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ken you are missing the point on whether or not FDR actually knew pearl harbor was coming or was involved with all the details that made it a surprise.,,, (I personally am not jaded enough to believe he wanted US deaths, unlike MOVEON.org.)
The point is that when we are grading this president for his actions we are matching him up against our past..."anything else would be uncivilized"... And I bring this to you to have you "see" the difference in America today vs. America then the (greatest generation).
Back then in 1939 and 1940 before we were at war, we had special programs set up for ENGLAND and not GERMANY OR JAPAN,, this was an umbrella program called LENDLEASE.. the idea being that they could buy our war and foodstuffs and pay back later (read never) this basically was FDR's way of saying I like my buddy Winston Churchill and not Hitler. We also sold them 40 destroyer class warships as well as any other weapons.
AMERICA was NEUTRAL,,, in words only...(again I am not against what FDR did I think he did the right thing against an EVIL man and empire),,
The great newspaper the NEW YORK TIMES "all the news that fit to print" obviously did not view this as bad and worthy of articles showing the discrepancy. 700,000 future deaths on the line but they won't go there.
After pearl harbor ,,, FDR ok's "concentration camps" for all japanese Americans in Hawaii and the west coast,,, surely someone in the media back then would pick up the plight of a race of Americans being forced into camps. NOPE>>>>
Not to mention any German Americans that might have been hollered down.
That is what happened then,, but according to the left... the patriot act is the biggest threat "ever" to american's rights. HMMMMMMMM
Now ken if you lived back then I suggest YOU would have supported this action because we were afraid of a japanese landing and a few japanese americans had spied for JAPAN on our Hawaii facilities. I don't even think that the Japanese americans at that time were more upset about being put in these camps or not being given the chance to (show they were americans too) by fighting against JAPAN. They later go to the Europeon campaign and are some of our best GI's.
KEN can you see the difference in our country today vs. yesteryears.

IF the MEDIA, ACLU, MOVEON, Jesse Jackson, Sharpton, Harry Reid, Pelosi, MURTHA and others been around back in 1940 we probably would not have.
1. entered WW2. Pearl Harbor can be negotiated with the Japanese as we are not a Neutral country vis-a-vis them and Germany against England. Remember this is the crowd of make peace not war. Avoid war at any cost. Lets investigate the president about why we were not neutral. We need Committee hearings to determine how 40 destroyers were given to ENGLAND while we are neutral. The Lendlease program led to this. Ancient American and English gunboat diplomacy in the orient has angered the Japanese to attack us,,(its our fault). Our racism against minorities asians, blacks and German Americans is what led JAPAN to try and FREE them from this oppressive land.

ken can you see it....can you dig it....

2. We would have never gone on to win it...that war back then cost us 700,000 some odd deaths not to mention the collateral damage our bombings caused. Al Franken would be invited by Hitler to broadcast from Berlin and report on the damage going on by evil ENGLISH and AMERICAN bombers. (he might really like this assignment as he would be running for the senate in MINNESOTA and there are lots of GERMAN AMERICANS in the great lakes area,,this would mean votes)
Jesse and AL sharpton would be traveling around making stump speaches about how Black boys were disrescted by not being able to fight with the white boys (they were seperated)but also they were wastin time over in Europe on FRANKLINS war.

Ken if you can't see it then your eyes ain't open my friend.

Now to the big question... are we better off now with the way our country is? vis then?
And how does BUSH look vis FDR, LINCOLN etc.