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Saturday, September 15, 2007
Robert Novak :: Townhall.com Columnist
Micromanager Hillary
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WASHINGTON -- Democratic insiders blame Sen. Hillary Clinton's micromanaging for her presidential campaign's acceptance of nearly $900,000 in contributions donated or raised by Norman Hsu, convicted for fraud and a former fugitive.

The Clinton campaign has insinuated that her financial aides dropped the ball in failing to vet Hsu before taking his money. But the senator is obsessive in running her own campaign, taking responsibility for details.

Hsu for many years has been well known in New York Democratic circles, appearing at events with $5,000 to $20,000 in contributions. Recipients were ignorant of his criminal background. Nevertheless, considering Clinton administration scandals about dirty money from Asian businessmen, Democrats are amazed that Sen. Clinton did not thoroughly investigate Hsu before accepting funds.

MAKING HILLARY WAIT

Sen. Hillary Clinton waited for five hours, behind three other Democratic presidential candidates, to hear testimony Tuesday from Gen. David Petraeus and Amb. Ryan Crocker because of a calculated political decision by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.

Sen. Joseph Biden, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, refused the joint hearings with the Armed Services Committee held by their House counterparts. Reid ordered that Foreign Relations would go first because its Republican members were not nearly as strong for President Bush on Iraq as GOP members of Armed Services, headed by Sen. John McCain. Of the top two Republicans on Foreign Relations, Sen. Richard Lugar has distanced himself from Bush policy and Sen. Chuck Hagel opposes it.

Clinton, as an Armed Services member, had to wait until late afternoon. Her principal rival for the Democratic nomination, Sen. Barack Obama, is a Foreign Relations member, as are presidential hopefuls Biden and Sen. Christopher Dodd.

KERREY IN?

Before Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska announced his Senate retirement, former Sen. Bob Kerrey -- president of The New School in New York City -- confided his intentions to a political friend.

If maverick Republican Hagel sought a third Senate term, maverick Democrat Kerrey would support him -- whether Hagel switched to the Democrats or stayed in the GOP. If Hagel did not run, Kerrey would return to Nebraska to run for the Senate.

Kerrey, undefeated in campaigns for governor and the Senate, is one of the most popular Democrats in Nebraska's history. Although he has been in New York seven years, he would be heavily favored in 2008. Secretary of Agriculture Mike Johanns, who resigned as governor to join President Bush's Cabinet, might be the only Republican capable of defeating Kerrey.

KERRY OUT?

Homeland security consultant Jeff Beatty, new to Republican politics, arrived in Washington this week with a Zogby poll showing him in a virtual tie with Democratic Sen. John Kerry in Massachusetts.

Republicans had not listed the 2004 Democratic presidential candidate as even faintly vulnerable for re-election in 2008. The Zogby poll gives Kerry 48 percent to Beatty's 45 percent -- a tie with a 4.1 percent margin of error.

That signifies Beatty's strength rather than Kerry's weakness, with Zogby showing Kerry far ahead of other possible Republican candidates. Kerry leads Andrew Card, President Bush's former chief of staff, 61 percent to 29 percent. Beatty -- a veteran of the FBI, the CIA and the Army's Delta Force -- frequently appears on television commenting on security questions.

SHRUM IN BLIGHTY

Campaign consultant Bob Shrum, who retired from U.S. politics after publication this summer of his candid memoir ("No Excuses: Concessions of a Serial Campaigner"), is now in Britain working for the Labor Party in the campaign of Prime Minister Gordon Brown.

Shrum was the strategist in the last two Democratic presidential campaigns for losing candidates Al Gore and John Kerry. But he has worked on the last three winning Labor efforts in Britain. Shrum has been a close friend of Brown for many years.

Shrum last month left his position on the New York University faculty. He is now an NYU fellow in London.

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Control Freak
Hillary Clinton, Control Freak? Who would have guessed?

Control freak is the word
and she wants to extend control beyond any independent live-and-let-live person's imagining. Golly i hope she doesn't make it to the WH. She is just too danged capable in getting what she wants. I think i am about to initiate a Conservatives for Edwards Movements. Uh, that's not quite right. How about a movement titled Conservatives for Edwards?

Eli Pariser of MoveOn.Org
Eli Pariser of MoveOn.Org is not too young to be a Hitler, Lenin, Stalin or maybe even worse. The look in this young man’s eyes is frightful and death to opposition is not out of the question. An elderly professor of mine fled Austria after the Anschluss lectured to us mush headed freshmen "Politics is not beanbag!" George Soros is an Alexanderite; ergo, a male bred from boyhood by the myth and folklore of Alexander the Great. This is common among Russian - Greek - Albanian and much of mountain Muslim cultures. Remember the story in order to win the fair hand of Roxanne it was necessary to undo the Gordian Knot and myth has it Alexander smashed it with the sharpness of his blade. To a George Soros type thinker the Constitution of the United States is their Gordian Knot and they will stop at nothing to smash it and make the fortunes from chaos their own. I confess being of speculative Cassandra thinking on this matter but I am the son of this wonderful country and I want my children and their grandchildren to live with the freedoms sacrificed for and given to me. Publicly, Eli Pariser is a mystery without portfolio, but he has a resume' which needs to be better explored. Things important are; was he the product of a Marxist upbringing, did he rebel from a structured institutional - religious existence, did he attend and graduate from university, where did he attend and what was his area of course study, was he the prodigy of a professor or academic department, does he have employment on his post-collegiate resume' and was it in private or not for profit endeavors. The seeds of this man’s thoughts are unknown and that situation must end so I ask those of you with greater access to pertinent information to make that information available before this organization gathers greater strength. MoveOn.Org could well become our domestic Al Quida.


Attack of RINO Robert
On Hillary, why should she spend a lot of time investigating crooked contributors like Hsu? She has the MSM who will either cover it up entirely, or briefly mention it and then sweep it under the rug. It would NEVER show up in October just before an election.

On RINO Hagel;

"Maverick Republican Hagel" and "Maverick Democrat Kerrey". This shows that ‘maverick", as far as Republicans go is just another name for liberal RINO. I sure as h*ll don’t know why Kerry would be considered a "maverick" Democrat because he followed the communist Dem line on nearly everything. Note that "Maverick Hagel" and the original "Maverick McShame" both appear to have considered switching to the Demoncrap Party which more suits their political thoughts. If it wasn’t for the support of the war, McShame would be the ideal Dem. I say good riddance to bad rubbish on his retiring from the Senate. His real reason for retiring is that he knows that in his home State his liberal actions have assured that he will lose.

On getting rid of John "look at my war wounds" Kerry, it doesn’t matter. Any Republican who could defeat him in MA would have to be a RINO and we need to purge the party of those, not add more.

On Kerrey/Kerry
You have the wrong guy. Novak was talking about former Sen. Bob KERREY of Nebraska, who really is a "maverick" as far as Democrats go - and who fought in Vietnam but never mentioned it much...

...unlike NOW (or should I say "sometime," given his noticeable lack of attendance to his job) Sen. John KERRY of Mass., who did NOTHING but talk about how he fought in Vietnam, ad nauseum, and is nothing if not a mainline, mainstream Democrat - that is to say "socialist" - of the highest order.

$900,000 is Small Potatoes Boys
If we are going to send Hillary to the bench for $900,000, pray tell what we will do in regard to the BILLIONS that Bush, Cheney and Company are strapping onto the backs of future generations of Americans? We are borrowing from the Chinese, killing our young men and women (talk about a drain on the future pool of business leaders) to fight the boogie man. Here are the numbers that should be the basis for imprisonment. We should make it clear that rape of the American public will not be tolerated, even if from the oval office.

Spent & Approved War-Spending - About $600 billion of US taxpayers' funds. President Bush is expected to request another $200 billion for 2008, which would bring the cumulative total to close to $800 billion.

U.S. Monthly Spending in Iraq - $12 billion, in 2007

U.S. Daily Spending in Iraq - over $200 million, in 2007

Cost of deploying one U.S. soldier for one year in Iraq - $390,000 (Congressional Research Service)

Lost & Unaccounted for in Iraq - $9 billion of US taxpayers' money and $549.7 milion in spare parts shipped in 2004 to US contractors. Also, per ABC News, 190,000 guns, including 110,000 AK-47 rifles.

Mismanaged & Wasted in Iraq - $10 billion, per Feb 2007 Congressional hearings

Halliburton Overcharges Classified by the Pentagon as Unreasonable and Unsupported - $1.4 billion

Amount paid to KBR, a former Halliburton division, to supply U.S. military in Iraq with food, fuel, housing and other items - $20 billion

Portion of the $20 billion paid to KBR that Pentagon auditors deem "questionable or supportable" - $3.2 billion

Number of major U.S. bases in Iraq - 75 (The Nation/New York Times)



No offense James
I find the meat of your comments to be accurate, but covered with so much academic snobbery it was hard to stomach. I agree that Mr. Penn should not be paraded around by the media as the Einstein of Political Circles, but your obvious disdain for ANYONE who has not gone to an Ivy League school is insulting to those who can think without the input of the 88% leftist-leaning professors of propaganda.
Is is so difficult to believe that a person can be self-educated? Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, and Ben Franklin, et al. were actually "drop outs" of a structured school system. Yet they went on to become historical figures in both name and deeds. Is it so impossible for someone to render an opinion without having had the joy of facing down yet another paper snob who insists that you are incapable of true understanding if you have not had the means or foresight to sit and worship at the feet of Academia?
So for those of us who may not have had the opportunity to walk the hallowed halls of any famous institution of indoctrination, um excuse me, learning, let me say for all the lay persons here: I am offended by your obvious contempt for anyone lacking a formal higher education, and thank my lucky stars that I learned to read at an early age so I could begin to explore the world around me, discover the history and persons that shaped this world, and to develop critical thinking skills that did not require $100,000 of my or my parents money.

Milwaukee Dan
Given that your sources are all from the farthest left and the most untrusted congress in history, I will take it upon myself to do my own research.
As far as Halliburton; overcharges can easily mean charges that the government did not want to pay and therefore they just denied payment. I work in the human services field, often charging third party payers, but I can tell you from experience that it is not uncommon for the government to refuse to pay or complain about paying for services that were already rendered. If I had a dime for every time the government decided that it would not pay me for services that I had already provided, I wouldn't need to bill anyone ever again. So forgive my cynicism regarding your post.

Micromanagement
Lets see now, who was the last micromanager to occupy the presidential seat of power? Do you recall Jimminy Carter, the absolute worst president in modern times, perhaps the worst ever? Surely, Ms. Hillary will micromanage her image to erase such a perception.

Beckie: THX
Beckie: THX, Small Catholic mens college and somehow graduated through all the beer spills and getting fogged out by Playboy.

Vic,
While your points about RINOs are well taken, and I applaud your search for perfect candidates, remember that "The perfect is the enemy of the good."

My guess is that you would respond "Does that mean that we should settle for 'good enough'?" And that would be a tough question to answer!

I am increasingly fearful that vast numbers of conservatives will sit-out the Nov '08 elections. While they will succeed in punishing the Republican Party for abandoning fiscal and social conservatism, they will also be handing over the Presidency to Hillary Clinton. It will also enhance the majorities that the (D) party enjoys in both the House and the Senate.

Presumably, the (R) party strategy is to assume that enough conservatives will 'hold their nose' and vote for (R) candidates. Although they may lose some votes from 'perfectionist' onservatives, they stand to gain by attracting a few more moderates and independants.

In a rudderless, divided and morally ambiguous country, can we blame them for making such a calculation?

IMO, the way to win is to focus exclusively on matters of economics and American self-interest. Those are areas in which conservatives can be 'perfectionist' AND 'centrist' simultaneously.

On the subject of economics, read "Sowell vs. Krugman - the debate of the century" at http://voice.townhall.com/g/3956455a-0c4a-493a-a3ff-3cc03ca78418

Milwaukee Dan
By your logic, we should just ignore Sandy Burgler's crimes* -- after all, given the myriad documents the government has, he only took a few...

Now Scooter Libby, convicted for a faulty memory about a non-crime -- he's a real criminal...

*Oh, wait, for all intents and purposes, we did ignore it.

Vic...Nice Try
Beatty doesn't appear to be nor comes across as a RINO (though further research is needed here) BUT let's face it, even a RINO from Massachusetts is a better option than just ANOTHER Socialist Dem sitting in the seat like it's his birthright!!

Unfortunately Jeff Beatty is goin to have to rely on a large Conservative turnout to win & THAT won't happen if Rudy is the GOP nominee... unless of course Mrs Bill is the Socialist/Marxist candidate next November...hmmmmm

Come to think of it...maybe Swift-Boat Johnny WILL get a good swift kick out of office this time! One can always hope.

W/O=

sans pareil
What I said was that to win MA he would have to be a RINO. Personally I would rather lose the State to a liberal Dem than win it with a liberal Republican.

Look at the grief the Republicans got over their "mess" when they were in "control". With 10 to 15 RINOs the Republicans were never really in control.

voice_of_reason

Yes, perfect may be the enemy, but then again, abject mediocrity is also the enemy of good.

Good.
I like the idea of a micromanager for our next President.

Since the current failure-in-chief demands that no memo be longer than one page, she'll be a breath of fresh air.

Voice of reason
Your suggestion to go look for votes among the "moderates" is a proven loser. Bush 41 tried it, Bush 43 has tried it and a couple dozen RINOs have tried it. All lost more votes from the conservative base, religious right, patriotic Democrats, and cultural values voters that make up the Reagan Landslide, than they gained from lefties that would never vote GOP under any circumstances. No politician can out-left a DEM. No matter how far left he goes, left wingers will vote DEM. The votes are in the people who stay home because its not worth the time to vote Tweedledee vs Tweedledum.


Political Parties
Political Parties were originally formed to give "like minded" people a method of advancing their candidates and to provide a sort of "political branding" if you will to the candidates. One wouldn't have to know a candidate well to understand their core principals if one knew their party. Republicans are supposed to be the party of fiscal restraint, strong military, free market capitalism, and personal responsibility vs socialism. The party that believes the constitution says what it says and actually means what it says. When you throw in Republicans who vote for and advance socialist programs and pork barrel spending it defeats the entire purpose of the party system.

BTW, the founders thought political parties were a bad thing and there is NOTHING in the constitution that supports the party system, much less the "two party" system where you have a binary choice which often comes down to choosing between tweedle-dum and tweedle-dee. That is one of my major gripes with all of the election and campaign finance laws that have been passed this century. They have been set up to advance the two-party system at the expense of new candidates from outside the system.

for Vic
Vic writes: "Any Republican who could defeat him in MA would have to be a RINO and we need to purge the party of those, not add more."

So what you're saying is that the GOP should just forfeit the entire Northeast to the Democrats, since staunch conservatives couldn't get elected there?

How about California? Staunch conservatives can no longer get elected in California either, due to the huge Hispanic voting bloc. So you want the GOP to write off California too?

If we listen to you, the GOP will be only a regional party of the South and West where staunch conservatives can still get elected.

Is that really what you want???

To SteveL
The NE and CA have been written off to the liberals for a long time, even before the influx of the illegals.

To answer your question in a word...YES. If we are going to have a Republican Party that is branded as a conservative party then all the liberals like you need to be purged from the party.

hillary
she should e tried for treason along with all other left wing nuts and executed,she is a totally wothless person,sheis a power prostitute

hillary
she should be tried for treason like the communist she is

hillary
she prays at the throne of move on .org,

Savage99,
I would be the last person to suggest that the (R) party try to 'out-Left' the (D) party.

What I do suggest is that Republicans should focus on CONSERVATIVE principles - but focus ONLY on those issues that relate to Economics and American self-interest.

Why?

Because, those are areas in which conservatives can be consistent, correct and coherent while resonating with the majority of the American public (including the conservative base).

I believe that IS a winning strategy in a divided country.

VOR
I would also add that they need to focus on the original meaning of the Constitution then I could agree.

It seem incongruous
to me that Sen. Clinton is both a micromanager and yet seems to know very little at the strangest times.

Several issues come immediately to mind:
Cattle futures
Whitewater
Johnny Chung
Rose Law Firm billing records
TravelGate
Madison Guaranty Savings & Loan

As I recall, her reaction was - generally - a position that she had very little personal involvement, or was unable to recall details.

So, which is it?
A micromanager or an uninvolved beneficiary of the events which swirl around her?

JohnL
Let me help you out. Hillary is glaringly incompetent, even to be Senator. In her career she has accomplished exactly nothing, except riding her husband's coat-tails to get elected twice. Outside of that, she has literally no credentials to be president, but in reality, none of the democrats do. That's not even being partisan, that is just observing reality. The only thing that sets Hillary apart from the rest of the kids is her ability to say whatever to whoever on any given day without any scrutiny from the drive-by media. Oh, and unlike Obama and Edwards, Hillary's (pant)suit is anything but empty.

Shocking
You mean a Clinton is actually responsible for her own avarice?

I thought the HillBill was smarter than that, surely there's a built in cutout somewhere.

A Clinton can't possibly be held to account for their own wrong doing.

What would the neighbors think?

$11 Tril?
Bman1 -

I am curious about your figure on the cost of welfare. Do you have any documentation to support this?

George Will had a column a couple of years ago in which he alleged that the total cost of welfare was $6 trillion. I did several hours of research on the internet and was able to document about $3 trillion spent on welfare in the federal budget, and much more by state budgets. There were categories in the federal budget (housing) that could have been welfare, but were not specifically identified as welfare.

Any supporting data would be highly appreciated.


Saint James
All you would have to do is track down the federal budget numbers since LBJ and add the budget numbers spent by the States on matching funds. Not too hard....LOL.

I think 11 trillion is a lowball estimate. What is even more difficult is since about 1975 they have been hiding a lot of the stuff in other budgets that make no sence at all. Like sticking welfare in the highway and military budgets.

What if .. instead of political parties,
.. we had labels that candidates could place against their names on a ballot.

Political parties (as Vic notes above) were NOT what the Founding Fathers had in mind - nor are they mandated by the Constitution.

They are a CONVENIENCE, but from an era in which it was too difficult to categorize political variables.

If we can suspend 'status quo' thinking for a few moments .. surely we can come up with a better classification system.

For one example, read "What kind of FOUR LETTER conservative are you?" at: http://voice.townhall.com/g/8bd7f22e-41a5-4841-9f4c-d7e708d99b85

Using this method, I am 'ABCB' but I might vote for someone who is 'A AorB X AorB'; the 'X' indicates a non-preference in that category. But anyone who is 'C' in categories 2 or 4 will NEVER get my vote.

Politicians can be classified based on their voting records. Individuals can self-classify themselves, or take on-line surveys!

JohnL, you wrote:
"As I recall, her reaction was - generally - a position that she had very little personal involvement, or was unable to recall details."

For some reason, the phrase "willing suspension of belief" comes to mind.

This phrase ought to start sticking to her like caramel to an apple.

VOR
I have seen the system that you recommend and I generally agree with it, provided the questions and surveys can be correctly configured. I don't give much hope of something like that gaining favor unless the ABCD etc. can be converted to catchy names. People have been seduced by Madison Avenue and can no longer think unless it is in jingles and phrases. Even when I was in school we all had our own catchy mnemonics to aid in remembering complicated things.

(And most of the ones we used were obscene.)

Eli Pariser Stuff
By CARL CAMPANILE ~ New York Post 9/15/07
September 15, 2007 -- MoveOn.org is the $28 million left-wing smash-mouth bully of politics.

That's how much its political action committee spent last year to help Democrats win control of Congress - with nearly all the funds coming from contributors funneling their donations to candidates through MoveOn.

The trash-talking group has come under fire for running an ad saying Gen. David Petraeus will "betray us" by not pushing an immediate military bailout of Iraq.

MoveOn was founded by Silicon Valley's Joan Blades and Wes Boyd in 1998 to fight President Bill Clinton's impeachment over the Monica Lewinsky scandal.

Within months, more than half a million people had signed its online petition opposing Clinton's ouster - proving that the Internet could be used to launch a grass-roots political campaign.

MoveOn, now with more than 3 million members, raised and spent more on political campaigns last year than all other PACs but one, the pro-choice Emily's List.

Then there's executive director Eli Pariser, a 2000 college grad hired after

9/11. Tax filings show he is paid a cool $114,171 a year.

"[MoveOn has] become an influential force," said Massie Ritsch, a spokesman for the Center for Responsive Politics, a Washington research nonprofit. ". . . It's a $28 million gorilla."

carl.campanile@nypost.com

Shrillary wants to be your mommy
She wants to tell you whether or not to have insurance, even if you don't want it, and wants to make you pay for the irresponsible choices of others.

Her favorite book is Robin Hood, and fancies herself robbing from the rich and giving to the poor.

Of course, she forgets about "tha little guy" she is robbing and stomping on in her frenzy to give away all our money to her kept pets.

Al Quida marches on Washington.
Al Quida marches on Washington.

Never too cold for smoking dope and oral sex under a tree!

Abbie – STEAL THIS BOOK – Hoffman is dead, Jerry – Yuppie Networking Program – is dead, Pig Pen and the Hog Farm are gone gone gone.

Most of the cast of Woodstock ended up in mental institutions, penal institutions, or prematurely dead.

Are these fakers having fun yet?

It’s tough to have fun with the AIDS virus jumping off of toilet seats.

Monday is the first day of the workweek – GET A JOB!

Saint James
2 trillion, 6 trillion, 3 trillion, 11 trillion, who cares. It is still too much money that has been spent without little, if any, results.

Oops
Last part should read, with little, if any, results.

Saint James
The hard math on welfare costs is published by many sources, and the data usually reflects the interest of the researchers. Many programs that have existed for 40+ years have beeen renamed and "relaunched" any number of times to avoid connection with the terms "welfare" or "public assistance".I can tell you from personal experience that our current system begets itself and has grown many tenticles over the years.

Child protection services in NJ have increased in size and scope considerably over the 24 years i've been in the field, and we now have "support" services because DYFS is often unable to carry out services because, A. it is a bureaucratic mess B. No value judgements can be made. C. Our inner city departments are corrupt money pits D. Lawyers now protect abusers, who always know their "rights".

Neighborhoods that were inhabitable 25 years ago are now war zones because police aren't allowed to intervene as needed and legal ramifications for crime are laughable. Rights of the offenders, you know. It is costly to deal with the health care from gang violence and the multiple babies born in these areas.

Schools now absorb many costs formerly assumed by families. My district (I work in a school) provides breakfast and lunch not only to students but "families" seen as "needy". The original thinking being that the parents would have "incentive" to get their kids to school. Many show up late and hungry . Day care and on-site medical care is now provided in some districts (not the rural or suburban ones).

The social work landscape shows a definite increase in dependents and those who see the government as the solution to their problems. Not even a solution, really; simply a way to remain sustained while continuing to do whatever is wanted.

About Hillary- it doesn't matter what she does. Her supporters aren't thinkers. They're drones.

SWMichiganBill
Results have indeed been yielded; a "need" for more services to deal with the results of the previous services! What an irrevocable mess!

$900,000.00 Being Peanuts?
Ok guys,

I provide the ingredients, give the recipe, now I have to BAKE the cake for you (as opposed to half-baking it).

I challenge anyone to defend the cost of this war, to tell me how it was budgeted or planned effectively, and then to tell me how this is not the single most expensive mess (adjusted for inflation) of the last 100 years.

I'm for sending ANYONE to jail who has violated the law, Democrat or Republican. I just think this current administration, through stupidity and incompetence, has got to be held criminally liable. If it were a Dem that had done this, I'd feel the same way. The taxpayer is in a fistfight with both parties, and I say you take the big guy out first and set the example. No more!

If you all must know, I'm a Proxmire Democrat, we dont exist anymore!

Nothing that Bill Clinton (the conservative Boogie Man) or anyone else -- even Nixon -- has done so much to harm this country. Just count the dollars, and tell me HOW we are going to pay this back. INSANE. If all the "Conservatives" who read this blog can please explain how this will be done in a just and organized manner, I want to elect you NOW.

Why are we wasting time on Hillary? We should be sending a message NOW about what we, the American people, will not tolerate!

,The thing is , Milwaukee Dan
yYou questions are predicated on the the assumed truth that the war was the wrong move to make. Your subjective challenge for the cost of the war to be defended is a circular argument that will go nowhere. Lastly, you have provided a personal construct in which you are inherently correct and I submit that penetration of that construct is unlikely.

The same challenges of cost defense and undesirable outcomes,criminal liability, corruption, etc... can be applied to public education, our welfare system, corrections, and any other government operation.

I am curious about the Proxmire Democrat piece, though. I do not know what a Proxmire Democrat is.

Hello Oldsocialworker
About Bill Proxmire:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Proxmire

Bill wouldn't like this war either. Keep the men, women and money at home. Develop clean fuels and start a new independent energy industry. It's time we become revolutionary again as a country, not reactive.

Voice of Reason
As official platform planks, your suggestion sounds good. In the practical case, candidates will be asked for their position on social and cultural issues. I have no quarrel with this and it means that i may well wind up voting for someone with whom i disagree on some matters. Abortion, gay marriage are trivial issues to me. The 2nd amendment and illegal aliens are not. I would not classify either of the latter economic or American self-interest. I would have to do some heavy consideration in circumstances differing from the current, to vote for amnesty or gun control.

Thanks, Dan
I will read about Mr.Proxnmire.

"It's time we become revolutionary again as a country, not reactive."

I agree with this statement entirely- on many levels.

Heard a good one
Hillary Clinton, Henry Reid, and Ted Kennedy die and go to Heaven. Before them stands the Lord on His Throne and he askes them why He should let them into Heaven.
"I'm sorry I subverted the war effort," said Reid. "I was wrong and I stand before you a humble man!"
The Lord saw that he was indeed sorry and allowed him into Heaven.
"I'm sorry I was responsible for the death of a young girl so long ago, but I have now repented my ways!" exclaimed Ted.
Once again, the Lord saw the he was sorry for his misdeeds and allowed him to pass.
Hillary just stood there, glaring at the Lord.
"Well?", asked the Lord from His Throne. "Do you have anything to say?"
"Yes",said Hillary. "You're in my chair."

SOME Micromanager
Hillatola could not even keep her husband in line, then did nothing about it when the whole world found out he was committing adultery in the Oval Office, among other places. How the 7734 is she going to run the country and keep terrorists and tyrants from taking advantage of America? I gotta go throw up.
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