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Saturday, September 09, 2006
Rich Tucker :: Townhall.com Columnist
Mission accomplished
by Rich Tucker
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No matter what the problem, lawmakers in Washington think they’ve got the solution: Spend money on it.

This trend shows up in the debate over illegal immigration. The House of Representatives and the Senate have come up with very different proposals to combat the problem, but the competing bills have at least one thing in common. Under either measure, the federal government would hire, train and deploy thousands of border patrol agents in years to come.

That would be expensive and, ultimately, wasteful.

A new paper from The Heritage Foundation estimates that “the total cost of a new Border Patrol agent is around $189,000.” That’s partially because there’s a lot of waste in the process. Almost 20 percent of those who enter the border patrol’s academy wash out, so to fill 6,000 slots, the government would need to bring almost 8,000 trainees into the school. And because only about 1 out of every 30 applicants actually completes training, “meeting the president’s goal would require about 180,000 applications in the next two years,” the paper reports.

There are other problems, of course. If the government manages to find, hire and train 6,000 new agents, they’ll become a permanent feature on the landscape. Even if illegal immigration becomes less important in years to come (as we certainly hope it will), taxpayers will be paying for these agents until they retire.

Luckily, there’s a better way to eliminate illegal immigration. Instead of simply hiring new agents, the government should use a layered approach. By getting state and local law enforcement agencies, volunteers, contractors and the National Guard involved, the government can get started right away and make significant steps toward closing our southern border to illegal immigration.

We know this layered approach will work, because it’s already working.

An e-mailer who's been working with a group of border observers for more than a year recently wrote to declare that “the border is secure.” Not the entire frontier, of course. But, he writes, his team has helped “shut down approximately five miles (2 percent) of the California border. It obviously can be done.”

How? Teamwork.

Volunteers -- regular American citizens concerned about protecting their country -- got the ball rolling. They started by reinforcing fencing along the border. “We added 20 and 50 foot sections, reinforced weak spots, immediately repaired holes, until we now have a solid secondary barrier over 2,000 yards long,” my correspondent writes.

The new fencing channels illegals into areas where they can be easily spotted and apprehended by the Border Patrol and the National Guard. Because, along with the volunteers, these federal agents are critical to ending illegal immigration. And now they’re on the scene.

The Guard “is now doing reconnaissance and reporting crossings on a 24/7/365 basis. That's right, they're out there NON-STOP (no twice-daily 2-hour shift change gaps in coverage) every day including weekends, and have been informed and told us they'll be pulling this duty around the clock until at least 2008.”

That’s also critical, because this isn’t a problem that will go away overnight (although it will go away). We need to make any potential illegals understand that we’re serious about stopping them -- not simply today but next month and next year, too. That way, more people will decide to stay put in Mexico instead of making a run for the border.

At the same time, we should be getting the states more involved. “Authorities along the border are often the first to witness immigration violations and [are] in the best position to stop illegal immigrants who are trying to enter the United States,” the Heritage paper notes. There’s already a provision -- Section 287(g) of the Immigration and Nationality Act -- that allows local law-enforcement groups to work with federal forces. We simply need to move faster to ensure they’re involved.

And, in order to get more agents on the border quickly, Washington should consider hiring local security companies. That will get human resources in place quickly, without forcing the federal government to spend years recruiting and training thousands of agents.

The border can be secured, without breaking the bank.

My correspondent says his region in California now sports “a double-fence, covered by vigorous patrols and observation, taking advantage of strong citizen involvement, and augmented by deployment of federal troops with state-of-the-art thermal-imaging observation equipment, to assist the vigorous border enforcement by the Border Patrol.”

It’s taken a year, but “together, with teamwork, we've shut this zone down,” he writes.

California’s a bellwether state. Since this layered approach is working there, we know it’ll work elsewhere. Simply sealing the border won’t solve the problem of illegal immigration, but it’s a critical start. It’s time for lawmakers to make it happen.

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Tucker & Border Security
The other law that is needed would go something like this: No organization or citizen or goverenment entity in any state, county or municipality which has or will in the future pass an statute or resolution to the effect that their law enforcement officers "are not supposed to do the work of the federal immigration officials", aka "Sanctuary laws" can receive any form of federal assistance--not for hospitals, public schools, police departments--not anything, for 10 YEARS after such law has been rescinded. Conversely, governments which work to make a seamless network between local and federal law enforcement can receive aid that would have gone to entities who have the incredible gall to declare that they are not part of the United States and therfore do not need to help in enforcing our immigration laws. OK, the 10 years W/O federal aid can be relaxed if the people of that governmental entity vote the arrogant traitors out of office, stake them down in the desert with only a canteen of dirty water until they pledge allegiance to the United States of America.

This Ain't Rocket Science.
Folks from the south come here to 1) live better, and 2) send money home so their relatives can live better.
Put a 50% tax on all personal money transfers of amounts less than $10k for anyone not a legal resident.
You want to send five hundred bucks home?
It's going to cost you $250.
Use the tax money to pay for the wall.


What's wrong...
...with hiring more Border Patrol agents? It seems to me that securing the border is part and parcel of national security, so it is one thing that the government is SUPPOSED to spend tax money on.

I would rather see it spent there than on the next space shuttle launch, Medicare benefits, or Congressional pay raise. At least then the money spent would actually be put to a good use!

Illegals
We constantly hear the refrain, "we can't possibly deport them all." Of course not, we've never tried.

Lazlo . . .
gets it.

Illegals are here for the money, not because they love America.

Some people emmigrate to the USA legally because they actually want to live here and become citizens. Illegals sneak across our borders because they love our money (and our money comes to us from the free-market capitalist system).

I like the taxing idea Lazlo espouses. I might also suggest this:

Pass a law that allows illegals to enter the country with impunity and absolves employers from liabilty for hiring them. This law would also make it a major felony to pay those illegals any more than the prevailing wage in the country they came from, while legal immigrants would be paid in accordance with minimum wage law, etc. This would provide an incentive for illegals to do the paperwork and become legal or leave.

Local enforcement
In the university town where I taught which is a community of 20,000 they are constantly arresting illegal aliens. There were about five in the news who were arrested just a couple of days ago and arrests are happening on a regular basis. There are people who always point out how easy it is to get fake drivers liscences and Social Security numbers but that is one way they are catching them by spotting these documents as phonies. They check up on restaurant workers and last year caught five illegals in two different restaurants in raids of the places by police. So most likely it depends on the priorities of the law enforcement in various communities. I imagine in larger urban areas they don't consider it a serious enough crime to concentrate their efforts on. Then there are cases like the one a resident of Demoines Iowa told me about in which a factory owner hires illegals for good jobs that Americans do want but he saves money by withinholding their Social Security and Taxes from their paychecks and then pocketing the money and the local Feds know what he is doing but don't do a thing about it. In that case he should be in prison for felony theft and so should the Feds who let him do for aiding and abetting felony theft.

An effective way of
starving out an invader is to deny them food, fuel and the means to survive. "Scorched Earth" has been deployed in virtually every military campaign going back before the Roman Empire. The process of removing those things that can sustain an invader is quite simple; keep them at arm's length. Deny the illegals jobs by inprisoning the "collaborators", employers.

I'm not suggesting we burn down the Southern states like Sherman on the march to Atlanta (Civil War) but it is the employers who offer the honey that attracts the bees. In this case, worker bees. And make no mistake, we have been invaded. I live in southern CA and I see in our poorer neighborhoods EXACTLY what I saw in the early 1980's while traveling deep into Mexico. Nowadays you only have to peek into Tijuana to see the rot.

I have a lot of pity for the working poor but I have no intention of accepting another countries overcrowded slums and dropping our standard of living to suit some socialists. And I'm past having the generousity to pay for health care for folks who refuse to even learn our language.

First shut down the Border by flooding it with soldiers, ICE, volunteers and whomever can contribute. Train the necessary border agents as you can and retain their services to go after the employers when,as Rich Tucker claims, "things slow down".

But all of this is in vain if we do not immediately re-write the 14th Amendment so that children born in the United States ONLY become automatic citizens if both their parents are already citizens. Children of only one US citizen must go through the naturalization process while their parents are employed here or have returned to their native country. Our hospital delivery rooms need to become "neutral territory" instead of citizen incubaters.










Another approach
I have yet to hear anybody mention one of the major reasons for illegal immigration--the delays and hassle involved in legal immigration. Until it is harder to immigrate illegally than legally, we're going to have massive illegal immigraion. We could absorb more legal immigrants if we could shut down illegal immigration.
Also, we need to ask who else benefits from illegal immigrants? Smugglers, coyotes, mobsters, terrorists, spies, etc.? The next question: who benefits? What sort of political influence do drug lords have that they use to discourage enforcement?
There are a lot of facets to this situation that we do not see mentioned!

another approach (2)
If we could divert the "good" illegals to legal processing, it would free up the appropriate authorities to deal with the bad guys, who are getting lost in the mob as it is.




Social Security
Don't forget there are a lot of politicians that want them here to try and save social security due to the 77 million (over 1/2 the current workforce) that will retire over the next decade. That is why even if they secure the border they plan to immigrate 100 million or so here.

Neither party really has their heart in this. Nor will their solution really work. But, without S.S. reform, they don't feel they have many options.

quote:
Do you know who might really be furious? The Social Security Administration. If not for the billions in payroll taxes that illegal immigrants are paying into the system, the funding crisis facing Social Security would be much more serious and much more imminent. It is all thanks to the 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act, which made it a crime for employers to knowingly hire illegal immigrants.

True, the law is a joke that is rarely enforced, and that should bother the law-and-order crowd more than it does. But by forcing employers to require Social Security cards – even bogus ones – IRCA did manage to rope illegal immigrants into the system. Last year, contributions by illegal immigrants made up about 10 percent of the Social Security surplus – the difference between what the system takes in and what it doles out.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20050410
/news_mz1e10ruben.html
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There is a lot voters aren't being told about the economy, immigration, NAFTA superhighway, Debt, Deficit, unfunded liability for S.S. and Medicare, etc. Neither party is telling us what we need to know to make informed voting decisions and the main difference is that one party wants to spend less on defense to pay for more social spending.

Illegal Immigration
We need balanced enforcement and not more laws. We really need to shut down the border and simply enforce the laws that we have now. If we hire a load of agents and the problem is lessened these agents can be farmed out to other enforcement agencies. Also, we need to go after the employers of illegals. These employers need to be fined and prosecuted criminally. If an executive has to pay a civil penalty in the form of cash and do 30 days in population that would speak loudly to him. I also agree with Troglodite regarding the Sanctuary Cities. Many of these laws already violate federal statues especially when they tell their officers not to provide information to the feds. This is a violation of a specific federal statute. Under Title 18 US Code it is unlawful to punish or harasss anyone from providing information to any federal law enforcement agency.

Volunteers...
...what a great idea...so long as we don't have a President calling them vigilantes...

Linden: the problem
with your idea: who says we need more legal immigration?

Border Patrol Agents
Hiring more of them is a bad idea. We should be building a wall that only a few need to patrol. How cheap can federal employment possibly be?

Illegal Immigration
Radlad, please note that I agree with all that you say, however, all employers within the borders of our contiguous states should be compelled to post their bulletin boards with the fact that they are compelled by law, to replace all illegal employees by the end of a 90 period or suffer a $10,000 fine on all remaining illegal employees still in their employ at the end of that effective midnight the final day of the 90 days. 90 days is more than ample to hire less than highly skilled workers. I heartifly agree with the staggered wage scale and I also admire the person who suggested a tax of 50% of those monies sent back into Mexico, from those illegal aliens. However, I would limit that tax to 25% for three months, (90) days, and then raise it to 50% on the 91st day. This gives both employers and their illegal immigrant employees and chance to settle their affairs and return home to their native land. My Mom was a legal immigrant and I feel that she had to go through a long and involved process and she became a citizen of this great nation, making me one of those first generation Americans. I do not identify myself as other than American, with no prior ethnicity implied. I am fiercely proud of being an American and proud to have been a veteran during the Korean Conflict. While I am now old, over 75, I still get a lump in my throat at the sight of our American flag. God Bless America.

Give us illegal yearning to be exploited
Any “multi-layered” approach to the problem of illegal immigration should include the prosecution of those who cause it. The dairy operator, contractor, cleaning service provider, turkey processing plant operator, or other employer who hires illegals is the one who creates the magnet that draws these poor people.

Giving a starving man a sandwich for licking your boots clean may make you happy, and the man may be thankful for getting something to eat, but there is still something morally wrong with the picture.

These employers often say that the grateful Mexicans prove that what they do isn’t really wrong. They fail to consider that in towns that have factories with mostly illegal labor, the prevailing wages are much lower. They cause economic pollution.

If you really want to help Mexicans, build your plant in Mexico. If you do not like paying bribes to corrupt officials, then you begin to get an idea of why Mexico has problems. Bringing Mexican culture (which by definition has to include this culture of corruption) to the US is another way these greedy people are destroying our country.

We never imported these people; we do not need to deport them. They got here on their own; they can go home on their own. If their employment dries up because we start putting the criminal employers in jail and levying hefty fines, you would be surprised how fast this “flood” can be reversed.

Amazing solutions to a simple problem
Most of the "solutions" involve the US government "doing something".

Let the market decide. We don't need socialist ideas; we can let the labor supply decide.

If a US factory can't hire enough people to do the work, it may be that they aren't paying enough to attract workers. That's why the vast majority of people work: they need a paycheck.

Mexicans can get a paycheck in Mexico, they just want a larger paycheck and are willing to break several US laws to do it (although the US is unwilling to enforce those laws anyway).

My idea (9-9 10:14) about requiring US companies to pay illegals the prevailing wage in the country they came from would be a boon to US companies who hire illegals so their payrolls will be smaller.

Also, it would diminish the incentive for illegals to sneak into our country. Oh, they'd still sneak in to have babies and get free health care, but then law enforcement would hopefully do its job and arrest them.

MOST OF US
Already know that there are simple solutions to the illegal immigration crisis that is running wild in our nation at this very minute. Simply remove the incentives, take away the benefits and enforce everyone of the current immigration laws that are already in place, and the problem is solved, and BILLIONS and BILLIONS of our tax dollars will be saved by not letting our elected fools work on developing a problem that they originally created by not enforcing immigration laws that are all ready in place and on the books. Visit http://www.headsneedtoroll.org and post your views and opinions.
Heads Need To Roll

Government is a co-conspirator
That might be the purpose of raising the Min. wage. Make employers have to pay enough Americans would take the job.

It won't work though since wage inflation just eats up the buying power in several months or year and you are back to where you started except things cost you more and you may even lose buying power.

The government wanted business to hire. That is why it takes 6 mo. to a year to let an employer know his employee has a phony social security number.

You are all computer literate. You all know the "automatic" word filter this site has. Yet, the social security administration can tell for 8 or 9 months a number is a duplicate being used in two different cities or states?

As the article I posted says, they want the money more than the law obeyed coming in.

As the article says, the money from illegals is what is keeping outflows from exceeding inflows now to current retirees. Yet, voters don't support reform, don't support cutting benefits and don't support personal accounts (that could be no risk bond funds).

So, what is left. Legal immigration but, the numbers for legal immigration are limited by Congress and past legislation of how many can come in and what types.

Our unemployment rate would be so low without illegals (nation wide, not in union states where manufacturing leaves for other states as well as overseas), that wage inflation would totally overwhelm social security checks with wage inflation due to labor shortages. During the housing boom in Phoenix they had to pay $15 an hour just to get people to push wheelbarrows for construction sites. No skills, just push a wheelbarrow.

It is a good wage and many don't see a problem in paying more for homes to cover it however, it does effect lower wage earners and retirees on fixed incomes who want a new home.

Once Again
The solution is already in place. There are LAWS against hiring illegal labor. ENFORCE the laws on the books and the wetbacks will go home. Period. Ipso facto.

One of you Law Students out there
should make Application for Writ of Mandamus against the Attorney General and the INS to ENFORCE the existing laws.

Makes you sort of wonder
Who works on President Bush's ranch, don't it?

They want them here
They want them here. They want them to use phony social security numbers to save social security. They aren't going to enforce it much because they want the tax revenues.

You have cities creating safe hiring zones. New York's mayor has ordered the vendor licensing bureau not to check for legal status because they want the license fees and sales tax revenues from the illegals selling on the streets.

You have the S.S. admin not telling employers they have a bad number, police ordered not to check for illegal status, on and on the governement at ALL levels have been blocking enforcement. It isn't "Bush" anymore than any other level of government. They want them here.

It is D-Day, It is H-Hour
It has been D-Day and H-Hour since Reagan issued the first Amnesty plan 20+ years ago. We have been invaded by 12 Million. Ghengis Khan did not have those numbers. These 12 Million are also ARMED TO THE TEETH. I know first hand they are armed because my home was in a neighborhood heavily populated by illegals. The FIRST thing they purchase after getting a job is a firearm. Usually a 9mm automatic. WE HAVE 12 MILLION ARMED FOREIGN NATIONALS LIVING IN OUR COUNTRY! And all our government can do is worry about the killing horses for the Frogs to eat.

Immigration, border patrols etc.
This article of Tucker once again is prove that 9/11 was made in America by Americans for Americans, with its lawlessness from the Commander in Chief and so on down the line. To add insult to injury, millions of Americans including the ones who bragg about being conservatives, for the sake of making money, hiring illegals and many of them even now displaying bumber stickers that read: Support our Troops! Yes, George W. only followed several previous Commanders in Chief. He in reality has added insult to injury more than previous commanders by going to war and doing absolutely nothing to protect the borders. His first speeches on immigration actually encouraged illegals to come as never before.

In my estimation George W. instead of going to that despicable hole in the ground he should confess that he as commander in Chief betrayed the American people for not protecting the borders as demanded by the USA Constitution. Yes, in utter callousness he bragg about his accomplishments in Iraq for America's safety while the border still remain no better than a sieve, where hoodlums enter still. Yes, he braggs that nothing has happened since 9/11. That is so idiotic while the borders are open. Yes, the terrotists can wait for a better time as proved by the 9/11 disaster. Does it not?

These are my personal convinctions and conclusions I wish to share as demanded by the USA Constitution.

Sources and solution
I see the problem as being in many layers.

1) The standard of living here is much higher than Mexico and Central America (why are all illegals "Mexican"? They come from all over). They can send a small amount of money home and it's big bucks down there.

2) Mexico and by extension Central America (and some of South America?) is still holding over from the old Spanish Imperial system of landowners and peasants. Makes you wonder they come here?

3) Use the military to reinforce the border. Not for actual apprehensions, but for spotting. It can give them OJT for securing perimters, directly applicable to military situations. Glad to see they're finally doing that - I've been saying it for 20 years.

3) Tougher penalties for employers, people who give out fraudulent cards, and way stiffer penalties for those who give out stolen numbers. The problem originates there, but it is aided and abetted here.

As I've said once here before, why did immigration become such a hot button issue this year? Why not last year? Or the year before? Elections? Or is there more to it? What's the story behind the story?

Mission Very Slow Getting off the Ground
Suggestions were made in e-mail messages to my U.S. lawmakers that the U.S. hire the Minutemen (and advertise for more of them) for the job of protecting our borders.

The Minutemen certainly have the right attitude, need little training, and they're motivated.

At the present time the Minutemen are believed to be working for absolutely nothing except the opportunity to help keep our borders closed to illegal aliens of any stripe. I could be wrong about working for nothing; someone will correct me if I am.

However, the U.S.'s hiring them would seem to me to be a much more economical method than that reported in Mr. Tucker's 9/9/06 column, "Mission Accomplished."

Strangely, there has been no response from my lawmakers on this suggestion.

They (the politicians) should be open to any reasonable suggestions. But nooooooo.

Lawbrakers are now considered heroes?
Yes, a great "celebration" yesterday with millions again spent, while the USA borders still remain a sieve? Besides, after 5 years and the hole still there, while America's horrendous war machinery is all over the world haunting evil people.

Evidently it is no more the job of the President of this United States of America to protect Americans from being attacked from without? Furthermore, the laws of immigration do not mean anything anymore, while hoopla has it that they need to be reformed.

It is absolutely mindboggling that not a word was said yesterday by any decent commentator, etc., that the Commander in Chief is guilty for not doing what the Constitution demands of him, and the laws of immigration totally ignored.

One can only but wonder what George Washington would say were he to rise and see the nation he gave birth too? It seems like that I am a lonely voice raising these issues? The whole nation does not care?
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