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Monday, August 28, 2006
Rich Galen :: Townhall.com Columnist
Nagin, Brownie & Katrina
by Rich Galen
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Note: Before we begin, I want to note the release of Fox News reporter Steve Centanni by some religious zealots in Gaza. I have known Steve for a number of years. He has made a career of going to dangerous places to try and get to the heart of the crucial stories of our age.

We should all say a prayer of thanks that Steve and his cameraman were released unharmed.

New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin is a goofball. Louisiana Governor Kathleen Blanco is incompetent. Former FEMA director Michael Brown has an ego the size of a category 5 hurricane.

In a nutshell (emphasis on the first syllable) you have the leaders on the ground of the three levels of government who were involved in the preparations for, and the actions following, the landfall of Hurricane Katrina.

As it turned out there was not a competent person among the three of them.

You may remember that I went down to the region shortly after the hurricane hit, after the levies failed and after it became clear it was going to be a horror.

It is in the nature of the news business - and in the nature of human beings - that we love to hear bad news about other people. In real live we call this: Gossip.

Don't believe me? Why do you think 30-second negative political ads are so effective? They move votes because we love gossip. Oh. YOU don't love gossip, but everyone else in your office does.

The good guys in all this were the rank-and-file FEMA guys (see "Marty and Joe" from September, 2005), the National Health Service folks, and the Coast Guard.

One Guardian told me that in a "normal" disaster you show up with trucks loaded with food and supplies, and you show up with buses to take the stranded to safety - 30 to 45 at a time.

But in this case, because the city was under water, it became an air-sea rescue operation. Instead of moving 45 people at time, the Coast Guard helicopters could airlift two or three. "In the best of circumstances," I was told, "we're six percent - SIX percent - as efficient as we would be if we could get land vehicles in there."

When reporters wanted to hitch rides on Coast Guard helicopters (one of the The Lad's responsibilities, by the way) only one TV crew could go. The Coast Guard insisted that space be reserved in case they found someone stranded on a roof top.

The Coast Guard. The National Health Service. Rank-and-file FEMA folks. Heroes.

Then there were the political people: Dopes.

Governor Blanco spent a significant amount of her time, in essence, sitting in a corner her arms wrapped around her, rocking back and forth. She refused to allow the National Guard to be nationalized to join the troops commanded by Lt. Gen. Russell Honore.

Ray Nagin not only didn't direct rescue and recovery operations, he was found hiding out in the Hyatt, fearful that his constituents, the residents of New Orleans, would storm the place and lynch him.

"Brownie," who had already decided he was leaving FEMA to go into the private sector, was more worried about how his performance would influence the job offers he'd already received than how his agency was performing.

I did Hannity & Colmes on Friday night to discuss Mayor Nagin's stupid crack that the lack of progress in New Orleans was no different than the "hole in the ground" which is how he described the remnants of the attack on the World Trade Center buildings.

I said that everyone knows Nagin is a dope. But when he says things like that - and says things like New Orleans continuing to be a "chocolate city" - the rest of the country thinks he is not a serious guy and think that enough money has been spent on rebuilding a city which (a) has done nothing to help itself at all and (b) is being run by people who are goofballs.

Katrina demonstrated the best and worst in people. Unfortunately, the worst were the people in charge.

The best were the people who's names we will never know.

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Rich Galen has been a press secretary to Dan Quayle and Newt Gingrich. Rich Galen currently works as a journalist and writes at Mullings.com

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Please remind me
Exactly what section of the Constitution authorizes the Federal government to provide disaster relief? I've forgotten.

Please remind the government
Exactly what section of the Constitution authorizes the Federal government to provide disaster relief? They've forgotten.

As I have said
the biggest culprit in the whole mess was the governor. (Not to suggest that there was not an abundance of private citizens who behaved idiotically, criminally, etc.) And of COURSE Nagin is a moron.

But to suggest the rank and file FEMA guys were all heroic is absurd. Do you have any idea how many different local police chiefs, sheriffs, etc. had to place armed guards on their assets (communication, fuel, water, etc.) with instructions to shoot any FEMA personnel who attempted to confiscate it? I'm not talking about excess amounts of these things, either. After a certain point, FEMA just cared more about public relations (getting everything to N.O. -after all, that where the TV cameras were pointing) than anything else.
That isn't all they were confiscating, either. Any local government who DID have their act together enough in the first days and weeks to contract with private companies for clean-up, waterpumps, etc. were likely to get a call from that company saying their equipment was confiscated en route.
This is what happens when beaurocrats have too much power.
Today, people in N.O. CAN'T rebuild because they CAN'T get permits. The city is fighting the parish is fighting the state is fighting the Corp of Engineers over what exactly the new building codes will be, over what elevation will be required where, etc.
Governor Blance has just passed a budget with MASSIVE, record-breaking pork. This is what happens when democrats are in charge.
The one part of the whole ordeal in which the Feds DID have a legitimate role - rescue operations that were on such a scale as to really require more than the locals could do - actually went well, if you ask me - Once ole Blanko let them in to do it.

help! help! help!
Lets not forget those that WANT to be victims. This was the perfect oppotunity for them to sit back and complain that not enough is being done for them. Looks like it worked with all the money flooding the place now.

Yes
bushbaby writes:
help! help! help!
Lets not forget those that WANT to be victims.

Yes, indeed. Fortunately, we've managed to export a significant portion of them. Sorry, world. >:P

BrianR: what does 'FEMA' stand for?
That would be FEDERAL Emergency Management Agency, FYI.

So, I don't know what your comment

"Exactly what section of the Constitution authorizes the Federal government to provide disaster relief? I've forgotten"

has to do with anything, except perhaps inability to understand what the US government is supposed to do for taxpayers.

'Brownie, your're doing a heck of a job' says it all. If you look for incompetence, you shouldn't blame Nagin and Blanco (though they probably deserve some blame). One need look no further than W, Chertoff and his gang of crony idiots, who think that Emergency Management and Horse Shows (despite Brownie having failed with that, too) are the same thing.

I have no idea why Galen stops with the three, and seems to absolve the hapless Michael (we dodged the bullett) Chertoff or W (no one told us how serious the levee problem could be) Bush.


Levee
Had the Levee Funds (just the Fed. funds) been spent on the Levee, New Orleans would have been a fortress protected against all odds, to include a cat5 blow. But, this did not happen as corruption is a way of life in this city below sea-level. We must all understand, N.O. is the Vo-tech Center for Crime / Corruption / Ignorance and proud of the fact IMHO.

To re-elect Nagin is verification that no improvement is necessary or needed and the prefect example of the mindset running rampid in N.O.

mman............que pasa
mman...........I might remind you that a lot has to be done prior to the Hurricane coming ashore. W did all he could to get Nagin and Blanco to act. They did not. Bush can not evacuate a section of the USA but can only direct relief to the area afterwards. This is why local officials are most impt. prior to a disaster.

Also, remember, the Mississippi Gulf Coast was destroyed. Don't forget that MMan with lot less bellyaching.........because the Governor and Mayors had a brain as did the residents. Nobody was sitting around depending on the Government to do what common sense was dictatiing.

nuff said!

BrianR
Article I, Section 8:

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;...

It's general welfare. SCOTUS interprets this as meaning that the Congress can spend on anything it wants so long as there is not a specific constitutional prohibition.

woo hoo!
you said it Jman!
A little personal responsibility goes a long way. When you live in a city next to the coast that is BELOW sea level and the mayor, gov., and every weather station in town tells you to leave, Where's the mystery?
mman... The constitution does not say "There shall be FEMA for fools who choose to be victims and we will continue to bail them out"
Also, I'm no big "Brownie" fan, but it wasn't his job to mobilize Blanco and Nagins school busses.

Article I, Section 8:
..."general welfare"... not general ignorance.

Spike Lee is Still all Wet About Katrina
What did you expect from Spike Lee He must have had His Head up His Crack Dealers Behind in the months and
Years leading up to Katrina!!
The City Was Corrupted and Basically Bankrupt when
Katrina Hit! All the levee Maintenance (second only to Calif.) money had been skimmed to the Gambling industry; (for many years),along with the School Bus Funding! Which is why 90% where inoperable! The former Governer is still in prison, and Blanco and Nagin needed a Cash Cow, "FEMA" to get the City, and most of Rural Louisiana Solvent Again.
Jesse Jackson must have written part of the script, hoping He Too;"(Rainbow Co-Extortionists Inc)"; could Gorge on the rebuilding Monies( Bird nest on the Ground!!)
As for Left Dunce "Dean"; He needs to get his Head out Of Billarys' Behind!!
Eldon Stegman
Houston Texas

jerubaal and mman
I have to agree with Brian on this one. Aricle I Section 8 is not at all about creating federal agencies, it is about the power to impose taxes. As a matter of fact, the fist 6 clauses of Section 8 deal with taxing, borrowing, regulating commerce, naturalizing aliens, setting bankruptcy laws, minting coins and currency, and punishing counterfieters! Money, money,money...but not a word about FEMA!

mman, the government is not supposed to be doing this for its citizens. If the states want to do emergency management, fine...but the Constitution does not allow for the federal government to be involved here. Since this is not enumerated in the Constitution, it is supposed to fall exclusively to the states to decide whether or not to do this type of thing. But you are obviously ignorant of what the Constitution says and enamored of being a ward of the nanny state. That way you never have to worry about taking care of yourself because the safety net will always be there to catch you when you fall, huh?


If CMoore is out there your knowledge of the Constitution would be greatly appreciated in this discussion.

mman......

.... never misses an opportunity to turn upside down a great word of advice from one of the few Democrats I could actually tolerate: "Ask NOT what your country can do for you.... " - JFK

Oh, and mman never misses an opportunity to bash Bush, either.

Then there Wasn't New Orleans Finest
If all this wasn't enough, Nagin had the out of state law enforcement people who came in to help keep law and order ny batting around 80 some year women for having a pistol to help protect herself after umpteen New Orleans police officers split the scene.
Way to go Ray, how many Federal and State laws did you break and how about the law abiding citizens whose legally owned firearms have YET to be returned to them. .......and oh yeah why are you STILL the mayor who broke those laws and has had NO legal action taken against you. It seems like the Constitution is something that you never really paid any attention to.
Lets just hope that when all is said and done, somesay soon, the people of New Orleans really wake up and discover what dope you are.

Flooded School Busses
That photo of the hundreds of school busses under water - the ones which should have been used to evacuate the people of N'Orlins - is all you need to see to tell you who messed up.

Here's to a New and Improved New Orleans

Just listening to some of the media's latest come back coverage from New Orleans, one year after Katrina. I hope all the pumping stations are back on line, and up to the task of handling the run off from "Fakin'" Nagin's bilge water mouth. The man is a real piece of.... well,... (let's be nice) work.

I also heard a report say that, topographically, New Orleans is like a below sea level "bowl". So, why not take some of that vast endless supply of Federal government cure all money, and have a giant chrome handle installed. Next, have a real, common sense, pre-planned, and practiced evacuation of the good citizens, and then just flush the whole thing?

A slogan for this big event could be "When you're full of Nagin, think Tidy Bowl, and pull the handle".

And, what you'll end up with will not be a "chocolet" or a "vanilla" city, but a clean, cyrstal clear, corruption ring free beginnings of a new, and improved New Orleans.


Liberal Utopia!
N'awlins reflected the worst that a city could be when a government, convinced that their only duty is to dole out goodies to hapless residents with a plantation mentality, intersects with a criminal and lazy sub-culture whose only duty, they felt, was to subsist at the teat of whomever was providing the goodies. And what did these cretins do to help themselves - re-elected a lobotomized goon to lead them to the new world! Charity starts at home. Had not Nagin's performance and leadership been so sorry in the initial phases where evacuation was essential, the loss of life would have been reduced by 90%.

Nagin
How in the world did he get re elected?

Evacuate or Equivocate
To evacuate or not to evacuate this is the question?

Regardless, the phony powers that be will equivocate later.

GEM



I heard an interesting discussion
It was about what Nagin was saying on CBS Sunday night, and a comment from someone that lives in Florida, that was hit 4 times last summer -- he said that Nagin was correct, because ANYWHERE else in the country, there would have been evacuations and immediate clean-up and rebuilding. He added that except for a lack of some trees, that his locality was nearly back to normal and the damages repaired.


Trains, plane, automobiles - and busses
Yesterday I happened to catch a program on The History Channel about the hurricane that hit New England in 1938 ... "Those" people had NO warning of the monster that was about to consume them.

I recall, a year ago, there were a few days prior to Katrina hitting the Gulf Coast where the BM (now using in place of the former MSM) aka, Big Media ... eh hemmm, and the Weather Channel were forecasting the storm had a very good chance of making land fall in the city of New Orleans. The primary responsibility for evacuating the area rests on the shoulders of the citizens of that city. And don't play the "but the poor people had no way of leaving" card ... That then comes to the responsibility of the Mayor, and upward to the state government and their politically idiotic Governor. But I get sick of hearing people had no way out ... Someone PLEASE explain to me, then, why there are so many abandoned cars in that city in need of expensive removal??!!??

That being said, "The Big Easy" should be renamed "The Big Lazy". Had I lived there in that toilet bowl and knew that storm was coming for me I, at the very least, would have carried what I could on my back and WALKED my family the hell out of there to higher ground. They have no one to blame but themselves.

BTW, I just caught Jeb Bush in Florida, once again, warning the people of, and visiting, Florida to take this approaching storm, as he does with every storm, seriously. And correct me if I'm wrong, the year before Katrina Florida was hit by at least 4 hurricanes and at least one nasty "tropical storm" ... one city (I think it was Punta Gorda) hit unmercifully by two `canes in a row. Coastal island communities were literally cut in half.

And let's NOT forget, while the BM dwells this week on this first "anniversary" of Katrina and New Orleans that much of the neighboring Gulf coast of Mississippi and Alabama were [directly] hit by the storm and were destroyed. But they might get lucky this week and get a passing mention in the coverage...

copy editing; the Atchafalaya
Dear Mr. Galen,
I appreciate your work. But please get someone to copy edit your work more closely. "Levies"? Unless you are discussing operating property tax increases to rebuild NO, you mean "levees". Also, you mean "real life".
Does anyone in America know what the fifth largest river in the U.S. (in cfs) is? It is the Atchafalaya, and it is a distributary of the Mississippi. It is important because no matter what the Army Corps of Engineer designs, no matter how much successful politicking Ray and Blanco do, no matter how much money Congress and Bush throw at New Orleans, no matter how high government contractors build and rebuild those levees, and, interestingly, no matter how few or how many hurricanes hit Louisiana in the future, the Mississippi is going to flow into the Atchafalaya sometime within the next three to five decades. There is nothing we can do about it, unless Moses comes back to life and permanently parts the Red, Mississippi and Atchafalaya rivers.
Nobody is discussing this geological and hydrological inevitability. What we are discussing is how many taxpayer dollars - $200 billion or $300 billion - should be spent to build and rebuild the dikes, levees, and below-sea-level New Orleans itself.
Do you know that during the last fifty years, ever since the Army Corps started diverting water from the Atchafalaya to the Mississippi, the Atchafalaya has been eroding (sinking) and the Mississippi has been silting (rising) to such an extent that if you stand at the distributary point today you would be looking 30 feet UP at the Mississippi River? How long can humans withstand what nature and nature's God has planned for the Mississippi? Not much longer, I'm afraid. And the differential increases at an accelerated pace as the each river's respective erosion or silting process continues.
If we are lucky, the Mississippi will flood somewhere upstream, and when it recedes there will be a new Mississippi River route to the sea (generally, due south of the distributary point.) But if we are unlucky - rather, if those who live in the downstream flood plain of the Atchafalaya are unlucky - the increasingly strained levees will fail sometime in the next few decades, and the Mississippi torrent will sweep around 100,000 southern Louisiana residents into the Gulf of Mexico.
Talk privately to individuals in the Army Corps and they will confirm what I am writing; indeed, they will say I understate the problem. But as public choice economists and scientists point out, these same individuals know who butters their bread, and they are not about to get off the gravy train, probably until it is too late.
So yes, let's blame W and Ray and Kathleen and Michael and Brownie and others for what happened in the aftermath of Katrina. But Katrina is not the problem. It never was. It was not even an unusual hurricane, and its effects were predictable, predicted, and even modeled.
But most of all, let's blame ourselves for not getting the log out of our own eye long enough to tell Congress to stop this foolish nonsense about rebuilding New Orleans (except the French Quarter), the dikes, and the levees. Their Babelian plan will fail, and our wasted tax dollars may even send tens of thousands of good Louisian residents literally out to sea. And the blood will be on OUR hands.
Best regards,
Tim Cranston
timcranston@aol.com

Amazing
The ignorance of Constitutional authority is simply amazing to me.

The Constitution does not allow the federal G to act like the big insurance company in the sky. If people want to take the risk of living in some high risk zone and not carry their own private insurance, too bad for them if they get hit. The Constitution does not authorize my tax dollars to be spent to make them whole. The "general welfare" clause means the general welfare of the whole people of the country, as in providing a court system and a military, not rebuilding some schmoe's house in New Orleans. This was once well-established doctrine in this formerly-great country. Presidents used to veto bills that provided spending for local or private benefit.

Further, as was alluded to, Nagin took the opportunity to try to deprive these citizens of their Second amendment rights by sending his cops door-to-door confiscating legally owned private firearms, just at the time comtemplated by the Amendment itself, when needed most, during an emergency. On top of that, he has still refused to obey the federal court order mandating their return to their owners.

Don't throw good money after bad...
NO is sinking, and (if "Global Warming" is to be believed) the seas are rising.

Unless the ground level is raised significantly ABOVE sea level, any reconstruction is a fool's (read: politician) game.

We taxpayers should not be paying money to those who choose to live in such obviously vulnerable areas. That includes those upper middle class folks who choose to live RIGHT at the ocean's beaches.

FEMA's main role (at least pre-Katrina) was to come in AFTER the event, and provide low-cost LOANS to help with reconstruction. It was NOT to rescue folks who failed to take heed to the clear warnings.

Expecting FEMA to do the rescue is like a drowning man who expects the lifeguard 5 miles down the coast to save him - even though there is a local lifeguard.

Another Federal agency that did an outstanding job: The US Dept. of Veterans Affairs (VA), which started the evacuation of their patients, some on respirators, on Thursday. And completed it the following day - well before the event.

If VA could do it, for respirator patients, there is no excuse for anybody else.

But... WE taxpayers will be expected to continue paying for this stupidity!

jerubaal - Article I, Section 8
jerubaal writes: "It's general welfare. SCOTUS interprets this as meaning that the Congress can spend on anything it wants so long as there is not a specific constitutional prohibition."

Actually, the Supreme Court of the United States DID NOT interpret this section of the Constitution in the way you describe for the first 150 years of the Constitution's existence. It wasn't until the New Deal and FDR's hijacking of the Constitution with intimidation tactics that the Supreme Court gave in.

And BrianR's last comment with the subject line "Amazing" does a great job of summarizing the lunacy of such an interpretation of the Constitution's General Welfare clause.

Anyone who wants to know more about the history of the Welfare Clause and how it has been abused is encouraged to read Judge Andrew Napolitano's new book, "The Constitution in Exile".

Stop the insanity
As Elsinore says , We can't continue to pay for an insane solution to a natural disaster.

If Mt. Rainer were erupting, would Seattle expect the rest of us to cap it off?

I live on the Ala Gulf coast and do not expect taxpayers from Boise to pay for my Katrina losses.
Though they do help with my Natl Flood Ins(which like most fed programs is also insane).

When I moved here I knew I would be subject to having a major hurricane hit one day. I buy high priced insurance and stock in reinsurance companies as a hedge.

As for New Orleans. The murder rate is out the roof again, the criminals are ruling, the citizens elect idiots, so why save a city that can't save itself?
Maybe help wall off the French Qtr since it is apparently higher anyway and put a great big historical marker along I-10 saying Site of Old New Orleans 17??--2005.

Have all of you seen N O pre Katrina. It would make you want to cry if you had known it prior to the 70s. the stores are closed, houses burned out, burned and looted cars in the streets and crime rampant--and this is pre Katrina.

Enough!!!
charlie

bravesfan: right on the money
Laying this at the feet of FDR is exactly right. He's the gift that just keeps on giving, just like Herpes.

His threat to pack SCOTUS, and their subsequent surrender on the constitutionality of his ridicul0us social programs, laid the groundwork for the bankruptcy of this country, and for the legislative social engineering that we now suffer from.

Ray "Stop Me Before I Stick . . . .
. . . my foot in my mouth again" Nagin was on TV a couple of days ago still claiming that FEMA and Bush didn't want to help N.O. because of "class" differences.

Ray "Chocolate City" Nagin said if the people lived in Orange County, federal aid would have been much swifter.

Ray Nagin is a black racist, pure and simple. No, wait, he's an incompetent black racist. Anyone who can't see that is just not paying attention.

Blanco, Nagin and William Jefferson should all be sharing a jail cell in Angola.

To Townhall: It's ridicul*us
That you can't write the word "ricicul*us" because it contains the letters "cul*".

Whatever "cul*" means, in whatever language; I don't have a clue.


Consitutional Law
Thanks to BrianR and a few others who stayed awake in ConLaw class! Of course the federal government doesn't do local first responder stuff! That's Blanco and Nagin's jobs, which they DIDN'T do!

Good grief, next we'll be expecting a federal department of snow shoveling to clean the walk and driveway off in winter. Or maybe someone from the feds can help with the dishes . . .?

Rebuilding NO
I have a suggestion.

Since NO is mostly below sea level, and is a shipping port why not just dig the low parts a bit deeper, drege a channel or channels as required and make NO a truly world class port. All the dug out land (dirt) can be put around the outside limits to make the super port of NO a safe and bounded port.

Well, on second thought, something like this could only be considered in Japan or Saudi Arabia as it seems only they think big and have the guts to do things on a grand scale.

Ed

Chocolate to Vanilla
I'm stumped on the saying,
"the City will never be the same"
Who will be the honest and brave soul to explain what that really means?
Is the Gumbo going to be different?
The French Quarter....What???
What's going to change?

ok - I'll bite!
maybe I'm falling for it, but...

r0_d1 writes: To DavidMac: Wrong
"Of course the federal government doesn't do local first responder stuff! "
WRONG! Another GOP lie.
Example: IEM.

So I went to http://www.ieminc.com/ and they don't do First Responder stuff either. They evaluate and supply info and work on ways TO respond.

So, try again. Or go back to bed til you can get un-GOP-grumped! (to paraphrase my grandmother!)


On and on ...
r0_d1 writes:

"Remember the day when you would lose your contract for not doing your JOB?"



Wait. I thought we were talking about Ray Nagin, not Tom Cruise ...

On and on...
r0_d1 writes:

"Remember the day when you would lose your contract for not doing your JOB?"


Wait. I thought we were talking about Ray Nagin, not Tom Cruise ...

drillanwr...
that's hilarious! LOL

as for r0_d1, gee... you make it sound like the Clinton years were spent building up the levees... you mean that they only deteriorated under the Bush "regime", as I'm sure you're wont to say!!

LOL still... SassafrasTea~~

c & d
Mr. Galen ends his excellent article with the statement "The rest of the country thinks he is not a serious guy and think that enough money has been spent on rebuilding a city which a)has done nothing to help itself at all and b)is being run by people who are goofballs.

Permit me if you will to add

c) Is built below sea level in a hurricane prone area.

Which leads me to

d) - why rebuild it?

whoops
Doc - In my haste to fire a verbal zinger I missed your excellent suggestion. To my untrained eyes it seems to make some sense.

Although I do stand by my original question - why rebuild it? Let me amend that a bit to - why rebuild it as it was? Perhaps Doc could hire out as a consultant.

But it would be important to keep the local pols out of the mix as much as possible, and to remember that ever since it was invented Louisiana has been famous for its corruption. It even makes Chicago look like amateurs and I NEVER thought that would happen. I would venture that if one were to look closely into the federal money that has been sent there to reinforce the levees over the years that a goodly portion of it has been siphoned off by the locals one way or the other for their own purposes.


whoops
Doc - In my haste to fire a verbal zinger I missed your excellent suggestion. To my untrained eyes it seems to make some sense.

Although I do stand by my original question - why rebuild it? Let me amend that a bit to - why rebuild it as it was? Perhaps Doc could hire out as a consultant.

But it would be important to keep the local pols out of the mix as much as possible, and to remember that ever since it was invented Louisiana has been famous for its corruption. It even makes Chicago look like amateurs and I NEVER thought that would happen. I would venture that if one were to look closely into the federal money that has been sent there to reinforce the levees over the years that a goodly portion of it has been siphoned off by the locals one way or the other for their own purposes.


N.O. setting up for
another disaster. Right after Katrina I spoke with many of my Engineering friends, and Construction Contractors about what should be done to rebuild New Orleans. To a man, they were all in agreement that the only intelligent way, is to fill and raise the entire area to at least 20 to 30 feet above sea level.

Rebuilding the levees is but a band-aide fix because they WILL be breached again. It's only a matter of when. If the land were raised it would at least be protected from massive flooding.

And Tims post is accurate! His scenario combined with a huge storm will be a disaster far worse than what Katrina brought.

The billions of taxpayer dollars being spent as they are now, will be a complete loss.

Brian,
it's Italian for a$$.

B., I didn't realize
the Townhall censors were going to teach me some new slang, and it foreign languages no less.

Cyne: Good grief
And yet I can write "bloody" which is quite a curse in Britain, in English, no less.

They're censoring ITALIAN?

Believe it!
Did a google on cul0; that's what came up on the slang dictionary.

BIGBELLY
BB,
DO YOU MEAN " WILLIAM JEFFERSON ,DEMOCRAT FROM
LOUISIANA " AS RUSH LIMBAUGH WOULD SAY ?
AS USUAL, YOU SURE HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.
JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE THAT SKINNY PEOPLE
DO NOT HAVE A MONOPOLY ON INTELLIGENCE.

Katrina
I am so sick of hearing about Katrina - there were other areas down there that were destroyed but you don't hear about them. Louisiana has received so much money and people to help and what have they accomplished? They still want more, enough is never enough, but of course the governor and mayor are getting the money so where is it going. The people voted him back in well let them live with it. They have been a big welfar state for a long time, it is time it stopped. They are milking it for everything they can get.

katrina
in the aftermath of katrina I was interested to see if there was in fact a plan for the evacuation of NO in place. at the citys website a very detailed plan was posted, including such information as what neighborhoods would require public transportation to move how many thousands of residents, what forms of public transportation ( school buses primarily) would be used, and what shelters the people would be taken to. Interestingly enough the superdome was not listed as a shelter, mostly those locales listed were public schools. Also the anouncment schedule was listed, stating information such as "do not take evacuees to shelters until informed that the shelter was made ready by volunteers, and what supplies ( water, food, medical supplies, cots, etc) were available at each shelter, how long it was expected to take to make said shelters ready.
Why was this plan not implememnted? I assume the buses were those shown flooded on the news, but the fact is the shelters should have been full long before the waters reached the parking lots where the buses were parked. Perhaps most interestingly of all, aprox 4 days after I viewed this site, the "hurricane evacuation plan" section of the NOLA website was no longer available ( on My last three attempts to view that section of the site, I was given a "not authorized to view" message.)
Talk about a cover up! The plans were laid, they just werent used, ( and No where did I see in that plan that GW Bush, condi or dick cheney were supposed to drive down and pick up every citizen of the city.
Its the state and local govts responsibility to deal with the evacuation of its citizens, and the first 48 to 72 hour aftermath of any hurricane.
So sick of hearing about "lessons from katrina" when the ONLY lesson that should be learned is "there is a population who will sit and drown rather than lift a finger to help themselves or their neighbors, waiting on "Big Uncle", who has fed, clothed, housed and medicated at others expense for the past 40 years.

and as one late night wag put it
nagin couldnt find buses to get his folks out of town before katrina, but found plenty to haul 'em back into town from all over the country, come election time
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