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Monday, June 22, 2009
Rich Galen :: Townhall.com Columnist
Obama's Bay of PIgs
by Rich Galen
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President Barack Obama wanted to "reset" America's foreign policy following eight years of President George W. Bush pushing against the bad guys.

In March, President Obama released a video which was a greeting to the Iranian people on the occasion of the Persian new year. The Washington Post described the video as "offering a 'new beginning' in a tone that differed sharply from the anti-Iran rhetoric of his predecessor …"

The Post story went on to say that the Iranian government didn't think much of it because Obama didn't talk directly to President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. An official was quoted as saying, "Statesmen address each other, instead of talking to the people."

It is just possible that the anti-Ahmadinejad forces in Iran misread the words they heard from Mr. Obama. It is just possible that they interpreted them as a signal to step up their public opposition to the government of Iran.

It is possible that the backers of opposition leader Mirhossein Mousavi talked themselves into believing that, because President Obama had spoken directly to them - and not to Ahmadinejad - that he was tacitly promising to support them.

Not happening.

President Obama does not have the background or experience to deal with the barrage of foreign policy problems which appear to be confusing the White House.

In April, when Obama met with Latin American leaders, Pulitzer Prize winning columnist Eugene Robinson - not known as a supporter of Conservative causes - wrote:

Chávez can be charming. But when Obama shook the man's hand, he should have telegraphed clearly, through posture, expression and language, that he was not amused. Chávez's gift of the book was meant to affront, not to enlighten, and I would have advised Obama to reciprocate in kind.

The Voice of America, an arm of the State Department, published a piece last night saying:

U.S. President Barack Obama has urged Iran's government to "stop all violent and unjust actions against its own people." He called on Iran to "govern through consent, not coercion."

That's the good news. The bad new is that the VoA pointed out with pride that those words represented "his strongest response to Iran's post-election unrest."

The Iranian government is not likely to worry much about strong statements like that. In the Reuters report which hit the wires last night, this warning to readers was at the top:

EDITORS' NOTE: Reuters and other foreign media are subject to Iranian restrictions on their ability to report, film or take pictures in Tehran.

Time Magazine reporter, Howard Chua-Eoan, wrote that the world is reduced to getting the Iranian story from snippets

"Arriving over the internet transom, rough and insistent and bloody, were the tiny electronic dispatches from protesters forced off the streets of Tehran, shaky videos from a city screaming for help."

Rather than cowering in the face of Obama's "strongest response," Reuters reported that the Iranian government, instead, issued new warnings against the demonstrators whom it described as "terrorists" and warned that "police would confront all gatherings and unrest with all its strength."

We don't know how this is going to turn out. The most likely outcome will be that the protesters will realize there will be no help - other than "strong responses" coming from the West - and the protests will, like a hurricane after it has made landfall, run out of heat and dissipate into interesting but relatively harmless rainstorms.

If that is the case, the Obama new year's video may well come to be compared to President John F. Kennedy's Bay of Pigs - when promises of help were withdrawn and we have watched the half-century rule of the Castro brothers over the people of Cuba.

North Korea is testing Obama. Iran is testing Obama. The Taliban are testing Obama. Even Jimmy Carter is testing Obama.

Carter, while everything else is falling apart, visited Gaza and was shown a school which the ruling Hamas said had been damaged by the Israelis.

Carter said said "it's very distressing to me" that the school had been "deliberately destroyed by bombs from F-16s made in my country and delivered to the Israelis."

With friends like Carter, who needs …"

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Rich Galen has been a press secretary to Dan Quayle and Newt Gingrich. Rich Galen currently works as a journalist and writes at Mullings.com

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The Reset Button
When Hillary was sent to Russia earlier this year she brought a special present...a big red button that said 'Reset' in Russian.

Problem was, the crack team of experts at the State Department somehow forgot their pocket 'Russian-English/Enlish-Russian' Dictionary....the button actually read 'Overcharged'.

I think Obama mistakenly gave the Russians the button that was meant for the American people.

I wonder if the button that says "You're on your own" in Farsi has made to the Iranian people yet.

Obama's wife is a Bay and he's the Pig.

Don't need a cute little button to know that.

Stretch
Your whole premise is a serious strech. We trained cubans to fight in Miami then sent them to take on an army and left them without support. Hardly comparable to the current situation. A speech that calls for reopening of dialogue between two countries as grounds for promise of military support should the populous decide to revolt. Please, this is junk logic.

Iran
I called the White House comment line this a.m.(202)456-1111.
I told the operator that the wreath on my front door was adorned with BLACK and GREEN ribbon, that battery powered candles ALSO tied with BLACK and GREEN ribbon were in my windows.. I wanted to show solidarity and support for the BRAVE and BEAUTIFUL people of Iran. Then I asked what my President was doing. SILENCE!
Please show support for Iran with BLACK and GREEN! Remember NEDA!! Call the Presidential comment line. Let Jimmy Carter Jr. know that if he does nothing...,you'll do something!!!!

Remember it was the Iranians who lit candles and placed them in their windows after Sept. 11, 2001 to show their sadness and support for the United States.. The rest of the Middle Eastern Muslim countries were dancing on their rooftops in celebration!

Gee, I thought it referred to Chesapeake
closest bay to Washington DC, where Big Zero signed a porkfest budget!

Look in the mirror
When McCain offered mere moral support to the Georgians and condemnation of Russia during the Russian invasion of Georgia, conservatives praised him as doing the right thing, as offering something critical and substantial to the Georgians even though he wasn't willing to back it up with military force to help OUR MILITARY ALLY IN IRAQ.

But when Obama offers mere moral condemnation of the Iranian regime and isn't apparently willing to back it up with military force either, it is dismissed as ineffectual and insubstantial.

Which is it? With neocon/national greatness/social conservatives, it seems to be all about feelings, and not facts.

Caveat
Note that although I have favored hard military action against Iran and still do, I have done so on the grounds that they were behind 9/11 and are conducting military action against U.S. troops in Iraq.

It would be wrong for the U.S. to initiate military force on the pretext of an Iranian election, because it would send a clear message that we believe in American self-sacrifice for other nations, not national self-defense. We should not be publicly supporting any political candidate in that country. We will just have to wait it out.

Wendy
It's because Barry Soetoro a.k.a Barach Obama
is a wimpy, whiney coward and an amoral one at that..and he's not to be trusted with anything.
His words are as empty as his heart and head.

TP
Spoken like a true mindless wingnut. Kissinger, and George Will, also say Obama is handling the situation perfectly. And, if his words are so empty, why the heck do wingnuts blame everything wrong in the world on him? No, its far easier, to say Obama is a coward because he doesn't say belligerent things. Even Bush, in a moment of self criticism said he wished he hadn't been such a blow hard.

This Guy is Daft

Conservatives are crazy.

This is NOTHING like the Bay of Pigs. In that debacle, the US encouraged a bunch of Cuban ex pats to invade Cuba, and then left them hanging without military support. Obama has been careful to NOT encourage the Iranian uprising. I suggest a good part of the reason is that teh US will not and cannot provide military support to a rebellion. Pretending they will provide that support is invitign disaster.

But only in a goofy conservative mind does doing the opposite of the Bay of Pigs mean its actually like the Bay of Pigs.


Obambi is a girly boy
who really does not know what to say. He is "distressed"; he is "disturbed" - but he does NOTHING.

Taft scribbled
"Kissinger, and George Will, also say Obama is handling the situation perfectly"

Kissinger, who advocated US intervention (on behalf of a dictatorship) in 1971 against people whom the dictatorship decided to do a genocide on (as well as a nation whom the dictator was stupid enough to "invite" to the very-uncivil war he started)? Hardly a credible reference!

Astute Leadership
President Obama is doing the right thing here.

This is not about the United States and what the United States wants.

This is all about Iranians and THEIR country.

Why didn't the Republicans insist that Bush do something more in army controlled Myanmar when there was the recent crackdown on Buddhist monks and innocent people?

Why didn't the Republicans insist that Bush do something meaningful in Darfur?

Why didn't Republicans insist that Bush do something substantial in Africa's longest running war in the Congo?

We've seen the failure of American foreign policy for 8 years under Bush - his mantra was "Either you're with us or you're against us".

Let the Iranians decide for themselves.

RALPH

"Astute Leadership
President Obama is doing the right thing here."

You're kidding us right?
Since when did drooling become a viable foreign policy?

I guess ever since we (well 'you' not me) elected a juvenile to do an adult's job.

Might as well take the good
with the bad. Barry's inaction, which doesn't even include a sympathetic speech, may serve as a wake up call to all the countries that have been military parasites since WWII. Uncle Sugar, the policeman with the trillion dollar club, has hung it up, and is staying home. Maybe they will beef up their own self defense capabilities now. At least this would make them a better ally. In the slim chance they would care to be our ally.

Corndog
Are you slumming again? I notice you addressed a post to Ralph. Be sure to take off your muddy clothes and take a shower before coming back in the house.

Obama, The Janus

He says that all people will get free health care, but he cannot.

He says that all those making under $95K will not pay taxes, but he lies.

He says that the US should not meddle in Iranian internal affairs, he is a moron and a young woman died buried alive.

He said that we should dialogue with North Korea, but they are ready to nuke Hawaii and Alaska.

He has begged communist China (which employes slave labor) for money, but was laughed out by the country.

He gave $150bn to the IMF, but Russia and Brazil have purchashed gold.

He won Vermont, but they now want to secede.

He said that Global Warning is a crisis, but Fat Al Gore is unable to explain why New Jersey froze in June.

Obama Lied And People DIED.

iron fist
The best thing to do is let the Iranian people decide this, we already know what the outcome will be.

Merle CA
You post so cryptically from the failed state of California. AND...,just what is the outcome that we know it will be?

Hmmm., should we wonder why your state is in such trouble? you are as forceful as our President Jimmy Carter Jr.!

Take a stand! Take a stand!


Taft at 2:33 p.m.
You wrote: "And, if his words are so empty, why the heck do wingnuts blame everything wrong in the world on him?"

Whom are you talking about?

Are you referring to the left-wingnuts that blame everything wrong in the world on Bush?

Do you really want to bring up Kissinger and Will as the vanguards of the Right?

We are ALL Iranians today!!!!!!!!!!!
Whom do you stand with?
I say WE ARE ALL IRANIANS TODAY!!!!! True, if the public gets their way they may elect a guy who's not very friendly to the U.S. but at the same time it would be hard to find some clown who hates us more.

Either way LET THE IRANIAN PEOPLE DECIDE!!! THAT is what so many of us fought and died for even IF it doesn't fully serve our interests in the short run. ANYTHING that advances liberty in the world ultimately DOES serve our interests.

The Left always whined about the cruel and brutal Savak under the Shah. What about the thugs shooting 16 year old girls in the head and cutting the throats of male college students? 66% of the Iranian people were born AFTER the "Islamic Revolution" and have NO memory of the Shah but are daily targets for the abuses of the mullahs.

-Ray

WARNING!
Conservatives: Everything you say will be taken down by a biased media and misquoted against you out of context in a kangaroo court of public opinion. You have been warned.

King Elect O's foreign policy
Endless apologies:

1. To Europe (4/3/09)—“…there’s a failure to appreciate Europe’s leading role in the world.” We only saved them TWICE: 368.000,000 in 1918 and 738,000,000 in 1945.
2. To Muslims (1/27/09)—“…we are not your enemy.” We saved 1,400,000 Muslims in the Balkans, 20,000,000 Kuwaitis from Saddam Hussein, 24,000,000 from Saddam Hussein, 25,000,000 in Afghanistan, and we've poured trillions into Saudi Arabia for oil and virtually support Egypt and the renegade Palestinians.
3. Central and South Americans (4/17/09)—“…we sought to dictate our own terms.” If the more southern Americans just weren’t so enthralled with commie tyrants, maybe we’d have common grounds.
4. World leaders (4/2/09)—“…it is important to forge partnerships as opposed as opposed to simply dictating a solution.” Most world leaders in the UN oppose us at every turn, and then we pay them for it.
5. War on Terror (5/21/09)—“…our go government trimmed facts and evidence to fit ideological predispositions.” Forget that Muslims attack the Twin Towers and the Pentagon and have threatened annihilation.
6. Guantanamo (4/3/09)—“…we can’t lose sight of our values…” And what values are those?
7. Turks (4/6/09)—“Our country still struggles with the legacies of slavery and segregation.” And that has what to do with the Turks who sponsored two genocides of their own?
8. More Central and South America (4/16/09)--“..not pursued engagement with our neighbors.” 7-30,000,000 illegals aren’t enough?
9. For the CIA (4/29/09)--“…we have to acknowledge that we’ve made some mistakes.” Speak for yourself.
10. More on Gitmo (5/21/09)—“..Guantanamo set back [America’s] moral authority…” Better to let these people free to scheme and attack us again.
April was a banner month.

That's what the Dims. get for electing a jerk who never led a Cub Scout troop or met a payroll as a Taco Bell manager.

It is just possible
It is just possible that the world does not revolve around the United States.

It is just possible that self-determination is infinitely greater than forced "freedom."

It is just possible that if the Iranians need our help, they will ask for it.

And it's MORE THAN POSSIBLE that if we get involved we will only make matters worse for the potential revolutionaries.

A Man For No Seasons.
Dear Leader is between 'Barack and a hard place'. He's darned if he does and darned if he doesn't. He will do what his teleprompter tells him.

For years,we have heard how sorry Bill Clinton was for doing nothing about the Darfur situation. Obama will do nothing about Iran. What is it about Democrats that they will do nothing to help?

obama haters,
its really starting to look like the repigs not the repubs are crazy.....the wingnuts are against anything President Obama try to do.....i know that most of the country, will continue to see them for what they are power hungry nuts..everything the repigs do is to undermine our President ...this is love of country or is this love of power?????they offer no solutions the same things over and over....reagan this, reagan that of course they are nothing like President Reagan.....just lie after lie every week they cook up something new to bash the president with.....i would like to hear President Obama say to fix the news that bash him day in and day out you perform media bias everyday...yet when others dont fellow in your bias foot steps they are bias????thankfully they are only 20% of the voting public...

funny
One gets a sense of how desperate conservatives are that in pointing to Obama mistakes they are reduced to arguing that Obama did not frown properly when shaking a foreign leaders hand.

The Bay of Pigs comparison is equally silly. When the Russians crushed the Georgian act of defiance we know they felt betrayed by the lack of help because they said so. To date the Iranians have said nothing of the sort. But obviously requiring evidence is for wimps and democrats. Republicans get to just make stuff up.

Pretty silly.

Getting Tiresome
Does every TH editorial have to be stridently anti-Obama, even when writers like Mr. Galen have to resort to ridiculous comparisons?

Wouldn't it be a nice change if some actual analysis took place? What possible comparison could there be between the Bay of Pigs and Obama's video greeting to the Iranian people?

Doesn't TH have any vetting process for their writers or will they take any fool who promises an anti-Obama editorial?

One wonders if the results...
One wonders if the results of O's "foreign policy" is that leaders of Venezuela, North Korea, Iran, PRC, etc. think of Warner Bros. cartoons when they think of The One.

"I tawt I taw a Putty Tat!"

You get the picture...

i

Robert in CA
"Getting Tiresome
Does every TH editorial have to be stridently anti-Obama, even when writers like Mr. Galen have to resort to ridiculous comparisons?"

This is Townhall.com, not the Huffington Post. What did you expect to see when you came here?

The comparison is valid. The tacit approval initially given to the Cubans who launched the Bay of Pigs invasion evaporated when Kennedy saw the worm turn. Obama has no stomach for what's happening in Iran, and no clue how to help if he wanted to.

Robert
Getting tiresome huh. Well you just gotta live with that buddy. But I found it tiresome to listen to everything from the left being an attack on Bush. And I didn't even like Bush that much. You behaved to much like a democrat.
As for ridiculous comparisons. You mean like when Bush and Cheney were compared to Nazi's? Or perhaps when Iraq was called Bush's Vietnam?

The Point
The point is that President Obama continues to believe that the Iranian government cares about the opinions of other countries. It is sad, really - he is projecting his own dependence on approval from people of the world.

This is evident by his 'strong comment' that we will bear witness (watch and do nothing) and the world is watching (as if any of the Iranian leaders give one flip about that).

In over his head
I don't think he wakes up in the morning thinking - how can I embarrass myself and the country with useless, naive gestures to 3rd world thugs? - with no background in foreign policy and only a theoretical "world view", he simply doesn't know any better.

You forgot one renny
2009/02/14 -- Ottawa; 0bama (who had an anti-NAFTA idea for part of his campaign theme) offers apologies to Canada's government (Conservative Party under Harper--original 1988 Canada-US Free Trade deal signed under misrule by ex-PC portion of this party) and opposition (Liberal Party under Ignatieff--1988 deal was transmogrified to NAFTA under misrule of this party's 1993 government), becoming the first-ever POTUS to visit Ottawa holding (figurative) alms-bowl!

THE WRONG STUFF
Nothing the President could say or do would have make a grain of difference in Iran. The mullahs will kill millions to keep themselves in power. This is not to excuse the president's relative silence on the crisis. He's been nothing short of deplorable. He should have said what McCain said during the Georgian War: 'Today we are all Iranians. We stand with those brave souls who hunger for civil rights and liberty against the inhumanity of a brutal fascist tyranny! Obama just doesn't know how to be strong and inspiring for American ideals and values, which are timeless and universal. He is a poor, weak, stupid man, a mental and moral midget, who is made of the wrong stuff.


THE WRONG STUFF
Nothing the President could say or do could make a grain of difference in Iran. The mullahs will kill millions to keep themselves in power. This is not to excuse the president's relative silence on the crisis. He's been nothing short of deplorable. He should have said what John McCain said during the Georgian War: 'Today we are all Iranians. We stand with those brave souls who hunger for civil rights and liberty against the inhumanity of a brutal fascist tyranny! Obama just doesn't know how to be strong and inspiring for American ideals and values, which are timeless and universal. He is a poor, weak, stupid man, a mental and moral midget, who is made of the wrong stuff.


WITH FRIENDS LIKE CARTER & OBAMA...


Obama and Obamaism can only exist if the TRUTH remains unknown and uncertainty continues to prevail. Obama; his sole and heart are without substance or gratitude for what makes America so unique. Words alone will not suffice for making the “right” decisions. Obama will naturally blame the previous administration for his failures and although we now have a “One Party” representation in Washington, future decisions may not be the “right” decisions for America. These decisions, ultimately right or wrong, will not be immediately apparent; yet time and commonsense will eventually make them self evident.

This scares me and should scare every American that believes in “freedom”. Yet, as the recent election proves, most Americans have lost the commonsense necessary for making informed decisions and the toughness required for a strong, independent, prosperous, and free America.

When ALL is said and done…America will be the first casualty of the twenty-first century. As Obama goes…so goes America…so goes the rest of the world.

http://incongress.blogtownhall.com/


Demonstrators Described as "terrorists"?
Akmobamajob's regime must have read Obama's DHS report that labeled tea-party protest as "low level terrorism". I wonder what the response will be to the scheduled July 4 protest? Actual attacks by Obama goons or more personal smears from his media?

Galen:
Carter said said "it's very distressing to me" that the school had been "deliberately destroyed by bombs from F-16s made in my country and delivered to the Israelis."

It has been said that Being in Love Means Never
Having to Say Your Sorry. That is one of the
dumbest, but most remembered statements about
love ever made.

More importantly, if you are sorry, say you
are sorry. Even if you aren't sorry, say you
are sorry.

Why did Israel bomb a school? Why are we
giving money to Israel for bombs, or anything
else while they are being so damned despicable.

Wendy at 1:58
Lemme see if I can clear this up for you a little: McCain was campaigning for the presidency and was in no position to do anything but what he did. Obama, thanks to y'all, is the president, and he is doing nothing. I am flabbergasted that you cannot see the difference. Then again, maybe I am not so surprised.

READ...
"The Iranian Election and the Revolution Test" at Stratfor.com. Very good analysis of what happened in Iran. I know it changed my mind on a few things.
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