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Wednesday, June 11, 2008
Robert Knight :: Townhall.com Columnist
Media Ignore That Gagging Sound from Canada
by Robert Knight
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Usually, when a journalist is censored in a Western nation, American news organizations respond with collective outrage.

But as a major attack on press freedom unfolds in Canada, America’s mainstream media are silent. Neither the TV networks nor the major newspapers have reported on hearings last week at what amounts to a Stalinesque show trial in Vancouver, British Columbia.  

Mark Steyn, a Canadian journalist who now lives in New Hampshire and whose column appears in National Review magazine as well as several U.S. and Canadian newspapers, is facing charges before British Columbia’s Human Rights Tribunal.

His crime? Spreading “hatred.”

The evidence? A 5,000-word excerpt of Steyn’s book America Alone that was carried as an article, “The Future Belongs to Islam,” in October 2006 by the Canadian magazine Maclean’s, which is also a defendant. The hearings, which were held June 2-6, amount to a star chamber with the rules of evidence constantly changing according to the whims of the three commissioners. A verdict is expected in September.

Steyn and the magazine are also expected to be charged with a hate crime by the national  kangaroo court, the Canadian Human Rights Commission, and another such tribunal in Ontario. Not a single defendant has ever prevailed before the national board in its 31 years of existence. To be accused is to be guilty, Soviet style.

The Canadian press has been all over this story, but it has not registered a blip in the United States, except for an AP brief, an article in The Washington Times and on conservative Internet sites and talk radio.

A highlighted piece of the case was a comment from an imam, Mullah Krekar, that Steyn drew from an interview in a Norwegian newspaper:

‘“We’re the ones who will change you,’ the cleric said. ‘Just look at the development within Europe, where the number of Muslims is expanding like mosquitoes. Every Western woman in the EU [European Union] is producing an average of 1.4 children. Every Muslim woman in the same countries is producing 3.5 children. …Our way of thinking will prove more powerful than yours.’”

British Columbia’s hate crimes law requires only a “reasonable determination that the excerpt did express hatred and contempt toward Muslims, and likely caused it to spread,” according to the National Post.  As evidence, complainants cited postings from two California-based Websites, FreeRepublic and Catholic Answers.

The hate crime charges were brought on behalf of  a recent law school grad, Khurrum Awan, and the Canadian Islamic Congress’s national president, Mohamed Elmasry, and its B.C. director, Naiyer Habib.

The three want to force Maclean’s to run an identically long piece from their point of view.  That or contribute $10,000 to a race relations foundation, as Awan admitted under cross-examination, according to the Globe and Mail. Later, speaking before the Canadian Arab Federation, Awan threatened to use civil courts to extract “a few million dollars” from any media company that refuses their demands.

For the record, Steyn and Maclean’s are accused of violating B.C.’s Human Rights Code, whose Section 7(1)(b) reads:

“A person must not publish, issue or display … any statement, publication …or other notice that is likely to expose a person … to hatred or contempt.”

“There has never been a case in this country that has had such clear, concise evidence, ever,” said Faisal Joseph, an attorney bringing the charge before the tribunal.  Joseph noted that the magazine had introduced Steyn’s piece this way:

“The Muslim world has youth, numbers and global ambitions. The West is growing old and enfeebled, and more and more lacks the will to rebuff those who would supplant it.  It’s the end of the world as we’ve known it.”

Considerable evidence is mounting, particularly in Europe, that this scenario is a common sense observation.  Muslim populations are growing while other religious groups are declining, thus Muslim influence is increasing. Great Britain’s Labour government has even gone to the absurd lengths of describing any Muslim-caused domestic terror as “anti-Muslim” activity because the bombings make other Britons less likely to feel good about Muslims. There is open talk of infusing British law with Islamic Shariah law, an accommodation that the Archbishop of Canterbury suggested would be “inevitable” before an outcry forced him to recant.

But getting back to Mr. Steyn and Maclean’s, they are the poster victims of the trend in Canada to suppress the freedoms of speech and press at the whims of special interest groups.

Most Americans are not only unaware of the Steyn show trial but also the many incidents in which Canadians have been hauled before human rights tribunals and charged with hate crimes for merely expressing traditionalist morality in public.

An evangelical pastor, Stephen Boisson, was fined $5,000 by the Alberta Human Rights Tribunal on May 30, 2008 for writing a letter to the editor of a local paper in 2002 critical of homosexual activism in the schools.

A Saskatoon, Saskatchewan newspaper publisher and a private citizen were each fined $4,500 in 2001 for the crime of publishing an ad that listed five Bible verses about homosexuality and had a circle with two stick figures of men holding hands with a line across it.  Three homosexual men had complained that they did not like the ad.

The Canadian Broadcast Standards Council has for a decade prohibited the broadcast of any material critical of homosexuality. Stations that carry Focus on the Family and other American radio programs have been warned that they could lose their licenses unless  segments dealing with homosexuality are edited out. 

Many Americans have a warm, fuzzy view of Canada, and have no idea that a totalitarian nation is taking shape, instigated by gay activists and Muslim pressure groups in the name of “tolerance.”

They do not know because America’s mainstream media are refusing to cover it. 

Perhaps it will take someone like Britney Spears or Lindsay Lohan being charged with a hate crime in Canada to get the media’s attention.  But that’s unlikely, since celebrities have long understood  that the only group that it is still okay to ridicule is Christians, especially Catholics and evangelicals. And that’s not news.

As for Canadian mullahs attempting to use the law to gag Mr. Steyn and anyone else who gets in their way, well, that’s just not news either in the United States.

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Looks Like a Job For ... The ACLU
If this had happened in the USA, guess who would have been all over it like white on a polar bear? That's right, that hated, leftist, liberal ACLU. THEY would have defended Steyn's right to spread hatred.

Looks Like a Job For ..... A Shrink
Thats about the extent of my concern for the needs of the author of the ACLU comment above.

Oh MY! Sky!
Someone expresses an opinion opposed to mine, they must be crazy, oh sorry mentally ill. This is what the Soviet Union did to dissenters.

As far as things stand right now we have
little to worry about on this score. The Supremes even before the Roberts court have ruled so-called hate speech laws here unconstitutional while at the same time ruling hate crimes laws acceptable.

If you folks haven't noticed it, Canada has been becoming more and more like the standard European socialist countries every year. This is why Steyn left Canada and became a U.S. citizen to begin with.

Declare War on Islam
The next step is to expel Muslims from the West and destroy their uncivilization... but that won't happen at all, there is no will to defend our way of live and values.

I sure don't have much respect for the Islamic civilization. Does this make me a "hater" or a believer in my own way of life as superior for the human condition?


Bob Munck
What evidence do you offer for your assertion that the ACLU has the slightest interest in protecting the right to hold conservative viewpoints? Might it be their vigorous defense of the Boy Scouts’ stated opposition to homosexuality?

Oops – dang, I got mixed up there. Sorry.

Mark Steyn is a gem...
and each morning I look for a new article with his by-line.

Mr. Steyn combines wit and humor with his astute assessment of changing demographics.
His writings are not hateful. In America Alone, he clearly and accurately portrayed how changing demographics in the U.S. will affect nearly every area of American life. His book is a bell-weather of things to come.

Stay strong, Mr. Steyn. There are many here in the U.S. who support you.

Personally, I would love to be a fly on the wall to hear Mark's defense to the Canadian Human Rights Commission. That is, if he is even given a chance to defend himself.

Right Makes Might 4:23 PM EST
"What evidence do you offer for your assertion that the ACLU has the slightest interest in protecting the right to hold conservative viewpoints?"

From a lawyer's web site:

"The ACLU has stood up for everyone from Oliver North to the National Socialist Party, represented a fundamentalist Christian church, a Santerian church, and the International Society of Krishna Consciousness."

Here's an article titled "ACLU of Utah Supports Freedom of Speech for Conservative Republicans" http://tinyurl.com/6gpxne

ACLU is not liberal or conservative
I'm one of those rare Americans who REFUSES to live in either the "liberal" or "conservative" worlds. Such labels substitute for lack of thought. But it burns me when misinformed people put the ACLU in the "liberal" camp. If the ACLU is liberal, they would not have defended the Nazi Party's right to march through a Jewish neighborhood, or worse, defended Oliver North's right to speak. Put your mindless prejudice aside and know that, yes,the ACLU would quickly come to Mark Steyn's defense.
Come on people, start thinking and stop using mindless labels. The ACLU defends constitutional rights. Nothing more, nothing less. Feel free to label me "liberal" for supporting the ACLU, or "conservative" because I don't believe we should pull out of Iraq before restoring a functioning government there. I prefer to read as much as I can on any issue and then think for myself.

Oscar, Pull Your Head Out........
Oscar is everybody's typical liberal a**hat: "On the one hand this - on the other hand, that."

Oscar, take a breath, and (gasp) TAKE A MORAL STAND.

I know this is the very antithesis of liberalism, but PLEASE, just try and figure out what is morally right. You might be interested to know that none of us are impressed with your 'playing both sides of the street'.

MORALITY IS OBJECTIVE; NOT SUBJECTIVE. Please come back to this site when you've grown up.

Oscar, Pull Your Head Out........
Oscar is everybody's typical liberal a**hat: "On the one hand this - on the other hand, that."

Oscar, take a breath, and (gasp) TAKE A MORAL STAND.

I know this is the very antithesis of liberalism, but PLEASE, just try and figure out what is morally right. You might be interested to know that none of us are impressed with your 'playing both sides of the street'.

MORALITY IS OBJECTIVE; NOT SUBJECTIVE. Please come back to this site when you've grown up.

Ah Freedom!
"Freedom of Speech" evidently has deteriorated to the "Freedom of Not Being Offended."

Voltaire famous dictum, "I do not agree with anything you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it" is indeed now just an invitation to Hate Speech. And who decides? The (Government) Star Chambers, also known as courts, councils, etc.

But there is a reasonable explanation to this particular situation: it's Canada, which does not have the First Amendment to its Constitution.

Governments here (local, state, federal) would never seek to deny citizens their rights, minority groups would never seek to oppress the majority or subvert American heritage or attempt to restrict the rights of others, and the MSM would never knowingly show any bias or prejudice toward any group or individual.

Yep, we live in the Land of the Free!

Enjoy it while you can because it is fast disappearing.

morality - re inlwyr
Actually, counter to your assertion, morality "is" subjective, It all depends on what source an individual uses as his/her primary one.

For example, is nudity immoral? Or does it depend on time, location, activity? Is nude sleeping immoral? Is a woman "nude from the neck up" in public acting immorally?

Is being nude under your clothes immoral?

To quote a famous subjective moralist in the USA, "It depends on what the meaning of "is" is.

further
Is a woman who totally covers herself a more moral person than another woman who wears a string bikini on the beach?

Is a man who wears a dark hat, a dark suit, hair curls, and a beard, and genuflects in front of a wailing wall a more moral person?

Is a person who strides thru the streets and subways preaching or singing or carrying a sign "Repent" a more moral person?

And....

Where
are the sane citizens of Canada? Maybe they
should secede (the provinces that believe in freedom) to U.S.? I heard or read somewhere that a couple of the western provinces and some if not all the Maritimes would love to join up with U.S. Don't know where I got that from, but it seems to have been something I picked up along the way.
If we let the Globalists win NAU, we will have the same kangaroo courts here. I don't suppose Canadians have the same thing we have with the second amendment. Nah, the cowards in the progressive/leftist/marxist mafia would take that right away before they got to limiting thought and speech. Don't want any of the unwashed to start a revolution.

Tea Party
The problem is that the Canadians, just like the Europeans in general, are used to a lot more government control of their lives, as long as they get their bread and theatre.

We grew as a country originally from England with more individual freedom initially and then a LOT more individual freedom due to the "benign neglect" of the colonies.

Following independent that individual freedom grew even more with even written guarantees that prohibited the feds from interfering.

The Canadians actually started under the French and then went back to the British. The British however learned from the U.S. and tightened up on the Canadians (no benign neglect). In all, neither the Canadians nor the Europeans have anything like our written Constitution. They don’t have a lifetime of being independent either.

This is one of the many reasons why it is dangerous to flood our country with more immigrants than can be assimilated in a short period of time.

hate crime equality
"British Columbia's hate law requires only a 'reasonable determination that the excerpts did express hatred and contempt toward Muslims and likely caused it to spread....The three {Muslim entities] want to force Maclean's to run an identically long piece from their point of view...contribute v$10,000 to a race relations foundation."

Actually this is an excellent idea that should be implemented worldwide and even expanded.

When Muslims media print and show anti-Western and anti-Israel articles and cartoons, and propandanda like the Protocols of the Elders of Zion (Russian Tsarist publication) then they must be required to reprint anti-Mohammed cartoons like the Danish ones in their newspapers or pay money to a Western foundation.

No country, religion, race, ethnic group, tribe, clan, family, individual should be above the law.

Commit the crime,then pay the money or give equal time/space to an opposing view.

It's dangerous to flood our country
with people who do not wish to support and defend individual liberty.

A mirror image of Canada
As we continue down the path of greater and greater government intervention in our lives, press to emulate the socialist bureaucracies of Europe and err on the side of political correctness lest we say something that might be deemed offensive in any form or context, we become a reflection of what is happening in Canada.

I heartily recommend that for those who find no problem with that thought move to Canada. Just think, a place that will ease your paranoia. They really are out to get you.

The press will be like the Germans
under Hitler:

when they came for the disabled and enfeebled, I looked away;

when they came for the homosexuals, I looked away;

when they came for the Jews, I looked away;

when they came for me, there was no one left.

The ACLU did defend Rush Limbaugh on the spurious charges of his drug prescriptions on privacy issues. But the ACLU doesn't defend all rights cases. It often manufactures its own. Look at its chronic attacks on religious expression in the idiot name of freedom FROM religion. That's not what the 1st Amend. says.

Oscar & Bob
With all due respect, you all had better wake up. Public schools are teaching islam in NY, having kids dress up and read the koran in other places and the ACLU is silent. Nary a word of criticism.

Yes, you are right they have defended conservatives in a few places and even the American Nazi's several years ago.

However, these appear to be nothing more than window dressing to achieve the goal you all trumpet - that they are even handed. However, IMHO it's all a charade to have examples of "even handedness". I challenge you to find a case where they have opposeed teaching islam in an American government school. And there are examples of this popping up all over.

Why this issue - there is no more hateful, intolerant, destructive religion/ideology on the planet than islam. As I mentioned in another post, go to http://www.thereligionofpeace.com for more information. And I'm NOT affiliated with that web site. The Geert Wilders link is a particularly good one.

Let us know when you find that ACLU case.

If there has ever been a time
To stand up for Western Civilizations most basic Rights, its today.
quote:
For the record, Steyn and Maclean’s are accused of violating B.C.’s Human Rights Code, whose Section 7(1)(b) reads:

“A person must not publish, issue or display … any statement, publication …or other notice that is likely to expose a person … to hatred or contempt.
-----

Hate crimes gives factional bias a power to prosecute anyone who says something whose views oppose their own.
Be it religion or politics.
The only standard to judge speech or written material has always been if its slander or libel, to defame another is if its true or false.
Otherwise it is no crime, and never has been to express one's views.

Without this liberty and freedom of speech we are left with oppression of rights and liberty of conscience.
Going against the very basic laws of nature for all men.

Freedom of Speech is Foundational and Basic to Western Civilization, and if there was ever a time to defend this right, it is now.

Even for the people we disagree with, and in fact more so should we fight for their right to speak their own mind, freely.
Without a threat of prosecution by law.

I cannot understand any citizen of America, Europe or Canada that will not support Mark's Freedom of Speech.
He wrote the truth as he believes it to be, and so do the majority of us.
We all should find a way to support this man


Muslims
It's time to start eliminating the Muslims before they take over the world.

just bcause the survive bitter cold...
..doesn't mean that they have any moral or intellectual "balls", you know. Canada's politicians are just as hormone-less as the US's version - they just cost less.
Occasionally we see flashes of common sense out of Ottawa since the Liberals were thrown out; but the chance of that happening in the individual provinces is about as likely as Hillary Clinton re-taking the Democrat nomination.
Most of North America is fat and happy - well, maybe politically and intellectually lazy. They won't know what will hit them until it happens and those of us who have lived elsewhere have seen the torture; so ignore the words at your peril.

Doc
Grease the bullets with Pig Guts first.

But consider this. Before you can get at them you need to be willing to shoot the "Human Rights Commission" Nazis and the incredibly stupid Morons--we call them "Moderates" in this country--who appointed them. And the useful idiots who elected the Morons who appointed them. That's the size of the job you are facing. I'm all in favor of getting started, but need leadership. Haven't found the 21st Century Sam Adama yet.

Consider this too--CAC's (does that sound like a feline coughing up a fur ball to you?) actions PROVE there is no such thing as a "moderate" or "peaceful" Islamic. They are all Religious Bigots and Tyrants under the skin.

Deliverance Style Backwoods Snake Handling Fundmentalists Trying to get nukes. Ax Murdering Amishmen. The Canuks wouldn't tolerate this crap in a CHRISTIAN for 10 seconds but will lick the boots of the Sandnazis.

The Sandhumpers hate us because our women wear Daisy Dukes, Drink Jack Daniels, and boogaloo to Elvis. This war is about their attempt to stop us. It's not only 1938, it's 1859 and millions of women cry out for Freedom from Shitrear Law.

It should tell you something about Commiequeers, Canuck or US, that they hate Christians and jail them while aiding Islamic Religious Bigots who do and say WORSE things and are orders of magnitude more evil and dangerous.

the big mick


spelling correction
make that Sam AdamS. Or a Patrick Henry, or a Ethan Allan. ANYBODY willing to spill the blood of Tyrants and Proto-tyrants in the 21st Century.

Where are they?

mick

charlesmartel1 7:47 PM EST
"Public schools are teaching islam in NY, having kids dress up and read the koran in other places and the ACLU is silent. ... And there are examples of this popping up all over."

Do you mean they're teaching it in the way that a Sunday School teaches christianity, in a form of indoctrination? I've never heard of such a thing; do you have any links or references? I'm quite certain the ACLU would be interested.

If it's just part of a comparative religion or religious studies course, with other religions being presented also and in the same fashion, I don't see anything wrong with that.

I hate islam
I hate everything about islam
I despise islam
I loathe islam
I have nothing but contempt for the child molesting, raping mad and insane "prophet" of islam, mohammed the devils dick.
So sue me

Here ya go Bob Munck
This is happening all over the country

quote:
Pastors to monitor CAIR demands in district
Decision comes following mandatory Islamic presentation to students
Posted: June 11, 2008
9:30 pm Eastern

© 2008 WorldNetDaily

Officials with a Houston pastors organization have decided to monitor attempts by the Council on American Islamic Relations to preach Islam to captive public school student audiences.


http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=66865

And here is another story, many of them that are going unreported, and are aiding the corruption of this hate filled religion into America.

quote:
Parents demand discipline for CAIR indoctrination
'Every parent who has communicated with us has expressed that changes must be made'

http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=66207


talent scout
Whoo boy, that'll get ya a fatwah! Instead of wondering whatcha gonna do when they come for you though, give me a call, I'll be by your side.

I already issued a fatwa on islam
Dan
I hate islam
Its the most murdereous hate filled organization since Hitler

Islam disgusts me
I loathe Islam as well...everything about it. It's disgusting and vile and repugnant. It pains and sickens me to watch the Europe of my ancestors turning into a Muslim-dominated Eurabia. What sickens me more is to see that it is happening here in the U.S. and we are helpless to stop it. Why do parts of Michican resemble downtown Karachi, Pakistan? Why do we let millions of uneducated Muslims pour into our country? Like we need seething masses of Muslim youth on our streets? It's just sickening to watch....like a bad nightmare that you're helpless to alter. Europe is doomed. Canada is doomed. We are doomed. Thanks to the liberals and the fools that vote for them.

The ACLU is anti-American
Within the last few months Burt Prelutsky, a Jew himself, wrote about his shame that the ACLU is a Jewish anti-American organization that persecutes Christians and strives to eliminate any expression of Christianity in the public sphere. I believe he concluded that it stemmed from the historic Christian persecutions of Jews in Europe; now they're getting even.

A search of Prelutsky's archive should turn this article up. At any rate, anyone who has followed the activities of this parasitic organization (they feed on government money) knows that they are anything but impartial.

The anti-American ACLU
Has inspired 10's of thousands of new monuments already placed and planned of the 10 Commandments.
For every one they get taken down by some demented judge, 100 new ones are popping up in its stead

Some Muslims are actutally nice people
However, it seems Muslims are becoming more and more fanatic, and they and the victims groups are ruining it for everyone.

America should be a place for religious tolerance - so a Christian should be able to wear a cross in public, preach on a soap box or pray at school. A Jew should be able to wear a yarmulke anywhere he likes. A Sikh should be able to wear his turban. And an atheist should be able to make fun of the lot of them as much as he likes.

When Muslims or other groups, however, try to restrict the rights of others because they find their actions offensive - that's a massive assault on the First Amendment, which gives us all the right to verbally offend each other.

It is really scary how they are curbing free speech in Canada, but Canada never had a First Amendment. We do. Now, we just need to make sure we have judges who respect our Constitution...

talent scout 10:02 PM EST
"http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=66865"

That's it? One 30-minute PowerPoint presentation by two muslim women that's part of a year-long program on diversity? That's the best you can do? Did you even look at the slides?

"And here is another story"

Nope, same story.

Steyn should counter-sue
“A person must not publish, issue or display … any statement, publication …or other notice that is likely to expose a person … to hatred or contempt.” (Human Rights Code, Section 7(1)(b))

Under this law, Steyn should bring a suit against anyone who publishes, issues or displays the Koran. That publication is filled with thousands of hate-filled commentary against all non-Muslims, especially Jews and Christians.

This is fairly typical: "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them." Sura (8:12)

Free Speech
Where did it go? What in the world is wrong with the canadaians. Pretty soon they are going to tell you what to ware and where to go. Oh an what bathroom tissue if any you can use.

You people better start changing an not allow this kind of thing to go on. Or they will take you over.

Bob Munck
Sorry, Munck, but the ACLU is only for freedom of speech when it protects flaming left-wing lunacy. The ACLU would be leading the charge to string up Steyn and Maclean’s, not protect their rights.

American Media Silence?
Yes, it's outrageous! The American media is clearly ignoring this story because they don't want to draw any attention to it. I mean remember last week when we were all talking about that other Canadian story? And remember last month when the hottest talk was about that report out of Quebec? And then there was that massive flap out of Alberta last year. Remember? You know, that thing that created a media firestorm from New York to Los Angeles! I mean the American media constantly covers Canada...doesn't it?

But they're burying this story... aren't they?

Oh, one of those guys
Bob Munck writes:
- 11:26 PM EST
Subject: talent scout 10:02 PM EST
"http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=66865"



Bob Munck writes:
- 11:26 PM EST
That's it? One 30-minute PowerPoint presentation by two muslim women that's part of a year-long program on diversity? That's the best you can do? Did you even look at the slides?
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Had no idea I was giving a link to a brain dead moron, but it happens often on TH.
If your not interested in looking into all that is going on, I do not give a rats rear end what you learn.
You can bet money I will not do an exhaustive search for a moron.

Too many of you turned loose to ever hope to waken, or educate.


hate speech
Hate speech laws are coming here. They will be used the same way.

Read Janet Folgers, "The Criminalization of Christianity."

It's not insanity by Munck, it's inanity
Munck's premise is that Steyn spreads hatred. Wrong. It's called a warning to us all. The Islamofascists are massing (& birthing) on our northern border, as well as living here. I'm old, won't be around...but you young'uns, better sit up & take notice. And read - & support - Mark Steyn, a most excellent observer & commentator.

Free Speech Dead in Canada

Just make this your mantra, "Limited Government, limited government, limited government."

Like the police that leave notes in our cars if they are unlocked, the human rights commission has not only out lived its usefulness BUT CLEARLY has entirely too much time and money on their hands.

Time to eliminate the Human Rights commissions in our own towns. There are plenty of other organizations that are private or non-for-profit to fill the rare need.


Terrorist

Look what is happening in Arizona. There is a photographer that refused to work a "civil union" as she objected to the event.

She is being brought up on charges of discrimination. As photography is artistic expression - I'd say the US is right behind Canada.

I once had a client who was so vicious and unreasonable he'd interupt, scream, call my staff names - when I invited him to leave - he wouldn't. Finally I told my staff to only allow me to handle him. My blood pressure was affected from his abuse.

He happened to be a homosexual. We were terrorised for about a year. I couldn't refuse his business but merely limit contact and invite him to leave.

I beleive the guy had mental health problems AND he was constantly a heartbeat away from following through with his threats of persecution which, for a small business person, is monatarily deadly.

Extortion, theft and rule by judicial fiat - they can only get their way by taking away OUR rights.

Even in Kanukistan
this story is not getting any play. I live up here and I know. If you do not believe this, google Mark Steyn Trial; then google *Hockey Song* and see which gets the most hits. Canadians are all focused right now on the fact that the theme song to Hockey Night in Canada has been bought by the CTV network and will not be heard on the CBC anymore.

The only things that will stimulate Canada in a national sense are: (1) changes to Hockey Night in Canada; (2) removal of various lollipops that TheFamily have designated entitlements (e.g. $100 per child per month, regardless of income, marital status or whatever); (3) any change to the Waiting Line Health Care System; and (4) EuroCup/World Cup Soccer. If a Canadians house catches fire, he dials Ottawa and demands that they Do Something. Canadians keep their eyes on the pavement, their heads down, their shoulders slumped and their feet dragging, and they do what they are told. There are two national mottoes up here: *We are Sorry* and *What can you doooooooo?*

Anybody who thinks socialism is wonderful should move up here and get a job, and live under socialism for five years. No outside income and no escape from the daily life of the average Canadian.

By the way, for you public transit fans, yesterday we had two streetcars collide (think about that) and a union ticket collector busted for printing fraudulent tickets. They were sorry we were all late to work again. That is socialism though. Third time this week. What can you dooooooo?

Metro

I am all for privatizing Metro. The fact that they need Federal subsidy with increased ridership is outrageous.

Thank God Tom Coburn is stepping up the plate. But once again, it feels like a lone voice in the conservative wilds.

How is it that the private New York and Tokyo subways ARE making money and doing a better job of it?

Right to Work

Why is it that EVERY multi-state contract ends up being unionized rather than a Right to Work contract?

Why is is that Virginia transortation projects come in on time and on budget?

Why is it that Virginia is fairing far better than WDC and Maryland?

Freedom OBVIOUSLY is superior to Socialism.


Nazis and the ACLU
Nazis aren't conservative. NAZI stands for Nazional Arbeiter Sozialist Partei. I hope I got the spelling right. That's National Worker's Socialist Party, literal translation. They adopted some Fascist trappings, and contrary to other fascists they tried to eliminate all Jews. But they weren't and aren't conservative.
I have never heard of the ACLU defending anyone's 2d Amendment rights. Their defense of "civil rights" seems to stop with freedom of speech. And if you have your 2d amendment rights taken away, (see Canada, England, all of the rest of Europe, et.al.) your 1st amendment rights are next.

Canada isn't alone...
... in muzzling free speech for political correctness. France, Belgium, England, Germany, etc. are all going the supression route.
Finally, note that the same Canadian legal bodies, regulations, arguments and rationalizations have been used for years to silence, fine and even jail Holocaust "deniers." It's a little late for us to become outraged now.

Response to Bob

"Khalil Gibran International Academy, which opened September 4, 2007 in Brooklyn NY. " You can Google search this.

However, I do stand corrected. The ACLU has recently become involved in another islamic public school in Minnesota - so it's not correct that they have totally ignored this tactic by the fanatics and their allies.

In this case, I'm happy to say I was wrong.

Fighting islam in the US and Canada should be something every freedom loving person should do regardless of being on the right of the left. It is the antithesis of the freedom we all say we cherish.

Folks left Europe
and other countries, enduring unbelievable hardships, to get a chance for a better life in the USA. Their home countries are furious because they did find a better life. Now, the liberals in the US are apologizing to the old countries for having the audacity to be prosperous under the banner of freedom. Now, they want to make amends by surrendering our freedom to the old countries.

Why do they think people fled to the USA in the first place?

Demagoguery versus Justice
A quick "Acid Test" for the leftist is his propensity to abandon the traditional, proven mechanisms of law (in this case lets not prosecute for slander or libel - lets go for hate). The leftist is attracted to this position becasue it requires only an opinion. The position discounts facts and reason, two notable obstacles for the demagog. The whole idea of "hate crime" presumes the ability of the accuser to know what another person thinks or believes (opinion). Having elevated himnself to this lofty relm, the leftist is above punishing behavior based upon facts.

We don't need more "law"; we need to understand how ours works!

I think Orwell was right
We have always been at war with Eurasia...

"Religion of Peace"

Human rights apparently don't include free speech.

Have fun Canada I think you might be fvcked.


Why this Bias to Any Faith?
The media have linked The Fundamentalist LDS Polygamist group with a church that has absolutely no affiliation.

What does "The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints", the “Mormons” do? They let God rule and remain tolerant. The media instruction advise not to use the name of the church, with others because they have no affiliation, and never have, but is sells their news papers and increases their ratings.

I think the effort against the journalists, is another news-selling feature. It appears that neither the media nor we are very sensible.

It is a ridicules unfortunate waste of trees, time and money. We should pass a law, which requires Good News or No News? That goes for entertainment as well. There would be a complete turn around in positive actions in the world that we have never seen.

Let us, stop engaging lawyers who are happy to take our money for a storm raging in a teacup.

Oh well
They, like Europe, let it get this bad. Take my guns, take my rights, let others come in and have extra rights. I was not using my rights anyways.
Hey, Thats going on here now! Shoot!

Gays and mullahs
It works both ways, if you take away the rights of the majority, the rights of the minority will soon follow. The homosexual lobby can go before the Mullahs to state their case over having htier feelings hurt right before being beheaded.

RW sayz:
." It's a little late for us to become outraged now.

And I would say, never say never, and it's never to late.

Human Rights Commissioners
Have you ever taken note they only live in some Western Nation?

None live in Saudi Arabia.
If there is a single Nation on this Planet, that is in need of Civil Rights, its that one.

Yet not a single solitary "Rights" Commission will DARE fight the Saudi's for a Civil Right, they are so worried about in Canada for a hate filled religion like islam, that oppresses ALL CIVIL RIGHTS for everyone.

The hypocricy and cowardice is their one and true message for this world.
Saying very plainly
"We are cowards and hypocrites!"


Media Predictable
In the late '60's, while on a visit to the U.S. Kruschev told a litte girl that they Soviets (Marxist) would bury her.

The Islamofacists are now telling that they will "Change" us. Does that word ring a bell.
The Marxist and Islamofacists know what Hussein Obama means by the word "Change", so do the organizations like the Weather Underground, the Reverand Wright and reverand Phleger know.The Pelosi/Reid 110th Congress Democrats and the DNC know as does the Clintons and Kennedy's
The Democrats who blindly follow the Democrat Party and do not ask those who know to define change will find out after the election should Hussein Obama be President. By then it will be too late
Hussein Obama will fulfill Kruschev's and the Islamofacist promises as now being done in Canada with the help of the Media which has backed the Marxist and Islamofacists causes for years with their promise of silence.

talent scout 1:30 AM EST
"You can bet money I will not do an exhaustive search for a moron."

Couldn't find anything, huh? I'm not surprised.

M 12:25 PM EST
"they Soviets (Marxist) would bury her. ... The Islamofacists are now telling that they will "Change" us."

And Queen told us "We will, we will rock you."

Seek and ye shall find

"You can bet money I will not do an exhaustive search for a moron."


Bob Munck
Couldn't find anything, huh? I'm not surprised.
----
If you refuse to seek, you cannot find.

And when anyone does not want to find something, he can live in a world of his own imaginations.
We who do seek and do find, call people like you willfully blind. Ignorant, fools, nimcompoops, idiots.
Or liars.
Moron fits best for you Bob
I got it right the first time

speaking the truth
I find it interesting that Steyn quotes an Iman " we have more children than you. We will force you to live as a Muslim" So quoting the truth is hate speech. HHUUMM

This pandering to thinned skinned morons has to end.

To M
M says, "In the late '60's, while on a visit to the U.S. Kruschev told a litte girl that they Soviets (Marxist) would bury her." The truth is as follows from Wikapedia

Wikapedia, "Soviet premier Nikita Khrushchev famously used an expression generally translated into English as "We will bury you!" ("?? ??? ?????????!", transliterated as My vas pokhoronim!) while addressing Western ambassadors at a reception at the Polish embassy in Moscow on November 18, 1956.[1][2][3] The full translation of the quote reads: "Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you" (???????? ??? ??? ???, ?? ??????? ?? ????? ???????. ?? ??? ?????????).

On August 24, 1963, Khrushchev himself remarked in his speech in Yugoslavia, "I once said, 'We will bury you,' and I got into trouble with it. Of course we will not bury you with a shovel. Your own working class will bury you", [4] a reference to the Marxist saying, "The proletariat is the undertaker of capitalism"; a popular articulation of the materialist conception of history as the inevitable progression of class struggle towards communism."

Finally!
Barbie is the first poster to notice that Steyn is being prosecuted for QUOTING an Imam. Steyn is neither the originator of the speech, nor the publisher.. The CAC people should, by their standards, prosecute the publisher, and attempt to get the Imam identified to prosecute him. Steyn's article does not suggest the reader should "HATE" Muslims, simply that the reader should pay serious attention to the words they speak, and be aware of their purported intentions.

Further, the gay people of Canada would do well to review their support of these anti-free-speech commissions and regulations. While the tolerance of alternative lifestyle choices through criminalizing thought and speech may appear to work in their favor, the day may come where beheading a homosexual in Canada is less of a crime than speaking against them.

Stalin and Khrushchev
It is funny that a daughter of Stalin and a son of Khrushchev have both become United States citizens.

subject of canuckistan
It's not the muslims or the radicals of Islam.. to paraphrase General Patton."I love it when the enemy shoots at me.. then I know where the not nice person is and I can kill him" It's the subtle, creeping religion of Regressive European Secular Socialism

enemies of freedom of speech
The ADL has been the most prominent enemy of freedom of speech. It and othr Jewish organizations SPLC have fought hard to keep the holcaust myth from being exposed for what it is: a hoax, a lie, a vulgar despicable lie !
Since my earlier comment was removed I will repeat again the proposition that millions or one person was asphyxiated to death with an insecticide (that is right : zyklon-b was an insecticide) is nonsense. It is humiliating for an educated person to believe such nonsense.

Coverage
This may have been mentioned already, but I DID first read about this in the New York Times (I believe yesterday).

Enemies of Freedom of Speech
The original NAZI movement in Germany was a result of a band of evil men who had one thing in common Homosexuality! (Samuel Igra, “Germany's National Vice. 1945). Anyone reading “The Pink Swastika” (Homosexuality in the Nazi Party) will understand the modern-day homosexual agenda. To believe that such people would NOT use insecticide OR any other means to achieve their eugenics program is absurd. Joseph must be on drugs?
MWC
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