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Sunday, February 03, 2008
Salena Zito :: Townhall.com Columnist
Obama Republicans?
by Salena Zito
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ST. LOUIS- If one great communicator -- the eloquent Ronald Reagan -- could build a coalition of disaffected Democrats that swung both of his presidential elections his way, can an almost-great communicator -- the fiery Barack Obama -- build a coalition of disaffected Republicans to swing the Democrat primary election his way?

It's possible, says Brian F. Schaffner, an assistant professor of political science at American University in Washington, D.C.

Even though Obama probably takes more liberal positions on many issues than does Hillary Clinton, Schaffner says the perception among Republicans is that he is more moderate.

"This is a matter of style over substance," Schaffner notes. "Obama speaks so often of bringing the parties together and working with Republicans, he seems less polarizing to Republicans than Clinton, who has long been demonized by that party."

The Pew Research Center corroborates Schaffner's inkling. It recently produced a report showing that Obama is perceived as more liberal than Clinton among Democrats, yet is seen as more moderate than Clinton among Republicans.

One Republican who isn't afraid of Obama's liberalism is John Martin, who directs the grassroots Web organization "Republicans for Obama."

A Bronx, N.Y., native who was very active in the Young Republicans in college, Martin, 29, is in law school but serving on active duty in Afghanistan as a U.S. Navy reservist. E-mailing from Afghanistan, Martin said his group has more than 400 members since he last checked and that the Web site's server received so many clicks the day Obama won Iowa that it crashed.

Lisa Kinzer, 30, is another rock-ribbed Republican who's gone Obama. The Norman, Okla., native has been a registered Republican for 12 years. She has nothing against President Bush. But she does have a problem with the GOP's 2008 candidates.

Their bickering over the morality of using torture while interrogating terrorist suspects in an early debate was her turning point, she says, so she went to shop on the Democrats' side and picked Obama -- who she believes stands the best chance of uniting the nation by "reminding us of what we all have in common, our love of this country and our hope for its future."

Towson University science professor Antonio Campbell is a lifelong Republican -- he even ran as one in Maryland's 7th Congressional District 10 years ago. Yet if Obama wins the Democrats' nomination, Campbell says he will become an "Obama Republican."

"Obama's message reads like Reagan's playbook -- individual strength, faith and behaving in a fiscally competent way," Campbell says.

Obama is the only Democrat he would vote for, Campbell adds. His second choice is John McCain.

"The opportunity does seem to be out there for Obama to build an 'Obama Republican' coalition," says Cal Jillson, political science professor at Southern Methodist University in Dallas.

While Obama clearly will not replicate Reagan's policies, Jillson says, he might replicate Reagan's larger theme of America as a land of opportunity. He might even persuade some Republicans "that government can effectively help families meeting their most serious challenges, like steady jobs at good pay, health care and college tuition at affordable prices.

"Reagan represented a fundamental shift in politics -- he created a majority coalition, and the voting population changed," says Jillson, as the primaries head into Super Tuesday.

If Obama can do to Republicans what Reagan did to Democrats, then Obama really will be 2008's "candidate of change."

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Obama Republicans
Obama Republicans are bizarre to me. He's the most liberal Senator voting today. He's pro-abortion, pro-gay rights, pro-union, anti-gun rights, believes in government solutions to our problems, a dove, dangerously naive when it comes to foreign policy, proposes tax hikes, etc. On a whole host of issues he's inconsistent with the Republican party. Are Obama Republicans individuals that vote based on personality instead of actual policies/ shared ideology? Alternatively, are they just the low IQ wing of the Republican party that doesn't do its homework (i.e., they ASSUME he's somewhat moderate/conservative based on his speeches.)

You are right
If McCain is the Republican nominee, there are many Republicans willing to vote for Obama. Even super conservative Anne Colter is willing to vote for Hillary. Iowa chose the 2 best candidates in selecting Obama and Huckabee. Americans want someone who is willing to work with everyone and solve problems. We don't care which party that they represent.

Why Obama Isn't the New Reagan
Ronald Reagan spent nearly two decades developing, refining, and communicating his philosophy of government before he was elected to any public office. By contrast, Obama's philosophy, if he has one, appears to be nothing more than a patchwork of every left-wing idea that has been put forward since the time of FDR with a stitch or two of populism here and there for good measure

There are cross-over voters in every election, but Obama's record as a staunch ally of Democratic Party interest groups will prevent him from gaining much GOP support. For instance, in the Illinois state senate, he opposed mandating life-saving care for infants who survive abortion. In fact, his record suggests that he believes, like NARAL and NOW, that there should be no limits whatsoever on the procedure. No doubt there are a Republicans who agree with him, but the proportion is miniscule.

Finally, Republicans know full well that the government can do things to help people. However, GOPers overwhelmingly oppose the use of the tax code, and the government's power to enforce it, as in instrument with which to implement a model of social justice in which members of the political class get to decide which members of the non-political class are worthy of having their incomes supplemented with funds that have been taken from others. Clearly, Obama is an old-school redistributionist. And even though the current GOP leadership has done little to extend Reagan's legacy of educating Americans about the shortcomings of redistributionist policies, it is nonetheless true that Republicans overwhelmingly oppose such schemes.

As always, the left fails to see that it was the substance, not the style, of Ronald Reagan's politics that was the key to his ability to appeal to a wide range of voters.

Solve problems
They will be "solved" the way Democrats solve them. These Obama Republicans are going to have to be willing to compromise every one of their conservative values, Obama will not compromise his liberal ones. He is a smooth talker now, if he makes it to the general election he will have to carve out distinct positions. Even at this point there is not much difference between him or Hillary, and while he was still in Edwards. McCain is a RINO and I won't vote for him, but I will not vote for the real liberal either.

Darby excellent observations re:Obama
Might I add that a central problem for the GOP even the old Reagan isn't the new Reagan. On a host of issues, raising taxes, affirmative action, abortion, amnesty for illegals, etc...the standard bearer of the party would be excoriated for not meeting the contemprorary standard of a 'true' conservative.

Obama Republicans may be
Republicans, but they are most certainly
NOT conservatives. If they were they would see through this guy in a minute, just like conservatives see through McCain.

Obama is nothing but an empty suit, although handsome, kind (or at least appears so) and has been coached on the right things to say. Unfortunately that is all he has going for him.

His liberalness will take America straight into the toilet of socialism, nanny statism, and financial disaster; to say nothing of what would happen with foreign relations. His inexperience and being a Democrat will not allow him to stand up to the Democrats calling the shots.

Democrat Racists
Saying Obama Republicans is kinda like saying Democratic Socialists...........sounds kinda cute, but is a true oxymoron (emphasis on MORON). For someone who identifies themselves with conservative or libertarian values to endorse someone like Obama who opposes those values at every level only goes to show how little they really understand their world or themselves. Gotta be rough to go through life so confused and stupid.


Yes, they exist
No it's not an oxymoron. Quite a few Republicans who have seen the result of their party in power over the last few years are looking for an eloquent excuse to slip out. Obama is that excuse.

Always
As always, I'm impressed by the level of intelligence in the townhall.com comments! You don't like him and what he stands for, so therefore the idea that there are Republicans that do like him must be wrong! Makes perfect sense!

Or, just for a moment, you could consider the possibility that (a) he's not as liberal as that one report from National Journal would suggest, (b) his honest belief in a loving God is very appealing, and (c) there are moments when even very intelligent people think this country needs a real "uniter" more than it needs someone that agrees with their beliefs.

But, hey, you folks have been correct so often lately that surely the rest of us are the ones screwed up in the head!

Obama Republicans?
Well, about 5% of Americans believe that Elvis is still alive. Many among them probably believe that Obama is a messiah, and so he is a republican.

being a good speaker is a plus
Being a good speaker is a plus in politics, and Obama is that. He may be compared with Reagan, speaking wise too. He may seem like a nice guy, he probably is. He talks of being a uniter.

But there is a big difference between Reagan and Obama. Obama is a liberal. Pure and simple. He may want to unite people, but forget about conservative ideas. It will be liberal all the way. Do you want liberal policies for the next eight years.

That means eight years (yes, eight) of new bad liberal judges. It means anti-life, anti-military, anti-business, anti-american foreign policy, anti-guns just to name a few. If you like high taxes, lots of new rules in your business then vote for obama. Forget about your conservative opinion to boot, we must be united!

If a good speaker and being a uniter is what you want, the price is pretty high. It's too high in my opinion. It was a great thing that Reagan was a great speaker, but he was successful because of his policies not his speeches. Obama cannot be successful because liberal ideas are bankrupt.

Obama Republicans
I think that there should be no doubt that there will be a significant number of Republicans voting for Obama.

I have two life-long Republican colleagues at work who will vote for Obama.

One of my best friends, who worked for the campaign of Virginia's lt governor will be voting for Obama.

Just three examples, but I'm sure my observation is not at all unusual.


Not surprising
The disregard of Bush and Rove for the basic philosophies that Reagan stood for has made this possible. No one took the country down the road to socialism any faster than Bush and the GOP in congress during the first six years of Bush's term. Spending as a % of the gross domestic product is greater today than it was under LBJ, and it rose more quickly than it did under LBJ. No other administration is even close - whether democratic or republican. As a result, on some issues a liberal looks less liberal than the GOP does given its performance. At the same time, the likely nomination of McCain as the Republican nominee further blurs the lines. I've said for 4 years that the adoption of Bush, Rove and the GOP leadership in Congress of the politics of spending, buying votes, and expanding the size and scope of the federal government for the first six years was a recipe for disaster for the GOP. The mantle of fiscal responsibility was always a critical difference between the two parties. And the GOP in Congress still doesn't get it. At the recent GOP house retreat last week, they refused to come out against earmarks, and refused to put Flake on the Appropriations committee. Toss in the fact that 1/3 of the GOP doesn't believe that Bush has been competent in his execution of the war on terror, and the steady loss of manufacturing jobs due to a free trade policy that is not connected to an industrial policy, and the stage has been set. The manufacturing sector -- seen in political circles as a sign of national economic might -- has lost 269,000 jobs over the past 12 months, and 28,000 jobs in January alone. Manufacturing employment now accounts for less than 10 percent of the job market for the first time since data began being collected in the 1930s.

If McCain wins...
Then we will ALSO get 4/8 years of "anti-life, anti-business, anti-american foreign policy, anti-guns" etc. The only one missing would be anti-military. Given that McCain would be a disaster, then if he gets the nomination, I'm inclined to vote for Obama, just so it's the Dems that get the blame for the disastrous results, rather than the Reps.

Further
Those on this site that talk about socialism are using a point of reference of what the GOP stood for in the past - not what it stands for today. The democrats may have been the party of socialism and nanny statism, but it has been equaled by or replaced by the GOP. It is for this reason that protests to the contrary, many voters no longer see the GOP in the same way that some posters see it. Nominating McCain, is not going to help. He's too much of a maverick, too willing to cross the aisle to work with the Democrats, and too associated with Bush and the politics of the last 7 years. The best way to describe McCain is not as a Republican, but as an independent. Some conservatives will undoubtedly try to differentiate between McCain and Obama, for example, but McCains voting record is suspect. In 2006, for example, he recorded a 64% conservative rating. This year, it's up to 83%, but what those reporting such things don't say - is that he's missed 59% of the votes in the Senate this year. In sum, he just didn't vote on many issues that would've pulled those ratings back down.

Ridiculous.
I find this article utterly ridiculous. Do liberals really, I mean truly, believe they are going to win over Republicans with a dash of charisma snd a bunch of babbling about hope and dreams? I doubt Obama believes that - he is much more practical than his religious followers. Sorry, but Republicans are not going to vote for Obama. They didn't vote for Reagan because of his charm, but because he was a strong advocate of their core beliefs and preferred policies. Republicans like me are looking for strong, determined leadership against radical Islam, the tenacity to fight and optimally help crush politically-correct fads of the moment like global warming, a committed advocate of 2nd ammendment rights, a strong check and balance on Congress' desire to solve every tiny social problem with a huge new government program, someone who will actually do something about the fact that our country is teeming with unassimilated illegal aliens, and most of all, a person who will reliably put conservative judgs in place who will not try to reeingeer society from the bench. McCain fails many of these tests, and that is why we're hearing from sour consevatives who now feel like they don't have a real candidate. But don't mistake that for support for Obama. Conservatives never asked for, and couldn't be less interested in, a feel-good guy who has liberal, left-wing positions across the board. That is our nightmare, no matter how mice a guy Obama is. Put simply, "Republicans for Obama" is an assinine fantasy, driven by an astounding lack of understanding about what Republican voters want, and by more than a touch of contempt for what Republicans believe in.

here is the real point of the article
McCain is no less liberal than Obama and a real enemy is better than a quisling. Obama is younger and a lot more in tune with the upcoming generation. John is 76 and considering the toll that the presidency takes on people, it may well be we are electing his vp for the last year of this administration. For me Obama brings one more thing to the table, he will get us out of Iraq which is the worst part of the Bush legacy. We have wasted hundreds of billions of dollars, thousands of american lives for a country whose leaders even now can't get it together enough to have a working constitution or even a reasonable government. GW-the noble experiment failed and if a business venture fails, drop it. You sunk the party we don't need to sink the nation with it.
One more point if Barrack is as liberal as people are making him out to be then he will really unite republicans after 4 years, and we will finally have an actual conservative not a recent convert, or a rino at the top of the ticket.

Remember
Hitler was a great speaker too. And a socialist just like Obama.

snookered by obama
Republicans have always been able to connect their hearts AND minds in making their choice ..far better than any liberal can. Based on his previous voting record (just do a simple google search to get a clue people) he would take this country further into socialism. The need for some of you to sing kumbaya has brought you to the most liberal senator in congress....no doubt a good speaker and more graceful than Clinton , but a senator that is firmly a man of the left in every category. Do you want a premature pull out in iraq that will seal our defeat? Do you want a Neville Chamberlain style president that thinks reasoning with the Hitler's of our age would bring peace and security ? Do you want another massive assault on limited government through government run health care? (check the documents uncovered by Judicial watch to see what Hillarycare attempted to do). Do you want higher taxation , regulation, litigation?
Seriously folks , I have problems with the big government republicanism of the Bush administration and even bigger problems with the "Maverick". But the transcendent issues we face today cannot be faced by a one term neophyte whose has never run anything and thinks like Jimmy Carter. I am voting for Mitt in the primaries. But if McCain is the nominee, I will vote for him in the interests of the country ...even if I have to hold my nose while doing it. I suggest you take time to think beyond the flowery words and the "uniting America" catch phrases and understand what Obama stands for ...you will not like what you see

Republicans
Its torture people. The majority of Americans, both Republican and Democrat do not want any part of it, yet the republican candidates are in favor of it. Do you have any idea how bad this makes our country look internationally?

This is why we have Republicans for Obama, looks like most of them are lawyers, gives you a sense of how illegal torturing is. If the Republicans want to win any political positions next election they will need to change there stance on this issue.

DDW
I'm with you! Let the misery of the next 4 - 8 years be the legacy of the Liberals, but not the GOP's Liberal buddy, McVain.
I'll be with the Dems in this election (if the GOP allows McAmnesty to be their annointed), but not because I'm for their policies...because I'm against McVain, and all the offerrings we've been snookered over the years into supporting because "he's the next in line"...Nixon, Ford, Bush1, Dole!
To me, especially of late with his cursing of fellow GOP Senators because they would dare to attempt to alter his SCAMNESTY in anyway because "I know more than anyone about immigration!", damning a good portion of the GOP base, LYING (not running campaign ads merely presenting a candidate's record) and being too little of a man to recant, eventhough everyone but his dog has pointed out his LIE, his near "evil" facial smirks and stupid comments against others, his inability to remember facts in debates, his self-acknowledged economy ignorance, and lumping all of this into one guy, I REALLY believe he would "bomb, bomb, bomb IRAN", and this nation, as well as, the world in total would pay a very heavy price, perhaps one which would throw the world economies into a world wide DEPRESSION from which the USA would never recover. We have been greatly weakened as a major power and it has been on McVain's (and his fellow US Senate RINO's) watch, and we need to take swift measures to recover and those measures include recovering our own energy resources (ANWAR drilling opposed by McVain included) and setting our economics right which McVain admits he has no hope of doing.

Rick B.
Hitler was a fascist...just like George W.

My fears...
This is being written with the assumption that Obama will defeat Hillary to gain the nomination (and that is a huge assumption at this point). I have a hard time seeing Obama as president because he will have to come clean about what he really stands for, and no amount of smooth talking can really hide the unpalatable nature of what he really stands for. As for being a uniter--GWB was also a uniter, but we saw how Democrats slapped him at every turn. I have my own problems with President Bush, but the way the Democrats have treated him these past eight years has been disgraceful. We are only "united" when we cave to the Dems and do exactly what they want. I hope the Dems do not think that if they win, all will just be magically forgiven and all will be well....As a band which must not be named says--We're not ready to make nice.

Anyway, if Obama wins my fear is he will appoint ultra-liberal judges which will take us right back to the Warren Court.

He will work to shove ever more socialist programs down our throats, and the middle class will not be able to pay taxes and lead the kind of life for which they work so hard.

His health care program will not only help in raising taxes sky high, but will result in poor and rationed health care.

His foreign policy will result in us taking giant steps backward. He would rather be the beloved victim than the country that will actually stand up for itself and fight back.

I could go on and on, but I am sure you all get the point. An Obama presidency would be a disaster for this country.

no choice
if mccain is the republican nominee, what choice would there be? i mean really?

who is for tax cuts? not john mccain because "tax cuts are for the rich"

who is for amnesty? john mccain but don't call it amnesty.
who is on the al gore AGW bandwagon? your friend john mccain
who undermined his own party with his gang of 14? the traitor john mccain
who is against free speech? your friend john mccain
who thought alito was too conservative? mccain

mccain is a liberal democrat and loves to stick it to the conservatives in the nation with a smile. he is no friend of conservatives.

if it's mccain, be a maverick - GO OBAMA!

Maybe He's Right
I must say I have been very surprised by the number of my conservative Republican friends and neighbors who are going over to Obama. I think maybe he is right about the American people hungering for unity---look at the Republican Party, where a centrist is now front-runner. A lot of people seem to be leaving the ends of the political continuum and moving toward the middle. The (successful) Rove tactic was to divide people into groups and then play the groups against each other, and many people have grown sick of this.

Republicans are fractured into three parts: Love war, love McCain. Love business, love Romney. Love Jesus, love Huckabee. And there will always be extremists at any end of any political position. But the majority seems to be sweeping in behind McCain, who is constantly accused of not being conservative enough and who has often sought compromise positions.

To top that all off, some Republicans are indeed going for Obama. I find this astonishing. At the convention when Obama said, "We are not Red America and Blue America, we are the United States of America" something caught fire in people.

brasky
please stop comparing Bush with Hitler - that makes you appear like an idiot. If Bush was like Hitler you wouldn't be posting this right now - you'd be a small pile of ash (and so would anyone else that dared to defy him). Fascism by definition you would not have the opportunity to vote for his replacement this November.

ignorance or hyperbole - either way your a $%#&*(@.


Republicans for Obama...

I almost voted for Obama...

Because I'm certain his chances of winning are far less than Hillary's.

Plus, Hillary would work against Obama. The Clintons would want to prove that picking Obama over them was a mistake.

These Republicans voting for Obama... may be some smart cookies, trying to ensure a Republican victory.

Obama Republicans
Not much to say other than have they heard? Move On.Org. Is this the party they want to be in the White House???? Now can they say that he is better than our Repuclicans runners???????? Think NOT,

what has mccain run
what has mccain actually done in the private sector? zero NADA.

he married into money ala john kerry and remember the abuse kerry took for using his wife's money to buy him a place in congress. now we are going to nominate our own "john kerry"? mccain's only experience is being able to yell yea or nay when his name is called.

at least obama was a lawyer and was not always in a gov't job. clinton was part of the governorship and the co-presidency. not that i think that administration was that successful. however, it was experience.

i think we give mccain too much credit for his military experience. what battle plans did he draw up that led us to victory? zero

he was a POW. not a hero, a POW.

romney, huckabee and guilianni have run things. romney was a successful businessman in the private sector. he has a record for turning things around.

mccain has NO experience that qualifies him for POTUS.

if it is mccain, be a maverick - GO OBAMA!!

To not ashamed to be right
Re "Obama is an empty suit who has been coached in what to say"---my, my, aren't we racist this morning. The Democrats just went down to the 'hood and picked up any old black guy who was whooping it up on some street corner and "coached him in what to say". And then he memorized the lines: monkey see, monkey do. Apparently you haven't figured out yet that Obama, all by himself, is bright. And shines brightly.

Let's face facts,
unless, he stumbles in a big way, Obama will be our next President. Hillary is toast, McCain is unacceptable to conservatives and BHO has a buttery smooth delivery of platitudes that appeals to voters, especially women (He captured women voters in GOP strongholds during his Senate victory).

I do not think anyone should be upset with Ann Coulter. She is expressing the same profound upset that all of us conservatives feel about McNasty. We would sooner have our opponents be responsible for the failures of liberal leadership. If you need proof, look at what Bush did to our party, then imagine the destruction a McCain could do.

What an awful predicament for our party. I guess it is the price we pay for adhering to a consistent philosophy. I notice that the Dems never seem to have the same philosophical rifts.

Obama Republicans?
Come on Ms. Zito. Anyone can find a few disaffected voters that think with their hearts. Do any real conservatives believe that Obama will suddenly shift to the middle when he's been decidedly left for his entire (short) political career? Voting for someone because they "move" you is something that sheep tend to do. Granted, McCain's voting record reflects little in conservative ideology but at least there's a shred of it. Try finding a shred of conservatism in Obama. Can't be done...and it won't be done if he's elected.

The only upside to Pres. Obama
I predict the American public would vote overwhelming majorities into the House and Senate if Obama becomes president. Once he is in, the scales will fall from the eyes of the gullible, and he will have a House and Senate to rein him in.

I fear Lilly's attitude will prevail among the "enlightened." Anyone who dares criticize Obama must be a racist....we will have to criticize in private because, otherwise, we will be branded racists. I cannot take that for four years.....

Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid
The American populace is a very fickle breed when it comes to wrapping their brains around a political candidate who wants to rule and have power over them for "their own good." They are so adept at being manipulated by another media created smooth talker who says they are going to "change" government and start doing the right things. You would think they would have learned by now that liars never tell the truth, and this man is as phony as Bill and Hillary Clinton, George (father and son) Bush, and just about every other elitist insider who gets the nod from David Rockefeller and his cabal of CFR sycophants.

Barack Hussein Obama is just another useful idiot in the hands of the masterful maipulators who have been pulling the strings of our government puppets from behind the scenes for at least 100 years.




McCain-Feingold
is not just legislation, it is

a bumper sticker

Scary but could be true
President Obama is scary, but I have to acknolwedge that there could be something to this. One fly in the ointment is I think this is much harder than Reagan Dems since I believe that still twice as many Americans identify themselves as conservatives as liberals. But no doubt some self identified liberals did vote for Reagan, I suppose due to speaking style etc. Reagan was a conservative who had the ability to get some liberal votes, and that is a very important part of his legacy.

How to avoid President Obama. . . Vote for President McCain. McCain is conservative on most issues, and all of my most important issues. Obama is an out and out liberal, across the board.

DEMORCATrepublicans?
I have listened to Barack Hussein Obama in videos on the internet. His speeches are all high blown gossamer rhetoric. Everything is all about what government can do for you when the democrats and republicans are all together like in,"Father Knows Best." This country is not supposed to have a kumbaya form of government but an adverserial

Kathy Ann
You wrote: "Americans want someone who is willing to work with everyone and solve problems."
The biggest criticism I see of Sen McCain is that he works too closely with democrats.
Explain that one.

acceptreality...

Obama has little chance of besting Hillary.

Democrats have an elitist mind-set. Even low-class white Democrats believe they behold magical powers of immortality. (their need for weed comes into play here)

Obama would upset the "superiority-complex" held by the majority of White Democrats.

With all their phony claims of seeing "Gray" versus Black and White, the Democrats are not about to surrender the plantation.

Obama will collapse on Tuesday.

i have to laugh
these repub's have a problem with the repubs list of candidates so they think obama is reasonable. hahahahahaha. go ahead and vote for this left wing extremist and see were he takes america. he is an empty suit and needs people with empty minds so he can gather support

What is America today?
First media consolidated everything behind a few big corporate boards. The TV networks merged with the internet providers and newspaper syndicates, absorbing major movie studios, hundreds of radio stations, magazine and book publishers, record labels and even toy merchandisers to create mega-monster-conglomerates that blur the lines between news, advertising, literature and art to do two things - get your money and get your kids hooked on media.

The next thing media did was get in bed with politicians, killing or burying stories, running fairy tales as news, or spotlighting their candidates while blackballing yours. For the first time, we have commercials during presidential debates - very telling.

Today, I can remember America but can't recognize America. We are supposed to be a nation of people from all walks and different stripes, united behind a brilliant Constitution, a system of governance and laws based on representative democracy, exercising freedom to speak and follow our dreams. We have a problem today if we cannot engage each other in our schools or on our streets, fearful some political kook will harass us.

I believe Conservatives and Liberals alike can intelligently discuss issues like morality and responsibility for the economy we share and what's best for the world we leave our children.

I am not afraid to reach out to my fellow Americans. This is a nation in need of a new leader who will bring us together on issues like energy independence, combating corruption and restoring manufacturing to America. These things are in the interests of all Americans, and especially our children who have to negotiate out from under the deficit we will be leaving them.

Remember Eisenhower's message and remember that we can't just preach morality around the world, we have to model it to once again become the beacon for freedom the rest of the world admired. First and foremost, we have a lot of cleaning to do in DC....

R or D
No matter how much I disagree with some of the (past) positions held by candidates of the one party, I will not abandon our troops to the party that despises them.
This (I) voter will vote (R).

oblahma repubs
since when does the right actively support socialism. Oblaham stays off are radar as we are still watching the oncgoing fight amongst repubs. But voting present shows someone not in tune with issues being decided. If he were so brilliant why couldn't he form a conclusion. But a few inspiring speeches that pack no substance wither under examination. That he is the most liberal senator makes him even less appealing. But just as the missus clinton is running on being a woman(?), oblahma is running as a black but one with no ideas other than more taxes and more govt

WWJD??? writes:
"I believe Conservatives and Liberals alike can intelligently discuss issues like morality and responsibility for the economy we share and what's best for the world we leave our children."

I don't think you are considering what a "Liberal" is. The word "Moderate" may fit better.

A "Liberal" demands goverment mandates for all.

A liberal wants to mandate that my 12 year old daughter should have medical procedures without my consent, have the "right" to sex with grown men at 13, have birth control without my consent, go to the college chosen by the government, be banned from church, etc.

Just another few reasons for the 2nd Amendment :)

dottie
the missus clinton will be the dims nominee. The rich white boys who run the party aren't about to give up power to their cherished minority. The clintons are a known quantity and all know they can be bought off. The party will let the missus clinton run with her ideas but they won't allow them to be passed. She claims the health issue is her driving passion but she did nothing with it during the last 6 years bubba was in office. She obviously can't be too bright or she would have dumped bubba after her first election to the senate. Had she done so she would be waltzing to the presidentcy as she could cite her credibility of bing a strong women who at long last stood up for herself. Now that bubba is viewed as saving her floundering campaign he becomes a larger power dynmaic in the relationship. At any meeting he would automatically be given more deference due to having been president and his ability to suck mup all the oxygen. The missus clinton is far too weak to keep him out of the presidentcy, as is witnessed by the clintons maintaining there will be a return co-presidentcy

wildwest

Obama and Hillary have to be the weakest Democrat candidates in 40 years.

The last debate was ridiculous. Hillary looks terrible with that wrinkled rubber make-up mask, and Obama's people can't figure out how much White make-up is needed for the nomination.

Brings back memories of Al Gore coming to the final debate with the "Embalmed look". Scary!

MFG JOBS + Hispanics
Hispanics have taken a lion's share of mfg jobs. The local Electrolux plant has over 1400 Hispanics out of a force of 3000 and most of these are illegals. They were recently forced to fire a bunch because of local publicity. Obama would give them ALL the mfg jobs as would McCain or Hillary.

Sunthe1
If you think the next President, regardless of who they might be, is going to run from Iraq (especially if the real progress of the "surge" continues), you need to wake up and smell the coffee.
If the next President is NOT McVain, then yes, we won't be in Iraq for the next 100 years (his words), but we'll be there until we can get out without being globally disgraced and undermining other important alliances. Clinton knows this. Obama, if he has had any decent inside info from the intelligence/defense establishment does too; it's all in the nuance for election purposes.

carlos
but her image team, referred to by others as hillaryland must be working full time to keep her talking points on mark and working on the wrinkles. They occaisionally slip with disasterous results. But it is on the issues important to america where the dims are particularly weak. Now the dims want the country to underwrite all the bad mortgages from those who in the past would have never qualified. Letting someone get a house with no down payment and special short term financing is a disaster in the making. It makes one wonder why the rest of us were penalized with requirements of paying both a down payment and closing costs

The only way
Hillary loses, is if she appoints Bill as VP.

International coward
Vote for a guy who stands for international cowardice? I'm sure he is a nice person...anyone cand 'see' that, but he's a limp wrist in the international world which we come to lead after the Soviet Empire collapsed.
If we were not willing to take on the job in the 80s on, why are we looking for a hole to climb in now? It has to be the unwillingness to be pro-active in a dangerous world.
Obama, and his inexperienced rival, need to get a job and quit warming the benches of the Senate. They have nothing to offer except change...of gender and race, not substantive values and leadership. God knows they haven't earned it. And Hillary for all her SLICK lawyer counterpunching, is an empty vessel that needs BJ BILL's coat tails just to get noticed. If this election is about electing a woman regardless, God help us.

Col. DOUG

charlie
So you're saying "never mind what they say".
Wink wink, we know they have to placate their base.
Fine. Doesn't tell me a whole lot about what they would do, but fine.
Still, the thought of our soldiers having to salute a CIC who doesn't respect them in the first place is galling to me.
So I stand where I was.

lets face it
what we have in our elected parasites are not people who are concerned about their oaths of office to preserve and protect. To them the Constitution is but a piece of old, crumbly paper. We know the majority populate the DemonRat party but the GOP has its share also which is the reason mcquisling has been endorsed by so many. It's not the REpublic stupid, it's whats in it for me. We will see how many of our
GOP Senators put the Republic before self in the coming weeks when many of them know McC isn't
mentally all there and what they will do about it. If they do what's right, then maybe they have a chance of saving the GOP also. Its part of the anger against the party, they have dumped the core values Conservatives life by and expect of their candidates.

Obama over McCain
I'd only vote for mccain if its against clinton. Otherwise - my loyality toward the party is about as equal as his... I'm giving obama the chance over mccain.

Obama the Uniter?
I love that line of Obama's about the country being "not red and blue states but United States." Know why? Because the United States as we know it today, i.e. as a single political entity, was born out of one of the bloodiest and most divisive periods in our history: the Civil War. We think of ourselves as one nation today because some citizens were willing to stand up and be counted, and even give their lives, when doing so disrupted the "unity" regarding the slavery question that the framers of the Constitution cobbled into place to create the nation in 1789. If the framers had been willing to fight it out back then, perhaps the deadliest and bitterest of America's wars could have been avoided. But instead, they went for "unity." From their lesson we should learn that when achieving "unity" requires us to abandon positions that are firmly grounded in moral and rational principles, it is a political goal that is not worth pursuing.


Insane!
Are Obama Republicans absolutely crazy? Insane? He was just ranked the #1 Liberal Senator in Washington, DC. This crap about being the post-partisan candidate lacks merit. He will pursue completely liberal policies. Conservative Democrats and Republicans who need to retain their seats in conservative voting districts will have no choice but to oppose proposed liberal legislation at the national level. How else will they be re-elected? If Obama the Empty Suit wins, I believe Republicans will ultimately regain seats in the House and Senate, which is in sync with America's past history of maintaining ideological balance between the executive and legislative branches.


Susan IKE??
This is absurd. Unless a Pub with no historical understanding and awed by Christ-like charisma with no agenda that looks remotely pro-American is deluded, no Pub of any stripe should vote for this hoaxter. This is DNC populism in the McGovern mold. 40 years of socialist pacifism has been ingrained in Obama. Optimistic? For what? To end our free enterprise system? To have a Muslim Summit? To end our military superiority? To end strict constructionist jurists? To open our borders and end our sovereignty? To end tax cuts? Can you say, this is another Huey Long????

Obama Or McCain
I have been and always will be a Republican but I will not vote for John McCain. If Mitt Romney
does not win the Gop I will vote for Obama.
Everytime I see a CLINTON ON MY t.v. I want to throw something threw it. I have had enough of
Bill and Hillary Peroid. To tell the truth this is the first time in my 60yr's that there is no Republican running.

An Empty suit...
That has character can be filled...with reality!
That is my hope and belief...
HRC is already filled with what we already know!
This conservative doesn't agree with the Obama platform...but
I see in Obama a sincereness...
a truthfulness...which forms the basis of MY consevative beliefs.
If not Romney...I will vote for the empty suit...and hope for the real world to sink in to this obviously intelligent man...OMG did I just say that :)

Yes We Can!
I am watching an event on C-SPAN right now, a campaign rally at UCLA here in Los Angeles.

This is no Mike Huckabee or Mitt Romney-sized crowd. This is a STADIUM. It is ALIVE. Caroline Kennedy has just spoken & now Oprah is speaking, having come on the stage to the music of Aretha Franklin.

The audience is astonishingly diverse.... white, black, hispanic, gay, straight, chinese, all america is here.... Wow. I hope this guy gets the nomination.

OK, Hello....
Stevie Wonder has joined Caroline Kennedy & Oprah Winfrey onstage....

wellll....
If the GOP is so stupid to nominate jaun mexico
then after about 2/3 years of the donkeys being in charge...the people are going to say ohh my gawd..we need somone to straighten out this mess!
Too late morons...the gop by passed the master of" mess-cleaning-up-guy": MITT ROMNEY!

elvis

king liberal
your 4:53 pm inane rant...I am embarrassed for you.

conservatives are at fault....hahahaha

we are making it possible for McVain to be the GOP nominee.....hahahaha

gen y + E are tired of "boomers", but 71 year old McVain and 52 year old Huck play well with the udner 30 folks? HUH

moderates are reclaiming the reigns of the GOP from conservatives? well, maybe moderate INDEPENDENTS and moderate DEMOCRATS who are cross-voting are claiming the reigns

I can't go on because the insanity of your posting is hurting my brain!

Well maybe
it just proves that there may be some thruth in the liberal view that Republicans (conservatives ?) are stupid Neanderthals. Well some of us certainly are.

Who created the "Obama Republicans"?
Well, let's go back in history and ask: Who created the "Reagan Democrats"?

The Carter Administration did. Carter's inability to keep the economy on an even keel and stand up for American interests abroad sent millions of moderate Democrats to vote for Reagan. If Carter had been a competent, popular President, Reagan would never have been able to defeat him.

Likewise, the only reason there are any "Obama Republicans" today is that the GOP brand was tarnished by Bush's failures. You read some of their concerns of these "Obama Republicans": They're not buying Bush's arguments that we needed to wage the war in Iraq or that we have to torture terrorism suspects. Bush has had two terms to make his case and he still hasn't made the sale.

Part of winning the War on Terror is winning the propaganda war for the neutral peoples of this planet. Do you really think our moral case in the world is enhanced by the GOP being known as the party that touts torture, and by America being known as the nation that uses torture to defend itself? Can we hope to win the War on Terror if the world hates our guts?

Short of just conquering the whole known world like the Roman Empire, I don't see how.

Who would McCain put on the Court?
If you are concerned about the Supreme Court, please read this article before voting:

realchange.townhall.com

for charlie
charlie writes: "gen y + E are tired of "boomers", but 71 year old McVain and 52 year old Huck play well with the under 30 folks?"

You would understand why, if you've seen the issue analysis polls of the concerns and values that young people have:

They are NOT anti-gay.
They are NOT anti-immigrant nativists.
They care a whole lot about environmentalism.
They STRONGLY believe that global warming is a serious problem requiring concerted action.

They grew up in the age of Internet surfing, which is a fundamentally transnationalist and non-ethnocentric experience. The mindset of the Internet does not respect national boundaries or ethnic differences--it's one big interconnected World Wide Web and that's how young people have come to view the world.

The GOP's wedge appeals to gay-bashing and nativism are starting not to work with the young generation. And the young just aren't buying the GOP's claim that global warming is just some big hoax.

McCain doesn't use those kinds of appeals. Huckabee does support a Federal Marriage Amendment, but he's strong on preserving the environment and global warming too.


for Tampa Dave
Tampa Dave writes: "Conservative Democrats and Republicans who need to retain their seats in conservative voting districts will have no choice but to oppose proposed liberal legislation at the national level. How else will they be re-elected?"

How do you think Reagan succeeded in pushing a conservative program through a liberal Congress???

ANSWER: He won the 1980 election in a landslide. On his coattails, numerous powerful liberals were defeated that year: McGovern, Church, Culver, Magnuson. The remaining Democrats in Congress were terrified by their huge election defeat into allowing Reagan to have his way on many things.

Obama is counting on the same thing: A huge landslide in November that decimates the congressional Republicans, terrifies the ones who remain, and enables him to railroad his ideas through Congress. He may even get a filibuster-proof Senate if the Dems win 60 seats.

What worked for the Reagan landslide will work for the Obama landslide.

That's why above all else, the GOP must make sure that Obama does NOT win a landslide. "Elections come with messages," and a landslide will give him so much political capital he can do as he pleases.

stevel
many of us are not anti-immigrant but remain anti-illegal. There is nothing wrong with legal immigration. There is everything wrong with illeglas stealing across our borders and availing themselves of our social services. Who amongst us cannot trace the presense here to soem wave of immigrants. But illegals is a whole different matter. We as americans have the right to know who is entering our country and for what purpose. Exactly how do illegals deserve special consideration and treatment

Obama's Republican support
I haven't read everything there is to say on this subject, but I have read a letter in my local paper from one such Republican. To me, it just underlines to me the fact that most decide issues on the basis of feeling rather than thought, even Republicans.

Back in 1992, I thought Bill Clinton sounded very good and I finally voted for Ross Perot, to my great regret. I'm older and wiser now, I hope. Many who vote this election do not remember President Carter, let alone John F. Kennedy. Don't underextimate the Obama appeal.

Dusty

Robert E. Lee:
You mocked my observation that quite a few Republicans would cross over to Obama:

"Republicans? No indeedy. The proper term for those political animals is RINO, or perhaps more accurately, closet Marxist."

How hardheaded can a person be? Mr Lee, do you not realize that there has never been a Repub victory without the support of your so-called RINOs? There are simply not enough conservatives and anti-liberals to win an election without them.

Continue the purge of moderate and liberal Republicans and the damage to the Repub Party will be severe and long-lasting.

The Repub Party is already dead in New England. It is dying in the Mid-Atlantic and the Great Lakes states. It is faltering in the Mountain states.

How stupid this purge of yours is. We're on the verge of a permanent Repub minority. Don't you see that?

reason
when people see the candidate they can identify with whom they believe shares their values they will rally to his support. Many feel betrayed by the past 7 years we have had to endure bush. Repubs were sold a bill of goods that he would surround himself with knowledgeable advisors who would generate policies that would benefit the people of this country. What we didn't know was that bush is stubborn and incapable of flexibility and unwilling to change course when mistakes become evident. That he fails to understand the wishes of the american people disappointsa many. Unfortunately for all there seems to be no candidate in either party that is generating real enthuiasm to be the next president

Words are not enough…
Words are not enough…show me…what has Obama accomplished? Empty words of “change” are not sufficient to get it done; or make me believe he can get it done.

Lilly,
Go find someone else to call names. I refuse to play posting games with one TH's most annoying liberal trolls, especially one that wouldn't know a fact if it bit her/him on the rear end.

why reagan won
The democrats had screwed up the economy very badly! interest rate in real estate was between
16/22%!! the economy ..stupid, remember that one ?!

now who is the money,economy candidate?!? romney because paul will never make it in our lifetime!
were not talking about audie murphy!!!(mc juan)
in the debates when cornered..like in calif! he reverted to the same ol line ..i was a prisoner!

elvis



Youth More Conservative Today
Young adults today are more conservative than past cohorts, not more liberal. This is likely due to the fact that we conservative and moderate boomers produced a lot more offspring than our liberal co-generationists did. If our twenty-something kids do vote in significant numbers in November, they are likely to be about evenly split between Republicans and Democrats. The stats in this story explain why.

http://www.somdnews.com/stories/111407/recmor164912_32118.s html


Obama has a ...
good speaking voice. However, he says little with it, except that he will give drivers' licenses to all illegals. And we know what will follow that.

He has hardly uttered a word on any policy. While he may be a pleasant person, as a potential leader he is over-rated and dreadfully inexperienced. I don't want a president who prefers to sit and chat with the enemy over a cup of tea.

Have you heard Obama's
rallying cry, "Join me in watching the doctors kill the little pre-born human beings", something that can unite all Americans. Sorry folks, I will not be unified with abortionists. Obama can go to hell along with his policies on abortion and embryonic stem cell research. Where do people come up with these ideas like B.Hussein is a uniter?

A SCAREY TWOSOME
JUST FINISHED WATCHING MRS. OBAMA AT THE OPRAH RALLY FOR BARACK. SHE IS ALL OVER THE MAP WITH RETORIC AND BLAME. SHE IS ABOUT AS ANGRY AS A PERSON CAN BE. SHE SHOWS IT MORE THAN HER HUSBAND--BUT THIS WHOLE CHARADE IS ALL ABOUT THEM AND WHAT THEY CAN GET OUT OF IT.

THE WORD OUT ON THE GAB FESTS IS "THE DEMOCRATS ARE SO UNITED,EXCITED AND SURE THEY WILL WIN IN NOVMEBER". SUCKERS!!!

THE REPUBLICANS BETTER GET TOUGH AND READY FOR THIS DUO.YOU THOUGHT BILL AND HILL WERE BAD---

START WATCHING THIS COUPLE AND WHAT THEY REALLY HAVE TO SAY!




Grateful Dead for Obama!
Reuters: The Grateful Dead…will reunite on Monday for the first time in four years to rally support for Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama…

WATCH VIDEO

http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/grateful-dead-for- obama

King Liberal
I learned early that there were two parties in the US.

The Stupid Party and the Evil Party.

You have correctly identified the Stupid Party.

That leaves you only one choice for the Evil Party.

Try to guess which one it is.

From the People's Republic of Maryland
My old man told me 40 years ago that in Maryland, to have a say-so about who would be elected in Maryland, one must vote in the Democrat primary. A Democrat would be elected. The only question was which one.

It's truer now than then.

Hence I am a registered Democrat.

IF the Republicans run anyone here (in MD-7 that's a big IF. In the last three elections Cummings has run unopposed.) he/she will be a Democrat. I have voted for three Republicans in Maryland: Ellen Sauerbrey, Bob Ehrlich and Michael Steele, and I'm not so sure about Ehrlich.

Why don't I vote Republican when/if one is running? Because if I'm voting for a Democrat, I would rather see a D behind his/her name.

I have voted for Mikulski many times because there has never been a Republican running against her.

So voting for Obama? No problem. Besides. Maryland's electoral vote WILL go his was anyway. So why not?

To Carlos
RE "Elitist mind-set"---I have been asking and asking but nobody ever responds and I hope you will: could you please define for me the word "elite" as it is used on townhall? I can't figure out whether it means "people richer than I am" or "people better-educated than I am" or just "uppity people". What is an "elitist mind-set"? If it means "thinking what THEY want is best for ME" then I guess you are talking the pro-life, anti-abortion people? Please advise.

Facist??
Facist are socialist, just like our Comrades in the Democrat Pary.

My opinion of "Republicans for Obama" ?
VOTE FOR FRED

Fred Thompson has withdrawn from the race for president. Fred Thompson is still our choice. Fred Thompson, a young attorney working for the justice department, hand picked by Ronald Reagan, helped defend some of our choices to vote for “the Republican,” Richard Nixon. Fred Thompson, as a senior Republican diplomat, left us with a coherent interpretation of our conservative views. Fred Thompson gave us a conservative focus that allowed us to find a new interpretation of ourselves as Republicans. Fred crafted thoughts and opinions into simple effective coherent statements and published those, point by point on his website as a primer to assist in finding our way as a nation. Fred has set an example and laid the groundwork for the next generation Conservative.

Vote your principles, GIVE FRED DELAGATES IN THE CONVENTION, no need to waste the signs, keep them up as a symbol of principal. We now have a responsibility to choose again, as for me, I’m going to vote for Fred if his name is on the ballot.

Sticking to our guns and strength and standing by Fred now costs one vote. The campaign for the White House was about us, not Fred. The campaign for the White House was about who we chose to lead, not the available choices. Give Fred the delegates in the convention to symbolize our conviction to our principles, not for Fred, for us.

The right to choose cost some of our fellow citizens, countrymen and family the ultimate price. Our price for our right to choose based on our principles is one vote.

VOTE FOR FRED…

Dennis McIntire, “The Constituent”
http://www.dennisforlife.com

Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.
John Quincy Adams

Reagan or McGovern?
Like many Republicans, I have felt a certain nostalgia for the Reagan era when I hear Obama speak so positively about America, and that her greatest accomplishments lay ahead of her. This is especially true given the Nixonian qualities of many of the Republican candidates. But there is one huge difference between Reagan and Obama.

Reagan came to Washington with his philosophy of government fully formed and articulated.
Everybody knew what Reagan's ideas were. That was why he was able to govern effectively with a "hands-off" approach; there was no doubt what Reagan's philosophy of government was, and policies had to fit his framework. Great leaders tend to know where they are going, and how to get there. Even Obama's staunchest supporters can't really tell you what his objectives would be as president, let alone how he hopes to accomplish them. Something about health-care and education, helping the poor and feeding kittens.

I have some hope that Barack Obama is more like that other candidate, you know, George McGovern. Like Obama, he was an ultra-liberal. He rode a wave of anti-war support within his own party, but when it came time for the general election the American people voted against surrender.

Jimmy Carter Dark?
While going to church and claiming to be a follower of Christ favors abortion and homosexuality.

Has no clue about how to protect the US from enemy powers, and assumes good will on the part of those who would slit his throat, were he not a useful idiot.

Has no grasp of economics.

Is generally perceived as being a nice guy, even by his political enemies.

So it is possible that Obama is just a new flavor of Carter, Jimmy Carter Dark. (John McCain is Hillary Clinton light)

The question is, who does the least harm
I may very well have to vote for Obama, if McCain is the Republican nominee.

I like the first amendment, and I don't want to give criminals amnesty. Since not enough people seem to want to get back to the constitution and individual liberty and a free market economy, I have a choice between an immature socialist and a confirmed fascist-socialist. I may have to vote for the immature socialist and hope he grows out of it.

Murphy
McCain isn't a "pure" conservative but he's committed to appointing conservative judges. Obama hasn't. Therefore I've got no choice but to vote for McCain in the Fall. I can't see how anyone that cares about abortion is willing to sit out this election.

hitler
yes, hitler was a socialist, national, but a liberal socialist. he was also a homosexual.
he also had a jewish grandfather.
people confuse nazis with a right wing bent when it is truly leftist.
they are also call our republic a democracy.
i am not suprised, look at the public schools today. kids learn multiculturalism and

auf wiedersehen,
Harvey
dial 1 for english

judgedredd1 writes
no,
i think billy could serve out the 4 years remaining on hillies senate term. then hilly rodham could appoint billy to be one of the supremes.

Juan McCain might not beat hilly.

adios
Harvey No More Taxes No Matter What
Lancaster, Taxifornia
dia1 1 for english . . . imagine

Obama Replublicans
It's vacuous to call Obama a 'communicator', like Reagan. Reagan was communicating solid ideas, whereas Obama is an empty suit, speaking mere rhetoric. He has not one idea apart from every other liberal.
Try reading Plato's "Gorgias" to understand the difference between expertise and rhetoric.
Or try actually reading a Reagan speech.

Eric Morel-Ensminger
New Orleans, LA
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