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Friday, December 14, 2007
Rich Tucker :: Townhall.com Columnist
Lead in Toys: Should Government Metal?
by Rich Tucker
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’Tis the season -- to worry about lead.

Yes, the big story from coast-to-coast this Christmas seems to be about the danger of heavy metal, and we don’t mean the Twisted Sister Christmas album. Lead is in our toys and on our lights, and we’re told only one thing can do solve the problem: More government intervention in the economy.

For example, at a recent Democratic debate in Iowa, the candidates insisted our country is under siege. China is “sending dangerous toys into the United States,” former Sen. John Edwards charged, and the Bush administration hasn’t done anything about it. “As president, I would end -- flat, bang, no importation of those toys,” Sen. Joe Biden added. Sen. Barack Obama agreed. “I would say toys cannot come in.”

Finally, Sen. Chris Dodd made it clear he wasn’t going to be rhetorically outdone. “When we got word that they were sending toys over here with lead paint in them,” he added, “the president had the authority immediately to suspend importation. He wouldn’t do it. Had that been a U.S. corporation doing that, their doors would have been shut in 20 minutes.”

Dodd has stumbled over the truth here, but to paraphrase Winston Churchill, he managed to pick himself up and continue on anyway, with a typical pander to Iowans (he vowed to buy only toys made in their state). The truth is that when a corporation, American or not, sells a dangerous product, it is quickly punished. Not by the government, which can take months to act. By the market.

Consider the food industry. You’ve probably never heard of the Topps Meat Company, and you’ll never have another chance to sample its products. Back in September the company was forced to recall more than 20 million pounds of meat after it sickened some 40 people. Six days after the recall started, Topps went out of business.

“In one week we have gone from the largest U.S. manufacturer of frozen hamburgers to a company that cannot overcome the economic reality of a recall this large,” the company’s COO explained. The Department of Agriculture also announced it would step up its inspections of the meat industry, but that’s like locking the barn door after the cow’s already been turned into hamburger.

No government inspection regime will work as effectively or as efficiently as the market pressure that shut down Topps. Rest assured other companies, worried about going out of business too, improved their inspection process long before Uncle Sam even managed to hire the new meat inspectors.

Returning to the subject of lead, it’s worth noting that the metal isn’t confined to our toys. “The sparkle of Christmas lights may be toxic. There’s lead on the wiring that millions of Americans string up in their home and medical experts warn that lead can be dangerous, especially to children,” reporter Greg Hunter warned recently on CNN.

A few weeks earlier, anchor Kiran Chetry had announced, “There is concern that the tree itself might be toxic or the lights or the wreath that you hang on your door.” Chetry went on to interview a woman from Florida who’d purchased a Christmas wreath that contained lead.

“I would like to see these warning labels on products outside of California. I, as a consumer, want to know,” customer Ana Elm, the woman who bought the leaden wreath, told Chetry. But that statement goes over like, well, a lead balloon.

There’s already a government warning for all these “dangerous” products. Chetry noted there was a warning “on the back of this box.” Meanwhile, “I couldn’t find a box out there without this warning that said ‘contains lead, wash your hands after use.’” Hunter reported in his story about Christmas lights. The problem is there are already too many government-mandated warning on products. That’s why so few of us bother to read the labels anyway.

And when it comes to assigning blame, we need to point the finger at ourselves. As reporter Hunter admitted, it’s not the Chinese who’re designing these products. “American companies are writing the specs,” he noted. So even if the product had been made in Iowa, it would have contained lead.

Too many people want the federal government to protect us from Chinese imports, when in reality our market is big enough to protect itself. Still, if lawmakers do succeed in cracking down on trade with China, they’ll be ensuring that we’ll have fewer toys for Americans to buy, and they’ll cost more.

That includes plenty of adult toys, such as inexpensive HDTVs, iPods and computers. Free trade has allowed Americans to buy these devices for prices so low they’d have been inconceivable just a couple of years ago.

So enjoy your new high-tech gadgets this Christmas. They may become far more expensive in the New Year.

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100% safe for unsupervised toddlers
The coming standard is going to be that nothing whatever can exist unless it is 100% safe for an unsupervised toddler, even if he eats it.

His mommy, of course, is far too busy to supervise him; she is out screaming NO NO! at adults and slapping legal products out of their hands.

Life is filled with risks. Adapt or die.

AudiR10
Great post AudiR10, you took the thought right out of my head.

It's amazing that we've become a country filled with such hypochondria. It seems there's always some new crisis we should all be worried about.

Consumers will make the ultimate decision in what's safe and what's not safe, no matter what government does. Government just hurts our economy with it's meddling.

Happy Holidays everyone!

Ban this
I'm thinking that the government should ban any product that is made with molecules, since there have been studies that prove certain molecules can be harmful to humans. Ban them all just in case. That should take care of the problem.

Lead paint
Most of us Baby Boomers slept in cribs painted with lead-based paint. Think how many of us there would be if this had not been true! Only 79,000,000 survived!

Wait a minute… let’s get realistic!
“100% safe for unsupervised toddlers.”

First of all, if you know ANYTHING at all about toddlers, you should know that they put almost anything in their mouth, supervised or not! So let’s separate toys that are not age appropriate from those toys that ARE age appropriate.

I see nothing wrong with the government mandating that all imported products HAVE TO MEET the same standards required by domestic companies. And, I see nothing wrong with the domestic companies that import foreign products to be held liable if they import unsafe products, for children or adults.

Not all mommies are too busy to supervise their children, so let’s not go overboard on that.

Audi, you sound like the old aunt who never had any children, but believe you’re an expert on raising children.


Agree with Anne
Toys for small children are going to end up in their mouths. It has nothing to do with the quality of parenting.

Companies shouldn't be able to get around U.S. product safety laws just because they've moved production overseas.

It isn't just toys, either. Have you noticed how many dishes, coffee mugs, etc. are made in China? You have to wonder how many of them contain lead.


Unfair Trade
My point is, if all of these safety rules can be ignored by the Communist Chinese, then American manufacturers should be allowed to follow the same lax standards.

I, like many of the posters here, grew up around lead paint, and even made relief maps out of asbestos, without ill effects, and think the nanny state is out of control.

It is very frustrating that the over-regulation of American business are costing us manufacturing jobs, while China and India are the world's biggest polluters. They make things in the cheapest way possible, and that is why their products are so cheap.

It is for this reason I think these third world countries should be held to the same high standards American businesses are, and that includes safety as well as environmental. Either that, or we need to relax standards here in the USA

Why do we even have a government if they are not going to place a priority on the American economy over that of the international community?

Anne
In point of fact I was reared by parents who believed that rather than babyproofing the world, they would worldproof the babies. Mama raised five girls to understand IF IT IS NOT YOURS, DO NOT TOUCH IT. So the idea of children chewing on Christmas wreaths and such never occurred. And actually I brought up two fine boys by the same rules, and now that they are twenty-somethings they never chew on Christmas wreaths, drink bug spray, or sniff asbestos because their mother taught them to keep their hands off things that did not belong to them.

The vast majority of the hysterical Marching Mommies (of both genders) do not supervise their children in any meaningful way; they are too busy trying to babyproof the planet. I actually have a friend with twin three-year-olds who goes in the other sorry direction -- she plans to hire a lawyer and force the school to distribute a form to all parents and force them to sign it and turn it in under penalty of law, agreeing not to put any of a list of items in their childs lunch pail so that her darlings will not be exposed to white sugar (*WHITE DEATH!*) or trans fats, among many other things. She also intends to attend school WITH them and sit in the classroom every day.

Those are the women who think the world should be 100% safe for children who should never be taught to protect themselves or learn the consequences of not doing so.

More tempests in teapots
Oh, yes, please, Santa, give me more government regulations to protect me from the evil world.

Santa, I'm too inept and stupid to look out for my own health and welfare, so I need my beloved Big Brother to save me.

And, Santa, please let Hillary be elected president in 2008 so she can save me from the evil Chinese who finance her campaign.

Finally, Santa, please put lumps of coal in the oil companies stockings for making obscene profits for Bush and Cheney. And throw some lead in there, too, because they caused Katrina and global warming.




Chinese parents favor foreign-brand toys
What does this tell you about China?

China - When freelance writer Wang Jian shops for toys for her 5-year-old son, she’s happy to pay extra for Legos blocks and Japanese-brand train sets.

The reason, she and other parents say: Foreign brands enjoy a reputation for higher quality — a perception reinforced by the product scares of recent months.

“We pay close attention to the news about toy and food safety. If I find a problem with a certain brand, I will just stop using it for sure,” said Wang, who writes for film magazines

READ MORE

http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/chinese-parents-fa vor-foreign-brand-toys


If the "studies" that say lead
causes IQ loss are like most "studies" they are bogus and the entire thing is a scam.

Someone mentioned the specs

It is my understanding that the specs being given to the Chinese sub-contractors by American companies were being blatently ignored to save money. THAT is a problem.

It is a crying shame that our government has destroyed American businesses the way they have. It's government that got us into this Chinese sh!t hole!!

As far as Democrats go, they have picked a winner with this one. If their nominee makes this an issue, I think it will win them quite a few votes. Every now and then they get it right on when to pander.

AudiR10: “worldproof the babies?”
Clearly your “friend” sounds more like a psycho mother; not typical of most mothers, thank goodness!

But that has nothing to do with what this thread is about.

You probably don’t realize that toddlers drool! And their little hand sweat! Which means the lead in “age appropriate TOYS” can easily be ingested by NORMAL play!

THAT is what this is about!

And they don’t always immediately comprehend concepts… such as “don’t touch.” If you really think that a 7-8month old child who is crawling around, or maybe walking really gets the “don’t touch” and remembers it when they're curious about everything, you have no clue.

I do believe in “world proofing” children, AND I’m not happy about the government getting too involved in our lives. BUT there are times, such as this, that even large corporations should work with the government to keep our children as safe as possible.




Vic: Not sure about that...

But there were a few toys that contained a chemical that turns into a powerful “date rape” drug.

That's just unacceptable!




Anne
As I said, if those studies were like most they are bogus. Think back when lead paint was banned. it was 1978 when we had a heavy Lamocrat congress and Jimmy Carter. Everyone knows about heavy metal poisoning but that takes heavy doses. This thing with children was very small doses and when it was presented it was presented as a "racial issue". We all know how conducive racial issues are to well tho0ught out "studies".

Vic: Rats! Should have known better!

What is it now...?

Vic. 254
Anne. 2

Geesh!



Time for Some Common Sense
Time for some common sense here.

First, kids' toys end up in their mouths. This is not a possibility, its a certainty. Kids toys, of course, must not contain toxic materials. Duh!

Second, adult products such as Christmas lights and wreathes ARE NOT KIDS' TOYS. The wreath does not belong within a toddler's reach and a clever toddler who stands on his toy truck in order to reach it needs to have "No touch!" reinforced with a hand slap. As for the lights, if they are in the child's mouth the danger of electrocution is considerably more urgent than any danger of lead poisoning.

Third, products imported into the US should meet the same standards required of products manufactured in the US. That this even has to be said demonstrates the complete absence of good sense and basic logic in our society.

We'd be a lot better off as a society if we applied common sense, a sense of perspective, and a sense of responsibility to our individual and collective actions.

Anne, LOL
Are you still keeping score? I may not be right on this one, I just don't view these as necessaily gospel.

Anyway, I have to go now. I am actaully doing this today from a motel in GA. Take care.

Mother of 4: EXACTLY RIGHT!

It's been quite humorous watching my daughter as she's gained vast amounts of "common sense" about raising children since she's had her own.

Over the past four years she's gained a lot of perspective about a lot of things.

There is a lot of wisdom in common sense, and a lot of common sense in wisdom, much of which one only gains through experience!








lead and meat
completely appropriate areas for government regulation.

Moderate Mark
Since I grew up in a Leftie household, I KNOW who those "consumers" were: The people who were anit-consumerism activists. In other words, Lefties.

Yes my friend, Big Brother is a Leftie.

Imports and the economy
If Globalism is not hurting the economy, then would someone please explain why the American Dollar is dropping like a rock?

This is NBD to wealthy jet-setting globalists who have investments and capital all over the globe: "Let the dollar become worthless: I have a zillion euros in a swiss bank!"

But we have a government that was elected by the American people. They are SUPPOSED to be on our side and represent our interests.

This is why it is such a crime that the McCain/Feingold fixed it so that only Zillionaires can run for national office anymore.

We are represented by a bunch of Ivory Tower Elites for whom the devaluation of the dollar is meaningless, and the loss of good jobs overseas is NBD.

ModerateMark
Small children are not permitted to handle electric wires and breakable glass.

Older children who help with such chores will, inevitably, go to the bathroom when finished with the task because it takes a certain amount of time and will, of course, wash their hands.

Again, apply some sense to the question and you'll find that there are many more important things in the world to worry about.

Obsessing over trivialities is not the course of wisdom because it takes attention from areas where concern is truly justified.

Do the numbers...
"If Globalism is not hurting the economy, then would someone please explain why the American Dollar is dropping like a rock?"

The bad news is that in a frictionless, global economy salaries for identical work asymptotically approach a world average.

The good news is that product costs do the same thing.

The reason that the American dollar is plummeting is that big chunks of the American economy are extremely inefficient. If you want to see which parts, look no further that places in our economy where the way things are done is locked down with loads and loads of rules. Think about medicine, education, legal services, banking. Think about every civil service job at any level in government. Think about housing, automobiles, energy and transportation.

You can see very quickly where the problems are when you find products and services increasing in price significantly faster than inflation. Look at your kids' college tuition, for instance. See what a car costs you, or a house. Look at your doctors' bills and better yet, what your last hospital stay cost.

The squealing about globalisation being bad inevitably comes from people who are feeling the pinch of inefficient sectors of the US economy.

The problem you're having is NOT coming from those Chinese consumers' items you've bought, it's coming from those people right here living with who are so comfortable with the way they do things that they don't think that they ought to improve their own productivity.

There are a bunch of them.

Mother of Four
Remember when housing that had lead paint in it had to be removed in the chance that a hungry infant or child would lick or eat the paint? Why did they implement thid law? Because lead paint causes mental retardation. Itt doesn't take a lot to begin to have some affect. As a mother of 4, I think you wouldn't want to take a chance in reducing your children's IQ so that they could make the best of their lives. Just incase you didn't already know...

Jeanne-marie
I grew up in a house that was 100 years old and undoubtedly had lead paint. There wasn't a single tooth mark on the windowsills from my sister and I or from any of the dozens of children who's been raised there.

If you bother to read any information on remodeling you'll find that lead paint poses no dangers until its disturbed. Covered with a sealing layer of modern primer with modern, latex paint over that it poses no danger to a modern child.

I currently live in a house just barely old enough that the bottom layers of paint may or may not contain lead. When remodeling we take simple precautions to confine any dust we may generate then take the simple and effective measure of wet-cleaning the area where dust was deposited.

A properly fed and supervised child does not chew windowsills and lick walls. A properly maintained house, even an old one, does not present any lead danger that justifies the kind of hysteria you're referring to.

The answer to the problem of improperly fed and improperly supervised children is better feeding and better supervision. The answer to the problem of ill-maintained housing is to either get off your rear end and do some maintenance or to move to a better place. And there is ALWAYS a better place for someone who is willing to do what it takes to get there.

Again:

Common SENSE,
A SENSE of proportion,
A SENSE of responsibility,
Add up to SENSIBLE policies and SENSIBLE actions.

ModerateMark
Maintain it properly and it doesn't deteriorate that way. Keep the place properly clean -- especially anywhere that you're going to allow a small child to be.

Again, a little common sense goes a long way and the actual level of the hazard doesn't justify the hyperventilating hysteria.

To Liberty Dave
True, market that sells bad products in the United States will be punished when consumers stop buying its products. Just yesterday I voluntarily paid twice the price for American-caught shrimp rather than buy Asian shrimp (farmed where acquaculture is conducted in filthy water full of drugs). The only problem is that before such market resistance takes over, it often happens that people get sick---many cases of e coli or similar is the tipoff that something is wrong with the food. Sometimes people die. If you say, "No government regulation" then you are saying that it's not important if people get sick or die before something changes. As an American consumer, I very much prefer to feel safe about the products I buy, and properly enforced regulatory law provides that safety.

regs within reason
everyone was taught not to put stuff in their mouth. what about pacifiers, should we ensure that there are no dangerous chemicals/elements that can be ingested?

what about teething rings??

i agree that there are a lot of things that children need to be taught not to put into their mouths, but there are a lot of toys that are designed for toddlers and children that will end up in a child's mouth.

about Topps ...
the big scare of 40 people getting sick out of millions of pounds of ground beef. instead of panicking the public, why not tell them to cook the meat thoroughly before consuming it.

that would have solved the problem.

instead, we panicked the public and forced a company to go out of business.

what a weak society we have become:

we fear global warming, but we think that giving the terrorists a hug and "understanding" them will make the threat go away.

we have turned the 90 lb weakling into the poster child of ideal health with our stupid obsession on obesity. 66% of adults are overweight or obese. guess the percentage of professional athletes that fall into that category?


Lead paint tastes good
Lead tastes sweet; the Romans put it in bad wine to sweeten it. That's why kids ate it, not because they're malnourished. Paint peels, baby finds a chip, stuffs it in his mouth as they do with everything, and finds it's yummy.

for Uriah01007
Uriah01007 writes: "Lead tastes sweet; the Romans put it in bad wine to sweeten it. That's why kids ate it, not because they're malnourished. Paint peels, baby finds a chip, stuffs it in his mouth as they do with everything, and finds it's yummy."

Correct.
As a conservative, I'm all for adults taking personal responsibility for their lives rather than being watched over by the government.

But in this case we're talking about YOUNG CHILDREN. You can't expect a young child to take responsibility like an adult can.

And a mom can't be watching her kids 24 hours a day, nor can she expect young children to behave responsibly 100% of the time. That's why all products made for us by children are child-proofed to be safe.

Physicians will tell parents: Don't just lecture your young children that household chemicals are dangerous. Take those chemicals away from where your kids can get at them.

for AudiR10
AudiR10 says: "In point of fact I was reared by parents who believed that rather than babyproofing the world, they would worldproof the babies. Mama raised five girls to understand IF IT IS NOT YOURS, DO NOT TOUCH IT."

I see! Hey, remember last year when some of the dog food from China turned out to be contaminated?

I'll bet you also instructed your dogs not to eat anything from China, right? And your dog said, "Woof! Yes, Master!"

Do you understand that dogs and children can't be expected to behave responsibly regardless of how many times you instruct them and lecture them?

Must be a lousy parent
SteveL wrote: "Do you understand that dogs and children can't be expected to behave responsibly regardless of how many times you instruct them and lecture them?"

A) You're 100% wrong. Yes, children are not adults, but they CAN and frequently ARE trained to behave in certain, socially acceptable ways by parents who know what they're doing. The children of these parents are happier than yours, more imaginative than yours, and a pleasure to be around.

B) If I knew who you were, you would NEVER watch my children. What's more, your children would never play with my children. Your kids are probably destructive brats. You probably think they're completely normal.

C) I used to see parents like you come into my retail store, back when I managed retail. Your kids left the store in a disaster. You stood there with a sheepish grin on your lame face, knowing your kids were out of control. I could have taught you how to change that in 5 minutes, but if I'd tried, you'd have huffed "How DARE you tell me how to raise my kids?"

It's actually not hard at all to manage children and train them to avoid serious danger. What it takes is genuine love -- the kind that doesn't shrink from doing what is required -- and a willingness to ignore "experts" and do what successful parents have done for centuries. People like you will never do it, 'cause you love yourself WAY more than you love your kids.

Thanks for your role in demolishing Western civilization, SteveL. You're doing a great job.

Sam
Due to a holiday season family visit I have had an unusual amount of recent exposure to seafood so I can provide current data:
1) On Thursday I bought wild-caught US-caught shrimp @ $9.99 lb. I could have bought shrimp from Thailand or China for $5.99 lb..
2) On Saturday at an upscale restaurant the menu informed us that the shrimp was US-caught.
3) On Sunday (today) at another nice restaurant a board at the door informed us that the scallops were wild-caught on Nantucket Island.

American seafood IS available. It is not the cheapest. Each of us has to decide what's important. I no longer buy or order Asian seafood. I don't mean my "personal boycott" as a political statement---I am just too grossed out by reports (with pictures) of what goes on in Asian aquaculture. BTW the New York Times had a huge article on this the other day, but this isn't the first time US media have provided the information. China freely admits that it grew too much too fast and ignored food safety for the sake of profit. The water in which fish are grown is very contaminated, then heavy doses of drugs are used to keep the fish alive at all. The Chinese now see the reason for government regulation and for enforcing any existing regulation. Would that we did.

Immediate contradiction
lilly provides us with an in-line contradiction, and illustrates her knee-jerk anti-US hatred.

She explains to us why she buys US seafood instead of Asian seafood, because Asian agriculture is disgusting. Then she says:

"The Chinese now see the reason for government regulation and for enforcing any existing regulation. Would that we did."

Clearly, whatever it is we do, it's sufficient to produce acceptable seafood. But Lilly will never miss an opportunity to say "The US is stupid," so she goes for the cheap shot -- even while demonstrating that she KNOWS our seafood is safe.

Liberalism: reliable in its dismissal of the best.

(Unrelated to this thread, please read my political blog, "Plumb Bob: Squaring the Culture" at http://www.plumbbobblog.com. Thanks.)
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