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Saturday, May 31, 2008
Robert Novak :: Townhall.com Columnist
McClellen's Revenge
by Robert Novak
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WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Republican insiders see the bitter criticism in Scott McClellan's memoir, "What Happened," as a payback for his abrupt firing as White House press secretary in the spring of 2006.

McClellan's book makes it clear he did not like it when newly appointed White House Chief of Staff Josh Bolten informed him he was done as press secretary. His resignation was announced six days later.

While McClellan's attack on President George W. Bush shocked Washington, it was no surprise to many people in Austin, Texas. They say McClellan's mother, veteran Texas politician Carole Keeton Strayhorn, has been predicting that her son would get back at the people who fired him. Elected state comptroller as a Republican in 1998, she left the party to launch a losing independent race for governor in 2006.

ROMNEY FOR VP

Political donors report Sen. John McCain complains he is under pressure from President Bush and his former political adviser Karl Rove to select former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney as his vice presidential running mate.

Since losing to McCain in the Republican primaries, Romney has become a strong supporter and helper of the presumptive nominee. During their contest, McCain indicated his dislike for Romney.

Many economic conservatives view Romney as the best bet for a unified GOP ticket. Social conservatives are less enthusiastic about him, and many evangelicals still oppose Romney because of his Mormon religion.

MANAGING ST. PAUL

New York City Deputy Mayor Kevin Sheekey, Mayor Michael Bloomberg's principal political adviser, is being seriously considered by the McCain campaign to be named manager of the Republican convention in St. Paul, Minn.

Sheekey, a former aide to the late Democratic Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan of New York, had been the top strategist behind Bloomberg's consideration of an independent campaign for president this year. The premise for such an attempt was removed when Sen. John McCain won the Republican nomination.

McCain had selected a more conventional Republican political operative for the manager's post, Washington lobbyist Doug Goodyear. But he was forced to bow out when it was revealed that his firm represented Burma's military dictatorship six years ago.

DEMOCRATIC FRATRICIDE

Sen. Hillary Clinton's campaign made no friends in national Democratic circles last weekend when its forces in Massachusetts purged Margaret Xifaras from the Democratic National Committee (DNC) after 28 years of membership because she supported Sen. Barack Obama for president.

A lawyer from Marion on the south coast of Massachusetts, Xifaras endorsed Obama on Feb. 21 as a super-delegate by virtue of her membership on the DNC. The other shoe did not drop for three months, when the Democratic State Committee met in Dorchester and replaced Xifaras with a Clinton stalwart (Susan Thomson, the state party's former executive director). What her friends described as "hard-core Hillary feminists" were aligned against any women not backing Clinton.

Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick and Sens. Edward M. Kennedy and John Kerry supported Obama in the state's Feb. 5 primary, but Clinton carried the state by a wide margin.

PURGING MR. PORK

National conservative activists are getting behind an effort to purge 74-year-old Rep. Don Young, a leading purveyor of pork, in Alaska's Aug. 26 Republican primary. Young's opponent, 45-year-old Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell, met with conservative activists last week in Washington.

Young, who came to Congress in 1973, would become the senior Republican in the House if he is re-elected this year. He is a subject of a Justice Department investigation in connection with the notorious Coconut Road earmark that was added after the bill actually passed. Young has voiced support for gas tax increases in the past and recently voted for the "patriot tax" to finance the new GI Bill.

National Democratic strategists have targeted Young as a vulnerable incumbent, with State Rep. Ethan Berkowitz the leader for the Democratic nomination. But Young is shaky in the Republican primary, with a recent poll giving him 45 percent to Parnell's 42 percent.

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Scott's book makes the case that
Bush and Company were (are) in constant campaign mode. The spin just doesn't have a "stop" point; the narrative is shaped & manipulated to SELL. PR and spin machines are the norm.

Are the days when a president can look directly into the camera & level & straight-talk to the american people gone?

Too bad we had a president more concerned with packaging and marketing and selling a "pre-emptve ivasion" than taking the time to see how this action could weaken America. This administration attacks opposiion. Strangely, I find myself with Pat Buchanan on this. All these wars of choice are unwittingly killing the Republic. GWB has been an enemy of the U.S.A.


Will
Will your posts are boring. They put me to sleep.

Scott's book is a case of sour grapes, and in the end he will be the one that is the most hurt by his foolishness.

No one will trust him-not the Republicans or the Democrats. But the Demorats will use him and cast him aside.

Hannah
Your posts make good sense to me. McClellan will be an unknown in a few weeks. With their usual good sense of timing, i'm surprised he wasn't persuaded by the D's to put his book out about Sep 15th when it would have the most impact. He's probably thinking coming out now will give it more time to sell.

Clueless Sockpuppet
Is all McClelland is and a useful idiot for the left.If he was a true repubican he would have gotten over his feelings of betryal for the good of the party. Bush brought a buch of people from Texas who were RINOS and they've come back to haunt him. Bush is actually a very good natured person and has never uttered an ill word towards anyone yet the left has been able to paint him as a villan.Notice how there's been no condemnation by the left over Hillary's boozing it up on the campaign trail.That's because most libs are self loathing alcoholics themselves.

I'm still hoping McCain picks Romney as a running mate so I'll have an actual conservative to vote for this fall. Bt McCain is too big an egomaniac to pick someone with a bigger personality than himself.Of course the Huckabee wing of the evangelicals would be a problem.

Does anybody believe
That Mike McCurry or Joel Lockhart or Dee Dee Meyers didn't spin and lie for the Clintons through all their etchically challenged administration? They were smart enough to not write a tell all book because they might wind up in Ft. Marcy Park.

But?
Is it true?

The motivation is irrelevant. I just want to know if it's true.

PS: Hey, Bob! Have you betrayed a CIA operative today?

Out for Profit
McClellan was not even a good press secretary compared to others who have held the post... He is out to sell himself and make a large profit; something that he should not have been allowed to do so until the end of the President's term. Does confidentality agreements hold water for anyone?

Why is the Republican party destroying itself with pork projects run amok; lack of political change in Washington and same status-quo with the Iraq war? The American people are asking for change... and we are giving them the election; an Obama-nation. Sad...

No Spidey...
...you will not be voting for a conservative this fall if McCain picks Romney for vice president.You will be voting for McCain.

"The vice presidency ain't worth a bucket of warm sh-t".The Veep does what the president tells him to do and he doesn't do anything else.Yes,I know the Veep presides over the Senate and can vote there if their is a tie vote.But in practice,the Senators control the Senate and the Veep shows up for ceremonial purposes such as State of the Union speeches.

When is the last time there was a tie vote in the Senate?The only real job of a Veep is sitting around the White House waiting for the president to die.

I am a strong supporter of Mitt Romney,but only as president.I will not vote for McCain under any circumstances (McCain-Feingold!)

all whitehouse spokespersons "spin".
I don't think there is any doubt but that Dee Dee Myers, Mike McCurry and others "spun" the administration's line.

They may have been more effective spinners than McClellan.

That is part of the job.

Sometimes press briefings include truths.

Sometimes they contain falsehoods.

Personally, I don't think Scott McClellan was a very effective whitehouse spokesperson.

And I might disagree a little with Novak here.

I think McClellan is getting payback for realizing he had been duped by Rove or Libby when, during press briefings, he asserted those two had nothing whatsoever to do with the outing of Plame.

He realizes he had been had, and he's angry.

The administration did a similar thing when it had Colin Powell make the case for war before the United Nations, relying upon information the administration knew to be either false or highly suspect("Curveball" source, aluminum tubes as components for manufacture of chemical weapons, etc.).

Huckabee????
Don't Baptists believe that Jesus and Satan were brothers?

Just asking.

McCain Feingold
Nam65-66 could you please tell me what you think is bad about the McCain Feingold act that McCain takes credit for? This is not a taunt or an arguement but a real question. I am interested in why everyone hates this peice of legislation and what specific rights it impacted and frankly wasn't paying attention back when it was passed. Thanks.

mcclellan s book that hasnt been release
everything novak says might be right, including that which comes out of both sides of his mouth . there is one other possiblilty. mcclellan is telling the truth. why inthe world would anyone write a book tearoing down the admin. there are already about 7000 of them. who the hell cares, bush is already deep fried and done. the most that he can do in the time left is screw things up so that the dems will have to work just a little harder to clean things up after hes gone.

Ari and Tony Were Good Entertainers?
Good, bad or ugly. What is expected of the WH mouthpiece? McClellan was not an effective spinner but he certainly was put there by Jorge Bush. Bush surrounded himself with - and appointed nothing but failures. Harriet Meirs for Supreme Court. Katrina Brownie for FEMA chief. Lie-Master Scooter Libby. Romney "as the best bet for a unified GOP ticket." There will be no unified GOP ticket. Bush fixed that long ago.

jerabaub
You can't "out" somebody who isn't "in," and no one has ever said Val was covered by the Act. And the "outer" was never prosecuted. What a false premise to get his panties in a bunch about!

Surely McClellan isn't dumb enough to actually believe Rove or Libby or Cheney was involved in "outing" socialite Val.

Most people don't think Scott actually wrote "his" book. He never struck me as bright enough to form thoughtful sentences.

As to the war in Iraq, maybe Bush was just following through on the vow Clinton made in 1998, "regime change in Iraq." That was BEFORE 9/11--but I guess everyone who was cheering Bill at that time knew he didn't really mean it.

No one had to lie to make the case that Saddam needed to GO. And if Bush is getting grief for the mess in Iraq now, think what it would have been like if he'd deposed Saddam then brought the troops home. The ensuing chaos would have been even better fodder for the libs with BDS.

USMC motto -Got your Back !
This is one more than obvious fact surrounding President Bush life .He has Hanger ons not real friends .Real Friendships stand the test of time battles and wars .
This President surrounded himself with countless men and women HE SADLY TRUSTED that would never protect him in an AMBUSH or a FIRE FIGHT and were at best spine less, COWARDS and weak kneed .It became obvious they played to him for political reasons and Powerful positions and as we saw 5 books so far for personal $$ gain .
Mr Bush should have served in my ReCon USMC If he could have pass all of the countless very tough test .
When we MARINES went into battle in NAM no matter how difficult the battle . We covered each others backs with own backs .We all said I am coming to get you no matter how or where and we did often getting blow away our selves or wounded as I did twice .
When we came home we all helped our dead Marines wives and families .Today I give lots of money to the USMC LEGAL FOUNDATION and aid young Marines in Iraq and when they come State side as well .
When we rarely found a
McClellen's in our ranks he didn't come home if found in a black body bag .
Once a Marine always a Marine .


Polly
Libby was convicted, and altho it was not specifically on the charge of outing Plame, it was about lying, and giving false testimony, to court officials and to the FBI.

And prosecutor Fitzgerald had less than kind things to say about the administration, including Cheney.

I agree the Democrats made alot of statements advocating Saddam be removed from power.

But as feckless and devious as Clinton may have been, he still had sense enough to understand the folly of actually sending American forces into Iraq.

Clinton "talked the talk", but did not "walk the walk".

Regrettably, Bush did "walk the walk".

By the way, did you see in the papers today that tens of thousands of Iraqis are protesting the agreement the Maliki government is making with the Bush administration on Iraqi "security arrangements".

Not only al-Sadr, but al-Hakim and al-Sistani have either denounced all or parts of it.

Some Sunni groups also are opposing it.

And al-Maliki, Bush's man in Iraq, is left holding the bag.

Seems most Iraqis are taking exception to the Bush notion of permanent U.S. "occupation", or "presence" in their land.

They want their nation back. They understand we must be there for a little while longer, but they fear we are making grand designs to remain there permanently.

And they won't stand for that.

Bush's myopic vision on Iraq underwent a rude "reality check".

Bush never contemplated sectarian rifts, nor did he comprehend Iran would become the beneficiary of the invasion.

But then, Bush was not concerned with history of the region, existence of Shia and Sunni sects.

Bush went with his "gut".


It is Novak's mess
I beg your pardon, all, but Novak is the one who started the Plame thing, and let the President hang out to dry. Novak is a snake in the grass, and others have paid for his lies. I cannot excuse his sitting on the truth of the leaks, and letting Libby take the hit. Novak cannot lie his way out of it, and MCClellen is just another tool of the Blame Bush Media. God will sort it all out, so some folks need to watch who is behind them, 24-7-365. The book is toast.

Jesus / Satan Brothers - Nam65-66
I am a Baptist and no we do not believe Jesus and Satan are brothers. How could Jesus, who is God, have a brother? Satan is a created being. Don't be silly!

dont be silly
dont be silly, silly. you shouldnt be so silly.

HANNAH,SPIDEY,MEOILMAN.......
HANNAH- you got it right!
SPIDEY- where is Ft. Marcy Park? MY son tells me
'tho we are not Mc cain fans..that Mitt's best chance to the white house..is through the VP,
etc. that could be debated of course. But it may be possible that Mitt would play a bigger
role than past VP's?! A much bigger role !?
MEOILMAN- yes, JESUS IS GOD, do you feel good?
But the entirety of your statement just shows
you are only 331/3 correct! But that is better than being completely incorrect! Give it a rest
and discuss our nations political challenges!
You folks..have a good day.
elvis

Vote for McCain?
Yes.

Passing on the oportunity to cast a meaningful vote against a Democrat is a sin... Well, it should be.




Romney for VP
Don't you just love these hollier than thou evangelicals who oppose Romney because of his Morman relgion.
If I re-call, Romney has bee married to the same and only woman for many, many years. How many goodie two shoes
evangelicals can match that?

McCain
Although Romney would not be my first pick I wouls accept him.Talk is about Bloomberg for veep.I know for sure that would lose my vote.If McCain wins we can only hope he resigns after one term,before he really ruins the already lousy party.

jo....... bingo!
You got it right !! you know how to judge if a person is socially coservative?! By their own
personal life! Romney has 4-5 sons(never aborted
a single one) and moral and clean towards his wife of 38/39 years! And she has had a serious sickness for sometime and that's when many guys will "mess around" when things get strained at home! Not Mitt! MY wife saw them together at
Salt Lake City at the funeral of the Pres. of
the CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LDS..SHE SAID YOU
SEE AND FEEL THE CLOSENESS of these two people!
elvis

A Rat Is A Rat
Even if EVERY word in this book is true,does McClellan look any better? He is still a back-stabbing rat. If he is right,he is still a day late and a dollar short with his so-called tell-all book.

Revenge is never pretty.Makes you feel good at the time,I suppose,but there are usually repercussions and guilt after the excitement of the day fades.Of course,money always helps stave it off for a while.

Many conservatives who are disappointed in much of this administration's actions,nevertheless,will defend it against the likes of this rat,with his attempt to make a scandal where none exists.

Perhaps we could have a little more patience with the rat,had he not collaborated with the Soros group to put this rag out.We all know what Soros is after...the total destruction of the Republican Party so as to speed the onset of socialism. Let McClellan explain this.I am all ears. (sorry,Obama).

Some Reflections on This
McClellen is simply another of many examples of GOP guys we've observed since 2000.

They're all alike. Pudgy little dough boy cowards, breast fed by their mothers until they were 18, white, milky skinned punks who tattle to the high school principles when bigger boys take their footballs and flatten them. The only thing different about this marshmallow is the way he stammered and stuttered like Porky Pig.

These feckless pukes find their way into governments to wield power because they failed in the private sector and life. What they couldn't do with their fists, they do with behind the scene dealings at our expense.

They stab each other in the backs, sell out their countries, and end up in the stalls of public restrooms or whorehouses.

Arrogant jellyfish! The GOP needs a political barbed wire enema this fall and every one of those washed out old eunuchs need to go someplace and contract Ted Kennedy's cancer and ride with him across the bridge into the afterlife.

Maybe someday the GOP will rebuild itself with true warriors who can traverse the Earth on their feet rather than their knees.

McClellens Revenge is ???
Bob; You began talking aboutscott and his book. Then shifted gears in mid thought to McCain.
See this is why the current administration Sucks, it begins one thing then jumps gearb and heads off in another direction. No Rhymn, No Reason, no nothing.
For Elvis from CA; I know hundreds of good God fearing people that stand firm and are commited to their wife. But I'd never support one to be VP, because they are crooks.
For jax33 from IA, why don't you resign after your comment and never run again. It is people like you and those with this Administration that has ruined the RNC and GOP.

McClellen Revenge
JD's Best Looking Son
Location: OH

Reply # 1
Date: May 31, 2008 - 11:13 AM EST Subject: Some Reflections on This
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
JD, I must say very well put. It is time for a New GOP/RNC with people of honour, pride and principals, to making America and her people a much better, stronger place to live and work.
One where we all can live the American dream without cutting someone elses throat.

J.D's Handsome Sons
J.D.can be proud.His sons are not only handsome...they are brilliant in their thinking !!!

JD's Best Looking Son says:
"McClellen is simply another of many examples of GOP guys we've observed since 2000.

They're all alike. Pudgy little dough boy cowards, breast fed by their mothers until they were 18, white, milky skinned punks who...."

---------------------------------------

You've just (also) successfully described that pudgy little dough boy, Karl Rove.

Mitt Romney for VP!
Don't believe the myth that evangelicals won't vote for Romney. He is the FIRST choice for many of them. Plus, you want to get Conservatives out to vote don't you? Mitt is the man to for the job.

McClellan's MOM.................
Don't forget Carol Keeton McClellan Rylander Strayhorn was a Democrat when she was Mayor of Austin Texas in the 1980's.

"Strayhorn was a Democrat until the mid-1980s; she served as Democratic nominee Walter Mondale's campaign chair in Travis County during the 1984 presidential election. Strayhorn switched parties and became a Republican in 1986, when she was the GOP nominee for the U.S. House seat held by J. J. Pickle."

Sorry but, Party loyalty never has been a virtue of this family.

will
Rove may be a 'pudgy little doughboy',but he is NOT a coward.He has been successful in all his endeavors and that is why the left hates him so much.

Now if he leaves the administration and waits months and months to write a 'tell-all' book and elicits the help of the Soros crowd to put it out,you will be right and I will admit it.Until then,just put a sock in it!!

An ugrateful sheep
McClellen should never had the job of spokesperson if he did'nt agree with the President.It's alright to be a sheep,but an ungrateful one is a disgrace.

One thing we all should be

thankful for is that the Bush Doctrine is working. Iraq is becoming more free and more independent daily. Al Qaeda is on the run and there have been no more attacks on American soil.

Rowly - Who are the rats?
Rowly writes: "Many conservatives who are disappointed in much of this administration's actions,nevertheless,will defend it against the likes of this rat,with his attempt to make a scandal where none exists."

Where none exists - wait a minute. How many times have I heard the loyal pukes report that there was no lying leading us to war? Actually, now we have inside proof that there were lies. You can deny that there's a scandal, but if this isn't a scandal, you have NO credibility. Your party and your whole movement are then rats.

It will defend it against the likes of this rat - Now, that really spells it out. Wouldn't a gang of rats always do the same thing: if one is threatened they are all threatened. Just like the sewers we all guessed.

Don't you guys see the contradiction here? How can loyalty to bad people, be good?



THE BOOK
all those who have read the mcclellan book raise your hand.. ok none. now all those who think its perfectly legitimate to criticize a book without reading it, in other words, all the idiots raise your hands. Not both hand dummy.

mrb: Or what about the "idiots" who

believe every word without reading the book or any proof????

Ummm, bet you never thought of that either, did you? Didn't think so!

Mulitple Motives
Of course McClellan might have also looked around at what was going on in the White House and eventually realized it wasn't exactly something worthy of the American people.

Rowly loves Rove
Says he is very successful. Yes, with Jorge Bush as his lead man, he has ruined the economy, fought a war badly, appointed mostly incompetants, started the North American Union, imported poverty, drug dealers, slave labor for the contributors and set up the democrats for the next 40 years. Yep, he is a success.
So was the Trojan Horse.

R Novak - can please explain
what did McClellen mean when he talked about how "compliant" the media was?

Are you, the hard-hitting, ruthlessly honest reporter also compliant? Would another, more accurate, word for "compliant" be perhaps, COMPLICIT?

The whole mess of the Conservative dominated propaganda machine, lead by Fox/Pravda (someone suggested the substitute, Tass, because Tass was command and control of the the Soviet media, just as Fox is command and control of the US media - thank you, but over the heads of most of the reading public), this whole propaganda machine is thus laid bare: the fact is nothing gets serious reporting unless it comes from a government source.

Insiders have the advantage in the news media, and therefore the entire media is dependent on "access". Robert N knows that doesn't he?

Just watch the whole media come down on Scott.

California's gay marriages begin
in EXACTLY 2 weeks (June 14).

OH, I'm SORRY! Is ths the.... gay marriage column?? Damn, I'm still on McClennan, aren't I?

Happy Weddings, California! We all wish you peace, love & prosperity.

Humongous Hypocrisy

Dear Mr. Novak:

Re criticism of Scott McClellan, I refer you to Rich Lowry's National Review column written in Sept. 2005, after the Katrina disaster, when Lowry wrote:

"A vigorous blame game is still the only way to keep government failures from being conveniently ignored."

And now Town Hall clumnists rip Scott McClellan for following Rich Lowry's advice.

Secondly, Rich Lowry made a far more serious accusation against President Bush than anything McClellan wrote in his book, when on Oct. 8, 2007, four and a half years after the Iraq War began, in Lowry's Town Hall column, he wrote:

"The U.S. government has never brought to bear its resources in a truly national effort to win (the Iraq War)."

Considering the fact Pres. Bush promoted the war as being essential to the security and survival of the United States, and accordingly Mr. Bush had pledged to the American people that in the conduct of the war he would employ the "FULL MIGHT" of the American military, Lowry's allegation is tantamount to an accusation of treason against Pres. Bush.


Sorry
Hannah, I accidentally flagged your response to Will (Reply #2). Doubly sorry as I thought it appropriate.

Anne - And you believed Bush
Well, I never did.

What are we to question: that McClennen didn't write the book he says he did?

That when he summarizes the book, he's not telling the truth about the book he wrote?

That if we read the book we could spot the points at which he lies?

You cons are really grabbing at straws. In fact, even if Bush only lied a little bit about the war or about Valerie Plame, he loses all credibility.

Oh, and tell me it would be the same if it were a democrat. Gosh, Bubba lied about having sex in the Oval office, but that doesn't really discredit him in any other area.

We call that, in fact any reasonable person, would call that stinking hypocrisy.


OH! I'm, sorry! My mistake!!
The date was officially changed to June 17th! (I know everybody is exhilarated & inspired & uplifted by the CA Supreme Court's display of absolute equality here, but, really, 3 days shouldn't make too much of a difference!).

Now we gays can stop singing "We Shall Overcome"! We can stop with the parades! We are just about normalized. This integration is almost complete! Gays are your friends & neighbors & family, Townhallers!

(descends the soapbox...)

2+2: Perfect example of what I've

posted many times before...

99% of the limited liberal lunatic posts are worth the time or energy to read, much less respond to...

I've had more intelligent discussions with my 5yr. old grandson, who btw, has better manners and a far better vocabulary than most of the libs.





2+
'Scuse me, but by your reckoning, didn't Clinton lie about Saddam's WMDs. Didn't he threaten "regime change"? Wasn't it Clinton that started the whole Iraq thing?

Not to mention the 9/11 attacks were planned while Bubba was busy issuing pardons-for-cash, signing executive orders designed to cause havoc for W, and removing "W"s from typewriters.

It's obvious...
That so many people that President Bush surrounded himself with would stab him in the back for their own monetary gain and 15 minutes of fame. This was one of President Bush's weaknesses by trying to get along with the other side who only want to destroy you, our party, and our country. The Left will use him and others and then toss them aside once they achieve their only goal of total domination over your lives, your children's lives, and your children's children lives.

to robt....who knows
When the chips are down....Nov.7!
I guess I have to remind you of the so-called polls! Many MOONS ago....it was RUDY leading the polls nationally, Mitt led in many primaries
AT ONE TIME....yawn! The only thing that comes to my mind about Mitt being on the ticket...he will smash his opponent in the VP debate!In my opinion! And since John is going to be 72.....
hmmmm! If he's not....I will not lose sleep and
neither will he ! In my opinion, when this country gets at the edge -KAPUT.... Mitt will look good! And it's gonna happen, don't want it to happen but I don't control the economy or the world ! As much as I don't care for John..
obama,hillary will cause the SECOND COMING ...
before I will have time to totally repent, so I sure don't want that to happen !
elvis

The Calculator,Ken,etal.
None of you lefties who condemn me for standing firm on my belief that McClellan is a 'rat',must know a 'squealer'is called a rat.Now,you tell me he is not a squealer.Truth,now.No lies.


2+2=5..Bubba did lie about 'that woman'.He also lied about 100 other things.I have the list.Want it? He also told the same'lies'about Saddam.He just did not have nerve enough to do anything about it.Who knows what he would have done if he was president on 9/11?

Ken,I love no politician,but I really don't love lefties.You,one and all,come on these threads with nothing to offer but criticism.If I had supported 'Slick Willie',with all his REAL scandals,I don't think I would talk about
how dumb we are.Speaking of Trojan Horses,why is the Democrat symbol a jacka$$?


jerabaub
Libby was convicted by a Washington, D.C., jury. Could the deck have been stacked against him any more than that?!

Fitzgerald...should have dismissed the case as soon as he found out that Armitage was the leaker, unless he planned to prosecute Armitage. Instead he told Armitage to keep quiet. What was THAT about?! Then kept on until he could catch SOMEONE, ANYONE, saying ANYTHING. I think Scooter was Nifonged.

As hated as Bush is by those suffering from BDS, his main problem has always been that he was too nice, wouldn't say a bad word about anyone, and let Clinton holdovers stay in their positions. Obviously, he ain't political enough. And he won't even defend himself against charges that he's ALL political, i.e., always in campaign mode.

But then, there aren't a handful of Republicans who'll fight for ANYTHING, or strongly protest the left's assaults, so why blame poor Bush.

sam in VA
I salute you !

Location: VA
sam
Reply # 16
Date: May 31, 2008 - 8:38 AM EST

Location: VA

Reply # 16
Date: May 31, 2008 - 8:38 AM EST USMC motto -Got your Back !
This is one more than obvious fact surrounding President Bush life .He has Hanger ons not real friends .Real Friendships stand the test of time battles and wars .
This President surrounded himself with countless men and women HE SADLY TRUSTED that would never protect him in an AMBUSH or a FIRE FIGHT and were at best spine less, COWARDS and weak kneed .It became obvious they played to him for political reasons and Powerful positions and as we saw 5 books so far for personal $$ gain .
Mr Bush should have served in my ReCon USMC If he could have pass all of the countless very tough test .
When we MARINES went into battle in NAM no matter how difficult the battle . We covered each others backs with own backs .We all said I am coming to get you no matter how or where and we did often getting blow away our selves or wounded as I did twice .
When we came home we all helped our dead Marines wives and families .Today I give lots of money to the USMC LEGAL FOUNDATION and aid young Marines in Iraq and when they come State side as well .
When we rarely found a
McClellen's in our ranks he didn't come home if found in a black body bag .
Once a Marine always a Marine .


~~~

SAM, D@mn !! I enjoyed your missive.

Although I was not a Marine, I have been a student of history.

The best and bravest fighting force in modern history.

The oldest American service organization. Please visit my post to Colonel Oliver North's recent column for my tribute to the United States Marine Corps.

No, I am not a Marine. I am a Navy veteran.

Oh, God, were that there were more people like you!!!


Polly, luv ya hon, but truth don work.
"Polly
Location: IN

Reply # 61
Date: May 31, 2008 - 3:33 PM EST Subject: jerabaub
Libby was convicted by a Washington, D.C., jury. Could the deck have been stacked against him any more than that?!

Fitzgerald...should have dismissed the case as soon as he found out that Armitage was the leaker, unless he planned to prosecute Armitage. Instead he told Armitage to keep quiet. What was THAT about?! Then kept on until he could catch SOMEONE, ANYONE, saying ANYTHING. I think Scooter was Nifonged.

As hated as Bush is by those suffering from BDS, his main problem has always been that he was too nice, wouldn't say a bad word about anyone, and let Clinton holdovers stay in their positions. Obviously, he ain't political enough. And he won't even defend himself against charges that he's ALL political, i.e., always in campaign mode.

But then, there aren't a handful of Republicans who'll fight for ANYTHING, or strongly protest the left's assaults, so why blame poor Bush."
~~~
Polly, I love your concept, but sadly, I believe we ar doomed.

I believe there is NO difference between the two Major parties.

I believe we are simply victims of "THE NEW WORLD ODER"

Like you, I wish it were not so, but what can we do?








Nickel & meoilman...
Nickel: The McCain-Feingold law is the first law to be a real threat to our Constitutional right to free speech.It restricts attacks on candidates just prior to elections.McCain got a lot of support from the MSM for the law because it doesn't restrict the PRESS from attacks,just the people.Google the law and read it's history and those who supported it.Bush's biggest mistake while in office was not vetoing this bill.That's why I will never vote for McCain.I'm hoping Romney runs for the top spot in 2012.

Meoilman: I was just being sarcastic(YO! I'm from the East Coast!)When the Republicans were having their primary's,Huckabee was also mentioned as a possibility.At the time he made a statement to the press:"Don't Mormons still believe Jesus and Satan were brothers?" Now that Huck is being considered for the Veep slot I just turned it around.No offense to Baptists intended.Huck is an ordained Baptist minister,but I don't hold that against Baptists. :-)

Ad Uses McClellan To Blast McCain

New DNC Web Ad Uses McClellan To Blast McCain

Does this hurt McCain?

watch


http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/new-dnc-web-ad-use s-mcclellan-to-blast-mccain

Actually
I have not seen an administration that was less in "campaign mode" than this one. When Mr. Clinton was President, he had a constant finger to the wind, listened to the polls, and was in front of the camera several times a week feeling our pain.
As for "propaganda" this administration has also been unable to correct lies told about it.
Not buying poor Scott's sour grapes. I do feel sorry for him for being a tool, when he finds out how great his new best friends are. But he'll deserve that.

Rowly thinks I'm a lib
No, I'm to the right of Jorge Bush. I voted for him twice, had such high hopes for this country. Most of us have buyers remorse now and those of you who have drank the Kool Aid and nominated McCain, another liberal, and expect our support are in for a shock. I didn't say I was against the war in Iraq, just the fools he had tell him how to fight it. Notice most are now gone. Rummie for instance.

so, Anne, you dodge the whole point
Don't you think intelligent, reasoning, sentient beings get tired of cowards who dodge questions in a flurry of name calling and ad hominem attacks.

Does your 5 year old start spewing vitriol and tell you her doll has a better vocabulary than you when you tell her/him to go to bed. Because I can guess that the answer is no (that behavior is generally, and almost definitively ascribed to the mentally retarded) that proves that your 5 year old is probably more reasonable than you.

Answer the * question: what part of McClellen's story as told from his mouth are we not to believe. Or did you just watch Guiliani and get your marching orders from him.

Tell us all, are you proud of the way your brain works?

* please insert the emphasis word of your own choosing.

Polly, just what are you talking about?
Are you, perhaps, trying to deflect the question on to Bill Clinton??? Boy, that would be an original approach.

And that's simply astounding that you would find a way to blame Bill for 9-11. Never heard that before. Except one problem. It would have been much more difficult for Bill to place all the explosives required to bring down those buildings and for which there were about 50 television recorded reports of "Explosions, tremendous explosions, and multiple secondary explosions".

It would have been a lot harder for Bill than for Larry Silversteen and his buddies in the Mossad to wire the elevator shafts and tape down the thermite cutting charges during the 6 weeks of elevator repair that was going on just prior to 9-11. I would also have been harder for Bill to command a complete standdown of the military that day, as witnessed by Dick Cheney's "Of course the orders still stand. They stand until I tell you they don't!" as the pentagon jetliner was bearing down, as testified to by the secretary of Tranportation during the 9-11 commission.

But thank you for your insightful distractions. Really, so original.


Anybody Know...
..if Scott McClellan is any relation to Maj. Gen. George B. McClellan(1826-1885)? It would make sense if he was, both were inept!

"McClellan is to me one of the mysteries of the war." -U.S. Grant

Ken
You did sound like a liberal.You will not see me praise everything GW Bush has done,but if the left start in on him,I will defend what I think is defensible.

The left have done nothing since they were elected in 2006 to help the economy or anything else.They have done NOTHING they said they would do,if elected.Gas and all commodities prices have risen dramatically since they came on.What have they done? Zip.

It frosts me to read the whining of the Bush-haters.He,like the Democrats are all striving for the One World Government.Some just want it to come about faster than others.

BTW..McClellan is still a backstabbing rat!


rowly...I suspect
McClellan is a LIAR..of magnitude levels!
He is sore because his unemployment got declined because he hasn't had a REAL JOB in
years!
elvis

Rosie Odonell meet if two-plus-whatever.
If-two-plus-whatever meet rosie.

TRUTHERS ! Ya gotta love 'em!!!

McClellan
Scott only confirmed what other people who had worked on the inside confirmed, like Paul O'Neil. I suppose McClellan saw this spin coming a mile away and still had the guts to be honest. He could have lied in his book, like Fieth did, and still make bucko bucks, so that theory is dead.

suntheone
By campaign mode, I think he means that politicians kiss babies and make promises they don't intend to keep, but then, when president proceed to do the things they believe in and that are good for the nation. Bush, on the other hand, kept lying. Did you know that Cheyne had someone leak fake information about Saddam's nuclear capacity to the NY Times on a Saturday, so they would be on the Sunday papers, and then he went on a Sunday morning new show to say, look even the NY Times says Saddam has nuclear weapons!

Rowly:
Exactly! You made my point. "Bush, like the democrats are striving for one world govenment. Some just want it faster than others."
I DON'T want it. I believe in American exceptionalism, (Bush does not). McCain doesn't. Most of Bush's people have proven incompetant, including McClellan but then again he would fit the Harriett Miers mold. Bush says John McCain is a real conservative. Like he would recognize such a thing.

Nam65-66
A Rosie by any other name would still smell like a Rosie.All Twofer's posts led up to the 'inside job' angle.Some of the lefties have let hate for GW Bush drive them absolutely bonkers.

John Konop
I just saw you posted a thing about O'Neil. Thanks for that link.

Rowly: Excellent point! (Reply #71)

"You will not see me praise everything GW Bush has done, but if the left start in on him,I will defend what I think is defensible."

By George, I think you've hit on a few very important points. Problem is, neither of which are points that any limited liberal idiot could possibly understand.

First of all, I don't think any Conservative - Republican has ever... EVER, agreed 100% with everything that any Republican president or Congressmen.

WHY they may ask? Well because we Conservatives tend to be "independent thinkers" and capable of "critical analysis."

One example? How about the demo Congressional pedophiles, who are STILL THERE, and a demo pres. who "played around" with an intern in OUR White House? Apparently no big deal to the libs. They follow and support them BLINDLY!!!

The Republicans, however, toss anyone if found out not towing the line.

And then there is "defending the defensible." That is a particular problem with the limited liberal idiots. They can't tell the difference between the defensible and the indefensible!

Who knows if that is a logic problem or an ethical problem... or both.


Hey daft! Don't you have a limited lib

site where you should be?

Why do you come to TH when obviously you don't agree with anything even remotely Conservative?

Is it simply to throw insults?

Anne
"Why do you come to TH when obviously you don't agree with anything even remotely Conservative?"

If it is a fundamental tenet that a man, like McClellan, is just seeking "revenge" when they tell the truth, then I guess I do disagree with your brand of Conservatism. He is being slandered for one reason, he's telling the truth.

for Rowly
Rowly writes: "Many conservatives who are disappointed in much of this administration's actions,nevertheless,will defend it against the likes of this rat"

WRONG.

This is the mindset that has to stop, if the GOP is to revitalize itself.

We do not OWE Bush anything.
Let me repeat that:
We don't OWE Bush a thing.

I'm a taxpayer. Bush works for me. I don't work for him. Bush is a public servant. And with any servant, if they aren't doing a good job, they can be FIRED.

I don't know where this bizarro idea got started that ordinary conservative American citizens, like myself, voters and taxpayers who aren't even in the government, are supposed to defend Bush's record. Bush is supposed to stand up for ME and the rest of the people, NOT the reverse.


McClellan's book is #1 on Amazon.com
and it publisher has immediately doubled its initial printing.

Scott, Romney.
Thank you, Scott McClellan.

If John McCain picks Mitt "I'll flip flop on any issue Romney", I'll do EVERYTHING I can to make sure the ticket loses, and that's a promise!

Steve
Thanks for the lecture,though I do not need it.President Bush has done many things I am not satisfied with,but I will defend him against left wing lies every time.

You are free to agree with liberals who never have a kind word to say about the president.Say what you like,but tell the truth.Don't make up lies and repeat them,as we see here over and over.

You do owe the office of the presidency loyality.You do need to defend the president when he is set upon by the enemy.Liberals are the ENEMY.But you feel free to demand payback for his sins.Have at it!!




daft: You didn't even come close to

answering the question!

But, I suppose that's about as much as we can expect from somebody who doesn't bother to read a column, yet posts a derogatory comment.

KYJurisDoctor - post 84
And, I will do the same, Sir. Anyone who can run to the left of Ted Kennedy is a RINO and CINO, the likes of which are universally condemned here. "But he was just trying to win the election" is the cry. The term for that is LIAR. "You are just a bigot" is another popular one. Just wait until you repeat your comment on a more widely read day. Never think that the FACTS of his sorry record will suffice with the idiots who will come out of the woodwork.

AGAIN, I COULD NOT AGREE WITH YOU MORE.

Have to agree with rowly
Steve, the matter of "defending" Bush may not seem worth the trouble from your POV. Like others, you wear your invincible, unassailable, irrepressible and all-important "conservative" codpiece; making you the only GOP spokesman of any merit.

That's indicative of false pride. I am up to a point very conservative too. I'm not impressed with my fellows who argue a position on the strength of their "genuine" conservative superiority. Please do forgive me if,

If for simply using one word like genuine, not meaning to sound aristocratic or anything, all you meant was serious conservative. But after all; we are all serious.

Bush has been serious too. He did what he promised to do in the aftermath of 9-11. Nobody has a call to publish such snake-in-the-grass character assassination and fool second-guessing of McClelland's kind. NOT against George W. Bush; a great man.

Years will pass and they'll meet once again somewhere in Texas. I only hope W bitsh-slaps that ungrateful punk till he makes him cry. NO-- I wish I could do it myself. I wouldn't do THAT conservatively.

Nam65-66 - post 64
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

What a wild and crazy guy you are! What a sense of humor! You shouldn't have done anything other than stand up comedy!

Democrat Debaucle
Dreadnaught...Thanks for the kind words.

I see Obama has left his church after the dust-up with the Priest,who ridiculed Hillary.I wonder how she took the ridicule.Piling on.

I watched much of the Democrat Rules Committee today on CSPAN.It is hilarious to watch them.They are self-destructing.No one agrees what to do.There will be trouble soon.

The Drudge Report says they offered Hillary a 'dignified departure.'She probably won't be dignified about it.There will be he!l to pay before this is over.

The president was speaking at a college in SC today.There were protests by some students and several 'professors' stood with their backs to him. Left-wing bozos patterned after Ward Churchhill and Bill Ayers,no doubt. Shameful.

That's my gossip for tonight."Say goodnight,Gracie"......


Anne
Hey there...I just read your reply to my post.Thanks.I get so tired of the Bush-hating.It's like a broken record.You know the names and exactly how they will react to anything 'Bushy".

I listen to Washington Journal on CSPAN every morning with my coffee and newspaper.They have call ins and I have heard the Bush-haters since 2000. You name it...I've heard it.


Kyjuris doctor........huh?! The wolf!
ooooooo big bad wolf is gonna huff and puff and
blow the gop ticket away if Romney is on the ticket! ooooooo big bad wolf doesn't realize about all he can do is NOT VOTE for the ticket!
Sorry doc...I hate to educate a DOCTOR OF JURIS!
ooooo we all are so intimidated by you!Stay home then...one less potential auto accident!
elvis

Rowly: No problem... Happy to do it!

You might recall, Christopher Hitchens said,
"'Bush is stupid' is the joke that stupid people laugh at."

I certainly don't agree with every thing that Hitchens says, but I think he's spot on with this one...

Rowly: BTW, did you get logged in?
.

Rowly
It does not matter if Scott is a rat. What matters is that he is telling the truth.

Savage99
Who knows if this story will have long legs. What is clear is that the attacks have been against Scott not a real challenge to the facts which most people except for a very few rabid Bush lovers on the right know to be true.

Who cares what anyone's motivation for writing any book as long as they get the story straignt.


JMO51
No. What could potentially matter is IF he is telling the truth. Then, there is only a potential of something which may be no more than bruised feelings.

Scott needs to get a job and a life. If he is so incensed by what he says he saw or heard, why didn't he have the integrity to quit of his own accord much earlier?

Anne..
Sure did.Thanks.

"Robert" :-
Careful!


The Constant Gardener
The fact that Soros' crowd aided him,says all I need to hear.We all know what the moveon.org group wants.Socialism.The Republican party is about the only thing standing in their way.

They have bought the Democrats,lock,stock and barrel.We are an impediment and need to be abolished.Anything that will make us look bad,Soros is for.

It does not bother me one bit what others say about my opinion.It is set in stone.Time will tell who is right and who is wrong.


Hey ROWLY, You a Clinton-ista??

I didn't think so... HA HA HA HA

Can you believe this???
"... There were protests by some students and several 'professors' stood with their backs to him. ..

"To have the POTUS come speak at a graduation, any graduation is a great honor (any POTUS) and it should be treated as that. There is a time for politics, this is nto it.

"He [Pres. Bush] has harmed it worse then Mr. Clinton could have imagined."

Only ol' what's his name could twist the ill mannered and bad behavior by students and professors, on Pres. Bush.


He must be getting his best shots in now while he still can. :-)

Robert
If you have five vests 'hanging on your wall',you probably stole them.The only scars you have is from patting yourself on the back.

Anne
Yeah,and his best shot is a dud.

Robert
I have never read a book about the Clintons. I don't care what has been said about them and have no desire to defend them on anything.

I don't care what Scott McClellan says about Bush. I won't buy, borrow, check-out, or read his book. I have no desire to defend Bush against McClellan. I have enough opinions about Bush that someone needs to defend him on, i.e. our sieve of a southern border, not firing U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton when he withheld exculpatory evidence in the Ramos and Compean trials.

Anne
That old BDS gets them every time.

Robert
You are the kind of person who butts in unasked.
You are the kind of person who thinks the Clintons are the best thing since sliced bread.
You are the kind of person who relates everything to your abject hatred of GWBush.
You are the kind of person who goes where he is not wanted and tries to antagonize his peers.And they are your peers.
You are the kind of person who has no life and comes here to try to fool people into thinking you are or ever have been ,important.
You are the kind of person who lives to see the country socialized and you reflect it every day .
You are the kind of person who is probably the most disliked of anyone who posts on these threads.
You are the kind of person who mistakenly thinks anyone wants your criticism of their posts.Especially me.
Now,you have a good morning and stay away from the threads.



I just love seeing hypocritesa
saying they would defend the office of the presidency. But that isn't what happened when Clinton was in office. Rowly, you are a hypocrite.

Anne, you never answered me. Just exactly what is there to doubt in the McClellan book.

I loove how how you idiots ignore facts that are undeniable about 9-11.

I only continue to mention them so that some day you can quote them to say you knew all along. They are too obvious to ignore.

Steel microspheres found throughout the dust, that could only have been formed by having very liquid steel (melted columns-thermite) blasted out into thin air (explosive charges).

Angle cuts on the vertical columns.

Funny how this discussion of rats supporting rats completely proves the fallacy of the main reason people say the conspiracy of 9-11 could never happen. People say a conspiracy could never hold together, but here we see the argument against McClellan, even though he's a rat I will support him. Yes, conspiracies among rats are very strong. They depend on themselves for survival.

Watch Zeitgeist. I see a few of you at least starting to say you "never really supported Bush." What chicken-**** lies. Your opinions were always the same as Fox told you. But now, like rats, you sense the ship is going down. If it's the ship, run like hell, but if it's one of us, die defending him.

Rat psychology.



Robert..
On one thing you are correct.I am right-wing.I admit that.Dang proud of it,too.I never said I was not on the right.That gives me an out when the moral decay in our country is mentioned.You know where THAT came from.

You cannot truthfully say we caused it.Oh yes YOU can,because you wouldn't know the truth if it slapped you upside the face every time you tried to post one of your offensive posts.

Now the real lie you have repeated more than once.I have never once said I only watch Fox station.I said I do not watch other NEWS SHOWS.Network or cable.I do watch Dobbs and Beck.That is not just news.

What bothers me and others about you,Robert,is if the truth doesn't fit,you will make up lies.Lies just reduce you to the lowest form of writer on these threads.

Puts you right in with the other lefties who you must agree with on everything.You sound just like the left lunatic fringe.

Rowly and Anne
You two are quite a pair!

To'..'If 2+2=5,I Am Right
I don't think you know what or who I supported back then.Maybe he is why I turned to the RIGHT. Yours is just another erroneous supposition.Join Robert in his fallacies.You deserve each other.

Rowly: You've pretty much hit the nail

on the head!

"... you wouldn't know the truth if it slapped you upside the face..."

But he's at least "aware" just enough to know he should be concerned.... which is why, in part, his posts get more and more offensive...

Anne
I always say I will ignore him,but he is like a cancer,you can ignore for a while,but sooner or later you have to take care of it.

He has lots of fairy tales he likes to repeat.They are like Snow White,Cinderella,etc.All fairy tales. The Jerk.

toon hall server sucks


It tells us 122 posts are in this thread. We get to see only two of them. Nothing is seen of the preceding 120.


When's TH going to overhaul this piece of junk?

dread
Too bad what you say is not true. Then we wouldn't have to read your post!

The other McClellan
I have to wonder if Scott McClellan is any relation to Lincoln's George McClellan. It would a fine fit. If you all don't remember little General George McClellan was commander of the Army of the Potomac during the very first part of the American Civl War. McClellan had nothing but contempt for Lincoln. Lincoln removed him from command. And, in 1864 McClellan opposed Lincoln in the Presidential election. McClellan was read to make peace with the Confederacy......the country would have been split in two. And, even the recently conquered western part of the United States might have formed another country.

Am I the only one who noticed that the headline writer misspelled McClellan's last name?

hi, verpie


It may be the format works badly for my Mac. OK, you don't want my posts. I can understand.

Nevertheless it's an open forum. Your taste isn't overly important; that's not a problem for me. Post anything you want.

McClellan Merely States the Obvious....
McClellan merely states the obvious: that the warmongering Bush Administration ginned up a propaganda campaign based on lies and hyped-up myths in order to scare the American people into supporting a completely unnecessary war.

Since McClellan's points are only too obviously true, the bulk of the attack against him is personal in nature: "he was a sore loser and his book is just sour grapes."

Not that McClellan deserves any awards for seeing what Scott Ritter, Hans Blix, Mohammad El-Baradei and others saw quite clearly, years earlier, in the frantic run-up to the Iraq war and occupation.

To Paolo
Paolo writes, "Not that McClellan deserves any awards for seeing what Scott Ritter, Hans Blix, Mohammad El-Baradei and others saw quite clearly, years earlier, in the frantic run-up to the Iraq war and occupation." Please, I never had a better laugh at your incredible list of non-credible sources.

Robert
Everytime I catch you in a lie I will call you on it.Your words to me.I am so sick and tired of your moralizing and your Bush hatred.You are not invited to jump into every conversation,but jump,you do.


No one appreciates your critique of every post.The only ones you agree with are the far left posts,yet,you think you are not left wing.You are just too much of a slug to admit it.

I admit my stance.I am honest with what I believe and will believe as long as I live.You contribute to the moral decay every time you write the lies you make up.Fairy tales.Big ex-everything.Where is your proof of anything you have ever accomplished?

If you were so important,you would not have time to spend hours harassing posters who despise you.You just think you are so smart.Wrong.Just a mediocre story teller.That's all.

Non-Partsian voices supports Claims
Marc Garlasco (chief of high-value targeting for the Pentagon)gave a non-partisan interview on NPR radio April 8, 2008 which supports McClellan's claim that the WH cherry-picked intelligence in its report to the Congress. Don't Believe go to NPR.org and check it out (21min into the interview).
"Assessing the Human Cost of Air Strikes in Iraq"
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=894608 67

Robert
Every word you write just shows that you are nothing but a left wing socialist wannabe and a liar.Keep it up.

Your writing,punctuation,spelling and grammer,not to mention the garbled sentences which have no meaning just goes to show you are not who you clain.

You are just a disgruntled nobody with an ax to grind about GW Bush.What did he do to you? Take away your pension?

Now,it is time for beddie-bye for you,Robert.Have some nice dreams about Bush and Cheney. It will make you a better man.You need it.



Robert
I wouldn't gripe about it but it is undecipherable,sometimes.If you want to make a point,we need to be able to read it,no?

A little light Clinton reading for you.Vanity Fair has an article about your hero.It is at Politico and you can access it from Drudge.Just came out.

I suspect there will be some retaliation for it.Dede Meyers hubby wrote it.Get a glimpse at some of the Clintons dirty work.

Robert..
Just giving you a little of your own medicine. How do you like it?How does it taste,Bucko?

Why they lied
Bush and Chaney were lying from the start. Oil was $37 a barrel when they took office, that's all you need to know to understand their motives.

Romney For VP?
Having Mitt Romney for VP would be Political Suicide for the GOP. He has spent the last 60 years of his life being liberal. He has no proving track record as a conservative. It is because of Mitt Romney's poor judgment in Massachusetts that we experienced 2 unnecessary deaths inside the tunnels of the BIG DIG. He went way over Budget and the Contractors were using watered down concrete. I live in NH and we only have a State Wide population of just over 800,000 people.

Thanks to Mitt Romney our Southern half of the State is 80% ex Massachusetts residents. Unfortunately the people who ran from Romney's Tax and spend spree which left Massachusetts in a financial mess, bought their Liberal voting values and now NH has has a Liberal Governor and a Liberal House. We are in Debt for the first time since 1776. We were always a Conservative State and had a huge Surplus annually. Now we are an extension of Massachusetts thanks to Mitt Romney. His Mormon beliefs are very dangerous to our Political system.

He instituted Government vouchers to Planned Parenthood to perform abortions. He sunk the State into deep debt with the Big Dig. He signed the Bill for same sex Marriage. He gave his own state the nick Name Massachusetts.

wake up will
Subject: "Scott's book makes the case that" NO-- TRIES TO;


"Bush and Company were (are) in constant campaign mode," MATTER OF OPINION, BIASED -- Worth peanuts.


". . . Spin just doesn't have a "stop" point; the narrative is shaped & manipulated to SELL. PR and spin machines are the norm." ---IF--IF, YOU BELIEVE McCLELLAN'S SPIN.

"Too bad we had a president more concerned with packaging and marketing and selling a "pre-emptve ivasion" than taking the time to see how this action could weaken America. This administration attacks opposiion" AGAIN: BIASED OPINIONS. America is not "weakened." Nobody cares what you suppose.

"Strangely, I find myself with Pat Buchanan on this. All these wars of choice are unwittingly killing the Republic. GWB has been an enemy of the U.S.A."

REPLY: Buchanan is irrelevant; his opinion's no better than mine. Your bias is hard to overlook; otherwise we'd consider you just stupid. You may not be stupid; but your hard on for Bush is no recommendation here. If you hate him, tell it to the Democrats. Tell it to your king; the one-eyed one who leads all of you blind Bozoes --

I hope McCain is listening...
Mitt for VP!!!

reply to gt johns of georgia"
You said something ridiculous, sir.

Non-Partsian voices supports Claims
Marc Garlasco (chief of high-value targeting for the Pentagon)gave a non-partisan interview on NPR radio April 8, 2008 which supports McClellan's claim that the WH cherry-picked intelligence in its report to the Congress. Don't Believe go to NPR.org and check it out (21min into the interview).


Nat'l Public Radio is a hotbed of Liberal editorializing. When you listen in, you're being fooled. Don't be surprised if the only new job Scott ever gets is commentary on NPR.

not that there's anything wrong,


Has anyone else noticed sometime; the announcers in NPR broadcasts all sound effeminate?

Copycat
It seems to me that everything McClellen said in his book was just a repeat of old worn out news stories of the drive by media. Did he just copy old newspapers to pass it off as his own. I wouldn't believe anybody that betrays a trust for money. The word Judas comes to mind. I think that is the most low down person to be. Unacceptable in my book.
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