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Monday, April 28, 2008
Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison :: Townhall.com Columnist
Undoing America's Ethanol Mistake
by Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison
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The Nobel Prize-winning economist Milton Friedman once said, "One of the great mistakes is to judge policies and programs by their intentions rather than their results."

When Congress passed legislation to greatly expand America's commitment to biofuels, it intended to create energy independence and protect the environment.

But the results have been quite different. America remains equally dependent on foreign sources of energy, and new evidence suggests that ethanol is causing great harm to the environment.

In recent weeks, the correlation between government biofuel mandates and rapidly rising food prices has become undeniable. At a time when the U.S. economy is facing recession, Congress needs to reform its "food-to-fuel" policies and look at alternatives to strengthen energy security.

On Dec. 19, 2007, President Bush signed into law the Energy Independence and Security Act. This legislation had several positive features, including higher fuel standards for cars and greater investment in renewable energies such as solar power.

However, the bill required a huge spike in the biofuel production requirement, from 7.5 billion gallons in 2012 to 36 billion in 2022.

This was a well-intentioned measure, but it was also impractical. Nearly all our domestic corn and grain supply is needed to meet this mandate, robbing the world of one of its most important sources of food.

We are already seeing the ill effects of this measure. Last year, 25% of America's corn crop was diverted to produce ethanol. In 2008, that number will grow to 30%-35%, and it will soar even higher in the years to come.

Furthermore, the trend of farmers supplanting other grains with corn is decreasing the supply of numerous agricultural products. When the supply of those products goes down, the price inevitably goes up.

Subsequently, the cost of feeding farm and ranch animals increases and the cost is passed to consumers of beef, poultry and pork products.

Since February 2006, the price of corn, wheat and soybeans has increased by more than 240%. Rising food prices are hitting the pockets of lower-income Americans and people who live on fixed incomes.

While the blame for higher costs shouldn't rest exclusively with biofuels — drought and rising oil costs are contributing factors — the expansion of biofuels has been a major source of the problem.

The International Food Policy Research Institute estimates that biofuel production accounts for between one-quarter and one-third of the recent spike in global commodity prices.

For the first time in 30 years, food riots are breaking out in many parts of the globe, including major countries such as Mexico, Pakistan and Indonesia.

The fact that America's energy policies are creating global instability should concern the leaders of both political parties.

Restraining the dangerous effects of artificially inflated demand for ethanol should be an issue that unites both conservatives and progressives.

As a recent Time cover story pointed out, biofuel mandates increase greenhouse gasses and create incentives for global deforestation.

In the Amazon basin, huge swaths of forest are being cleared to meet the growing hunger for biofuels.

In addition, relief organizations are facing gaping shortfalls as the cost of food outpaces their ability to provide aid for the 800 million people who lack food security.

The recent food crisis does not mean we should entirely abandon biofuels.

The best way to lower energy prices, and reduce our dependence on foreign oil, is to accelerate production of all forms of domestic energy.

Expanding biofuels while refusing to take other measures, such as lifting the ban on oil and natural gas production in Alaska and the Outer Continental Shelf, is counterproductive. We should be tapping into a broad portfolio of energy options, including clean coal, nuclear power and wave energy.

The key is increasing energy supply. By taking these measures, we can enable biofuels to be part of the energy solution, instead of contributing to the energy problem.

Congress must take action. I am introducing legislation that will freeze the biofuel mandate at current levels, instead of steadily increasing it through 2022.

This is a common-sense measure that will reduce pressure on global food prices and restore balance to America's energy policy.

As the Senate debates this issue, we must remain focused on the facts.

At one point, expanding biofuels made sense for America's energy security. But the recent surge in food prices has forced us to adapt. The global demand for energy and food is expected to rise about 50% in the next 20 years, and the U.S. is well-positioned to be a leader in both areas.

That will require a careful, finely tuned approach to America's farm products.

By freezing the biofuel mandate at current levels, we will go a long way to achieving that goal.

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Senator Hutchison chairs the Senate Republican Policy Committee and is representing Texas in her third full term in the Senate.
Iowa Primary is over
Let's face it, the timing of that mandate for the ever-increasing biofuel requirements came in the leadup to the Iowa Caucuses. All these politicians had to kiss up to the farmers. Hey, the caucuses are over, let's dump the mandates, they were a mistake.

You guys are clueless
Is it any wonder that the average citizen thinks you folks in Washington are clueless? It didn't take a genius to see this coming. Didn't you guys consider for just one second getting the scientists and the economists in the same room? This should have been avoidable.

You talk about freezing the biofuel mandate where it's at. Will that still be corn-based? If so, then you're still not getting it. Get corn out of it. It's NOT the solution. Freezing it where it's at will leave us stuck with these ridiculous prices and those prices will only get worse with additional droughts and increased demand from China and India. Forget corn. Drop it. It's not the solution for our energy sources.

Solutions you should be looking at: cellulosic sources (like waste products from wood, etc.) and algae. An algae-based biofuel plant opened in your home state on April 1st. Have you even heard about it? Using otherwise useless cellulosic byproducts and algae won't impact other markets. You should be throwing BILLIONS of dollars into those industries. Instead, you do things that cripple our economy by jacking up food and oil prices (making Iran and Venezuela and Russia and Saudi Arabia filthy rich in the meantime).

We elect you people in hopes that you'll make out lives a little BETTER, not WORSE. Can you guys try to do something right for a change? If you can't, then quit and let someone take your place who understands the basics of economics.

Food crisis forcing Gore to back away?

Food crisis forcing Gore to back away from biofuels?

Starving the poor to reduce greenhouse gas emmissions?

NYSun: The campaign against climate change could be set back by the global food crisis, as foreign populations turn against measures to use foodstuffs as substitutes for fossil fuels…One factor being blamed for the price hikes is the use of government subsidies to promote the use of corn for ethanol production. An estimated 30% of America’s corn crop now goes to fuel, not food.

Ethanol was initially promoted as a vehicle for America to cut back on foreign oil. In recent years, biofuels have also been touted as a way to fight climate change, but the food crisis does not augur well for ethanol’s prospects. “It takes around 400 pounds of corn to make 25 gallons of ethanol,” Mr. Senauer, also an applied economics professor at Minnesota, said. “It’s not going to be a very good diet but that’s roughly enough to keep an adult person alive for a year.”

Mr. Senauer said climate change advocates, such as Vice President Gore, need to distance themselves from ethanol to avoid tarnishing the effort against global warming. “Crop-based biofuels are not part of the solution. They, in fact, add to the problem. Whether Al Gore has caught up with that, somebody ought to ask him,” the professor said. “There are lots of solutions, real solutions to climate change. We need to get to those.”

However, the scientist who shared the Nobel Peace Prize with Mr. Gore, Rajendra Pachauri of the United Nations’s Intergovernmental Panel of Climate Change, has warned that climate campaigners are unwise to promote biofuels in a way that risks food supplies.

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http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/food-crisis-forcin g-gore-to-back-away-from-biofuels

We didn't get to this point in just the

past 8-10years!

In fact, it started almost 40 years ago!!!

The primary, and pretty much the sole reason is that the "greenie left" has refused to allow us to "... take other measures, such as lifting the ban on oil and natural gas production in Alaska and the Outer Continental Shelf..."

Not to mention no new and refurbished refineries.


So, what do we do now?

1. STOP listening to the greenie libs, and NEVER, EVER let them influence any policies or decisions EVERY AGAIN!

2. Start drilling in Alaska and the Outer Continental Shelf and a few other places where we KNOW there is oil.

3. Allow the oil companies to refurbish and build new refineries.

4. Give tax credits to companies that are invested in solar and wind energy to enable them to improve technology that will make them more affordable.



Don't freeze it, eliminate it!
Corn-based ethanol has been a disaster in ways Senator Hutchison hasn't even touched on. The price of every input to corn production (seeds, fertilizer, herbicide, pesticide and the fuel for tractors and combines) has skyrocketed. Farmers will once again be left holding the bag on this when they have to pay $500 per acre to produce corn where it was closer to $125 per acre just a few short years ago.

Water systems have been dried up near ethanol plants because of the huge volumes of water required to produce ethanol. The water supply in a lot of midwestern towns was pretty tenous to begin with. So the government gives a grant to build an ethanol plant but the local government is on the hook for new wells and/or water sources for the community.

Mikebert has it right - corn is the most ridiculous choice for ethanol. It should not only not be subsidized or mandated by government, it would be more appropriately banned.

Mandates and Subsidies
Senator, please just tell your colleagues to do what is necessary to (i) remove governmental barriers to energy production (and other productive activities); (ii) establish laws which protect me from force or fraud and which apply clear, permanent and reasonable limits on pollution without prescribing technology to meet them; (iii) build a patent system which protects the businessman who invests in new technology; and (iv)THEN STAY OUT OF THE PROCESS.
Every time politicians meddle with technology, or try to guide the economy, they cause problems. Don't freeze mandates--get rid of them. Don't subsidize anything.
BTW, you might consider cutting out the ridiculous subsidies for the sugar industry and for agriculture in general.

Long and short views of biofuels
During an earlier gas crisis of the 1970's, I remember a country singer on TV singing, "Cheaper Crude or No More Food". As long as countries like Mexico supply oil at inflated prices, I'm not going to cry in my ethanol that they can't afford corn. The profusion of E85 vehicles at least leaves us a choice at the pump.

That said, I regard corn as a transitional fuel source until algae and cellulosic sources kick in, which are finally working in the lab and may work in the real world within 5-10 years. Uberefficient, fun, fast vehicles are also starting production in the next 5-10 years, and new hybrid transmission technology is allowing heavy pick-up trucks to start getting better mileage than my 2000 Grand Am, albeit at a substantial mark-up. While biofuels may have hiccups (um, no pun intended) in the short term, in the long term the important thing for world and domestic stablity is to make our own fuel and everyone else's food. Frankly, with all the offshoring, it's about all we've got.

Jersey48
You've expanded the scope of the article in your last paragraph but you've done so admirably. I am a farmer and I will be the first to agree that all ag subsidies should be eliminated. They do much more harm than good.

Your second point about prescribing limits on pollution without prescribing technology needs to be applied to every government regulation in every industry. Government starts with the idea that industry is hell-bent on slowly torturing every last one of their customers to death and it is only the minutely detailed instructions by overbearing bureaucrats that can possibly save the poor unwitting souls. Establish the goal and let the infinitely creative American entrepeneurship take over.

Senator:
You have the statistical data, you have read the news, and you seem to have common sense.

Even though "common sense is not so common anymore", our politicians seems to have even less.

Bio fuels can be the way of the future, but right now are the way of hunger, despair, riots, and need to go back to the drawing board.

The production of ethanol needs to be halted.
Crop land should go back to produce food, not fuel.
Ethanol subsidies need to stop, so as to force farmer to produce regular crops, thus reducing food prices.

Thank you:
http://thinkingamerican.blogtownhall.com

Gee, thanks, Senator
"I am introducing legislation that will freeze the biofuel mandate at current levels, instead of steadily increasing it through 2022."

Current levels are causing food riots and your position is, "Well, we'll abandon our plans to make it even worse."

Gee, thanks, Senator.

No thanks
Too many in Washington, DC who are educated beyond their intelligence.

Stop government interfering with markets.

Cut congressional salaries, eliminate congressional pensions, health care and free postal service.

No base line budgeting.

You can't tell me
the envoironmental elites in Washington and around the world didn't know what would happen.

Subsidies
The real story is that corn belt senators found a way to get their share of federal money, most of which goes to big states with many people.
I hate the way Republucans trash their own success. Ethanol was replacing six percent of gasoline, PRICES WOULD BE EVEN HIGHER WITHOUT IT,
iT HS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIRD WORD RIOTS. However, immigration oddaets the benefits.
I snicker when I reqd about concern for the water us uses. Big rivers in the corn belt, especially the mighy Mississippi.
anyone can tell that greenies are like Mikey. He hates everything!

Get out of the way!
"[H]igher fuel standards for cars" are a drop in the bucket of energy consumption. Besides, I don't want to drive a Prius or a tiny four-banger. And most people share that preference. Forcing U.S. auto companies to produce high-mileage vehicles will only hurt their profits even more. They're already struggling. But I guess Congress can always haul their CEOs into hearings after they have to lay off thousands more workers.

"[G]reater investment in renewable energies such as solar power" is great, if it's done by the private sector. Gov't is notoriously bad at picking winners and losers in the market - that's precisely why centrally-planned economies have proven to be such disasters.

Yes the Law of unintended consequences.
Besides we need to mill that corn into grits and feed the poor ("let'em eat grits!"). Oh my.

Senator, don't pee down my back
and tell me it's raining. Your subsides and epa mandates, are causing this crisis with corn, and food prices. And the worst is yet to come (something tells me food prices will spike even more sometime after the first Tuesday of November!) End the subsides, not freeze them. Drill in ANWR. You ARE the problem. You and your short sighted ilk. Come on out of your ivory towers and see what's really going on. How are we to address you? Your Honorable Moron? How about Your Honorable Well Intended Screw Up?

The plan
Read a quote recently where a globalist said we don't have ENOUGH shortages.

It is very obvious this is a disaster. I will be surprised if they back away from it.

We are running out of water.

“But if more nations achieved independence in food production, much of the impetus for world gov would disappear faster than a freeloader when the check arrives. In order for the Rockefellers to achieve their New word Order, first they must create famines and the fear of further suffering. All that is required to create a famine is to put all agriculture under control of gov. bureaucracy, then wait awhile. The bigger the bureaucracy, the shorter the wait, and international bureaucracy is the 'ne plus ultra' in producing red tape instead of wheat."

“It is Kissinger’s belief, according to his aides, that by controlling food, one can control people, and by controlling energy, especially oil, one can control nations and their financial systems. By placing food and oil under international control along with the world’s monetary system, Kissinger is convinced a loosely knit world gov operating under the frame-work of the United Nations can become a reality..."

ethanol
Ethanol is a disaster in every way. Uses as much oil as it saves. Causes cars to work less efficiently and causes worse air pollution.

“It’s not green in terms of air pollution”, said study author Mark Jacobson, a Stanford University civil and environmental engineering professor. “If you want to use ethanol, fine, but don’t do it based on health grounds. It’s no better than gasoline, apparently slightly worse.”

“…ethanol worsening the ozone problem in most urban areas.”

“The science behind why ethanol increases smog is complicated, but according to Jacobson, part of the explanation is that ethanol produces more hydrocarbons than gasoline. And ozone is the product of hydrocarbons and nitrogen oxide cooking in the sun.

Also, the ethanol produces longer-lasting chemicals that eventually turn into hydrocarbons that can travel farther. “You are spreading out pollution over a larger area”, he said.

And finally, while ethanol produces less nitrogen oxide, that can actually be a negative in some very smoggy places. (most cities!) When an area like Los Angeles reaches a certain high level of nitrogen oxide, that excess chemical begins eating up spare ozone, Jacobson said.

“Hwang agreed that that is a “well-know effect.”

Jacobson is one of the top atmospheric chemist in the nation.

Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison
I hope you are reading the responses here to get a feel for the grass roots. You started out good here but then you dropped the ball when you said we didn't need to abandon bio-fuels. I presume by that you mean the "government" doesn't need to abandon bio-fuels.

Here is what the government needs to do to help the "energy cricis":

1. Eliminate the Energy Department that was created in the Jimmy Carter sweater years.

2. Repeal ALL laws dealing with "energy" including tax breaks associated with all forms of energy.

3. Get government totally out of the energy buisiness as far as the promotion/demotion buisness goes and let the markets sort it out.

4. Allow drilling on any property owned by the oil companies anywhere. Auction drilling rights on government controlled land to the highest bidder.

Once you have done all that, you can then start on dismantling the farm programs.

People like you are the problem

Undoing America's Ethanol Mistake
By Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison

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We do not have an energy crisis.
What we have is a bunch of idiots in government, and that is the main crisis for America.
Idiots.

Get the government out of all energy sources and mind your own damn business for once in your big mouthed life.

I am sick of all of you in government, tonight anyway.

Congress' approval rating
The approval level of Congress is much lower than the anemic rating for President Bush. It is obvious to every American, except the privileged few inside the Beltway, that government has no business in business. Sen. Hutchins and the other 534 members of Congress should concentrate on providing for the common defense and other Constitutional mandates, and let free markets work their magic.

Didn't we fight a war of independence over this?

Undoing America
The most significant comment in this article is, " The best way to lower energy prices, and reduce our dependence on foreign oil, is to accelerate production of all forms of domestic energy."

Ok Senator, where is the action? Someone's hand in the great debating society needs to be called.

We're Commies and we're here to help
Yes we have soaring gasoline prices during an election year and the pols are worried. Hahahaha; they are planning action. The Commiecrats have done everything they can do for the last 30 years to make the price of energy high in order to satisfy their supporters in the eco-idiot branch. It’s just that they don’t like to have the results of that spike during an election year because even blind idiots know who is against drilling for oil.

And yes, they have had help from a few RINO idiots like McCain. And lo and behold they now wish to do something about it. McLame wants to have a “tax holiday”. What a stupid pud idea. How about we permanently repeal the 20% of the taxes that are being used to support the fraudulent and wasteful rapid transit in cities. That is nothing more than a slush fund for city politicians and does nothing for roads and infrastructure. The typical Commiecrat move back during the Klinton admin, but yeah they had the help of a few RINOs in that also.

Looking at this news article I can find NOTHING that will actually help the situation. All they are doing is trying to give an appearance of doing something. How many stupid voters out there actually believe it?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,353001,00.html



The main problem
is that Congress is in the energy business to begin with. You idiots think that you have the power to regulate every breath we take, and that your superior wisdom will make it a more refreshing breath. Well, you are wrong. And not JUST wrong. You somehow manage to f$ck up everything you try to fix, 99% of which you have no Constitutional power to do. Read the Constitution, find out exactly what your powers are. Stick to the Constitution and stay the H#ll out of business. You folks can't find your a$$ with both hands. What in God's name gives you the idea that you are smarter than market forces? I'll give you a hint: you're not.

Remove all federal subsidies
It's quite simple! Just remove all federal subsidies from the production of biofuels and the market will take care of the problem. Hutchison's freezing in place at current levels is a cop-out, straddling the fence without taking a real stand.

Kay...
...lives in a dream world; "This was a well-intentioned measure, but it was also impractical. Nearly all our domestic corn and grain supply is needed to meet this mandate, robbing the world of one of its most important sources of food."

Good intentions had nothing to do with this legislation. It was born of political pandering to farming interests, It will not be killed until an equally powerful lobby emerges to usurp ADM's position at the top of the lobbying food chain.


Government or Free Market?
Dear Senator,

First of all, there is little good for government mandates for fuel efficiency of cars. The cars get lighter, and injuries get heavier. Then, the hope that solar or wind generators are part of the solution is a total dream. They are not reliable – this minute there is wind, next minute there isn’t, next moment the cloud comes over, and there is no solar energy, and both require ridiculously high areas covered with photo elements or windmills to work even at best conditions, e.g. in order to supply NYC with energy, one needs to cover the whole state of Connecticut with windmills.

But the whole approach is wrong. Government has no business regulating energy production. You have no expertise, and no constitutional authority. Just get completely out of it, repeal all regulations, except regulate the level of allowable pollution and let the free market to decide how to provide the energy. And stop subsidizing anything, be it ethanol, corn, sugar or whatever.

Finally, one more word to everybody who demands to eliminate the Department of Energy ‘because it does not produce energy’. Sirs, before demanding anything, just try to research some facts. The department of Energy has one problem: the name does not reflect what it is doing. It should be a department of general scientific research. For instance, Argonne National Lab near Chicago is operated by DOE and does fundamental and applied research in material science, biology, chemistry and more. And so do many other national labs. ANL also did some research on how to safely store spent nuclear fuel, but because of anti-nuke sentiment was shut down during W.J. Clinton administration. It also does applied research in car fuel efficiency. Do you want to close all that down?



Disclosure
I do not work currently for DOW, long ago I worked for ANL. Now work in private sector.

Disclosure (correction of spelling)
I do not work currently for DOE, long ago I worked for ANL. Now work in private sector.

To Jersey48 : Patent Office
Jersey48

Good common sense. Do you remember Clinton trying to do away with the patent office or something to that effect while he was in office?

I try never to call someone stupid, but that is just plain stupid. Why would anyone want to do away with one of the greatest ideas we have had since the inception of our country. It is probably one of the foremost reasons we are leaders in the world. And better the US to lead than a country that deplores free enterprise.

Congress: Baby with a Razor Blade Part 1
Another instance where a bunch of lawyers think they can better manage the economy and our natural resources than the free market.

First off, as already mentioned, corn is poor choice for a biofuel. Sugar cane or sugar beets make much more sense, if that's the route we choose. But since we have plenty of domestic oil, natural gas, and coal, developing biofuels, which consume more energy to produce than they yield, is misguided, wasteful and borders on criminally negligent considering what it has done to our food supply. I hadn't been to the grocery store in a while - my wife usually does the shopping - and I was almost knocked over yesterday by how much ground beef has gone up. And I can afford much better cuts if I want them, but not everyone can, and I don't like getting gouged because our do-gooder government has yet again seen fit to attempt to manage the market. (They've done so remarkably well with the housing market, haven't they?)

Second, all this wringing of hands by the greenies about fossil fuels can be avoided by getting serious about nuclear energy. The greenies' favorite country, France, creates something like 80 percent of their electricity using nuclear power, and they have figured out how to recycle the waste. See:

http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/feb07/4891

Congress: Baby with a Razor Blade Part 2
So, for crying out loud, if the French can figure out how to recycle nuclear waste without incident, then the USA should have no problem coming up with as good as or a better system. Our legislators need to find their man parts and tell the greenies we've tried it their way for the last 30 plus years with poor results, and now it's time for them to shut up and get out of the way. We need to go nuclear in a big way so we end our dependence on fossil fuels, particularly foreign fossil fuels, and abandon this lame idea of turning our food into fuel.

In the meantime, we have plenty of fossil fuels; let's use them. Let's abolish the restrictions on oil refining; let's burn our coal (we have the technology to do that with minimal harm to the environment); and most important, let's quit worrying about Al Gore and his pseudo-science.

Just so you know
Government policy has caused the rapid price increases.

Massive government spending has devalued the dollar - that alone accounts for over 70% of the recent price increases. Couple that with world crop failures and increasing demand the little bit that's going into ethanol doesn't amount to crap. Remember the US farmer competes on a world market - 1% of the world market going into ethanol doesn't amount to much of a market driving force.

If Kay were really worried about feeding the world she would take noticed that since 1980 over 40 million acres of prime farm acreage has been turned into urban sprawl and over 2 acres a minute continue to be turned into lawns driveways. That's over twice as much acreage thats being used to supply the ethanol plants.

As for corn based ethanol - its expansion has already been frozen - by market forces. Every planned plant in the country has been cancelled and several that were up and running have cut back or even closed - their operations relied on corn staying less than $3.00 a bushel, once it went above that profit erosion has made it cheaper to shutter the plants than to keep them running. If gas gets above $6.00 a gallon we might need them again. The horse is already in the barn but the government wants to nail the door shut so it can die in its stall.

vkus:
I agree with most of what you say in your post. Why do you think that the government lacks expertise and cannot manage energy, or fuel efficiency standards, and such, but they can manage pollution? Is that not inconsistent with your stated faith in the free market system?

Ethanol, and Sen. Hutchison's comments.
I agree with Mike Bert. Ethanol is not the answer under any circumstances. Since confronted with gasoline with a mandated 10% ethanol content, my fuel mileage has decreased significantly.( 8 to 10 percent) So, I am buying more fuel to go fewer miles. Also there is evidence that ethanol is not good for my car's engine life. Congress, if they had brain cell one, would open up as many oil developing areas as possible, asap, and tell the tree huggers to get a life. China, Japan, and several other countries are doing quite well with nuclear energy. Our legislators prefer to imitate chicken little.

Joe Casale

The Real Problem
While Congress focus's on artificial supplies - and then takes the easy way out by blaming high fuel prices on suppliers, it ignores the fact that since 2002, the dollar has lost over 40% of its value, due to the policies of the fed and spending in Washington. Bottom line, the $60 we paid for that barrel of crude then, now takes 100 of those dollars to buy today. It has nothing to do with what those we point fingers at are doing to us - it has to do only with what we are going to ourselves. Foreign governments aren't causing us to run chronically high balance of payment and federal budget deficits, and foreign governments aren't forcing the Fed to routinely manipulate interest rates to try to avoid normal market corrections. We keep pretending that it's a supply problem. Let's wake up. We need supply, granted. But it's a devalued dollar problem today - and nothing we do on the supply side will have much impact on that. Deal with it now - or deal with it later Senator. But if the dollar keeps declining in value, the price of our oil, as paid for in those dollars, will simply keep getting higher. Got it?

Why shlud government manage pollution?
InsightingTruth, good question.
If polluting air and water is free, the participants of free market will do so, because it is cheaper than to install all the cleaning equipment. So, it is necessary to put some price on pollution of all these resources, and I think, this is a legitimate role of government. If there is a price on all that, then the free market will adjust to minimize that price too, and thus to achieve a balance between cons and pros of production and pollution.


vkus:
With all due respect to your opinion (incorrect in my opinion) regarding the proper role of government, you did not answer my question. Allow me to rephrase. Why do you believe that the same government that lacks expertise managing other markets, possesses the expertise to manage the markets for clean water and clean air?

NO FOOD FOR OIL
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There isn't enough Biomass in the World
to meet our energy requirements for one day. It doesn't matter if its algae, switch grass, corn, or sugar. These are all fantasy solutions put forth by Green advocacy groups and universities in search of more goverment hand outs.

Currently, outside of nuclear energy there is nothing out there that comes close to fossil fuels as an energy source.

Why should government manage pollution?
Dear InsightingTruth, it is because IMHO it is a much simpler problem. While there is always a potential for a screw-up, it is possible to come up with some laws, such as the limit on concentration of some pollutant is such-and-such and if you don’t do it, you pay penalties for a while and then get shut down until you fix it.
And secondly, while I do not think it is necessary for government to manage energy production, or for that matter, any production because it can be achieved by free market, protection of clean air and water, etc. is not going to be achieved by free market automatically, and this is one area where government intervention is _necessary_.


Why should government manage pollution?
Dear InsightingTruth, but I of course agree, that gov-t can screw up this one too, no question here, you definitely have a point.

vkus
The question isn't whether the job of government is to "manage" pollution or not. The issue is that the U.S. government does not have the authority under the Constitution to pass all of these laws.

vkus
BTW, the topic is ethanol and not pollution.

Good point Vic
That was going to be my second argument.

vkus:
Ethanol is a loser. There is no point in beating a dead horse.

If you will indulge me, I have another question.

Do you believe in private property and other natural rights?

Government Regulating Pollution
Are we talking about the same government that in the seventies decided that we needed to reduce pollutants per gallon, made us install anti-air pollution devices on our cars that lowered the pollutants per gallon by a 1/3, but doubled our fuel consumption?

And the same guys who said we had to reduce the Volatile Organic Compounds in our paint products, which now cost twice as much, take three times the energy to create, and last half as long as the old paint, so now we have to paint twice as often?

And the same guys who said that our air conditioners were eating up the ozone layer, so we had to replace the coolant, at twice the cost, run our air conditioners twice as hard to get the same level of cooling, only to find out that the coolant wasn't eating up the ozone layer after all?

Yes, this is the brain trust we want managing our pollution.

Clean water and air are things we all want. Government should be the last resort for getting there. If someone pollutes your property, you take him to court and make him fix it; you don't go to congress and ask us all to fix it.

Et tu Galltegfa
You are exactly right. The answer is the courts. The problem is that the government was placed in charge of the courts, and have failed to manage them properly.

The task is simple: the courts are supposed to be fair and accessible. They are neither. To whom do we turn now?

BULL CRAP BY THE BUSHEL

.....Excuse me Kay but didn't you vote for the Energy Bill that Bush signed? ...are you saying that you were duped? ...such BULL ...the Bill was a pay-off to the the Farmers, Agribusiness (ADT) and the Eco-whackos that have our "Congress Nostra" by the balls ...you wrote:

....."But the results have been quite different. America remains equally dependent on foreign sources of energy, and "NEW EVIDENCE" suggests that ethanol is causing great harm to the environment." ...

.....NEW EVIDENCE? ...I wrote about the Ethanol Scam years ago ...google "THE GREAT ETHANOL BOONDOGGLE" ...this is old news and is a part of the AGW HOAX ...

.....The Speculators in the Commodities Market have been having a field day running up the cost of Oil thanks to America's suicidal energy policy ...if Bush signed an Executive Order to lift all EPA restrictions on building Oil Refineries and Nuclear Power Plants ...and opened up Anwar and lifted all restrictions on developing our own vast fossil fuel reserves ...then the oil speculators would bail out and the price of oil and gas would drop overnight ...would you support that Ms Hutchinson? .....COLOSSUS

Hutchinson
Another rino,however she is right about ethanol.Look at the amount of money that ADM gave to the senators that voted for ethanol.I live within a few miles of a large adm plant,plus cargill is also a producer.In an earlier post someone said land was worth abot 525 per acre.I can guarantee that you won't find land in Iowa that cheap.One reason that I like high prices for good farmland is that it will stop developers from using good farms for houses.

ethanol loves
Ethanol is corrosive to the metal in engines. It eats the rubber gaskets.
Ethanol shortens the life span of engines. It will show up after about 3 to 4 years. Since most people traded after 2 to 3 years the original buyer will not notice the problem.

Those of us who do not pay the first years depreciation will notice. Those of us who can not afford to pay for a brand new car -- oh we are in financial trouble! We get to buy a new car or pay for a new engine block every three to four years.

ECO-NUTS & GREEN COMMUNISM

.....Aren't you a watermellon Ms Hutchinson? ...Green on the outside but red in the middle? ...don't you believe that the "Environment" is more important than the quality of life? ...

.....Have you ever considered that this insane quest to
limit CO2 emissions might actually harm the Planet?
...plants need CO2 to thrive ...are we trying to
starve out our Flora? ...a warmer Planet means a longer
growing season and thus more crops ...the melted
glaciers release trapped water into the atmosphere to
create more rainfall thus ending droughts ...

.....More rain, a longer growing season and growing
more food in Northern Latitudes sounds like a good
thing to me ...Ethanol only makes sense if our intent
is to starve millions to reduce the Planets population
.....COLOSSUS

Insighting Truth
Good question. Me, I joined the Libertarian Party and vote Libertarian every chance I get. I also belong to Citizens Against Government Waste and Americans for Fair Taxation (the FairTax). I donate money to these organizations, and I pass along their recommended positions to my government officials at all levels (when I agree with those positions, anyway). And I regularly write my worthless congressman and senators to let them know how I would like them to vote on any number of issues. They seldom if ever see things my way, but at least they know that there is one person in my district who sees things differently. I suspect if more people did the same, things would change.

Congress IS The Problem
Unintended consequences occur when Congress passes any new laws. We need more opportunities for the people to vote on proposed legislation since the persons elected do not seem to follow the will of the people. We need to allow national debate including the voices of people with actual knowledge to determine how a law will effect our nation. Politicians have knowledge in limited areas and "pool their ignorance" in far too many areas. Energy, trade, crime, education etc. are examples of how poorly the federal laws and the money spent have served our nation. Citizens made their desires known with regard to securing our borders and amnesty. This worked to thwart congress for the moment, but again the politicians continue to override the "veto by citizens". We will continue to suffer until Congress learns to listen and acts according to what citizens mandate.

Galltegfa:
I thought I detected a Libertarian streak in your post. Why do you think the Libertarian Party has gained so little traction with the American voters over the last 30 years?

Dear Silence Is:
The People are just a bigger pool of ignorance. The answer is in The Constitution. Make the government obey that, and all the legislatively initiated problems shrink to insignificance.

Perhaps Term Limits Will Help
One often hears that our legislators spend more time, energy, and money on getting re-elected than they do on writing good law. That in turn has them beholding to folks like ADM, so they enact programs that are good for their donors and no one else. Limiting legislators to a fixed number of terms (two works for me) might cause them to do the right thing rather than the politically expedient thing. Just a thought.

Senator Hutchison
When will you politicians ever get it?! As soon as government "mandates" anything, it creates market distortions and irrational investment, shortages, surpluses, and other havoc that would not exist on any major level had the government let "free markets" work.

This goes from the Federal Reserve's manipulation of the money supply, to building oil refineries and nuclear plants, to energy policy, to compulsory education.

I am throwing in the towel and will probably vote Libertarian more often than (R) simply on the basis that we need far less government involved in our daily lives....

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Galltegfa:
I am opposed to term limits. It limits my choices. I want my personal choices expanded not limited. Besides only the good citizen legislators will leave quietly. The scoundrels with just shift to another post, be it elected or appointed.

Biofuels are bull****
Ethanol, no matter what its source, requires more energy to produce than it provides. No amount of research will change that. Wind and solar are at the mercy of weather. No amount of research will change that. Petroleum, the only reasonable short-term solution, is a finite resource. No amount of research will change that. Nuclear energy is non-polluting (as long as you stay away from Soviet designs) and its waste products are recyclable ( as long as Jimmy Carter isn't President to shut down the breeder reactors that make recycling possible). Seems to me, nuclear is the answer.

Step forward, not backward!
The present high cost of fuel and the need for biofuels was created by the GREED of Oil Cartels.
If we lower the cost of food and alleviate their problem they WILL NOT lower the cost of fuel to alleviate our problem.

Food producing Nations should also form Cartels and raise the price of exported food in DOUBLE the proportion to the artificial prices Oil Cartels place on fuel.

If they can't sell us their fuel at a reasonable price then they can go hungry while we burn their food in our cars!

Libertarian Traction
Unfortunately, there are several factions within the Libertarian Party, which I believe has prevented it from getting the right message out for general acceptance by the dissatisfied voter.

For the longest time, the hard-core, all-or-nothing crowd was/has been in charge. They tend to focus on what are seen as social issues by some (legalizing victimless crimes) and wholesale elimination of government departments.
Most if not all Libertarians are in favor of these things, but often its not what you say but how you say it. The hard liners are combative and in your face. From my perspective they would rather stand on principle and lose time after time than tone down their message and approach and broaden our ranks.

I believe if we come to the microphone and say we're going to fire 2/3s of the federal government and let all the people in jail free on day one, we're not going to garner as many votes as we would if we said we will work to reduce the size and scope of government at all levels. I have participated in an organization that has been working to temper the Libertarian message into one that is more palatable to the uninitiated. It is a slow, arduous process, and since the convention is weeks away, we won't know how well received those ideas will be by the party as a whole just yet.

However, Bob Barr is seeking the LP's nomination, and that combined with the awareness of libertarian principles that were brought into the conversation by Ron Paul, the Libertarians might prove to be a player this time round.

Term Limits
The problem I have with unlimited terms is we all get stuck with pols like Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Bobby Byrd and John Conyers who get into powerful positions well beyond their abilities, and in turn we all suffer. They are clearly doing what will get them reelected, not what is good for the country.

Moron
Buckaroo writes: Biofuels are bull****
Ethanol, no matter what its source, requires more energy to produce than it provides. No amount of research will change that.

=================================================

Better not tell Brazil. Not only has ethanol made them totally independant from foreign oil, they have also fixed their trade imbalance.

True ethanol has less BTUs than gas, but it is also much higher octane - higher compression ratios woudl easily make up the differance (why do you think dragsters use alcohol instead of gas?).

I keep waiting for someone to actually explain the "subsidy" that ethanol gets. (Hint: its not a subsidy)


Greed of the Oil Cartels
If one customer offers you $60 an hour and another customer offers you $100 an hour, which customer are you more likely to do business with?

China and India are offering the $100; why should the oil cartels take $60 (or less) from us? They're in business, not public relations.

We have oil, natural gas, coal, shale oil, nuclear materials. In fact, now that oil is commanding such high rates, domestic producers are back on line and the US is now the world's #3 oil producer.

The problem is we can't refine it fast enough and our do-gooder government has our refiners producing different mixes for different times of the year, so when we go from winter gas to summer gas, supply drops, demand spikes, and prices go up.

Additionally, producers are making something on the order of 10 cents a gallon net, while the government is collecting something like 37 cents a gallon (the exact figures escape me at the moment, and I'm too lazy to go fishing right now) Even Hillary has conceded that dropping the tax on gas might ease our pain.

The problem is not the oil cartels, it's our government preventing us from becoming self sufficient.

So what are my choices?
Cant eat gasoline. Food first I would think. The odds global warming (now climate change) causing tremendous economic impact in the near future are almost nil unless washington continues the stupidity.. The odds of the greenies driving us back into the stone age are much higher. There are all kinds of reasonable alternatives and clean energy, nuclear in my opinion the most promising. But no we will continue with half backed idea's because of the general lack of scientific training in our population. Seems we will believe anything.

Open up ANWR
Open it up to drilling BUT the oil belongs to US. The oil company gets paid for it's production but the taxpayers own the oil. Can this work without getting the greedy gummint into the oil business and screwing that up, too? And does anyone know if we are still subsidizing farmers to not grow food? That is a topic that would need to be reopened.

So what are my choices?
Cant eat gasoline. Food first I would think. The odds global warming (now climate change) causing tremendous economic impact in the near future are almost nil unless washington continues the stupidity.. The odds of the greenies driving us back into the stone age are much higher. There are all kinds of reasonable alternatives and clean energy, nuclear in my opinion the most promising. But no we will continue with half backed idea's because of the general lack of scientific training in our population. Seems we will believe anything.

Stick with the dolls
Barbie writes: Ethanol is corrosive to the metal in engines. It eats the rubber gaskets.
Ethanol shortens the life span of engines. It will show up after about 3 to 4 years. Since most people traded after 2 to 3 years the original buyer will not notice the problem.

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I've been using ethanol mix in my 1969 F600 since 1981 - when can I expect its engine life to be shortened? It only has 400K on it now - should I sell it before it gets to 600K?

Ethanol will erode rubber - but so will gas - that's why you have to use lines with specs for handling fuel instead of water hose. As for ethanol eating metal - only porous aluminum - again a metal you don't use with regular gasoline handling either.

CVn65:
You can answer your question yourself; if its stupid, inefficient, illogical, and increases the power of a politician or bureaucrat, you can bet the government is still doing it!

All you liberals
Please tell us EXACTLY, step-by-step and cent-by-cent, how you intend to reduce the price paid for gasoline by the American People, by imposing additional taxes on the oil companies, since the new taxes will be added to the price, and WE THE PEOPLE PAY ALL TAXES. You could reduce the price by eliminating all the taxes, and replacing them with ONE proper tax to collect all revenue for each level of government..

Eliminate the 18.4 cents per gallon federal pump tax, and the 32 cents per gallon, PA State pump tax. Eliminate all the other taxes in existence, on all levels of government, which add up to one-third (1/3) of the price – of everything.

You could greatly reduce the price by writing a law which declares that ALL OFFSHORE OIL BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, and hiring the oil companies to drill, pump, refine, and deliver all petroleum products to us for the cost of processing plus 10 cents per gallon profit.

This would eliminate the foreign nations’ price per barrel, the speculators’ add-on charge, the oil-tanker-ship charge, the oil spills when the tanker ships run aground, and the clean-up cost thereof. This would reduce the price for refined petroleum to well under a dollar a gallon, and make us independent of the Arabs and all other oil-selling peoples.

You could also reduce the price by no longer wasting our oil and wasting our food supply by diluting our gasoline with alcohol and making it inefficient. Gasoline provides energy by exploding in the engine, while alcohol burns and does not explode, providing no energy.

All of this would also end the budget deficit, put the balance-of-payments in our favor, and enable our paying off the national debt. What would increasing taxes on the oil companies do for us? Nothing good would come of it, only higher taxes, shortages, and more dependence, which is just what you liberals want most.

Mr Right
If all the glaciers would melt, all that useless ice would slowly become the water that we need to end the worldwide drought.

If you really wanted a solution
Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison to Americas biggest problem, you would be calling for the removal of all government forced policy in the private sector and be against the ABUSE OF POWER not yours legally under the Laws of this Nation.

This government has overstepped its legal authority in every single aspect of our lives, out here in serf country.

There is plenty of oil right here in America.
There is plenty enough land to grow crops.
And we DO NOT need corn for fuel!
And there would not exist a problem if the rotten government would get out of our lives and mind the duties under the law of the land.
Which all of you IGNORE today.
You and all like you are the problem in America Senator.
Now go on an ignore what I just said and we all know is the truth anyway, and work with the rest of you big mouthed busy bodies to keep the borders wide open and go fight terrorists and build walls, fences all over the world but right here.

Hypocrites

Progressive???
Senator, those people on the Left are NOT (I repeat NOT) progressive!! Their policies result in oppressive and regressive trends that prolong poverty and increase suffering. They are totalitarianisms at worst and socialist at best. They are definitely NOT progressive!

Good post talent scout
I can feel the earth vibrate with all the effort the good Senator is expending ignoring you.

Hypocrites is not nearly a strong enough word to describe the maggots that have ascended to power in this country.

It's all in the numbers
The Senator mentions that corn and beans are up 240% in price since Feb 2006.

I could mention that corn in up around 20% since 1989.

Both are true statements.

She cherry-picked the low point right after Katrina closed all the ports.

I picked the high point right after the drought of 1988.

It all depends on how you look at it.

Ethanol Idiocy is merely a symptom
Good, rational discussion on the bio-fuel debacle...until the last line:

"By freezing the biofuel mandate at current levels, we will go a long way to achieving that goal."

Time and time again, conservatives recognize the folly of this or that liberal policy, but then, instead of REVERSING it, we accept merely a "holding position." Nonsense. If you're not gaining ground, you're losing.

We need to ELIMINATE ethanol mandates, just as we need to ROLL BACK government interference in every aspect of our lives, from repealing moronic gun control laws to reigning in the storm troopers of the EPA, OSHA, and all the other neo-fascist bureaucracies we have allowed to proliferate.

John Caile
Eden Prairie, MN

Bakken Oil Formation
Google "Bakken oil formation". The USGS is issuing a report any day now on the potential for this massive field in North Dakota.

Biofuel solution
Let's solve two problems with one stroke: round up all the envirowhackos, run them through a biomass plant and convert them to fuel (they're full of c**p anyway).
No more blocking us drilling for oil in downtown LA (like they used to do as recently as 70 years ago), and more fuel for my SUV.

A Ralph Kramden Scheme (And Then Some)
. . . is what this whole "ethanol" / "biofuel" boondoggle is - or, in other words, a "crazy, harebrained scheme." The government might just as well push a mandate to develop, market and sell glow-in-the-dark wallpaper (ostensibly to save on utility bills) while they're at it, so beholden are they to the enviro-Nazi kooks. (I don't know if mining for uranium in Asbury Park, NJ would count.)

Bless Ishmael!
God is sending a plague to destroy the ethanol crop.

From liberal fingers
I have always like Kay Bailey Hutchison. She's smart, she transcends partisanship to solve problems, and I especially condone this article, (just wishing there were more of this quality on TH.)

I think she is right, we need to get past blame and pointless accusations and just correct this mistake as quickly as possible.

But, I think we also need to remember that the global food shortage is not just the result of biofuel farming, in fact, it accounts for about 15% to 22% of rising food costs. Aside from major droughts, such as the one in Australia, food shortages are occurring because third world countries and cultures are growing in size and prosperity - they are requiring more energy and better food, such as meat. The world is just having a hard time keeping up.

I'm not denying that biofuels have their place in this picture, just saying that eliminating corn for fuel is not going to solve the world foo shortage problem.


BTW
The last time I posted these thoughts on TH, almost word for word, a poster called My Opine responded by telling me I was just a disguised communist and was plotting to take over the country.

If anyone agrees with this, please don't bother responding, it makes my head hurt.

Sheesh...
Consume a billion gallons of oil and you're lucky to get a billion gallons of biofuel which is 27% less fuel-efficient.

I'm convinced these people have ZERO vision and can't foresee the consequences.

The ULTIMATE ARROGANCE is using food for fuel when there are people in need. The "greenies" would be happy to see a few million people starve. To them, those people are worthless and just consume resources! Dispictable!

Excuse me, Gofer
The "greenies" would be happy to see a few million people starve. To them, those people are worthless and just consume resources..."

----------------------------
....But it was Bush who signed this program into law.

McCain says HE is a global warming nut
Can you really vote for another RINO? Can you? Because this freak of nature, John McCain, will make George W. Bush appear to be an honorable conservative. The man is a nutjob. ALL we need is another environmental whacko, no borders, socialized medicine REPUBLICAN in office (Oh right -- yes -- see today's news, he favors socialized medicine now). Stay home in November and let the LEFT get the blame for the coming Storm.

Food for Fuel
The way I see it is this:

1. America is the worlds bread basket, and we need fuel.

2. The rest of the world needs food.

3. Bushel of grain for a barrel of oil, works for me.

If oil prices continue to go up, we need to quit exporting food and convert it to biofuels. The rest of the world will have to make a choice, give America cheap fuel or eat oil.

I really don't see how that could be a bad thing.
They can either eat food or oil, it is their choice.

Americans look very silly
We currently have over 200 ethanol plants in the US, either in full operation or under construction. The combined consumption of corn by these plants is 360 billion pounds per year. That does not include the cob, just 360 billion pounds of eatable corn. That’s alot of corn bread, tacos, burritos, grits, corn dogs, starch, corn oil and syrup. We have an abundance of coal, natural gas and oil for fuel, but we choose to burn one of the main staples of our diet instead. China is laughing its head off. They continue to drill, while we starve ourselves.

The American
people aren't stupid except in voting in the elected kinglets who really are stupid. They make Forrest Gump look like a member of MENSA. It's all about money and power. Somehow I just don't believe the Senator, she should have done her homework before she voted instead of having
buyers remorse now. And the only reason she has this remorse is because Congress is in a heap of trouble in both parties and this is nothing but spin control.
It's our fault, we elect them and they've made it difficult to oust them and replace them because of the cost. They have the warchest, the challenger is handicapped. They won't follow the Constitution, their egos and pocketbooks won't allow it, why they'd have to obey the law for a change and that cannot happen.

Vic - you don't have to list your source
We already know you get all your news from Fox.

You say: Get the government out of the energy business, but you forget the oil industry owns the government.

They are getting exactly what they wanted.

If you had listened to us lefties, maybe we would know something about solar, wind. It's something like 100 sq miles of solar panels in arizona would produce all the electricity this country needs. 10 miles by 10 miles. That doesn't sound too tough. But we are burning natural gas and coal.

I live in California. I know what enron did with the Free market in Energy. They stole all the money. Duh.

That's what any capitalist would go given total monopoly power over a "free market" Ha! What stinking pile of lies.


Galltegfa
How much of that domestic oil is being sold to other countries instead of ours? Can you say open market? I have heard of domestic oil being traded on the open market, bought by a foreign country then sold back to us at a higher price. If this is true, then stop the leak! don't let domestic oil leave here. We have such a surplus that it can be traded away, simple, either lower the price or keep it here.

Hard to Believe that Sen Hutchinson wrot
wrote this:
It is almost word for word another editorial I read presented by the oil co's with the disinformation as to why food is higher.
The percentage of raw in a grocery bag is approx 18%.
Ok......bag cost 100.00 bucks. Farmer gets 18.00 bucks. price of raw has gone up 20% since 88. So 20% of 18.00.....mmmmm.......
well, that is 3.60 bucks.
So since 1988 the price of raw has gone up 3.60....which equats to 3.60 devided by 20....
18 cents per year.........yes.......18 cents per year.
And supposedly bio fuels are the boogy man?????
Texas ARS say that the cost of fuel, labor, overhead, etc has gone up much more and that is the real reason food in the super market is higher.
Easy to figure all this out if you have a brain and actually use it.
And besides, the price of gas would be 15-19 cents higher per gallon WITHOUT ethanol.
And the problem with that is????????

No problem:
Ever thought what ag products are doing for our terrible balance of trade?
That if corn is so high, or wheat, or rice, how at least that is helping bring the balance of trade lower.
And of course, the economic activity producing that ethanol.
Ohhhhhh......but I forgot. IT is better to ship even more of our money out of country. Aren't we a global economy where everything is for sale?
Including our infrastructure?
We are being raped and the oil co's aren't providing any lubrication.

why blame the environmentalist?
Were not all these ethanol subsidies started about five years ago when the Republicans had total control of power in DC? I remember, President Bush giving a State of the Union address where he stated that it would be good for the country to have all these ethanol mandates. Chuckie Grassley, Republican from Iowa, jumped out of his chair and started wildly applauding.

This whole thing is a Republican wealth-redistribution scheme. From the east coast, west coast and gulf coast to America's heartland with America's heartland values. It's a giant sucking that sucks!

The Real Reason for Shortages
I think Becky asked a very interesting question when she asked if it was Clinton who tried to do away with patents a few years ago. She answered part of her question when she said "it's probably one of the foremost reasons we are leaders in the world."

I would encourage the bloggers here to read Ron Arnold's book Undue Influence. Mr. Arnold was with Sierra Club and if you want to see the machine behind the destruction of the industrialization in America this is a real eye-opener.

You know that feeling we have all had that some people don't want us to use any natural resources like trees, fish, land, water, electricity, gas, air, etc. while they can use as much as they want? We haven't been imagining it!!!

Please read this book and share it with someone, anyone.

Energy Independence
Atomic energy now!! Ninety-five percent of our politicians are self-serving addlepated nincompoops who pander to their own needs and those of special interest groups. In so doing, they endanger the quality of life and ultimately the very survival of this country. It is long past time that we bite the bullet and become energy independent by the expansion of nuclear power, the development of offshore drilling, and the utilization of ANBAR. All other considerations are secondary - our national security, our economy, and tangentially the economies and security of the rest of the civilized world depends upon it..

Hal
I like the word addlepated, but the quote I read in the OED is addlepated moonface, or something like that. I can't find it. Good one.

Can you believe that both Pelosi and Bush have decried the high subsidies to multi-million dollar operations, and yet no one can seem to cut the subsidies to the largest most profitable farming operations? Something is really rotten in Denmark.

I just watched King Corn which makes the point repeatedly that it was Republican Earl Butz that extended farm subsidies to every acre grown and single handedly changed the entire program 180 degrees from Price support to Subsidy per acre. The filmmakers even interview the still living Earl Butz.

And Bush says he wants lower subsidies. Bull.


Senator Hutchinson's Mistake
Since Senator Hutchinson attached a rider to a bill last year to try and keep the border fence from being built, I don't trust anything she says. She supports her fellow-Texan G.W. Bush in amnesty and the NAUnion, so why should we think that anything she has to say is for the best interests of the United States and her citizens?

High oil prices aren't so bad
The corn lobby is an obvious culprit, but the sugar lobby sucks, too. With inflated sugar prices, producers have no desire to produce sugar-ethanol, because the fuel market is more competitive and less sheltered than their current arrangement.
Hockey Goon makes a good point:
"...True ethanol has less BTUs than gas, but it is also much higher octane - higher compression ratios woudl easily make up the differance (why do you think dragsters use alcohol instead of gas?)."
Galltegfa writes:
"China and India are offering the $100; why should the oil cartels take $60 (or less) from us? ...We have oil, natural gas, coal, shale oil, nuclear materials. In fact, now that oil is commanding such high rates, ...the US is now the world's #3 oil producer...."
Another problem that might develop: if Americans expect to pay $60/barrel for oil, domestic producers will sell it abroad for $100/barrel. The demand in Asia will keep prices high regardless of domestic supplies. It's not such a bad thing. Though lefties exaggerate the human causes, global warming is happening, and petroleum is ultimately a non-renewable resource anyway. Oil will get more expensive, and the market will bring about alternatives. Cars will get smaller, and trains will handle more freight. The demise of SUVs and F-350s (plummeting resale values) will be one benefit. Aside of the rudeness of taking a "commanding" view at the expense of others (like using a booster-seat at the movies), these strap-on male secondary sexual characteristics (brawniness) just add to the caricaturization of masculinity in Western society. Keeping real men preoccupied with toy trucks and vicarious thrills from spectator sports diverts all that testosterone away from the things that men do best--building a strong civilization, innovating, and kicking some intellectual butt.

Another great economic truth...
...which was left out of this article is that you can always tell a good idea by how much private capital is drawn to it. Sure, many good ideas go unfunded. That's not because they aren't good ideas, but because there is a limited amount of capital to go around, and the most attractive ideas are funded first, as they should be. The govt plundering capital through confiscatory taxation further drains this pool of potential capital, leaving more good ideas to languish. What govt does when it subsidizes ideas that private capital has found unattractive, is to remove the very capital that is needed to fund thousands of good ideas, in order to fund one that dropped off the list. Ethanol is just such an idea. It's time is not yet ripe. It may prove to be unnecessary in the relatively near future as other, presently unimaginable or nascent, technological breakthroughs make alternatives more attractive as investments.

In short, if it was such a good idea it would be sufficiently attractive as a profit maker to attract the necessary capital on its own merits. The amount of capital invested in it from private resources is a reliable indicator of how mature or attractive a business is. Ethanol does not merit special attention because a body of politicians declare it to be a good idea. Politicians have a positively dreadful track record picking winners in the marketplace. Let them put their own, private, money (they seem to have plenty of it) where their mouths are, and leave my money alone!
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