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Thursday, March 20, 2008
Robert Knight :: Townhall.com Columnist
Scoring Points by Demonizing Falwell
by Robert Knight
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How does a conservative columnist remain in good standing at the Washington Post? Taking a cheap shot at Jerry Falwell might do the trick.

That’s what Michael Gerson did on March 19 in an otherwise excellent column taking apart Barack Obama’s Philadelphia speech on race in America.

In “A Speech that Fell Short,” Gerson likened the late Rev. Jerry Falwell to the America-hating, racist, anti-Semitic conspiracy theorist Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

Lest I be accused myself of demonizing Barack Obama’s former pastor and mentor, please recall that even his defenders don’t deny the documented record that has emerged this week. It’s quite shocking.

Since Dr. Falwell is not around to defend himself against such a scurrilous comparison, I’ll point out the problem.

First, unlike Wright, Jerry Falwell was no hater. After his most controversial moment, when he blamed pro-abortion and pro-homosexual groups for 9-11 as God’s punishment on America for abandoning moral standards, he apologized. In his many years of opposing abortion and homosexual activism, he also offered the good news that Christ died for everyone and that no one is beyond the possibility of grace. He did not use profanity, nor did he repeatedly degrade any group of people the way Wright routinely castigated white people. He did not spin wild conspiracy theories, such as Wright’s conjecture that the U.S. government created AIDS to wipe out black people. (Wiping out black people is Planned Parenthood’s job.)

While opposing homosexual activism as a false and dangerous hijacking of the civil rights movement, Dr. Falwell took pains to explain the difference between sin and the sinner, and welcomed all people to his church. But gay activists and liberal media routinely painted him then and now as a “hater” and “bigot.” This week, Mr. Gerson joined the bashers, firing this vile shot:

Yet didn’t George Bush and other Republicans accept the support of Jerry Falwell, who spouted hate of his own? Yes, but they didn’t financially support his ministry and sit directly under his teaching for decades.

Whoa, Mr. Gerson. Do you mean to say that if the Republicans had attended Thomas Road Baptist Church, or perhaps Liberty University, where Dr. Falwell was founder and chancellor, that this would be morally equivalent to Obama’s listening to Wright’s racist, leftist rants for 17 years? That appears to be what you’re saying. And what part of Rev. Falwell’s defense of Biblical morality do you find hateful, by the way?

Over on CNN, in a rant that is less surprising than Gerson’s remark, commentator Jack Cafferty played the bigot card on March 17, as reported by Newsbusters.org:

How is this different than John McCain chasing after Pat Robertson or the late Reverend Jerry Falwell, who talk about how we have a culture of murdering unborn children in this country and that we've turned into Sodom because we coddled the gay community in this country? I mean, to me, that stuff is considerably more offensive than decrying racial violence and intolerance in this country, which members of the black community have some firsthand knowledge of.

Gerson and Cafferty are not alone in using crude caricatures of Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson. Maybe this is some folks’ way of appearing more enlightened than the knuckle-draggers who still defend sexual morality. Similar cheap shots have surfaced in far more conservative venues than The Washington Post.

The next time you see this happen, just shake your head and say, “Yup. It’s another Gersoning.”

If it happens on TV, you can say, “Yup. That person’s being Caffertyed.

Or, if you prefer:

“It’s another high-tech Gersoning.”

On second thought, forget it. I never did like name calling, just accurate descriptions.

As a Christian who also errs, I don’t think Mr. Gerson or Mr. Cafferty are beyond redemption at all for their stunningly unfair comments about my friend Jerry Falwell.

But they might want to apologize to the Rev. Falwell’s family and to Rev. Robertson and his family, not to mention the Thomas Road congregation, the Liberty University community and to the Rev. Robertson’s many viewers and supporters.

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Robert Knight is a Senior Writer/Correspondent for Coral Ridge Ministries and a Senior Fellow for the American Civil Rights Union.
 
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more stupid christian errs
"All hurricanes are acts of God, because God controls the heavens. I believe that New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God, and they are -- were recipients of the judgment of God for that."
John Hagee

"As a nation, America is under the curse of God."
John Hagee

Seems its not only black 'pastors' that are crazy and should be ignored

You asked for it.
Jerry Falwell in his own words.

God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve.
-- Rev Jerry Falwell, blaming civil libertarians, feminists, homosexuals, and abortion rights supporters for the terrorist attacks of Tuesday, September 11, 2001, to which Rev Pat Robertson agreed, quoted from John F Harris, "God Gave US 'What We Deserve,' Falwell Says," The Washington Post (September 14, 2001)

Explain to me how this is any less anti-American what Wright said?

"I do not believe the homosexual community deserves minority status. One's misbehavior does not qualify him or her for minority status. Blacks, Hispanics, women, etc., are God-ordained minorities who do indeed deserve minority status."
-- Rev Jerry Falwell, USA Today Chat, quoted from The Religious Freedom Coalition, "The Two faces of Jerry Falwell"

You Did Make A Mistake, Mr. Knight
A couple of years ago you made the claim that Japanese anime and manga is virtual child pornography. Well, that's not true. Only about
2-to-5% of it is really considered obscene or pornographic, and most anime fans, like me, don't particularly like that kind anyway. This has been the thing that has bugged me about you since day 1, Mr. Knight.

This is not hateful.
"“[homosexuals are] brute beasts...part of a vile and satanic system [that] will be utterly annihilated, and there will be a celebration in heaven.”
-Jerry Falwell

Oh, yeah. That's not hate speech.

More fun with Jerry Falwell....
"AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals. It is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuality." (Falwell sounds like the creep Fred Phelps of the Westboro Baptist Church here)

"Chritians, like slaves and soldiers, ask no questions."

"If you're not a born-again christian, you're a failure as a human being."

"Textbooks are Soviet propoganda."

"I hope I live to see the day when, as in the early days of our country, we won't have any public schools. The churches will have taken them over again, and Christians will be running them. What a happy day that will be!"

"He is purple - the gay pride color - and his antenna is shaped like a triangle, the gay pride symbol." - Jerry Falwell warning that "Tinky Winky", one of the Teletubbies, may be gay.

illit
John Hagee is a fringe pastor. He does not represent mainstream Evangelical thought, and none of my Evangelical friends take him seriously, other than as a threat to the reputation of the Church.

He is not the trusted spiritual advisor of any presidential candidate I am aware of. He endorsed John McCain, not the other way round.

Speaking damnation
Not one of the controversial quotes made by conservative Evangelicals, however marginal, come close to speaking damnation on people. Nobody can ask for the damnation of anyone, let alone an entire nation, and call himself a Christian.

And for the record, Falwell apologized for many of the remarks he made about homosexuals, and made overtures to the gay community in hopes of improving understanding.

cleverness
Hagee does not seem unique --- do I need to dredge up examples?
'Mainstream' evangelicals seem to have a need to inflict their version of faith upon the rest of us.
The worst part of that 'faith' seems to include the condemnation of others.

My post had nothing to do with McCain - simply, religion (and its champions) should have nothing to do with our SECULAR and CIVIL government - or our elections. A black preacher ranting has no more effect on me than a white preacher ranting - I heard my priest and an idiot nun tell me that my mother was going to hell because she wasn't Catholic, I tuned out that particular bit of crap - my assumption is that Obama tunes out the bits of crap from his pastor - just as we all should.


Rufus
Jerry Falwell was filled with hate. But naturally Robert Knight calls it love, after all he has earned his living as professional gay basher for decades. Falwell's apologies were half heartyed at the best and he never, never once apologized how he sought to hurt people with HIV, how he systematically spread prejudice and hatred and how he celebrated and rejoiced with the idea of gays suffering. Like Knight he dedicated his liofe to causing as much pain and hurt as possible to gay community.

Jerry Falwell was incapable of loving. He was a vicious bigot who was intoxicated with his own importance. Good riddance, I hope he burns slowly where he is.

Even if Falwell was as bad as claimed--
Those here who concentrate on bashing him are willfully and intentionally missing a crucial point: the fact that they are taking a cowardly path of least resistance.

Denouncing Jerry Falwell amid the atmosphere of today's hard-left mass media is about as bold and daring as attending a Communist Party meeting and saying to those present that capitalism is evil. Or as bold and daring as visiting the locker room of the Chicago Bears and saying that the Green Bay Packers are wimps. White men who defend a traditionalist position have already been denounced over and over and over and over, far beyond what is needed or deserved...while GENUINE hate-filled bigots like Jeremiah Wright get a free ride.

This is the kind of thing C.S. Lewis was talking about when he wrote of people "rushing about with fire extinguishers when there is a flood, and crowding to that side of the boat which is already nearly gunwale under."

The Real Falwell
For a real look into the man's heart and motives, get a copy of the old out of print book Church Aflame. (1970: Impact Books Nashville) In it, Falwell and Dr. Elmer Towns (Mr. Sunday School) tell the story of Falwell's conversion to a self sacrificing/ all for the Gospel level of faith, followed by the founding and phenominal growth of Thomas Road Baptist church in a medium-small city.

Illit and Post Holer (and others) do not know the heart of the man about whom they so glibly pontificate. He was driven by a thirst to see as many people get into the Kingdom of God as possible.

-All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23) -There is none righteous, no not one. (Romans 3:10) Unless a man is born again, he cannot enter the Kingdom of God. (John 3:3) If you confess with your mouth, the Lord Jesus Christ,(submit to Him as Lord) and believe in your heart (your inner self)that God has raised Him from the dead, you shall be saved! (Romans 10:9-10)Repent, every one of you! (Peter in Acts Cahpter 2, to the crowd, concerning how to get right with God.)

As for why Falwell hammered home this message decade after decade: (Go into all the World and PREACH THE GOSPEL TO ALL CREATION...)


The Real Falwell Conclusion
(I accidently hit the post button early)
Last quote above is from Matthew Chapter 28

Jerry Falwell was intent upon preaching the Gospel to everyone, under orders from Jesus Christ in Matthew 28, Mark 16, etc.

It is no more hate to tell someone to repent of sin, than it is hate to wake them up and disturb their comfortable sleep if their house is on fire!

Jesus warned that in the last days, teachers who "tickle people's itching ears" would be popular, while those who remain true to God's standards would be hated and vilified. We certainly seem to have come to such a time, when "good is called evil, and evil is called good".

Hate the Sin, Love the Sinner
Falwell, in his own way preached this concept and was punished for it on a daily basis. The Bible still teaches that sodomy is a vile act of violence that is an affront to God. Yet, the sodomite is no different from the adulterer, thief, or blasphemer. All people are in need of redemption.

Falwell's eschatology was no different thant say William Jennings Byrant or Billy Gramm. What has changed is not God, but society. The Evangelicals, perhaps tired of the relentless kulturkampf, are now turning to New Age therapies, while over the last 60 years homosexuals with a taste for teen boys infiltrated many of the Catholic seminaries and rectories. The True and the Good have been stood at thier heads. Falwell's eschatology was heightened to a point of over reaction as he saw a world gone crazy. Even Pope Benedeict XVI, a normally euridite man, warned about a filth that has invaded The Church.

We can laugh at him all we want in order to feel superior. That at least prevents us from looking in the mirror.

Desperate Obama fanatics
In an attempt to even out the onslaught of Rev. Wrights comments, I've seen so many pundits and Al Sharpton attempt to compare Obama sitting under Wright to McCain accepting support from Hagee and Rod Parsley attempting to make it an equivalence.

It is not.

Certainly Jerry Falwell has made some stupid comments, enough to make me cringe, and I'm a Christian. Certainly Jerry Falwell sought the limelight. Certainly Jerry Falwell was far from being a perfect being - which is why we need a Savior. Certainly there is going to be some things that Parsley and Hagee have said that can be painted - especially by the far left - as hateful.

But accepting support from a preacher whom you probably don't know well at all versus Obama sitting under Wright, not just as a Pastor but as a 20 year mentor, confidant and friend is night and day.

Anyone attempting to make those kinds of comparisons is simply desperate to save Obama from himself and his own judgment.

Funny
The funniest part of the column was Knight's expressing outrage that Wright would be so conspiracy minded (which does seem to be the most damaging aspect of his preaching) and then citing the silly right wing conspiracy that planned parenthood is attempting a black genocide. I am not sure whether Knight meant that as a joke or is simply clueless. Does anyone else know?

Was Knight parodying the silly charge that Planned Parenthood is driven by a hatred of blacks, or does he really not recognize that as the kind of ludicrous conspiracy theory that he is attacking in the paragraph?

what Christianity means
"Blessed are the peacemakers"

Did Falwell ever once champion diplomacy over military conflict?

"You can't serve God and money." "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a wealthy man to enter the kingdom of heaven."

Did Falwell ever once criticize US materialism and champion the poor?

"He who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultary."

Did Falwell ever once attempt to make marriage illegal for divorced people?

a catholic appraisal
You may not know me; I've carried on a torrid inter-faith repartee here in TH on another thread; with a number of avid born again anti-catholics.

My appraisal of Falwell and Robertson is short of an ecumenical love-fest; to me they were laboring in the wrong fields of the Lord. But so what ?

These preachers represented millions of truly devout and uncompromised believers in God; and they loved God ardently. Note I can't concede to their (hard-earned) titles, "evangelists"-- how can I ? I believe with all my heart that both Falwell & Robertson-- together with the disgraceful Rev. Wright and characters like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, et al-- are plain anti-catholics dedicated to opposing Catholic faith. I truly believe they all love Jesus Christ. Nobody can convince me they don't. Yet they're sinners like me.

They do in truth love God. It's as plain as a wart on Gerson's nose. Or the evil lurking in the heart of a Jack Cafferty. Falwell will definitely be in heaven side-by side with Mother Theresa and Pope John Paul the Great; as will be Rev. Robertson. They are all saints in God's sight; they preached LOVE. They preached Jesus Christ in the best way they knew. From the Bible. They NEVER preached hatred.

Those who denigrate these fine men will have some desperate explaining to do at the judgment seat of Christ. (I'll have mine to do; as will many of my Catholic brethren.) But as Thomas More said, on his way to the axeman:

"We shall soon make merry together at the banquet table of the Lord," He was speaking to the sycophants of Henry VIII, about to cut off his head. (Thomas More, a Catholic saint.) If we only learn to love God; we will love our neighbor all the easier.



Falwell
Jerry Falwell was a fallible human being, but he preached the Gospel and loved sinners. He did not spew hatred and anti-American rhetoric. I, too, was offended at Gerson's cheap shot. Falwell was an intelligent defender of Truth in a variety of arenas and was unfailingly courteous and respectful of those who disagreed with him. Some of his harshest opponents respected him as a person and as worthy opposition. Interestingly, some of the most moving tributes at his death came from those who disagreed with his theology and values-based beliefs; they respected the man and his firm adherence to Judeo-Christian values as well as his carefully articulated defense of those values.

Debate
This type of exchange is long overdue. Injustice is wrong whether it targets a minority or an individual. Fairness is the right of ANYBODY. Pastors and ministers are to be corrected, rebuked and encouraged by their elders (overseers), priests by their bishops. When this Godly order is not active, all hell breaks loose. Sin within the body of the Church, when brought by two or three witnesses, is to be censored by the Church. The individual is to be turned over to Satan for the sinful nature to be destroyed. Then, if they repent, they are to be lovingly restored, but NOT reinstated to their former office if they had a place of authority. Just to be back in the beloved and forgiven should be reconciliation enough.

Thoughtless, discourteous, disrespectful words are plentiful from within and without the Church. Very little Godly wisdom is expounded. Wonder why? Christians either have little time to pray, don't know how to pray, pray gi'me prayers, or the poor me/blame everyone else (the Devil!). We can't even stay out of the Mall on Sunday.

Seeking the power of God, the meaning of love for one another, the discipline of obedience is a life long goal. When we are unable to speak the truth in love, we have crucified Jesus Christ anew. A harsh word stirs up anger and when words are many, sin is not absent. The tongue is a small part of the body, but it makes great boasts. When the Holy Spirit has authority over a believer, the living water of God's love will overflow and people will be inspired to know Jesus.

But then, selfcontrol is way too boring.

Shalom

Quit it, right now


Robert E Lee writes: Friday, March, 21, 2008 11:13 AM
A conservative first and formost is pro-life
==========

Would you Johnny-one-notes please quit spreading such crap.

That is in no way, true for a thinking conservative, only the ones who have no idea what they are talking about.

Now please, I don’t want to start a discussion on abortion, but it is just so disgusting to hear such crap, from someone who has self-elected themselves the describer.

No comparison
The difference between Wright on the one side, and Revs. Falwell and Hagee on the other, is simple, but I suspect that it is very difficult for unbelievers to see.

Wright hates white people and hates America. This is the foundation of his theology. See Wright's "talking points" at http://www.tucc.org, and then research the outrageous "black liberation theology" of James Cone, whom Wright follows. It is nothing less than a call for holy war against whites.

Revs. Falwell and Hagee don't hate people, they hate sin. So does God, according to the Bible.

Notice also that Rev. Hagee doesn't ASK God to damn America, as Wright did repeatedly. He simply pointed out that a sin-scarred nation (and world) are under the curse of God. Again, this is entirely Biblical.

I agree that it's excessive to claim that 9/11, Hurricane Katrina, or other disasters are divine judgments on America. They may be, as our nation has been increasing tolerating and even promoting behavior recognized as deviant for centuries. But sometimes bad things happen for reasons we don't understand, and sometimes God even has a plan to bring good out of them (like the story of Joseph or, more to the point on this holiest of days, the Crucifixion).

To The7Sticks
I dont know anything about Jerry Falwell, but if this author claims that anime is porn then he needs to do more research on the topics he writes about. Im curious to know what some of your favs are sticks. I too am a big time fan of anime and am currently watching through the Bleach series.

By the way i am a christian that doesnt go to church as much as he should, but can open the good book for self study when i do miss it. And in reguards to the topic, yes wright is a racist. =)

the real difference
The difference between Wright on the one hand and Falwell and Robertson on the other is not whether they are critical of America or preachers of the Gospel. It lies in what they take the focus of the Gospels to be and so what they are critical about.

Falwell and Robertson are critical of America for tolerating homosexuality and feminism. Wright is critical of America for its treatment of the disadvantaged and its resort to violence. Obviously everyone can read the Gospels for themselves to see who is doing a better job of reflecting them.

Re: Moral equivalence
"Explain to me how this is any less anti-American what Wright said?"

He didn't blame white American's ills on Black gays or Black abrtionists. He believed that America's immorality was "equal opportunity" sin - there was more than enough of it to go around.

BTW, Obama did not specify in his great "Unity Speech" which of his spiritual mentor's sermons he found to bigoted and controsversial. Seeing how Rev. Wright looked upon homosexuality and abortion I imagine that was what the racist Senator from Illinois was referring to.

Re: Moral equivalence
"Wright is critical of America for its treatment of the disadvantaged and its resort to violence."

You can take all the wrongful deaths of blacks from the trans-Atlantic slave trade through the last black criminal shot by an errant white policeman and it wouldn't add up to a fifth of the black babies murdered by abortion. BTW, most violence in America in the last 50 years can be attributed to black on black crime, a fact that Barack Hussein Obama's spiritual mentor doesn't want to recognized, preferring instead to condemn innocent white Americans.

Gerson Is No Conservative
Gerson is the RINO who came up with that lame term, "compassionate conservative", if I'm not mistaken. With friends like these...

dear GG AZ
I've never watched his shows,

But I understand Hagee has vehemently asserted the Catholic Church is the Whore of Babylon. Are you in agreement with him ?

Don't reply if it's unimportant to you. It sure is to me.

It's really heartening to see the low
comment turnout here on this Falwell thread. Conservatives (the large majority) are not willing to defend Jerry Falwell & that's a healthy thing.

He's dead. He brought a fair amount of embarrassment & dishonor to conservatives, and it's time to move on.

kapahulu
Yeah, we sure don't want to be identified with the horrible term 'compassionate'. Better it were mean, harsh, cold-hearted and cruel.

religion
The similarities between Wright and Falwell are that they used religion as a political tool. Religion should be left for Sunday mornings and not be brought into the political arena.
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