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Saturday, April 19, 2008
Robert Novak :: Townhall.com Columnist
Whither Hagel
by Robert Novak
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WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Friends of Sen. Chuck Hagel, the Senate's sharpest critic of President Bush's Iraq policy, say there is no chance he will endorse a Democrat for president this year.

That does not mean, however, that Hagel necessarily will back the Republican candidate, his friend John McCain. That could depend on whether McCain devises an Iraq exit strategy. Hagel and McCain, who occupy offices in the same second floor corridor of the Russell Senate Office Building, have been spotted conferring on two recent occasions.

A footnote: Although the conservative Hagel is an unlikely running mate for either Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton, he conceivably could end up as secretary of defense for either Democrat.

HILLARY FOR V.P.

As Hillary Clinton's presidential odds lengthen, feminist supporters have begun arguing that she must be the vice presidential candidate if Barack Obama wins the presidential nomination.

Obama was not responsive to this question on Wednesday's ABC network debate, but his advisers say it is out of the question. Clinton as vice president, they say, would weaken rather than strengthen the ticket.

A footnote: Many Democrats would like to see a military man as Obama's running mate, and specifically mention retired Marine Gen. Anthony Zinni. CENTCOM commander in chief (covering Iraq) during the Clinton administration, Zinni is a critic of President Bush's national security policies. Retired Army Gen. Wesley Clark is a vice presidential prospect who, unlike Zinni, has a little political experience. He ran for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2004 and actually won one primary (Oklahoma).

OBAMA'S PASTOR

Prominent Democrats in Michigan made no public outcry but were appalled to learn that the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Barack Obama's radical former minister, would keynote the annual NAACP Fight for Freedom Fund Dinner in Detroit April 27.

Democrats carried Michigan for president by relatively modest margins in 2000 and 2004, and party insiders worry about Obama's problems getting the white workingman's general election vote in Midwestern industrial states. They fear that Wright will alienate Michigan's white workers by what he says in Detroit.

A footnote: Hillary Clinton's Michigan backers blame her national strategists for ruining chances for a re-voted primary in Michigan that probably would have benefited her over Obama.

SPECTER'S NEW FRIEND

Anti-tax activist Grover Norquist, who was a fierce opponent of Sen. Arlen Specter's Republican renomination in his 2004 bid for a fifth term from Pennsylvania, is now his strong supporter for a sixth term in 2010.

Norquist has changed his stand because of Specter's backing for two standbys of Norquist's Americans for Tax Reform (ATR): business expense deductions and a flat income tax. Norquist traveled with Specter and spoke for him in Pennsylvania April 14 at three town meetings and two fund-raisers. Specter returned the favor April 15, appearing at the ATR tax-day news conference in the National Press Building in Washington.

A footnote: While traveling in Pennsylvania, Specter did not inform Norquist of his recurrence of cancer (which was announced April 15).

WHO'S ANTI-CATHOLIC?

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy has not backed down from giving "anti-Catholic comments" as a reason for not acting on the nomination of Federal District Judge Robert Conrad of Charlotte, N.C., to the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals. But Leahy said he was willing to look again at the views of Conrad, who is a devout Catholic.

At an April 3 Judiciary Committee meeting, Leahy was asked why Conrad's nomination was stalled despite a "well qualified" rating from the American Bar Association and backing from North Carolina's senators. He then raised Conrad's criticism of Sister Helen Prejean, who in her book "Dead Man Walking" denounced traditional elements of the Catholic Church.

Leahy, who also is a Catholic, told this column he based his view on what Conrad wrote in the January/February 1999 issue of Catholic Dossier. The senator added that he would take a closer look at Conrad's article.

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Hagel A Conservative ???
Evidently I have missed something recently in the political News that might indicate that Senator Chuck Hagel is a conservative.
Hagel along with Mc Cain, Specter, John Warner, Lindsey Grahm and many others are RINO's in the truest sense.
Also what has Chuck Hagel ever done that would qualify him to be Secretary of Defense. Yes he served in Vietnamn but unlike most other Nam veterans Hagel is able to add War Hero to his resume' because he became a member of congress.

Karoden: Exactly Right
Hagel is not a conservative. He was a Marine once upon a time but that does not make him conservative. What's wrong with Novak? Is he losing it?

I don't t like
Hagel particularly. Specially his opposition to the President's war policy. But unless any commentator has served as a Marine in Vietnam, they are not exactly qualified to call his heroism in question. Conservative? how about being anti-tax, pro-life, and pro-gun? Or is anyone who is not a loon like Savage a non-conservative?

K-R
I don't think you get the point - where was his fierce opposition when the decision to go into Iraq was being made? He was making war whoops just like 80 to 90 percent of the country including most of the dhimmirats.

It was only when it became politically fashionable, dishonestly expedient and guaranteed big media attention did his opposition emerge.

The adherence to certain positions does not a conservative make. A conservative is a person of honor who supports his own party's commander in chief's decision to commit soldiers to the field during the difficult times as well as the good - particularly while they are still in the field and he supported their commitment.

Regardless of your attempt to spin this otherwise, Hagel would not help McLaim with conservatives - period.

Conservative
“Conservative” Hagle??? Come on Bob, he is little above liberal McLame with a 75 rating for last year. LOL, I wrote this and then rerad the ret of the comments. It seems that I am not alone in this assessment of Chuckie.

karo/kapo
Novak's ability to scoop a story is indeed impressive but his characterizations sometimes make me wonder where he's coming from. He may feel the need to slant events and characterizations a certain way so that his sources continue to provide information. I don't know - just a guess.

Since Hagel was a Marine (still is in the parlance of the Marine Corp), he above all others should know that opposition, at least the loud public variety, should end when the troops are committed. Otherwise, it simply becomes support for the enemy and material for their propagandists. The idea is to destroy the enemy's will to resist - not to weaken the morale of our own soldiers.

As a Marine, Hagel chose to emulate the despicable Murtha - and not act in accordance with conservative principles.

We have a President. Not a King.
The problem is with identifying conservatism with the policies of G.W. Bush.

The two are not compatible.

Hagel loves this nation.

Just because Hagel refuses swig the neocon slop that has so damaged Bush, is no reason to doubt his conservtive "bona-fides".

According to Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, conservative political ideology "favors conservation of existing institutions and forms of government..or one who is disposed to maintain existing institutions or views".

I don't know what that specifically has to do with supporting the decisions a Commander in Chief makes.

I did not think conservatives had to "check" their judgment and beliefs in at the door, before entering and applauding the actions of a president.

Last time I checked, the President was not King.

Hagel's Problem is His Unreliabilty ...
not his conservatism.

Jerabaub, et al.: Arguing over whether Hagel is conservative or not is somewhat beside the point.

Grubby is exactly right. The problem for Hagel is that, conservative or not, he put his wet little finger in the air, felt the breezes change, and switched his position -- all the while preening in front of the media as some kind of independent-minded statesman.


The GOP is already stuck with McCain, who himself suffers from these very same flaws. Conservative or not, why would anyone want to add another self-proclaimed "maverick" into the mix?

Voters get one chance to decide who the best candidate is. The ability to rely on your candidate's willingness to be steadfast in his or her principles is critical. Hagel badly fails this test (McCain doesn't do so great either, but he's at least showing a bit more resilience since becoming the presumptive nominee).

September12Republic
More resilute, LOL he running to the base now and not doing a good job of it. When the general election capaign starts he will run for the so-called center meaning that he will move even further to the left.

Besides that, McLame is about as bad a liar as Bill Klinton.

Vic

I can't argue with the substance of your concerns regarding John McCain. He deserves every bit of the criticism that he's now getting from you true, unpasteurized conservatives.

It's just that I very much doubt that he's going to miss your vote, or the those of the small handfull of like-minded posters who are all having a temper tantrum over in your corner of the sandbox.

McCain's goal is to defeat Obama (or, less likely, Hillary). On a pure vote-count basis, the costs of winning back the totally p1ssed-off conservatives is not worth the risking the potential prize of winning over the less-committed center.

My only point is that Hagel, conservative or not, does not help McCain on either front. I know, from your many prior posts, that you do not intend to vote for McCain, no-how-no-way. What you do with that vote is entirely up to you.

September12Republican
NO I will not vote for a Republicrat. Until the Republicrat Party straightens out itself I will be voting for a third party. And I don't think of it as a Temper Tantrum, I think of it as principles and integrity.

Vic
I agree with you. I do not believe that Reagan would have been elected had the ultra Lib Carter not had 4 years to do what liberals do.

Any conservative that votes for McCain will communicate to the party brass that any republican will do. The time to take a stand is now.

Artis
I think there are a lot of us.

reactive elections
Without Watergate as a predicate, we do not get stuck with Carter, but his ineptitude oddly helped give America Reagan. There was no reason for Daddy Bush to lose to Slick Willie in '92, except that he reneged on "no new taxes," because he was too much an eastern/RINO Republican. The gadfly Perot also muddied the waters... Slick Willie got only 43% of the vote, yet would soon boast of a "mandate."

Oddly enough, things ended up OK with Slick in the W.H. because HillaryCare spooked everybody, so we sent REAL Republicans to Congress in '94, who gave us (with the benefit of the cold war curtailment) balanced budgets, fiscal restraint, and welfare reform. The lag effects of the Reagan tax cuts then led to a booming economy, all of which the weasel Clintons took credit for.

If we get stuck with Obama and "change" this time, look to the miserable failings of Presidente Jorge (a profligate neoCON war of choice against the wrong bad guys with no truly good purpose, embracing ILLEGALS, spending and growing govt. like a drunken sailor 'Crat) as the progenitor. Voters often vote to get rid of the stench they know in the W.H. They should be careful what they ask for-- they just might get Obama's socialist agenda. Then again, it is a Hobson's Choice... nobody really wants Presidente Jorge refried either, i.e., neoCON Amnesty John.

Hagel
Chuck Hagel wants publicity.Every time he makes a decision,he runs before the cameras. Who cares what he does? Chuck Hagel,that's all.

As for Hillary and Obama,I have always said whoever wins this campaign,will accept the other as VP.They will have no choice.George Soros will tell Dean and the Party and that will be that.

Hillary will not want to go back to the Senate and work with so many who turned their backs on her.She knows who her friends are now.She could punish them if she was Pres.,or even VP.

'Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned'will have a new meaning when Hill gets through with her enemies and I can't wait to see it.

April 15 th
April 15 th is a dark day in America. It is the day that John Wilkes Booth shot Abraham Lincoln, as well as the day traditionally recognized as the day of reckoning to fund politician vote buying schemes. Let's redeem April 15th by changing election day in the Constitution from the second Tuesday in November to April 15th.
How about that cause Novak?
God bless

CINOs hate RINOs
Conservatives-in-name-only apparently think being a conservative means blindly supporting any damned thing the Republican-in-chief decides to do...conservative principles notwithstanding.

As a former editorial writer for a conservative metro daily newspaper in the Midwest, I see Hagel as a principled conservative: He opposes foreign adventurism and nation-building, opposes big-government spending programs such as the prescription drug program Bush signed, favors seeking bids for multi-billion dollar contracts and takes a dim view of war profiteering, thinks the Bill of Rights is worth preserving...stuff like that.

As for why some people consider Hagel a hero, it just might have something to do with the fact he received the Congressional Medal of Honor for his service in Vietnam.

correction
I believe this is erroneous:

"As for why some people consider Hagel a hero, it just might have something to do with the fact he received the Congressional Medal of Honor for his service in Vietnam."

It was Sen. Bob Kerrey (not to be confused with the windsurfer John Kerry, whose real family surname was Cohen) from Neb. who had received the Medal Of Honor

Hagel served in Viet Nam, and received decorations, but not the Medal Of Honor...

"While serving during the Vietnam War, he received the Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry, Purple Heart, Army Commendation Medal, and the Combat Infantryman Badge"

Perry White, Lodestar
Perry, very good and rational observation.

Lodestar, Your comment that an Obama win might be due to "miserable failings of Presidente Jorge...with a profligate neocon war of choice against the wrong bad guys with no truly good purpose," pretty well sums it up.

I might quibble slightly with "no truly good purpose" part, for the neocons had what they viewed as a good purpose in their man, Ahmed Chalabi, whom they concluded would be well received by the Iraqis. But, alas, while Chalabi played well within D.C. neocon circles, he bombed in Baghdad. No $sale. They saw him for what he was. How could D.C. neocons be so blind? Cough.

Iraqi exile Chalabi had sold the neocons a bill of goods. Chalabi told his Washington, D.C. neocon backers that once installed as leader of Iraq, he would recognize the state of Israel.

And that was the plan. That, plus a "democratic" Iraq serving as an inspiration for muslims everywhere to call for "democracy" in their lands. Neocons duped an ignorant Bush to invade Iraq; In fact, after deposing Saddam, Bush administration flew Chalabi to Iraq, where it was just assumed he would convince the Iraqis to elect him president.

He was to replace Saddam.

Trouble is, no one consulted with the Iraqis.

They saw right thru him, even if the neocons and Bush couldn't.

But, at least Bush did see into Putin's soul.


Leahy
a catholic, who knew? Leaked information that got him kicked off his committee and led to the death/s of operatives. That's being a good Chritian. Abusing his power on current committee, yep, christian all the way. Supporting abortion..really, really a good Christian.

I know this is off the current discussion but
Novak did mention Leaky, I don't have all the info on his betrayal of trust regarding the leaking, maybe some other posters can fill out the details. He's a slimey, snarky progressive for sure.

And
don't forget to mark your calendar, April 27th,
Wright going on another rant. Did I hear correctly that he couldn't just do a eulogy a few weeks ago for a good friend that died, but had to rant.
It gets better and better.

No CMH for Hagel
Lodestar's right. I mistakenly credited Nebraska's Hagel with Nebraskan Kerrey's medal. My apologies.

Great Caesar's Ghost!

Mr. White, don't let it bother you. Editorial writers, conservative or otherwise, are not known for their factual accuracy. [:-)]

Tea Party
It would be worth allowing Vermont to leave the Union just to get rid of Leahy! Sanders is a socialist, but at least he has principles.

Not Conservative Enough
Conservatives refusing to vote for McCain aren't doing America a favor. The damage either Hillary or Obama would do would take generations to recover from, if ever. How long do you think America would last if she was on her knees, even for a week? Four years is a very long time to accomplish a lot of irrepairable damage. In good conscience, I have to do everything I can to make damn sure neither Hillary or Obama gets elected. McCain is the best of the three democrats running!

The "Conservative" Hagel?
I've got all the respect in the world for Bob Novak's insight, but I also remember being assured by the Press in 2000 that McCain was a Conservative, as they opined as to why we weren't jumping on his bandwagon. It may be that there are different types of "conservative", but Chuck Hagel is not mine.

Vic, Artis and others if you
are determined to not vote for McCain -

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE be sure to go to the polls in November and vote for your Republican congressional representatives! We must at least regain the majority in the House & Senate to keep whoever is the next occupant of the oval office in line. Too much is at stake to let the Democrats take over, lock, stock & barrel!

On Hagel's prescience
As early as Jan 2004 Hagel was one of few Republicans criticizing troop levels, lack of armor, and the autrocratic reign of Bremer at the CPA.

By 2005 Hagel was severely rebuking Rumsfeld's 'light foot' policy, and his refusal to acknowledge the existence of a widespread Sunni insurgency.

Also in a 2005 speech to veterans, Hagel was one of the first of either party to publicly address the strain caused by troop redeployments.

That same year he warned of the growing influence of a heretofore obsure cleric by the name of Muqtada al-Sadr.

At the time he was pilloried by conservatives for being a defeatist and non-patriotic.

Rather, he was a realist speaking truth to power.


Hagel is a fraud
Why did he join Bob Dole, Bill Clinton, Joe liberemann in starting a war in Bosnia? America had absolutely in interests in Bosnia. And the atrocities so called were exaggerated and total lies. Now the serbs are being killed.........and Kosovo has become Muslim. Hegel is a fraud.

For McCain to get my vote
Persuade Duncan Hunter to be his VP. There is no way Hunter would agree to do this unless McCain got his skin in the game on border security and the GWOT. Hunter could swear on his personal honor that McCain can be relied on to fulfill any promise he makes to secure the border without amnesty. It would also help if McCain fleshed out the supposed differences between him and his Dem opponents on the GWOT. Hunting OBL to the gates of hell makes a great sound bite but few people believe OBL matters anymore. All candidates have expressed variations of going to plan B once elected. Despite the party rhetoric and spin, we are getting out of Iraq after the election but maintaining a significant military presence in the area.

Voting for McCain out of fear that electing Obama or Clinton would lead to the end of civilization as so many RINOs argue is cartoonishly silly on the most fundamental level. Our survival is not precarious. There will be other elections. We do not elect dictators and are not at risk of falling into the dictatorship RINOs fear. We'll be fine whoever we end up electing. That is what makes this country so great. Calm down. The real opportunity in this election is to vote against the one-party system by voting third-party. And don't forget to vote for the conservative of either party down ticket. Don't stay home. Vote.

Lodestar
You say:

“It was Sen. Bob Kerrey (not to be confused with the windsurfer John Kerry, whose real family surname was Cohen) from Neb. who had received the Medal Of Honor”.

You mean John Kerry is one of…them?

More accurately: John Kerry’s paternal grandfather’s name was Kohn. He changed it, upon converting to Catholicism, over a hundred years ago—about the same time your ancestors came down from the trees and tried to walk without dragging their knuckles on the ground.
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