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Friday, May 22, 2009
Scott Wheeler :: Townhall.com Columnist
Californians knock the “Tea” Out of Taxes
by Scott Wheeler
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On May 19, Californians sent a message that the people mean business when it comes to high taxes and big spending. Four ballot initiatives in a special election intended to allow the state government to raise taxes to cover a 21 billion dollar budget shortfall, were soundly defeated sending an unwelcome message to Sacramento that the people picking up the tab for California’s liberal policies have had enough. But it didn’t start, nor did it end, on May 19 in California. Organic tax protests that started as “tea parties” have grown and are now taking shape in different forms even though they have been mocked in the media and attacked by Obama and other Democrats. The overwhelming defeat of the California propositions allowing the state to again raise taxes is just the latest expression of the people’s frustration. The problem for Washington is that it is not just Californians who have great contempt for tax and spend liberal policies that Obama has made his signature style of governing.

California’s’ predicament is that it has been using the Obama model of government for quite a while. The sunshine state was “spreading the wealth around” long before Obama retrieved it from the Marxist ashbin and attempted to make it “cool” again. But what happens when cool costs too much for the people paying for it? You get a California-style rebellion that so stunned the mainstream media that they decided not to cover it except to mock and ridicule—not the lawmakers who caused the problem, the people who are fed up with paying for the California legislature’s out of control spending. It was remarkably similar to the way the media attacked the California rebellion’s older cousins known as the April 15 tea parties. The media just don’t seem to get it and official Washington seems to be oblivious to the rising resentment the governed have toward the political class which arrogantly contemplates how to “reposition” themselves to appear to understand the anger and frustration. They think they are clever speaking one way to their constituents and differently to one another as though they are performers on stage with the issues of the day as their script. Their weakness is that they don’t know how transparent they are to their audience. Their failure to find workable solutions for any problem - that doesn’t involve massive federal bureaucracy - has inspired many people, who have felt disenfranchised for a long time, to take matters into their own hands.

Only a few in Washington recognize they are facing a taxpayer revolt that is taking the form of an idea developed by a radio talk show host and a US congressman. The energy of the tea parties and the advocates for the so-called “Fair Tax” are beginning to join forces and if they are able to get traction, the politicrats are going to lose the mighty power they wield with the federal income tax code. The Fair Tax is a national sales tax that would replace the federal income tax.

One organizer in Missouri started out to have a statewide Fair Tax rally — that grew into a major event forcing them to have to move from a small park to the Boone county fairgrounds in Columbia, Missouri when their expected crowd swelled to over 30,000 supporters from around the nation. The rally organizer, Colin Malaker, says that the creators of the Fair Tax, Georgia Congressman John Linder and radio talk show host Neal Boortz, announced they would address the crowd that will assemble June 13 that started as a Missouri gathering and became a Midwest event that is attracting people from all over the nation. The interesting thing about this event is that among the speakers are several Missouri state legislators -- both Democrat and Republican.

For years, policy makers and elected officials have been taking for granted those who pay the bills but now these peaceful, hardworking people have come to realize that collectively they have power, especially considering it is their money that fuels the behemoth government that oppresses them.

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Scott Wheeler is executive director of the National Republican Trust PAC. Wheeler is a former television producer, international investigative journalist, and veteran of the U.S. Army infantry.
 
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Way to Go Henry and Paul in Ca.
You Californians impressed me this past week when you Said No New TAXes in California.

You all need to continue this movement, and the rest of the country needs to join in.

I have long been saying that California had become a Socialist State that Regulates and Taxes it's citizens into oblivion. Whoever heard of the arrogance of legislators who believe that they have the right to Decide What People Eat, and even Regulate French Fries.

These arrogant SOB's have been regulating and taxing Californians this way for over 50 years, and unfortunately, California-Style Socialism has spread to DC where the Federal Politicians and Bureaucrats have pushed California-Sytle Socialism down the throats of the rest of the country.

With politicians such as Pelosi, Boxer, Waters, Miller, and many others over the years, they have imposed California Socialism on all of us.

If you Californians stick to your ideals and keep your courage, you can stop the California Government. But, do not stop at halting new plans. It is time for citizens at the local, state and national level to Tell Our Government that They are Going to have To Roll Back and Dissolve about 90 percent of their Agencies and Departments that have become Empires and have caused the current mess that California and the Rest of the Country now face.

We have Barack Obama imposing Dictatorial Policies using CZARS that were never meant to be a part of the government. The Legislative, Executive and Judicial Branches are the only 3 Legitimate Branches of Government. Obama has subverted all this and made it all Executive with the creation of CZARS who only answer to the PResident, but have Fiscal and Executive Powers. This is unconstitutional. This is Fascism.

Christopher Parisho
Christopher Parisho
Location: KS
Reply # 2
Date: May 23, 2009 - 7:02 PM EST henry
"Dissolution of the Legislature is in the works."



We'll show them what "throw out the bums" look like California style.

The details haven't been worked out yet for a part-time Legislature, after the current Legislature is dissolved.

In the meantime, totalrecall2009.com will take care of Arnold. We need 1.25 million signatures to put this on the ballet.

Let your relatives know about this.

"Godfather" Moment for CA Voters
Compare:

Michael Corleone:
"Senator? You can have my answer now, if you like. My final offer is this: nothing. Not even the fee for the gaming license, which I would appreciate if you would put up personally."

California voters:
"Elected officials? You can have our answer now, if you like. Our final offer is this: nothing. Not even a pay increase. In fact, you'll see that the commission has voted you an 18% pay decrease."

henry
"Dissolution of the Legislature is in the works."



Good!

If I still lived there I would be helping in every way I can.

I support your efforts from Kansas because I know first hand the issues you face and I still have family there who are hurt by the situation.

I left in '93, 7 months before the Northridge earthquake which destroyed the apartment complex I lived in.

Things were bad for California in '93 and I know in the 16 years since I left they have gotten much worse.

I try to share my knowledge of what not to do (which I learned in California) with the citizens of my hometown and the state of Kansas so that we don't make the same mistakes.

Our Legislators in CA Brain Dead
We have some of those mentally challanged elected officials on record. When Prop 1A through 1E FAILED by a margin of 2 to 1, it was the Speaker, Karen Bass who said "I think the voters were confused on the propositions." This woman is clueless and stupid. First of all it was the DEMOCRATS who wrote the propostions and the rebutalls. (Nice job guys) Next it was the voters who were clear in their thinking. NO NEW TAXES. Karen is only clueless because she felt that since the Demorcats voted for it so would the people. Wrong again stupid. Here is the message and I will put them in caps and type very slowly because I know she doesn't read too fast....DON'T TAX US BECAUSE OF YOUR STUPIDITY. STOP OVERSPENDING AND STOP SPENDING THE MAJORITY OF THE MONEY FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T PAY TAXES (ie ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS) She along with the rest of the democratic party need to be fired.

Christopher Parisho

Christopher Parisho
Location: KS
Reply # 2
Date: May 23, 2009 - 5:35 PM EST henry
Is it all the Governor's fault?

California went through one recall process before, Arnold can't run for a 3rd term, so why not recall the State House and Senate members who keep sending the Governor budgets and bills that drive the spending up?

As I "recall" Arnold tried to pass reforms after being put in office, only to have the State Legislature override him. Being so close to center he eventually gave up the fight and tried to slow the damage when he could, but we can see how well that worked.

If you want to recall Arnold, then do the same to the Legislature too.




Dissolution of the Legislature is in the works.

Let's hope
that as goes California, so goes the rest of the Nation.

The voters who have a half a lick of sense ought to know by now that we are being taxed into oblivion. Let's hope their anger morphs into throwing the tax and spend bums out in 2010 in order to stop the insanity that is called the Obama administration and the leftist controlled Congress!

henry
Is it all the Governor's fault?

California went through one recall process before, Arnold can't run for a 3rd term, so why not recall the State House and Senate members who keep sending the Governor budgets and bills that drive the spending up?

As I "recall" Arnold tried to pass reforms after being put in office, only to have the State Legislature override him. Being so close to center he eventually gave up the fight and tried to slow the damage when he could, but we can see how well that worked.

If you want to recall Arnold, then do the same to the Legislature too.

Mr. Wheeler, a slight correction for you
"an idea developed by a radio talk show host and a US congressman"

The FairTax was developed by the group Americans For Fair Taxation (AFFT).

Mr Boortz and Congressman Linder didn't have any role in developing the idea, they collaborated to write 2 books about it and Congressman Linder submits it as a bill in the House (HR25) every time a new Congress is seated, which he has done a number of years in a row only to have it sit in Committee and never come to a vote.

As for the FairTax;

HR25 is in the Ways and Means Committee right now. If you support it contact the Congressmen of the Committee to have them push it through AS IS, and ask your Congressman to co-sponsor and vote for HR 25 AS IS when it arrives on the floor. The have your Senator do the same. If we push them to pass it AS IS we could have the FairTax in place by Jan of 2010.

Passing HR25 AS IS will repeal the income tax code, the payroll tax code, the estate and gift tax codes. I keep saying AS IS because if they change anything they could mess up how well it will work.

Along with passing HR25 AS IS we also need the states to hold a Constitutional Convention to repeal the 16th amendment so that the Federal Government can't bring back any of the repealed tax codes. Doing this is the ultimate way to tell the Federal Government that the States are taking back their rights under the Constitution and will not stand for any more Federal interference.

Next step
Recall the governor.

totalrecall2009.com

Results of tax and spend

Just more proof a Tax and Spend government will not work.


Liberals support tax and spend government.

Embedded Taxes
Don't forget all of the taxes that are included in the 'sticker' or retail price of any item... all the business taxes, fees, fuel surcharges, licenses required for every city your product touches as it makes its way to your local store, etc. are calculated by each business along the way and ADDED into what they charge.

The growers add 2 cents, the packagers add 2 cents, the transportation company adds 2 cents, and on and on... By the time you get it to the register, you're paying more BECAUSE of taxes embedded along the way.

Sheesh... why don't they teach this in school anymore?

CA deserves what it's getting
There are a number of reasons for CA's collapse, but it's NOT because they haven't collected enough tax revenue. They are a very high tax state, but still have huge deficits.

IMO the key reason is their all-powerful public employee unions. I can't for the life of me understand why public employees are allowed to unionize. Sure, they need basic worker protections, but you don't need an all-powerful union to achieve that.

The Unions are just like the senior citizens. They have enormous political power and won't give a single inch on ANYTHING. Talk about greedy.

tough times
Screw the media, people here are sick and tired of paying high taxes for programs that are failures and should have been thrown in the trash bin long ago,hopefully the state can get on financial footing over time and START LIVING WITHIN THEIR MEANS.

Hello Taft
Your reference to GNP is not technically accurate. Regardless, the basic problem with government is its insatiable appetite for money. You cannot spend more than you take in endlessly. Eventually there will be a reckoning. The government programs that we presently have are unsustainable.

I predict that things will get so bad that even beggars will have to go to work. It doesn't matter if California addresses its problems or not. There will be a reckoning and it will be out of the control of government officials. Atlas will shrug.

Tibby

Taft
If what you say is true, why are businesses and individuals leaving the state?

In the interviews I've seen (anecdotal, I realize) the one common thread people use when leaving is that the taxes are too high. This is, I believe, especially true of businesses.

To be fair, taxes may not be the only reason. I believe the California government's reach into businesses by regulations may also be to blame.

C'mon taft,

You and I both know that the burden of 4 million invaders has broken the back of California.


Taft,
Gasoline taxes, electricity taxes, sales taxes, crv taxes, natural gas taxes, water taxes, car taxes.

If you really believe that people in Nebraska pay a similar amount taxes as the people of California, you need help.

Taft, what are you smoking?

I own a home, and the only reason I haven't been taxed out of it is due to Prop 13, thank God!

We have the highest or second highest taxes in the entire nation (NY MAY be higher, I'd have to check). With the Feb budget "deal" sales taxes in LA County are now over 10%.

We have the highest state income taxes. We have the highest unemployment rate, thanks to business taxes driving companies out of the state. In addition to taxes honestly called "taxes", we now have all kinds of "fees" imposed to get around the constraints involved in passing taxes actually called "taxes".

The drones in Sacramento are now considering taxing Social Security and disability pensions as "income".

Man... you need to get in touch with reality. You must live in Santa Monica or something. Nice little rent-controlled apartment that's driving your landlord into bankruptcy or something.

Revolt
As CCR once said { I see a bad moon arising, I see trouble on its way }
I believe the more that our economy go's down hill and our taxes rise, more people will awaken from the stupor, when this happens look out. I hope that there will be a revolt and we return to living by the constitution, that those who work are rewarded, and those who do not want to work are left in the dust..
Jere is what the people in California need to do or make their representatives do
[1] stop any & all aid to illegals
[2] deport same illegals
[3] lower the pay & outrageous benefits of the state employees to a more realistic level
[4] lower the pay & benifits of the representives.
[5] lower the state income & property tax
[6] lower the taxes on small & mid sized compnays.
[7] spend only 2/3 of what the state brings in and bank the other 1/3..
[8] stop electing people like pelosi & feinstein.
[9] stop bending over and kissing every little group that cry's waaaa, waaaa we are owed this or that, fact is the world don't owe anyone anything.

California's solution is very simple
Stop paying the bills of illegal aliens.

Butch
That's easy to say, until your children are warned by the city to stay indoors because breathing the outside air is dangerous.

How to tell when they are really serious
A lot of the tax and spend policies in California have been the result of appeasing the "wacko enviornmental" groups. We will know they are really serious when they start reversing some of this idiocy imposed on the people by such groups.

Cambermeister
Do you won a home? If so, the taxes for that home would be much higher in other states, like Nebraska. I know this first hand because my father-in-law inherited a house in Blair, Ne, and was shocked how much property taxes were.

Also, " In overall taxes and fees per 1000 of income, we usually rank somewhere in the 20s; downright near median.
When people like the Howard Jarvis Foundation pretend we have high taxes, it’s because they use the average taxes per person, which is of course higher than say a place like Mississippi because California has high personal income than they do."


Mom? Dad?
What did you do in the war (for America's soul)? Some conservatives of late have expressed despair regarding the current state of things bordering on depression-induced paralysis. They're whining and moaning about the magnitude of the task at hand and rolling over.

For those who truly have given up because fighting the Obama/Democrat machine is too exhausting, too emotionally draining, with odds not of their liking, I suggest that they look into the eyes of their children and grandchildren and silently admit that, although a scourge is looming over America which will deny their progeny constitutionally-granted freedom and liberty, the demands of the battle are too oppressive to engage in the fight.

Have we become so self-absorbed and ego-centic that we're willing to concede defeat not only for ourselves but also for the young, very young and yet-to-be born Americans?

Taft of CA

You stated:

"We have only about average taxes."

Ignorance is bliss.

Politicians
It is a sad thing to say,but the liberals will not kick out their politicians.To them it is power.One thing to remember about liberals Ignorance begats ignorance.This is how they survive.

Odd
"On May 19, Californians sent a message that the people mean business when it comes to high taxes and big spending."

We have only about average taxes. The big problem is the housing bubble hit us so hard and the recession.

California still has a higher GNP than any state in the Union. I'm glad Obama said he wouldn't bail us out, its our responsibility.

another bailout
California will hit up the federal government to save the state and Obama will say okey dokey. Then the bailout will be very briefly mentioned in the mainstream media and California will continue it's lunacy at the taxpayers expense.

Incomplete Resume'

It appears as though Benjamin Franklin, despite the many gifts given to his fellow man, he failed to offer what Harvey Milk did.
Despite his travels and accomplishments, it appears as though Benjamin Franklin never once offered-up his derriere to another man.

Yes, while California is flushing down the economic toilet, the San Diego City Council has decided to declare all future May 22nds "Harvey Milk Day"
Not to be outdone by San Francisco, the San Diego City Council believes that having an excrimentory orifice violently traumatized is more important than inventing bifocals.
Two men naked, sleeping together, is more significant than two men crafting the Declaration of Independence.
Wow, thanks San Diego. Now school children will not waste their time with electricity, Constitutions, or peace treaties.
Yep, thanks to you (San Diego City Council)our next generation will not publish an Almanac or create an efficient fireplace in order to get honored with there very Own Day. The leaders of tomorrow will simply drop trousers and grab their ankles to gain fame.
Thanks Again San Diego.

Beefed up IRS
I can see why Obama wants to beef up the IRS. More and more people are wondering how they can strangle this obomination of a government that borrows trillions of dollars from children for infranstructure projects like repaving backup runways for John Murtha's never-used airport.

I think the only way any of this can be successful is for 30 states to band together and repeal whatever amendment authorizes income taxes.

We have to go back to States Rights. Secession would be even better.

Correction,
Ben Franklin doesn't have a Day in San Diego.
There was something missing from his resume'.

Nero Fiddled,
And Arney focused on making gay marriage legal.
But on this momentous day. Yes, today the city council of San Diego, California declared Friday May 22nd to be "Harvey Milk Day".
Thank you San Diego. Not content to wait for the State of California to make AB 2567 "Harvey Milk Day" official, San Diego has placed Harvey Milk where he belongs. Yes, in honor of his great accomplishments Mr. Milk is remembered alongside George Washington, Martin Luther King, Benjamin Franklin and Abraham Lincoln.

Must be repeated:

"it is their money that fuels the behemoth government that oppresses them."

And Eric of Texas, we're with you.

Correction...
Puuuuhleeeeze don't confuse my Sunshine State of Florida with the Golden State of California.

We've been lowering taxes for years, and J'ville kicked the movie business out of town almost 100 years ago.

Teapartypatriots.org
King Elect O thought the ec. would let him turn the US into another drab commie state.

The tax payers are sending him a message that the change they elected him for was not oppression and depression.

It's not only the bill payers
"For years, policy makers and elected officials have been taking for granted those who pay the bills ..."

Policy makers and elected officials have also taken the foreign lenders for granted and we are on the eve of losing our credit card with China. Lenders are as fed up with Washington as the taxpayers are. We are facing a future of elected spenders who have no money to spend.

Arrogance has its limits and our politicians are due for a rude awakening. My greatest financial concern, however, is the empty bank account we face when a natural disaster or an enemy attack comes our way again. How will we dig ourselves out of the hole with no
$$$ to pay for the real (not perceived )damage?

The way to kill cap and trade
http://thinking2much.blogtownhall.com/

1 of 23
I'm one of the 23% who voted Tuesday, with no regrets on the way I voted or the outcome.

On May 20, once the complete
results were in, I sent this message to my CA state legislators:

CUT
Cut spending
Cut employment
Cut your salaries
Cut pensions -- put all state workers on Social Security -- like the tax payers.
Cut union influence

Keep in mind, the voters may CUT you next.

Eric From Texas - A Con I Agree With
I'm so fed up with politicians I'd like to see both sides go down with a whole new crop coming in. I'd even vote for a Republican I'm so fed up. Go `haid, Eric.

TEA--Texas Economic Alternative
Texas has the best state economy. Period. The politicians will have no reasonable argument against the FairTax, a Texas-like tax code, with no property tax and the addition of a prebate.

Notice to all Democrats
If you've sided with Oblaba and Peloser on this bloated bureaucratic mess, anti-drilling and pro shamnesty don't bother attending. You're going down.

Incumbent Dump - 2010
Imagine a national "tea party movement" in which the people endorse complete unknowns from each congressional distict in the primary election... solely for the purpose of dumping out the incumbents.

Thank you Scott
For informing us about the June 13th Fair Tax rally in Missouri. I'm in Georgia, but I'm now making plans to attend the event.

IT'S TIME TO STAND UP AND DO SOMETHING!!!

Gathering angry voter storm clouds
I agree with you on this fact:
national politicians are completely clueless to the massive, massive tax-payer storm clouds that are gathering on their horizon. I was at the SATX Tea Party, and believe me, people were pissed... and not JUST at Democrats.

I have a feeling 2010 is going to be an electoral bloodbath. And the voters are so angry, I don't see them sparing anyone, Democrat or Republican. 2010 is going to be a very bad year to be an incumbent, where the voters throw out the bathwater, the baby and the whole damn tub.

My take: replace them all. With no familiar faces and names, the lobbyists will be S.O.L. With new faces, maybe, just maybe, we can get constitutional amendments for term limits and balanced budgets. Maybe even a flat or fair tax and the abolishment of the IRS (Income Redistribution Service).

DON'T RE-ELECT ANYONE!
Incumbent Dump - 2010
535 random strangers chosen by cold-calling the phone book couldn't do a worse job.

In fact, the current congress (Dem and Rep) is so bad, 535 EMPTY CHAIRS would be better representation. At least empty chairs can do no damage.

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