn they
are being used.
Some black leaders have been saying recently that
Republicans have done more for blacks than DEms or SLP.

Go Star!
I love Star Parker and her views on personal responsibility. My daughter wrote a report on Ms. Parker for Black History Month which was also met with thundering silence.

Who would have thought a well-deserved HERO for this particular month could be an educated, articulate and conservative black woman who refused to accept that she was a victim just because the left wing establishment told her she was. This is definately not what my daughter's teacher was looking for. For this, I'm very proud of my daughter.

Dirty Little Secret
In spite of their public wailing over the plight of minorities, especially Black Americans, their real intent is to perpetuate the subclass status of their supplicants. The programs they propose do nothing to eliminate the root cause of the problems they alledgedly address. The substitution of government cash for the functional family unit creates a culture of dependency which denies children growing up in such homes the tools to succeed, specifically a decent education and the presence of positive role models(male or female). For the last 40 years, Uncle Sam has whizzed away uncounted billions (by now I'm sure it's trillions) of your and my hard earned dollars to what result? The public education system in virtually every big city is so horrendous, every administrator and teacher should be shot.(ok-fired with permanent revocation of credentials). Illegitimacy is at an all time high along with crime, the dropout rate, and various health problems. Yeah, the New Deal and the (not so)Great Society really cured Black America's problems. The truth which the Dems don't dare admit is that they have a vested interest in eternalizing the second class status of Blacks. As long as they can blame rich White folks(aka Republicans) and dole out a few crumbs, the Dems will continue to get 90% of the Black vote. There is some good news however, minority home ownership is higher than ever, and there are a few voices in the wilderness calling for Blacks to assert personal responsibility.

Irresponsibility
I recently had to present a speech to my fellow class mates at a Bible College I attend. Many of which are African American. The topic of my speech entailed why African Americans should not vote for the Democratic Party.

Before the speech, I presented my class with a survey about their feelings on abortion, and same sex marriage, and personal responsibility. I also asked the question of how many in the class were registered Democrats and Republicans.

The data was not surprising. A majority of the class was Democrats and a majority didn’t support abortion or same sex marriage. A slight majority felt that it was the individual’s responsibility to take care of his or her self.

However, after presenting them with fact and figures concerning the agenda of the Democrats, my speech was met with silence and stares that would make the most gifted speakers cringe.

I presented them with facts about abortion and its affect on the African American Community. I also told them how the so-called Black leaders felt that Abortion was irrelevant. I spoke to them about the evils of partial birth abortion and how the Democrats, Obama, Clinton and Edwards condemned the Supreme Court’s decision to uphold President Bush’s ban on Partial Birth Abortion.

I presented them with quotes from Clinton who seems to play the race card to get Black Support. After presenting all of this data and facts, a majority still said that they would continue to support the Democratic Party.

I told them that many African Americans do not know why the vote Democratic. One woman told me that she voted Democratic simply to keep the Republicans out of office. She was one of the 3 blacks that considered not voting for the Democratic Party based on the information I presented.

What I’m trying to say is that even when presented with facts, my fellow Black brothers and sisters seem to have been brain washed so much so that nothing can get them to change their voting habits.

I was truly dismayed when my speech was over as I felt that our community bases its hopes on a political party rather than on Christ who can change a person and a people.

What’s happened to our people?

The Democrats' message to society
Never really changes.

It always boils down to

Do As You're Told And Keep Your Mouth Shut.

Or Else.


All that ever changes is the specific nature of the "Or Else".


cheers

eon

Hee Haw had it right
One of our family punch lines -- our answer to the cliche that fits so many situations -- is an old Hee Haw joke.

"Doctor,I broke my arm in three places!" shouts a distraught patient.

"Well I told you before," says the Doctor angrily, "stay outa them places!"

Or the nudge nudge wink wink say no more say no more version of this is Granny's instruction in a much less, er, personal matter, "Put that thing down! You have no idea where it has been!"

The way to deal with AIDS/HIV is to tell people bluntly that there are only two ways to get it: by specific irresponsible behaviour and by consorting with those who practice same. And then tell them that if they DO these things and they CATCH the disease, their sole option is to be transferred to a sanitarium where they will live comfortably but with no contact with uninfected people, for the rest of their lives.

Then do it.

Make HIV/AIDS the new leprosy. Because that is in fact what it is.

You have two choices: stay outa them places (don't do what causes you to catch it) and live what life you have left in isolation. That is all. Thank you.

The liberal message of any party...
...affiliation is "Do whatver you want and others will (and should!) absorb the blame, consequences, and costs." Human nature naturally gravitates toward self-gratification (if this weren't true, we wouldn't have to "raise" children) and avoids humility and responsibility. Liberal ideology rides the wave of a naturally occurring human condition, largely because those with a modern liberal mentality love feeling powerful but are able to cloak it in benevolence. Its like having the ultimate icky mother-in-law in charge of urgent matters.

Personal Responsibility
I DON'T KNOW YOU BUT I LOVE YOU ALREADY. IT IS NICE TO SEE SOMEONE ELSE WHOSE SKIN IS BLACK, BE ABLE TO SEE THROUGH THE PANDERING AND GRAND STANDING OF THE DEMOCRAT PARTY. YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD THAT IT IS ALL ABOUT PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. IF YOU TRY TO ELIMINATE THAT THE SOCIETY WILL DEGRADE INTO CHAOS AND STD'S AND EVERYTHING ELSE BAD WILL PERVADE OUR SOCIETY. THANKS FOR BEING A FEMALE BILL COSBY IN A DAY AND AGE WHERE MOST HIGH PROFILE BLACKS ARE MEMBERS OF THE PARTY WHO WANT TO TAKE YOUR DOLLARS, GIVE YOU BACK PENNIES, AND TELL YOU HOW TO SPEND THAT VIA WELFARE AND FOOD STAMPS.
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

Traditional Values and Vouchers???
A bandaid on the soul of any people group is not the answer. The percentage will only change for blacks when they understand that the change in lifestyle must start with an individual change of heart. And that will only come by preaching of the Word and repentance of individuals. It is not traditional values that are needed but Bible based beliefs.

wildwest
That's the dhimmicrat's persription for the USA. Get everyone dependent on the crumbs that the feds can dispense at their leisure. Get out of line and the welfare, medicare, SS, ENDS!

BTW, swing by my blog and check the latest on Bubba and Hitlary Clinton!

Don't be ignorant, impact
It's if'n, not ifn.

21st Century Plantation
The plantation mentality is alive and well among a good size percentage of blacks and the Democratic candidates. The words have changed, but they still come across as "...Massa...kin we have some mo Watermelon? We's got to pick that cotton an' tote that bale, and it's mighty hot and thirsty work."

"Why, sho, Rastus. Ya been a good ol' boy and we 'preciate it. A boy's gotta have his Watermelon, and we'll throw in some fried chicken ifn you jest keep on bein' a good old boy. Gotta git that cotton (votes) picked, now, don't we?"

Of course, the black overseers, Jesse and them, they be bowin' and scrapin' to Massa so they can keep their little corner of power with the field hands and keep Rastus in line in them cotton fields back home.


HalO
Have you heard about the wonders of eugenics? I bet you will be a big fan if you are not already. I am sure you are blessed with enough IQ to tell us which minorities we can cull from the herd.

Bruzazki
heh heh

If the Dems cared
They would have called on the Bush administration to have the CIA release the AIDS antidote. Everyone knows AIDS was designed during the Tuskeegee Project to attack the black race and has been used by the Republicans, first Reagan and his henchmen Bush I and II, to kill undesirables like blacks, homosexuals and free thinkers. The only reason Magic Johnson is alive today is because President Clinton got elected and cared enough about another brother to give him the cure.

Which of the Dem candidates is brave enough to tell the truth?

I mean, it has to be the government, right? Disease, famine, war and teen angst never happened until there were governments, right? Mostly fascist ones. Thats it.

It is amazing
It is amazing how in each column written by Star Parker, she immediately goes to the heart of the problem - and the heart of the problem is being able to see the "sty in her own eye", which is the failure of blacks to admit their own failure to take responsibility for their own lives. Among all blacks speaking for their own race, Star Parker is "the voice crying in the wilderness", the one able to admit the failures of her race's "leaders". I wish she could become the official spokeswoman for blacks, instead of Jesse and Al. Every time Star Parker writes a column, it is simply the truth.

dems and irresponsibility
as long as the dims promote more govt programs as the cure for irresponsible behavior nothing will change. Yje dims essential message: there is nothing wrong with the messenger, but if he hears bad news he can't deliver it. Blacks cheer missus clinton as the soluytion to many problems. Her only answer is more govt programs
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