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Monday, September 18, 2006
Star Parker :: Townhall.com Columnist
Great nation or reality show?
by Star Parker
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"Survivor" has played the race card. The CBS reality show now creates teams selected by race to compete with each other. White, black, Latino and Asian.

Horrible and tasteless, you say. Exploitive and reaching for ratings by appealing to our worst instincts.

In the name of the Almighty Dollar, CBS, critics say, sets back our lofty goals of racial harmony, divides our nation along racial lines and promotes the very racial stereotypes we've tried so hard to bury.

But, really, what's all the fuss about? What's new here?

We've been living this reality show for 40 years.

Been to visit Congress lately? We've got the Congressional Black Caucus (the black team) to represent allegedly black interests. We've got the Hispanic Caucus (the Latino team) to represent allegedly Hispanic interests.

We've got the Voting Rights Act (which you might say serves the equivalent of the "Survivor" production staff) to guarantee election of blacks and Latinos so that we have caucuses, teams, to compete for the political prizes.

I read that some corporations have pulled advertising dollars from "Survivor" so that they are not associated with this tasteless outrage. But each one of these corporations, in all likelihood, has diversity officers who oversee programs to ensure that blacks and Latinos get hired by different standards than whites. The goal? No, not equality under the law. Diversity, as an ideal end in itself. Ethnic teams.

The NAACP sends surveys to these corporations to find out how many are on their black teams.

And we wonder why, after all these years, we still have racial divides and pronounced racial consciousness.

When I go to a corporation to seek support for my organization, in all likelihood, because I am black, I wind up shunted to the diversity officer who, in all likelihood, will hate what I do. His or her job is to get the ethnic teams hired. My goal is a society in which all aspire to the ideal of one law of one nation under God.

I remember getting my home loan, when the loan officer sheepishly asked if she could write down that I'm black. I understood that they need to compile the data so they can report how many Negroes they've lent to, in order to avoid hearing from the race police.

It's pretty sad what has happened and how the Rev. Martin Luther King's message has been turned inside out and on its head.

King's point of contention was not with the words of our founders, that "all men are endowed by their Creator...with unalienable rights." That "We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal."

His point of contention was that we weren't living up to these standards and that without them, everyone, black and white, was in jeopardy. He exhorted the nation to live up to its own unrealized ideals.

But, instead of a nation, under God, with one law, where all are judged by character and not by skin color, we created a nation of teams. A reality show that makes skin color the standard and character incidental.

Regarding the new racial wars on "Survival," one black journalist frets that the stereotypes that the black team might generate will have nothing to do with her own reality.

Yes, and what does the left-wing agenda of the Congressional Black Caucus have to do with me and millions of other conservative black Christians?

Corporations, allegedly to help blacks, pour millions of dollars into the NAACP to promote an agenda that is anathema to these same millions of black Christians.

The sad state of affairs is evident in an article in this month's Harvard Business Review called "Rethinking Political Correctness."

The authors, after extolling the achievements of diversity laws over the last 40 years, share with us a groundbreaking conclusion of their research that political correctness cannot solve all problems in the workplace. "Our work suggests that high-quality relationships cannot be mandated." No kidding. Praise the Lord for the Harvard Business School.

The article goes on to report behavioral guidelines the authors recommend, from their research, that individuals can use to contend with "tensions" that emerge from "diversity-related dilemmas" in the workplace.

Children once learned civility at church and at home. Now it's not a matter of right and wrong, but of "constructive engagement."

I think CBS has done us a favor by holding a mirror up to the country. We just need to decide if we want a reality show or a great nation.

The former may be good for CBS's ratings. I'd prefer living in the latter.

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About The Author
Star Parker is the founder and president of CURE, the Coalition for Urban Renewal & Education, a 501c3 think tank which explores and promotes market based public policy to fight poverty, as well as author of White Ghetto: How Middle Class America Reflects Inner City Decay.
 
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Parker
Miss Parker, another one or two columns like this and you will join my pantheon of tell it like it is conservatives. The company you will keep includes Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Ward Connerly and Alan Keyes. Being white, i keep hoping for some white members, but pickings are pretty slim. Rush Limbaugh, J. Gordon Liddy, maybe. Perhaps its easier for a black person to have a career as a vocal conservative because the MSM manages to be PC and racist at the same time, giving black folks a pass on saying things that get a white person crucified. Well, basketball is my game. I got used to being the only white guy in the gym a long time ago.

Pistol
You are right. A black conservative presents a serious problem for leftists, black or white. I happen to detest liberals/Socialists/Marxists or Progressives. What ever they happen to be calling themselves at any given moment, I despise them.


I live in the Bitterroot Valley in Western Montana. There are not too many blacks in Montana. I am in fact a minority, based on numbers.


There is no shotage of radical leftists in the Valley. Missoula is a university town and consequently home to a bunch of leftist professors and students. Down here in the Valley I enrage the leftist robots with regularity.


I have editorials published in the local newspaper on a fairly regular basis. The last one underlined the assistance the left is rendering to the Muslim monsters in Hezzbollah. I suggested that while they support the elimination of Israel from the Middle East, they prefer not to look at the way the terrorists will accomplish that task.


The lefties don't like to be reminded of the atrocities their delusional ideology has promoted in the past. I guess they are just too sensitive on that subject. They have been so frustrated by my hostility to them that once they were actually on the verge of playing the race card.


They want to call me an Uncle Tom so badly that they can taste it. They just haven't mustered the gumption yet. I have contempt for their weakness and their hypocracy. Underneath all the garbage about being for the downtrodden, they are as racist as they accuse conservatives of being.


Star Parker has again told it exactly like it is. I salute her, and I look forward to her articles. Black conservatives are growing in numbers, in spite of the way the MSM ignores it. It is driving the left bonkers. It couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch of people.

Pistol
I don't know how long you've been reading Star Parker, but take my word for it, she is well worthy of that distinction. In my opinion, she is greater than Dr. King as concerns character and equal in passion in the war for American fraternity and equality.

Respecter of Persons
Since God is no respecter of persons, Acts 10:34, neither should we be, James 2:9. Take note Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and this so called "nation under God."

Rather; "I am a companion of all them that fear thee, and of them that keep thy precepts." Psalm 119:63.

Regardless of race, regardless of wealth.

Gary Gordon

Hypocrisy Reigns for the Left
It is unbelievable that those who are screaming 'FOUL' over this scheme on 'Survivor' are the very same people promoting 'black dorms', 'black cafeteria's' and black student centers' on campuses across the country.


It's a control issue
I join in the hearty applause for Ms. Parker. I've been a fan since she showed up on Townhall. Any thinking person will read her and Sowell and Williams and look at the careers of J. C. Watts and Justice Thomas, just to name a very few, and wonder why these successful, erudite, honorable people are not the role models in the black community and why they are not the spokespeople the MSM looks to for commentary on racial and equality issues. And you realize that it's about control. How can you control people that are indpendent enough to earn a living without your benificence? You can't. The constant victimhood, the politically correct speech, quotas - all are nothing more than an attempt to keep blacks, and other minorities, subjugated. The lefties talk equality but they all know that "some pigs are more equal than others." Thanks to voices like Townhall and others that tend to be identified as conservative, the thinking of good people like Ms. Parker is getting out a lot better than it used to. May their numbers ever increase.

Racial, religous and ethnic anamosities.
...are the carrion on which the leftist/liberals feed. Where would they be if they weren't dividing one group against another with their phony patronage. Their eternal race consciousness is the real racism.

All too often they can take down a white conservative with simple ad homonym name calling, but it's a bit more difficult for a conservative member of their client groups who refuses to follow the script - but that doesn't stop them from venting even more viciously against the rebels, for which they readily receive free passes from the greater social arbiters (i.e. media).

It's easy to rally the weak minded and ignorant to slogans but as skip says, it's difficult one on one since the bankruptcy of their arguments and the meanness of their positions are exposed under determined cross examination.

Star is a standout who has found a career documenting the liberal hypocrisy and, until there is no longer the leftist/liberal threat to our American ideals of fairness and equal justice, we must all continue to debunk the leftist partisan tripe liberals tirelessly spew.

Skip et al
Congratulations Skip on your ability to go your own way. I'll bet you do drive some people nuts. I will pay particular attention to your comments on ethic matters involving your ethnic group. It can be easy to overlook items more apparent to someone whose ox is getting gored.

Mr.Right
I have met J.C. Watts. A terrific gentleman, great speaker. I got pretty disgusted when he left the House. I no longer send him campaign money and he no longer sends me a Christmas card. I would love to see him get back into politics. I hope Lynn Swann takes some part of his place.

Jerubaal
Agreed

Sloopy
The thoughtless PC inconsistency and hypocracy of the left drives me to hopeless frustration and scares me that so many basically well meaning people have made themselves enemies of all they profess to care for. Kill babies, no death penalty for murderers and spies, against the law to break a bird's egg, free human abortion, and on and on. AAaarrrrrrgghH.

Totally wrong about Survivor
Survivor is more then just four ethnic groups stranded on an island. For those who have never competed in anything in their lives will not see it for what it is, Pure competition. In road running you always have ethnic groups banding together out of friendship, to keep each other company while they're running a race. Survivor didn't invent the idea of keeping groups separated based on ethnically. People do that themselves. You just have those who see the color of skin before they see anything else. There is nothing wrong in what Survivor has done. If you want to play the race card and miss an exciting show because of your hang ups, go for it. It's your loss.

Fed a line

Survivor is a pretend show about a pretend problem.

want reality? go to Iraq,Iran, or Washington DC after sundown. Spend the night, then talk about survival.

Parker's cashing in
For Star to desire that everyone be judged by character and not race, it's amusing that roughly 70% of her articles deal with race. (About another 25% deal with abortion). Star's a very smart woman. No doubt she realizes that being a black conservative can be very lucrative. I wonder how much money she makes saying things that white people don't say for fear of being tagged with the "racist" label? If her's is a message that black people need to hear, why is she posting it on this web site? Let's be honest. How many black people do you think actually visit Townhall?

If Star wants to be used as a townhall token, that's fine with me. But to say she's an independent thinker is totally wrong. She is simply part of the "diversity" crew at townhall that knows how to bark when her chain is pulled.


BTW, I have great respect for Armstrong Williams and Thomas Sowell because, unlike Star, they are black conservatives who are talented and secure enough to do columns in which race is never mentioned.

CORRECTION
I've just breezed through Parker's archives, and I must make a correction. Roughly 90% of her articles (I stated 70% earlier) deal with race in some fashion or another. This woman is more fixated with race than I thought.

Whatever she writes
It appears to me that Star Parker deals in common sense. I realize this is difficult for leftist/socialists.

Clinto fan
Are you nuts? There are black posters on Townhall. There are black conservatives in America. Your sneering comment about Star being a token at Townhall is not only insulting, it also epitomizes the racism of leftists like yu.


Star Parker writes about an issue that directly concerns her and other black people in America. Her own experience with the welfare system liberals have used to keep poor people on the Democrat Party's plantation has led her away from that dependency on the government. I'd rather see her cashing in on her ability to write about the issue of race, than creeps on the left like like Jessie Jackson pimping the issue for profit.


When you talk about her being a member of a Townhall "diversity" crew, who barks when her chain is pulled you insult Townhall and black conservatives.


It does show where your head is though, and is representitive of leftist, racist hypocrites. You want diversity crews? Go to the universities, where whole departments are made up of nothing but diversity parasites. They are all leftists like you, and certainly cash in on keeping the diversity cash cow producing.


If this was not Townhall I would introduce you to an old black cultural institution. It is called playing the dozens, and addresses the ancestry of an opponent you wish to offend. That means you leftie.

Clinton Fan
Typically of the left, you could not logically disagree with Miss Parker so you descended to impuning her motives and name calling.

You claim that Miss Parker is 'cashing in' on being a black conservative and support that by noting that most of her columns deal with race. When did it become offensive to liberals to be paid for their work product? Are we to understand that her being black or her being conservative or both disqualify her from commenting on race?

According to your twisted logic, Miss Parker should not be writing about matters of race because she is a black conservative (conservative being the more important word here), she doesn't agree with liberal views on race, and she has the timerity to point out the disastrous results of 40 years of liberal policies on race.

But you show your true colors when you call her a 'townhall token'. Do you think your PC avoidance of the implied term 'token nig_ger' hides your basic racism?

You disgust me.


Skip
When discussing based on emotion as opposed to reason, you will lose the argument every time.
1st, I know there are other African-American columnist on townhall. I named two that I admire and respect greatly. But there are others, i.e. Walter Williams, Ward Connerly, Star Parker, that take great delight in ridiculing and patronizing anything associated with African-American thought.

2nd, I stated that for a person who thinks race should be an after-thought and character should be of primary importance, an overwhelming number of her columns deals with race in some form. If you don't believe me, look through her column archives. There are many conservative issues she can tackle. There's the war on terror, out of control government spending, gay marriage, etc. But nearly everything she writes about deals with race in some form. Even when she deals with her second favorite issue (abortion) she writes as if only black people have them. Now tell me why she should not be considered a race-hustling, race baiting, right-wing, female Jesse Jackson?

As for the black bloggers on townhall, I don't know how many visit this sight. I do know that every black member of congress is a democrat. Virtually every black mayor of a major U. S. city is a democrat. Black people vote democrat at roughly a 90% rate. From these facts, it's safe to assume that not many African-Americans visit this site. If her message isn't reaching black people on this site, who do you think is enjoying her rants against the black community? You guessed it!!!!


Finally, I've taken the high road in responding to your post so far. That's about to change. Being African-American myself, I know a little about black culture. I enjoy honest, wholesome debate, but playing the dozen has always been fun to me too. Anytime you want to engage me, please feel free. Don't let townhall stop you. As long as you have ancestor, and I'm sure you do, I'll always have a comeback. It's your move, righty.

Riverking and Baseballdr
Riverking, you did not refute any of my points. You simply defended her right to do it, and you know what, so do I. I simply pointed out the fact that she was a race hustler. If Jesse Jackson can do it, I have no problem with her doing it. Idiots like you need to realize that they are one in the same, just on the opposite ends of the political spectrum. If roughly 90% of your columns deal with race (and not one blogger who has attacked me dispute that point), then you are profiting from racial discontent. If you are profiting from racial politics, the least you can do is stop knocking others that profit from it also. BTW, me disgusting someone like you makes me feel better about myself.


Baseballdr, three of my four sisters are married and none of their wedding sheets was befouled by a diseased wilderbeest (whatever that is). Sorry to disappoint you.

Libs again trying to shame the....
....opposition out of the debate. Suggesting that although liberal black pundits can obsess about racial relations from a leftist point of view, it is somehow inappropriate for a black person from the right to do the same from a different, more conservative one. Call them a few names, question their self esteem, imply an Uncle Tom status, and maybe you can discredit the conservative black person's position without ever having to actually address it. Or better yet, shame them into never daring to repeat it.

Tolerance and diversity, leftist style.

Clinton Fan
You seem to overlook Ms Parker's real job. She is the head of Coalition on Urban Renewal and Education, which immerses her in race issues. She writes about what she knows.

Anyone with some extra pocket change can donate to her organization at http://www.urbancure.org

Wisolman
That's a very valid point. My only gripe is that if you read her columns, you would think racism only goes one way. This is no better than Jesse J. or Al Sharpton only speaking about "white racism". Your point is well taken though.

comments and questions
Great nation or reality show? Both.

Can we at least agree on how idiotic ALL those shows are? (Need a laugh - just imagine some up-and-coming Islamofascist being forced to watch one).

What are al sharpton's qualifications besides the color of his skin? Is he a racist? Same with jesse jackson.

harry belafonte - day light's come - time to go home. And no, hb, Condeleeza Rice and Colin Powell are not 'house negroes' as you described them.

some day, not yet not tomorrow but some day the race card will no longer be played.

Some day.

Applause!
Star Parker has again told it exactly like it is and I look forward to her articles.

Clinton Fan
How many black people do you think actually visit Townhall?

More than you might imagine. Wasn't going to post a comment here, but Clinton Fan obviously does not comprehend the number of black folks that visit this site...myself included.

Keep up the good work that you do Star ! We need as many voices such as your's to counter the destructive messages we get from our so called "black leaders"....Jackson, Sharpton, etc., they do not speak for me, and they do not represent the things that would move us forward as a race and as a nation.


Clinton Fan the Racist
Clinton Fan writes:
"I stated that for a person who thinks race should be an after-thought and character should be of primary importance, an overwhelming number of her columns deals with race in some form. If you don't believe me, look through her column archives."

Let me see if I have this straight. "A person who thinks race should be an after-thought and character should be of primary importance" should make no attempt to advance that opinion unless they can do so without mentioning 'race'?

Is that your point? That if one has an agenda on race relations and how we deal with them in this country, they must try to advance that agenda without actually mentioning it? To do so is simply 'cashing in' and playing the role of 'token'?

I find your remarks to be incredibly condenscending and racist. I find your claim that you "have great respect for Armstrong Williams and Thomas Sowell" to be very unconvincing and a probable attempt to hide your racist agenda.

You say "unlike Star, they are black conservatives who are talented and secure enough to do columns in which race is never mentioned. First of all, if you actually read them regularly, you would know that your statement is not true. Not even close. Here are excerpts from three of Thomas Sowell last Five columns.

The new nomenklatura
By Thomas Sowell
Wednesday, September 6, 2006
"Their economic ethnic cleansing has driven tens of thousands of blacks out of some liberal Democratic counties.
There were 79,000 blacks living in San Francisco in 1990 and 46,000 today. "

Random thoughts
By Thomas Sowell
Tuesday, August 29, 2006
"Too many intellectuals act as if they are press agents for blacks -- who do not need press agents but who do need the truth."

Race and economics
By Thomas Sowell
Friday, August 25, 2006
"For decades, one of the biggest blind spots of most civil rights "leaders" and "spokesmen" for the black community has been their utter lack of knowledge of economics."

As for Armstrong Williams, here are excerpts from 3 of his last 10 articles:

Katrina
By Armstrong Williams
Monday, September 4, 2006
"Why does it seem that a disproportionate number of Blacks are still in crisis?"

Recipe for Celebrating Memorial Day
By Armstrong Williams
Monday, May 29, 2006
"Some were still relegated to the back of the bus because of the color of their skin; others
never lived long enough to see the civil rights legislation of the 60s."

Diversity
By Armstrong Williams
Monday, May 15, 2006
"Of course my critics would be quick to misrepresent what I've written above as an endorsement of affirmative action."

Your professed 'admiration' for Sowell and Williams for being 'talented and secure enough to do columns in which race is never mentioned' was an only too obvious attempt to distract from your racist remarks. I have never even seen a comment from you on one of their columns and you quite clearly don't even read them if you think they don't mention race.

As far as your attempt to deligitimize Star Parker's discussions on racial subjects, good luck! Perhaps you can be our 'token' racist here in the TownHall comments section.

"I admire and respect greatly"
If 3 out of 10 articles is representative of how often Armstrong Williams discusses race, he does so in 30% of his articles. If 3 out of 5 is representative of Thomas Sowell, he discusses race in 60% of his articles.

So much for Clinton Fan's assertion that they are "black conservatives who are talented and secure enough to do columns in which race is never mentioned."

So much for Clinton Fan's assertion that "I named two that I admire and respect greatly."

He doesn't have a clue what they actually write about. They are just the 'tokens' he unwisely chose to profess a fondness for with actually bothering to find out anything about them.

Sloopy
Based on my above posts, most people would probably come to the conclusion that I enjoy honest dialogue and I don't dismiss the views of people that disagree with me too easily. What makes this country great is our ability to disagree, and hopefully at the end of the day still engage in agreeable behavior. I've said all that to say this, and Sloopy, these comments are intended for you and no other townhall bloggers. I DON'T GIVE A S&&T WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT ME. I COULD CARE LESS IF YOU THINK I'M A RACIST. YOU NOT LIKING ME MAKES ME FEEL BETTER ABOUT MYSELF WHEN I LOOK IN THE MIRROR.

I've been on townhall long enough to know that you, Brian R., and N_Idaho_SOB don't look to engage in dialogue, but only look to smear anyone that disagree with you. I've stated that I admire Sowell and Williams, and I do. If you don't believe it, too damned bad. Unlike you and the ilk I've mentioned above, I don't have to comment on every article written by townhall. I mostly don't comment on Sowell or Williams articles because 95% of the time I agree with them. I know very well that they engage in topics involving race. My point is that they do plenty of articles in which race is never mentioned. Can you say that about Star?

And for you to site 3 out of ten articles in which Williams mentioned race and compare it to Parker mentioning race (or abortion) in nearly every article shows that you really don't want to engage in dialogue. And on top of that, I never said she shouldn't comment on race. My point is if you (Star Parker) are dealing with racially oriented topics at a 90% clip and Jesse Jackson is doing the same thing, how can you criticize him?

Now feel free to send whatever attacks you wish my way. Better yet, when giving your opinion of me in the future, write it down on paper and send it to me via U. S. mail. It will come in handy when I'm running low on toilet tissue.


P.S. To the other townhall bloggers, this post in no way reflects the way I feel about you. There are a lot of great bloggers on this site and I enjoy the back and forth.


Sloopy
One last thing Sloopy. As long as you are blogging on townhall, I could never be the only racist on the site.

Race Card -vs- Discussing Racial Issues
First off I would like to say that I enjoy Ms. Parker's essays quite a bit. Her writing style and many of her points I feel are an easy read and often I agree with her.

I wanted to honestly respond to Clinton Fan's comments. Please take them in the light they are meant (which is to say a forum for open and thoughtful discussion).

I disagree that Ms. Parker belongs in the same category as some other "racial leaders" seem to belong. I often hear about Rev. Sharpton and Jesse Jackson flying in to the most bizarre legal and "media friendly" cases, using every opportunity to put their faces in front of the TV cameras in what I can only guess is some twisted need to be in the media forefront as often as is possible. No matter how strange or base the situation may be if they can utter the words "This person is only in this situation because they are a member of the black minority," then they seem to literally jump at the opportunity. In many cases it seems that race is not even an issue, until they show up and make it that way. Perhaps I misread some of their intentions, but in my mind they are truly playing the race card.

I would not put Star Parker in the category at all. I would put her in the category of someone who has made her name by discussing racial issues. Sometimes in a positive light and sometimes not, depending on what the situation warrants. You never hear Sharpton or Jackson say that they are truly not speaking for all black people. From what they say you would assume that they believe themselves the highest authority on all things black. Ms. Parker simply calls them on the fact that they do not speak for all blacks. There are those who feel and think differently and I think it is courageous of her to do that in spite of the horrible things that likely get said about her (most likely from both sides of the fence).

Dr. King made it his life's mission to discuss and enact change for black people everywhere. I am not so bold as to put Ms. Parker in that category, but it would seem she is very interested in "rocking the boat" and hoping to enact changes. Jackson and Sharpton seem to be about keeping the status quo and making sure that those people that they "hold the ear of" keep on doing what they are doing. Vote Democrat for the sake of voting Democrate and no matter what anyone tells you, always remember you are a victim.

Ms. Parker would seem to want people to start thinking for themselves and recognize they are something more than the victim that so many Democratic leaders insist that they are and always will be.

Do you really believe that puts her in the same category as the other two? I submit that is not the case. Even during the times when I disagree with some of the points she makes. I see her as so much more than a mere "dog" of a conservative website. I hope that on some level you would agree that is the case.

Well, enough babble...
Take care!

Skip
Hoooowee, you gutted him/her Skip. And you didn't even have to say Yo' Mama.

Clinton fan of 12:50
Your language is gentile. Thank you. But this is a forum of ideas. Miss Parker's are no more or less valid, no matter how often she expresses them, or Al Sharpton or Jesse J say something else. Now. Where do you agree or disagree with her?

Clinton Fan
Clinton Fan writes: Monday, September, 18, 2006 4:17 PM
"Sloopy
One last thing Sloopy. As long as you are blogging on townhall, I could never be the only racist on the site."


Really? And you base this on......?????????

I gave reason's for my opinion of you. Your response was " I DON'T GIVE A S&&T WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT ME. I COULD CARE LESS IF YOU THINK I'M A RACIST."

Very convincing rebuttal. Not.

I take that to mean you have no excuse for stating that these men 'never' mention race and being proven so abysmally ignorant of what these men you so greatly admire actually write about.

Clinton Fan writes:"There are many conservative issues she can tackle."

Yes, there are. But not everyone writes on a whole range of topics. Parker is hardly unique in that. You just don't happen to approve of her particular area of specialty. Rebecca Hagelin tends to concentrate on parenting. Roger Schlesinger concentrates on personal finances. Linda Chavez tends to focus on unions and immigration. John Stossel challenges conventional wisdom and corruption. Brent Bozell focuses on media Bias. Thomas Sowell specializes in economics and race issues.

Yet you have villified none of these columnists for a failure to tackle a more divisified list of conservative issues. Explain to me why their specialties are okay but Parker's is not.

Clinton Fan writes: "..I never said she shouldn't comment on race."

No, you didn't. You said

"Parker's cashing in"

"If Star wants to be used as a townhall token, that's fine with me."

"I stated that for a person who thinks race should be an after-thought and character should be of primary importance, an overwhelming number of her columns deals with race in some form. "

"She is simply part of the "diversity" crew at townhall that knows how to bark when her chain is pulled."

"Now tell me why she should not be considered a race-hustling, race baiting, right-wing, female Jesse Jackson?"

Are you saying all of this does not imply that there is something wrong with Parker writing about race?

As I said in my last post,
Let me see if I have this straight. "A person who thinks race should be an after-thought and character should be of primary importance" should make no attempt to advance that opinion unless they can do so without mentioning 'race'?

Is that your point? That if one has an agenda on race relations and how we deal with them in this country, they must try to advance that agenda without actually mentioning it? To do so is simply 'cashing in' and playing the role of 'token'?

Why don't you explain to me how Parker's attempt to advance the agenda of judging people by their character RATHER than by their skin color makes her a "race-hustling, race baiting, right-wing, female Jesse Jackson?"

How do her columns advancing this race-neutral vision compare to Jesse Jackson's hustling business companies for massive amounts of cash in order to NOT hurt them finacially through boycotts and witch hunts?

Please explain to me how that compares. Please explain to me how Parker should advance her vision of a color-blind society without mentioning race. Or should I assume that what you are really saying is that her vision of a color blind society where people are judged on their character rather than their skin color is NOT to be desired and THAT is why she shouldn't be concentrating on this issue?

Clinton Fan
Clinton Fan you been taken to task by many others, but I thought I throw in my two cents. You write that Star Parker should not write about race so much. I wonder if you also think she should not write about Christianity. I would guess that ninety-nine percent of her columns mention Christianity. Should she as a devout Christian instead write about Islam or Judaism to paraphrase: "…Christians who are talented and secure enough to do columns in which Christianity is never mentioned?"

Mr. Williams and Mr. Sowell are economist should they be "…economist who are talented and secure enough to do columns in which economics is never mentioned."

In addition, you have no idea how Black people actually vote. Yes, there are concentrations of Black people living in places that are run by the Democratic Party. However, the majority of Black people do not live in those places. What I mean is Mississippi is about 37 percent Black, and Texas is about 12 percent Black, but twice as many Blacks live in Texas (2,674,616) as live in Mississippi (1,074,960). Do you think only ten percent of the Blacks in Texas vote Republican? Do you think that ninety percent of the Blacks in Mississippi voted against Haley Barbour? We really do not know how Blacks vote because pollsters find it easier and more cost effective to over sample places with large concentrations of Black people then to try to gage the opinions of Blacks that live in more dispersed areas.

The election for Mayor in Washington DC was probably decided in the democratic primary. Ninety percent of DC voters are registered democrats. If you do not run in the Democratic primary, your chances of being elected are very slim. If you do not vote in the Democratic primary, your chances of having a say in your government are very slim. I imagine you think that is a good thing. I think most Blacks who are not democrats just move away from those types of places -- Why live in a ghetto if you do not have to.

Do you actually imagine that Blacks are well served by their Democratic mayors? I have not read of a majority Black city with a Black mayor that did not have high taxes, high crime and failing schools. Yet the voters vote the same party in again and again and again (can we say insanity.) Most Blacks vote with their feet. Most majority Black cities have declining populations. New Orleans may stay chocolate, but it will have a smaller population. Even the Blacks who went to Utah are staying there rather return to New Orleans, because in Utah they found jobs, a lower crime rate and better schools.


Clinton Fan writes: Monday, September, 18, 2006 12:50 PM
Wisolman
That's a very valid point. My only gripe is that if you read her columns, you would think racism only goes one way. This is no better than Jesse J. or Al Sharpton only speaking about "white racism". Your point is well taken though.


What does that mean? Is Star Parker writing about Black racism? What is the one way she is writing?

One more thought as long as there are race baiters out there they must be answered. I appreciate that Star Parker and Larry Elders raise to the occasion. As an economist, I greatly appreciate the writings of Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams. Of course, writers should write about topics they know best. I look to Maggie Gallagher for great columns about marriage, and Brent Bozell III for great columns about TV shows I would never ever watch.

Cew-smoke
Your points are well taken. If I were to read one article by Star, I would probably agree with it. It's when I read a collection of articles by her that I start to question her agenda. Racism exists on both sides, but she only tackles the racism (or shortcomings) of the black community, and rarely emphasizes any positives coming from the same community. This is the same thing that Jackson and Sharpton does on the left. Put it like this. Sharpton and Jackson play to the "perceived" racism by white people (police brutality, hiring discrimination, etc.) to maintain power and leadership in the black community. Star plays to "perceived" favoritism in the black community (affirmative action, welfare, job quotas) to gain favoritism in the white community. I'll grant you, Star may not be as bad because she doesn't have the stature of a Sharpton or Jackson, but she is of the same mold. Both sides may have valid points, but both sides only discuss racism when it fits their agenda.
Well cew-smoke (how did you get that blog name), we may not totally agree (I do agree with a lot of you points), but I hope I provided insight into my reason for posting my original point.

Clinton Fan . . .
you posted (11:50) that Walt Williams, Ward Connerly and Star Parker "take great delight in ridiculing and patronizing anything associated with African-American thought."

Tell me, C.F., what exactly is "African-American" thought?

Is it the same as plain ol' American thought? Or Canadian thought? Nigerian thought?

Is "African-American thought" based on Kierkegaard? Nietzsche? Locke and Hobbes? A Saturday Night Live skit from the 1970's?

Lastly, can a po' white boy like me understand "African-American thought" without giggling?

Pistol
Please read my 5:53 post to Cew-smoke. I also agree that she does a good job encouraging African-Americans to work harder and rely less on government. I agree with her position on (partial birth) abortion. Where I disagree is she often speaks only to black people about problems that exists in every community. When discussing abortion, she almost 100% of the time singles out the black community. Now I know black women have abortions at a higher rate than white women, but is abortion any less evil in the white community? Is this not a topic that you can address to women of any community?


Also, I've known of 3 speaking engagements that she had and every last one was in front of virtually an all white audience. I'm not knocking that, but if your message is intended for downtrodden black people, how is speaking in front of an audience that's void of African-Americans accomplishing that goal? Bill Cosby is very critical of the shortcomings in the black community. But Bill Cosby makes his comments in front of the very people who need to hear it the most. When Star does this, it will be easier for me to believe her sincerity in seeing the black community overcome. Take care, buddy.

Final Word
Allow me to put it like this for Christiancon, Davidmac and Sloopy. This is her specialty and that's fine. Point well taken. Just remember, the next time you see Sharpton and Jackson tackling what they perceive to be racism on the right, please don't come with the race baiting, race hustling euphamisms. After all, combating racism (even perceived racism) is their area of expertise. It's what they know best.

Clinton Fan
Reading your last, i started to nit pick and then it came to me we are not really talking about what is going on. Stature is not a word i'd use in connection with Sharpton or Jesse, but if you see stature and left/right equivalence there, you may have more light, be standing on a higher box. Why argue? Celtic-dragon picks up gender issues i don't see. Am i blind or is she delusional? I enjoy learning mode. I defend Parker (so far as my internal psycho bable informs me) because she is touching on several of my button issues. I support her thesis that the current implementation of the 60's civil rights movement and the well intended LBJ war on poverty have well nigh canceled out the gains that upwardly mobile blacks have achieved. People like Parker, Connerly and Cosby and let's not forget William Rasberry, support the opinion that a large segment of our black population is committing economic suicide and they find this appalling. They suggest the first move is to ignore concentrating on obstacles like poverty, lousy schools and racism, and focus on opportunity and the moves to make to exploit what's available. As a patriotic American who wants the strongest most prosperous nation possible, and as a man with a strong paternal streak who would rather watch fat happy laughing kids than malnourished cocaine babies, i concur. You may see other ways
to achieve this goal. Perhaps you blame racism, inadequate affirmative action, the failure to achieve reparations or perhaps not enough white guilt. These all exist, but compared to what? Where is it better? Where more fair?
I submit you criticize Parker because she pushes some button in you far deeper than whether she talks too much about racism. To me her subject is not so much racism, but leaving racism behind.

Survivor Episodes
I used to watch survivor. It used to be funny, now it just bugs me. Which is probably why they are always trying new and more idiotic ways of capturing an audience.
The race issue thing bores me. Although I thouroughly enjoyed the a** whupping Clinton Fan got.
But seriously, Jeff should retire the show. It has run it's course.
What they really need are some new concepts, not the same old thing with new groupings, like:
Survivor; Fire Ant Island
Survivor; Naked in Antartica
Survivor; How long before they turn Cannibal?
Survivor; Stone Age VS Iron Age


Survivors will end up Americans first
A true conservative waits a while to make a judgment call instead of jumping to conclusions. Kneejerks are totally liberal. The premise can be judged but it's too soon to be judging the actual way that the entire season will end up as. So we shall see if Parker is on target or not.
This seasons Survivor was the lowest rated opening episode ever.
The first episode featured each segregrated group making racial stereotypical remarks or jokes related to their own group. They never showed someone in one group making disparaging remarks or tasteless racial jokes against the other group--which is really a fantasy because who hasn't heard a racial joke or a racial stereotype spoken in mixed company? They also made it a big deal that only in America could you get so many different groups of people like this together to compete against one another. In other words they want to showcase our ethnic diversity. Typical liberal goo- but there you have it.
Anyhow I think that the main thrust of this season is going to end up being that these groups are all Americans first and they'll 'prove' it in some fasion.
So all of these pundits who were quick to pull the trigger against the show could end up being too quick to judge.

OK Clinton Fan.
Lets get it on. In response to your unemotional, well thought out points, I will address them one at a time.

1.

Walter Williams, Ward Connerly and Star Parker do not "patronize anything associated with African-American thought".


Walter is an economist, and frequently addresses that subject. Many times he does not make any reference to race. He does frequently point out the absurdity of liberal economic policy. I fail to see how you could claim that he patronizes African-American thought.

2.

As to Star Parker positing that race should be an after thought, and character of primary importance, I can understand your observation regarding the number of her articles that deal with race. I do not agree that she is a race hustling, race baiting, right wing, female Jessie Jackson.


I do think that you are presuming to dictate what Star can write about. Many writers write about what they know. She is certainly free to do that. To try and compare her to Jessie Jackson is ludicrous. Jessie never addresses any thing except race. You conceded that Star Parker has a second issue that she addresses, so you contradict yourself. That issue is abortion.


OK. Perhaps Jessie has written about the devastating impact abortion has had on the black community. I just haven't seen it anywhere. Just think about the immoral culture that is so much a part of today's black culture. Abortion certainly plays some role in indiscriminate sexual activity by young black people.


The perverted gangsta rap phenomenon has also become a factor in the degeneration of the black community. Are you suggesting that Star's econd favorite issue is not appropriate. When is the last time you saw that poverty pimping, race hustling Jessie Jackson even mention those kinds of issues? If I remember correctly, Jessie and Al chastised Bill Cosby for airing our dirty linen in public. You know, don't talk about this in front of white people. The truth is that Jessie is too busy threatening weak kneed corporations into paying him off to avoid boycotts by blacks, to talk about anything else.


3.

As far as how many blacks are blogging on Townhall, I am just like you. I don't know. I was surprised when you said that you are. (Allow me to say welcome aboard Bro).


You lost me with your recitation of how many blacks are Democrats. No question, our people overwhelmingly vote the Democrat ticket. There are various reasons for that.


Among them are the indoctrination of black children by leftists in the educational system. Add to that the role of the Black Caucus and the NAACP, that are not only black, but also far to the left politically. I don't remember any articles in Time, or Newsweek or anywhere in the MSM about the growing number of black conservatives in America.


Do you think that maybe that has something to do with the way too many blacks vote? Think about it. A dumbed down, aggrieved black population that has been brain washed into believing that white people are responsible for all the problems we face. Add to that the free government money the Democrats tax us all for to redistribute to the welfare system. How do you expect them to vote?


As to who is enjoying Star's rants against the black community, I assume you are referring to the whites who blog on Townhall. Hey! First of all, I don't consider what Star writes as being rants against our community. That you do, gives a clue as to the level of hostility you have for her. It also suggests that you may have been infected by the leftist virus. Get it checked out man. That virus is deadly, home boy.


Regarding the whites who read and enjoy Star Parker, I don't know how to stop that. In fact I can't deny them a pleasure that I enjoy myself. That would be discriminatory, wouldn't it.


Now, finally, lets get to the nitty grit. Playing the dozens? Son, you don't want to go there. You can't stand the dozens the way I play the dozens. (To steal a line from that nut case, Jack Nicholson).


So lets just take the high road here. Let us engage in serious debate, and eschew vitriolic, ad hominum attaks on those we disagree with. Can't we just get along? (I forgot who uttered that plaintive question, but it is a valid one). I think the guy was from Mexifornia. (Formerly California). I look forward to your very reasoned and erudite response.


P.S. How is the old girl getting along these days? I havn't seen her since I was in the Navy.


Skip or somebody
I think Clinton Fan may have bitten off more than he could chew. He did ok while he lasted, but dang it, we couldn't seem to get him off attacking Miss Parker for talking about race. If he didn't have buried hangups i'd be surprised. I know i have them. I've spent years hauling stuff up so it could melt in the light of day. New information is so healing. I have some precious opinions, but they are all subject to the integration of new data. I like to hear from the lefties so i can deal from familiarity rather than ignorance.

Skip
The now-famous phrase, "Can't we all just get along?" was uttered by a very drunk Rodney King during the LA riots that occurred when the cops who beat him up were acquited.

A diligent TV reporter found the bar he was drinking in and shoved a mike in front of his face.

Pistol
We all have hang ups. When it comes to race lots of those hang ups are buried, but still affecting who we are and how we perceive things.


I have harbored a lot of hatred for whites in my life. Based on how things were racially when I was growing up, that was probably a natural reaction. (I was born in 1935).


We all have suffered from the reality of America's racial history. We are still suffering from it. I thank God that I was never able to hate all white people. The truth is that in my lifetime I have suffered as many wounds from black people as I did from whites.


There is no way that I can ever forget what it was like to be black in America's racist society. I can't even find it in me to forgive those whites who perpetrated atrocities on my people. They were sick, despicable people, who had been raised to believe that their attitudes and behaviors were correct.


My inability to forgive those people is not something that I like about myself. I try very hard to be a Christian, and to live according to scripture. Of course I fail miserably. The irritation I experienced reading the posts of Clinton Fan, and others who are far more objectionable to me than he/she is, shows me that I have a long way to go.


One thing I am sure of. We are blessed to live in America. My children and my grandchildren are free to work and prosper in ways that were closed to me as I grew up. The good news is that America has confronted its past, and largely corrected the injustices of the past.


I am no pollyanna. I know that there are racists in today's America. There always will be. Racism is a crutch. It supports blacks as well as whites. They need desperately to believe that they are superior just by virtue of their race. They are sick people, and they know better. Deep down inside they know better.


I decided a long time ago to try to forget my grievances against white Americans. I pray that my people do the same. It is entirely in all of our self interests to begin to work together to protect what we have, and we all have far more than most people on the planet who were not blessed to have been born here.


I can't help feeling contempt for those people who are invested in keeping the grievances of my people alive. They do this for their own benefit, and I am sure that most of them are cynical people who really have contempt for most black people. These individuals do not in any way consider themselves to be average. They are elitists.


The Congressional Black Caucus, the NAACP and Urban League have nurtured black resentment and dependence. Most of them are leftists, who are really hostile to America. That they prosper here does not stop them from doing everything they can to foment trouble between the races and they always work to foster class warfare.


I am convinced that leftists represent the greatest threat to the continued existence of America that has ever existed. Their hatred for the country encourages the monsters who are totally committed to destroying each and every one of us.


If we do not defeat the left inside of our borders we can never defeat the jihadists. I don't know how things are going to turn out. I pray a lot.

Addressing your Issues, CF
If I understand you correctly, you are now complaining (for lack of a better word) about three things:
1)Star Parker isn't making her case to a black-dominated audience
2)Star Parker is as much a race hustler as Jesse Jackson
3)Star Parker only tackles the racism of the black community.

1.
Clinton Fan writes:
"Also, I've known of 3 speaking engagements that she had and every last one was in front of virtually an all white audience.

I hardly think it is fair to blame Star Parker for not making her case in front of the black community. Bill Cosby did not only make his statements at a 'black event'. I know he also gave interviews on the subject (one I remember was to the Wash. Post) How many 'black events' has he spoken at since? (crickets chirping)

Might that be because he has not been invited back?? As I recall, he was nearly universally judged to be a traitor by 'black leaders' and by liberals in general for having made such remarks. Are you aware of any such invitations Star Parker has recieved that she has turned down? Or might it be that the same attitude that you presented earlier in this thread has blocked her ( you know, the part about "token" and "knows how to bark when her chain is pulled."
I think it is clearly absurd to blame her for not speaking often enough to soley black audiences to please you. I don't think there is any chance she receives regular invitations to such events, if any.
How many such engagements has Condi Rice been invited to speak at? How many times has she been called the 'token' and 'Aunt Jemima.

I do know that Parker's biography says that "Star Parker is the founder and president of CURE, the Coalition on Urban Renewal & Education, a 501c3 non-profit organization that provides national dialogue on issues of race and poverty in the media, inner city neighborhoods, and public policy."

Her biography also states that "Nationwide, Star shares her story and policy suggestions through college and church lectures, community outreaches, and empowerment conferences for inner city pastors. She has hosted radio talk shows in Christian and secular markets."

Clinton Fan writes: "But Bill Cosby makes his comments in front of the very people who need to hear it the most. When Star does this, it will be easier for me to believe her sincerity in seeing the black community overcome."

Is it now easier for you to believe her sincerity? Because the only 3 speaking engagements you know about were to 'white' audiences, you assume that is the only audience she attempts to reach. That's a pretty big leap on your part.

2.
Clinton Fan writes:
"I simply pointed out the fact that she was a race hustler. If Jesse Jackson can do it, I have no problem with her doing it. Idiots like you need to realize that they are one in the same, just on the opposite ends of the political spectrum. If roughly 90% of your columns deal with race (and not one blogger who has attacked me dispute that point), then you are profiting from racial discontent."

Your assumption that I think Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are 'race baiting, race hustling' men is, of course, correct. I could not both agree with Star Parker and think otherwise of Jesse Jackson.

Your assumption that Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are race hustling because they spend 90% of their time as public persona's on racial issues is incorrect. It is WHAT they do and HOW they do it and WHO they do it to that so defines them.

Dr. Martin Luther King spent the majority of his time as a public persona on racial issues. Certainly there were people who hated him for it, but nobody accused him of doing it for personal aggrandizement or of being a race hustler. I've never heard ANYONE submit the opinion that he did the things he did to get rich or for personal profit. The issue is NOT how much time one spends on the subject.

3.
Clinton Fan writes:
Where I disagree is she often speaks only to black people about problems that exists in every community.

I don't think this is true. You can read a chapter of her new book White Ghetto: How Middle Class America Reflects Inner City Decay on the internet for free. She clearly talks about these problems in relation to the American community as a whole in this book.
You are right that she often concentrates on the problems in the black community, but I don't think your interpretation of this (that she must be saying only the black community has these problems) is correct. I think she is tackling the issues in the community she is closest too, in the community she cares the most about. I see nothing nefarious in this.

The only ones I feel bad for...
... is the white team. God knows that the walls will crumble, the plague of locusts sent down, and the Earth shaken to its very core if a bunch of crackers display any superiority, incidental or not, over any other racial or ethnic group.

Skip
You are doing great Skip. Pain and loss are all too often part of the learning process. We never get perfectly past those experiences and yet we can elevate above them as we explore and express the spiritual side of our nature. I was first exposed to Jim Crow at 12 when my family moved to Florida. I am proud to say my reaction was that separation but equal was humiliating and thus cruel. My first real contact with black people was my first night in the Army. A bunch of strangers in the induction barracks going to sleep at night and a black kid started singing hymns. This white kid happened to know the words so i joined in. Soon there was a lusty chorus. I've taken a few cheap shots from blacks, but far outweighed by the sophisticated support i've received from blacks. Perhaps because of the necessity to handle sticky situations, blacks in my opinion tend to be very socially adept. If they want a person to feel welcome and comfortable, they know how, and the opposite applies. You are doing your best, can the most Perfect Judge ask for anything more? Cheap shot artists of any race do not deserve forgiveness, but two facts help me towards this goal. Most cruel people are coming from misery, trying to feel better by making someone else as miserable. Second, we forgive others so we can forgive ourselves and accept the bounty of prosperity and love with which our Creator endows us. The only things i don't have are those which i was offered and chose to reject. It gives me joy to think of one more good man out there in Montana, doing his level best to preserve the blessings of Liberty for his and my posterity. Do good work, stay healthy, keep in touch.

PS Skip
Whom do you think is happier, you or Clinton Fan? Most lefties are driven by a desire to spread misery equally.
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