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Wednesday, May 27, 2009
Roger Schlesinger :: Townhall.com Columnist
Unintended Consequences?
by Roger Schlesinger
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How many times can you claim that what has happened is an unintended consequence before it appears that it’s actually an intended consequence? This is a question that I have been pondering and was brought to a head this week as the U.S. Treasury notes and bonds sold off dramatically. The 10- year Treasury note, which was trading early Thursday at a yield of 3.17%, sold off Thursday afternoon as one rating agency announced that the U.S. debt instruments had been lowered from a Triple A rating. Moody's came out on Friday and refuted that, stating the U.S. Treasuries were still Triple A. Nevertheless, the Federal Reserve didn't increase their buying of the Treasuries and the 10 year finished the week at a yield of 3.44%. That is an increase of over 0.25% in a little over 24 hours. What does this mean to us and why should we care?

It means that those in this world who are buying our debt want higher interest rates to act as our banker. We will have the largest deficit in the history of the country and it needs to be financed. If the buyers want higher rates, our costs go up and this can lead to inflation, which affects all of us. From a purely selfish standpoint, this can also directly affect the mortgage rates we have in this country. We now have amazing low rates which are being used to stimulate the purchases of real estate and helping the turn around this core industry needed for economic revival. Rates are artificially low because of the $1.25 trillion being used by the Federal Reserve and the Treasury to buy mortgage backed securities, but eventually the money will be spent and rates will increase.

Could the movement of the bond market last week start a reversal of our plans prematurely and have the mortgage program end before it does its intended work? In other words, could an unintended consequence finish off an intended one? It just might happen.

Perhaps this is just a "shot across the bow" to wake us up and let us know that there is an end to everything. In the meanwhile, let's look at some of the unintended consequences of the recession we faced (or are facing) and the cure which could possibly be worse than the problem. Real estate has seen prices falling for several years and, combined with the low down or no down purchases of years past, have given rise to a large number of homeowners who find their loans exceed the value of their houses in a very large way. (Writers Note: FHA offers purchases with 3.5% down and V.A. has zero down to $417,000 today.) What we do for the people in the aforementioned predicament is a consequence which has created a large debate.

The problem, in simple terms, is people without equity tend to go into foreclosure faster than those with equity. Should we ignore them and let the housing market get much weaker before it turns? Help all of those in this situation; help those who have given up and stopped making payments first and foremost? Or help those who have made the payments more than those who haven't? I will give you a big clue: common sense was not used to formulate the answer. Many believe politics played a significant part.

The answer to the prime question of helping those who are considered underwater (value of the house is less than the value of the mortgage[s]), is yes, if done responsibly. How do you do that? Reduce the payment on the mortgage to the point that the borrower can make the payment and give the borrower a year or two to "right the financial ship". After that time, the unpaid interest going forward would be tacked onto the mortgage balance. What was done?

The government helped those who stopped making payments by giving the banks an incentive to cut the size of the mortgage and lower the payments to a ratio that would insure that payments would and could be made on time. The results are mixed.

Those who made their payments have little or no help. The amount you can be "underwater or upside down" is 5%, meaning that if you have $200,000 in one or more mortgages, your house must be worth $190,000. This should cover about 1% of those who are underwater and have made their payments on time. You also must have a Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac loan, generally a fixed rate loan, not larger than $417,000. Time to reduce the 1% to about 3/4%. If you are not quite underwater, but your mortgage is over 80% of the value of your house, then you can get help if you meet the criteria above. You will not have to pay mortgage insurance if you currently do not pay it, however if your first mortgage equals 95% of the value of your house or more, you must pay a one-point (1% of the loan) fee. If you have a second mortgage or HELOC, you cannot include it into the loan, but instead must subordinate it (put it behind the new mortgage). If your combined loan to value exceeds 90%, you must pay 1.5 points as a fee to subordinate.

So few people can be helped by this plan that it isn't worth discussing, but what is worth discussing is why does this all seem to be backward? Why are we sending a message that if you don't meet your responsibility you will be helped, but if you do you won't be helped? To be absolutely fair, you might be helped a little, maybe.

I will be happy to give you an answer when I stop shaking my head.

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Now you know
Now you know why "I am from the government and I am here to help you" ranks up there with I will still love you in the morning and the check is in the mail. We are all heading down the financial rabbit hole with Alice!

None of that matters
The only events of real consequence are that the president says nice speeches (about every 20 minutes) and that he is not George W. Bush.

Don't you get it?
Appearance is way more important than substance. I read it every day in the LA Times.

Pretty soon will have a supreme justice with a very cute history who will rule from her heart, not her head and, later we will make the head of 'code pink' joint chief of staff.

We call that "change."

What?
How do higher interest rates translate into higher inflation? He wrote: "If the buyers want higher rates, our costs go up and this can lead to inflation..."
Then goes on to say how this unintended consequence will quench the intended consequence of stimulating the RE market.
Well, for cryin' out loud, which is it?
Inflation doesn't result from higher interest rates. Neither would it tend to quench a stimulus in and of itself. And why is he surprised that the market would respond to the higher risk imposed by the monetizing of these debts by asking for a risk premium?

Camilo
Well we must admit that we certainly do have "change." Of course what should have been obvious to voters is that "change" is fairly meaningless unless you know which direction.

Direction and Democrats
The only directions democrats are all looking for is hell. They are just planning on ways to enjoy their lives before they arrive. Sexual deviancy, alcoholism, theft by fraud, computer fraud, homosexuals in ministry, all the things that Jesus taught against and they have even deceived some conservatives and Republicans.

Unintended???
The fact is that the inmates now in charge of the asylum have no idea what consequences are. Judging by consequences is irrelevant and not even considered. Actions are taken according to what "should" work. We'll see how this works out. Personally, i think we are going to get creamed. Fortunately, it will be the grass hoppers on the left who believe that winter won't come this year who take the brunt. I figure about this time next year, trolls defending Obama will be as scarce as Carter fans on November 4th, 1980.

Why is obvious
The biggest criminals and losers miss the most payments, and since the barney plan turned the entire economy into citizens liars loans and wall street triple A tales from the crypt, the best way to shore up your crime spree is to bail out the worst criminals, first.
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We see, they have done just that - it's the second giant crime spree - bigger than all crime sprees in all of history COMBINED.
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Does this mean if I go rob the bank, they LET ME, then when the depositors show up for their cash, the government PAYS ME again, then pays my get away car driver ? YEP

Never
in my life have I seen so many people get rewarded for not doing their homework before making the biggest purchase of their puny lives!!!

The Sopranos ran a CRA scam
in Newark. A nephew went into a standalone shack worth maybe $8000, stole all the metals, put the place back together with duck tape and chewing gum, threw a one-coat Sears job on the outside, and then Tony stole a crooked appraiser from Johnny's gang who'd say the house was now worth $250,000.

A shyster Newark councilman (all fictional) found some drug addict who got disability or a welfare check to fill out loan applications, and when the money rolled in, everyone got $5000 and Tony put the rest in the bird feeder. You got stuck with the foreclosure.

King Elect O has not addressed that nonsense at all as the CRAs, Freddie, and Fannie are still clogging the mort. market, the fed. Treas. has sucked all money out of the capital stream, and China doesn't want any more of our worthless money.

Chrysler and GM will be fond memories of our once great auto industry soon, with all that bailout money down the drain, and the UAW wrecked. In the meantime, while trying to save industrial labor, the assault on secured bond holders has driven teachers' unions, fire and cop unions, and the pensions to sue the Big O. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

Polls may still like him personally, but his job on the ec. and terrorism #'s are already in the 40s.

Go to tea parties, tell Cong. you support Reps.' saying NO, and VOTE Rep. at every change. In fact, like ACORN vote all you want.

Just Working the System
These consequences ARE intended. The Dems who gave houses to people on unemployment knew that those houses would end up in foreclosure. These legislators are lawyers; they aren't stupid. They are willing to endure some heat because they and their buddies are getting filthy rich spending money they don't have.

When they get together privately, they must absolutely laugh their *sses off that any American is stupid enough to think that Dems are just "misinformed". They're not. Like a submarine, they're throwing out chafe to confuse the enemies torpedoes. These far-fetched reasons and platitudes that they offer up as excuses are just part of the game. I'm telling you, they don't really believe this cr*p. They have no more morals than the guy who steals TVs or swindles grandmothers.

Furthermore, half of the people who took those homes for no money down (or even cash back) knew that they would end up walking away. They too have excuses, some of which start with "it's the white republican's fault". They know that isn't true either. It is part of the game they and the dems have always played to work the system. You don't look a gift horse in the mouth, and when we sit back and watch as they steal us blind, we are basically getting what we deserve.

Higher interest rates
Hi Para,

Higher interest rates doesn't necessarily mean higher inflation. But usually it is a sign that people are losing faith in the dollar. If that happens oil price sky rocket, which drives up inflation.

There is going to be inflation because of the amount of money going into the system. The only thing preventing that now is the banks suck and won't release any of the money given to them. This is bad, but also good because once they release the trillions that they are hording the market will be flooded with dollars. Prices have to go up to compensate for the supply of dollars. Inflation is inevitable and so is a double dip recession. Thanks government intervention.

How about Intended consequences
It is what is going on and its time you faced the facts.

Everyone who seen this coming had their voices dismissed as "conspiracy nuts", and YOU know it.

If you need a list of names of the men who foretold everyone with ears to hear this was coming, just ask.

I am sure you have heard of Ron Paul and Alan Greenspan.

Read their conversations about this subject when you have the time and are not trying to down play the source of all Financial Problems in America.

The thieving Federal Reserve Banking System

Intended Consequences
PLANNED consequences.
The Federal Reserve banking fiat and counterfeit paper "money" has run its course and the bankers intend to bring in a new currency.

There has been an intentional destruction of the economy going on by the thieves in Government and Banking.

Working together to destroy the economy of the United States.

It is the plan, it is the agenda, its INTENTIONAL..

No one should be this stupid to not see it.

Just as the USSR was targeted for financial destruction, SO IS AMERICA

Money Masters
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-515319560256183936


Stop playing ignorant and look the devil in the eye and know what is going on.

America scammed by thieving rich men whose love of money surpasses all understanding and truth, country or religion.

Money is their one and only god.

Stop playing word games and just face the facts.

America's economy has been intentionally destroyed

Talent scout, your posts are good except
for crediting Alan Greenspan as a voice of reason. He is a huge part of the problem and he keeps opening his yap trying to deflect our memories of him being the problem. He talks more now than he ever did while being Fed chief. He should shut up and go retire in silence.

There are others that were warning us, Dr. Thomas Sowell, Dr. Walter Williams to name two.

And yes, this is almost all intentional as the intentions of the left is to destroy the USA, plain and simple.

Rich Not wealthy
Yeah, I did not explain myself about Alan Greenspan.

I just mention him as the person Ron Paul had very good and open conversations about where the country was going.

The Congressional Record of their conversations date back many years.

I know Greenspan was a big part of the problem, but he is honest enough to admit we do not have free markets and the gold standard was better than this fiat funny money we falsely call dollars.

They are not dollars, the are Bank Notes of IOU's.

I will find a link to show some of the conversations between Dr Paul and Greenspan

Congressional Exchanges
The Greenspan-Paul Congressional Exchanges
1997-2005
In Hearings before the U.S. House of Representatives' Committee on Financial Services during the Questions & Answers sessions

excerpt: 2/17/2000

Mr. GREENSPAN. Let me suggest to you that the monetary aggregates as we measure them are getting increasingly complex and difficult to integrate into a set of forecasts.

The problem we have is not that money is unimportant, but how we define it.


Dr. PAUL. So it is hard to manage something you can't define.

Mr. GREENSPAN. It is not possible to manage something you cannot define.

Forgot the link
The Greenspan-Paul Congressional Exchanges
1997-2005

http://www.usagold.com/gildedopinion/greenspan-gold.html

Unintended Consequences
I like that title because it says so much about so many things.

Government programs tend to have many unintended consequences. Governmnet porgrams remind of balloons. If it is squeezed at one point, all other parts of the balloon. Too much squeezing pops the balloon.

Every action has a reaction. That is how things are. Decision makers need to consider the ripple effects before deciding.

In this case, irrsponsibility is rewarded, and responsiblity is punished.

Think about that.



No help at all
You missed the point, we should not provide ANY "help" to anyone. Upside down doesn't mean anything. There is nothing preventing a home owner from making payments that they were otherwise making just because the mythical "value" of the home has declined below a certain point. Do you know what the value of the home is? Exactly what it actually sells for. How can you possibly come up with the value of a house that you're not selling? Regardless of this point, if a person hasn't lost a job and is still capable of paying the contracted mortgage, then it doesn't matter.

Those who find themselves unable to pay, well, the answer is to liquidate as much as possible, pay of what debt they have and get a smaller residence or rent. Renting is treated like some inferior form of living. I'm renting, it's not that big a deal, especially since it was much cheaper to rent than buy and I know enough about finance to not fall into the "building equity" lie.

One group can pay but choses not to, the other group simply is unable and is clearly living well above their means. What does this translate to? No help for anyone. No legislation requiring banks to renegotiate terms. No taxpayer money to give out to anyone. No special deals for new buyers. Let the market liquidate itself without interference, that's the ONLY way to stabilize things.

There is no law, written or otherwise, that states there is a required price level or that home prices need to continually increase. It is like any other asset, supply and demand. The supply of homes has outstripped the demand.

Besides, I don't feel all that bad. If you're living in the house, it shouldn't matter what it sells for, you're effectively trading it for another domicile. The rest are just speculators that have no business being "helped" whatsoever. I lost a lot of money in WorldCom, yet no one bailed me out, this is the same with home speculators.

People Assume
People assume that since Bush and Obama are from different parties, they have a basically different ideology.

That is hardly true.

Both Republicans and Democrats (elected officials, not necessarily voters) have moved us more and more into big government and more detailed control over our lives. The struggle between the parties is simply who is going to be in control and who gets the spoils.

It's naive to think the consequences are unintended.
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