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Monday, September 29, 2008
Rich Galen :: Townhall.com Columnist
A Buy-In, Not a Bail-Out
by Rich Galen
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By the time you read this, the House might have already voted to pass the bill House Speaker Nancy Pelosi described as "not a bail-out, but a buy-in." The President will probably already have spoken and a good number of House Republicans will defied their leadership and voted against it.

I know a lot of MULLINGS readers are against this bill as well, and as you know I am not its biggest fan, but I think it is a must-do. To over-state the metaphor: If your boat is taking on water, and you are opposed, in ideological grounds, to bailing it out, it will sink and you will drown.

Let's forget about Merrill Lynch and Washington Mutual and Lehman Brothers. Let's look in, as the ad goes, YOUR wallet. What do you have in there; three credit cards? Four? Six? Come on. Come clean.

I will. I have two Amex cards - one for business use one for personal - a Visa ATM card and a MasterCard. Four. Which, according to an article in the San Jose Mercury News is the number the average American has in his or her wallet.

In fact, there are just short of a BILLION Visa, MasterCard and American Express cards in circulation in the US representing a total debt a little shy of a TRILLION dollars.

Ok. Enough of the data. Now to the point of all this.

Credit cards have been the fuel behind the extraordinary growth in the US economy which has been largely based upon consumer spending. Hold that thought.

Let's say the total debt of all of your credit cards is about $10,000 - which would put you just about at the average. Credit card companies generally require a minimum payment of about 4% of your balance on each card each month. $10,000 x .04 = $400. Each month.

With me so far?

Banks and other issuers have to have the funds to pay the merchant (less a fee) when you charge something. In order to do that, THEY have to borrow money. And they use your credit card debt is their collateral.

If the credit market remains frozen, then the banks can't borrow money to cover the $4 you put on your credit card at McDonalds this morning. They have no choice but to get you to pay your debt back faster.

Let's say that issuers raise the minimum payment from about 4% per month to 6% per month. Just two percentage points. But on your $10,000 debt your monthly payment just went from $400 per month to $600 per month.

I know you have $200 lying around at the end of each month you haven't known what to do with, but a lot of us don't.

In order to find that extra $200, you have to do two things: First you have to spend $200 less each month in cash at the grocery store, the gas station, or Starbucks. Second you have to stop charging to your credit cards because every $100 you charge now adds $6 to what you have to pay - every month.

If 100 million families have credit cards, and each of them spends $200 less per month in cash because of the higher minimums, that is $20 billion being kept out of the economy. Every month. Plus whatever people aren't charging any more.

Twenty billion dollars not being spent means businesses can't keep as many people doing whatever they were doing before. That means layoffs. More layoffs means more people unable to pay their debts - credit cards or mortgages. More defaults and foreclosures means an even slower economy leading to a spiral which could result in a 1930's style depression.

I'm not suggesting that will be the result of the Congress not passing the Bail-out/Buy-in Bill, but I wanted to point out that the situation is not limited to keeping Wachovia in business.

It comes down to you and me and our ability to get through the month.

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Rich Galen has been a press secretary to Dan Quayle and Newt Gingrich. Rich Galen currently works as a journalist and writes at Mullings.com

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Didn't I hear somewhere that says
the "borrower is slave to the lender"? Last I checked, freedom and slavery don't mix too well. Either we are free or slaves but can't be both. This bailout means we are less free than we used to be.

I dont have a single credit card...
So there. I don't want the federal government to buy-in to anything. I do want to see language that will prevent this type of insanity from repeating itself.

Note to self: never ever vote for another encumbant.

I'm with you, Screwtape...
I don't have a credit card...I pay cash for everything. I do have a mortgage which is paid every month on time...since that's under contract I don't believe anyone can arbitrarily change the terms (30-year fixed). I think a lot of the problem is that we are a credit-based economy now. That's not the best way to be by any means...but it seems to be the way the economy is...which means we have to deal with it that way. I was adamantly opposed to the bail-out. I not only didn't want to bail-out Wall Street, but I didn't want to bail-out people who shouldn't have mortgages in the first place. I don't believe it is an American "right" to own a home...I believe it is a "privilege" and I worked very hard to be able to purchase my first home many years ago. That being said, I believe we have to swallow the bitter pill and afford some relief to the markets, whether that be a loan, a purchase of "bad debt" or an insurance plan. I don't see that will change the bad practices, however, and I think that needs to be addressed immediately. I'm tired of paying Congress to take breaks. They need to work like everyone else. Paying them to campaign is ridiculous.

why...
my wife and I planned so that all purchases, including cars and homes would either be bought outright or as soon as possible. We don't put anything on credit we can't afford to pay off next month. Why should I be responsible for people who don't plan?

I can hardly wait to start paying for some other American's kids schooling...mortgage...auto industry innovation...health care...federal workers pension plan. Where will it end!

I agree...no more incumbants! and no second terms!

Rich Galen writes:
Let's forget about Merrill Lynch and Washington Mutual and Lehman Brothers.
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All this article did for me is to make me mad, mad mad mad.

I am angry at any justification for STEALING,I hate it with a passion.

This system is ROTTEN TO THE CORE.
Quit trying to fix a system designed by thieves and get rid of the rotten lying bankers control over the nations economy and money supply.

This is the only real solution to the continuing THEFT BY GOVERNMENT and taking control over my finances by the likes of the idiots in Congress.
We have a government of idiots running this country into the ground, and this is the problem.

Here you come with lets "forget" blah blah blah.
NO!

The financial system is ILLEGAL
And the American people have been lied to so this scam operation of bankers owning us all can go on and on with its thieving methods that unbacked phony "money" gives them countless opportunities to enrich themselves as this situation has now revealed.
And the crooks in government are working to cover up all the crimes.

This system of fiat paper money is illegal.

western bondbeam:
Actually we gave up our freedom went we started relying on credit to live.

InHisgrip: congrats on being able to live debt free. Did you or your wife take out any student loans? those will disappear too. I'm not saying I disagree with you about wanting to bailout anyone else but like the article said "if your taking on water and don't bailout it out you are going to sink" I personally have spent the last 2 years working 3 jobs and trying very hard to get out of the debt I was in, but I couldn't afford a $200 increase in payments per month.

We are in this situation because of choices made in the past and now we have to access the situation and make the best choice for the future. wishing we made a different choice in the past doesn't get us anywhere.

Change the analogy
Rich's analogy of bailing out the ship should be changed as follows:

"Some people decide to take a leaky boat out on the lake that had a high risk of sinking if even the smallest of waves hit it. You warned those people not to go out there with that boat, or at least you saw the risk, but they ignored you or decided to go along with it anyways.

The boat operators were smiling wide counting the money they just earned on renting out the rickety boat, and thinking how much more they would earn if they could rent out more rickety boats.

The people on the boats were suddenly hit by several large waves, and the boat started taking on water. You were on the shore, minding your own business, not having taken the risk of being out there in a risky, old boat.

The people on the boat are now demanding you help them. At first you refuse and tell them they must swim to shore, they won't die after all, but they might learn their lesson having to swim to shore themselves.

Then people with guns walk up to you and force YOU to give money towards sending out a ship and helping those fools in the boats. You try to reason with the gun toting enforcers, but they laugh and rip your wallet from your pocket, take your money, and continue on to the next person.

So you "help" bail them out, because you have no other choice, and the people on the boat cheer at how great all this help will be and it will stave off catastrophe.

When the fools get to shore they say "Oh, that was fun, let's do it again!"

Unfortunately the gun toting enforcers are no where to be seen to stop them from being foolish once more."

Pay your bills!
I have 2 cards. One is a debit card. The credit card is PAID OFF each and every time I use it, which is rarely. I make 25 grand a year and I live within my means. Try it.

This is sooo neat
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi described as "not a bail-out, but a buy-in.
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Lets all take this example in how to define any issue in the world.

Let me just call bank robbery as a loan never due.

This is great, this is not a bail out its a buy in.

I can do this for my neighbors too.
I just go and talk them into letting me pay their debts for them and I can call it a buy in.

Lets all be morons and idiots like nancy is

Jennifer/Talent Scout
Jennifer: I know, hence the whole "borrower is slave to the lender" proverb. I used to be debt free (including mortgage). Now it appears I am going to be "buying in" on someone elses poor money management. So much for debt free.

Talent Scout: If it's a buy in, they should offer the American people the option of passing on the buy in. Pelosi should have worded it a "flush down" which is where our money will be going.


Robert
Great post, succinct and to the point.

The problem is it's "the norm" now to live beyond your means and have an entitlement mentality.

But you're right on the money in my opinion.

We all need to learn to live within our means, not beyond it.

McCain will skip second debate
Hey, I wonder if McCain will skip the *SECOND* presidential debate unless there's a bailout agreement.

Bwaaa haaaa!!!

No-backbone McCain. And Moron Sarah.

What a ticket.

The $200 is still being spent
I saw this coming so I have been paying down my credit cards, but let's assume fro a minute that I have the $10,000 on them and have to pay the extra $200 them each month. I am still spending the $200 - just on something different. My banks take that and spend it on something else. The $200 is still being spent.

Hallelujah
I cut up all my credit cards years ago. I knew this was going to happen.

A lot of us
Evidently like several others posting here I use my credit cards extensively, because it is a convenient payment mechanism. But because I'm cheap, I pay my monthly credit card bill(s) off in full each month in order to avoid financing expenses--except for those, rare, times I forget to do so.

The point is, there's nothing wrong, dangerous or corrupting in using credit cards, as long as one doesn't let one's spending spin out-of-control.

But to be fair, I hailing from a dirt poor working class family in the only Kansas town, Galena, mentioned in John Steinbeck's "Grapes of Wrath" learned early in life to carefully control my spending (if one didn't have the money, one couldn't spend it, it was as simple as that) and to rein in my desires for unreachable things. Learned also there were things I desired I could afford, if I saved up to buy them.

I doubt that very many here who have resorted to making purchases via layaway plans, but I did decades ago.

It's not credit cards
it's irresponsibiltiy and lack of planning and the *need it* feeling for any new gimmick coming down the pike. All the same applies to pols. and our Cong. and its endless expenditures and must-haves in earmarks and expenses.

I wrote yesterday elsewhere that I am better off than five years ago and hope to be better yet in five years.

But I planned by working where a pension was guaranteed, invested and saved for myself and still do, did not (and don't) travel every year, never bought a time share or second home, don't have a new car, have a $4.97 Walmart Timex watch that deserves a medal for still running after many years, don't buy new fashions, yadda yadda.

Shopping is not one of my hobbies.

For people who live for the shopping channel and have to have everything and must keep up with the Joneses, their lives are a succession of booms and busts, for which I don't feel responsible.

I don't feel responsible for Lehman Bros. But we have to consider the ec. will be worse if people need to make withdrawals from banks and the money or the bank isn't there. That's what starts what they call panics and we haven't had them since the 1930s and we're the better for it.

Gutsy Sarah
Frequently one reads ignorant people denigrating Sarah Palin because she doesn't have a polished politician's line of B.S. down pat. That's partly because her consituents, the plain folk of Alaska, don't appreciate a politician's B.S.

Also, she's criticized for having attended several schools. What those making this a criticism either don't or do not want to understand is that Sarah had to pay her own way through school, picking up credit hours when she had the opportunity & could afford to pay for them. This is far from suggesting intellectual weakess but rather is a testament to her gusty determination to better herself. Evidently, she chose to be graduated from the Univ. of Idaho because that was the best, most prestigious, school available to her.

It ill becomes pampered fools who had their education costs handed to them on silver platters to criticize her courage and will to succeed.

INGSOC Buy-In
The NAZI Pelosi's INGSOC (English Socialism for those of you who have not read Orwell's 1984) Buy-In was shot down. She will try again as it is the Democratic way.

Cut - Cut - Cut;
Haven't credit counselors been advising people to cut up their credit cards. Why should people be living on credit month to month? Don't we expect to be paid for our work? Shouldn't we be expected to pay our bills. Pay your bills and stop the credit card circle. It has to end sometime it might as well be now. No "bail out".

Lord have mercy
Mr. Galen! You charge, you owe, you pay. This whole shebang is about doing what you want to perpetrate or should I say perpetuate; borrowing to the hilt. We can survive a pinch in the wallet to pay down our debt. Criminy, that's what 99% of all financial advisors tell people to do. And you think being contrarian is reason enough to support the bailout.
We might see some credit card holders with a diminished credit limit. That would be to their benefit, actually.
And this.... I am griping my keyboard to keep from being insulting to you.
Families pay $200 more per month on their credit cards are not keeping that $200 out of the economy. They've already spent it.
It is almost as if you are encouraging raging limitless debt. I mean if paying just the minimum is such a good thing, why not pay nothing. Think of all the money that would flow into the economy if credit card holders had to cough up zero cash on their balances and could spend it!!! Oy Vey!
Were you up against a deadline with an order from higher ups to produce something, anything that stunk of suport for the bailout.

That’s right...
That’s right...it comes down to you and me; and Big Business and Big Government picking our pockets each payday. I alone cannot control Big Government; I can only reduce its terrible effects by lowering my income. But Big Business is another story, in 2001 when I lost my job and had to try an exist on unemployment, I decided that I would pay-off all credit card debt and only keep my Bank Debit Card. So I only have my mortgage to worry about, but the monthly escrow payments have climb to where they are just as much as the principle and interest. Going from a 100+K salary to under 30k, has only made a difference in my income not the percentage I have to pay in taxes.

Not just credit cards
It will be the whole economy.

I do not use credit cards either. However, paying cash on the barrel-head will not protect you from the bursting financial bubble.

Businesses routinely use credit. When their interest rates go up, or loans dry up completely, cash strapped companies will have to contract, resulting in layoffs, rising prices and business failures.

We will see just how bad the situation gets, but avoiding personal credit will not completely shield you.

BTW, I'll support a bailout when it eliminates the CRA provisions which MANDATED firms write bad loans. I wouldn't mind seeing punishments for certain politicians who lowered loan approval standards and protected Freddie Mac, Fanny Mae and their executives in exchange for fat campaign contributions.

A buy-in?
I work in a casino. I know what a buy-in is. I would like Nancy Pelosi to gamble with her own money, please.

Pelosi Poisoned The Well
America's standard of living is fraudulent and it has been for decades because it is based on borrowed money that will never - repeat never - be repaid. At some point America will repudiate the national debt, because it will exceed the value of everything in the country, plus 100% of the value of all labor for a generation. Our debt is so massive because we as a nation have refused to live within our means, and we have promised ourselves things that cannot be: free health care for everyone. Free "education" (government indoctrination) for everyone. Jobs for everyone. Material possessions without limit. Huge houses crammed full of glittering new toys. Which political party has done the most to foster the idea that it is a basic human right to have everything we want, and more, and that it must happen right now, and that we will use government to force it to happen by taxing those bad people over there? Why, Nancy Pelosi's party, that's who. Here's what Nancy says: "We'll use Jimmy Carter's Community Reinvestment Act to force those evil banks to lend money to these poor little deadbeats who refused to go to school or get a job, so that they can have Tony Soprano's house,because after all, it's a basic human right to have Corian countertops and vaulted ceilings and walnut paneling in the library. And you suckers who have never bought anything new your whole lives, you stupid thrifty people who learned the lessons of the Great Depression on your parents' knees, you dullards who refuse to refinance your houses multiple times to help our economy, you bastards who manage to put a little but away in your stupid little savings accounts, we'll take it away from you." Well, Nancy, you're not going to get one penny from me to bail out your deadbeat loser supporters, your crooked fellow Congressmen, your filthy Fanny Mae, your fatcat mortgage brokers, your lawyers, your leveraging money changers. All of you can go to hell right now.

Face it : America is Broke!
And yes, unlike all the politicians today, it is the right time to point fingers now!

We are still paying for our extravagant folly of electing Jimmy Carter. Two glaring examples being Iran and the current welfare housing debacle.
Every people do have the government they deserve. That includes us.

Our four greatest industries are either broke or well on the way :

A) Healthcare - Trial lawyers and frivolous lawsuits have made health insurance so expensive that hardly anyone, private or business can afford it anymore.

B) Housing - The overbuilding during our fraudulent welfare housing "boom" will take 20 years to normalize again, if ever.

C) Financial Services - New York, once the world's financial capital, has totally lost credibility, Financial services on a global level are being diluted to Hong Kong, Tokyo, London, Zurich and other centers.

D) Agriculture - It's still productive but under imense pressure of excessive regulations and high taxes. In spite of protectionist barriers and anti-free market subsidies in America, Brazil, with a truly free market agriculture, is quickly surpassing America both in production and global competitiveness. Soon we might be dependent on imported foods in addition to oil.

Conclusion - looks like we are headed in the same direction as "Progressive" California : Bankrupcy - financially, economically, morally and spiritually with a credit rating equall to that of Bolivia!

Buy In
Marxists are being short-sighted in wanting to change their approach from being fascists where they control the owners to becoming socialists where they are the owners. Once they buy the properties, how are they going to blame the "evil" owners for all the disasters.

An example is our government monopoly school system where the evil owner causing all the problems is clearly the government.

False dilemma
Newt Gingrich said that we do not have to bail or sink. We can temporarily suspend the mark-to-market requirement of Sarbanes-Oxley. If that does not cause $500B of the $700B to flood back into our system, the suspension of that requirement can be revoked.

We do not have to resort to more government to "solve" another problem caused by too much government.

Sorry, I Don't Feel Bad
"It comes down to you and me and our ability to get through the month."

What a sad state of affairs. Perhaps I am cold-hearted, but I don't feel sorry for those who have made the decision to live "month to month." Whatever happened to saving a little for a rainy day? Well, the rainy day is here folks, and those whose personal finance skills are poor will suffer a bit. Maybe a few hard knocks can teach us a bit about frugality.

the Janitor who owns 3 Houses
And these houses are all designated low income. Yet he is trying to sell them at market. That's Fraud 101 - he's a crook. When I mention this to "liberal thinkers" - they say he's a shrewd businessman. There are a lot of people that need to get burned -to the ground- by reality. Clear out the dead wood.

a GREAT video about the crisis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH--o

This youtube takes a few minutes to watch, but it shows really WHY we are in this financial crisis, which was substantially caused by the left/'Crats... I urge you to WATCH IT, PASS IT ALONG, and POST IT ANYWHERE where cognitive people might be interested in understanding the mess.

The video has links and reference sources to build its case. Speaking as a banker of 25 years who was asked to deal for a time with problem assets, I can attest that the banks were effectively compelled to make marginal to poor mortgage loans under the guise of government backing. We all knew that CRA type lending was a ticking time bomb.

The video shows how a flawed social engineering theory resulted in a massive housing bubble, which inexorably had to burst eventually, exposing the fatally flawed lending mistakes engendered by government leftists, first beginning under Jimma' Carter, but made far worse under Slick Willie Clinton.

It was not first and foremost (or even primarily) the marketplace which failed here... it was, once again, social engineering theory and government fiat... but "greed and graft in the marketplace" will wear the collar. This is not, however, to exonerate the thieves packaging mortgages (MBS's) on Wall Street. They are the same morally-bereft, vulture types who were there for the LBO and "dot.com" ripoffs... this time it is MBS's and derivatives.

I will say this-- IF the government bailout does not overprice the "assets," we COULD actually come out whole. We did on the Chrysler bailout, and even when we bailed out Mexico, which paid us back early and at a premium-- probably with some of the oil or drug $ we send them! We even came out surprisingly well on the massive S&L bailout following Reagan's ill-fated and ill-advised deregulation of thrifts (S&L's).

agree in principle
re:
"To over-state the metaphor: If your boat is taking on water, and you are opposed, in ideological grounds, to bailing it out, it will sink and you will drown."

The govt. CAUSED this mess, and the mess is REAL. We CAN come out whole with an INTELLIGENT bailout. We cannot long endure, however, with the markets in a lurch. When banks like 4th largest Wachovia are cratering due to bad home mortgages alone, it speaks volumes.

The good news? ALL of these mortgages have SOME value, and many need not result in ANY loss, provided that the properties are not liquidated in a panic mode. Further, we need to correct the government's attempt at social engineering-- NO MORE mortgages to those who do not even pay rent on time!

CRA
It was the creation of the CRA that made all of this possible in the first place. The demo's want you to believe that it was the bankers greed and mismanagement and I'm sure there was some of both but without the CRA it would not have been possible to be greedy or to mis-manage.

MISSING THE POINT - BADLY
I have only seen a couple of posters here who seem to understand what the legislation would do. This is not a perfect bill, but a failure to restart the trading of mortgage-backed securities and their cousins will result in the credit markets truly seizing up. Our Congressmen can do their parts by stripping all provisions not directly related to the purchase of these securities from the bill.

Are there mortgages in this country that are in trouble? Yes. But the average morgage value has not dropped by 70% in the last six months and the vast majority are still performing. If Treasury starts buying these securities at 50 cents on the dollar the taxpayers will make a killing. This bill is not about giving free passes to people who fraudulenty took on mortgages they couldn't afford - it's about preventing a complete meltdown in our financial system that will affect every person posting on this site.
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